RE: [UC] Question about deliberations of zoning committee

[KAREN ALLEN]

I have to agree with Glenn.  I reread his original post, and unlike mine on 
this subject, where I have clearly stated that I am against this proposal, 
Glenn's post said no such thing.  He merely asked  whether there is some 
deliberative process, how it is conducted,  and whether it will be done in such 
a way that the community can observe it.  
 
I fail to see what was so "evil tounged" about it.  Unless asking to see the 
deliberations is "evil tongued".  Which makes me wonder about the deliberations.
 
I guess Glenn asked one question too many.
 
Karen Allen
 
PS: no offlist responses, please.
 
 > Date: Wed, 6 Feb 2008 19:37:27 -0500> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: 
 > UnivCity@list.purple.com> Subject: Re: [UC] Question about deliberations of 
 > zoning committee> > People don't trust community-group volunteers to handle 
 > complex issues > perfectly.> > Neither do people trust self-anointed 
 > spokespersons on unmoderated > listserves to handle complex issues 
 > perfectly.> > My advice to everyone: avoid grandiose, evil-tongued posturing 
 > in > serious community debates. It's almost always wrong. Leave room for 
 > both > sides in such a dispute to be well-meaning and reasonable. It doesn't 
 > > always work out that way, but it is true more often than it is false.> > 
 > My thought, Glenn, is that you should enter the upcoming meeting with an > 
 > open mind and a generous heart. This is always the best way to deal with > 
 > your University City neighbors. Speak well of your neighbors first.> > -- 
 > Tony West> > > > I was a little confused by Barry’s response on the topic of 
 > > > deliberations and vote of the zoning committee. I'm wondering what you > 
 > > folks think.> >> > ...> >> > Does anyone know how and when SHCA zoning 
 > conducts this deliberation > > process and vote? Should I ask Barry? 
 > Thoughts?> >> > Glenn> >> > > > You are receiving this because you are 
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Re: [UC] Question about deliberations of zoning committee

[UNIVERSITY*CITOYEN]

Anthony West wrote:
My thought, Glenn, is that you should enter the upcoming meeting with an 
open mind and a generous heart. This is always the best way to deal with 
your University City neighbors. Speak well of your neighbors first.




barry grossbach's original announcement of shca's zoning 
meeting scheduled that meeting at a venue barely big enough 
to accommodate much more than a dozen of his neighbors.


and his announcement to his neighbors concluded: "water and 
tranquilizers will be served."



thankfully neighbors understand generosity when they see it!



:-)

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Re: [UC] Question about deliberations of zoning committee

[Glenn]

- Original Message - 
From: "Anthony West" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

To: "UnivCity listserv" 
Sent: Wednesday, February 06, 2008 7:37 PM
Subject: Re: [UC] Question about deliberations of zoning committee


People don't trust community-group volunteers to handle complex issues 
perfectly.


Neither do people trust self-anointed spokespersons on unmoderated 
listserves to handle complex issues perfectly.


My advice to everyone: avoid grandiose, evil-tongued posturing in serious 
community debates. It's almost always wrong. Leave room for both sides in 
such a dispute to be well-meaning and reasonable. It doesn't always work 
out that way, but it is true more often than it is false.


My thought, Glenn, is that you should enter the upcoming meeting with an 
open mind and a generous heart. This is always the best way to deal with 
your University City neighbors. Speak well of your neighbors first.


-- Tony West



Did you ever consider taking your own advice, Mr. President?  You are one 
funny dude Mr. Congeniality!  Or should I call you, Father West.


Man, I can't stop laughing.  Stop it Tony, no more; no more.

With an open mind and generous heart,
The wanker








I was a little confused by Barry’s response on the topic of deliberations 
and vote of the zoning committee. I'm wondering what you folks think.


...

Does anyone know how and when SHCA zoning conducts this deliberation 
process and vote? Should I ask Barry? Thoughts?


Glenn





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Re: [UC] Question about deliberations of zoning committee

[Anthony West]

People don't trust community-group volunteers to handle complex issues 
perfectly.


Neither do people trust self-anointed spokespersons on unmoderated 
listserves to handle complex issues perfectly.


My advice to everyone: avoid grandiose, evil-tongued posturing in 
serious community debates. It's almost always wrong. Leave room for both 
sides in such a dispute to be well-meaning and reasonable. It doesn't 
always work out that way, but it is true more often than it is false.


My thought, Glenn, is that you should enter the upcoming meeting with an 
open mind and a generous heart. This is always the best way to deal with 
your University City neighbors. Speak well of your neighbors first.


-- Tony West


I was a little confused by Barry’s response on the topic of 
deliberations and vote of the zoning committee. I'm wondering what you 
folks think.


...

Does anyone know how and when SHCA zoning conducts this deliberation 
process and vote? Should I ask Barry? Thoughts?


Glenn





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