Re: [UC] Maybe things _are_ getting worse
Very well. I stand corrected. On 3/23/07 10:21 PM, Turner,Kathleen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: When YOU were a toddler, how many other toddlers did YOU bite? Did you kick, scratch or punch other toddlers as well? When I was one, or two? I'm quite sure that I did. and so did you, and Tony and . . . well Ross -- who knows? Children of that age have always bitten each other, or their parents or the dog. And then they begin to learn that it isn't acceptable, and they stop. If it had been an eight year old biting another child, then yes, something is wrong. But one toddler biting another? Perfectly expected and age appropriate. Does that mean that parents (or daycare teachers, or whoever is with the child at the minute) ignore it? No -- if they're paying attention, they remove one child from the other, and tell the biter no. But it doesn't mean that the child is a budding psychopath. I think you need a reality check here. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] on behalf of Wilma de Soto Sent: Fri 3/23/2007 9:56 PM To: Anthony West; UnivCity listserv Subject: Re: [UC] Maybe things _are_ getting worse Addressed to Kathleen in reply to Tony's post: When YOU were a toddler, how many other toddlers did YOU bite? Did you kick, scratch or punch other toddlers as well? If so, then why? If not, then WHY not? Of course you, (and I) probably wanted to do so, but did we act out our basest natural children's instincts, or were we taught to restrain those impulses by our parents. They taught us that one could not just do what we felt like doing to others outside of our homes and families. Our wants were secondary to what was best for the greater good of society once we left our homes and family. It's different now. Wherever people are today they it is an extension of their home; their parents do not temper those impulses or teach restraint; rather they defend the most basest impulses of children. People have LOUD conversations on the trolley, buses, subways, streets, markets; wherever they wish. Please do not ask them to turn it down or have their conversations elsewhere etc. That is just ASKING for a violent confrontation or worse. It may not be the apocalypse, but it certainly heralds the decline of this society and our country, which is relatively new in comparison in the continuum of older societies on this planet. We may sneer at the other nations, cultures and religious societies whom might disagree with our world view and culture, but they just may well prevail after we have gone, just as they did before America was established. Not the apocalypse perhaps, but certainly something to consider. On 3/23/07 9:11 PM, Anthony West [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If the assailant turns out to be rabid, perhaps. -- Tony West - Original Message - From: Turner,Kathleen mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To: John Desmond mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ; univcity@list.purple.com Sent: Friday, March 23, 2007 7:29 PM Subject: RE: [UC] Maybe things _are_ getting worse Can you explain how one toddler biting another toddler is a sign of the apocalypse? Am I missing something here? Kathleen You are receiving this because you are subscribed to the list named UnivCity. To unsubscribe or for archive information, see http://www.purple.com/list.html.
[UC] Maybe things _are_ getting worse
Salutations, gentlefolk, Was talking to a lady I work with, earlier today. Learned her one-year-old-son had been bitten yesterday by another child in the day-care-center, she'd been with him till 1 AM at the hospital getting him inspected, injected ... Yours, John Desmond You are receiving this because you are subscribed to the list named UnivCity. To unsubscribe or for archive information, see http://www.purple.com/list.html.
RE: [UC] Maybe things _are_ getting worse
Can you explain how one toddler biting another toddler is a sign of the apocalypse? Am I missing something here? Kathleen From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] on behalf of John Desmond Sent: Fri 3/23/2007 7:51 PM To: Bob Schwier; univcity@list.purple.com Subject: [UC] Maybe things _are_ getting worse Salutations, gentlefolk, Was talking to a lady I work with, earlier today. Learned her one-year-old-son had been bitten yesterday by another child in the day-care-center, she'd been with him till 1 AM at the hospital getting him inspected, injected ... Yours, John Desmond You are receiving this because you are subscribed to the list named UnivCity. To unsubscribe or for archive information, see http://www.purple.com/list.html.
Re: [UC] Maybe things _are_ getting worse - a Brighter Side
From: ... John Desmond Sent: Fri 3/23/2007 7:51 PM ... Learned her one-year-old-son had been bitten yesterday by another child in the day-care-center, ... In a message dated 3/23/2007 7:33:58 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Can you explain how one toddler biting another toddler is a sign of the apocalypse? Am I missing something here? Perhaps, you'll find these scenarios more encouraging: 1)Feral Children isolated, confined, wolf and wild children _http://www.feralchildren.com/en/index.php_ (http://www.feralchildren.com/en/index.php) 2)Study: Cannibals Usually Dine Alone _http://www.livescience.com/animalworld/070323_cannibals_disease.html_ (http://www.livescience.com/animalworld/070323_cannibals_disease.html) You usually don't have to look far to see you are in the bright side. Ciao, Craig ** AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at http://www.aol.com.
Re: [UC] Maybe things _are_ getting worse
[UC] Maybe things _are_ getting worseIf the assailant turns out to be rabid, perhaps. -- Tony West - Original Message - From: Turner,Kathleen To: John Desmond ; univcity@list.purple.com Sent: Friday, March 23, 2007 7:29 PM Subject: RE: [UC] Maybe things _are_ getting worse Can you explain how one toddler biting another toddler is a sign of the apocalypse? Am I missing something here? Kathleen
Re: [UC] Maybe things _are_ getting worse
Addressed to Kathleen in reply to Tony¹s post: When YOU were a toddler, how many other toddlers did YOU bite? Did you kick, scratch or punch other toddlers as well? If so, then why? If not, then WHY not? Of course you, (and I) probably wanted to do so, but did we act out our basest natural children¹s instincts, or were we taught to restrain those impulses by our parents. They taught us that one could not just do what we felt like doing to others outside of our homes and families. Our wants were secondary to what was best for the greater good of society once we left our homes and family. It¹s different now. Wherever people are today they it is an extension of their home; their parents do not temper those impulses or teach restraint; rather they defend the most basest impulses of children. People have LOUD conversations on the trolley, buses, subways, streets, markets; wherever they wish. Please do not ask them to turn it down or have their conversations elsewhere etc. That is just ASKING for a violent confrontation or worse. It may not be the apocalypse, but it certainly heralds the decline of this society and our country, which is relatively new in comparison in the continuum of older societies on this planet. We may sneer at the other nations, cultures and religious societies whom might disagree with our world view and culture, but they just may well prevail after we have gone, just as they did before America was established. Not the apocalypse perhaps, but certainly something to consider. On 3/23/07 9:11 PM, Anthony West [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If the assailant turns out to be rabid, perhaps. -- Tony West - Original Message - From: Turner,Kathleen mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To: John Desmond mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ; univcity@list.purple.com Sent: Friday, March 23, 2007 7:29 PM Subject: RE: [UC] Maybe things _are_ getting worse Can you explain how one toddler biting another toddler is a sign of the apocalypse? Am I missing something here? Kathleen
RE: [UC] Maybe things _are_ getting worse
When YOU were a toddler, how many other toddlers did YOU bite? Did you kick, scratch or punch other toddlers as well? When I was one, or two? I'm quite sure that I did. and so did you, and Tony and . . . well Ross -- who knows? Children of that age have always bitten each other, or their parents or the dog. And then they begin to learn that it isn't acceptable, and they stop. If it had been an eight year old biting another child, then yes, something is wrong. But one toddler biting another? Perfectly expected and age appropriate. Does that mean that parents (or daycare teachers, or whoever is with the child at the minute) ignore it? No -- if they're paying attention, they remove one child from the other, and tell the biter no. But it doesn't mean that the child is a budding psychopath. I think you need a reality check here. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] on behalf of Wilma de Soto Sent: Fri 3/23/2007 9:56 PM To: Anthony West; UnivCity listserv Subject: Re: [UC] Maybe things _are_ getting worse Addressed to Kathleen in reply to Tony's post: When YOU were a toddler, how many other toddlers did YOU bite? Did you kick, scratch or punch other toddlers as well? If so, then why? If not, then WHY not? Of course you, (and I) probably wanted to do so, but did we act out our basest natural children's instincts, or were we taught to restrain those impulses by our parents. They taught us that one could not just do what we felt like doing to others outside of our homes and families. Our wants were secondary to what was best for the greater good of society once we left our homes and family. It's different now. Wherever people are today they it is an extension of their home; their parents do not temper those impulses or teach restraint; rather they defend the most basest impulses of children. People have LOUD conversations on the trolley, buses, subways, streets, markets; wherever they wish. Please do not ask them to turn it down or have their conversations elsewhere etc. That is just ASKING for a violent confrontation or worse. It may not be the apocalypse, but it certainly heralds the decline of this society and our country, which is relatively new in comparison in the continuum of older societies on this planet. We may sneer at the other nations, cultures and religious societies whom might disagree with our world view and culture, but they just may well prevail after we have gone, just as they did before America was established. Not the apocalypse perhaps, but certainly something to consider. On 3/23/07 9:11 PM, Anthony West [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If the assailant turns out to be rabid, perhaps. -- Tony West - Original Message - From: Turner,Kathleen mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To: John Desmond mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ; univcity@list.purple.com Sent: Friday, March 23, 2007 7:29 PM Subject: RE: [UC] Maybe things _are_ getting worse Can you explain how one toddler biting another toddler is a sign of the apocalypse? Am I missing something here? Kathleen
