Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] LMS debian unstable package fails to run with perl 5.20

2014-10-25 Thread colin_e

On my Debian Jessie box changing the entry in
/etc/apt/sources.list.d/squeezecenter.list to point to the "unstable"
branch got me LMS 7.8.1 which installed and ran first time, which is
great. Thanks to everyone on this thread. Questions-


-  No mention of the 7.9.x branch in Synaptic Package Manager ?
-  The package description text that displays in Synaptic doesn't
  mention the close coupling the system has to the OS's Perl version. As
  getting it wrong silently breaks LMS it would be good to see this
  mentioned!
-  If the 7.x.x versions of LMS are dependent on specific versions of
  Perl is it not possible to have this dependency described in the
  package definition? I thought that was the added-vaue that packaging
  systems like apt gave you, or is that a naive view?
  

BTW,  a message for the maintainer(s) of Logitech Media Centre-

The reason I logged back into these forums after 5 years (!) was that
LMS and my Squeezebox Duet are a part of our daily lives. I rip every CD
I buy to FLAC, save it on our home server, and play the music through
the Duet Hi-Fi amp.

Aside from a few niggles like tagging funnies and the slow wakeup time
of the Duet remote it's one those rare bits of technology that "just
works", extremely well.

Like a lot of customers I was very sad to see Logitech kill off the
"local network" product line, and I've yet to find a product that does
the same as well, let alone better.

So I appreciate the efforts that are being made to keep LMS alive and
updated. We wouldn't shout so loud when it broke if it wasn't such a
great little product ;-)



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Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] LMS debian unstable package fails to run with perl 5.20

2014-10-25 Thread colin_e

crabbz wrote: 
> Hi! The LMS 7.8.1 package for debian unstable from the
> debian.slimdevices.com repository fails to run after unstable upgraded
> to perl 5.20.  The server logs just show the following:
> ...

I'm really glad to have resurrected my old login on the fortums and
found this thread. I spent an evening yesterday wondering why latest
"Testing" LMS package (7.4.1?) the package manager picked up from
debian.slimdevices.org was doing the "restart every 5 seconds" thing on
my newly-built machine using Jessie Testing.

Couple of points-

Re:


-   mherger wrote: 
>   FWIW: I added binaries for 5.20 on 64 bit Linux to 7.8.1 and 7.9.0
  
  Apologies if i'm being dim, but how do I ensure I pick up exactly the
  right build? A link to the download package or the right recipe for
  /etc/apt/sources.list.d/* would be very helpful.
  
-  As an observation, not everyone running a leading-edge build of a
  Distro is necessarily a hardcore hacker who does builds from source in
  their sleep. In my case i'm aiming to build a home server to replace
  an elderly Synology NAS, and discovered I needed the Jessie build of
  Debian to get support for my hardware chipset (Intel Haswell).
  
-  Perl itself is a high level language that's some distance from the
  low level hardware and OS details. It's a shame LMS is now caught up
  in this nightmarish-sounding web of dependencies on precise versions
  of sub-packages and libraries. Short term it's hard to see an easy way
  out. Long term i can see a future where everything is shipped as a
  complete container package with all its dependencies using something
  like Docker. Ok, so your media centre will be a 500MB download that
  includes every library it uses and half an OS, but at least it will
  run out of the box :-}



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