So, who is Committeeman7? [was: Re: [UC] Blackwell calls to save Fenton's job]

2007-06-07 Thread MLamond
Tony, thank you for this thorough and important update.   A question remains 
about the person who posted about it to our listserv.

My guess, now, is that our anonymous poster, Committeeman7, is either 
affiliated with the Councilwoman's office or has inside information from the 
Councilwoman's office.   Why doesn't the person simply identify him/her/self 
and be 
honest and open with us?   Why operate secretly?   Why didn't Jannie's office 
confirm their plans for the first Thursday meeting when Tony called, if they 
were collecting signatures and planning to ask for support?   What were they 
hiding?   Have they missed all the calls on this list for transparency and 
process?   

Melani Lamond


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Re: So, who is Committeeman7? [was: Re: [UC] Blackwell calls to save Fenton's job]

2007-06-07 Thread Jim Cummings

I Googled Committeeman7 and did not find anything.
Jim Cummings

On 6/7/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Tony, thank you for this thorough and important update.  A question remains
about the person who posted about it to our listserv.

 My guess, now, is that our anonymous poster, Committeeman7, is either
affiliated with the Councilwoman's office or has inside information from the
Councilwoman's office.  Why doesn't the person simply identify him/her/self
and be honest and open with us?  Why operate secretly?  Why didn't Jannie's
office confirm their plans for the first Thursday meeting when Tony called,
if they were collecting signatures and planning to ask for support?  What
were they hiding?  Have they missed all the calls on this list for
transparency and process?

 Melani Lamond


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Re: So, who is Committeeman7? [was: Re: [UC] Blackwell calls to save Fenton's job]

2007-06-07 Thread Anthony West
I believe the Councilwoman was sincere when she said on Tuesday she had not yet 
made up her mind whether to attend First Thursday at all. Close of session is a 
very busy time for Council Persons. So while the anonymous poster may have had 
some connection with her organization, I don't believe he was carrying out 
orders from above.

Most likely, the flow of events from Tuesday to Thursday pushed Blackwell into 
deciding to act. I know that some of the things she spoke publicly this morning 
have been on her mind for a long time.

-- Tony West
  My guess, now, is that our anonymous poster, Committeeman7, is either 
affiliated with the Councilwoman's office or has inside information from the 
Councilwoman's office.  Why doesn't the person simply identify him/her/self and 
be honest and open with us?  Why operate secretly?  Why didn't Jannie's office 
confirm their plans for the first Thursday meeting when Tony called, if they 
were collecting signatures and planning to ask for support?  What were they 
hiding?  Have they missed all the calls on this list for transparency and 
process?  

  Melani Lamond


Re: So, who is Committeeman7? [was: Re: [UC] Blackwell calls to save Fenton's job]

2007-06-07 Thread Elizabeth F Campion
I prefer attribution, but I understand why someone might not want to
expose themselves to the rampant paranoia, profligate speculation and
general nastiness that began to swirl around the 'offending' post, long
before a beginner might have twigged to list etiquette (or not) or a more
adept sender might have discovered an address oversight.
 

Many of our senders are known by insider nicknames.
Some of us include to much in our signatures, others too little, some
assume the E-address says it all.

I'm fairly fearless, but the remarks are so awful that I'd be reluctant
to admit to being the poster.


One irony, the post turned out to be accurate, and still the poster is
referred to as dishonest.


Meanwhile, among the latest gentle requests for introduction...

Cassidy wrote:
I'd say it's relevant because:
 
... So the question why did committeeman7 make the post and then leave
Glenn to fend for himself amongst the jackles? I think is relevant. And
now we discover that it was probably someone who was at the meeting or
who works for someone who was at the meeting
 
Maybe it was UCD!
In a message dated 6/7/2007 11:05:27 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:


Really?  Our little list of over 300 University City folks who care
enough about what's happening in this community to stay aboard, despite
having to endure frequently nasty exchanges and messages?  We don't
count?  We can be lied to, or spoken to anonymously by folks who refuse
to reveal their identities?

According to Tony's report, the first Thursday meeting ... asked that
UCD policies in general be made public.  

What about the Councilwoman's office's policies?  Shouldn't they be
public also?  We elect her; should her office and/or her supporters be
sending anonymous emails to the listserv?  Or was it sent by an anonymous
supporter of John Fenton?  Or somebody who just guessed about today's
meeting, and just happened to be right?  In any case, what is to be
gained by adding new layers of secrecy to neighborhood processes? 
Committeeman7 knew what was going to happen today and is probably reading
my questions on the list now.  Who is he, or she, and why is this person
afraid to identify him or herself?

... and...

My guess, now, is that our anonymous poster, Committeeman7, is either
affiliated with the Councilwoman's office or has inside information from
the Councilwoman's office.  Why doesn't the person simply identify
him/her/self and be honest and open with us?  Why operate secretly?  Why
didn't Jannie's office confirm their plans for the first Thursday meeting
when Tony called, if they were collecting signatures and planning to ask
for support?  What were they hiding?  Have they missed all the calls on
this list for transparency and process?  

Melani Lamond


Best!
Liz
 
On Thu, 7 Jun 2007 10:35:05 EDT [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Tony, thank you for this thorough and important update.  A question
remains about the person who posted about it to our listserv.

My guess, now, is that our anonymous poster, Committeeman7, is either
affiliated with the Councilwoman's office or has inside information from
the Councilwoman's office.  Why doesn't the person simply identify
him/her/self and be honest and open with us?  Why operate secretly?  Why
didn't Jannie's office confirm their plans for the first Thursday meeting
when Tony called, if they were collecting signatures and planning to ask
for support?  What were they hiding?  Have they missed all the calls on
this list for transparency and process?  

Melani Lamond

Re: So, who is Committeeman7? [was: Re: [UC] Blackwell calls to save Fenton's job]

2007-06-07 Thread Ross Bender

On 6/7/07, Elizabeth F Campion [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


 I prefer attribution, but I understand why someone might not want to
expose themselves to the rampant paranoia, profligate speculation and
general nastiness that began to swirl around the 'offending' post, long
before a beginner might have twigged to list etiquette (or not) or a more
adept sender might have discovered an address oversight.


Many of our senders are known by insider nicknames.
Some of us include to much in our signatures, others too little, some
assume the E-address says it all.




Liz, I fail to understand why you're putting so much energy into defending
the practice of anonymous posting, which even the most hopeless newbie
realizes is a vile and scummy practice. There is absolutely no excuse for
sending messages under false names to a public email list. In fact, it is
technically illegal, although I can't cite the statute at the moment. WTF is
wrong with you today???



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