Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] How do you run on Linux
Bruce S.;450307 Wrote: > > I need guidance there, since there are numerous terms and notions that > are not explained. For example, the "default gateway" values made sense > on the Windows world, since I could read them doing an "ipconfig" > command. > > /sbin/ifconfig doesn't mention anything about a default gateway. So, I > don't know what to enter there. The 'route' command gives you, well, routing information, which is exactly what your gateway is (its the same as 'default route' -- where to send packets that are not for your network). -- snarlydwarf snarlydwarf's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1179 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=66800 ___ unix mailing list unix@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/unix
Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] How do you run on Linux
This is the output of the /sbin/ifconfig command: eth0 Link encap:Ethernet HWaddr 00:14:85:4F:D9:42 inet addr:192.168.0.2 Bcast:192.168.0.255 Mask:255.255.255.0 inet6 addr: fe80::214:85ff:fe4f:d942/64 Scope:Link UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST MTU:1500 Metric:1 RX packets:4006 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0 TX packets:4424 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0 collisions:0 txqueuelen:1000 RX bytes:2192114 (2.0 MiB) TX bytes:832847 (813.3 KiB) Interrupt:21 Base address:0xa000 loLink encap:Local Loopback inet addr:127.0.0.1 Mask:255.0.0.0 inet6 addr: ::1/128 Scope:Host UP LOOPBACK RUNNING MTU:16436 Metric:1 RX packets:474072 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0 TX packets:474072 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0 collisions:0 txqueuelen:0 RX bytes:81711794 (77.9 MiB) TX bytes:81711794 (77.9 MiB) What do I do with this info when going through the setup on the Squeezebox itself? -- Bruce S. Bruce S.'s Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2532 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=66800 ___ unix mailing list unix@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/unix
Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] How do you run on Linux
I've rescanned. However, rescanning shouldn't (and didn't) address the issue that Squeezecenter reports that my "Player was not found". So, I still can't play anything because it can't find my player. I have to this point done nothing to reset the various settings that you go through on the Squeezebox itself. I am thinking all that has to be redone. I need guidance there, since there are numerous terms and notions that are not explained. For example, the "default gateway" values made sense on the Windows world, since I could read them doing an "ipconfig" command. /sbin/ifconfig doesn't mention anything about a default gateway. So, I don't know what to enter there. -- Bruce S. Bruce S.'s Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2532 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=66800 ___ unix mailing list unix@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/unix
Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] How do you run on Linux
This is impossible. The Fedora install wiped out my C drive entirely. I don't know how to answer that except that the old windows server is gone. I don't know what my Squeezebox is looking at. I do know that it used to be that a full scan would take a long time. In this present incarnation of Squeezecenter [Slimserver], it was instantaneous. I'll force a scan. -- Bruce S. Bruce S.'s Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2532 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=66800 ___ unix mailing list unix@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/unix
Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] How do you run on Linux
The PIN is the ID by which SqueezeNetwork identifies your player. It doesn't have anything to do with local playback, as far as I know. Are you sure that your old copy of SqueezeCenter is not running or is uninstalled on the windows box that it lived on? I'm wondering if your Squeezebox is still looking at the old windows server. After you've configured SqueezeCenter on the Fedora box, did it ever do a complete scan of your music library? I don't think you can play items from the music folder if they haven't been scanned into the db. Try shutting down and restarting the Fedora box and then opening up the SqueezeCenter web interface and go to Settings and initiate a full wipe & rescan. Then monitor the scan progress through the web interface and see if it completes the scan. -- gharris999 gharris999's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=115 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=66800 ___ unix mailing list unix@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/unix
Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] How do you run on Linux
The old interface would tell me up front that no Squeezebox player could be found. Now, this info is buried. I clicked Settings->Player and it tells me "Your player was not found". This seems odd since the player found the router and the computer via its IP address. Also, messing around with the Remote control on the Squeezebox I found that the PIN has changed. Does that mean anything? What is the PIN for, exactly? -- Bruce S. Bruce S.'s Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2532 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=66800 ___ unix mailing list unix@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/unix
Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] How do you run on Linux
The problem may now be with my actual Squeezebox, although it is on and happily waiting, it seems, for a file to be sent over. It says" "NOW PLAYING". Ordinarily, in the Windows days, it would black out and shut off if it couldn't find Slimserver. -- Bruce S. Bruce S.'s Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2532 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=66800 ___ unix mailing list unix@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/unix
Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] How do you run on Linux
Your steps for mounting /mnt/media and /mnt/USB and editing the file worked. But I am still not there. Now Squeezecenter finds the music files and displays them under "Music Folder" but nothing will transfer to the right panel (when pressing the arrow) and thus nothing will play. What next? -- Bruce S. Bruce S.'s Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2532 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=66800 ___ unix mailing list unix@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/unix
Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] How do you run on Linux
Anticipating your next step: setting up samba so you get network access to your audio files. Primarily, you'd use this to push new audio files to the server as you rip them: (Disclaimer: these instructions are simplistic and may not be best practices..but they'll get you up and sharing over your network. Again, linux jocks please chime in.) Make a backup copy of /etc/samba/smb.conf: In a terminal, as su: # cp /etc/samba/smb.conf /etc/samba/smb.conf.org Edit smb.conf: # gedit /etc/samba/smb.conf Use this as a template: Code: #=== Global Settings = [global] workgroup = YOUR_WORKGROUP_NAME server string = Squeezebox Audio Server netbios name = SHORTSRVRNAME hosts allow = 127. 192.168.1. 192.168.0. # --- Logging Options - # logs split per machine log file = /var/log/samba/log.%m # max 50KB per log file, then rotate max log size = 50 # --- Standalone Server Options security = share passdb backend = tdbsam #- Name Resolution --- dns proxy = no socket options = TCP_NODELAY # --- Printing Options - load printers = yes cups options = raw # Share Definitions == [homes] comment = Home Directories browseable = no writable = yes [printers] comment = All Printers path = /var/spool/samba browseable = no guest ok = no writable = no printable = yes [Media] comment = Squeezebox Server Audio Files path = /mnt/media browseable = yes guest only = yes writeable = yes guest ok = yes [USB] comment = Squeezebox Server USB Backup Drive Files path = /mnt/USB browseable = yes guest only = yes writeable = yes guest ok = yes At the very least, you'll need to fixup the workgroup name in the above. Save the file and exit gedit. Make a backup of your firewall file: # cp /etc/sysconfig/iptables /etc/sysconfig/iptables.org Configure your firewall to allow samba: # gedit /etc/sysconfig/iptables The contents should be close to this: Code: # Firewall configuration written by system-config-firewall # Manual customization of this file is not recommended. *filter :INPUT ACCEPT [0:0] :FORWARD ACCEPT [0:0] :OUTPUT ACCEPT [0:0] -A INPUT -m state --state ESTABLISHED,RELATED -j ACCEPT -A INPUT -p icmp -j ACCEPT -A INPUT -i lo -j ACCEPT -A INPUT -m state --state NEW -m tcp -p tcp --dport 22 -j ACCEPT -A INPUT -m state --state NEW -m udp -p udp --dport 137 -j ACCEPT -A INPUT -m state --state NEW -m udp -p udp --dport 138 -j ACCEPT -A INPUT -m state --state NEW -m tcp -p tcp --dport 139 -j ACCEPT -A INPUT -m state --state NEW -m tcp -p tcp --dport 445 -j ACCEPT -A INPUT -m state --state NEW -m udp -p udp --dport 3483 -j ACCEPT -A INPUT -m state --state NEW -m tcp -p tcp --dport 3483 -j ACCEPT -A INPUT -m state --state NEW -m tcp -p tcp --dport 9000 -j ACCEPT -A INPUT -m state --state NEW -m tcp -p tcp --dport 9090 -j ACCEPT -A INPUT -m state --state NEW -m tcp -p tcp --dport 9092 -j ACCEPT -A INPUT -j REJECT --reject-with icmp-host-prohibited -A FORWARD -j REJECT --reject-with icmp-host-prohibited COMMIT These entries allow access over the network via SSH, Squeezeboxes & Samba. Configure the firewall to run on startup: # chkconfig iptables on Start the firewall: # service iptables start Configure the samba service so that it runs on startup: # chkconfig --level 35 nmb on # chkconfig --level 35 smb on Start samba: # service nmb restart # service smb restart If everything has gone well, you ought to be able to browse to your audio files from any windows machine on your network. Warning: with this configuration there is NO SECURITY on these shares. All users have full control over these files. You'll need to study up on samba and make more changes to smb.conf to add security. -- gharris999 gharris999's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=115 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=66800 ___ unix mailing list unix@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/unix
Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] How do you run on Linux
epoch1970;450213 Wrote: > First I don't want to derail the thread, so I'll be quick. I confess a > poor choice of words. > 2 weeks ago I was helping a new mac user scavenge 5 years worth of > digital pictures from her NTFS formatted drive. She had written to it > with the mac port of ntfs-3g, and, shazam! drive empty after reboot. A > rare problem, it seems. But, there it was. > In general I only gained problems not using the native, mainstream, > filesystem on an OS. Any OS. > With filesystems, a "problem" usually means files lost forever, or a > lot of stress and time spent repairing. > It ain't funny, so whenever possible, I try minimizing the chances, and > using the same system as everybody else. I go mainstream when choosing > my FS. > NTFS on linux is not the middle of the road. Well ok, it's a 6-lane > highway :) > > Anyways, Bruce S. has a backup, and this is commendable indeed, > regardless of the FS. I won't disagree with anything you've said here. Perhaps I've been skating on thin ice all this time by using ntfs-3g. Since I treat the audio content disk on my "production" SBServer as a backup of my primary audio store on my window ripping machine, I've allowed the convenience factor to trump safety. I'll let you know when I rue the day. -- gharris999 gharris999's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=115 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=66800 ___ unix mailing list unix@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/unix
Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] How do you run on Linux
gharris999;450163 Wrote: > Epoch: ... you're unnecessarily maligning the ntfs-3g driver here. It's > very robust. In several years of use on more than a dozen different > machines, I've never once had a NTFS drive messed up by this driver on a > linux box. ... First I don't want to derail the thread, so I'll be quick. I confess a poor choice of words. 2 weeks ago I was helping a new mac user scavenge 5 years worth of digital pictures from her NTFS formatted drive. She had written to it with the mac port of ntfs-3g, and, shazam! drive empty after reboot. A rare problem, it seems. But, there it was. In general I only gained problems not using the native, mainstream, filesystem on an OS. Any OS. With filesystems, a "problem" usually means files lost forever, or a lot of stress and time spent repairing. It ain't funny, so whenever possible, I try minimizing the chances, and using the same system as everybody else. I go mainstream when choosing my FS. NTFS on linux is not the middle of the road. Well ok, it's a 6-lane highway :) Anyways, Bruce S. has a backup, and this is commendable indeed, regardless of the FS. -- epoch1970 epoch1970's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=16711 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=66800 ___ unix mailing list unix@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/unix
Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] How do you run on Linux
I plan to. Your advice looks good. -- Bruce S. Bruce S.'s Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2532 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=66800 ___ unix mailing list unix@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/unix
Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] How do you run on Linux
Bruce S.;450189 Wrote: > I mispoke. I did find my music directories (drives) under the / > directory. They are in /media/MUSIC etc. > > However, on the SqueezeCenter display, there is nothing expandable > under the media directory listed. So, I entered it by typing in the > bottom command line. This let me get to the page that implies that > things are working, but under "Music Folder" I get nothing. > > Since I am at work, I will not be able to tackle this stuff until > tonight or maybe even tomorrow. Thanks for all you help. I suspect that /media/MUSIC is a temporary, on demand mounting of /dev/sdb1 and that squeezecenter won't be able to depend on it. Try my instructions from earlier in the thread for mounting to /mnt/media via fstab. That really ought to get you going. -- gharris999 gharris999's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=115 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=66800 ___ unix mailing list unix@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/unix
Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] How do you run on Linux
I mispoke. I did find my music directories (drives) under the / directory. They are in /media/MUSIC etc. However, on the SqueezeCenter display, there is nothing expandable under the media directory listed. So, I entered it by typing in the bottom command line. This let me get to the page that implies that things are working, but under "Music Folder" I get nothing. Since I am at work, I will not be able to tackle this stuff until tonight or maybe even tomorrow. Thanks for all you help. -- Bruce S. Bruce S.'s Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2532 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=66800 ___ unix mailing list unix@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/unix
Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] SC+Debian=Trouble?
pfarrell;450155 Wrote: > > I agree, my two servers run pure Debian and work great. Both are in > the > basement, and I never have to touch them. Uptime runs of 100s of days > are frequent. > Code: [gimli:~] 10:27:06am 52 % uptime 10:27:29 up 297 days, 1:16, 2 users, load average: 0.04, 0.06, 0.07 And I don't even try for a long uptime. (Yeah, yeah, blah kernel security hole, etc... I know.. but it's low on my list of priorities since it's a local compromise, not remote.) -- snarlydwarf snarlydwarf's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1179 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=66792 ___ unix mailing list unix@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/unix
Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] How do you run on Linux
epoch1970;450068 Wrote: > Since you have a backup drive, would you consider formatting sdb to a > linux native filesystem (use ext3 preferably) instead of using a > half-baked userland driver, as needed to access NTFS on linux ? > You wouldn't be using HFS (the Mac FS) or EXT2 on Windows, right ? --If > you'd do, you'd get into trouble sooner or later. Epoch: although I bow to your superior knowledge in many areas, I think you're unnecessarily maligning the ntfs-3g driver here. It's very robust. In several years of use on more than a just handful of machines, I've never once had a NTFS drive messed up by this driver on a linux box. I think that the worst thing one might say about ntfs-3g is that it's a little slower than ext2. I'm guessing, but I'd think that, at most, it might tack on an extra 10% to audio library scan times. Never once have I observed that driver slowness interfered with file access for audio playback...and this has been on some pretty under-powered hardware: Atom machines, VIA machines, etc. Let's let him get going with ntfs-3g and cross the bridge to switching to ext2 if and when ntfs-3g becomes a problem. I know that lots of linux folks think having any vestige of Microsoft on their boxes is inherently icky. To my mind, ntfs-3g is robust enough that insistence on ext2 in a case like this potentially boarders on file system chauvinism. -- gharris999 gharris999's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=115 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=66800 ___ unix mailing list unix@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/unix
Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] How do you run on Linux
I have a setup very similar to yours in that I keep my audio files on a NTFS formatted drive in a fedora box. Although there are many ways to do this, this is what I do: (..and if I step wrong here, hopefully one of you linux jocks will correct what I have to say..) Open a terminal and become the superuser via the # su command. You'll be prompted for root's password. Create a directory to which you'll mount the drive: # mkdir /mnt/media Change the permissions on the directory: # chmod 0777 /mnt/media Edit the /etc/fstab file...this is the file that the OS reads on boot up and contains the mounting instructions. # nano /etc/fstab Once the nano editor is open, add a line below the other entries: Code: /dev/sdb1/mnt/media ntfs-3g rw,defaults,noatime,umask= 0 0 Save the file...in nano, this would be ctrl-o & enter. Quit nano: ctrl-x. Now try to mount the disk: # umount /dev/sdb1 # mount -a Finally, see if you can see your disk: # ls /mnt/media -l This ought to show you the root folder of the disk. You should now be able to configure squeezecenter, pointing the music folder setting to /mnt/media/Music or whatever you've got on that disk. I use NTFS drives for my music drives on my squeezecenter servers for a couple of reasons: 1). NTFS is more space effecient than ext2/3 unless you really know what you're doing (which I don't) when you mkfs a partition to ext2/3. 2). My music ripping setup is all windows based. It's a lot easier and quicker for me to cone 1T of audio data from 1 NTFS disk to another in the windows machine than it is to try to push all that data over the network to a ext2 drive. Bruce: not withstanding point #2, above, if the mounting steps worked for you, then the next step will be to setup samba (windows file sharing) on the fedora box so that you can push new audio files over the network to the NTFS drive. Let me know if you'd like help with that. Also, you'll want to pick up a couple of freeware tools so that you can administer this machine remotely from windows clients on your network: PuTTY and WinSCP. These tools will allow you to run your server in text mode without the GUI (saves CPU horsepower) and to run it headless (no keyboard, mouse or monitor) stuck in a closet somewhere. -- gharris999 gharris999's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=115 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=66800 ___ unix mailing list unix@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/unix
Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] SC+Debian=Trouble?
paulster wrote: > The answer to your original question is that SqueezeCenter plus Debian > doesn't equal trouble! It's a really solid platform to run it on, in my > experience. > > My uptime is at 111 days currently and it's only that short because I > did a Kernel upgrade and had to reboot back then. I agree, my two servers run pure Debian and work great. Both are in the basement, and I never have to touch them. Uptime runs of 100s of days are frequent. -- Pat Farrell http://www.pfarrell.com/ ___ unix mailing list unix@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/unix
Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] SC+Debian=Trouble?
The answer to your original question is that SqueezeCenter plus Debian doesn't equal trouble! It's a really solid platform to run it on, in my experience. My uptime is at 111 days currently and it's only that short because I did a Kernel upgrade and had to reboot back then. It's definitely my Linux flavour of choice now for server type stuff. -- paulster paulster's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=23073 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=66792 ___ unix mailing list unix@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/unix
Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] How do you run on Linux
In the terminal, what does "mount" (or 'sudo mount' if necessary) return ? How does your /etc/fstab file look ? Since you have a backup drive, would you consider formatting sdb to a linux native filesystem (use ext3 preferably) instead of using a half-baked userland driver, as needed to access NTFS on linux ? You wouldn't be using HFS (the Mac FS) or EXT2 on Windows, right ? --If you'd do, you'll get into trouble sooner or later. Obligatory disclaimer: FORMATTING ERASES YOUR DRIVE CONTENTS. Do not format before you are certain the backup drive is up-to-date and valid. Do not format with the backup drive connected to the machine; tuck it away safely until the dust has settled. -- epoch1970 epoch1970's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=16711 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=66800 ___ unix mailing list unix@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/unix
