Re: [UC] Why I'm concerned about police deployment

2007-10-31 Thread UNIVERSITY*CITOYEN 

Glenn wrote:

A few years ago this was cloaked behind "spin" like
special service district, community engagement,
upscale, and deliberative democracy.  As they say,
"the gloves are off."  


Dennis Kucinich pointed to the constitutional crisis
last night in the Drexel debates.  I think we are in
the midst of part of it here, in the upscale funky
district.




speaking of deliberative democracy, there was an article 
about that in today's dp, in reference to penn prez amy 
gutmann, who's made that phrase a hallmark of her 
administration:


   http://tinyurl.com/363kfq

excerpt:


University President Amy Gutmann has built her career as
a political theorist in the field of deliberative
democracy, which emphasizes the political values of
openness, transparency and publicity.

Gutmann has for the most part extended her philosophy to
her administration at Penn, extolling these principles in
her four years as president.

But her refusal to disclose the details behind former
Dean of Admissions Lee Stetson's resignation represents
an outlier in a long trend of openness as an academic and
administrator.

Gutmann's seminal work on deliberative democracy,
Democracy and Disagreement, written with Dennis Thompson
of Harvard University, devotes an entire chapter to the
value of publicity, in which she argues that citizens
should be trusted more than leaders with the information
necessary to make decisions.

Deliberative democracy experts disagree over the degree
to which transparency is appropriate, but Gutmann - who
refused to comment for this article - has stressed that
at least some measures for accountability in
decision-making are necessary.

"For those institutions that cannot function without high
degrees of secrecy, we suggest some institutional devices
to secure either prior or retrospective accountability,"
she wrote in a 1999 essay with Thompson.

Gutmann has stressed before that these principles also
apply to university governance, and when she first
assumed the presidency at Penn, her colleagues said this
academic philosophy would translate well.

"It's part of Penn tradition to have a really open and
deliberative process, but it also feeds into Amy's
background and training," Joann Mitchell, a member of
Gutmann's staff at Princeton and Penn, told The Daily
Princetonian at the time.




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Re: [UC] Why I'm concerned about police deployment

2007-10-31 Thread Glenn 
Wendell writes:

"I am pleased to report that an arrest was made by new
UCD Officer...

The police have been very responsive. UCD will step up
Police and Ambassador patrols in the area."


Al and others,

Craig Carnaroli, UCD chief, had a piece about the Penn
expansion in a recent DP article.  Sorry I didn't post
the link.

He seemed to brag that Penn's operating budget was
bigger than the city budget.  I really felt the
message that Penn plutocracy is more important than
the elected government was finally coming through loud
and clear.

A few years ago this was cloaked behind "spin" like
special service district, community engagement,
upscale, and deliberative democracy.  As they say,
"the gloves are off."  

Dennis Kucinich pointed to the constitutional crisis
last night in the Drexel debates.  I think we are in
the midst of part of it here, in the upscale funky
district.

I've been horrified by the district as are many
neighbors, so this Wendell letter is no surprise,
simply confirmation.

Nevertheless, thanks for posting this!

Glenn
















--- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> In a previous posting, I expressed concern about the
> police deployment  with 
> respect to the killing that occurred outside of Koko
> Bongo on  Sunday morning. 
> Having 10 cops there because there had been an
> "altercation" the  previous 
> week seemed excessive -- and I wonder whether this
> heavy police  presence 
> contributed to the precipitation of the gunfire.
>  
> The reason for the concern is the email message
> reproduced  below, in which 
> Wendell Lewis brags to the UCD Board of Directors 
> about the control this 
> private special services district exerts  over the
> police activity in the area.
>  
> I'd like to think that the chain of command for
> decisions as well as  
> responsibility goes up through the ranks to the
> Captain at the 18th Precinct and  
> eventually to the Police Commissioner, City Council,
> and the Mayor. Now, I learn  
> that Messers Ceasar and Gray, and Lt McCurdy, are
> "UCD officers" and that  
> UCD rather than the Philadelphia Police Dept "will
> step up Police ... patrols in 
>  the area."
>  
>  
> Always at your service &  ready for a dialog,
> Al Krigman   
> 
>
> 
>   
> 
> Recipients of the email message (the UCD Board of 
> Directors) were: 
> Craig  Carnaroli; Barry Grossbach; David Adelman;
> Della Clark; Dorothy Welch 
> Berlind;  James Tucker; Joe Trainor; Lindsay
> Johnston; Mark Mendenhall; 
> Maureen Rush;  Max Paul; Mike Brooke; Oliver
> Franklin; Susan Phillips; Tony 
> Bartolomeo;  William Schwartz; (police Lt John
> McCurdy).
> The text of the massage was:
> (http://www.iconworldwide.com/krf)  
>  
> This past Wednesday evening a  robbery and arrest
> occurred at 46th and 
> Larchwood.  While the  incident is troubling, I am
> pleased to report that an arrest 
> was made by new  UCD Officers Ceasar and Gray; both
> undercover at the time.  
> Lt. McCurdy  is trying to get information on the
> arrest of the second male 
> perpetrator. The  details are as follows:
> 
> 
>  
> Date and Time: Wednesday 10.24.07, 11:00 PM
> Location: 46th and Larchwood
>  
> Details: Complainant W/M 66 yrs. was approached by
> two B/M’s who began  
> punching the complainant to the ground in an attempt
> to take his  belongings.  The 
> males fled the scene; a short time later, one male
> was  apprehended and 
> identified by the complainant.  The suspect was 
> identified as B/M 17 yrs. The male 
> was charged with robbery and aggravated  assault
> among other charges.  Both 
> males were on bikes prior to the  robbery. 
> Description on #2 male is B/M in 
> this teen’s wearing dark  clothing.
>  
> The police have been very responsive. UCD will step
> up Police and  Ambassador 
> patrols in the area.
>  
> Lewis C. Wendell, Executive  Director
> University City  District
> 3940-42 Chestnut  Street
> Philadelphia, PA 19104
> Tel: 215/243-0555
> Fax:  215/243-0557
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
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Re: [UC] Why I'm concerned about police deployment

2007-10-31 Thread Frank 

What, exactly is a "UCD Officer?"

Frank

 “When fascism comes to America, it will be wrapped in a flag and  
carrying a cross.”

--Sinclair Lewis


On Oct 31, 2007, at 09:25 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

In a previous posting, I expressed concern about the police  
deployment with respect to the killing that occurred outside of  
Koko Bongo on Sunday morning. Having 10 cops there because there  
had been an "altercation" the previous week seemed excessive -- and  
I wonder whether this heavy police presence contributed to the  
precipitation of the gunfire.


The reason for the concern is the email message reproduced below,  
in which Wendell Lewis brags to the UCD Board of Directors about  
the control this private special services district exerts over the  
police activity in the area.


I'd like to think that the chain of command for decisions as well  
as responsibility goes up through the ranks to the Captain at the  
18th Precinct and eventually to the Police Commissioner, City  
Council, and the Mayor. Now, I learn that Messers Ceasar and Gray,  
and Lt McCurdy, are "UCD officers" and that UCD rather than the  
Philadelphia Police Dept "will step up Police ... patrols in the  
area."


Always at your service & ready for a dialog,
Al Krigman
Recipients of the email message (the UCD Board of Directors) were:
Craig Carnaroli; Barry Grossbach; David Adelman; Della Clark;  
Dorothy Welch Berlind; James Tucker; Joe Trainor; Lindsay Johnston;  
Mark Mendenhall; Maureen Rush; Max Paul; Mike Brooke; Oliver  
Franklin; Susan Phillips; Tony Bartolomeo; William Schwartz;  
(police Lt John McCurdy).

The text of the massage was:

This past Wednesday evening a robbery and arrest occurred at 46th  
and Larchwood.  While the incident is troubling, I am pleased to  
report that an arrest was made by new UCD Officers Ceasar and Gray;  
both undercover at the time.  Lt. McCurdy is trying to get  
information on the arrest of the second male perpetrator. The  
details are as follows:


Date and Time: Wednesday 10.24.07, 11:00 PM
Location: 46th and Larchwood

Details: Complainant W/M 66 yrs. was approached by two B/M’s who  
began punching the complainant to the ground in an attempt to take  
his belongings.  The males fled the scene; a short time later, one  
male was apprehended and identified by the complainant.  The  
suspect was identified as B/M 17 yrs. The male was charged with  
robbery and aggravated assault among other charges.  Both males  
were on bikes prior to the robbery.  Description on #2 male is B/M  
in this teen’s wearing dark clothing.


The police have been very responsive. UCD will step up Police and  
Ambassador patrols in the area.


Lewis C. Wendell, Executive Director
University City District
3940-42 Chestnut Street
Philadelphia, PA 19104
Tel: 215/243-0555
Fax: 215/243-0557



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Re: [UC] Why I'm concerned about police deployment - Force on Force

2007-10-31 Thread UNIVERSITY*CITOYEN 

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
2) UPenn is to be congradulated. The use of UCD is now generic, when 
Philadelphia Police Officers working in UC are now referred to as UCD 
officers.



is the "new ucd officer" that wendell referred to as 
"ceasar" the same as the guy named julius caesar, listed 
below as a phila police dept field intelligence officer for 
district 18?


http://www.ppdonline.org/hq_terrorism_field.php

anybody know? and who is grey?


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Re: [UC] Why I'm concerned about police deployment - Force on Force

2007-10-31 Thread craigsolve 


ucd -- making "arrests" ? "undercover" ??? 
 
welcome to our SECRET SERVICE DISTRICT 


1) Below is why large numbers of officers should be deployed in certain types 
of volatile situations. The doctrine of overwhelming force is timeless and 
universal whether old Sun Tzu or modern Powell espouses it.

Please keep all our law enforcement officers in your prayers; today we may lose 
one.

2) UPenn is to be congradulated. The use of UCD is now generic, when 
Philadelphia Police Officers working in UC are now referred to as UCD officers.

Ciao,

Craig


2 shootings of Philly officers within span of day



Associated Press


A police officer was shot in the head in North Philadelphia on Wednesday 
morning, a day after another officer was shot in the shoulder.

The officer was shot around 10:30 a.m. at a Dunkin' Donuts, according to 
Officer Raul Malveiro, a police spokesman. The injured officer was taken to 
Albert Einstein Medical Center, but his condition was not immediately known.

Police did not know whether the suspect fled in a vehicle or on foot.

Wednesday's shooting came about 12 hours after a masked gunman shot a police 
officer in the shoulder during a chase downtown. That gunmen apparently jumped 
into the Schuylkill River, where searchers later recovered a body. Police said 
Wednesday morning that they had not determined if it was the suspect's body.

Traffic Officer Mario Santiago responded to a report of shots fired shortly 
after 10 p.m. Tuesday. The gunman was in a sport utility vehicle when he fired 
at another vehicle, injuring two men and a woman, police said.

Responding to a radio call, Santiago started chasing the SUV. The gunman 
eventually got out of his vehicle and approached the squad car, firing twice 
through the window and hitting Santiago once in the right shoulder, police 
Commissioner Sylvester Johnson said.

Also Tuesday, a man who fatally shot a police officer during a robbery attempt 
at a bar last year pleaded guilty to first-degree murder and was sentenced to 
life in prison. In May 2006, Solomon Montgomery fired a shotgun out the back 
door of the bar, hitting Officer Gary Skerski in the neck.

Skerski's death marked the first killing of an on-duty officer in Philadelphia 
in more than a decade.
http://www.philly.com/philly/news/breaking/20071031_2_shootings_of_Philly_officers_within_span_of_day.html







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From: UNIVERSITY*CITOYEN <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Subject: Re: [UC] Why I'm concerned about police deployment




ucd -- making "arrests" ? "undercover" ??? 
 
welcome to our SECRET SERVICE DISTRICT 
 
 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 
> In a previous posting, I expressed concern about the police deployment > with 
> respect to the killing that occurred outside of Koko Bongo on > Sunday 
> morning. Having 10 cops there because there had been an > "altercation" the 
> previous week seemed excessive -- and I wonder whether > this heavy police 
> presence contributed to the precipitation of the gunfire. 
> > The reason for the concern is the email message reproduced below, in > 
> > which Wendell Lewis brags to the UCD Board of Directors about the > control 
> > this /private/ special services district exerts over the police > activity 
> > in the area. 
> > I'd like to think that the chain of command for decisions as well as > 
> > responsibility goes up through the ranks to the Captain at the 18th > 
> > Precinct and eventually to the Police Commissioner, City Council, and > the 
> > Mayor. Now, I learn that Messers Ceasar and Gray, and Lt McCurdy, > are 
> > "UCD officers" and that UCD rather than the Philadelphia Police Dept > 
> > "will step up Police ... patrols in the area." 
> > Always at your service & ready for a dialog, 
> Al Krigman 
>  
>  
> > *Recipients of the email message (the UCD Board of Directors) were:* 
> > /Craig Carnaroli; Barry Grossbach; David Adelman; Della Clark; 
> Dorothy Welch Berlind; James Tucker; Joe Trainor; Lindsay Johnston; 
> Mark Mendenhall; Maureen Rush; Max Paul; Mike Brooke; Oliver 
> Franklin; Susan Phillips; Tony Bartolomeo; William Schwartz; (police 
> Lt John McCurdy)/. 
> > *The text of the massage was:* <http://www.iconworldwide.com/krf> 
> > This past Wednesday evening a robbery and arrest occurred at 46^th 
> and Larchwood. While the incident is troubling, I am pleased to 
> report that an arrest was made by new UCD Officers Ceasar and Gray; 
> both undercover at the time. Lt. McCurdy is trying to get 
> inform

Re: [UC] Why I'm concerned about police deployment

2007-10-31 Thread UNIVERSITY*CITOYEN 

ucd -- making "arrests" ?  "undercover" ???

welcome to our SECRET SERVICE DISTRICT




[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
In a previous posting, I expressed concern about the police deployment 
with respect to the killing that occurred outside of Koko Bongo on 
Sunday morning. Having 10 cops there because there had been an 
"altercation" the previous week seemed excessive -- and I wonder whether 
this heavy police presence contributed to the precipitation of the gunfire.
 
The reason for the concern is the email message reproduced below, in 
which Wendell Lewis brags to the UCD Board of Directors about the 
control this /private/ special services district exerts over the police 
activity in the area.
 
I'd like to think that the chain of command for decisions as well as 
responsibility goes up through the ranks to the Captain at the 18th 
Precinct and eventually to the Police Commissioner, City Council, and 
the Mayor. Now, I learn that Messers Ceasar and Gray, and Lt McCurdy, 
are "UCD officers" and that UCD rather than the Philadelphia Police Dept 
"will step up Police ... patrols in the area."
 
Always at your service & ready for a dialog,

Al Krigman



*Recipients of the email message (the UCD Board of Directors) were:*

/Craig Carnaroli; Barry Grossbach; David Adelman; Della Clark;
Dorothy Welch Berlind; James Tucker; Joe Trainor; Lindsay Johnston;
Mark Mendenhall; Maureen Rush; Max Paul; Mike Brooke; Oliver
Franklin; Susan Phillips; Tony Bartolomeo; William Schwartz; (police
Lt John McCurdy)/.

*The text of the massage was:* 

This past Wednesday evening a robbery and arrest occurred at 46^th
and Larchwood.  While the incident is troubling, I am pleased to
report that an arrest was made by new UCD Officers Ceasar and Gray;
both undercover at the time.  Lt. McCurdy is trying to get
information on the arrest of the second male perpetrator. The
details are as follows:

 
Date and Time: Wednesday 10.24.07, 11:00 PM

Location: 46^th and Larchwood
 
Details: Complainant W/M 66 yrs. was approached by two B/M’s who

began punching the complainant to the ground in an attempt to take
his belongings.  The males fled the scene; a short time later, one
male was apprehended and identified by the complainant.  The suspect
was identified as B/M 17 yrs. The male was charged with robbery and
aggravated assault among other charges.  Both males were on bikes
prior to the robbery.  Description on #2 male is B/M in this teen’s
wearing dark clothing.
 
The police have been very responsive. UCD will step up Police and

Ambassador patrols in the area.
 
Lewis C. Wendell, Executive Director

University City District
3940-42 Chestnut Street
Philadelphia, PA 19104
Tel: 215/243-0555
Fax: 215/243-0557
















































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Re: [UC] Why I'm concerned about police deployment

2007-10-31 Thread Jim Cummings 
There are undercover UCD officers! Doesn't anyone on this list care
that a non-publicly accountable group is arresting people. That is
vigilantism, what about the rule of law and order? Do you trust the
UCD to decide who is any enemy of the people and who is not?
Jim Cummings

On 10/31/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>
> In a previous posting, I expressed concern about the police deployment with
> respect to the killing that occurred outside of Koko Bongo on Sunday
> morning. Having 10 cops there because there had been an "altercation" the
> previous week seemed excessive -- and I wonder whether this heavy police
> presence contributed to the precipitation of the gunfire.
>
> The reason for the concern is the email message reproduced below, in which
> Wendell Lewis brags to the UCD Board of Directors about the control this
> private special services district exerts over the police activity in the
> area.
>
> I'd like to think that the chain of command for decisions as well as
> responsibility goes up through the ranks to the Captain at the 18th Precinct
> and eventually to the Police Commissioner, City Council, and the Mayor. Now,
> I learn that Messers Ceasar and Gray, and Lt McCurdy, are "UCD officers" and
> that UCD rather than the Philadelphia Police Dept "will step up Police ...
> patrols in the area."
>
>
> Always at your service & ready for a dialog,
> Al Krigman 
>  
>
>
> Recipients of the email message (the UCD Board of Directors) were:
>
>
> Craig Carnaroli; Barry Grossbach; David Adelman; Della Clark; Dorothy Welch
> Berlind; James Tucker; Joe Trainor; Lindsay Johnston; Mark Mendenhall;
> Maureen Rush; Max Paul; Mike Brooke; Oliver Franklin; Susan Phillips; Tony
> Bartolomeo; William Schwartz; (police Lt John McCurdy).
>
> The text of the massage was:
>
>
> This past Wednesday evening a robbery and arrest occurred at 46th and
> Larchwood.  While the incident is troubling, I am pleased to report that an
> arrest was made by new UCD Officers Ceasar and Gray; both undercover at the
> time.  Lt. McCurdy is trying to get information on the arrest of the second
> male perpetrator. The details are as follows:
>
>
> Date and Time: Wednesday 10.24.07, 11:00 PM
> Location: 46th and Larchwood
>
> Details: Complainant W/M 66 yrs. was approached by two B/M's who began
> punching the complainant to the ground in an attempt to take his belongings.
>  The males fled the scene; a short time later, one male was apprehended and
> identified by the complainant.  The suspect was identified as B/M 17 yrs.
> The male was charged with robbery and aggravated assault among other
> charges.  Both males were on bikes prior to the robbery.  Description on #2
> male is B/M in this teen's wearing dark clothing.
>
> The police have been very responsive. UCD will step up Police and Ambassador
> patrols in the area.
>
> Lewis C. Wendell, Executive Director
> University City District
> 3940-42 Chestnut Street
> Philadelphia, PA 19104
> Tel: 215/243-0555
> Fax: 215/243-0557
>
>
> 
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[UC] Why I'm concerned about police deployment

2007-10-31 Thread Krfapt 
In a previous posting, I expressed concern about the police deployment  with 
respect to the killing that occurred outside of Koko Bongo on  Sunday morning. 
Having 10 cops there because there had been an "altercation" the  previous 
week seemed excessive -- and I wonder whether this heavy police  presence 
contributed to the precipitation of the gunfire.
 
The reason for the concern is the email message reproduced  below, in which 
Wendell Lewis brags to the UCD Board of Directors  about the control this 
private special services district exerts  over the police activity in the area.
 
I'd like to think that the chain of command for decisions as well as  
responsibility goes up through the ranks to the Captain at the 18th Precinct 
and  
eventually to the Police Commissioner, City Council, and the Mayor. Now, I 
learn  
that Messers Ceasar and Gray, and Lt McCurdy, are "UCD officers" and that  
UCD rather than the Philadelphia Police Dept "will step up Police ... patrols 
in 
 the area."
 
 
Always at your service &  ready for a dialog,
Al Krigman   

   

  

Recipients of the email message (the UCD Board of  Directors) were: 
Craig  Carnaroli; Barry Grossbach; David Adelman; Della Clark; Dorothy Welch 
Berlind;  James Tucker; Joe Trainor; Lindsay Johnston; Mark Mendenhall; 
Maureen Rush;  Max Paul; Mike Brooke; Oliver Franklin; Susan Phillips; Tony 
Bartolomeo;  William Schwartz; (police Lt John McCurdy).
The text of the massage was: (http://www.iconworldwide.com/krf)  
 
This past Wednesday evening a  robbery and arrest occurred at 46th and 
Larchwood.  While the  incident is troubling, I am pleased to report that an 
arrest 
was made by new  UCD Officers Ceasar and Gray; both undercover at the time.  
Lt. McCurdy  is trying to get information on the arrest of the second male 
perpetrator. The  details are as follows:


 
Date and Time: Wednesday 10.24.07, 11:00 PM
Location: 46th and Larchwood
 
Details: Complainant W/M 66 yrs. was approached by two B/M’s who began  
punching the complainant to the ground in an attempt to take his  belongings.  
The 
males fled the scene; a short time later, one male was  apprehended and 
identified by the complainant.  The suspect was  identified as B/M 17 yrs. The 
male 
was charged with robbery and aggravated  assault among other charges.  Both 
males were on bikes prior to the  robbery.  Description on #2 male is B/M in 
this teen’s wearing dark  clothing.
 
The police have been very responsive. UCD will step up Police and  Ambassador 
patrols in the area.
 
Lewis C. Wendell, Executive  Director
University City  District
3940-42 Chestnut  Street
Philadelphia, PA 19104
Tel: 215/243-0555
Fax:  215/243-0557





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