Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] Choice of basic LInux OS for LMS
I am using Lubuntu 12.10 for a couple of years now. It's rather crappy and I am a bit tired of it. Now that I have a better computer for my LMS I am testing Mint 15. I never got LMS to work on Mint 17.3 and I am surprised TS runs it on Mint 18. Vansloneker's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=64269 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=106707 ___ unix mailing list unix@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/unix
Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] Choice of basic LInux OS for LMS
My LMS has become a vital part of house. I consider it an appliance. I expect it to "just be there" at all times. I would recommend a Debian Stable setup. I've never had a server related problem. The provided .deb file installs simply and reliably. The hardware is an old Windows PC that couldn't keep up with Microsoft's requirement for more power. Free software and discarded hardware power the house music system. It just makes the whole thing so cool. -- Logitech Media Server Version: 7.7.5 - 1416570306 OS: Debian - EN - utf8 Platform: i686-linux Perl Version: 5.14.2 - i486-linux-gnu-thread-multi-64int Database Version: DBD::SQLite 1.34_01 (sqlite 3.7.7.1) Total Players Recognized: 4 Squeezebox3: Firmware: 137 Duet: (2 receivers, 1 controller) Firmware: 77 Boom Firmware: 57 -- teeitup's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=14402 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=106707 ___ unix mailing list unix@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/unix
Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] Choice of basic LInux OS for LMS
I still stick with Xubuntu 14.04 LTS. As long as it works. Gesendet von meinem Nexus 6 mit Tapatalk Current setup: - ASRock Ion 330, Lubuntu 14.04, LMS 7.9, FLAC - *Duet* > Pro-Ject DAC Box E > AKG Hearo 888 Titan (home office), *Boom + Canton ASF 75 SC* (master bedroom), *Boom* (master bathroom), 2 *Radios* (guest bathroom and garden deck), *RPi3 + LibreELEC + XSqueeze* > Samsung TV > NAD L53 > Mission 2.1 speakers (living room) - *Touch* > Parasound DAC 1500 > vintage Wega Modul 42V amp (42E equalizer, 42T tape deck + Thorens TD 160 Mk II turntable) > Quadral Vulkan Mk II (music room) wortgefecht's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=63295 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=106707 ___ unix mailing list unix@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/unix
Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] Choice of basic LInux OS for LMS
I ended up with Linux Mint 18 LTS . Its a stable LTS support not exactly bleeding edge . But not to ancient . All this SSL stuff sems not to work with degadesnold perl versions etc . Mint usually have very easy options to gdt media codecs . Main hifi: Touch + CIA PS +MeridianG68J MeridianHD621 MeridianG98DH 2 x MeridianDSP5200 MeridianDSP5200HC 2 xMeridianDSP3100 +Rel Stadium 3 sub. Bedroom/Office: Boom Kitchen: Touch + powered Fostex PM0.4 Misc use: Radio (with battery) iPad1 with iPengHD & SqueezePad (spares Touch, SB3, reciever ,controller ) server HP proliant micro server N36L with ClearOS Linux http://people.xiph.org/~xiphmont/demo/neil-young.html Mnyb's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4143 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=106707 ___ unix mailing list unix@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/unix
Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] Choice of basic LInux OS for LMS
Hi :D I'm actually using CENTOS 7 from couple of months and till date, everything is fine. isabelbrooks's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=66568 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=106707 ___ unix mailing list unix@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/unix
Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] Choice of basic LInux OS for LMS
mherger wrote: > >> Then you better stay away from distributions which try to be on the > >> bleeding edge. HREL/CentOS certainly is one of them. Debian is > another > >> one. > >> > > > > Are you saying you RHEL/CentOS and Debian try to stay on the bleeding > > edge or you would recommend them becuase they don't ? > > Oops I'm sorry for the confusion. No, I wanted to say they were of > the other, stable flavor. Thanks for clearing that up :) *Players:* SliMP3,Squeezebox3 x3,Receiver,SqueezePlayer,PiCorePlayer x3,Wandboard *Server:* LMS Version: 7.9.0 - 1475786002 on Centos 7 VM on ESXi 6 on Dell T320 *Plugins:* AutoRescan/BBCiPlayer/PowerSave/PowerSwitchIII/Squeezecloud *Remotes:* iPeng8/Orangesqueeze/PC/Jivelite *Music:* 383GB,1269 albums 17756 songs 4381 artists mostly FLACs *Want a webapp ?* See http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?104305-Webapp-for-LMS Jeff07971's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=49290 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=106707 ___ unix mailing list unix@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/unix
Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] Choice of basic LInux OS for LMS
Thanks Drmatt Thats what I thought ! *Players:* SliMP3,Squeezebox3 x3,Receiver,SqueezePlayer,PiCorePlayer x3,Wandboard *Server:* LMS Version: 7.9.0 - 1475786002 on Centos 7 VM on ESXi 6 on Dell T320 *Plugins:* AutoRescan/BBCiPlayer/PowerSave/PowerSwitchIII/Squeezecloud *Remotes:* iPeng8/Orangesqueeze/PC/Jivelite *Music:* 383GB,1269 albums 17756 songs 4381 artists mostly FLACs *Want a webapp ?* See http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?104305-Webapp-for-LMS Jeff07971's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=49290 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=106707 ___ unix mailing list unix@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/unix
Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] Choice of basic LInux OS for LMS
Jeff07971 wrote: > Hi Michael > > Are you saying you RHEL/CentOS and Debian try to stay on the bleeding > edge or you would recommend them becuase they don't ? The latter. They are all known for being way behind the curve and seeking pure stability instead of the latest feature set. Ubuntu LTS is less appealing from this POV; despite being a "long term support" version it still jumps ahead of debian/stable. That said, Ubuntu makes installation of a debian-like OS a breeze, where installing debian itself is much less newbie-friendly. -- Hardware: 3x Touch, 1x Radio, 2x Receivers, 1 HP Microserver NAS with Debian+LMS 7.9.0 Music: ~1300 CDs, as 450 GB of 16/44k FLACs. No less than 3x 24/44k albums.. drmatt's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=59498 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=106707 ___ unix mailing list unix@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/unix
Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] Choice of basic LInux OS for LMS
>> Then you better stay away from distributions which try to be on the >> bleeding edge. HREL/CentOS certainly is one of them. Debian is another >> one. >> > > Are you saying you RHEL/CentOS and Debian try to stay on the bleeding > edge or you would recommend them becuase they don't ? Oops I'm sorry for the confusion. No, I wanted to say they were of the other, stable flavor. ___ unix mailing list unix@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/unix
Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] Choice of basic LInux OS for LMS
mherger wrote: > > Then you better stay away from distributions which try to be on the > bleeding edge. HREL/CentOS certainly is one of them. Debian is another > one. > Hi Michael Are you saying you RHEL/CentOS and Debian try to stay on the bleeding edge or you would recommend them becuase they don't ? *Players:* SliMP3,Squeezebox3 x3,Receiver,SqueezePlayer,PiCorePlayer x3,Wandboard *Server:* LMS Version: 7.9.0 - 1475786002 on Centos 7 VM on ESXi 6 on Dell T320 *Plugins:* AutoRescan/BBCiPlayer/PowerSave/PowerSwitchIII/Squeezecloud *Remotes:* iPeng8/Orangesqueeze/PC/Jivelite *Music:* 383GB,1269 albums 17756 songs 4381 artists mostly FLACs *Want a webapp ?* See http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?104305-Webapp-for-LMS Jeff07971's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=49290 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=106707 ___ unix mailing list unix@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/unix
Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] Choice of basic LInux OS for LMS
Perl creep ? :D just want to aviod the "does not work at all" that happens to many using very current distros that exceeds LMS perl versions . Then you better stay away from distributions which try to be on the bleeding edge. HREL/CentOS certainly is one of them. Debian is another one. So is for example Debian 7 based systems OK with the LMS perl version ? same for corresponding RHEL based system ? Yes, I'm pretty sure that should be fine. Just resist the temptation to switch to their testing or dev branches, as you'd give up all of the stability you are looking for. And I'm not talking about stability like not crashing, but rather stability in system configuration, program versions etc. That's what these distributions are known for. Some Ubuntu LTS version might offer similar stability. And never update day 0 of a release anyway :-) -- Michael ___ unix mailing list unix@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/unix
Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] Choice of basic LInux OS for LMS
drmatt wrote: > You don't want much, huh? :) > > I'm a fan of dpkg and apt-get myself, so I generally suggest a > debian/Ubuntu variant. You will never get away from Perl version creep > however. Ubuntu has a server version, and the repos are stuffed full of > good stuff so there's little messing about required. I'd go that way. Yes I'm familar with debian/ubunto i use a Linux mint desktop and openmediavault NAS as a VM so i already have two debian based systems . However my current LMS server is RHEL based . Perl creep ? :D just want to aviod the "does not work at all" that happens to many using very current distros that exceeds LMS perl versions . So is for example Debian 7 based systems OK with the LMS perl version ? same for corresponding RHEL based system ? So if you gentlemen suggests distros , any knowledge about the perl version compatibility is very appreciated Thanks for the responses so far Main hifi: Touch + CIA PS +MeridianG68J MeridianHD621 MeridianG98DH 2 x MeridianDSP5200 MeridianDSP5200HC 2 xMeridianDSP3100 +Rel Stadium 3 sub. Bedroom/Office: Boom Kitchen: Touch + powered Fostex PM0.4 Misc use: Radio (with battery) iPad1 with iPengHD & SqueezePad (spares Touch, SB3, reciever ,controller ) server HP proliant micro server N36L with ClearOS Linux http://people.xiph.org/~xiphmont/demo/neil-young.html Mnyb's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4143 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=106707 ___ unix mailing list unix@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/unix
Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] Choice of basic LInux OS for LMS
Mnyb wrote: > Choice of basic LInux OS for LMS ? > > Any preference ? > > I want to avoid: > > Unsuported perl versions. > > Unsolved dependencies that needs me to install exotic stuff thats not in > any repo add symlinks compile stuff etc hunt down cpan and extra perl > thingys... > Bad support for popular plugins. > SSL problems , i had to solve that for my current OS . > > Good to have : > > Good media codec support . > Firewall in Linux that you actually understands how to configure . > Excellent package system . > Fast, reasonably lean on resources not bloated ,but not as bare bones > that nothing works . > Good forums and genral support. > Possibly a ligthweigth desktop unless i chose to have it headless as > usual. > > If headless without GUI and only a web-UI for admin make it very capable > eb-UI that actually works and lets you fix stuff (the firewall tool in > my current distro does not really work ) > ... > I assume you guys and gals now more than me and appreciate good > suggestions . You don't want much, huh? :) I'm a fan of dpkg and apt-get myself, so I generally suggest a debian/Ubuntu variant. You will never get away from Perl version creep however. Ubuntu has a server version, and the repos are stuffed full of good stuff so there's little messing about required. I'd go that way. -- Hardware: 3x Touch, 1x Radio, 2x Receivers, 1 HP Microserver NAS with Debian+LMS 7.9.0 Music: ~1300 CDs, as 450 GB of 16/44k FLACs. No less than 3x 24/44k albums.. drmatt's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=59498 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=106707 ___ unix mailing list unix@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/unix
Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] Choice of basic LInux OS for LMS
Mnyb wrote: > PS,what kind of ram and CPU etc are you giving your VM ? I give it quite a lot but thats becuase I can, It never really uses much at all. This server does my DHCP, DNS (With adblocker), Mail (IMAP,SMTP and Webmail), SAMBA, HTTP (5 VS's) and LMS. 2177121772 Going to update my Webmin now ! +---+ |Filename: ESXi.jpg | |Download: http://forums.slimdevices.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=21772| +---+ *Players:* SliMP3,Squeezebox3 x3,Receiver,SqueezePlayer,PiCorePlayer x3,Wandboard *Server:* LMS Version: 7.9.0 - 1475786002 on Centos 7 VM on ESXi 6 on Dell T320 *Plugins:* AutoRescan/BBCiPlayer/PowerSave/PowerSwitchIII/Squeezecloud *Remotes:* iPeng8/Orangesqueeze/PC/Jivelite *Music:* 383GB,1269 albums 17756 songs 4381 artists mostly FLACs *Want a webapp ?* See http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?104305-Webapp-for-LMS Jeff07971's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=49290 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=106707 ___ unix mailing list unix@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/unix
Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] Choice of basic LInux OS for LMS
Jeff07971 wrote: > My vote would be CentOS 7 > > Mine runs LMS VERY reliably with only a few tweaks > > Mine runs on ESXi 6.5 and have in the past ESXi 5.0 5.5 6.0 and 6.0U2 > > Not sure about multimedia support, I've never had any problems > > Not that lightweight but not hungry on resources > > I use Webmin and Usermin for configs > > Firewalld works well and is relativly esy to configure > > Only (slight) problem might be SELinux but can be disabled or set to > "permissive" > > And of course you have all the support of Redhat users as well > > PS I can give you a script to get it all up and running if you'd like to > try it PS,what kind of ram and CPU etc are you giving your VM ? Main hifi: Touch + CIA PS +MeridianG68J MeridianHD621 MeridianG98DH 2 x MeridianDSP5200 MeridianDSP5200HC 2 xMeridianDSP3100 +Rel Stadium 3 sub. Bedroom/Office: Boom Kitchen: Touch + powered Fostex PM0.4 Misc use: Radio (with battery) iPad1 with iPengHD & SqueezePad (spares Touch, SB3, reciever ,controller ) server HP proliant micro server N36L with ClearOS Linux http://people.xiph.org/~xiphmont/demo/neil-young.html Mnyb's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4143 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=106707 ___ unix mailing list unix@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/unix
Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] Choice of basic LInux OS for LMS
Jeff07971 wrote: > My vote would be CentOS 7 > > Mine runs LMS VERY reliably with only a few tweaks > > Mine runs on ESXi 6.5 and have in the past ESXi 5.0 5.5 6.0 and 6.0U2 > > Not sure about multimedia support, I've never had any problems > > Not that lightweight but not hungry on resources > > I use Webmin and Usermin for configs > > Firewalld works well and is relativly esy to configure > > Only (slight) problem might be SELinux but can be disabled or set to > "permissive" > > And of course you have all the support of Redhat users as well > > PS I can give you a script to get it all up and running if you'd like to > try it Thankyou , CentOS7 noted . I'm used to install the rpm package with my currrent setup. Main hifi: Touch + CIA PS +MeridianG68J MeridianHD621 MeridianG98DH 2 x MeridianDSP5200 MeridianDSP5200HC 2 xMeridianDSP3100 +Rel Stadium 3 sub. Bedroom/Office: Boom Kitchen: Touch + powered Fostex PM0.4 Misc use: Radio (with battery) iPad1 with iPengHD & SqueezePad (spares Touch, SB3, reciever ,controller ) server HP proliant micro server N36L with ClearOS Linux http://people.xiph.org/~xiphmont/demo/neil-young.html Mnyb's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4143 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=106707 ___ unix mailing list unix@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/unix
Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] Choice of basic LInux OS for LMS
My vote would be CentOS 7 Mine runs LMS VERY reliably with only a few tweaks Mine runs on ESXi 6.5 and have in the past ESXi 5.0 5.5 6.0 and 6.0U2 Not sure about multimedia support, I've never had any problems Not that lightweight but not hungry on resources I use Webmin and Usermin for configs Firewalld works well and is relativly esy to configure Only (slight) problem might be SELinux but can be disabled or set to "permissive" And of course you have all the support of Redhat users as well *Players:* SliMP3,Squeezebox3 x3,Receiver,SqueezePlayer,PiCorePlayer x3,Wandboard *Server:* LMS Version: 7.9.0 - 1475786002 on Centos 7 VM on ESXi 6 on Dell T320 *Plugins:* AutoRescan/BBCiPlayer/PowerSave/PowerSwitchIII/Squeezecloud *Remotes:* iPeng8/Orangesqueeze/PC/Jivelite *Music:* 383GB,1269 albums 17756 songs 4381 artists mostly FLACs *Want a webapp ?* See http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?104305-Webapp-for-LMS Jeff07971's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=49290 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=106707 ___ unix mailing list unix@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/unix
[SlimDevices: Unix] Choice of basic LInux OS for LMS
Choice of basic LInux OS for LMS ? Any preference ? I want to avoid: Unsuported perl versions. Unsolved dependencies that needs me to install exotic stuff thats not in any repo add symlinks compile stuff etc hunt down cpan and extra perl thingys... Bad support for popular plugins. SSL problems , i had to solve that for my current OS . Good to have : Good media codec support . Firewall in Linux that you actually understands how to configure . Excellent package system . Fast, reasonably lean on resources not bloated ,but not as bare bones that nothing works . Good forums and genral support. Possibly a ligthweigth desktop unless i chose to have it headless as usual. If headless without GUI and only a web-UI for admin make it very capable eb-UI that actually works and lets you fix stuff (the firewall tool in my current distro does not really work ) Undecided if i want it to have a desktop or not . My current headless Linux box is fast and lean and works nice with just 1gb of ram. ..But to adjust every mundane thing there is a web-UI or SSH that’s it (it's an obscure os, ClearOS ) But could be cool to learn how use remote desktops etc in linux. But a simple linux server with a good web admin tool is also ok. The thing will run in a VM on a NUC5i5RYH with ESXi its i5 with 32GB of ram (intention is to learn something about running VM's with VM vare ESXi) The VM will be on an internal fast M2 256GB SSD the machine has another 2,5" 1TB SSD. ON the same Host I will have a NAS running as a VM. I assume you guys and gals now more than me and appreciate good suggestions . Main hifi: Touch + CIA PS +MeridianG68J MeridianHD621 MeridianG98DH 2 x MeridianDSP5200 MeridianDSP5200HC 2 xMeridianDSP3100 +Rel Stadium 3 sub. Bedroom/Office: Boom Kitchen: Touch + powered Fostex PM0.4 Misc use: Radio (with battery) iPad1 with iPengHD & SqueezePad (spares Touch, SB3, reciever ,controller ) server HP proliant micro server N36L with ClearOS Linux http://people.xiph.org/~xiphmont/demo/neil-young.html Mnyb's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4143 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=106707 ___ unix mailing list unix@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/unix
