FOCP Vice President: "If I accuse the Friends of being white
supremacists, you have to publish your meeting minutes to prove me wrong!"
Sorry for the second response to the Vice President's outburst at a
straw man. I know many of you believe this type of post should be
ignored, even if it is a civic association leader making back room deals
about the future of our community. But the issue of the FOCP election
meeting minutes is important.
The FOCP minutes from Oct. 21, 2009 will prove that unanimous consent
was used instead of an election for Board members and Officers. There
will be no tally of votes in the minutes, which will help me prove that
a quorum had not been obtained for a legal election. The FOCP has no
documentation that will support that they had a quorum and a legal
election. Fran has a hand written list of the 8 or 9 members qualified
to vote.
The minutes will show that a separate unanimous consent approved 4
additional board members after the initial unanimous consent. (Note:
Not one single person in the packed room wanted to join the FOCP, it's
board, and participate in their election beyond the slate of candidates
advanced.) The minutes will show that Tony West brought Ed Haligan to
the Board during this second illegal process. (Clearly, the initial
"consent" had to occur immediately with no new names, so that the lack
of a quorum was hidden until it was too late.)
Have you ever heard of unanimous consent used, when the majority present
in the room were not members, and were present because they feared the
group's intentions???? (I was forced to sit in a corner by myself at
the packed dog park vote, so I wouldn't cheat-hahaha)
The illegal election and refusal to make the minutes publicly available
is merely the most recent occurrence to prove that the FOCP is a gang
that does not represent its membership, let alone the community. I knew
that FOCP would not make its minutes available, but I required a public
refusal.
Robert's Rules is very specific that unanimous consent is not allowed in
the absence of a quorum, and is very specific about the only legal
actions in the absence of a quorum. These calls for unanimous consent
have been used many times before to silence objections. The quick "yes"
vote hid the fact that only 8 or 9 ballots would be passed out. Mr.
Chance claimed that he thought he saw the exact minimum number of 18
members, so a real vote tally could not be allowed. Mr. Chance made a
huge "error" when he saw the exact minimum number for a quorum, and
unanimous consent was substituted for a real vote. It was only clear
when 8 voices were heard from the otherwise silent crowd!
" It's too late; you missed your chance; and your a hothead for
objecting now;" are the responses by those who pull this unanimous "yes"
maneuver. (I saw this technique when I was on the Board of FOCP, 10
years ago.
Glenn
On 4/13/2010 9:39 AM, Brian Siano wrote:
On Tue, Apr 13, 2010 at 8:30 AM, Glenn moyer <glen...@earthlink.net
<mailto:glen...@earthlink.net>> wrote:
Does anyone know why Mr. Chance does not subscribe to this listserve?
Mary,
Yes, I do.
Like Mr. West and Mr. Siano, he believes in concentrated power.
He does not believe in public notification, inclusion of the
public, nor publicly available information or discussion. (I know
this because he sends me insulting responses off of the list.)
I think Glenn's explained it well-- inadvertently. Why subscribe to a
listserv where people circulate lies about you? Glenn has no real
interest in real issues, and he doesn't scruple at lying about
people's reasons or motives. And as we all know, confronting lies
takes a lot of work... and even then, there are people who still
believe the lies, and the liars just dream up some more.
And, like Glenn Beck, Glenn Moyer drops reams of crazy... all the
while demanding that other people engage with him. It's not that his
issues are valid, or even important; it's that he's demanding
_attention_. His entire argument can be summed up as "Watch me as I
say Frank Chance hates people! If I accuse the Friends of being white
supremacists, you have to publish your meeting minutes to prove me
wrong! I can post that Tony West hates Jews, and you HAVE to reply to
THAT! I AM A REAL AND NATURAL LEADER OF THE COMMUNITY! I AM IMPORTANT!"
After replying once or twice, you hit diminishing returns.
If you want to know what's happening in the Park, just ask me, or
Tony, or stop by the table we've started running at the Farmer's
Markets. Or come to our meetings, the schedule of which is posted on
our website. If you want to get involved, join. Join and join the
Board as well: we always need people to do things.
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