Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] Does piCorePlayer 3.22 work on the Raspberry Pi 3B+?

2018-04-13 Thread Jeff07971

mherger wrote: 
> Just a quick warning wrt. the 3B+ power consumption: it draws more power
> 
> than the 3B. I did a drop-in replacement of an existing 3B with the 3B+,
> 
> using the same power supply, cable, SD card. At some point I noticed I'd
> 
> get the little flash in the upper right corner, warning about 
> under-voltage or whatever. I didn't pay much attention until I came to 
> realise that the LMS update would crash, likely due to too high power 
> consumption. Much to my surprise the limiting factor wasn't the power 
> supply (iPhone charger), but the cable! Replaced the cable with one of 
> those nice, bright yellow UE charging cables, and voilà ! The LMS update
> 
> succeeded, and no more yellow flash.
> 
> -- 
> 
> Michael

Yup, thinner/longer cables have higher voltage drops at higher currents.

Have experienced this a few times

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Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] Does piCorePlayer 3.22 work on the Raspberry Pi 3B+?

2018-04-13 Thread Michael Herger
Just a quick warning wrt. the 3B+ power consumption: it draws more power 
than the 3B. I did a drop-in replacement of an existing 3B with the 3B+, 
using the same power supply, cable, SD card. At some point I noticed I'd 
get the little flash in the upper right corner, warning about 
under-voltage or whatever. I didn't pay much attention until I came to 
realise that the LMS update would crash, likely due to too high power 
consumption. Much to my surprise the limiting factor wasn't the power 
supply (iPhone charger), but the cable! Replaced the cable with one of 
those nice, bright yellow UE charging cables, and voilà! The LMS update 
succeeded, and no more yellow flash.


--

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Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] Does piCorePlayer 3.22 work on the Raspberry Pi 3B+?

2018-03-24 Thread kiffsta

mherger wrote: 
> In case you missed the announcement:
> http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=108852

If only all prayers got answered that quickly!. That is just fantastic,
you people are so awesomely on it. Thank you very much guys im so
looking forward to setting up later today.

best wishes:)



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Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] Does piCorePlayer 3.22 work on the Raspberry Pi 3B+?

2018-03-24 Thread mherger

kiffsta wrote: 
> Plus 1 here on the eagerly awaiting v3.5 release. Just bought the new B+
> and a hifiberry to transition my LMS server/player setup too. 
> At least I know why I can`t get 3.22 to work on it then!

In case you missed the announcement:
http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=108852



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Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] Does piCorePlayer 3.22 work on the Raspberry Pi 3B+?

2018-03-24 Thread kiffsta

Plus 1 here on the eagerly awaiting v3.5 release. Just bought the new B+
and a hifiberry to transition my LMS server/player setup too. 
At least I know why I can`t get 3.22 to work on it then!



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Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] Does piCorePlayer 3.22 work on the Raspberry Pi 3B+?

2018-03-23 Thread Howard Passman

Good for you. I'm sure 3.50 will be wonderful. I have had so much fun
and success with pCP and RPI's. I've got one player with a touch screen,
one as a player+DAC and one as a server. The only Logitech player I
still use with any frequency is my Transporter.

Howard


Zomby Woof wrote: 
> Glad to trip over this thread! I use Daphile as a server/source but  am
> new to picoreplayer and jumped right in and bought the latest and
> greatest RPi I should have known better.
> I am anxiously awaiting this release, even in beta.



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Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] Does piCorePlayer 3.22 work on the Raspberry Pi 3B+?

2018-03-23 Thread Zomby Woof

Glad to trip over this thread! I use Daphile as a server/source but  am
new to picoreplayer and jumped right in and bought the latest and
greatest RPi I should have known better.
I am anxiously awaiting this release, even in beta.



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Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] Does piCorePlayer 3.22 work on the Raspberry Pi 3B+?

2018-03-22 Thread Howard Passman

The excitement is killing me.

Thanks Michael,

Howard


mherger wrote: 
> > Did I misunderstand about pcp working with the model 3 B+? I tried it
> > and other than the rainbow colors coming up, nothing else happens
> using
> > 3.22.
> 
> You'll need the upcoming 3.50
> 
> -- 
> 
> Michael



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Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] Does piCorePlayer 3.22 work on the Raspberry Pi 3B+?

2018-03-22 Thread Michael Herger

Did I misunderstand about pcp working with the model 3 B+? I tried it
and other than the rainbow colors coming up, nothing else happens using
3.22.


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Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] Does piCorePlayer 3.22 work on the Raspberry Pi 3B+?

2018-03-22 Thread Jeff07971

Howard Passman wrote: 
> Thanks. Where do you find that download. Google'd it to no avail.
> 
> Howard

You won't its "pre-release"



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Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] Does piCorePlayer 3.22 work on the Raspberry Pi 3B+?

2018-03-22 Thread Howard Passman

Thanks. Where do you find that download. Google'd it to no avail.

Howard


Jeff07971 wrote: 
> Quote from Mherger



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Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] Does piCorePlayer 3.22 work on the Raspberry Pi 3B+?

2018-03-22 Thread Jeff07971

Howard Passman wrote: 
> Hi Michael,
> 
> Did I misunderstand about pcp working with the model 3 B+? I tried it
> and other than the rainbow colors coming up, nothing else happens using
> 3.22.
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Howard

Qoute from Mherger
>  I used a pCP pre-release 3.5.0 for the Pis



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Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] Does piCorePlayer 3.22 work on the Raspberry Pi 3B+?

2018-03-22 Thread Howard Passman

Hi Michael,

Did I misunderstand about pcp working with the model 3 B+? I tried it
and other than the rainbow colors coming up, nothing else happens using
3.22.

Thanks,

Howard


mherger wrote: 
> FWIW: I run a little test of Raspberry 2B, 3B, 3B+, and Rock64 (4GB,
> 32GB emmc), connected to my aging Linux server. I used a pCP pre-release
> 3.5.0 for the Pis, Debian (Jessie Minimal) on Rock64. Cache stored
> locally on Sandisk Ultra 16GB (Pi) or the emmc module on the Rock64. All
> connected using Gb Ethernet, configured to use my Music And Artist
> Information plugin:
> 
> RASPBERRY PI 2B
> 24758
> 
> RASPBERRY PI 3B
> 24760
> 
> RASPBERRY PI 3B+
> 24759
> 
> ROCK64
> 24761
> 
> (Screenshots are in German, but I bet you get the numbers :-))
> 
> Disappointed by the Rock64's performance I run another full scan. But
> that was even slower... Only the "Optimization" (last step), which
> probably is heaviest on local I/O, was a clear winner for the Rock64.
> 
> This q'n'd test would indeed show better performance of the 3B+. Whether
> it's worth the upgrade price tag I'll leave to you.
> 
> (and to answer the initial question: yes, pCP will work fine on the 3B+
> :-))



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Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] Does piCorePlayer 3.22 work on the Raspberry Pi 3B+?

2018-03-20 Thread Howard Passman

Yay!!!

(and to answer the initial question: yes, pCP will work fine on the 3B+
:-))



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Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] Does piCorePlayer 3.22 work on the Raspberry Pi 3B+?

2018-03-20 Thread mherger

FWIW: I run a little test of Raspberry 2B, 3B, 3B+, and Rock64 (4GB,
32GB emmc), connected to my aging Linux server. I used a pCP pre-release
3.5.0 for the Pis, Debian (Jessie Minimal) on Rock64. Cache stored
locally on Sandisk Ultra 16GB (Pi) or the emmc module on the Rock64. All
connected using Gb Ethernet, configured to use my Music And Artist
Information plugin:

RASPBERRY PI 2B
24758

RASPBERRY PI 3B
24760

RASPBERRY PI 3B+
24759

ROCK64
24761

(Screenshots are in German, but I bet you get the numbers :-))

Disappointed by the Rock64's performance I run another full scan. But
that was even slower... Only the "Optimization" (last step), which
probably is heaviest on local I/O, was a clear winner for the Rock64.

This q'n'd test would indeed show better performance of the 3B+. Whether
it's worth the upgrade price tag I'll leave to you.

(and to answer the initial question: yes, pCP will work fine on the 3B+
:-))


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Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] Does piCorePlayer 3.22 work on the Raspberry Pi 3B+?

2018-03-17 Thread huxmut

I think I'm still on 2.00 on one machine and on 1.xx on another... So no
real hurry from me :D
As always, and Im certainly not the only here, many thanks to the dev
team. This is a cracker ofa little project you have. We all appreciate
your hard work :thumbsup:



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Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] Does piCorePlayer 3.22 work on the Raspberry Pi 3B+?

2018-03-16 Thread Greg Erskine

huxmut wrote: 
> Can we have it as an alpha/beta ??
> And adding some manners - please and thank you 
> :)

LOL. We are already up to beta 12! Lots of unforeseen things have
happened



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Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] Does piCorePlayer 3.22 work on the Raspberry Pi 3B+?

2018-03-16 Thread huxmut

paul- wrote: 
> ...We could release pCP 3.5.0 without support, But I'm leaning towards
> holding the release until we get the changes for the 3B+ made.

Can we have it as an alpha/beta ??



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Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] Does piCorePlayer 3.22 work on the Raspberry Pi 3B+?

2018-03-15 Thread wonton

Wirrunna wrote: 
> https://www.raspberrypi.org/blog/raspberry-pi-zero-w-joins-family/

Which was released last year.



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Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] Does piCorePlayer 3.22 work on the Raspberry Pi 3B+?

2018-03-15 Thread Wirrunna

https://www.raspberrypi.org/blog/raspberry-pi-zero-w-joins-family/



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Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] Does piCorePlayer 3.22 work on the Raspberry Pi 3B+?

2018-03-15 Thread Man in a van

Paul Webster wrote: 
> Will also need to copy of this one ... which is new for this device
> bcm2710-rpi-3-b-plus.dtb
> 
> Mine should arrive tomorrow.


Just had a quick go at this, drop and drag in Windows works for some of
the files, others may need deleting first before replacement (not enough
room). I'll try tomorrow maybe.

Ronnie



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Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] Does piCorePlayer 3.22 work on the Raspberry Pi 3B+?

2018-03-15 Thread Paul Webster

paul- wrote: 
> Edit.   You will definately need new firmware for this to work
> 
> If you mount your SD card, replace the files on the boot disk with new
> versions from here:
> https://github.com/raspberrypi/firmware/tree/master/boot
> 
> Only replace the file names that match exactly.  Other files are not
> needed.

Will also need to copy of this one ... which is new for this device
bcm2710-rpi-3-b-plus.dtb

Mine should arrive tomorrow.



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Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] Does piCorePlayer 3.22 work on the Raspberry Pi 3B+?

2018-03-15 Thread epoch1970

Jeff07971 wrote: 
> I expect we'll see POE/Amp hats in the future, and hopefully passive
> cooling. The latest POE spec allows for 70W at the powered device which
> is enough for roughly 25Wpc to the speakers
> I cant really see a reason for the fan unless these are high power POE
> boards as the addon boards that exist today dont have fans.

Just to clarify, in fact that new product is a "PoE + CPU Fan" HAT. 'It
works without the Fan, but some business users use PoE for high-density
deployments (in racks)'
(https://www.raspberrypi.org/forums/viewtopic.php?p=1285559#p1285559),
so they've thrown 2 independent features into one product. The price is
still a mystery but I'm not sure it will be cheap.



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Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] Does piCorePlayer 3.22 work on the Raspberry Pi 3B+?

2018-03-14 Thread paul-

The next version of pCP will be 3.5.0 (Moving to a new numbering
scheme), which is seems that just about when we start to wrap things up,
we get hit.sourceforge, now this.

So far, I've not seen anything special drop in the RPI firmware that
would indicate that eve 3.22 would not work.   But I could see with the
new USB chipset, we might need to move from dwc_otg to dwc2 driver.  
But time will tell.  

We have hardware on the way for testing too..



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Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] Does piCorePlayer 3.22 work on the Raspberry Pi 3B+?

2018-03-14 Thread Jeff07971

I expect we'll see POE/Amp hats in the future, and hopefully passive
cooling. The latest POE spec allows for 70W at the powered device which
is enough for roughly 25Wpc to the speakers
I cant really see a reason for the fan unless these are high power POE
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Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] Does piCorePlayer 3.22 work on the Raspberry Pi 3B+?

2018-03-14 Thread epoch1970

Well of course netbooting is extremely useful in a player. The SD is the
most fragile part of a Pi, it is easy to steal or misplace. Get rid of
it and you can conceal a player almost anywhere. 
With PoE you can do away with the need for a power socket nearby.
Unfortunately that HAT seems to use a fan, so it is potentially noisy
and fragile.
They also say the new chip also includes improvements to USB booting,
perhaps having an external system entirely on USB will be safer than
before.

If all works as advertised, you could have a pCP server with one big USB
drive (LMS+music+players OSes) and wired pCP clients dotted around the
building, with a single point of install/administration. And not a
single SD to fiddle with.
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Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] Does piCorePlayer 3.22 work on the Raspberry Pi 3B+?

2018-03-14 Thread Greg Erskine

mcduman wrote: 
> i have placed an order for the new rpi and waiting for delivery. this is
> a good opportunity for the new version of pcp. is it 3.23?

Hi mcduman.

It won't be 3.23. As Paul has done most of the work I'll let him discuss
details.

regards
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Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] Does piCorePlayer 3.22 work on the Raspberry Pi 3B+?

2018-03-14 Thread Greg Erskine

Jeff07971 wrote: 
> Wondered how long it would be before someone asked ! Answer: Not long
> ;)
> 
> I can't really see the point for a player, but useful for LMS I
> suppose.
> 
> POE might be useful but the lack of external Wifi antenna still means
> horrible plastic cases :(
> 
> Jeff

LOL. I thought the same thing that's why I posted. :D Someone had to do
it!



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Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] Does piCorePlayer 3.22 work on the Raspberry Pi 3B+?

2018-03-14 Thread mcduman

i have placed an order for the new rpi and waiting for delivery. this is
a good opportunity for the new version of pcp. is it 3.23?



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Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] Does piCorePlayer 3.22 work on the Raspberry Pi 3B+?

2018-03-14 Thread sdiesel77

I'd love to hear reviews from people who compared these new Pi with Pi3
and see if they notice any difference in audio quality :cool:



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Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] Does piCorePlayer 3.22 work on the Raspberry Pi 3B+?

2018-03-14 Thread Jeff07971

Greg Erskine wrote: 
> Anybody tried running piCorePlayer on one of these?
> 
> https://www.raspberrypi.org/blog/raspberry-pi-3-model-bplus-sale-now-35/
> 
> Let us know. :D
> 
> regards
> Greg

Wondered how long it would be before someone asked ! Answer: Not long
;)

I can't really see the point for a player, but useful for LMS I
suppose.

POE might be useful but the lack of external Wifi antenna still means
horrible plastic cases :(

Jeff



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Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] Does piCorePlayer 3.22 work on the Raspberry Pi 3B+?

2018-03-14 Thread drmatt

Ooo, nice little upgrade on network bandwidth. PXE boot too, no more
crappy SD cards with a netboot setup.

Buy one anyway, I'm sure PcP will be updated with a suitable kernel
before long. :)


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[SlimDevices: Unix] Does piCorePlayer 3.22 work on the Raspberry Pi 3B+?

2018-03-14 Thread Greg Erskine

Anybody tried running piCorePlayer on one of these?

https://www.raspberrypi.org/blog/raspberry-pi-3-model-bplus-sale-now-35/

Let us know. :D

regards
Greg



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