Re: [UC] "Hack" filming in our neighborhood

[Paul Grossman]

The parking situation when Hack is filmed is terrible.  They don't just take
up one block, they take up 4-5 blocks with all of their trucks and vans.  It
makes it very hard to find any parking at all.  I noticed on one occasion a
neighbor of mine left his car on the street and went out of town.  Hack did
one of their film shoots while he was gone and when he returned his car was
gone.  1st thing he assumed was that it had been stolen.  What had happened
is the city towed the car about 6 blocks away but never told anyone.  Maybe
if the neighborhood had been given ample warning this would never have
happened.  I can understand if they want to do a shoot that they use one or
two blocks but to block off 4 or 5 blocks at a time for a few days when they
are only filming on one block just doesn't make sense to me.  Do the actors
really need 5 trailers?

-Paul Grossman
4625 Pine

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From: "Brian Siano" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Thursday, August 28, 2003 3:44 PM
Subject: [UC] "Hack" filming in our neighborhood


> About two weeks ago, I was talking with a friend, and he complained a bit
> about the parking situation when _Hack_ films in the neighborhood. I sorta
> of made conciliatory noises (I don't own a car, and I like the idea that
my
> neighborhood's such a great location), but he complained about how nobody
> seemed to have _asked_ anyone about the production coming into the
> neighborhood. Ive since spoken to several people who live on blocks where
> filming's happened, and I heard the same story; it's as if someone had
> decided that the "filming next day" signs were all the warning the
> neighborhood needed.
>
> Production companies aren't usually that callous, and there's the city's
> film production office to deal with, so it's my guess that the producers
of
> _Hack_ must have spoken to _someone_ about filming in our neighborhood.
> Whoever or whatever that was, they didn't seem to have notified anybody
> about the way _Hack_'s production would affect our neighborhood.
>
> Now I'm watching the students return, and there's the more-than-usual glut
> of cars along our streets, and I'm wondering if any local production in
the
> fall's going to create even _more_ problems. And frankly, I'd rather not
> have _Hack_ move into some other place for filming; like I said, it's
> another reason to be proud of the neighborhood.
>
> So I'd like to throw out a general, open-question thing to this list. Has
> there been any kind of open community discussion about this? Has there
been
> any attempt to develop methods for handling the parking situation? Has
> production helped out local economy in any big way (i.e., does the crew
> ever eat food that's not catered?) Has anyone experienced any impact-- 
> good, bad, whatever-- as a result of the production?
>
>
>
> 
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Re: [UC] "Hack" filming in our neighborhood

[Monique . M . Harvey]

I think the benefits to the neighborhood economy are negligible.  Like you
said, it seems they always cater their foods in, and I doubt seriously
whether they have rented apartments to stay in our humble neighborhood.
Shopping (clothes, etc) is probably not in our neighborhood either.

It hasn't bothered me as far as parking and driving, so far, because I live
at 49th and Cedar, and I haven't seen them over here yet.  But twice,
during the period when the trolley was being diverted because of work in
the tunnel, it created a traffic mess leading up to and around 42nd and
Baltimore where the trolley need to turn.

No, I don't think I mind them here.  However, I am not impressed by actors
and there prescence doesn't exactly thrill me either.

As far as whether the neighborhood groups were ever asked, I do not know,
but certainly, no one ever asked ME whether it was okay to film here.


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Re: [UC] "Hack" filming in our neighborhood

[Naomi]

Title: Re: [UC] "Hack" filming in our neighborhood



I don't remember any discussion or attempted communication but I did just get a letter (actually, a 1/2 page xeroxed standard form) crumpled in my front door (at 4400 Baltimore) informing me that certain locations (including the 4400 Block of Larchwood and areas near Clark Park) would be off limits for parking effective Sept 1 with no end date anywhere on the form. 

Can they do that? Just take over blocks of parking? Is this generating revenue for the area businesses? Is the community getting anything from this? We haven't seen them in the White Dog since they've been here.

Naomi


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From: Brian Siano <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: Brian Siano <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Thu, 28 Aug 2003 15:44:35 -0400
To: "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: [UC] "Hack" filming in our neighborhood


About two weeks ago, I was talking with a friend, and he complained a bit 
about the parking situation when _Hack_ films in the neighborhood. I sorta 
of made conciliatory noises (I don't own a car, and I like the idea that my 
neighborhood's such a great location), but he complained about how nobody 
seemed to have _asked_ anyone about the production coming into the 
neighborhood. Ive since spoken to several people who live on blocks where 
filming's happened, and I heard the same story; it's as if someone had 
decided that the "filming next day" signs were all the warning the 
neighborhood needed.

Production companies aren't usually that callous, and there's the city's 
film production office to deal with, so it's my guess that the producers of 
_Hack_ must have spoken to _someone_ about filming in our neighborhood. 
Whoever or whatever that was, they didn't seem to have notified anybody 
about the way _Hack_'s production would affect our neighborhood.

Now I'm watching the students return, and there's the more-than-usual glut 
of cars along our streets, and I'm wondering if any local production in the 
fall's going to create even _more_ problems. And frankly, I'd rather not 
have _Hack_ move into some other place for filming; like I said, it's 
another reason to be proud of the neighborhood.

So I'd like to throw out a general, open-question thing to this list. Has 
there been any kind of open community discussion about this? Has there been 
any attempt to develop methods for handling the parking situation? Has 
production helped out local economy in any big way (i.e., does the crew 
ever eat food that's not catered?) Has anyone experienced any impact-- 
good, bad, whatever-- as a result of the production?

 


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Re: [UC] "Hack" filming in our neighborhood

[Jeff Abrahamson]

One long block parks about 30 cars if there are no driveway cuts. A
short block parks about 15. So they are taking maybe 135 spaces.

Returning students take far more spaces than this all the time, every
day, nine months a year. We enjoy the extra space every summer and get
used to its absence in the winter.

Why is filming so different? Both have associated hassles and both
have economic benefits.

If no one were filming here, I'd wager someone would start a thread
about how someone should film, how we could market ourselves so
someone would. ;-)

It's nice to be popular, isn't it? Complaining about what a drag it is
to be popular is a delicate thing.

-Jeff



On Thu, Aug 28, 2003 at 04:00:49PM -0400, Paul Grossman wrote:
>   [68 lines, 570 words, 3236 characters]  Top characters: eotanish
> 
> The parking situation when Hack is filmed is terrible.  They don't just take
> up one block, they take up 4-5 blocks with all of their trucks and vans.  It
> makes it very hard to find any parking at all.  I noticed on one occasion a
> neighbor of mine left his car on the street and went out of town.  Hack did
> one of their film shoots while he was gone and when he returned his car was
> gone.  1st thing he assumed was that it had been stolen.  What had happened
> is the city towed the car about 6 blocks away but never told anyone.  Maybe
> if the neighborhood had been given ample warning this would never have
> happened.  I can understand if they want to do a shoot that they use one or
> two blocks but to block off 4 or 5 blocks at a time for a few days when they
> are only filming on one block just doesn't make sense to me.  Do the actors
> really need 5 trailers?
> 
> -Paul Grossman
> 4625 Pine
> 
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Brian Siano" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Thursday, August 28, 2003 3:44 PM
> Subject: [UC] "Hack" filming in our neighborhood
> 
> 
> > About two weeks ago, I was talking with a friend, and he complained a bit
> > about the parking situation when _Hack_ films in the neighborhood. I sorta
> > of made conciliatory noises (I don't own a car, and I like the idea that
> my
> > neighborhood's such a great location), but he complained about how nobody
> > seemed to have _asked_ anyone about the production coming into the
> > neighborhood. Ive since spoken to several people who live on blocks where
> > filming's happened, and I heard the same story; it's as if someone had
> > decided that the "filming next day" signs were all the warning the
> > neighborhood needed.
> >
> > Production companies aren't usually that callous, and there's the city's
> > film production office to deal with, so it's my guess that the producers
> of
> > _Hack_ must have spoken to _someone_ about filming in our neighborhood.
> > Whoever or whatever that was, they didn't seem to have notified anybody
> > about the way _Hack_'s production would affect our neighborhood.
> >
> > Now I'm watching the students return, and there's the more-than-usual glut
> > of cars along our streets, and I'm wondering if any local production in
> the
> > fall's going to create even _more_ problems. And frankly, I'd rather not
> > have _Hack_ move into some other place for filming; like I said, it's
> > another reason to be proud of the neighborhood.
> >
> > So I'd like to throw out a general, open-question thing to this list. Has
> > there been any kind of open community discussion about this? Has there
> been
> > any attempt to develop methods for handling the parking situation? Has
> > production helped out local economy in any big way (i.e., does the crew
> > ever eat food that's not catered?) Has anyone experienced any impact-- 
> > good, bad, whatever-- as a result of the production?
> >
> >
> >
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RE: [UC] "Hack" filming in our neighborhood

[Tanya Washington]

I suggest those who have complaints about the effects of the production
should contact the city's film office.  I don't have a car, so I'm not
personally affected.  I did watch a film shoot on Larchwood awhile back
which was interesting for awhile.  Not to defend the spacehogging of the
trucks, but the production crew does has a lot of equipment that they
set out.  A few weeks ago, the production left a notice at my apartment
building on the 4400 block of Osage asking for an apartment to use for
shooting.  I was tempted, having heard through the grapevine about the
compensation, but felt the potential disruption to my fellow tenants and
other neighbors outweighed that attraction.

Tanya Washington

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I think the benefits to the neighborhood economy are negligible.  Like
you
said, it seems they always cater their foods in, and I doubt seriously
whether they have rented apartments to stay in our humble neighborhood.
Shopping (clothes, etc) is probably not in our neighborhood either.

It hasn't bothered me as far as parking and driving, so far, because I
live
at 49th and Cedar, and I haven't seen them over here yet.  But twice,
during the period when the trolley was being diverted because of work in
the tunnel, it created a traffic mess leading up to and around 42nd and
Baltimore where the trolley need to turn.

No, I don't think I mind them here.  However, I am not impressed by
actors
and there prescence doesn't exactly thrill me either.

As far as whether the neighborhood groups were ever asked, I do not
know,
but certainly, no one ever asked ME whether it was okay to film here.


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Re: [UC] "Hack" filming in our neighborhood

[Wilma de Soto]

Title: Re: [UC] "Hack" filming in our neighborhood



Apparently, they can do that.

There have been a few times this summer where those trailers have been parked on my street (400 S. 45th ) and I have had to ask neighbors what was going on.  Also, I know of no official communication to neighborhood residents about the shoots here.

I just got my very first notice in my door yesterday, that they will be filming again on September 2nd.  I just got off the phone with the Location’s Office because I am expecting an important delivery that day and wanted to know if the shoot would interfere with that.

They were very genial and said they would notify their people of the delivery and attempt to work around it.  They gave me the name of somebody on the shoot to contact if I run into any problems.  We’ll see...

Luckily for me I have off-street parking, but I can imagine the hassle involved for those who do not.

Wilma de Soto


On 8/28/03 4:24 PM, "Naomi" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

I don't remember any discussion or attempted communication but I did just get a letter (actually, a 1/2 page xeroxed standard form) crumpled in my front door (at 4400 Baltimore) informing me that certain locations (including the 4400 Block of Larchwood and areas near Clark Park) would be off limits for parking effective Sept 1 with no end date anywhere on the form. 

Can they do that? Just take over blocks of parking? Is this generating revenue for the area businesses? Is the community getting anything from this? We haven't seen them in the White Dog since they've been here.

Naomi


White Dog Cafe   
3420 Sansom St, Philadelphia, PA 19104 
http://www.whitedog.com  
(215) 386-9224 x105    

The Black Cat Gift Shop
3426 Sansom St, Philadelphia, PA 19104
http://www.blackcatshop.com

From: Brian Siano <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: Brian Siano <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Thu, 28 Aug 2003 15:44:35 -0400
To: "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: [UC] "Hack" filming in our neighborhood


About two weeks ago, I was talking with a friend, and he complained a bit 
about the parking situation when _Hack_ films in the neighborhood. I sorta 
of made conciliatory noises (I don't own a car, and I like the idea that my 
neighborhood's such a great location), but he complained about how nobody 
seemed to have _asked_ anyone about the production coming into the 
neighborhood. Ive since spoken to several people who live on blocks where 
filming's happened, and I heard the same story; it's as if someone had 
decided that the "filming next day" signs were all the warning the 
neighborhood needed.

Production companies aren't usually that callous, and there's the city's 
film production office to deal with, so it's my guess that the producers of 
_Hack_ must have spoken to _someone_ about filming in our neighborhood. 
Whoever or whatever that was, they didn't seem to have notified anybody 
about the way _Hack_'s production would affect our neighborhood.

Now I'm watching the students return, and there's the more-than-usual glut 
of cars along our streets, and I'm wondering if any local production in the 
fall's going to create even _more_ problems. And frankly, I'd rather not 
have _Hack_ move into some other place for filming; like I said, it's 
another reason to be proud of the neighborhood.

So I'd like to throw out a general, open-question thing to this list. Has 
there been any kind of open community discussion about this? Has there been 
any attempt to develop methods for handling the parking situation? Has 
production helped out local economy in any big way (i.e., does the crew 
ever eat food that's not catered?) Has anyone experienced any impact-- 
good, bad, whatever-- as a result of the production?




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Re: [UC] "Hack" filming in our neighborhood

[Genevieve Delaney]

I’ve only recently moved to the neighborhood and so far my block has been Hack-free, but I wanted to share my prior experience with "Hack".  

Last year in Center City my car and those of my neighbors were ticketed and towed twice due to filming.  Both times there were no notices posted in advance to advise that they would be in the neighborhood and the “no parking” signs were only posted the day of filming.  After the second time this happened, I called the Greater Philadelphia Film Office and spoke to Joan Gerstel, the Production Coordinator, who was actually quite helpful.  She promptly tracked down where our cars had been relocated to and told me to send her our tickets and she would have them cancelled, which she did.  For what it was worth, we also copied PPA and Councilman DiCicco on our letter to Gerstel, but come to think of it we never got a response from either of them.  Then I forgot all about Hack until I started seeing the flyers for filming around Clark Park.

So, the Greater Philadelphia Film Office should be able to answer some of your 
questions and certainly any problems encountered due to the filming should be brought 
to their attention as well.
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From: Brian Siano <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Thu, 28 Aug 2003 15:44:35 -0400
To: "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: [UC] "Hack" filming in our neighborhood
About two weeks ago, I was talking with a friend, and he complained a bit 
about the parking situation when _Hack_ films in the neighborhood. I sorta 
of made conciliatory noises (I don't own a car, and I like the idea that my 
neighborhood's such a great location), but he complained about how nobody 
seemed to have _asked_ anyone about the production coming into the 
neighborhood. Ive since spoken to several people who live on blocks where 
filming's happened, and I heard the same story; it's as if someone had 
decided that the "filming next day" signs were all the warning the 
neighborhood needed.

Production companies aren't usually that callous, and there's the city's 
film production office to deal with, so it's my guess that the producers of 
_Hack_ must have spoken to _someone_ about filming in our neighborhood. 
Whoever or whatever that was, they didn't seem to have notified anybody 
about the way _Hack_'s production would affect our neighborhood.

Now I'm watching the students return, and there's the more-than-usual glut 
of cars along our streets, and I'm wondering if any local production in the 
fall's going to create even _more_ problems. And frankly, I'd rather not 
have _Hack_ move into some other place for filming; like I said, it's 
another reason to be proud of the neighborhood.

So I'd like to throw out a general, open-question thing to this list. Has 
there been any kind of open community discussion about this? Has there been 
any attempt to develop methods for handling the parking situation? Has 
production helped out local economy in any big way (i.e., does the crew 
ever eat food that's not catered?) Has anyone experienced any impact-- 
good, bad, whatever-- as a result of the production?

 


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Re: [UC] "Hack" filming in our neighborhood

[Mark Krull]

 It must be a hassle but I suppose its bringing in income and its says
that
you live in a nice clean block. 
-Mark

Wilma de Soto wrote:

  Re: [UC] "Hack" filming in our neighborhood
  Apparently, they can do that.
  
There have been a few times this summer where those trailers have been
parked on my street (400 S. 45th ) and I have had to ask neighbors what
was going on.  Also, I know of no official communication to
neighborhood residents about the shoots here.
  
I just got my very first notice in my door yesterday, that they will be
filming again on September 2nd.  I just got off the phone with the
Location’s Office because I am expecting an important delivery that day
and wanted to know if the shoot would interfere with that.
  
They were very genial and said they would notify their people of the
delivery and attempt to work around it.  They gave me the name of
somebody on the shoot to contact if I run into any problems.  We’ll
see...
  
Luckily for me I have off-street parking, but I can imagine the hassle
involved for those who do not.
  
Wilma de Soto
  
  
On 8/28/03 4:24 PM, "Naomi" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
  
  
  I don't remember any discussion or
attempted communication but I did just get a letter (actually, a 1/2
page xeroxed standard form) crumpled in my front door (at 4400
Baltimore) informing me that certain locations (including the 4400
Block of Larchwood and areas near Clark Park) would be off limits for
parking effective Sept 1 with no end date anywhere on the form. 

Can they do that? Just take over blocks of parking? Is this generating
revenue for the area businesses? Is the community getting anything from
this? We haven't seen them in the White Dog since they've been here.

Naomi


White Dog Cafe   
3420 Sansom St, Philadelphia, PA 19104 
http://www.whitedog.com  
(215) 386-9224 x105    

The Black Cat Gift Shop
3426 Sansom St, Philadelphia, PA 19104
http://www.blackcatshop.com


From: Brian Siano
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
  Reply-To: Brian Siano <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
  Date: Thu, 28 Aug 2003 15:44:35 -0400
  To: "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
  Subject: [UC] "Hack" filming in our neighborhood
  
  
  About two weeks ago, I was talking
with a friend, and he complained a bit 
about the parking situation when _Hack_ films in the neighborhood. I
sorta 
of made conciliatory noises (I don't own a car, and I like the idea
that my 
neighborhood's such a great location), but he complained about how
nobody 
seemed to have _asked_ anyone about the production coming into the 
neighborhood. Ive since spoken to several people who live on blocks
where 
filming's happened, and I heard the same story; it's as if someone had 
decided that the "filming next day" signs were all the warning the 
neighborhood needed.
  
Production companies aren't usually that callous, and there's the
city's 
film production office to deal with, so it's my guess that the
producers of 
_Hack_ must have spoken to _someone_ about filming in our neighborhood.
  
Whoever or whatever that was, they didn't seem to have notified anybody
  
about the way _Hack_'s production would affect our neighborhood.
  
Now I'm watching the students return, and there's the more-than-usual
glut 
of cars along our streets, and I'm wondering if any local production in
the 
fall's going to create even _more_ problems. And frankly, I'd rather
not 
have _Hack_ move into some other place for filming; like I said, it's 
another reason to be proud of the neighborhood.
  
So I'd like to throw out a general, open-question thing to this list.
Has 
there been any kind of open community discussion about this? Has there
been 
any attempt to develop methods for handling the parking situation? Has 
production helped out local economy in any big way (i.e., does the crew
  
ever eat food that's not catered?) Has anyone experienced any impact-- 
good, bad, whatever-- as a result of the production?
  
  
  

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Re: [UC] "Hack" filming in our neighborhood

[Brian Siano]

On Thu, 28 Aug 2003 16:20:13 -0400, Jeff Abrahamson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:

One long block parks about 30 cars if there are no driveway cuts. A
short block parks about 15. So they are taking maybe 135 spaces.
Returning students take far more spaces than this all the time, every
day, nine months a year. We enjoy the extra space every summer and get
used to its absence in the winter.
Why is filming so different? Both have associated hassles and both
have economic benefits.
If no one were filming here, I'd wager someone would start a thread
about how someone should film, how we could market ourselves so
someone would. ;-)
It's nice to be popular, isn't it? Complaining about what a drag it is
to be popular is a delicate thing.
I think you're missing the point, Jeff. You can't draw an analogy to the 
flood of students' cars because we're already well aware of that problem. 
It happens every year, and while it's unpleasant for a lot of people, it's 
not something that's dropped out of the sky onto our neighborhood. And 
although we've had some movie productions in our area, the production of 
_Hack_ is semi-continual; it's going to keep happening, and not always in 
the same place. The two issues have some similarities, but there are 
profound differences.

Judging from the responses I've seen so far, it appears that there was no 
effort to notify the neighborhood that we'd _become_ this popular. Thus, 
there was no community input on how to handle the logistics of the filming-- 
to develop some manageable scheme for handling parked cars, for example, 
so we can have the production and minimize its impact on our lives. Did the 
producers meet with community representatives? Were these issues discussed? 


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Re: [UC] "Hack" filming in our neighborhood

[Jeff Abrahamson]

On Thu, Aug 28, 2003 at 06:14:19PM -0400, Brian Siano wrote:
> I think you're missing the point, Jeff.

Maybe.

I'm hearing people say, "We are inconvenienced because it is hard to
park. But we don't see much economic benefit to this."

I would like to put this in context. The inconvenience from filming
hack means that several days a month parking is tight. Parking being
tight means some people (about 135, it seems) will spend a bit of
extra time parking and have to walk a few extra blocks. This is
inconvenient, but not much worse than that.

Where are the benefits? They don't eat at White Dog, maybe not at Rx,
Marigolds, or Fiesta, either. But they are spending money, a lot of it
by University City mercantile standards. That money is going
somewhere. The caterers come from somewhere, and they buy food and pay
staff. These people stay somewhere, probably in hotels. The hotels
generate revenue (that is then taxed) and pay people. They are using
power (electricity, gasoline), which they purchase. They are paying
some people for use of private property, although the details are
likely intentionally obscured.

These are very real ways in which money is flowing into our city and
our region. Exactly how much flows into UC? I don't know, but is that
our primary criterion? Is the inconvenience not worth it if it only
improves the lot of some people in Northern Liberties and Point
Breeze? Or in Center City?

Meanwhile, the reason the film office exists is because some people
believe that a city appearing in film benefits from that exposure from
increased publicity to the city and the region. It encourages people
to want to live here, for example. I have not researched this, but I
suspect these claims are well founded.

We could make an argument that the particular goods and services being
purchased have a low residual impact on the local economy. (For every
dollar spent, how much stays local? It's a much higher fraction for
restaurant food, for example, than for gasoline.) But no one has made
that argument, and it is a hard argument to make. It requires
extensive research in general.


> Judging from the responses I've seen so far, it appears that there
> was no effort to notify the neighborhood that we'd _become_ this
> popular. Thus, there was no community input on how to handle the
> logistics of the filming-- to develop some manageable scheme for
> handling parked cars, for example, so we can have the production and
> minimize its impact on our lives. Did the producers meet with
> community representatives? Were these issues discussed?

I am with you all the way when it concerns government action or the
actions of large entities who are proposing to alter the built
environment of our neighborhood.

But I disagree that every time someone wants to do business or conduct
some affair that they should be required to hold community
meetings. What would be the threshold of concern? Over a certain
dollar amount invested? But invested in what? How would you measure
it? Should you need to hold a public meeting to have a block party?
You inconvenience neighboring blocks.

Imagine you decide to get married in a UC church and invite a few
hundred guests (who will park their cars for the day). You cater a
nice long lunch for everyone. (You're into five figures here, but this
happens often enough for such events.) You exceed the monetary
threshold. You now have to hold public meetings about your upcoming
wedding.

I know, a wedding is different, but my point is that I don't think we
are thinking through very well this proposed obligation to consult the
community. We don't have a right to be consulted on everything.

-- 
 Jeff

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Re: [UC] "Hack" filming in our neighborhood

[Wilma de Soto]

Hi Jeff!

Okay.  I admit it; I am a rube.

I have never lived where a television series has been filmed before.  For
that reason and that alone,  I would have liked some advanced briefing on
the protocol applicable to such an event, so I would at least know how to
conduct myself.

May I sit outside or not?  Are we allowed to watch?  In the event someone
you know car gets towed while they are away, where would it most likely be?

Alternate "Hack" routes for gaining access to your property on shooting
days.  Perhaps even a tentative schedule of shoots for those in repeatedly
affected areas.

What do you do if you are coming from the trolley through a scene being shot
with "regular people" who are really actors, but who look like everyday
folks and one of the actors (dressed as a Philadelphia cop) tells you to go
ahead through the scene only to be yanked by the director who tells you to
stop?  (Actual incident involving my husband.)

It would make it a bit easier for us unsophisticated types like me so I
could at least get out of the way.

Regards,

Wilma de Soto


On 8/28/03 6:50 PM, "Jeff Abrahamson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> On Thu, Aug 28, 2003 at 06:14:19PM -0400, Brian Siano wrote:
>> I think you're missing the point, Jeff.
> 
> Maybe.
> 
> I'm hearing people say, "We are inconvenienced because it is hard to
> park. But we don't see much economic benefit to this."
> 
> I would like to put this in context. The inconvenience from filming
> hack means that several days a month parking is tight. Parking being
> tight means some people (about 135, it seems) will spend a bit of
> extra time parking and have to walk a few extra blocks. This is
> inconvenient, but not much worse than that.
> 
> Where are the benefits? They don't eat at White Dog, maybe not at Rx,
> Marigolds, or Fiesta, either. But they are spending money, a lot of it
> by University City mercantile standards. That money is going
> somewhere. The caterers come from somewhere, and they buy food and pay
> staff. These people stay somewhere, probably in hotels. The hotels
> generate revenue (that is then taxed) and pay people. They are using
> power (electricity, gasoline), which they purchase. They are paying
> some people for use of private property, although the details are
> likely intentionally obscured.
> 
> These are very real ways in which money is flowing into our city and
> our region. Exactly how much flows into UC? I don't know, but is that
> our primary criterion? Is the inconvenience not worth it if it only
> improves the lot of some people in Northern Liberties and Point
> Breeze? Or in Center City?
> 
> Meanwhile, the reason the film office exists is because some people
> believe that a city appearing in film benefits from that exposure from
> increased publicity to the city and the region. It encourages people
> to want to live here, for example. I have not researched this, but I
> suspect these claims are well founded.
> 
> We could make an argument that the particular goods and services being
> purchased have a low residual impact on the local economy. (For every
> dollar spent, how much stays local? It's a much higher fraction for
> restaurant food, for example, than for gasoline.) But no one has made
> that argument, and it is a hard argument to make. It requires
> extensive research in general.
> 
> 
>> Judging from the responses I've seen so far, it appears that there
>> was no effort to notify the neighborhood that we'd _become_ this
>> popular. Thus, there was no community input on how to handle the
>> logistics of the filming-- to develop some manageable scheme for
>> handling parked cars, for example, so we can have the production and
>> minimize its impact on our lives. Did the producers meet with
>> community representatives? Were these issues discussed?
> 
> I am with you all the way when it concerns government action or the
> actions of large entities who are proposing to alter the built
> environment of our neighborhood.
> 
> But I disagree that every time someone wants to do business or conduct
> some affair that they should be required to hold community
> meetings. What would be the threshold of concern? Over a certain
> dollar amount invested? But invested in what? How would you measure
> it? Should you need to hold a public meeting to have a block party?
> You inconvenience neighboring blocks.
> 
> Imagine you decide to get married in a UC church and invite a few
> hundred guests (who will park their cars for the day). You cater a
> nice long lunch for everyone. (You're into five figures here, but this
> happens often enough for such events.) You exceed the monetary
> threshold. You now have to hold public meetings about your upcoming
> wedding.
> 
> I know, a wedding is different, but my point is that I don't think we
> are thinking through very well this proposed obligation to consult the
> community. We don't have a right to be consulted on everything.


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Re: [UC] "Hack" filming in our neighborhood

[Brian Siano]

On Thu, 28 Aug 2003 18:50:51 -0400, Jeff Abrahamson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:

On Thu, Aug 28, 2003 at 06:14:19PM -0400, Brian Siano wrote:
I think you're missing the point, Jeff.
Maybe.

I'm hearing people say, "We are inconvenienced because it is hard to
park. But we don't see much economic benefit to this."
I would like to put this in context. The inconvenience from filming
hack means that several days a month parking is tight. Parking being
tight means some people (about 135, it seems) will spend a bit of
extra time parking and have to walk a few extra blocks. This is
inconvenient, but not much worse than that.
But that's not the issue here, Jeff. Obviously, the impact of _Hack's_ 
location shooting affects us all in different ways. And if that _was_ the 
issue, we can niggle back and forth about the degree of inconvenience. (I 
also don't think it helps to trivialize this as a matter of people 
complaining about inconveniences.) The issue here is whether the 
neighborhood had been adequately informed and consulted about this impact. 
What _I'm_ hearing people say is "No, we weren't told about this until the 
police signs came up on our block." That's not a good indication.

These are very real ways in which money is flowing into our city and
our region. Exactly how much flows into UC? I don't know, but is that
our primary criterion? Is the inconvenience not worth it if it only
improves the lot of some people in Northern Liberties and Point
Breeze? Or in Center City?
I have no doubt that money's come into the city because of the production, 
and it's even likely that money has arrived in our local region. But, as I 
said before, that is _not_ the issue that was raised.

I am with you all the way when it concerns government action or the
actions of large entities who are proposing to alter the built
environment of our neighborhood.
But I disagree that every time someone wants to do business or conduct
some affair that they should be required to hold community
meetings. What would be the threshold of concern? Over a certain
dollar amount invested? But invested in what? How would you measure
it? Should you need to hold a public meeting to have a block party?
You inconvenience neighboring blocks.
I find these points as faulty as your earlier analogy to student parking. 
We're not talking about a minor business transaction, or every "affair" 
that occurs. We're talking about a large, logistic operation which demands 
that dozens of residents make substantial adjustments to their daily lives. 
(Again, I'm disappointed at seeing this tendency to minimize or dismiss the 
complaints that have been posted here.)

The odd thing about Jeff's argument is that television and film productions 
understand that they have this kind of impact on neighborhoods. That's why 
they usually network with local police, film production offices, and local 
community groups. In our neighborhood, however, the communications broke 
down somewhere between the production company and the rest of us. (It's 
quite a bit like the debacle with McDonalds up on Market Street. McD's 
tried to work with community leaders, but somehow, the people in the 
immediate area weren't brought into the discussion. Net result: a _lot_ of 
argument, coughing, ill will, and court costs.)

I know, a wedding is different, but my point is that I don't think we
are thinking through very well this proposed obligation to consult the
community. We don't have a right to be consulted on everything.
If I'm following Jeff's arguments correctly, he is saying that a) the city 
is benefitting, so the neighborhood benefits indirectly, b) people are 
complaining too much about being "inconvenienced," and c) they have no 
right to ask for consultation on the matter. 


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RE: [UC] "Hack" filming in our neighborhood

[Mayer, Ann]

To the list:

I found it annoying.  The Hack crew came on my block about 4:50 AM to
park huge vans and trailers with LOUDLY squeaking breaks that squeaked
over and over again at extremely high shrieking
Pitches as they inched down the hill between 44th and 43rd on Pine. It
was
NOT a pleasant way to wake up during a week when I had been working hard
and
Staying up late. After the huge vans and trailers parked, the crew made
so much noise that I could not get back to sleep.  I moved to a couch in
the
Back of the house, but the odd noises were sufficiently disturbing that
I
Could not sleep there, either.  The result was that I got less than 4
hours
Of sleep before a demanding work day.  I was frazzled.

When I came home from work, they were still there, still very noisy. No
Chance of a nap to recover a bit from my sleep deficit.  And
They had brilliant spotlights on that blazed through my windows once it
grew dark.  When they finally left -- around 10:40 PM if I recall, I
could at last get some respite from the noise and glaring lights.  But,
it was a long
And unpleasant day.

I like the idea of University City being treated as an interesting
location, and this kind of disruption is tolerable once in a while.  If
it were more
Than a rare occurrence, it would definitely fit in the nuisance
category!

Ann Mayer
4312 Pine




-Original Message-
From: Wilma de Soto [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, August 28, 2003 7:03 PM
To: Jeff Abrahamson; UnivCity listserv
Subject: Re: [UC] "Hack" filming in our neighborhood

Hi Jeff!

Okay.  I admit it; I am a rube.

I have never lived where a television series has been filmed before.
For
that reason and that alone,  I would have liked some advanced briefing
on
the protocol applicable to such an event, so I would at least know how
to
conduct myself.

May I sit outside or not?  Are we allowed to watch?  In the event
someone
you know car gets towed while they are away, where would it most likely
be?

Alternate "Hack" routes for gaining access to your property on shooting
days.  Perhaps even a tentative schedule of shoots for those in
repeatedly
affected areas.

What do you do if you are coming from the trolley through a scene being
shot
with "regular people" who are really actors, but who look like everyday
folks and one of the actors (dressed as a Philadelphia cop) tells you to
go
ahead through the scene only to be yanked by the director who tells you
to
stop?  (Actual incident involving my husband.)

It would make it a bit easier for us unsophisticated types like me so I
could at least get out of the way.

Regards,

Wilma de Soto


On 8/28/03 6:50 PM, "Jeff Abrahamson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> On Thu, Aug 28, 2003 at 06:14:19PM -0400, Brian Siano wrote:
>> I think you're missing the point, Jeff.
> 
> Maybe.
> 
> I'm hearing people say, "We are inconvenienced because it is hard to
> park. But we don't see much economic benefit to this."
> 
> I would like to put this in context. The inconvenience from filming
> hack means that several days a month parking is tight. Parking being
> tight means some people (about 135, it seems) will spend a bit of
> extra time parking and have to walk a few extra blocks. This is
> inconvenient, but not much worse than that.
> 
> Where are the benefits? They don't eat at White Dog, maybe not at Rx,
> Marigolds, or Fiesta, either. But they are spending money, a lot of it
> by University City mercantile standards. That money is going
> somewhere. The caterers come from somewhere, and they buy food and pay
> staff. These people stay somewhere, probably in hotels. The hotels
> generate revenue (that is then taxed) and pay people. They are using
> power (electricity, gasoline), which they purchase. They are paying
> some people for use of private property, although the details are
> likely intentionally obscured.
> 
> These are very real ways in which money is flowing into our city and
> our region. Exactly how much flows into UC? I don't know, but is that
> our primary criterion? Is the inconvenience not worth it if it only
> improves the lot of some people in Northern Liberties and Point
> Breeze? Or in Center City?
> 
> Meanwhile, the reason the film office exists is because some people
> believe that a city appearing in film benefits from that exposure from
> increased publicity to the city and the region. It encourages people
> to want to live here, for example. I have not researched this, but I
> suspect these claims are well founded.
> 
> We could make an argument that the particular goods and services being
> purchased have a low residual impact on the local economy. (For every
> dollar spent, how much stays local? It's a much higher fraction for
> restaurant food, for example, than for gasoline.) But no one has

Re: [UC] "Hack" filming in our neighborhood

[R a y m o n d R o r k e]

Mark Krull wrote:

   It must be a hassle but I suppose its bringing in income and its says 
that you live in a nice clean block.


(it doesn't necessarily say you live on a nice clean block. 
I know of one location on a nice residential block that was 
depicted as a crack house.)

not to change the subject, but has anyone else noticed how 
exceptionally well the crape myrtles are doing this year?
















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Re: [UC] "Hack" filming in our neighborhood

[HarvestMoon3]

On the 500 block of S. 45th Street we've been informed of Hack filming well
in advance.  We've been asked if we have any "problems" with the planned
filming. Someone went door-to-door, etc. We were informed by letter that the
production company is working with community groups to work out details and
minimize disruption (tho, I don't know first-hand if this is true).  I don't
see parking or noise disruption as being of major importance,  as it's only
occassional and I've not heard any major complaints from neighbors. ( I
didn't find the noise excessive at all)  In fact, all I  have witnessed is
neighbors enjoying the novelty of a film shoot in our very own backyard (or
front yard).  Agreeing 100% with Jeff Abrahamson, it is not possible nor
appropriate to have a town meeting on every single minor issue that arises.
UC's history of town meetings on major issues (new school, zoning overlay,
historic district, Clark Park plan, etc. ) does not inspire confidence that
such input for a film shoot would be productive.  Let's "get real".

 Must every single individual be consulted about every single issue that
arises?  If the answer is "yes" then you had better plan on quitting your
job and canceling all future vacation plans -- because you will be one very
busy dude.  Enjoy the Hack shoots for what they are -- a cool diversion in
our "village" that most people will never EVER get to experience.  If there
are serious problems with deliveries, etc., the production coordinators seem
ready to accomodate.  Is this really worth discussing?  I'd rather talk
about wealthy cabdrivers.

Neil Lifson
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From: "Jeff Abrahamson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Thursday, August 28, 2003 6:50 PM
Subject: Re: [UC] "Hack" filming in our neighborhood
neighborhood.
> Imagine you decide to get married in a UC church and invite a few
> hundred guests (who will park their cars for the day). You cater a
> nice long lunch for everyone. (You're into five figures
> I know, a wedding is different, but my point is that I don't think we
> are thinking through very well this proposed obligation to consult the
> community. We don't have a right to be consulted on everything.
>
> -- 
>  Jeff
>
>  Jeff Abrahamson  <http://www.purple.com/jeff/>
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Re: [UC] "Hack" filming in our neighborhood

[Wilma de Soto]

Dear Mr. Lifson,

Thanks for the information regarding your block's advance notice on the
filming for "Hack".

The point is in my opinion, is not that people want the company to fold its
production here.  Rather, some people felt it was thrust upon them without
notice or advice as to how to conduct themselves and/or adjust to these
events.

This past Wednesday was the first time I had ever received any notice about
any shoot although the street has been filled with trailers a few times
before.  Certainly, no letters or door-to-door contact as you stated.

I agree town meetings become very sticky wickets here.  Perhaps it is often
because rumors get started and people become riled about events that often
seem to be a "fait accompli".  By the time any meeting is scheduled,  it is
often to "calm the masses" or do damage control.

I agree with you that this is a unique experience for our neighborhood.  I
for one, I have never lived in an area where a TV series was filmed on a
regular basis.  Apparently, the "hew and cry" stems from that fact the some
affected residents were briefed and contacted (as in your case), and many
others who are affected were not.  The reason behind this happening is what
concerns many people.

Thanks for your time.

Wilma de Soto


On 8/28/03 11:14 PM, "HarvestMoon3" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> On the 500 block of S. 45th Street we've been informed of Hack filming well
> in advance.  We've been asked if we have any "problems" with the planned
> filming. Someone went door-to-door, etc. We were informed by letter that the
> production company is working with community groups to work out details and
> minimize disruption (tho, I don't know first-hand if this is true).  I don't
> see parking or noise disruption as being of major importance,  as it's only
> occassional and I've not heard any major complaints from neighbors. ( I
> didn't find the noise excessive at all)  In fact, all I  have witnessed is
> neighbors enjoying the novelty of a film shoot in our very own backyard (or
> front yard).  Agreeing 100% with Jeff Abrahamson, it is not possible nor
> appropriate to have a town meeting on every single minor issue that arises.
> UC's history of town meetings on major issues (new school, zoning overlay,
> historic district, Clark Park plan, etc. ) does not inspire confidence that
> such input for a film shoot would be productive.  Let's "get real".
> 
> Must every single individual be consulted about every single issue that
> arises?  If the answer is "yes" then you had better plan on quitting your
> job and canceling all future vacation plans -- because you will be one very
> busy dude.  Enjoy the Hack shoots for what they are -- a cool diversion in
> our "village" that most people will never EVER get to experience.  If there
> are serious problems with deliveries, etc., the production coordinators seem
> ready to accomodate.  Is this really worth discussing?  I'd rather talk
> about wealthy cabdrivers.
> 
> Neil Lifson
> - Original Message -
> From: "Jeff Abrahamson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Thursday, August 28, 2003 6:50 PM
> Subject: Re: [UC] "Hack" filming in our neighborhood
> neighborhood.
>> Imagine you decide to get married in a UC church and invite a few
>> hundred guests (who will park their cars for the day). You cater a
>> nice long lunch for everyone. (You're into five figures
>> I know, a wedding is different, but my point is that I don't think we
>> are thinking through very well this proposed obligation to consult the
>> community. We don't have a right to be consulted on everything.
>> 
>> -- 
>>  Jeff
>> 
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Re: [UC] "Hack" filming in our neighborhood

[Brian Siano]

On Fri, 29 Aug 2003 09:32:13 -0400, Wilma de Soto <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:

This past Wednesday was the first time I had ever received any notice 
about
any shoot although the street has been filled with trailers a few times
before.  Certainly, no letters or door-to-door contact as you stated.

I agree town meetings become very sticky wickets here.  Perhaps it is 
often
because rumors get started and people become riled about events that 
often
seem to be a "fait accompli".  By the time any meeting is scheduled,  it 
is
often to "calm the masses" or do damage control.
This is certainly true. The last "town meeting" this area had was over the 
Historic District proposal. This was in late April of last year, and was 
arranged by the proposal's advocates mainly because substantial opposition 
had emerged.

Obviously, nobody's knocking themselves out to _hold_ town meetings on 
_anything_, not even in advance of important issues that affect everyone. 
So it's extremely unlikely that Jeff's nightmare of continual town meetings 
would ever arise. 


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RE: [UC] "Hack" filming in our neighborhood

[Mayer, Ann]

To the list:

I am surprised about all the reports of the Hack filming team giving advance
notice to residents who would be inconvenienced by the filming.  

I NEVER received notice of ANY kind other than the usual city signs advising us 
in advance that there
was an upcoming no parking day.  I assumed that the city was planning to trim
trees or clean the curb areas.  NO ONE connected with the Hack shooting ever
came by.  Since I had no advance warning of the kind of disruption that was
in store, I would have had no way of making the alternate arrangements that
I would have needed to make had I been scheduled for a home delivery, etc.
on the day all the Hack vans and trailers were blocking my block.

Or, do they only give notice to blocks where they are actually filming? There was
no filming going on on my block; we had been effectively converted into a combo
of parking lot and studio back lot while the filming was carried out on other
blocks.  Maybe we were beneath their notice, so no courtesy in the way of 
an advance warning was extended?

AT A MINIMUM they owe us the consideration of advising us in advance about the kind
of obstructions and disruptions they will be causing and for how long, so we
at least have some opportunity to work around these problems rather than being
surprised by them when the Hack crews suddenly descend on us!

Ann Mayer
4312 Pine St.  




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Sent: Friday, August 29, 2003 9:51 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [UC] "Hack" filming in our neighborhood


On Fri, 29 Aug 2003 09:32:13 -0400, Wilma de Soto <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:

> This past Wednesday was the first time I had ever received any notice 
> about
> any shoot although the street has been filled with trailers a few times
> before.  Certainly, no letters or door-to-door contact as you stated.
>
> I agree town meetings become very sticky wickets here.  Perhaps it is 
> often
> because rumors get started and people become riled about events that 
> often
> seem to be a "fait accompli".  By the time any meeting is scheduled,  it 
> is
> often to "calm the masses" or do damage control.

This is certainly true. The last "town meeting" this area had was over the 
Historic District proposal. This was in late April of last year, and was 
arranged by the proposal's advocates mainly because substantial opposition 
had emerged.

Obviously, nobody's knocking themselves out to _hold_ town meetings on 
_anything_, not even in advance of important issues that affect everyone. 
So it's extremely unlikely that Jeff's nightmare of continual town meetings 
would ever arise. 


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Re: [UC] "Hack" filming in our neighborhood

[Charles H. Buchholtz]

A while back I met a woman who worked as an on location accountant for
a movie production company.  As she put it, movies shot on location
"hemorrhage money".  Everyone who claims to be inconvenienced by the
shoot gets paid off.  Homeless people who say, "hey, that's my usual
spot!" get paid off.  

Of course, if the neighbors don't cooperate, the production companies
may stop shooting in Philadelphia.  If nothing else, they are paying
wage tax and sales tax, so they are bringing money into the city.

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[Naomi]

Title: Re: [UC] "Hack" filming in our neighborhood 



Out of curiosity, does anyone know how much of a location fee someone in our neighborhood would receive for their place being used for a shoot? I'm sure it varies widely depending on how extensively they take over, but I'm just wondering what we're talking here.

Naomi


White Dog Cafe   
3420 Sansom St, Philadelphia, PA 19104 
http://www.whitedog.com  
(215) 386-9224 x105    

The Black Cat Gift Shop
3426 Sansom St, Philadelphia, PA 19104
http://www.blackcatshop.com

From: "Charles H. Buchholtz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Subject: Re: [UC] "Hack" filming in our neighborhood 


A while back I met a woman who worked as an on location accountant for
a movie production company.  As she put it, movies shot on location
"hemorrhage money".  Everyone who claims to be inconvenienced by the
shoot gets paid off.  Homeless people who say, "hey, that's my usual
spot!" get paid off.  

Of course, if the neighbors don't cooperate, the production companies
may stop shooting in Philadelphia.  If nothing else, they are paying
wage tax and sales tax, so they are bringing money into the city.

--- Chip









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Re: [UC] "Hack" filming in our neighborhood

[Matthew Snyder]

Charles H. Buchholtz writes:
> Of course, if the neighbors don't cooperate, the production companies
> may stop shooting in Philadelphia.  If nothing else, they are paying
> wage tax and sales tax, so they are bringing money into the city.

True, but so would, say, a casino, or a strip club.  Just because
money's coming into the city doesn't necessarily mean there's a net
positive here.  We need to get a little more out of the deal than 
we're getting.

I think in exchange for letting the Hack folks block off our streets 
and wake us up in the middle of the night, we should all get to use 
their giant bathroom trucks.  Those bathrooms are palatial, and they
assuredly have better water pressure than my lackluster shower.

--
Matthew Snyder
Philadelphia, PA



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