Re: [UC] FOCP leader in the news

[Anthony West]

You are correct: I should have written, "Mrs. Contosta or me."

My article makes four different observations of fact, none of which 
Stalberg disputed. One is that Committee of 70 does not comply with the 
Better Business Bureau's recommendations for nonprofit charities, which 
should publish their annual budget and latest tax return on their 
website. The second is that its tax filings on GuideStar were extremely 
late when the article was written. The third is that the Pennsylvania 
Dept. of State reported standard measures based on 70's 2008 return. The 
fourth is that by three important measures, 70 had been underspending on 
mission and overspending on housekeeping functions -- all warning signs 
when evaluating a nonprofit.


The numbers I reported for 2008 were taken directly from the Dept. of 
State website at that time. We still cannot see 70's 2009 tax return or 
its 2010 budget on its website. These are not violations of law but of 
good form.


If the Committee of 70 were in the business of running festivals or 
schools or clinics, one might worry less about such form. But this 
body's /main business is to advise how other bodies should conduct 
public business. /That's what your charity dollar goes to buy with them. 
So it's disconcerting that it doesn't take the advice of independent, 
reputable bodies which perform the same service for 70's own realm -- 
the nonprofit biz. It judges -- but it will not be judged.


Read the original story at http://www.phillyrecord.com/?p=963. And happy 
Thanksgiving everyone, although it may be a happier one if you've got 
better things to do.


-- Tony West


"On 11/25/2010 8:33 AM, Glenn wrote:


From the text, Mr West has tried to equate the broad recommendations 
(averages) from some ngo/think tank as if they were law.  He appears 
to be using the ratios in their guidelines to make a case that the 
Commiittee is avoiding transparency requirements in their operations.  
His evidence does not address or prove a lack of transparency.  It's 
nonsense.  It's the usual fallacious arguing tricks we've come to know 
so well on this list.


The committee of seventy seems to have openly given its budget numbers 
to the Weekly Press showing no desire to avoid transparency.  They 
simply assert that Mr. West got his facts wrong on what appears to be 
an attack, such as destroyed the innocent and excellent group Acorn 
(proven to have been innocent of all fake journalism charges)

Re: [UC] FOCP leader in the news

[Glenn]

From the Committee of Seventy web site:


*20. I will seek the* // *enactment of an ordinance requiring all 
lobbyists, and individuals acting * *as lobbyists, engaged in business 
with the City, City-related departments, agencies and * *commissions 
and quasi-City agencies and authorities, to register as lobbyists, 
identify * *their clients and make public their expenses.*


*10. I will* *promote greater public access to, and participation in, 
meetings and hearings * *convened by City Council and its committees 
-- including holding more sessions * *during evening hours and in 
locations throughout the City and also providing timely * *and 
complete transcripts on City Council's web site.*




Knowing Mr. West, I believe these two priorities of the Committee of 
seventy would definitely put them on Mr. West's hit list.  Since the 
committee is interested in ethics and governance there could be many 
more reasons for West's assault.



West says below: "Stalberg is an odd person to pass judgement on the 
journalistic worth of working press like Nicole Contosta and myself."


Mr. West, he did not pass judgement on Ms. Contosta.  Two people said 
the facts of Mr West are wrong and did not mention Ms. Contosta. (You 
tricky devil)


West says:  "Nice work if you can get it, Zack. How Nicole and I wish!"  
Can you send Nicole's exact supporting quote Mr West?



From the text, Mr West has tried to equate the broad recommendations 
(averages) from some ngo/think tank as if they were law.  He appears to 
be using the ratios in their guidelines to make a case that the 
Commiittee is avoiding transparency requirements in their operations.  
His evidence does not address or prove a lack of transparency.  It's 
nonsense.  It's the usual fallacious arguing tricks we've come to know 
so well on this list.


The committee of seventy seems to have openly given its budget numbers 
to the Weekly Press showing no desire to avoid transparency.  They 
simply assert that Mr. West got his facts wrong on what appears to be an 
attack, such as destroyed the innocent and excellent group Acorn (proven 
to have been innocent of all fake journalism charges)



Shirley Sherrod, Michael Moore, ACORN and I have all been assaulted by 
character assassins posing as journalists.  More important than funding 
ratios for groups looking at corruption and back room dealings is for 
people to examine these attacks and fake journalism.  It's important to 
recognize this as a power play rather than reporting and it's important 
to deconstruct the fallacious techniques used by "reporters" and civic 
association leaders such as Mr. West!


Glenn, a real citizen journalist



On 11/24/2010 6:25 PM, Anthony West wrote:
Translation: Four days after I reported the facts about Committee of 
70's 2008 and 2009 tax filings, the Committee belatedly updated them 
in order to be more current and transparent -- as this body 
rightfully, but pompously, demands all public-sector agencies should 
do, in order to live up to Committee of 70's alleged standards of good 
government.


After I published my article, Zack Stalberg found Jesus and decided to 
bring his own corporate lobby's filings up to date --  as he has long 
demanded all audits of City agencies should be.


He was right about them, and I am right about him.

Contosta's article shows that by Stalberg's own admission, Seventy's 
fundraising costs are consistently above the average for all nonprofit 
associations. Stalberg claims he finally got his administrative costs 
below the national average last year. Good for him, if true!


Stalberg is an odd person to pass judgement on the journalistic worth 
of working press like Nicole Contosta and myself. He's a former 
journalist who now holds down a comfy gig in the neighborhood of 
$200,000/yr, shilling for the political agenda of Philadelphia's 
big-business elite. Nice work if you can get it, Zack. How Nicole and 
I wish!


-- Tony West



On 11/24/2010 12:22 PM, Glenn wrote:
Here is a report of a controversy involving local civic association 
leader, Tony West.  I love the comment below by Mr. Stalberg.  (Mr 
West was the author of the "Glenn's Whores" series published on this 
public listserv.)



"But to Stalberg, "Many of the key facts in the story are w

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Re: [UC] FOCP leader in the news

[Glenn]

On 11/24/2010 6:25 PM, Anthony West wrote:
Translation: Four days after I reported the facts about Committee of 
70's 2008 and 2009 tax filings, the Committee belatedly updated them 
in order to be more current and transparent -- as this body 
rightfully, but pompously, demands all public-sector agencies should 
do, in order to live up to Committee of 70's alleged standards of good 
government.


After I published my article, Zack Stalberg found Jesus and decided to 
bring his own corporate lobby's filings up to date --  as he has long 
demanded all audits of City agencies should be.


He was right about them, and I am right about him.

Contosta's article shows that by Stalberg's own admission, Seventy's 
fundraising costs are consistently above the average for all nonprofit 
associations. Stalberg claims he finally got his administrative costs 
below the national average last year. Good for him, if true!


Stalberg is an odd person to pass judgement on the journalistic worth 
of working press like Nicole Contosta and myself. He's a former 
journalist who now holds down a comfy gig in the neighborhood of 
$200,000/yr, shilling for the political agenda of Philadelphia's 
big-business elite. Nice work if you can get it, Zack. How Nicole and 
I wish!


-- Tony West



On 11/24/2010 12:22 PM, Glenn wrote:
Here is a report of a controversy involving local civic association 
leader, Tony West.  I love the comment below by Mr. Stalberg.  (Mr 
West was the author of the "Glenn's Whores" series published on this 
public listserv.)



"But to Stalberg, "Many of the key facts in the story are w

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Re: [UC] FOCP leader in the news

[Anthony West]

Translation: Four days after I reported the facts about Committee of 
70's 2008 and 2009 tax filings, the Committee belatedly updated them in 
order to be more current and transparent -- as this body rightfully, but 
pompously, demands all public-sector agencies should do, in order to 
live up to Committee of 70's alleged standards of good government.


After I published my article, Zack Stalberg found Jesus and decided to 
bring his own corporate lobby's filings up to date --  as he has long 
demanded all audits of City agencies should be.


He was right about them, and I am right about him.

Contosta's article shows that by Stalberg's own admission, Seventy's 
fundraising costs are consistently above the average for all nonprofit 
associations. Stalberg claims he finally got his administrative costs 
below the national average last year. Good for him, if true!


Stalberg is an odd person to pass judgement on the journalistic worth of 
working press like Nicole Contosta and myself. He's a former journalist 
who now holds down a comfy gig in the neighborhood of $200,000/yr, 
shilling for the political agenda of Philadelphia's big-business elite. 
Nice work if you can get it, Zack. How Nicole and I wish!


-- Tony West



On 11/24/2010 12:22 PM, Glenn wrote:
Here is a report of a controversy involving local civic association 
leader, Tony West.  I love the comment below by Mr. Stalberg.  (Mr West 
was the author of the "Glenn's Whores" series published on this public 
listserv.)



"But to Stalberg, "Many of the key facts in the story are w

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Re: [UC] FOCP leader in the news

[Glenn]

"While Tony might not always be the most sympathetic and charitable 
individual on this listserv, you seem to revel in attacking him 
personally or using the character you fabricate and label "Tony" to 
attack FOCP."



Craig,  have your buddies been spiking the tea at the tea parties?  
There is no attack.


People of this neighborhood have a right to analyze the integrity of 
their leaders and researchers.  I didn't state that the Public Record is 
"not a bona fide journalistic entity" or that Mr. West might not publish 
correct facts.  I passed along a report I read in a widely respected 
source of local news.


I'm still moved by Michael Moore's pain about the character 
assasinations he suffered.  I, too, suffered character attacks at the 
hands of so called journalists using outright lies.  I don't know Mr. 
Stalberg as you seem to know him, but I hate to see people suffer when 
fake journalism attacks people with bogus facts.  That seems to be what 
two people at the Committee of 70 are saying in the report, and Mr West 
seems to be involved.


Please remember that Mr. West holds a very important position between 
the neighborhood and the Clark Park Partnership.  He is the chief 
researcher and chief spokesperson for the FOCP over many years.  The 
reliability and integrity of Mr. West's data is being questioned and 
that's important for citizen journalists to report to the community!


Craig, you should have Cassidy and Bender test your tea before you have 
anymore!


Glenn, citizen journalist
Medicare for all now!
On 11/24/2010 2:18 PM, craigso...@aol.com wrote:
In a message dated 11/24/2010 12:24:12 Eastern Standard Time, 
glen...@earthlink.net writes:


Here is a report of a controversy involving local civic association
leader, Tony West.  I love the comment below by Mr. Stalberg.  (Mr
West
was the author of the "Glenn's Whores" series published on this
public
listserv.)


"But to Stalberg, "Many of the key facts in the story are wrong,
which
is understandable considering that The Public Record is not a bona
fide
journalistic entity that adheres to common journalistic
standards." He
told The Weekly Press."



http://weeklypress.com/committee-of-seventy-responds-to-allegations-on-transparency-p2263-1.htm


While Tony might not always be the most sympathetic and charitable 
individual on this listserv, you seem to revel in attacking him 
personally or using the character you fabricate and label "Tony" to 
attack FOCP.
The Committee of Seventy under Stalberg has descended to little more 
than a tool of the Nutter Administration as it tries to concentrate 
more power in the executive branch by annexing heretofore the 
responsibility of city government Row Offices.
The work of West and The Public Record you cite has nothing to do with 
the FOCP! West and the Public Record have worked harder than any local 
periodical to spotlight the "uber -progressives'" attempts to 
disenfranchise the voting rights of Everyman.
In the past I may have labeled you an agent provocateur. With your 
current post, it is obvious you are a tool of stupidity, but it is not 
your fault! While FOCP and the City engaged in concrete sawing earlier 
this week, it is apparent its waste product, which you allegedly 
inhaled, made you go toxic.
Monday I mistakenly opened an old email folder and proceeded to read 
emails from Cassidy and Bender -what a delight, even though I 
occasionally remember Cassidy "busting 'em" for me. Then, I realized I 
had opened up an old folder, not that the Barking Cheese Boys had 
rejoined us.
Further, West makes his living as a journalist and lives in the hood, 
whereas Stalberg makes his sucking on the nipple of a charitably 
supported NPO that enables him to live upscale and drive a Jaguar.
In the interest of full disclosure, I recently attended several masses 
with the publisher of The Public Record, Jim Tayoun. The last mass was 
offered by eight priests and said in English, Arabic, and Aramaic -the 
language Christ spoke. Now just what voices do you hear?

Craig



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Re: [UC] FOCP leader in the news

[Craigsolve]

In a message dated 11/24/2010 12:24:12 Eastern Standard Time,  
glen...@earthlink.net writes:

Here is  a report of a controversy involving local civic association 
leader, Tony  West.  I love the comment below by Mr. Stalberg.  (Mr West 
was  the author of the "Glenn's Whores" series published on this public  
listserv.)


"But to Stalberg, "Many of the key facts in the  story are wrong, which 
is understandable considering that The Public  Record is not a bona fide 
journalistic entity that adheres to common  journalistic standards." He 
told The Weekly  Press."


http://weeklypress.com/committee-of-seventy-responds-to-allegations-on-trans
parency-p2263-1.htm


 
While Tony might not always be the most sympathetic and charitable  
individual on this listserv, you seem to revel in attacking him personally or  
using the character you fabricate and label "Tony" to attack FOCP.
 
The Committee of Seventy under Stalberg has descended to little more than a 
 tool of the Nutter Administration as it tries to concentrate more power in 
the  executive branch by annexing heretofore the responsibility of city  
government Row Offices. 
 
The work of West and The Public Record you cite has nothing to do with  the 
FOCP! West and the Public Record have worked harder than any local  
periodical to spotlight the "uber -progressives'" attempts to disenfranchise 
the  
voting rights of Everyman.
 
In the past I may have labeled you an agent  provocateur. With your current 
post, it is obvious you are a tool of  stupidity, but it is not your fault! 
While FOCP and the City engaged in concrete  sawing earlier this week, it 
is apparent its waste product, which you allegedly  inhaled, made you go 
toxic.
 
Monday I mistakenly opened an old email folder and proceeded to read emails 
 from Cassidy and Bender -what a delight, even though I occasionally 
remember  Cassidy "busting 'em" for me. Then, I realized I had opened up an old 
folder,  not that the Barking Cheese Boys had rejoined us.
 
Further, West makes his living as a journalist and lives in the hood,  
whereas Stalberg makes his sucking on the nipple of a charitably supported NPO  
that enables him to live upscale and drive a Jaguar.
 
In the interest of full disclosure, I recently attended several masses with 
 the publisher of The Public Record, Jim Tayoun. The last mass was offered 
by  eight priests and said in English, Arabic, and Aramaic -the language 
Christ  spoke. Now just what voices do you hear?
 
Craig

[UC] FOCP leader in the news

[Glenn]

Here is a report of a controversy involving local civic association 
leader, Tony West.  I love the comment below by Mr. Stalberg.  (Mr West 
was the author of the "Glenn's Whores" series published on this public 
listserv.)



"But to Stalberg, "Many of the key facts in the story are wrong, which 
is understandable considering that The Public Record is not a bona fide 
journalistic entity that adheres to common journalistic standards." He 
told The Weekly Press."



http://weeklypress.com/committee-of-seventy-responds-to-allegations-on-transparency-p2263-1.htm

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