Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] Community Squeeze OS R3

2013-05-04 Thread lintweaker

JackOfAll wrote: 
 'Image Gallery' (http://www.communitysqueeze.org/image_gallery.jsp)
 
 lintweaker, dsdreamer, Pascal Hibon, and michaelvv. 
 
 Do you wan't to write a paragraph to accompany your images?

Sure, no problem!



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Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] Community Squeeze OS R3

2013-05-04 Thread Squeezed_Rotel

Gentlemen, your website is really quite excellent. The FAQ and Quick
Start Guide instructions are accurate, thorough and well written.
My board arrived yesterday at 4 pm, and by 4:30 pm, I was listening to
music with headphones. Today I will set up wireless. I would have done
so initially, but I have many devices that use WEP, and did not have the
time to change over to WPA (per quick start guide).

One question...
I also purchased the Hammond 1455T1601 case as specified in the guide.
The board is much smaller than the rails in this enclosure. Might I
assume that this Hammond enclosure is for the combined CSP / Wandboard
assembly?

Again, I must emphasize that your combined efforts are truly excellent!



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Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] Community Squeeze OS R3

2013-05-04 Thread bakker_be

Squeezed_Rotel wrote: 
 Gentlemen, your website is really quite excellent. The FAQ and Quick
 Start Guide instructions are accurate, thorough and well written.
 My board arrived yesterday at 4 pm, and by 4:30 pm, I was listening to
 music with headphones. Today I will set up wireless. I would have done
 so initially, but I have many devices that use WEP, and did not have the
 time to change over to WPA (per quick start guide).
 
 One question...
 I also purchased the Hammond 1455T1601 case as specified in the guide.
 The board is much smaller than the rails in this enclosure. Might I
 assume that this Hammond enclosure is for the combined CSP / Wandboard
 assembly?
 
 Again, I must emphasize that your combined efforts are truly excellent!

The Hammond case is for the board John Swenson is developping.



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Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] Community Squeeze OS R3

2013-05-04 Thread Squeezed_Rotel

bakker_be wrote: 
 The Hammond case is for the board John Swenson is developping.

Thanks. I now see that this info is in the FAQ. I found it after my
post.



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Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] Community Squeeze OS R3

2013-05-04 Thread JackOfAll

Squeezed_Rotel wrote: 
 
 I also purchased the Hammond 1455T1601 case as specified in the guide.
 The board is much smaller than the rails in this enclosure. Might I
 assume that this Hammond enclosure is for the combined CSP / Wandboard
 assembly?

Yes, perhaps we need to make that clearer in the FAQ. The Hammond
chassis is for a 6 PCB carrier board, not the default Wandboard carrier
board. Case for the default carrier board is the optional, 2 part black
plastic case sold by the Wandboard distributors.

[image: http://uk.mouser.com/images/technexion/lrg/wbenclosure.JPG]



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Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] Announce: Squeezelite - a small headless squeezeplay emulator for linux (alsa only)

2013-05-04 Thread PasTim

PasTim wrote: 
 I have just started running squeezelite on my Vortexbox with a Meridian
 Explorer DAC.  All seems fine, and then it starts stuttering a bit.  It
 seems to be random, any quality flac.  As I am listening at this moment
 it does not, of course, want to stutter at all.
 
 I have no idea where to start looking for the source of the problem.  On
 the Vortexbox the instructions are to include parameters in a
 squeezelite file in the sysconfig.  Apart from making it play to my DAC
 I have not managed to make the -p parameter do anything that I can see
 with TOP (but then I don't really understand the linux priorities).  Or
 should I be looking at buffers, or Alsa params or..???
 
 I'm no Linux expert, but I usually manage to make things work
 eventually.
I now have a similar problem running it on ubuntu 12.04.

I appreciate I must be extremely stupid, or illiterate, or too old,
or (insert insult as required) but could the instructions be a
little clearer?  It may be that the info is in this thread somewhere,
but I've failed to find it.

So for instance

- what rate values are we meant to use, for, say 96000 Hz?  96 or 96000
or even 96,000?
- I can't get the -p option to do a thing.  I'm very confused about
linux priorities which some seem to say go from -20 to + 20.  If 1 to
99, what's the highest?  I've worked on systems where 99 was high and 1
was low.  What's intended here, and how do I get ubuntu to take any
notice (at least system monitor insists the priority is normal in all
cases)?
- if I'm still having problems where do I start with buffers and alsa
options?  

Help?



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Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] Announce: Squeezelite - a small headless squeezeplay emulator for linux (alsa only)

2013-05-04 Thread Triode

PasTim wrote: 
 I now have a similar problem running it on ubuntu 12.04.
 
 I appreciate I must be extremely stupid, or illiterate, or too old,
 or (insert insult as required) but could the instructions be a
 little clearer?  It may be that the info is in this thread somewhere,
 but I've failed to find it.
 
 So for instance
 
 - what rate values are we meant to use, for, say 96000 Hz?  96 or 96000
 or even 96,000?
 - I can't get the -p option to do a thing.  I'm very confused about
 linux priorities which some seem to say go from -20 to + 20.  If 1 to
 99, what's the highest?  I've worked on systems where 99 was high and 1
 was low.  What's intended here, and how do I get ubuntu to take any
 notice (at least system monitor insists the priority is normal in all
 cases)?
 - if I'm still having problems where do I start with buffers and alsa
 options?  
 
 Help?

Its very unlikely you need to touch any of the parameters - they are for
expert users... 

However if you get dropouts, then the first thing to do is try a larger
alsa buffer, so try -a 80.  You can also try running a root with sudo
as the other priority mechanisms only work when the process has access
to real time priorities.  You should not need to change anything else,
but if you do suggest reading through from the start of this thread.



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Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] Community Squeeze OS R3

2013-05-04 Thread JackOfAll

I've added the user contributed text and Castalla's Cubieboard to the
'Image Gallery' (http://www.communitysqueeze.org/image_gallery.jsp).
Thank you!



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Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] Announce: Squeezelite - a small headless squeezeplay emulator for linux (alsa only)

2013-05-04 Thread PasTim

Triode wrote: 
 Its very unlikely you need to touch any of the parameters - they are for
 expert users... 
 
 However if you get dropouts, then the first thing to do is try a larger
 alsa buffer, so try -a 80.  You can also try running a root with sudo
 as the other priority mechanisms only work when the process has access
 to real time priorities.  You should not need to change anything else,
 but if you do suggest reading through from the start of this thread.
Thanks.  I have got drop-outs, randomly, on two different systems (an
ubuntu desktop and a dedicated fedora system for Vortebox), but only
when the systems feel like throwing a fit, even when cpu loads are very
low ( 10%).  So I assume I need to understand a bit more.  I have read
through most of the thread before, but I suppose I'll have to try again.
What is frustrating is that the forum searches seem unable to find
terms such as -r, even in quotes.  Not your fault I know, but it's a
serious limitation on the use of forums to aid understanding rather than
being able to read a slightly more detailed summary of instructions.

I'll try running as sudo, and use your alsa buffer setting, but could
you at least clarify the priority settings for me? On your scale of 1 to
99, what's normal, what's high?  The ubuntu system is a desktop and
tends to get used for all sorts of things in parallel.



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Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] Announce: Squeezelite - a small headless squeezeplay emulator for linux (alsa only)

2013-05-04 Thread Triode

PasTim wrote: 
 Thanks.  I have got drop-outs, randomly, on two different systems (an
 ubuntu desktop and a dedicated fedora system for Vortebox), but only
 when the systems feel like throwing a fit, even when cpu loads are very
 low ( 10%).  So I assume I need to understand a bit more.  I have read
 through most of the thread before, but I suppose I'll have to try again.
 What is frustrating is that the forum searches seem unable to find
 terms such as -r, even in quotes.  Not your fault I know, but it's a
 serious limitation on the use of forums to aid understanding rather than
 being able to read a slightly more detailed summary of instructions.
 
 I'll try running as sudo, and use your alsa buffer setting, but could
 you at least clarify the priority settings for me? On your scale of 1 to
 99, what's normal, what's high?  The ubuntu system is a desktop and
 tends to get used for all sorts of things in parallel.

Priority is the SCHED_FIFO priority value - so it will only work if you
are able to set sched fifo (needs the kernel to support and the user to
be allowed to use it).  If you start with -d output=debug you will see
if it has taken any effect.  Unless you have tuned lots of other
processes for this, suggest you just try running as root to get the
default value of this (45).



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Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] Announce: Squeezelite - a small headless squeezeplay emulator for linux (alsa only)

2013-05-04 Thread PasTim

Triode wrote: 
 Priority is the SCHED_FIFO priority value - so it will only work if you
 are able to set sched fifo (needs the kernel to support and the user to
 be allowed to use it).  If you start with -d output=debug you will see
 if it has taken any effect.  Unless you have tuned lots of other
 processes for this, suggest you just try running as root to get the
 default value of this (45).

OK.  What I now get is as below for command


Code:


  gksudo /home/xxx/Music/squeezelite-x86-64 -a 30 -o hw:DAC,DEV=0 -n 
Desktop-Lite -r 192000 -f /var/log/squeezelite/squeezelite.log -p 30 -d 
output=debug
  



Further, every time I get a dropout I get one of the
SNDRV_PCM_IOCTL_DELAY failed errors.


Code:


  [15:46:44.845338] output_init:1305 init output
  [15:46:44.845533] output_init:1308 outputbuf size: 3528000
  [15:46:44.845572] output_init:1340 requested buffer_time: 3 period_count: 
4 format: any mmap: 1
  [15:46:44.845592] output_init:1366 output: hw:DAC,DEV=0 maxrate: 192000
  [15:46:44.850207] output_init:1376 memory locked
  [15:46:44.857029] output_init:1399 set output sched fifo rt: 30
  [15:46:45.172494] output_thread:583 open output device: hw:DAC,DEV=0
  [15:46:45.172724] alsa_open:269 opened device hw:DAC,DEV=0 using format: 
S32_LE sample rate: 44100 mmap: 1
  [15:46:45.172771] alsa_open:317 buffer time: 30022 period count: 4 buffer 
size: 1324 period size: 331
  [15:46:45.623659] ALSA snd_pcm_hw_start:587 SNDRV_PCM_IOCTL_START failed (-32)
  [15:46:45.641424] output_thread:773 track start sample rate: 44100 
replay_gain: 0
  [15:48:11.997799] ALSA snd_pcm_hw_delay:514 SNDRV_PCM_IOCTL_DELAY failed (-32)
  [15:48:11.997906] output_thread:594 XRUN
  [15:48:12.007385] ALSA snd_pcm_hw_start:587 SNDRV_PCM_IOCTL_START failed (-32)
  [15:48:23.816446] ALSA snd_pcm_hw_start:587 SNDRV_PCM_IOCTL_START failed (-32)
  




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Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] Community Squeeze OS R3

2013-05-04 Thread Squeezemenicely

JackOfAll wrote: 
 Yes, the JS DAC Carrier board will be available separately.
 
 The default carrier board that comes with the Wandboard has a value of
 less than 10 EURO's. The CPU card is the bulk of the cost. So by buying
 a Wandboard now and the JS DAC Carrier board later, you will only be
 paying a premium of 10 EURO for the default Carrier board, that you will
 not be using once you have the JS DAC Carrier board.


Thanks so much for the info, then I misinterpreted the FAQs where I
read:

if you get a Wandboard now, can you re-use its CPU card for later
releases?

Maybe, but at the present time we don't know yet whether we will be
releasing the later products without CPU modules.

and

It is hoped (but to be confirmed) that there will be the option of
purchasing the bare DAC carrier board, or a ready to go, pre-built
player, assembled, tested and comprising the DAC carrier board,
Wandboard Dual CPU board, Hammond extruded aluminium chassis, front/rear
panels, (glass fibre PCB material), a power supply, and a pre-imaged SD
card.




So it seems this info is outdated and one can actually upgrade the
excisting Wandboard with the JS DAC card. Maybe changing the info in the
FAQs would help others.



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Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] Community Squeeze OS R3

2013-05-04 Thread Chunkywizard

yep, it needs updating, I'll do it when I have my head around github!

CW



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Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] Community Squeeze OS R3

2013-05-04 Thread JackOfAll

Squeezemenicely wrote: 
 So it seems this info is outdated and one will actually be able to
 upgrade the excisting Wandboard with a separately available JS DAC card.

I'm still working on documentation. I've been working on a proper
index page for days, trying to give a complete overview and explain that
the Community Squeeze concept is the software, the hardware, and
trying to state specifically what we have now, ie. a Community Squeeze
Player based on the default Wandboard, and what is to come later with
the hardware player based on the Wandboard CPU card and the JS DAC
Carrier board, and the stages invloved with that. And making it clear
that anyone who buys into the Wandboard now won't be left high-and-dry
without an upgrade path. 

The FAQ needs a little re-ordering too, splitting into sections -
hardware, software, general, etc. etc. (I'm not pointing fingers at
Paul, who compiled the FAQ, just thinking out loud that it could do with
a little more work as some areas seem to be causing confusion. So,
Chunkywizard, please do not take that at as a criticism. It's not meant
to be!)

The bottom line is that we are pulling together some documentation now,
that important bits of info are not buried 10 pages deep in forum
threads. And what we have now on the web site is not the finished
article. I had a sneak preview last night of what the guy who is doing
our web development has been up to this week, which hopefully I'll be
able to make public in the next few days. It is looking good.



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Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] LMS on Wandboard with Community Squeeze OS R3 - Looking for starter guide

2013-05-04 Thread gregb

I found some hints here: http://eewiki.net/display/linuxonarm/Wandboard
It looks like the board and case are available from Digi-Key and
Mouser.
Is there a performance difference between solo and dual? (intended use
is LMS with 50K track library)
Is there a recommended power supply and sdcard?
What else is needed?
Thanks, gregb



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Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] Community Squeeze OS R3

2013-05-04 Thread Squeezemenicely

you guys are doing a great job! These are exciting times. Wandboard here
I come ;-)



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Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] LMS on Wandboard with Community Squeeze OS R3 - Looking for starter guide

2013-05-04 Thread JackOfAll

gregb wrote: 
 I found some hints here: http://eewiki.net/display/linuxonarm/Wandboard
 It looks like the board and case are available from Digi-Key and Mouser.
 Is there a performance difference between solo and dual? (intended use
 is LMS with 50K track library)
 Is there a recommended power supply and sdcard?
 What else is needed?
 Thanks, gregb

Buy the Dual Lite board. It has double the memory, a second processor
core, Bluetooth and Wi-Fi. 
SDCARD:  Class 4/6. 4GB or greater.
Power supply: 5V DC, capable of delivering = 2A with 2.1/2.5mm barrel
connector.



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Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] LMS on Wandboard with Community Squeeze OS R3 - Looking for starter guide

2013-05-04 Thread Squeezemenicely

yes a Dummies guide for mounting network shares would be great, I am
sure I will also be needing this info soon, just ordered my wandboard.

Am really looking forward to seeing how it will do performancewise
compared to the raspberry Pi - which is already pretty good, but the
searchfeature could be a bit faster...



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Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] Community Squeeze OS R3

2013-05-04 Thread JackOfAll

WANDBOARD-AVAHI-SERVICES-1.0-1

Service entries for ssh (22), http (80), slimhttp (9000), registered for
wandboard.local.

Changes...

Code:


  * Wed Mar 06 2013 - 1.0-1
  - Initial build.
  



Install...

Code:


  sudo yum --disablerepo=* --enablerepo=community-squeeze clean metadata
  sudo yum install wandboard-avahi-services
  




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Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] Community Squeeze OS R3

2013-05-04 Thread JackOfAll

JIVELITE-0.1-0.34.20130501GIT632203D

Changes...

Code:


  * Tue Apr 30 2013 - 0.1-0.34.20130501git632203d
  - Latest git revision 632203d.
  - hide wallpaper options which do not match hd screen sizes.
  
  * Tue Apr 30 2013 - 0.1-0.33.20130430git91b2d9f
  - Latest git revision 91b2d9f.
  - improve initial startup so always close to home menu.
  



Update...

Code:


  sudo csos-cleanUpdate jivelite-autologin jivelite
  




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Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] Community Squeeze OS R3

2013-05-04 Thread JackOfAll

COMMUNITY-SQUEEZE-WEB-1-50.20130504GITD9D2E3A

Changes...

Code:

* Sat May 04 2013 - 1-50.20130504gitd9d2e3a
  - Latest git revision d9d2e3a.
  



Update...

Code:


  sudo csos-cleanUpdate community-squeeze-web
  




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Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] Community Squeeze OS R3

2013-05-04 Thread Pascal Hibon

JackOfAll wrote: 
 'Image Gallery' (http://www.communitysqueeze.org/image_gallery.jsp)
 
 lintweaker, dsdreamer, Pascal Hibon, and michaelvv. 
 
 Do you wan't to write a paragraph to accompany your images?

Sorry for the delay but I have been tied up in work related stuff.
I like the idea to group these Community Squeeze projects together in
one place. I'm planning on posting some updates as my prototype evolves.

Here's my contribution:

 
 Although I have no immediate need for an additional Squeezebox
 (currently have 2x SB Touch, 1x SB Radio, 1x SB Boom and 1x SB Classic)
 I found the Community Squeeze a great initiative. That is the main
 reason for me purchasing a Wandboard and start testing it too. 
 I'm mainly interested in various digital outputs on the Community
 Squeeze to connect it to an external DAC. At present I have an M-DAC and
 I will be connecting the Community Squeeze by either coax or Toslink
 SPDIF or through USB.  The Toslink on the Wandboard is incorrectly wired
 and that was a great opportunity to create a small digital IO board that
 holds both coax and optical SPDIF. The prototype is show in the picture
 below.
 
 '[image: http://img856.imageshack.us/img856/3071/testopstelling.jpg]'
 (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/856/testopstelling.jpg/)
 
 You may have noticed that the Wandboard is mounted on a piece of wood.
 The wood has the same dimensions as my M-DAC and the idea is to create a
 beautiful enclosure that nicely fits the M-DAC. I talked to John
 Westlake, the guy behind the M-DAC and creator of the upcoming Lakewest
 products, and he will be supplying me an empty MPAX housing. So keep
 peeking back here for more updates...
 
 Since I started using Squeezeboxes I've been a fan of the analog VU
 meter screensavers. And to give the Community Squeeze the same vintage
 look I'll be fitting a pair of vintage VU meters. I'm planning on using
 the analog output of the Wandboard to drive the meters.  I have
 successfully sync'ed the digital and analog outputs on the Wandboard
 (with a little help from Clive) by configuring ASLA. That works but from
 time to time I experience some audio drop outs. That is due to the fact
 that the WAndboard drivers currently use different clocks to drive the
 digital and analog outputs. Some code change is required to correct
 this. Below is a picture of the front panel of my prototype Community
 Squeeze:
 
 '[image:
 http://img818.imageshack.us/img818/3874/testopstellingfront.jpg]'
 (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/818/testopstellingfront.jpg/)
 
 To be continued...
 




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Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] Community Squeeze OS R3

2013-05-04 Thread Triode

Pascal Hibon wrote: 
 Thses are the results acording to the M-DAC:
 
 '[image: https://imageshack.us/scaled/large/692/samplerateresultsh.jpg]'
 (http://imageshack.us/photos/my-images/692/samplerateresultsh.jpg/)
 
 
 Note that the error rate for 176k4 is still too high. The M-DAC unlocks
 a couple of times during playback.
 The error rate for 88k2 is also quite high compared to the rest but the
 M-DAC does not unlock. Sure enough, we are at the limits here...

Pascal - could you PM me an email address?  Are you happy to help me
test a new kernel which I believe for spdif only gets accurate bitrates
for 88.2k (can't test at 176.4k but hope that will work too.)  It
changes the internal pll used for spdif to be the audio one, so I don't
know about the side effect - it doesn't support the analog output at
present as I've disabled that...



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Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] Community Squeeze OS R3

2013-05-04 Thread Pascal Hibon

Triode wrote: 
 Pascal - could you PM me an email address?  Are you happy to help me
 test a new kernel which I believe for spdif only gets accurate bitrates
 for 88.2k (can't test at 176.4k but hope that will work too.)  It
 changes the internal pll used for spdif to be the audio one, so I don't
 know about the side effect - it doesn't support the analog output at
 present as I've disabled that...

Sure, more than happy to. 
PM sent.



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Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] Announce: Squeezelite - a small headless squeezeplay emulator for linux (alsa only)

2013-05-04 Thread PasTim

Just when I think some combination of parameters, guessed and trialled
from various previous posts has sorted it, it misbehaves again, without
any log entry even though I have debug output on.  This seems to happen
on my Vortexbox after about 6 minutes (playing piano music - I assume
that's irrelevant but you never know ...), and then stops, and then
starts again.

Is this a problem with my Meridian Explorer USB DAC, which otherwise
produces such wonderful sound, or software on the LMS box?  It feels
like the latter, but how can I tell?  

I am baffled.  How do I diagnose such problems?  I am still reading
through posts on this thread, but it seems to me that all I can do is
guess and hack according to what someone found on some completely
different bit of kit.  My Gould 1955 Bach Goldbergs ripped from original
LP are doing it again as I write.   have now stopped and are
wonderful again.



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Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] Announce: Squeezelite - a small headless squeezeplay emulator for linux (alsa only)

2013-05-04 Thread Triode

PasTim wrote: 
 Just when I think some combination of parameters, guessed and trialled
 from various previous posts has sorted it, it misbehaves again, without
 any log entry even though I have debug output on.  This seems to happen
 on my Vortexbox after about 6 minutes (playing piano music - I assume
 that's irrelevant but you never know ...), and then stops, and then
 starts again.
 
 Is this a problem with my Meridian Explorer USB DAC, which otherwise
 produces such wonderful sound, or software on the LMS box?  It feels
 like the latter, but how can I tell?  
 
 I am baffled.  How do I diagnose such problems?  I am still reading
 through posts on this thread, but it seems to me that all I can do is
 guess and hack according to what someone found on some completely
 different bit of kit.  My Gould 1955 Bach Goldbergs ripped from original
 LP are doing it again as I write.   have now stopped and are
 wonderful again.

I would google for this specific issue: ALSA snd_pcm_hw_delay:514
SNDRV_PCM_IOCTL_DELAY failed this is happening within the alsa library,
not within squeezelite and I don't really think tuning lots of
squeezelite params is going to help.



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Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] Community Squeeze OS R3

2013-05-04 Thread JackOfAll

Pascal Hibon wrote: 
 Sorry for the delay but I have been tied up in work related stuff.
 I like the idea to group these Community Squeeze projects together in
 one place. I'm planning on posting some updates as my prototype evolves.
 Here's my contribution:

Pascal, 

I've added your text. (Hope you don't mind. I made a couple of small
edits.) I left the first image cropped-in on the WB and your spdif
board. Click on it and you get the full 640xXXX image. I also cropped
the second image.

'Image Gallery' (http://www.communitysqueeze.org/image_gallery.jpg)



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Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] Community Squeeze OS R3

2013-05-04 Thread Pascal Hibon

JackOfAll wrote: 
 Pascal, 
 
 I've added your text. (Hope you don't mind. I made a couple of small
 edits.) I left the first image cropped-in on the WB and your spdif
 board. Click on it and you get the full 640xXXX image. I also cropped
 the second image.
 
 'Image Gallery' (http://www.communitysqueeze.org/image_gallery.jsp)

Sure, no problem. I guess the full images would take up too much space.



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Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] Announce: Squeezelite - a small headless squeezeplay emulator for linux (alsa only)

2013-05-04 Thread PasTim

Triode wrote: 
 I would google for this specific issue: ALSA snd_pcm_hw_delay:514
 SNDRV_PCM_IOCTL_DELAY failed this is happening within the alsa library,
 not within squeezelite and I don't really think tuning lots of
 squeezelite params is going to help.

On the Vortexbox I get no such errors diagnostics.  The sound is fine
for several minutes, then crackle, dropout, and then fine again.  

I fully understand that the authors of a bit of software can't possibly
solve all problems, there are far too many variables involved, but there
must be some form of methodical approach one can take, isn't there?  For
what it's worth my brief google on diagnostics from my other (ubuntu)
system, as suggested, has not yet helped.  I'll keep looking.

I'm aware this seems a bit too much like a moan against the author,
Triode. That isn't my intention at all.   It's just that one sits down
to some serious listening and all of a sudden the sound breaks up for no
apparent reason, and there seems no way to find out why, which is most
frustrating.  But there must be a a way, isn't there?

I am also keenly aware that my IT background is mostly not real-time
(except for a dalliance with real-time systems analysing experimental
data on a Honeywell DDP 516 many years ago) but such unpredictability
seems  strange in the modern world.



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Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] Announce: Squeezelite - a small headless squeezeplay emulator for linux (alsa only)

2013-05-04 Thread Triode

PasTim wrote: 
 On the Vortexbox I get no such errors diagnostics.  The sound is fine
 for several minutes, then crackle, dropout, and then fine again.  
 
 I fully understand that the authors of a bit of software can't possibly
 solve all problems, there are far too many variables involved, but there
 must be some form of methodical approach one can take, isn't there?  For
 what it's worth my brief google on diagnostics from my other (ubuntu)
 system, as suggested, has not yet helped.  I'll keep looking.
 
 I'm aware this seems a bit too much like a moan against the author,
 Triode. That isn't my intention at all.   It's just that one sits down
 to some serious listening and all of a sudden the sound breaks up for no
 apparent reason, and there seems no way to find out why, which is most
 frustrating.  But there must be a a way, isn't there?
 
 I am also keenly aware that my IT background is mostly not real-time
 (except for a dalliance with real-time systems analysing experimental
 data on a Honeywell DDP 516 many years ago) but such unpredictability
 seems  strange in the modern world.

Can you try another dac or another output interface (spdif?)  Do the
errors in the log correspond with time of the dropouts?  The problem
here is that I would expect XRUN messages for every drop out and then
tuning squeezelite may help, but its not clear that you are getting
these?



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Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] Community Squeeze OS R3

2013-05-04 Thread JackOfAll

Pascal Hibon wrote: 
 I guess the full images would take up too much space.

Not so much that, more a case that I was trying to draw attention to
your SPDIF board. If have have a much larger original image, I'll crop
that to provide a higher-res 640xXXX image of the daughter board, with a
link to the full image. (The rule of thumb I was given by the web
developer was to keep images embedded in pages = 640px, and if
necessary provide links to larger resolution images.)

The second image, is cropped to 640px width. To be honest there isn't
really any content other than the front panel with the VU meters, so I
cropped it.



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Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] Community Squeeze OS R3

2013-05-04 Thread JackOfAll

KERNEL-WAND-3.0.35-CM37+

For Pascal: Kernel to test with Triode's patch to use pll4 (audio) clock
for spdif output.

Changes...

Code:


  * Sat May 04 2013 - 3.0.35-cm37+
  - Triode as-patch4-spdif-pll4.patch. Use pll4 (audio) for spdif clock.
  



Install...

Code:


  sudo yum --enablerepo=community-squeeze-testing install 
kernel-wand-3.0.35-cm37+.fc18
  sync
  sudo reboot
  




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Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] Fedora 18 Upgrade appears to break LMS 7.7.2 and 7.7.3

2013-05-04 Thread gharris999

JackOfAll: Is there any easy way to tell what's been revised or changed
when you update community-squeeze-repo.noarch?  I yum updated to 1-5
today and I'm seeing some strange interactions with squeezelite.

Thanks.



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