Re: [UC] Fwd: robbery at gunpoint 10:30ish aug1, 2011

[UNIVERSITY*CITOYEN]

exactly.


On 8/2/11 11:44 AM, Margie Politzer wrote:

Vladimir Sled was an innocent victim. Evan Morris was the aggressor.

http://www.philly.com/philly/news/pennsylvania/20110731_Drexel_student_s_killer_acted_in_self-defense__police_say.html


Margie



On Aug 2, 2011, at 11:20 AM, UNIVERSITY*CITOYEN wrote:


drexel student stabbed to death near campus -- without the
accompanying vladimir sled outrage/vigil/posturing:



http://www.dailypennsylvanian.com/article/drexel-student-stabbed-death-near-campus




Drexel student stabbed to death near campus

Philadelphia police found Evan Morris at an apartment at 34th and
Race with critical stab wounds

by Sarah Gadsden | Friday, July 29, 2011 at 2:14 pm

Drexel University student Evan Morris died early Friday morning,
shortly after Philadelphia Police found him in a residence near
campus with critical stab wounds.

Police were responding to a reported break-in at about 4:55 a.m. when
they found Morris, the alleged intruder, according to the
Philadelphia Daily News. Morris, 22, was pronounced dead at the
Hospital of the University of Pennsylvania at 5:58 a.m.

The stabbing occurred at 34th and Race streets after an altercation
with “a student from another university,” according to a statement
from Drexel. Additional information about the other student is
currently unavailable. Penn’s Department of Public Safety is not
aware of any Penn students involved at this time.

The Philadelphia Inquirer reported that the altercation occurred
after Morris kicked in the apartment's door, and that police said
they do not expect to file charges against the other student because
they believe the stabbing was in self-defense.

"Things could change, and we're still investigating, but that's what
it looks like right now," Philadelphia Police Captain James Clark
told the Inquirer on Friday.

The incident, which occurred at an off-campus apartment at 34th and
Race streets, is under investigation. The Philadelphia Homicide
Division is handling the investigation with the cooperation of the
Drexel Police, according to Drexel's statement.

“University officials have been in contact with Evan’s family and
offered our sincerest condolences and support,” the statement said.
“In a close-knit community like Drexel, the death of a fellow student
is deeply felt.” Drexel’s Counseling Center is open to those affected
by the incident.

The Drexel Department of Public Safety did not issue an alert to
students. According to the statement, a DrexelALERT was not sent
because the non-Drexel student was taken into custody immediately
following the incident.

The intersection of Race and 34th streets is about four blocks north
of Market Street, which marks the northernmost edge of the Penn DPS
patrol zone. Race Street borders Drexel’s campus.










On 8/2/11 10:45 AM, Linda wrote:



On Mon, Aug 1, 2011 at 11:49 PM, Jason's Pet Care
mailto:jasonspetc...@gmail.com>> wrote:

one shot fired on the s. 200 block of 46th st just north of spruce
around 10:30 i think. cops were out there and said someone was robbed.
they found the casing but not the perp.



Begin forwarded message:


*From: *Amara Rockar mailto:aroc...@gmail.com>>
*Date: *August 2, 2011 10:05:45 AM EDT
*Subject: **Re: [UCNeighbors] robbery at gunpoint 10:30ish aug1, 2011*
*
*
According to SW Detective Joseph Murray, the victim gave up his wallet
but decided the gun wasn't real and demanded the wallet back and then
was shot.

Murray's response to a recent post on West Philly Local and comments
has a lot of good information in it and I thought I'd share:

TheFuzz9143 Says:
July 31st, 2011 at 11:32 pm



AFB, I respect your decision to not give up your things during a
robbery. I don’t agree with it, but to each his own. You cited a
robbery from earlier this month in which a store clerk was shot in the
face even though he gave up the money that was demanded of him. If we
were going tit-for-tat I could remind you of Mustafa Shaker who was
killed in his store at Front and Girard in late May. Shaker had enough
of being a victim and started throwing cans at the robbers. One of the
guys turned and shot Shaker in the face with a shotgun as he fled the
store. Could his death have been prevented by simply giving them what
they wanted? Who knows. All I know is I will never tell a 20 year old
Penn student to take a guess on whether a gun is real or not so he can
keep his iPhone.

In 2009, the FBI states police departments around the country handled
more than 400,000 robberies. Within those numbers we can find stories
of heroes and stories of tragic, senseless loss. I recommend giving
your phone up when approached by someone with a gun. In West and
Southwest Philly, we have a damn good track record of catching
robbers. In the past few months you may have read some of the
robberies I’ve posted on Twitter. You see that the 18th district
plain

Re: [UC] Fwd: robbery at gunpoint 10:30ish aug1, 2011

[Margie Politzer]

Vladimir Sled was an innocent victim. Evan Morris was the aggressor.

http://www.philly.com/philly/news/pennsylvania/20110731_Drexel_student_s_killer_acted_in_self-defense__police_say.html

Margie



On Aug 2, 2011, at 11:20 AM, UNIVERSITY*CITOYEN wrote:

drexel student stabbed to death near campus -- without the  
accompanying vladimir sled outrage/vigil/posturing:




http://www.dailypennsylvanian.com/article/drexel-student-stabbed-death-near-campus



Drexel student stabbed to death near campus

Philadelphia police found Evan Morris at an apartment at 34th and
Race with critical stab wounds

by Sarah Gadsden | Friday, July 29, 2011 at 2:14 pm

Drexel University student Evan Morris died early Friday morning,
shortly after Philadelphia Police found him in a residence near
campus with critical stab wounds.

Police were responding to a reported break-in at about 4:55 a.m. when
they found Morris, the alleged intruder, according to the
Philadelphia Daily News. Morris, 22, was pronounced dead at the
Hospital of the University of Pennsylvania at 5:58 a.m.

The stabbing occurred at 34th and Race streets after an altercation
with “a student from another university,” according to a  
statement

from Drexel. Additional information about the other student is
currently unavailable. Penn’s Department of Public Safety is not
aware of any Penn students involved at this time.

The Philadelphia Inquirer reported that the altercation occurred
after Morris kicked in the apartment's door, and that police said
they do not expect to file charges against the other student because
they believe the stabbing was in self-defense.

"Things could change, and we're still investigating, but that's what
it looks like right now," Philadelphia Police Captain James Clark
told the Inquirer on Friday.

The incident, which occurred at an off-campus apartment at 34th and
Race streets, is under investigation. The Philadelphia Homicide
Division is handling the investigation with the cooperation of the
Drexel Police, according to Drexel's statement.

“University officials have been in contact with Evan’s family and
offered our sincerest condolences and support,” the statement said.
“In a close-knit community like Drexel, the death of a fellow  
student
is deeply felt.” Drexel’s Counseling Center is open to those  
affected

by the incident.

The Drexel Department of Public Safety did not issue an alert to
students. According to the statement, a DrexelALERT was not sent
because the non-Drexel student was taken into custody immediately
following the incident.

The intersection of Race and 34th streets is about four blocks north
of Market Street, which marks the northernmost edge of the Penn DPS
patrol zone. Race Street borders Drexel’s campus.










On 8/2/11 10:45 AM, Linda wrote:



On Mon, Aug 1, 2011 at 11:49 PM, Jason's Pet Care
mailto:jasonspetc...@gmail.com>> wrote:

   one shot fired on the s. 200 block of 46th st just north of  
spruce
   around 10:30 i think. cops were out there and said someone was  
robbed.

   they found the casing but not the perp.



Begin forwarded message:


*From: *Amara Rockar mailto:aroc...@gmail.com>>
*Date: *August 2, 2011 10:05:45 AM EDT
*Subject: **Re: [UCNeighbors] robbery at gunpoint 10:30ish aug1,  
2011*

*
*
According to SW Detective Joseph Murray, the victim gave up his  
wallet
but decided the gun wasn't real and demanded the wallet back and  
then

was shot.

Murray's response to a recent post on West Philly Local and comments
has a lot of good information in it and I thought I'd share:

TheFuzz9143 Says:
July 31st, 2011 at 11:32 pm



AFB, I respect your decision to not give up your things during a
robbery. I don’t agree with it, but to each his own. You cited a
robbery from earlier this month in which a store clerk was shot in  
the
face even though he gave up the money that was demanded of him. If  
we

were going tit-for-tat I could remind you of Mustafa Shaker who was
killed in his store at Front and Girard in late May. Shaker had  
enough
of being a victim and started throwing cans at the robbers. One of  
the
guys turned and shot Shaker in the face with a shotgun as he fled  
the
store. Could his death have been prevented by simply giving them  
what
they wanted? Who knows. All I know is I will never tell a 20 year  
old
Penn student to take a guess on whether a gun is real or not so he  
can

keep his iPhone.

In 2009, the FBI states police departments around the country  
handled
more than 400,000 robberies. Within those numbers we can find  
stories

of heroes and stories of tragic, senseless loss. I recommend giving
your phone up when approached by someone with a gun. In West and
Southwest Philly, we have a damn good track record of catching
robbers. In the past few months you may have read some of the
robberies I’ve posted on Twitter. You see that the 18th district
plain

RE: [UC] Fwd: robbery at gunpoint 10:30ish aug1, 2011

[Karen Allen]

Based solely on the news reports, it appeared that it was not a random crime, 
the people involved knew one another, and the victim brought it on himself. 
 

> From: horow...@wharton.upenn.edu
> To: laserb...@speedymail.org; univcity@list.purple.com
> Subject: RE: [UC] Fwd: robbery at gunpoint 10:30ish aug1, 2011
> Date: Tue, 2 Aug 2011 15:26:13 +
> 
> I heard that it was self defense, that the student had broken into someone 
> else's apartment and was threatening him.
> 
> 
> Tina Horowitz
> Wharton Financial Institutions Center
> University of Pennsylvania
> 2306 SH-DH, 3620 Locust Walk
> Philadelphia, PA 19104
> 215-573-7382
> fax 215-573-8757
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: owner-univc...@list.purple.com [mailto:owner-univc...@list.purple.com] 
> On Behalf Of UNIVERSITY*CITOYEN
> Sent: Tuesday, August 02, 2011 11:20 AM
> To: univcity@list.purple.com
> Subject: Re: [UC] Fwd: robbery at gunpoint 10:30ish aug1, 2011
> 
> drexel student stabbed to death near campus -- without the accompanying 
> vladimir sled outrage/vigil/posturing:
> 
> 
> > http://www.dailypennsylvanian.com/article/drexel-student-stabbed-death-near-campus
> 
> > Drexel student stabbed to death near campus
> >
> > Philadelphia police found Evan Morris at an apartment at 34th and
> > Race with critical stab wounds
> >
> > by Sarah Gadsden | Friday, July 29, 2011 at 2:14 pm
> >
> > Drexel University student Evan Morris died early Friday morning,
> > shortly after Philadelphia Police found him in a residence near
> > campus with critical stab wounds.
> >
> > Police were responding to a reported break-in at about 4:55 a.m. when
> > they found Morris, the alleged intruder, according to the
> > Philadelphia Daily News. Morris, 22, was pronounced dead at the
> > Hospital of the University of Pennsylvania at 5:58 a.m.
> >
> > The stabbing occurred at 34th and Race streets after an altercation
> > with “a student from another university,” according to a statement
> > from Drexel. Additional information about the other student is
> > currently unavailable. Penn’s Department of Public Safety is not
> > aware of any Penn students involved at this time.
> >
> > The Philadelphia Inquirer reported that the altercation occurred
> > after Morris kicked in the apartment's door, and that police said
> > they do not expect to file charges against the other student because
> > they believe the stabbing was in self-defense.
> >
> > "Things could change, and we're still investigating, but that's what
> > it looks like right now," Philadelphia Police Captain James Clark
> > told the Inquirer on Friday.
> >
> > The incident, which occurred at an off-campus apartment at 34th and
> > Race streets, is under investigation. The Philadelphia Homicide
> > Division is handling the investigation with the cooperation of the
> > Drexel Police, according to Drexel's statement.
> >
> > “University officials have been in contact with Evan’s family and
> > offered our sincerest condolences and support,” the statement said.
> > “In a close-knit community like Drexel, the death of a fellow student
> > is deeply felt.” Drexel’s Counseling Center is open to those affected
> > by the incident.
> >
> > The Drexel Department of Public Safety did not issue an alert to
> > students. According to the statement, a DrexelALERT was not sent
> > because the non-Drexel student was taken into custody immediately
> > following the incident.
> >
> > The intersection of Race and 34th streets is about four blocks north
> > of Market Street, which marks the northernmost edge of the Penn DPS
> > patrol zone. Race Street borders Drexel’s campus.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On 8/2/11 10:45 AM, Linda wrote:
> >
> >> On Mon, Aug 1, 2011 at 11:49 PM, Jason's Pet Care
> >> mailto:jasonspetc...@gmail.com>> wrote:
> >>
> >> one shot fired on the s. 200 block of 46th st just north of spruce
> >> around 10:30 i think. cops were out there and said someone was robbed.
> >> they found the casing but not the perp.
> >>
> >
> > Begin forwarded message:
> >
> >> *From: *Amara Rockar mailto:aroc...@gmail.com>>
> >> *Date: *August 2, 2011 10:05:45 AM EDT
> >> *Subject: **Re: [UCNeighbors] robbery at gunpoint 10:30ish aug1, 2011*
> >> *
> >> *
> >> According to SW Detective Joseph Murray, the victim gave up his wallet
> >> but decided the gun wasn't real and demanded the 

RE: [UC] Fwd: robbery at gunpoint 10:30ish aug1, 2011

[Horowitz, Tina]

I heard that it was self defense, that the student had broken into someone 
else's apartment and was threatening him.


Tina Horowitz
Wharton Financial Institutions Center
University of Pennsylvania
2306 SH-DH, 3620 Locust Walk
Philadelphia, PA 19104
215-573-7382
fax 215-573-8757


-Original Message-
From: owner-univc...@list.purple.com [mailto:owner-univc...@list.purple.com] On 
Behalf Of UNIVERSITY*CITOYEN
Sent: Tuesday, August 02, 2011 11:20 AM
To: univcity@list.purple.com
Subject: Re: [UC] Fwd: robbery at gunpoint 10:30ish aug1, 2011

drexel student stabbed to death near campus -- without the accompanying 
vladimir sled outrage/vigil/posturing:


> http://www.dailypennsylvanian.com/article/drexel-student-stabbed-death-near-campus

> Drexel student stabbed to death near campus
>
> Philadelphia police found Evan Morris at an apartment at 34th and
> Race with critical stab wounds
>
> by Sarah Gadsden | Friday, July 29, 2011 at 2:14 pm
>
> Drexel University student Evan Morris died early Friday morning,
> shortly after Philadelphia Police found him in a residence near
> campus with critical stab wounds.
>
> Police were responding to a reported break-in at about 4:55 a.m. when
> they found Morris, the alleged intruder, according to the
> Philadelphia Daily News. Morris, 22, was pronounced dead at the
> Hospital of the University of Pennsylvania at 5:58 a.m.
>
> The stabbing occurred at 34th and Race streets after an altercation
> with “a student from another university,” according to a statement
> from Drexel. Additional information about the other student is
> currently unavailable. Penn’s Department of Public Safety is not
> aware of any Penn students involved at this time.
>
> The Philadelphia Inquirer reported that the altercation occurred
> after Morris kicked in the apartment's door, and that police said
> they do not expect to file charges against the other student because
> they believe the stabbing was in self-defense.
>
> "Things could change, and we're still investigating, but that's what
> it looks like right now," Philadelphia Police Captain James Clark
> told the Inquirer on Friday.
>
> The incident, which occurred at an off-campus apartment at 34th and
> Race streets, is under investigation. The Philadelphia Homicide
> Division is handling the investigation with the cooperation of the
> Drexel Police, according to Drexel's statement.
>
> “University officials have been in contact with Evan’s family and
> offered our sincerest condolences and support,” the statement said.
> “In a close-knit community like Drexel, the death of a fellow student
> is deeply felt.” Drexel’s Counseling Center is open to those affected
> by the incident.
>
> The Drexel Department of Public Safety did not issue an alert to
> students. According to the statement, a DrexelALERT was not sent
> because the non-Drexel student was taken into custody immediately
> following the incident.
>
> The intersection of Race and 34th streets is about four blocks north
> of Market Street, which marks the northernmost edge of the Penn DPS
> patrol zone. Race Street borders Drexel’s campus.









On 8/2/11 10:45 AM, Linda wrote:
>
>> On Mon, Aug 1, 2011 at 11:49 PM, Jason's Pet Care
>> mailto:jasonspetc...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>
>> one shot fired on the s. 200 block of 46th st just north of spruce
>> around 10:30 i think. cops were out there and said someone was robbed.
>> they found the casing but not the perp.
>>
>
> Begin forwarded message:
>
>> *From: *Amara Rockar mailto:aroc...@gmail.com>>
>> *Date: *August 2, 2011 10:05:45 AM EDT
>> *Subject: **Re: [UCNeighbors] robbery at gunpoint 10:30ish aug1, 2011*
>> *
>> *
>> According to SW Detective Joseph Murray, the victim gave up his wallet
>> but decided the gun wasn't real and demanded the wallet back and then
>> was shot.
>>
>> Murray's response to a recent post on West Philly Local and comments
>> has a lot of good information in it and I thought I'd share:
>>
>> TheFuzz9143 Says:
>> July 31st, 2011 at 11:32 pm
>> <http://www.westphillylocal.com/2011/07/31/another-rash-of-neighborhood-robberies-keep-police-busy/#comment-8700>
>>
>> AFB, I respect your decision to not give up your things during a
>> robbery. I don’t agree with it, but to each his own. You cited a
>> robbery from earlier this month in which a store clerk was shot in the
>> face even though he gave up the money that was demanded of him. If we
>> were going tit-for-tat I could remind you of Mustafa Shaker who was
>> killed in his store at Front and Girard in late May. Shaker had enough
>

Re: [UC] Fwd: robbery at gunpoint 10:30ish aug1, 2011

[UNIVERSITY*CITOYEN]

drexel student stabbed to death near campus -- without the accompanying 
vladimir sled outrage/vigil/posturing:




http://www.dailypennsylvanian.com/article/drexel-student-stabbed-death-near-campus



Drexel student stabbed to death near campus

Philadelphia police found Evan Morris at an apartment at 34th and
Race with critical stab wounds

by Sarah Gadsden | Friday, July 29, 2011 at 2:14 pm

Drexel University student Evan Morris died early Friday morning,
shortly after Philadelphia Police found him in a residence near
campus with critical stab wounds.

Police were responding to a reported break-in at about 4:55 a.m. when
they found Morris, the alleged intruder, according to the
Philadelphia Daily News. Morris, 22, was pronounced dead at the
Hospital of the University of Pennsylvania at 5:58 a.m.

The stabbing occurred at 34th and Race streets after an altercation
with “a student from another university,” according to a statement
from Drexel. Additional information about the other student is
currently unavailable. Penn’s Department of Public Safety is not
aware of any Penn students involved at this time.

The Philadelphia Inquirer reported that the altercation occurred
after Morris kicked in the apartment's door, and that police said
they do not expect to file charges against the other student because
they believe the stabbing was in self-defense.

"Things could change, and we're still investigating, but that's what
it looks like right now," Philadelphia Police Captain James Clark
told the Inquirer on Friday.

The incident, which occurred at an off-campus apartment at 34th and
Race streets, is under investigation. The Philadelphia Homicide
Division is handling the investigation with the cooperation of the
Drexel Police, according to Drexel's statement.

“University officials have been in contact with Evan’s family and
offered our sincerest condolences and support,” the statement said.
“In a close-knit community like Drexel, the death of a fellow student
is deeply felt.” Drexel’s Counseling Center is open to those affected
by the incident.

The Drexel Department of Public Safety did not issue an alert to
students. According to the statement, a DrexelALERT was not sent
because the non-Drexel student was taken into custody immediately
following the incident.

The intersection of Race and 34th streets is about four blocks north
of Market Street, which marks the northernmost edge of the Penn DPS
patrol zone. Race Street borders Drexel’s campus.










On 8/2/11 10:45 AM, Linda wrote:



On Mon, Aug 1, 2011 at 11:49 PM, Jason's Pet Care
mailto:jasonspetc...@gmail.com>> wrote:

one shot fired on the s. 200 block of 46th st just north of spruce
around 10:30 i think. cops were out there and said someone was robbed.
they found the casing but not the perp.



Begin forwarded message:


*From: *Amara Rockar mailto:aroc...@gmail.com>>
*Date: *August 2, 2011 10:05:45 AM EDT
*Subject: **Re: [UCNeighbors] robbery at gunpoint 10:30ish aug1, 2011*
*
*
According to SW Detective Joseph Murray, the victim gave up his wallet
but decided the gun wasn't real and demanded the wallet back and then
was shot.

Murray's response to a recent post on West Philly Local and comments
has a lot of good information in it and I thought I'd share:

TheFuzz9143 Says:
July 31st, 2011 at 11:32 pm


AFB, I respect your decision to not give up your things during a
robbery. I don’t agree with it, but to each his own. You cited a
robbery from earlier this month in which a store clerk was shot in the
face even though he gave up the money that was demanded of him. If we
were going tit-for-tat I could remind you of Mustafa Shaker who was
killed in his store at Front and Girard in late May. Shaker had enough
of being a victim and started throwing cans at the robbers. One of the
guys turned and shot Shaker in the face with a shotgun as he fled the
store. Could his death have been prevented by simply giving them what
they wanted? Who knows. All I know is I will never tell a 20 year old
Penn student to take a guess on whether a gun is real or not so he can
keep his iPhone.

In 2009, the FBI states police departments around the country handled
more than 400,000 robberies. Within those numbers we can find stories
of heroes and stories of tragic, senseless loss. I recommend giving
your phone up when approached by someone with a gun. In West and
Southwest Philly, we have a damn good track record of catching
robbers. In the past few months you may have read some of the
robberies I’ve posted on Twitter. You see that the 18th district
plainclothes cops have caught a lot of these kids minutes after the
crime. Trust me, that isn’t happening throughout the city. With UPenn,
University City detail, Allied Barton security, 18th district, 16th
district, Drexel PD etc., you have a lot of people protecting you out
there. At Southwest Detectives