Re: Where does survive the inventive user ?
Well I used it in a professional environment (AM Studios) for several years and nobody seemed to mention that it might seem non-professional. I have worked in 6502 and Z80 assembly for quite a while before the Mac and hypercard. HC was quite a libration from the tedium of just getting a window with a button on the screen in ZBasic and everybody was quite surprised and happy that the project got done on schedule and happily in use by the staff - so much I got a big bonus when Herb left the company. On 28 July 2011 19:40, Robert Brenstein r...@robelko.com wrote: If I recall, HyperCard was called an erector set for Mac users, not necessarily programmers, and indeed used mostly by non-professional programmers. There was also an Xcmd for Valentina -- yes, I started using Valentina database with HyperCard -- and it worked really well but Valentina was not network based then. Robert Stephen Barncard San Francisco Ca. USA more about sqb http://www.google.com/profiles/sbarncar ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Where does survive the inventive user?
Thinking about inventive users and open source software... When I first read about the Open Source movement, I though that it was a group of developers that wanted to create software in the same way that an artist creates his work: A lasting work of art that trascend time because of his many outstanding and unique qualities... Hmmm, looks like I was wrong in my first impression about Open source, but just in case: Could anyone show me these outstanding artistic qualities in Open Source software? Al -- View this message in context: http://runtime-revolution.278305.n4.nabble.com/Where-does-survive-the-inventive-user-tp3696711p3703159.html Sent from the Revolution - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Where does survive the inventive user ?
Hi Stephen, Stephen Barncard-4 wrote: Well I used it in a professional environment (AM Studios) for several years and nobody seemed to mention that it might seem non-professional. I have worked in 6502 and Z80 assembly for quite a while before the Mac and hypercard. HC was quite a libration from the tedium of just getting a window with a button on the screen in ZBasic and everybody was quite surprised and happy that the project got done on schedule and happily in use by the staff - so much I got a big bonus when Herb left the company. Nice history! Apple should have featured your use of HyperCard, back then. By the way, Herb is Herb Alpert? Al -- View this message in context: http://runtime-revolution.278305.n4.nabble.com/Where-does-survive-the-inventive-user-tp3698117p3703174.html Sent from the Revolution - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: [OT] HTML5 Amazingness
No doubt. Years and years ago when I was using SuperCard, I was developing an app called CyberRave that was designed to mimic (as best as one could at that time) the experience of being at club, hearing dance music, and seeing some simple effects on your screen (background image changes, simulated laser lights, etc). I was also doing a stint with the HI group in Apple's eWorld, and we concocted a way to hook CyberRave up to eWorld's live chat services, where special chat commands would trigger the effects on connected systems. We set up our first rave in house, got the music going, and started sending chat messages back and forth. It lasted maybe a minute before crashing. But it was awesome. One of the features in CyberRave was a video wall, where a small QuickTime movie could be made to play cloned across a 16x16 grid, or the single movie occupying the entire grid. Seeing the OKGO multi-window experience brought back fond memories of doing almost exactly the same thing around 15 years ago... Regards, Scott Rossi Creative Director Tactile Media, UX Design Recently, Phil Davis wrote: It sort of reaches the magic level for me! At some point I quit thinking, How is it doing that? and just took it in. Grinning and shaking my head. Phil Davis On 7/28/11 6:18 PM, Scott Rossi wrote: Requires Google Chrome: http://www.allisnotlo.st/ (Note: shut down all other tabs in Chrome for a better experience.) I think I actually said OMG out loud when I first saw this. Regards, Scott Rossi Creative Director Tactile Media, UX Design ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Installing iOS SDK and Xcode on Windows 7.
I may be wrong, but I am pretty sure iOS dev is limited to Mac Only. :\ -- View this message in context: http://runtime-revolution.278305.n4.nabble.com/Installing-iOS-SDK-and-Xcode-on-Windows-7-tp3702599p3703277.html Sent from the Revolution - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Behavior not working??
Bonjour Bob, Good advice! That happened to me several times when assigning behaviors from the message box, because generally I set the behavior of THIS cd to the long id etc. Not always but sometimes I think to set the behavior of cd n of stack suchstack which avoids the error ;-) André Le 28 juil. 2011 à 19:56, Bob Sneidar a écrit : I think I know what happened. I may have has a window open from the unmentioned plugin when I issued the command to set the behavior. I may have inadvertently set the behavior of the plugin's open card to that of my own button! ACK! I can simply reinstall a copy of the plugin. or set the behavior of cd n of the plugin to empty Note to everyone then, be sure you have selected what you think you have selected before willy nilly assigning behaviors. Bob NVM I removed a suspected plugin which shall remain nameless and behaviors seem to be working again. Bob Hi all. I set the behavior of a card to the long id of a button on the first card of a stack. In that button I have an openCard handler. At first it worked famously, but now when I call openCard from the message box on the card with the behavior set, I get an error that it cannot find the handler openCard. I put the behavior of the card in the message box and it is indeed set to the long ID of that button, but for whatever reason the behavior is not getting triggered. I set the behavior of the card to empty and then back to the behavior of the button, but no joy. Any ideas? Bob ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: memory, buffered images and closed stacks (and groups?)
1) Set the 'destroyStack' property of the stack to true. WHen it closes, it should be purged from memory. 2) Issue the delete stack stackname command, but BE CAREFUL!!! - if stackname is a *substack*, the stack will ACTUALLY BE DELETED; if the stack is a *mainstack*, it will close the stack and remove it from memory. (I tend to use something like if the mainstack of stack = the short name of stack then delete stack stack.) The way you can test is to look at the mainstacks if the name of the stack is no longer in the mainstacks, then it has been closed and purged from memory. Thanks Ken. Tried your suggestions. The game stack doesn't appear in the mainstacks, its destroyStack is true, and I do a delete stack even though mainstacks doesn't list the game stack. And yet, memory values after the game stack has been confirmed as closed are 2000 to 3000 K larger than when the game stack was first opened. So, I'm still wondering if this memory discrepancy is connected to my stack crashing immediately before using the command group after the game stack has been re-opened. -- Nicolas Cueto ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Installing iOS SDK and Xcode on Windows 7.
I may be wrong, but I am pretty sure iOS dev is limited to Mac Only. :\ They are running the tools in a virtual machine so as far as the software is aware it is running on a Mac.. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Where does survive the inventive user ?
Yep. We wrote the first XCMD/Xtra for TCP/IP for Director. It was called XtraNet. Macromedia tried to buy it from us. On Thu, Jul 28, 2011 at 5:51 PM, stephen barncard stephenrevoluti...@barncard.com wrote: I know, I tried to do it myself in the early 90s. TCP/IP on the mac was quite unreliable. On 28 July 2011 15:00, Chipp Walters ch...@chipp.com wrote: Let's not forget, HC was a TCP/IP stack away from BEING a first browser ( http://www.isegoria.net/2008/05/hypercard-what-could-have-been/), so I'm don't think it could happen again-- though of course I would be rooting for it! Stephen Barncard San Francisco Ca. USA more about sqb http://www.google.com/profiles/sbarncar ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode -- Chipp Walters CEO, Shafer Walters Group, Inc. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
AW: AW: OT: I want to buy Lion
Thanks Pete, that's what I tried to say Tiemo -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: use-livecode-boun...@lists.runrev.com [mailto:use-livecode- boun...@lists.runrev.com] Im Auftrag von Pete Haworth Gesendet: Donnerstag, 28. Juli 2011 19:02 An: How to use LiveCode Betreff: Re: AW: OT: I want to buy Lion This is not about people who do not want to upgrade, it's about people who do want to upgrade, are willing to pay, need to support the users of their applications, but cannot because of Apple's upgrade methodology. Sounds like they will provide a hard copy method to upgrade eventually. Pete ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Installing iOS SDK and Xcode on Windows 7.
Would LiveCode for iOS work in such an environment? On Fri, Jul 29, 2011 at 05:14, Shao Sean shaos...@wehostmacs.com wrote: I may be wrong, but I am pretty sure iOS dev is limited to Mac Only. :\ They are running the tools in a virtual machine so as far as the software is aware it is running on a Mac.. __**_ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/**mailman/listinfo/use-livecodehttp://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Is Apple going to allow this?
Hi William, I've heard about apps that have been rejected because pictures of iPhones were included. Apple may not accept any picture of an existing device, be it phone, computer, monitor, or bicycle. I'd use a picture that's clearly drawn rather than photographed and doesn't resemble a device of any existing brand. Then again... with Apple you never know. Just try it, the worst case scenario is only an additional week's delay due to a rejection. -- Best regards, Mark Schonewille Economy-x-Talk Consulting and Software Engineering Homepage: http://economy-x-talk.com Twitter: http://twitter.com/xtalkprogrammer KvK: 50277553 What does that error mean? Buy LiveCodeErrors for iPhone now http://qery.us/v4 A must-have for LiveCode programmers. On 29 jul 2011, at 13:57, William de Smet wrote: Hi there, I am thinking of using an iMac (with no Apple logo) vector image in the splash screen of my first iOS app. Is Apple going to allow this? Or is it better to you use a more 'standard' monitor? Greetings, William ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: [OT] HTML5 Amazingness
OK Go has the best music videos... for those not familiar check out http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qybUFnY7Y8w :-) this google chrome experience with them is incredible :-) On Fri, Jul 29, 2011 at 3:41 AM, Scott Rossi sc...@tactilemedia.com wrote: No doubt. Years and years ago when I was using SuperCard, I was developing an app called CyberRave that was designed to mimic (as best as one could at that time) the experience of being at club, hearing dance music, and seeing some simple effects on your screen (background image changes, simulated laser lights, etc). I was also doing a stint with the HI group in Apple's eWorld, and we concocted a way to hook CyberRave up to eWorld's live chat services, where special chat commands would trigger the effects on connected systems. We set up our first rave in house, got the music going, and started sending chat messages back and forth. It lasted maybe a minute before crashing. But it was awesome. One of the features in CyberRave was a video wall, where a small QuickTime movie could be made to play cloned across a 16x16 grid, or the single movie occupying the entire grid. Seeing the OKGO multi-window experience brought back fond memories of doing almost exactly the same thing around 15 years ago... Regards, Scott Rossi Creative Director Tactile Media, UX Design Recently, Phil Davis wrote: It sort of reaches the magic level for me! At some point I quit thinking, How is it doing that? and just took it in. Grinning and shaking my head. Phil Davis On 7/28/11 6:18 PM, Scott Rossi wrote: Requires Google Chrome: http://www.allisnotlo.st/ (Note: shut down all other tabs in Chrome for a better experience.) I think I actually said OMG out loud when I first saw this. Regards, Scott Rossi Creative Director Tactile Media, UX Design ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode -- http://www.andregarzia.com All We Do Is Code. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
[ANN] LiveCode.tv event #34
Tomorrows event will be of reduced scope due to a lack of volunteers. All applicants welcome. I will introduce the release of BvG Docu 2. Join chatrev at 20:00 CET. Go to http://bjoernke.com/chatrev/ or enter in the message box: go stack URL “http://bjoernke.com/chatrev/chatrev1.3b3.rev” Sat. 22:00 Moscow Sat. 14:00 New York Sat. 11:00 Los Angeles Sun. 2:00 Beijing See http://livecode.tv/ for more info. Mail me to do your presentation, it doesn't matter if you do one in 4 months or right now. Björnke ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: [ANN] LiveCode.tv event #34
Hi, Björnke. I sent a mail from my phone earlier, but it was acting a bit wierd, so I don't know if it really sent. I can present tomorrow if still required. John. On 29/07/2011 13:57, Björnke von Gierke wrote: Tomorrows event will be of reduced scope due to a lack of volunteers. All applicants welcome. I will introduce the release of BvG Docu 2. Join chatrev at 20:00 CET. Go to http://bjoernke.com/chatrev/ or enter in the message box: go stack URL “http://bjoernke.com/chatrev/chatrev1.3b3.rev” Sat. 22:00 Moscow Sat. 14:00 New York Sat. 11:00 Los Angeles Sun. 2:00 Beijing See http://livecode.tv/ for more info. Mail me to do your presentation, it doesn't matter if you do one in 4 months or right now. Björnke ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: [ANN] LiveCode.tv event #34
yes, i got it, answered offlist. On 29 Jul 2011, at 15:54, John Craig wrote: Hi, Björnke. I sent a mail from my phone earlier, but it was acting a bit wierd, so I don't know if it really sent. I can present tomorrow if still required. John. On 29/07/2011 13:57, Björnke von Gierke wrote: Tomorrows event will be of reduced scope due to a lack of volunteers. All applicants welcome. I will introduce the release of BvG Docu 2. Join chatrev at 20:00 CET. Go to http://bjoernke.com/chatrev/ or enter in the message box: go stack URL “http://bjoernke.com/chatrev/chatrev1.3b3.rev” Sat. 22:00 Moscow Sat. 14:00 New York Sat. 11:00 Los Angeles Sun. 2:00 Beijing See http://livecode.tv/ for more info. Mail me to do your presentation, it doesn't matter if you do one in 4 months or right now. Björnke ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: [OT] HTML5 Amazingness
Andre Garzia wrote: OK Go has the best music videos... for those not familiar check out http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qybUFnY7Y8w :-) My friend and neighbor worked on the crew for that video, one of the happy cheering faces in the loft above the band near the end. The pile of smashed TVs in the background barely tells the story of how difficult it was to make; more telling is the exhausted look on the band members' faces. IIRC he told me that the final take we see in that video happened around 3:30AM after many dozens of takes, each one requiring all of the elements to be reset (note the amount of paint on their splash suits at the start of the video). As much as I appreciate the technical flourish of the Chrome app, I'm even more impressed by the low-tech Rube Goldberg machine they set up for that video. Now *that's* ingenuity. -- Richard Gaskin Fourth World LiveCode training and consulting: http://www.fourthworld.com Webzine for LiveCode developers: http://www.LiveCodeJournal.com LiveCode Journal blog: http://LiveCodejournal.com/blog.irv ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Installing iOS SDK and Xcode on Windows 7.
On Fri, Jul 29, 2011 at 4:14 AM, Shao Sean wrote: I may be wrong, but I am pretty sure iOS dev is limited to Mac Only. :\ They are running the tools in a virtual machine so as far as the software is aware it is running on a Mac.. True, the software would not know the difference, but the user definitely would because it would be prohibitively slow in a vm. I googled tonymac, and found that people apparently are running directly on i5 and i7 machines with the OS installed directly from purchased retail install media. Due to Apple licensing restrictions, one can't use such a system in a business, but it is quite interesting what is technically possible. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Where does survive the inventive user ?
The way was to handle TCP/IP trough MacOS 8 + WebSTAR 3 --TCP AppleEvent sockets translator -- HC 2.4.1 hand made standalone server app (via Resedit, if i right remember...). Worked in single thread mode only because the OS and HC architectures ! ... Went to Linux, Apache and Metacard cgi because those limitations and because i did't trust in the WebObjects, ColdFusion and Visual Cafe first public versions i brought... ;-) Le 29 juil. 2011 à 00:51, stephen barncard a écrit : I know, I tried to do it myself in the early 90s. TCP/IP on the mac was quite unreliable. On 28 July 2011 15:00, Chipp Walters ch...@chipp.com wrote: Let's not forget, HC was a TCP/IP stack away from BEING a first browser ( http://www.isegoria.net/2008/05/hypercard-what-could-have-been/), so I'm don't think it could happen again-- though of course I would be rooting for it! Stephen Barncard San Francisco Ca. USA more about sqb http://www.google.com/profiles/sbarncar ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode -- Pierre Sahores mobile : (33) 6 03 95 77 70 www.wrds.com www.sahores-conseil.com ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
RE: Where does survive the inventive user ?
If I recall, HyperCard was called an erector set for Mac users, not necessarily programmers, and indeed used mostly by non-professional programmers. There was also an Xcmd for Valentina -- yes, I started using Valentina database with HyperCard -- and it worked really well but Valentina was not network based then. The depths of time :-) Valentina DB started out originally as a C++ library for Mac OS back in 1998, after several years of advanced RD by Ruslan (o, CodeWarrior!). The XCMD format was so well established then, and several products on the market supported that. There were a lot of really cool externals around back then, some of which were made by folks who are here yet today. Best regards, Lynn Fredricks President Paradigma Software http://www.paradigmasoft.com Valentina SQL Server: The Ultra-fast, Royalty Free Database Server ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Installing iOS SDK and Xcode on Windows 7.
On Friday, July 29, 2011 10:09:13 AM Roger Eller wrote: it would be prohibitively slow in a vm Roger, Have you some disappointing experience running vms? My own experience running VirtualBox is that the guest OSs run quite snappily. I cannot recommend that one rely on a virtualized OS for development purposes because certain OS features are bound to be tied to hardware features that the vm won't provide. That said, for many purposes, including some kinds of testing during development, they are very usable and useful indeed. Best, Warren ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Where does survive the inventive user ?
From the archives: http://www.thefreelibrary.com/Human+Code+Unveils+XtraNet+Technology+Enabling+Shockwave+Applications...-a018567832 Chipp Walters wrote: Yep. We wrote the first XCMD/Xtra for TCP/IP for Director. It was called XtraNet. Macromedia tried to buy it from us. -- View this message in context: http://runtime-revolution.278305.n4.nabble.com/Where-does-survive-the-inventive-user-tp3698117p3704546.html Sent from the Revolution - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: A way to get LC out of the way
I do not understand exactly what you mean, but I will give it a go. It sounds like you work with a copy of a stack to update it, then replace the older copy with the newer one, but LC is remembering the older one. There is a property of a stack called destroyStack, an unfortunate name because it only destroys the copy in memory. I believe the corresponding checkbox is Purge Stack On Close. If this is unchecked, closing the stack will still leave it in memory, so that any future reference to it will reopen it. I am unsure if my understanding of what you are doing is correct, but I would reconsider how you are going about things if you are replacing one stack with another just like it. In any case, check that checkbox and see if that doesn't help. Bob On Jul 28, 2011, at 10:05 PM, Joe Lewis Wilkins wrote: Hi everyone, I'm struggling; maybe I should say fighting with LC. I have an app in which I do some things that create new cards in one of the sub-stacks. In the process of refining things I want to swap the original stack with the one that has the new cards, but LC always remembers the larger stack. After a while, I'm usually able to have the smaller one used, but it's a real effort. Have I missed some simple way of doing this. In most other programs, I would be able to just replace the large one with the small one. I can do it in this case too, but the small one is never seen. TIA, Joe Wilkins ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: [OT] HTML5 Amazingness
Le 29 juil. 2011 à 16:24, Richard Gaskin a écrit : Andre Garzia wrote: OK Go has the best music videos... for those not familiar check out http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qybUFnY7Y8w :-) My friend and neighbor worked on the crew for that video, one of the happy cheering faces in the loft above the band near the end. The pile of smashed TVs in the background barely tells the story of how difficult it was to make; more telling is the exhausted look on the band members' faces. IIRC he told me that the final take we see in that video happened around 3:30AM after many dozens of takes, each one requiring all of the elements to be reset (note the amount of paint on their splash suits at the start of the video). As much as I appreciate the technical flourish of the Chrome app, I'm even more impressed by the low-tech Rube Goldberg machine they set up for that video. Now *that's* ingenuity. and still so refreshing ;-) -- Richard Gaskin Fourth World LiveCode training and consulting: http://www.fourthworld.com Webzine for LiveCode developers: http://www.LiveCodeJournal.com LiveCode Journal blog: http://LiveCodejournal.com/blog.irv ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode -- Pierre Sahores mobile : (33) 6 03 95 77 70 www.wrds.com www.sahores-conseil.com ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: [OT] HTML5 Amazingness
Mine is stuck at 97%. PAR! Bob On Jul 28, 2011, at 6:18 PM, Scott Rossi wrote: Requires Google Chrome: http://www.allisnotlo.st/ (Note: shut down all other tabs in Chrome for a better experience.) I think I actually said OMG out loud when I first saw this. Regards, Scott Rossi Creative Director Tactile Media, UX Design ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: [OT] HTML5 Amazingness
Finally worked! Cool. On Jul 28, 2011, at 6:18 PM, Scott Rossi wrote: Requires Google Chrome: http://www.allisnotlo.st/ (Note: shut down all other tabs in Chrome for a better experience.) I think I actually said OMG out loud when I first saw this. Regards, Scott Rossi Creative Director Tactile Media, UX Design ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: A way to get LC out of the way
Thanks Bob. I had been diddling around with exactly those features when I have managed to make the substitution, but felt a little uneasy that the Destroy Stack might be messing me up in ways that I didn't realize. The name IS unfortunate as you mentioned. Actually, I have an even more exasperating trial to deal with. I want to reassemble my program using the existing stacks, but there appears to be no way to severe LC's strangle-hold on things. I'd love to be able to create a new program by dragging copies of the existing stacks over to a new folder and establishing new relationships amongst them, but LC is insistent on maintaining the old relationships. I'd like to change the standalone application settings of this new relationship. So far I have been unsuccessful; just spinning my wheels doing things over and over again. Regardless, Thanks. If anyone has a clue as to how this last approach may be accomplished I would love to hear about it. Joe Wilkins On Jul 29, 2011, at 9:25 AM, Bob Sneidar wrote: I do not understand exactly what you mean, but I will give it a go. It sounds like you work with a copy of a stack to update it, then replace the older copy with the newer one, but LC is remembering the older one. There is a property of a stack called destroyStack, an unfortunate name because it only destroys the copy in memory. I believe the corresponding checkbox is Purge Stack On Close. If this is unchecked, closing the stack will still leave it in memory, so that any future reference to it will reopen it. I am unsure if my understanding of what you are doing is correct, but I would reconsider how you are going about things if you are replacing one stack with another just like it. In any case, check that checkbox and see if that doesn't help. Bob On Jul 28, 2011, at 10:05 PM, Joe Lewis Wilkins wrote: Hi everyone, I'm struggling; maybe I should say fighting with LC. I have an app in which I do some things that create new cards in one of the sub-stacks. In the process of refining things I want to swap the original stack with the one that has the new cards, but LC always remembers the larger stack. After a while, I'm usually able to have the smaller one used, but it's a real effort. Have I missed some simple way of doing this. In most other programs, I would be able to just replace the large one with the small one. I can do it in this case too, but the small one is never seen. TIA, Joe Wilkins ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Where does survive the inventive user?
I have a saying: If everyone can do it, it's not art. And even if only a few can do it, it's still not art! Bob On Jul 29, 2011, at 9:03 AM, Pierre Sahores wrote: If we believe that technical design can be arts relevant (my case,...), sailboats, cars or information's systems can be arts relevant ;-) it's probably why the Alan's Turing works gave the binary coding paradigm to computers, because why the Linus Torwalds initiative gave us Linux, because why John Mc Carty LISP, because the elegance of PostgresQL where Oracle is just a big sad truck..., because technical skills mainly serves visions and not the inverse... Even if xtalk is not open-source, the non technical guys whose invented xtalk, Metacard and LiveCode and we, the xtalk dev community are dependent from the open-source tools we are binding to our LC solutions. It's at least my case and i'm every day graceful about this. Le 29 juil. 2011 à 08:10, Alejandro Tejada a écrit : Could anyone show me these outstanding artistic qualities in Open Source software? -- Pierre Sahores mobile : (33) 6 03 95 77 70 www.wrds.com www.sahores-conseil.com ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: [OT] More Apple Foolishness
I've been trying to refrain from some of these posts with the thought that maybe I've been to negative sounding recently... However, in light of this: snip...from iTunes (the single most frustrating and annoying app interface-wise on the whole planet on any OS) /snip Absolutely on the mark! To be tied at the hip with that one piece of software is absolutely awful and I'm doing just about all that I can to remedy that. I am so glad to know that I'm not the only one that feels that way. Best regards, David C. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: [OT] More Apple Foolishness
David C. wrote: snip...from iTunes (the single most frustrating and annoying app interface-wise on the whole planet on any OS) /snip Absolutely on the mark! To be tied at the hip with that one piece of software is absolutely awful and I'm doing just about all that I can to remedy that. I am so glad to know that I'm not the only one that feels that way. The irony here is that Apple themselves feels the same way: while iTunes may be where Apple requires you to get your apps, the iTunes app itself doesn't conform to Apple's own HIG substantially enough to allow it to be submitted to the App Store. ;) -- Richard Gaskin Fourth World LiveCode training and consulting: http://www.fourthworld.com Webzine for LiveCode developers: http://www.LiveCodeJournal.com LiveCode Journal blog: http://LiveCodejournal.com/blog.irv ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Where does survive the inventive user?
The artistry of open source may be subtle, but it's pervasive. - Sir Richard Gaskin - ;-) Le 29 juil. 2011 à 17:51, Richard Gaskin a écrit : Alejandro Tejada wrote: Thinking about inventive users and open source software... When I first read about the Open Source movement, I though that it was a group of developers that wanted to create software in the same way that an artist creates his work: A lasting work of art that trascend time because of his many outstanding and unique qualities... Hmmm, looks like I was wrong in my first impression about Open source, but just in case: Could anyone show me these outstanding artistic qualities in Open Source software? That's a very thoughtful question, Alejandro. I'm certainly no FOSS expert, and perhaps Mark Weider or David Bovill can contribute more concretely here, but that didn't stop me from writing my own offhand thoughts on this. ;) As sometimes happens during my morning coffee, that got a bit lengthy for this list, so out of respect for the readers' bandwidth here in this OT thread I posted it to the LiveCode Journal blog: http://livecodejournal.com/blog.irv?pid=1311953300.756699 -- Richard Gaskin Fourth World LiveCode training and consulting: http://www.fourthworld.com Webzine for LiveCode developers: http://www.LiveCodeJournal.com LiveCode Journal blog: http://LiveCodejournal.com/blog.irv ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode -- Pierre Sahores mobile : (33) 6 03 95 77 70 www.wrds.com www.sahores-conseil.com ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Installing iOS SDK and Xcode on Windows 7.
On Fri, Jul 29, 2011 at 12:12 PM, Warren Samples wrote: On Friday, July 29, 2011 10:09:13 AM Roger Eller wrote: it would be prohibitively slow in a vm Roger, Have you some disappointing experience running vms? My own experience running VirtualBox is that the guest OSs run quite snappily. I cannot recommend that one rely on a virtualized OS for development purposes because certain OS features are bound to be tied to hardware features that the vm won't provide. That said, for many purposes, including some kinds of testing during development, they are very usable and useful indeed. Best, Warren A few years ago, I remember seeing a video of Leopard running in a vm, maybe even Snow Leopard. It could not utilise quartz/core graphics, and the hard-drive was not a real partition, there was no 3D acceleration or access to the video card, so it made the overall system appear slow. But according to what the tonymac people are saying, it doesn't have to be this way. They seem to now have it running natively on brand new i7 machines with high-end video cards. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: [OT] More Apple Foolishness
On Friday, July 29, 2011 11:44:11 AM David C. wrote: snip...from iTunes (the single most frustrating and annoying app interface-wise on the whole planet on any OS) /snip Absolutely on the mark! To be tied at the hip with that one piece of software is absolutely awful and I'm doing just about all that I can to remedy that. I am so glad to know that I'm not the only one that feels that way. Best regards, David C. I almost never used iTunes when I ran OS X. It wasn't my preferred application for anything and I was never interested in the store. Since the vast majority of the requent updates to iTunes focused on the store, I eventually tried to get software update to ignore those updates. To no avail. Software update refused to honor that request. It was the only update that refused to be ignored. Best, Warren ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Installing iOS SDK and Xcode on Windows 7.
On Friday, July 29, 2011 12:04:49 PM Roger Eller wrote: running natively on brand new i7 machines with high-end video cards. The Hackintosh is not a great secret, and indeed there is no reason for OS X not to run beautifully on non- Apple hardware once the issues of booting and certain drivers are overcome, but the question was regarding performance within a virtual machine. I do not suffer any serious degree of slowness running any OS inside a virtual machine here. I don't particularly encourage the venture proposed by the OP, and am very disturbed by the preoccupation of the author of the article he references with avoided paying what are legitimate fees, but my experience does not support your prediction. I think the sort of statement you make presents unwarranted discouragement to those who may otherwise find virtualization a very useful and convenient tool for certain purposes. What I find most curious about the original post, is how does the OP propose to implement this if he cannot also test it? It makes me think of a post I saw the other day in a forum, Here fishy fishy... Best, Warren ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Installing iOS SDK and Xcode on Windows 7.
Warren, *What I find most curious about the original post, is how does the OP propose to implement this if he cannot also test it?* Unfortunately at the moment I cannot meet the requirementshttp://techexxpert.blogspot.com/2010/12/how-to-virtualize-os-x-on-windows-7.htmlto test the setup, for I don't have the hardware or the software to do that. That's exactly why I posted at this forum. If I come to the conclusion that the setup works, I will invest some money in hardware and software. Please notice that I did not propose to implement anything. Best regards, Hyberson On Fri, Jul 29, 2011 at 14:53, Warren Samples war...@warrensweb.us wrote: On Friday, July 29, 2011 12:04:49 PM Roger Eller wrote: running natively on brand new i7 machines with high-end video cards. The Hackintosh is not a great secret, and indeed there is no reason for OS X not to run beautifully on non- Apple hardware once the issues of booting and certain drivers are overcome, but the question was regarding performance within a virtual machine. I do not suffer any serious degree of slowness running any OS inside a virtual machine here. I don't particularly encourage the venture proposed by the OP, and am very disturbed by the preoccupation of the author of the article he references with avoided paying what are legitimate fees, but my experience does not support your prediction. I think the sort of statement you make presents unwarranted discouragement to those who may otherwise find virtualization a very useful and convenient tool for certain purposes. What I find most curious about the original post, is how does the OP propose to implement this if he cannot also test it? It makes me think of a post I saw the other day in a forum, Here fishy fishy... Best, Warren ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Behavior not working??
Le 29 juil. 2011 à 18:28, Bob Sneidar a écrit : unless the plugin itself uses behaviors, OOuuups ! yes! your are right indeed!I did not think to this possibilitty André which since I don't know, replacing is probably the best strategy. This is why I always copy downloads to their appropriate location instead of moving them. Bob On Jul 29, 2011, at 12:37 AM, André Bisseret wrote: or set the behavior of cd n of the plugin to empty ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: [OT] More Apple Foolishness
I almost never used iTunes when I ran OS X. It wasn't my preferred application for anything and I was never interested in the store. Since the vast majority of the requent updates to iTunes focused on the store, I eventually tried to get software update to ignore those updates. To no avail. Software update refused to honor that request. It was the only update that refused to be ignored. Best, Warren After trying iTunes early on, I hardly ever used it at all.. and in fact avoided it up until I purchased the original iPhone, which I still use. Now I have a ton of songs and media that I'm stuck with for the most part. Been buying nothing but MP3's from Amazon for the last year or so, but still don't want to give up all that I've invested in from Apple. Best regards, David C. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Installing iOS SDK and Xcode on Windows 7.
On Fri, Jul 29, 2011 at 1:53 PM, Warren Samples wrote: On Friday, July 29, 2011 12:04:49 PM Roger Eller wrote: running natively on brand new i7 machines with high-end video cards. The Hackintosh is not a great secret, and indeed there is no reason for OS X not to run beautifully on non- Apple hardware once the issues of booting and certain drivers are overcome... Agreed. I think the sort of statement you make presents unwarranted discouragement to those who may otherwise find virtualization a very useful and convenient tool for certain purposes. As I stated, the only vm of OS X that I have seen was 'years' ago. If it has been improved, and you find it useful, that is great news! I sincerely hope Apple someday will encourage everyone to buy a copy. I think eventually, they will. I only discourage using without paying. Best, Warren ~Roger ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
[OT] BBC: Apple holding more cash than USA
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-14340470 In light of this, imagine Steve Jobs as your benevolent dictator! Maybe he could buy the USA and save us all. yeah, right. George Orwell (Eric Arthur Blair) would have loved this. -- Stephen Barncard San Francisco Ca. USA more about sqb http://www.google.com/profiles/sbarncar ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: A way to get LC out of the way
Joe, you have run into the namespace issue. One way around it is to run *multiple instances* of Livecode. If you have ever seen any of Trevor's presentations, you will see three or four Livecode app icons at the bottom of his screens. And he has recommended this method. It was mentioned on this forum that it is possible to cut and paste between instances. The hardest thing to do would be to keep the different instances straight. You can rename the app package of some of the secondary instances but not sure if that shows up in the dock icons. On 29 July 2011 09:42, Joe Lewis Wilkins pepe...@cox.net wrote: Thanks Bob. I had been diddling around with exactly those features when I have managed to make the substitution, but felt a little uneasy that the Destroy Stack might be messing me up in ways that I didn't realize. The name IS unfortunate as you mentioned. Actually, I have an even more exasperating trial to deal with. I want to reassemble my program using the existing stacks, but there appears to be no way to severe LC's strangle-hold on things. I'd love to be able to create a new program by dragging copies of the existing stacks over to a new folder and establishing new relationships amongst them, but LC is insistent on maintaining the old relationships. I'd like to change the standalone application settings of this new relationship. So far I have been unsuccessful; just spinning my wheels doing things over and over again. Regardless, Thanks. If anyone has a clue as to how this last approach may be accomplished I would love to hear about it. Joe Wilkins On Jul 29, 2011, at 9:25 AM, Bob Sneidar wrote: I do not understand exactly what you mean, but I will give it a go. It sounds like you work with a copy of a stack to update it, then replace the older copy with the newer one, but LC is remembering the older one. There is a property of a stack called destroyStack, an unfortunate name because it only destroys the copy in memory. I believe the corresponding checkbox is Purge Stack On Close. If this is unchecked, closing the stack will still leave it in memory, so that any future reference to it will reopen it. I am unsure if my understanding of what you are doing is correct, but I would reconsider how you are going about things if you are replacing one stack with another just like it. In any case, check that checkbox and see if that doesn't help. Bob On Jul 28, 2011, at 10:05 PM, Joe Lewis Wilkins wrote: Hi everyone, I'm struggling; maybe I should say fighting with LC. I have an app in which I do some things that create new cards in one of the sub-stacks. In the process of refining things I want to swap the original stack with the one that has the new cards, but LC always remembers the larger stack. After a while, I'm usually able to have the smaller one used, but it's a real effort. Have I missed some simple way of doing this. In most other programs, I would be able to just replace the large one with the small one. I can do it in this case too, but the small one is never seen. TIA, Joe Wilkins ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode -- Stephen Barncard San Francisco Ca. USA more about sqb http://www.google.com/profiles/sbarncar ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: [OT] More Apple Foolishness
If I understand well, you will not need iTunes (or even a computer) on your iOS devices when IOS 5 will be (soon) released. After that, your mac (I am not sure about other platforms) will be at the same level as the IOS devices as far as data storage, synchronization is concerned. It was announced in the last Apple keynote, I think. Best regards, François Le 28 juil. 2011 à 18:21, J. Landman Gay a écrit : On 7/28/11 4:01 AM, Colin Holgate wrote: I hardly ever use iTunes for getting things onto my devices, What do you use? I'm tired of hooking up to iTunes for everything. In particular, I want to move test standalones to the device. -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | jac...@hyperactivesw.com HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: [OT] BBC: Apple holding more cash than USA
wrong metrics. You'd better look at China's reserves in dollars. Le 29 juil. 2011 à 21:08, stephen barncard a écrit : http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-14340470 In light of this, imagine Steve Jobs as your benevolent dictator! Maybe he could buy the USA and save us all. yeah, right. George Orwell (Eric Arthur Blair) would have loved this. -- Stephen Barncard San Francisco Ca. USA more about sqb http://www.google.com/profiles/sbarncar ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: [OT] BBC: Apple holding more cash than USA
Who's throwing the sledge hammer now Steve?? LOL ;-) As all benevolent dictators learn, they have to hurt some people to get everyone to see how great their way really is. You have to silence the detractors, especially the more successful they are. now removing tongue from cheek Bob On Jul 29, 2011, at 12:08 PM, stephen barncard wrote: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-14340470 In light of this, imagine Steve Jobs as your benevolent dictator! Maybe he could buy the USA and save us all. yeah, right. George Orwell (Eric Arthur Blair) would have loved this. -- Stephen Barncard San Francisco Ca. USA more about sqb http://www.google.com/profiles/sbarncar ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: [OT] More Apple Foolishness
On 7/29/11 3:24 PM, François Chaplais wrote: If I understand well, you will not need iTunes (or even a computer) on your iOS devices when IOS 5 will be (soon) released. After that, your mac (I am not sure about other platforms) will be at the same level as the IOS devices as far as data storage, synchronization is concerned. I have mixed feelings about putting my data in the cloud. But it doesn't matter, I've already solved it. It turns out to be pretty easy to set up your own server/wi-fi solution and I've automated it for use as a LiveCode plugin. When it is tested and prettied up a little bit I'll release it to the community. It works with any server and with Dropbox, and you don't even need to leave LiveCode to use it. Now that I've done it, I'm not surprised that there are so many similar solutions in the App Store. It took me an hour to write, anyone could do it. -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | jac...@hyperactivesw.com HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: stackfiles -- how to use?
Hi Nicolas, Coming late to the party... For an example of what 'the stackfiles' look like, open the IDE message box and type put the stackfiles of stack home Phil Davis On 7/24/11 7:42 PM, Nicolas Cueto wrote: Hello, Apologies for the length of this, but I'd very much like list help to understand better a scripting practice I've been doing half-baked for a long time now. It has to do with stackFiles (I think?), the steps for implementing which I describe below, but first precede with an outline of what I'm after. Essentially, this is the structure of my standalone and stacks: AllMightyStack.exe -- Index-stack.livecode -- gamestacks1-8.livecode The role of AllMightyStack.exe: -- opens up Index-stack.livecode -- stays open but hidden in background -- (most importantly!) contains handlers/functions and global variables -- but no controls/objects -- that can be called by the index-stack and each of the gamestacks simply by name (ie, without having to specify a path) The role of Index-stack.rev: -- shows the user some buttons, clicking which opens up one of the various gamestacks -- stays open but hidden in background, so that, when a gamestack is done with, the user returns to Index-stack to either choose a different gamestack or quit -- does not contain handlers or controls referenced to by any other stack To do the above, here are my steps: STEP 1) place the following script in card 1 of AllMightyStack.exe: on openCard setUpFoundation end openCard on setUpFoundation put Index-stack,Index-stack.rev cr game1,game1.rev cr \ game2,game2.rev cr cr animationEngine,animationEngine.rev \ into tStackFiles set the stackFiles of stack Mainstack.exe to tStackFiles ... open stack Index-stack hide stack Mainstack end setUpFoundation STEP 2) in Livecode open the property-inspector for stack AllMightyStack.rev and then in the Stack files panel add Index-Stack and all the game-stacks. After which, I save as a standalone. STEP 3) repeat the above two steps for Index-stack.rev Anyway, I'm guessing I don't need to do STEP 3. But now I'm also guessing STEP 2 is superfluous. Or is it? Of course, I've read the documentation. But... Hope that all makes sense. Thank you -- for your help and forbearance. -- Nicolas Cueto ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode -- Phil Davis PDS Labs Professional Software Development http://pdslabs.net ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
iRev mySQL and a Revdberr?
Hi All! I have a basic insert mysql query in an irev file. It manages to insert the new record but it returns a revdberr too. The table consists of 5 fields with the last field auto-updated incrementally. put INSERT INTO opentrades (sendtoid, traderid, traderitem, tradeeitem) VALUES ( ' tTradeeID ' , ' tPlayerID ' , ' tMyItem ' , ' tTheirItem ' ) into tSQL It works but still returns the short revdberr message... I have another irev file, and update, that does the same kind of thing. It works, but returns an error. put UPDATE location SET xcoord=' txcoord ', ycoord=' tycoord ' WHERE id=' tTargetID ' into tSQL Anything jump out a miss? Wondering why it would be a successful query either creating a new record or updating and existing record but still return an error??? Thank you! John Patten SUSD ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
EMERGENCY - File Browser not showing up in IE and other idiosyncracies with the Revlet Player
In my cards and scripts in Live Code, loading files work fine by pressing the BROWSE button (I made a button for each upload and labelled it BROWSE). You click it and a file box comes up with the proper filters. Everything works great! However, when using the same card on the internet (a revlet), pressing the BROWSE button does nothing. Is there some special procedure or syntax I have to follow to use file requesters from a revlet? Here is my code: = # Start by getting the file to upload local tFileForUpload, tFileName answer file Select a file to upload with filter Video Files,*.avi;*.mpg;*.mp4;*.mov;*.wmv put it into tFileForUpload # Get the name of the file for upload set the itemdel to / put the last item of tFileForUpload into tFileName put empty into field fldVidLink # Connect the start the upload local tDestination put http://www.; travelandworkusa.com FilePath tFileName into tFieldDest put ftp://; FTPUSER : FTPPASS @ ftp.travelandworkusa.com FilePath tFileName into tDestination libURLSetStatusCallback uploadProgress, the long ID of me put the long ID of me into progressmeter libURLftpUploadFile tFileForUpload, tDestination, uploadComplete put tFieldDest into field fldVidLink end mouseUp on uploadComplete pURL, pStatus put Status Update: pStatus return after field lblProgress end uploadComplete on uploadProgress pURL, pStatus put Status Update: pStatus return before field lblProgress --set the thumbpos of sb prgScrollBar to progressmeter end uploadProgress = Anything wrong with this as it pertains to FTPing to the server from a local file - from the context of a revlet online? After going through it, it's the FILE REQUESTER that is not working for me. I can FTP fine. I included ALL the libraries in the stand alone settings, just in case. So, does anyone know why the file requester would not come up in a revlet? How can I fix this - it's MAJOR for me to fix this. Thanks. Mike Felker P.S. Ken, a very nice gentleman from Sons of Thunder Software helped me out on the phone and was able to make some of this work on the Mac, but pretty much everything I experienced he did as well. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: [OT] More Apple Foolishness
Jacque- Friday, July 29, 2011, 1:58:48 PM, you wrote: It works with any server and with Dropbox, and you don't even need to leave LiveCode to use it. Sweet! Want. -- -Mark Wieder mwie...@ahsoftware.net ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: LC 4.6.3 on Linux
Richmond- Thursday, July 28, 2011, 12:12:33 PM, you wrote: So; downloaded the Linux version, and after install on Ubuntu 11.04 got a setting defaults message that made me, finally, kill the thing, having gone away, Don't know about Unbuntu, but on Fedora Core 13 4.6.3 just installed the usual way and is happily being a part of my system. -- -Mark Wieder mwie...@ahsoftware.net ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: iRev mySQL and a Revdberr?
On 30 Jul 2011, at 00:28, John Patten wrote: Hi All! I have a basic insert mysql query in an irev file. It manages to insert the new record but it returns a revdberr too. The table consists of 5 fields with the last field auto-updated incrementally. put INSERT INTO opentrades (sendtoid, traderid, traderitem, tradeeitem) VALUES ( ' tTradeeID ' , ' tPlayerID ' , ' tMyItem ' , ' tTheirItem ' ) into tSQL Just a guess, but are the fields sendtoid and traderid integer fields. If so, the values shouldn't be quoted. Dave ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: LC 4.6.3 on Linux
I'm running Fedora 15 and it appears to be just fine. But I also haven't tried doing much with it lately. Jeff M. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: [OT] More Apple Foolishness
On 7/29/11 7:25 PM, Mark Wieder wrote: Jacque- Friday, July 29, 2011, 1:58:48 PM, you wrote: It works with any server and with Dropbox, and you don't even need to leave LiveCode to use it. Sweet! Want. No sweat. Give me the weekend to fix it up. -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | jac...@hyperactivesw.com HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: EMERGENCY - File Browser not showing up in IE and other idiosyncracies with the Revlet Player
In my cards and scripts in Live Code, loading files work fine by pressing the BROWSE button (I made a button for each upload and labelled it BROWSE). You click it and a file box comes up with the proper filters. Everything works great! However, when using the same card on the internet (a revlet), pressing the BROWSE button does nothing. Is there some special procedure or syntax I have to follow to use file requesters from a revlet? Actually let me clarify - when I was working with Mike it *worked*, but only on certain browsers; for example it worked fine in Safari/Mac, but didn't work at all in Firefox/Windows or Internet Explorer/Windows. It's a simple answer file, so it *should* work for everything, but I don't have much experience with revlets... does anyone know if answer file only works with certain browsers? If so, are there any workarounds? Ken Ray Sons of Thunder Software, Inc. Email: k...@sonsothunder.com Web Site: http://www.sonsothunder.com/ ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Path to start using a stack in On-Rev?
If the stack and irev HTML page are in the same folder, what is the path to the stack for the start using command? Is it simply: start using stack Test_Stack.livecode Or is it something more complicated than that? I am testing by putting a simple function called respond in the stack file's stack script, but so far no response in the .irev page when it is supposed to run the command put respond(). Am I missing something completely? Regards, Bruce Pokras Blazing Dawn Software ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Where does survive the inventive user ?
On Wed, Jul 27, 2011 at 6:40 PM, Francis Nugent Dixon effe...@wanadoo.frwrote: Renting application use out of a cloud would be the same has handing over your wallet to a stranger. Which you already happily do right. I look in my wallet an there are a couple of notes and a couple of plastic cards. The notes represent about 0.01% of iMoney I have in my account. I can use those plastic cards to access the BankCloud and if the strangers at the Bank are willing, the machine will give me more real money on a 1 to 1 reduction of my iMoney. Sometimes I don't even have to change iMoney into real money, I just go to the shop and transfer iMoney from my account to their iMoney account which all resides in the same BankCloud. Of course I have to pay a 'rental' fee for the privilege of being able to access my iMoney at virtually any time or shop. But then again, if a stranger at the bank goes all Nick Leeson on me, the bank will collapse and my iMoney in the BankCloud will disappear like the early morning stratocumulus, leaving me without any real money. Strange what we think we'd never do. Oh, and Tim Miller, I'm just another 'no professional' still with LC, I just don't visit the LC List as often as I'd like because Life is getting more and more complicated, Time is getting shorter and shorter, and between Life, LiveCoding and reading the LiveCode Use List, reading the List is the one I've had to sacrifice. Actually two brand new brainwaves with associated stacks built in the last two weeks and I've got another problem to solve today which undoubtedly will involve a brand new stack. Love LC :-) ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: iRev mySQL and a Revdberr?
Ah! Thanks Dave! They are. I'll make the change and see if that helps. John Patten SUSD Sent from my iPad On Jul 29, 2011, at 5:40 PM, Dave Cragg dave.cr...@lacscentre.co.uk wrote: On 30 Jul 2011, at 00:28, John Patten wrote: Hi All! I have a basic insert mysql query in an irev file. It manages to insert the new record but it returns a revdberr too. The table consists of 5 fields with the last field auto-updated incrementally. put INSERT INTO opentrades (sendtoid, traderid, traderitem, tradeeitem) VALUES ( ' tTradeeID ' , ' tPlayerID ' , ' tMyItem ' , ' tTheirItem ' ) into tSQL Just a guess, but are the fields sendtoid and traderid integer fields. If so, the values shouldn't be quoted. Dave ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: EMERGENCY - File Browser not showing up in IE and other idiosyncracies with the Revlet Player
On 7/29/11 8:04 PM, Ken Ray wrote: In my cards and scripts in Live Code, loading files work fine by pressing the BROWSE button (I made a button for each upload and labelled it BROWSE). You click it and a file box comes up with the proper filters. Everything works great! However, when using the same card on the internet (a revlet), pressing the BROWSE button does nothing. Is there some special procedure or syntax I have to follow to use file requesters from a revlet? Actually let me clarify - when I was working with Mike it *worked*, but only on certain browsers; for example it worked fine in Safari/Mac, but didn't work at all in Firefox/Windows or Internet Explorer/Windows. It's a simple answer file, so it *should* work for everything, but I don't have much experience with revlets... does anyone know if answer file only works with certain browsers? If so, are there any workarounds? I haven't done much with revlets recently, but the two browsers you say don't work are the same two that don't work with any revlets at all for me. When they went to 64-bit, all my existing revlets refused to load. I think answer file used to work everywhere back when we were all 32-bit. There's an html fix for the loading problem, but that wouldn't help if answer file needs 32-bit. If you have older, 32-bit versions of those browsers, one of you could test. -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | jac...@hyperactivesw.com HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Where does survive the inventive user ?
Kay echoes my sentiments, both with regards to time and appreciation of LC! FWIW I'm a non-pro who found Rev when version 1 was given away on the front of a computer mag, and once I got past where's the equivalent of a writeline command?? and managed hello world I found the learning curve to be pretty manageable. On 30 July 2011 10:51, Kay C Lan lan.kc.macm...@gmail.com wrote: O Oh, and Tim Miller, I'm just another 'no professional' still with LC, I just don't visit the LC List as often as I'd like because Life is getting more and more complicated, Time is getting shorter and shorter, and between Life, LiveCoding and reading the LiveCode Use List, reading the List is the one I've had to sacrifice. Actually two brand new brainwaves with associated stacks built in the last two weeks and I've got another problem to solve today which undoubtedly will involve a brand new stack. Love LC :-) ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: EMERGENCY - File Browser not showing up in IE and other idiosyncracies with the Revlet Player
Yes, I was able to change the html auto-generated code to get IE to load revlets. That's not the problem. I have random problems - some can use it on Mac running Safari and others cannot (they can't even click on a button) Random problems in IE and reliable problems with attempting to open a file browser, which works on other browsers, but the ftp commands don't seem to work at all. The stand-alone versions work 100%. This is infuriating. Mike On Fri, 29 Jul 2011 23:50:53 -0500, J. Landman Gay wrote: On 7/29/11 8:04 PM, Ken Ray wrote: In my cards and scripts in Live Code, loading files work fine by pressing the BROWSE button (I made a button for each upload and labelled it BROWSE). You click it and a file box comes up with the proper filters. Everything works great! However, when using the same card on the internet (a revlet), pressing the BROWSE button does nothing. Is there some special procedure or syntax I have to follow to use file requesters from a revlet? Actually let me clarify - when I was working with Mike it *worked*, but only on certain browsers; for example it worked fine in Safari/Mac, but didn't work at all in Firefox/Windows or Internet Explorer/Windows. It's a simple answer file, so it *should* work for everything, but I don't have much experience with revlets... does anyone know if answer file only works with certain browsers? If so, are there any workarounds? I haven't done much with revlets recently, but the two browsers you say don't work are the same two that don't work with any revlets at all for me. When they went to 64-bit, all my existing revlets refused to load. I think answer file used to work everywhere back when we were all 32-bit. There's an html fix for the loading problem, but that wouldn't help if answer file needs 32-bit. If you have older, 32-bit versions of those browsers, one of you could test. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
