Re: [UC] What happened to leaf day?

[Cappy Harrison]

I think I was the only person on my block bagging leaves today.

A guy drove by in a UCD truck and gave me some plastic bags.  He said the leaf
bags might be picked up tomorrow.

--- Dan Myers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>  Our block bagged about 40 some bags this morning, why weren't they picked up
> today? Anybody know why?
> 
> Dan Myers
> 215.901.0899
> Certified Massage Practitioner
>   - Original Message - 
>   From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
>   Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
>   Sent: Saturday, December 04, 2004 5:28 PM
>   Subject: [UC] Re: Anyone have anything to add?
> 
> 
>   That interchange has to be one of the worst engineered traffic fixes I have
> ever seen. I think they should start siphoning off traffic before Baltimore
> gets to that intersection. Maybe make it one way (westbound) from 40th to
> 42nd. Make the traffic eastbound have to turn at 42nd.
> 
>   Just my two cents.
> 
> 
> 
>   In a message dated 12/4/04 5:18:49 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On an icy road even 15 mph will be hazardous, but your clever solution re
> concrete barriers is akin to destroying the village in order to save it.
> 
> 
> - Original Message -
> 
> From: William H. Magill
> 
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 
> Cc: UClist ; [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; UP
> 
> Sent: Saturday, December 04, 2004 3:58 PM
> 
> Subject: Re: Anyone have anything to add?
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On 04 Dec, 2004, at 14:06, I. Milton Karabell wrote:
> 
> > December 4, 2004
> >
> >
> > Commissioner
> > Department of Streets
> > City of Philadelphia
> > 7th Floor, MSB
> > Philadelphia, PA 19102-1676
> >
> > Dear Commissioner:
> >
> > While the myriad of construction projects continues at the
> > intersection of Baltimore, Woodland and University Avenues, it remains
> > to be seen whether the result of all this change and construction will
> > result in better traffic flow. Clearly a great deal of money was
> > involved and we should reasonably expect that an improvement will be
> > the end result.
> >
> > One thing is already clear; the intersection of Baltimore Avenue with
> > Woodland Avenue (eastbound) will be a dangerous place to be whenever
> > the road surface is the least bit slippery. The hard right turn
> > immediately followed by a hard left turn into a sharp curve to the
> > right will be a real challenge to any driver. I hope someone will be
> > compiling statistics on the accidents that will be occurring at this
> > "improved" traffic pattern.
> 
> Clearly the definition of "traffic flow" is at issue here.
> 
> Since this is a major Pedestrian area -- a residential area and a
> school zone -- the primary issue with controlling traffic flow is to
> dramatically lower the speeds which vehicles can obtain while
> transiting the area. And in the process, discourage vehicular use of
> the area.
> 
> The best method to deal with this potential problem would be to install
> significant rumble strips and speed bumps on all of the incoming lanes.
> If spaced no more than 20 feet apart, these would force drivers to slow
> down to the point where these hard left and right turns are no longer a
> problem for any driver. The new intersection can be easily navigated at
> 15 miles per hour, but not at the normal 40 which most expect to be
> doing when they try to run the lights.
> 
> Additionally, heavy concrete barriers could be installed at the
> "impact" points so that any vehicle which fails to negotiate the turns
> will be severely damaged and removed from the roadways of the city.
> 
> The resulting slow-down in overall traffic speeds will do more to
> alleviate the various traffic flow problems caused by "too many cars"
> trying to use the intersection, than virtually any other thing which
> can be done.
> 
> > Also the left turn lane from westbound Woodland Avenue into the V.A.
> > employee gate might best be replaced by a "jug handle" type turn which
> > takes the few cars that need that turn onto southbound 39th Street. In
> > fact a better solution would be a complete study of all the entrances
> > to the V.A. Facility to see how best to get cars onto their property.
> >
> > By the way, the last time I used that intersection at night, albeit a
> > few weeks ago, there were no street lights on; that would be a big
> > help too.
> >
> > Sincerely,
> >
> >
> > I. Milton Karabell
> > 913 South 48th Street
> > Philadelphia, PA 19143
> >
> > cc: University City District
> >
> T.T.F.N.
> William H. Magill
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Re: [UC] What happened to leaf day?

[DaveAxler]

Around 3 this afternoon, I observed a UCD truck at 44th & Locust, full of leaf bags. So they were out there doing some amount of pickup...

Re: [UC] What happened to leaf day?

[Jonathan Cass]

UCD was out in force on Saturday and did a tremendous job. We arrived back at 
our house after running errands to find a team of volunteers ranking leaves 
into the street. (Apparently, they had started out on the 4600 block of Hazel 
but were chased away after one was mugged, another had his bike stolen and gun 
fire broke out).

A City vacuum truck arrived and was able to pick up the leaves on one side 
before it filled up. (I had seen it arrive in the 'hood at around 9:00 while 
having coffee at the Green Line). They were not able to continue because they 
had no place to dump. John Fenton from UCD dispatchd a team of the small yellow 
vacuum trucks (at one time, four of them were working on the street) and they 
picked up the remainder of the leaves. 

During the morning when I was out and about and in the afternoon when I was 
working outside, UCD trucks and personnel were all over the place.  

It is my understanding that UCD will be out again today to pick up the bags 
piled on the corners and to do additional clean-up work.

I want to express my thanks to John Fenton and UCD for all their hard work and 
the coordination of the clearn-up effort.

I was totally impressed.



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Re: [UC] What happened to leaf day?

[Cappy Harrison]

I'm jealous.

The 4900 block of Walton Avenue didn't have any volunteers.

--- Jonathan Cass <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> UCD was out in force on Saturday and did a tremendous job. We arrived back at
> our house after running errands to find a team of volunteers ranking leaves
> into the street. (Apparently, they had started out on the 4600 block of Hazel
> but were chased away after one was mugged, another had his bike stolen and
> gun fire broke out).
> 
> A City vacuum truck arrived and was able to pick up the leaves on one side
> before it filled up. (I had seen it arrive in the 'hood at around 9:00 while
> having coffee at the Green Line). They were not able to continue because they
> had no place to dump. John Fenton from UCD dispatchd a team of the small
> yellow vacuum trucks (at one time, four of them were working on the street)
> and they picked up the remainder of the leaves. 
> 
> During the morning when I was out and about and in the afternoon when I was
> working outside, UCD trucks and personnel were all over the place.  
> 
> It is my understanding that UCD will be out again today to pick up the bags
> piled on the corners and to do additional clean-up work.
> 
> I want to express my thanks to John Fenton and UCD for all their hard work
> and the coordination of the clearn-up effort.
> 
> I was totally impressed.
> 
> 
> 
> --
> Jonathan A. Cass
> Silverman, Bernheim & Vogel
> Two Penn Center Plaza
> Suite 910
> Philadelphia, PA 19102
> Tel: 215-636-4435
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Re: [UC] What happened to leaf day?

[Andrew Diller]

I sent repeated emails to them and never got any word back. Two of us 
cleaned and bagged farragut st, and never saw anything from UCD. We 
used our own bags.

If they don't pick up the bags, they go out as trash on wed
So if there is anyone from the UCD reading this: please come by south 
farragut st.

-andy diller
On Dec 5, 2004, at 9:16 AM, Jonathan Cass wrote:
UCD was out in force on Saturday and did a tremendous job. We arrived 
back at our house after running errands to find a team of volunteers 
ranking leaves into the street. (Apparently, they had started out on 
the 4600 block of Hazel but were chased away after one was mugged, 
another had his bike stolen and gun fire broke out).

A City vacuum truck arrived and was able to pick up the leaves on one 
side before it filled up. (I had seen it arrive in the 'hood at around 
9:00 while having coffee at the Green Line). They were not able to 
continue because they had no place to dump. John Fenton from UCD 
dispatchd a team of the small yellow vacuum trucks (at one time, four 
of them were working on the street) and they picked up the remainder 
of the leaves.

During the morning when I was out and about and in the afternoon when 
I was working outside, UCD trucks and personnel were all over the 
place.

It is my understanding that UCD will be out again today to pick up the 
bags piled on the corners and to do additional clean-up work.

I want to express my thanks to John Fenton and UCD for all their hard 
work and the coordination of the clearn-up effort.

I was totally impressed.

--
Jonathan A. Cass
Silverman, Bernheim & Vogel
Two Penn Center Plaza
Suite 910
Philadelphia, PA 19102
Tel: 215-636-4435
Fax: 215-636-3999
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Re: [UC] What happened to leaf day?

[Bill Sanderson]

I've no idea, but I see UCD trucks today, Sunday, 
doing pickup,
 
Small pickup truck, though, and LOTS of 
leaves.
 

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  Dan Myers 
  
  Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  Sent: Saturday, December 04, 2004 10:40 
  PM
  Subject: [UC] What happened to leaf 
  day?
  
   Our block bagged about 40 some bags this 
  morning, why weren't they picked up today? Anybody know why?
   
  Dan Myers215.901.0899Certified Massage 
  Practitioner
  
- Original Message - 
From: 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Saturday, December 04, 2004 5:28 
PM
Subject: [UC] Re: Anyone have anything 
to add?
That interchange has to be one of the worst 
engineered traffic fixes I have ever seen. I think they should start 
siphoning off traffic before Baltimore gets to that intersection. Maybe make 
it one way (westbound) from 40th to 42nd. Make the traffic eastbound have to 
turn at 42nd.Just my two cents.In a message dated 
12/4/04 5:18:49 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
writes:
On an icy road even 15 mph will be hazardous, 
  but your clever solution re concrete barriers is akin to destroying the 
  village in order to save it.- Original Message 
  -From: 
  William H. MagillTo: 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]Cc: 
  UClist ; 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; 
  UPSent: Saturday, December 04, 2004 3:58 
  PMSubject: Re: Anyone have anything to 
  add?On 04 Dec, 2004, at 14:06, I. Milton Karabell 
  wrote:> December 4, 2004>>> 
  Commissioner> Department of Streets> City of 
  Philadelphia> 7th Floor, MSB> Philadelphia, PA 
  19102-1676>> Dear Commissioner:>> While the 
  myriad of construction projects continues at the> intersection of 
  Baltimore, Woodland and University Avenues, it remains> to be seen 
  whether the result of all this change and construction will> result 
  in better traffic flow. Clearly a great deal of money was> involved 
  and we should reasonably expect that an improvement will be> the 
  end result.>> One thing is already clear; the intersection 
  of Baltimore Avenue with> Woodland Avenue (eastbound) will be a 
  dangerous place to be whenever> the road surface is the least bit 
  slippery. The hard right turn> immediately followed by a hard left 
  turn into a sharp curve to the> right will be a real challenge to 
  any driver. I hope someone will be> compiling statistics on the 
  accidents that will be occurring at this> "improved" traffic 
  pattern.Clearly the definition of "traffic flow" is at issue 
  here.Since this is a major Pedestrian area -- a residential area 
  and aschool zone -- the primary issue with controlling traffic flow is 
  todramatically lower the speeds which vehicles can obtain 
  whiletransiting the area. And in the process, discourage vehicular use 
  ofthe area.The best method to deal with this potential problem 
  would be to installsignificant rumble strips and speed bumps on all of 
  the incoming lanes.If spaced no more than 20 feet apart, these would 
  force drivers to slowdown to the point where these hard left and right 
  turns are no longer aproblem for any driver. The new intersection can 
  be easily navigated at15 miles per hour, but not at the normal 40 
  which most expect to bedoing when they try to run the 
  lights.Additionally, heavy concrete barriers could be installed at 
  the"impact" points so that any vehicle which fails to negotiate the 
  turnswill be severely damaged and removed from the roadways of the 
  city.The resulting slow-down in overall traffic speeds will do 
  more toalleviate the various traffic flow problems caused by "too many 
  cars"trying to use the intersection, than virtually any other thing 
  whichcan be done.> Also the left turn lane from westbound 
  Woodland Avenue into the V.A.> employee gate might best be replaced 
  by a "jug handle" type turn which> takes the few cars that need 
  that turn onto southbound 39th Street. In> fact a better solution 
  would be a complete study of all the entrances> to the V.A. 
  Facility to see how best to get cars onto their property.>> 
  By the way, the last time I used that intersection at night, albeit 
  a> few weeks ago, there were no street lights on; that would be a 
  big> help too.>> Sincerely,>>> 
  I. Milton Karabell> 913 South 48th Street> Philadelphia, PA 
  19143>> cc: University City 
  District>T.T.F.N.William H. Magill[EMAIL PROTECTED][EMAIL PROTECTED][EMAIL PROTECTED][EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [UC] What happened to leaf day?

[Stephen Fisher]

It's 5:45pm and they are still going...I think Powelton Village as well
as Univ City.  I can't say I envy them for having to pick up leaves on
a Sunday night...


Bill Sanderson wrote:

  
  
  
  I've no idea, but I see UCD trucks
today, Sunday, doing pickup,
   
  Small pickup truck, though, and LOTS
of leaves.
   
  
-
Original Message - 
From:
Dan
Myers 
Cc:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent:
Saturday, December 04, 2004 10:40 PM
Subject:
[UC] What happened to leaf day?


 Our block bagged about 40 some
bags this morning, why weren't they picked up today? Anybody know why?
 
Dan Myers
215.901.0899
Certified Massage Practitioner

  -
Original Message - 
  From:
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  
  Cc:
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  
  Sent:
Saturday, December 04, 2004 5:28 PM
  Subject:
[UC] Re: Anyone have anything to add?
  
  
  That interchange has to be one
of the worst engineered traffic fixes I have ever seen. I think they
should start siphoning off traffic before Baltimore gets to that
intersection. Maybe make it one way (westbound) from 40th to 42nd. Make
the traffic eastbound have to turn at 42nd.
  
Just my two cents.
  
  
  
In a message dated 12/4/04 5:18:49 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
  
  
  
  

On an icy road even 15 mph will be hazardous, but your clever solution
re concrete barriers is akin to destroying the village in order to save
it.


- Original Message -

From:
William H. Magill

To:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Cc:
UClist ;
[EMAIL PROTECTED] ; UP

Sent: Saturday, December 04, 2004 3:58 PM

Subject: Re: Anyone have anything to add?




On 04 Dec, 2004, at 14:06, I. Milton Karabell wrote:

> December 4, 2004
>
>
> Commissioner
> Department of Streets
> City of Philadelphia
> 7th Floor, MSB
> Philadelphia, PA 19102-1676
>
> Dear Commissioner:
>
> While the myriad of construction projects continues at the
> intersection of Baltimore, Woodland and University Avenues, it
remains
> to be seen whether the result of all this change and construction
will
> result in better traffic flow. Clearly a great deal of money was
> involved and we should reasonably expect that an improvement will
be
> the end result.
>
> One thing is already clear; the intersection of Baltimore Avenue
with
> Woodland Avenue (eastbound) will be a dangerous place to be
whenever
> the road surface is the least bit slippery. The hard right turn
> immediately followed by a hard left turn into a sharp curve to the
> right will be a real challenge to any driver. I hope someone will
be
> compiling statistics on the accidents that will be occurring at
this
> "improved" traffic pattern.

Clearly the definition of "traffic flow" is at issue here.

Since this is a major Pedestrian area -- a residential area and a
school zone -- the primary issue with controlling traffic flow is to
dramatically lower the speeds which vehicles can obtain while
transiting the area. And in the process, discourage vehicular use of
the area.

The best method to deal with this potential problem would be to install
significant rumble strips and speed bumps on all of the incoming lanes.
If spaced no more than 20 feet apart, these would force drivers to slow
down to the point where these hard left and right turns are no longer a
problem for any driver. The new intersection can be easily navigated at
15 miles per hour, but not at the normal 40 which most expect to be
doing when they try to run the lights.

Additionally, heavy concrete barriers could be installed at the
"impact" points so that any vehicle which fails to negotiate the turns
will be severely damaged and removed from the roadways of the city.

The resulting slow-down in overall traffic speeds will do more to
alleviate the various traffic flow problems caused by "too many cars"
trying to use the intersection, than virtually any other thing which
can be done.

> Also the left turn lane from westbound Woodland Avenue into the
V.A.
> employee gate might best be replaced by a "jug handle" type turn
which
> takes the few cars that need that turn onto southbound 39th
Street. In
> fact a better solution would be a complete study of all the
entrances
> to the V.A. Facility to see how best to get cars onto their
property.
>
> By the way, the last time I used that intersection at night,
albeit a
> few weeks ago, there were no street lights on; that would be a big
> help too.
>
> Sincerely,
>
>
> I. Milton Karabell
> 913 South 48th Street
> Philadelphia, PA 19143
>
> cc: University City District
>
T.T.F.N.
William H. Magill
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
[EMAIL PROTECTED]





  

Re: [UC] What happened to leaf day?

[Karen Heenan]

While not a lot got done on my block (my fault, for trying to be in two 
places at once), what got put out on the corner was picked up on Saturday 
afternoon.  The UC Garden Club also scheduled a cleanup at the Locust Street 
community garden for Saturday, and John Fenton and his crew picked up a huge 
pile of leaf and trash bags from the corner of 44th & Locust.  They might 
not catch every bag on every corner, but they were out all day Saturday and 
Sunday picking up trash – which is more than you can say for the City of 
Philadelphia.  Or most of my neighbors, none of whom have ever come out for 
a block cleanup.

My two cents on the subject.
Karen

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