Fwd: [UC] Trees on 4500 Walnut Street - Ordinance Guidelines - Don't Snitch?

2007-04-23 Thread pmuyehara
 Craig,
 What is the source of the snipped language?
 Does this mean the pit itself is 3 X 4', which is what I'd think was intended, 
or that that much clearance is required from the base of the trunk, which is 
what it seems to say? 
 
 Paul
 
 
 There are reasonable practices meant to maximize tree viability in urban 
settings.  No pavement shall be laid within an area of three (3) feet by four 
(4) feet around the base of the trunk of any such tree nor shall any stone, 
gravel, cement, lumber, or other material be deposited upon such area.   
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In a message dated 4/22/2007 7:29:30 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL 
PROTECTED] writes:   Someone private-mailed me and accused me of  
“dime-dropping” on the “whoever”with LI and asked me to post a 
clarification.  Are you stating a participant on this listserv tried to 
intimidate you with the threat of Don't Snitch? How sad. Out the weenie, SAli.  
 LI codes are meant to support a reasonable and decent quality of life for the 
general populace.... I plan to check with LI to see what the regulations 
are, what forms are used.  There are reasonable practices meant to maximize 
tree viability in urban settings.   No pavement shall be laid within an area of 
three (3) feet by four (4) feet around the base of the trunk of any such tree 
nor shall any stone, gravel, cement, lumber, or other material be deposited 
upon such area. Private Contractors. Any person engaged in the business of 
planting, removing, spraying, pruning, bark tracing, and root pruning of street 
trees in the City of Philadelphia shall comply with the following rules and 
regulations relating to the proper performance of said work:
 
He/she shall obtain a permit before performing any work on the street trees 
in the City.
  He/she shall sign an agreement whereby he/she will agree to hold the City of 
Philadelphia and the Commission harmless from any and all claims of whatever 
nature arising from damage of property or injury to any persons, however 
caused, through the exercise of said permit either by himself/herself, his/her 
agent, servant, or employee.
  He/she shall obtain comprehensive liability insurance for injury to any 
person or persons and for damage to any property, in such amount as the 
Commission may require.
  A certificate of insurance evidencing such coverage shall be placed on file 
with the Commission.
  He/she shall perform the work described above in good, workmanlike fashion, 
and in addition, shall comply with the published regulations for the care of 
street trees issued by the Commission. General guidelines are available at 
http://www.fairmountpark.org/StreetTree.asp   I think man had a hand in 
this one.   By keeping his hand in his pocket instead of spending money to the 
do the job right the first time.   For over 30 years Stoneleigh has been a real 
estate gateway to hell and anguish in West Philly. The city stops responding 
when people stop complaining, because a cash strapped city hopes the private 
sector will remediate this valuable piece of real estate. In 1980 Court of 
Common Pleas almost seized the property, while the DA was prosecuting the owner 
for a plethora of significant code violations.   Ever wonder why the exterior 
rain conductors still aren't connected to the DWV lines?   It is a shame the 
building suffers from inept management.   Craig Melidosian Past President 
Fairmount Park Commission Advisory Council 
 
 
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Fwd: [UC] Trees on 4500 Walnut Street

2007-04-22 Thread pmuyehara
  Perhaps if any of the tree experts on the list know, it would be helpful to 
post guidance on the accepted standards for tree openings in sidewalks. 
 
 The trees no doubt would prefer no concrete at all. It seems obvious that 
laying the concrete up against the trunk is really bad. But what is one to do, 
when its time to replace the sidewalk, especially if the roots are pushing up 
the concrete causing tripping hazards and hassles for those in wheelchairs, 
baby carriages, etc?

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   Someone private-mailed me and accused me of  “dime-dropping” on the 
“whoever”  with LI and asked me to post a clarification.   I don’t plan to 
“dime-drop” on anyone, not my place. I plan to check with LI to see what the 
regulations are, what forms are used.I keep seeing sidewalks with cement 
all around the base of trees not leaving  enough room for water. I had an 
incident a few years ago with a neighbor’s tree he cemented around the base, 
the tree later fell and destroyed my fence!   Also, I happen to know of a woman 
who lost her husband and unborn child due  to a tree falling on the car her 
family was riding in, she was seriously injured but  lived. Not a happy 
picture. It was just lucky the trees didn’t kill anyone.Act of God? … 
probably not. I think man had a hand in this one.   S  

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Re: Fwd: [UC] Trees on 4500 Walnut Street

2007-04-22 Thread Philip Forrest
That's easy, you build up your frame a little higher and make the sidewalk 
thicker.  They don't have to be perfectly level either.  None of these 
sidewalks in Philly are.  It's just a little bit more material usage, but in 
the end, like in most situations, a little more investment, patience and work 
put into the project makes it more worthwhile and longer lasting.  

On Sunday 22 April 2007 20:04, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   Perhaps if any of the tree experts on the list know, it would be helpful
 to post guidance on the accepted standards for tree openings in sidewalks.

  The trees no doubt would prefer no concrete at all. It seems obvious that
 laying the concrete up against the trunk is really bad. But what is one to
 do, when its time to replace the sidewalk, especially if the roots are
 pushing up the concrete causing tripping hazards and hassles for those in
 wheelchairs, baby carriages, etc?

  -Original Message-
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  To: UnivCity@list.purple.com
  Sent: Sun, 22 Apr 2007 7:27 PM
  Subject: RE: [UC] Trees on 4500 Walnut Street

Someone private-mailed me and accused me of  “dime-dropping” on the
 “whoever”  with LI and asked me to post a clarification.   I don’t plan to
 “dime-drop” on anyone, not my place. I plan to check with LI to see what
 the regulations are, what forms are used.I keep seeing sidewalks with
 cement all around the base of trees not leaving  enough room for water. I
 had an incident a few years ago with a neighbor’s tree he cemented around
 the base, the tree later fell and destroyed my fence!   Also, I happen to
 know of a woman who lost her husband and unborn child due  to a tree
 falling on the car her family was riding in, she was seriously injured but 
 lived. Not a happy picture. It was just lucky the trees didn’t kill anyone.
Act of God? … probably not. I think man had a hand in this one.   S
 
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