Re: onRev client problems

[Scott Morrow]

Martin,

Thanks for creating the bug reports.

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On Aug 6, 2011, at 5:47 PM, Martin Koob wrote:

> You can edit .lc files and upload them if you add the lc extension to the
> irev types in On-Rev preferences but the View Online and Debug buttons are
> disabled.  
> 
> I have posted bugs about this in QCC #9661 and #9663
> 
> Martin
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REsolving Behavior References

[Pete]

Quoting the dictionary:

"Behaviors are resolved by LiveCode immediately after loading a stack file"

Does that mean there is no opportunity to write a script to point LC to an
external library file containing behavior scripts?

I have been unsuccessful trying to do that in preOpenStack of the main stack
or preOpenCard of a card in the main stack.  The only way I have found to do
this is by setting the stackfiles property of the main stack to point to my
behavior library.  Even then, I have to exit LC and rerun for that to take
effect.

My behavior references do not include the fully qualified stack file name,
they are of the form "button ID of stack "behaviorstack".  This is because I
want the flexibility of using separate versions of the behaviors for
development and live apps.

Richard  - I know you have a QCC entry to provide a command to resolve
behaviors at any time and I have put the full force of my 5 puny votes
behind it!

Or maybe I'm just not understanding the behavior mechanism fully

Pete
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Re: Where does survive the inventive user ?

[Alejandro Tejada]

Hi Chipp,

I agree with your commentary about the differences
between Now and Then.

Everyone agrees that this platform needs more
exposure and in a previous message, I asked about
the possibility of creating some plug-in to use
LiveCode as an alternate scripting language
in Open Office:

http://framework.openoffice.org/scripting/release-0.2/index.html
http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Documentation/DevGuide/Scripting/How_the_Scripting_Framework_Works

The advantages of using LiveCode are
notable, while working with text, words,
lines...

What do you think of this idea?

Al

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Re: Airlaunch 1.0b2

[J. Landman Gay]

Oops. Forgot to change the address. Sorry.

On 8/6/11 9:00 PM, J. Landman Gay wrote:

On 8/6/11 8:03 PM, Thomas McGrath III wrote:

I can't get this to work for me. I used an app that I had installed
previously on the iPad but I just get a null error.



Hi, thanks for trying the app. Could you tell me more about the error?
When it occurs, at which stage, etc.? A recipe if you have it would be
great, I haven't heard about this particular error yet.

If the installation works and the app then hangs near the end of
"loading", that's usually a provisioning profile issue. Are you able to
get that far?

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Re: Airlaunch 1.0b2

[J. Landman Gay]

On 8/6/11 8:03 PM, Thomas McGrath III wrote:

I can't get this to work for me. I used an app that I had installed
previously on the iPad but I just get a null error.



Hi, thanks for trying the app. Could you tell me more about the error? 
When it occurs, at which stage, etc.? A recipe if you have it would be 
great, I haven't heard about this particular error yet.


If the installation works and the app then hangs near the end of 
"loading", that's usually a provisioning profile issue. Are you able to 
get that far?


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Re: Airlaunch 1.0b2

[J. Landman Gay]

On 8/6/11 8:03 PM, Thomas McGrath III wrote:

I can't get this to work for me. I used an app that I had installed
previously on the iPad but I just get a null error.


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Re: Airlaunch 1.0b2

[Thomas McGrath III]

I can't get this to work for me. I used an app that I had installed previously 
on the iPad but I just get a null error.

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On Aug 5, 2011, at 12:56 PM, J. Landman Gay wrote:

> On 8/5/11 9:16 AM, Björnke von Gierke wrote:
>> Sooo.. silly banter aside, what is this thing, what can it do for me
>> and when to use it?
> 
> But BvG, it is so clear to me -- what happened to your telepathy skills? ;)
> 
> AirLaunch lets you bypass Apple's methods of installing your test apps on iOS 
> devices, and lets you install via a wi-fi connection instead. Normally to 
> install a newly built app for testing, you must connect the device to your 
> Mac via USB cable, launch either iTunes or XCode, and drag your standalone 
> there. If you're in iTunes, you also have to wait for a synch.
> 
> AirLaunch bypasses all that. It builds a set of files that you copy to a 
> server or your Dropbox. (Using Dropbox is the easiest way for now, very 
> quick.) On the device, you open a browser (or the Dropbox app,) tap a link, 
> and your app installs. You don't need to mess with cabling, synching, or 
> launching an Apple application.
> 
>> 
>> You really should up your [ANN] count, so you can get better at it
>> :P
> 
> You're right. I'm almost finished testing scripts that upload to the server 
> from within AirLaunch, which will make installation even easier. When that's 
> done, I'll [ANN] with more care. :)
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Re: Distributing iOS externals

[Mark Schonewille]

Does nobody have experience with iOS externals yet?

On 5 aug 2011, at 03:03, Mark Schonewille wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> I just made two externals, one that reads the battery level (following the 
> RunRev tutorial) and another one that returns the localized device model. Now 
> I need to distribute these externals.
> 
> It isn't clear to me whether I can just sign an external with my own 
> provision profile for distribution and send it to someone who includes it in 
> his LiveCode project and creates a standalone with his own provision profile. 
> Can I distribute the signed external or do I have to send the source code to 
> the client? (The client would rather not compile the external).
> 
> Is there any info available about this?
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Re: Where does survive the inventive user ?

[Chipp Walters]

I think like many other software driven technologies, LC has passed by the
basic "inventive" user HC may have been intended for.

For instance, I quit using MS Word. It just got too complicated and I don't
typically do desktop publishing, or write large books, so I pretty much
stick with Google Docs: the MacWrite of it's time.

Sadly, as computers and users become more sophisticated, and as their
programs continue to evolve with "new, better" features so they can continue
to charge for the next upgrade, what is lost is much of the original
'gotcha' germ of attraction. I'm afraid LC is to HyperCard as MS Word is to
MacWrite. I'm not sure one can go backwards easily.

I'm suspect LC has close to an order of magnitude more tokens than HC--
there's just so much more to learn. Not to mention it now runs on at least
half a dozen platforms in many different incarnations. And it needs to
support much more on each platform. Back when HC was around, they didn't
have to support SQL, or a browser, or even color bit depths more than 1.
They didn't have to worry about libURL, image and alphadata, multiple
screens, regex, and mutiple flavors of repeat statements. Not to mention all
the new messages now recognized, especially in mobile platforms.

Even all that said, assuming one could 'dumb down' LC to basic HC levels,
and assuming one could write a really nice set of home, address, calendar,
etc. demo stacks (didn't Gaskin once write a beginner Address stack or am I
dreaming?), does anyone really think HyperCard, reimagined as LC, would
actually gain traction in today's world? Remember, back when HC was born,
there was no Internet, or really much in the way of email, so folks who
wanted to 'invent' really didn't have much OTHER than HyperCard and Basic
(which pretty much sucked).
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Re: onRev client problems

[Martin Koob]

You can edit .lc files and upload them if you add the lc extension to the
irev types in On-Rev preferences but the View Online and Debug buttons are
disabled.  

I have posted bugs about this in QCC #9661 and #9663

Martin

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Re: Editing with On-Rev Client (was: Path to start using a stack in On-Rev?)

[Martin Koob]

I have posted the following bugs to the QCC relating to the On-Rev Editor.
 
#9661 On-Rev Editor - View Online button button is disabled when editing .lc
files 
#9662 On-Rev Editor - Code blocks with  are not colourized 
#9663 On-Rev Editor - Debug button is disabled when editing .lc files. 

I posted these with the Component set as 'unclassified'.  The is no
component for On-Rev editor nor LiveCode Server.   I posted another bug
asking that components be added for these. Bug #9653



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Re: [OT] Internet Censorship

[Björnke von Gierke]

No, Sony does not have the right to withhold music or ideas. The law might 
protect them based on bad legislation, but they're certainly not in the right.

Also note that the maximum time such ill-gotten rights could be retained used 
to be 20 years, never infinite. The law has been extended to 50 in a reform 
introduced in the late nineties (or similar).

Additionally, where content becomes blocked is completely random. That is 
because the blocks are made based on algorithms, by automated programs. As we 
all know, programs are dumb, and when used to interpret large data base, also 
produces largely faulty results.

Finally, cheesecake in switzerland does not mean a sweet, yoghurt-based cake as 
in germany or the usa. Instead it describes a egg and cheese based, salty 
tartlet / quiche:
http://static.zoonar.com/img/www_repository2/c0/e1/32/10_6b0d57087c3745107ad01f9d3b13aa71.jpg

> Notice, again, that Sony paid for these rights. If they want,
> they could forbid forever the public diffusion of any performance
> of these artists... Forever. No explanation necessary. It's their
> right. They paid for it.
...
> Today we learn which countries could view blocked Sony videos: England and 
> Japan.


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detecting gestures

[ron barber]

Hi,
Is there a way for scrollbar objects to detect two finger swipes like
the field object does?
If that is not possible, is there a 'swipe' message sent that can be
picked up by any other object or is it OS native object related? What
I would like to do is have the scrollbar control respond to the swipe
like a field does and move across its length. Perhaps there is a
workaround? relate the thumbpos to the vscroll of a fld?

Thanks
Ron

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Re: Sean Shao's Calendar Widget

[Chipp Walters]

Charles,

The wrapper makes it easy to call the calendar widget with a single function
call. Please check the dialogdata AFTER the dialog is dismissed, and put
your biz logic there, not in the OK or any other button on the widget.

On Sat, Aug 6, 2011 at 11:07 AM, Charles Szasz  wrote:

> Chipp's wrapper for Sean Shao's calendar widget is great! I was able to use
> it to call it and insert a date into a field. But I do have a question about
> using it in multiple fields.
>
> This is the script I am using in the OK button of the calendar widget:
>
> on mouseUp
>   set the dialogdata to line 1 of fld "log"
>
>   if dialogdata is not empty
>   then
>  put item 2 of dialogdata into t --->month
>  put "/" after t
>  put item 3 of dialogdata after t --->day
>  put "/" after t
>  put item 1 of dialogdata after t --->year
>
>  put t into field "date1" of stack "mileage report"
>
>  close this stack
>   end if
>
> end mouseUp
>
> I tried using selectedField in my script in the OK button of the calendar
> widget above but that did not work:
>
> if selectedField of card "1" stack "mileage report" = field "date2" of card
> "1" of stack "mileage report"
>  then
> put t into field "date2" of card "1" of stack "mileage report"
>  else
> answer "It did not work!"
>  end if
>
> Any suggestions on how I can resolved this dilemma?
>
> Thanks for your time!
>
> Charles Szasz
> csz...@mac.com
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>
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Re: onRev client problems

[Matthias Rebbe]

Len,

as long as the  client is not updated it seems that you have to use the old 
engine by using the  .irev suffix.

Regards,

Matthias
Am 07.08.2011 um 00:44 schrieb Len Morgan:

> It seems that with the upgrade from the old server to 4.6.3 (and consequently 
> .irev files to .lc files) I can no longer run the debugger in the on-rev 
> client.  Is this going to be fixed?  Being able to debug code running on the 
> server was one of the main reasons I signed up for on-rev.com
> 
> len morgan
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onRev client problems

[Len Morgan]

It seems that with the upgrade from the old server to 4.6.3 (and 
consequently .irev files to .lc files) I can no longer run the debugger 
in the on-rev client.  Is this going to be fixed?  Being able to debug 
code running on the server was one of the main reasons I signed up for 
on-rev.com


len morgan

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Re: [OT] Internet Censorship

[Alejandro Tejada]

Hi Björnke,


Björnke von Gierke wrote:
> 
> So you never even heard of the DMCA, the second most
> important tool to circumvent any free speech rights in
> the USA and on the Internet?
> 

Notice, please, that Sony is in their legal right to block
this video wherever they chose, to protect the commercial
rights, for which they paid to the artists or managers or
another company.

Notice, again, that Sony paid for these rights. If they want,
they could forbid forever the public diffusion of any performance
of these artists... Forever. No explanation necessary. It's their
right. They paid for it.

In fact, many artists that sign with a Record label discover
this too late. They record an album, hoping to reach their
public, but the Record label decide to "shelve" their art.
Nobody could complaint, because that was written in the
contract, in really small letters, but there was.

Today we learn which countries could view blocked Sony
videos: England and Japan.

That's all folks!!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gBzJGckMYO4

:-D

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Re: Any way to show progress while an ON-REV page is processing a script?

[Michael Kann]

Bruce,

It looks like the javascript librarians have produced a plethora of progress 
bars.

http://dev.sencha.com/deploy/ext-4.0.0/examples/simple-widgets/progress-bar.html

google:

js progress bar
jquery progress bar

Mike


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From: Bruce Pokras 
Subject: Any way to show progress while an ON-REV page is processing a script?
To: "How to use LiveCode" 
Date: Saturday, August 6, 2011, 11:46 AM

I have a form that uses POST to get a list of patent numbers processed by a .lc 
or .irev page. Right now, the whole list has to be processed before the user 
sees that anything has happened. In my case, once all the patent numbers have 
been processed, the user will see a page of tables with information about each 
patent. In my revlet version of this process, it was easy to have a field 
display the progress of the processing with 1 of 20, 2 of 20, 3 of 20, etc. 
being displayed in a field as the processing of each patent took place. 

Is there any way to display a progress indicator while the .lc or .irev page is 
processing the patent numbers? I have tried a couple of things, such as having 
a separate "put" command for each patent, but nothing is displayed until all of 
the patents have been processed.

Regards,

Bruce Pokras
Blazing Dawn Software
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Re: Any way to show progress while an ON-REV page is processing a script?

[Michael Kann]

Bruce,

You could show them a few results and then have them click for more -- that is 
what google does. If you wanted to be fancy you could muster up some AJAX to go 
back and forth without having the user push any buttons.

Mike

--- On Sat, 8/6/11, Bruce Pokras  wrote:

From: Bruce Pokras 
Subject: Any way to show progress while an ON-REV page is processing a script?
To: "How to use LiveCode" 
Date: Saturday, August 6, 2011, 11:46 AM

I have a form that uses POST to get a list of patent numbers processed by a .lc 
or .irev page. Right now, the whole list has to be processed before the user 
sees that anything has happened. In my case, once all the patent numbers have 
been processed, the user will see a page of tables with information about each 
patent. In my revlet version of this process, it was easy to have a field 
display the progress of the processing with 1 of 20, 2 of 20, 3 of 20, etc. 
being displayed in a field as the processing of each patent took place. 

Is there any way to display a progress indicator while the .lc or .irev page is 
processing the patent numbers? I have tried a couple of things, such as having 
a separate "put" command for each patent, but nothing is displayed until all of 
the patents have been processed.

Regards,

Bruce Pokras
Blazing Dawn Software
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Re: Any way to show progress while an ON-REV page is processing a script?

[Michael Kann]

Bruce,

I'm working on something similar. When you write that you have a "list of 
patent numbers processed by a .lc or .irev page" do you mean that you are going 
out to fetch the patents each time, or will all the data be on your server? The 
reason I ask is if the data is on your server it might be better to attack the 
user delay in your code, rather than work on a progress bar.

For example, I'm presenting 993 titles of videos; all in a similar format, but 
the whole list is different each time. When I started out it took about 6 
seconds from button click to the list appearing. After setting up a poor man's 
index and retooling a few loops I've gotten the return trip down to about 50 
milliseconds -- good enough for government work.

Mike


--- On Sat, 8/6/11, Bruce Pokras  wrote:

From: Bruce Pokras 
Subject: Any way to show progress while an ON-REV page is processing a script?
To: "How to use LiveCode" 
Date: Saturday, August 6, 2011, 11:46 AM

I have a form that uses POST to get a list of patent numbers processed by a .lc 
or .irev page. Right now, the whole list has to be processed before the user 
sees that anything has happened. In my case, once all the patent numbers have 
been processed, the user will see a page of tables with information about each 
patent. In my revlet version of this process, it was easy to have a field 
display the progress of the processing with 1 of 20, 2 of 20, 3 of 20, etc. 
being displayed in a field as the processing of each patent took place. 

Is there any way to display a progress indicator while the .lc or .irev page is 
processing the patent numbers? I have tried a couple of things, such as having 
a separate "put" command for each patent, but nothing is displayed until all of 
the patents have been processed.

Regards,

Bruce Pokras
Blazing Dawn Software
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Re: [OT] Internet Censorship

[Ronald Zellner]

> Ronald Zellner wrote:
>> 
>> This one is not blocked and contains a number of videos:
>>>It sounds like you may be disappointed. This is not about how the
>>> music business works. 
>>>http://www.brainpickings.org/index.php/2010/12/09/how-music-works/
>> Is the content in the first video different from that presented in the
>> second site?
>> 
> 
> This video is part of a documentary, so it's content should be
> the same as the original program.
> 
> Are you able to watch the video?
> In which country do you live?
> 
> Al

I'm in the US.  Yes, I can see all the videos on this page.

Ron

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Re: [ANN] LiveCode.tv event #35

[Björnke von Gierke]

We invite you to join the event in about an hour.


On 5 Aug 2011, at 16:12, Björnke von Gierke wrote:

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Re: [OT] Internet Censorship

[Björnke von Gierke]

So you never even heard of the DMCA, the second most important tool to 
circumvent any free speech rights in the USA and on the Internet?

Try these informations:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Digital_Millennium_Copyright_Act
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lawrence_Lessig
http://www.eff.org/issues/dmca
http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/news/2011/08/righthaven-still-angering-judges-finally-pays-for-its-mistakes.ars
 (specific DMCA miss use, not any worse then regular use tho)


Deregulation in favour of gung-ho capitalism is destroying democracy.

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Re: [OT] Internet Censorship

[Alejandro Tejada]

Hi Ronald,


Ronald Zellner wrote:
> 
> This video seems blocked most places:
>> How many of you could view this youTube video?
>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R0IcvVF-p_k
> 

Yes, surprisingly in most countries,
except England and Japan.


Ronald Zellner wrote:
> 
> This one is not blocked and contains a number of videos:
>> It sounds like you may be disappointed. This is not about how the
>> music business works. 
>> http://www.brainpickings.org/index.php/2010/12/09/how-music-works/
> Is the content in the first video different from that presented in the
> second site?
> 

This video is part of a documentary, so it's content should be
the same as the original program.

Are you able to watch the video?
In which country do you live?

Al

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Any way to show progress while an ON-REV page is processing a script?

[Bruce Pokras]

I have a form that uses POST to get a list of patent numbers processed by a .lc 
or .irev page. Right now, the whole list has to be processed before the user 
sees that anything has happened. In my case, once all the patent numbers have 
been processed, the user will see a page of tables with information about each 
patent. In my revlet version of this process, it was easy to have a field 
display the progress of the processing with 1 of 20, 2 of 20, 3 of 20, etc. 
being displayed in a field as the processing of each patent took place. 

Is there any way to display a progress indicator while the .lc or .irev page is 
processing the patent numbers? I have tried a couple of things, such as having 
a separate "put" command for each patent, but nothing is displayed until all of 
the patents have been processed.

Regards,

Bruce Pokras
Blazing Dawn Software
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Re: [OT] Internet Censorship

[Ronald Zellner]

This video seems blocked most places:

> How many of you could view this youTube video?
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R0IcvVF-p_k


This one is not blocked and contains a number of videos:

> It sounds like you may be disappointed. This is not about how the music 
> business works. 
> 
> http://www.brainpickings.org/index.php/2010/12/09/how-music-works/

Is the content in the first video different from that presented in the second 
site?

Ron
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Sean Shao's Calendar Widget

[Charles Szasz]

Chipp's wrapper for Sean Shao's calendar widget is great! I was able to use it 
to call it and insert a date into a field. But I do have a question about using 
it in multiple fields.

This is the script I am using in the OK button of the calendar widget:

on mouseUp
   set the dialogdata to line 1 of fld "log"
   
   if dialogdata is not empty
   then
  put item 2 of dialogdata into t --->month
  put "/" after t
  put item 3 of dialogdata after t --->day
  put "/" after t
  put item 1 of dialogdata after t --->year

  put t into field "date1" of stack "mileage report"
  
  close this stack
   end if
   
end mouseUp

I tried using selectedField in my script in the OK button of the calendar 
widget above but that did not work:

if selectedField of card "1" stack "mileage report" = field "date2" of card "1" 
of stack "mileage report"
  then
 put t into field "date2" of card "1" of stack "mileage report"
  else
 answer "It did not work!"
  end if

Any suggestions on how I can resolved this dilemma?  

Thanks for your time!

Charles Szasz
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Re: [OT] Internet Censorship

[Alejandro Tejada]

Hi warren,


Warren Samples wrote:
> 
> It sounds like you may be disappointed. This is not about how the music
> business works. 
> http://www.brainpickings.org/index.php/2010/12/09/how-music-works/
> http://www.howardgoodall.co.uk/presenting/HMW.htm
> Warren
> 

Actually, my dissapoint is with Sony Music Entertainment and their
insensitive
application of copyright law over fair use in this documental series

Look, I am not the only one. From the brainpickins page that you linked:

"Harmony continues here: 2, 4, 5. (Alas, Part 3 has been gobbled up by
copyright claims — even though the series is not available on DVD or in
any purchasable format. Such is the disposition of copyright Nazis — far
from merely ensuring that creators are compensated for their work,
they’d rather let a cultural artifact rot in obscurity than reach is
wide-eyed audience.)"

More info:
http://fairuse.stanford.edu/Copyright_and_Fair_Use_Overview/chapter9/9-c.html

Hopefully, in a future, Mr. Goodall will replace these specific parts of the
series
and publish the whole documentary in DVD, with subtitles and alternate
languages.

Al

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Re: [OT] Internet Censorship

[Alejandro Tejada]

Hi warren,


Warren Samples wrote:
> 
> It sounds like you may be disappointed. This is not about how the music
> business works. 
> http://www.brainpickings.org/index.php/2010/12/09/how-music-works/
> http://www.howardgoodall.co.uk/presenting/HMW.htm
> Warren
> 

Actually, my dissapoint is with Sony Music Entertainment and their
insensitive
application of copyright law over fair use in this documental series

Look, I am not the only one. From the brainpickins page that you linked:

"Harmony continues here: 2, 4, 5. (Alas, Part 3 has been gobbled up by
copyright claims — even though the series is not available on DVD or in
any purchasable format. Such is the disposition of copyright Nazis — far
from merely ensuring that creators are compensated for their work,
they’d rather let a cultural artifact rot in obscurity than reach is
wide-eyed audience.)"

More info:
http://fairuse.stanford.edu/Copyright_and_Fair_Use_Overview/chapter9/9-c.html

Hopefully, in a future, Mr. Goodall will replace these specific parts of the
series
and publish the whole documentary in DVD, with subtitles and alternate
languages,

Al

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Re: [OT] Internet Censorship

[Martin Koob]

It is blocked in Canada

Martin

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Re: [OT] Internet Censorship

[Warren Samples]

On Saturday, August 06, 2011 01:39:13 AM Alejandro Tejada wrote:
> Ideally, I would like to see it.
> 
> My curiosity arises from my contact, for many years,
> with people from the Music Business.
> 
> The stories that I heard from first hand where, at the
> time, like tall tales to me... But now, after confirming
> from different sources, these stories were in fact,
> oversimplifications of the real drama involved in the
> Music Business... :-(
> 
> Al


It sounds like you may be disappointed. This is not about how the music 
business works. 

http://www.brainpickings.org/index.php/2010/12/09/how-music-works/
http://www.howardgoodall.co.uk/presenting/HMW.htm

Warren

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Re: [OT] Internet Censorship

[Richmond Mathewson]

On 08/06/2011 01:41 PM, Bernard Devlin wrote:

Not blocked in the UK.


Where's "the UK" ?

http://www.legislation.gov.uk/aep/Ann/6/11/part/18

As "Queen Anne" was, in fact, the brother of the legal monarch of 
Scotland, England, Ireland and Wales; His Majesty King James VIII and 
III, it is difficult to see how this act could be legal.


Many other things have been "blocked in the UK", including the right to 
get the usurpers out!




On Sat, Aug 6, 2011 at 11:28 AM, Klaus on-rev  wrote:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aPmnho7OvT8&feature=related

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Re: [OT] Internet Censorship

[Bernard Devlin]

Not blocked in the UK.

On Sat, Aug 6, 2011 at 11:28 AM, Klaus on-rev  wrote:
>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aPmnho7OvT8&feature=related

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Re: [OT] Internet Censorship

[Klaus on-rev]

Hi Warren,

Am 06.08.2011 um 06:48 schrieb Warren Samples:

> On Friday, August 05, 2011 11:45:46 PM Warren Samples wrote:
>> On Friday, August 05, 2011 11:30:44 PM Alejandro Tejada wrote:
>>> many people, around the world, are not supposing to watch
>> to finish your sentence... "on youtube."
>> I suppose you could write to Sony and ask them. While this is just 
>> speculation, it is a possibility that either some performer appears, or some 
>> material is used in this segment which is affected by contracts which 
>> prevent youtube distribution whereas the other segments which you can see on 
>> youtube are not.
>> Regards,
>> 
>> Warren
> You'll find a discussion of this in another of these clips:
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aPmnho7OvT8&feature=related

which is also blocked over here in germany :-D


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Re: [OT] Internet Censorship

[Klaus on-rev]

Hi Alejandro,

Am 06.08.2011 um 05:25 schrieb Alejandro Tejada:

> Hi All,
> 
> How many of you could view this youTube video?
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R0IcvVF-p_k
> 
> ...
> 
> Could you post your country and the message
> that appears?
> 
> Thanks in advance!

blocked in germany:
Leider ist dieses Video, das Musik von SME beinhaltet, in Deutschland nicht 
verfügbar, 
da die GEMA die Verlagsrechte hieran nicht eingeräumt hat.
Das tut uns leid.

> Al

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Re: Jerry's Custom Combo Box

[Ian McKnight]

Hi Arie

Follow this link

http://www.imksoftware.co.uk/JDCombobox.zip

The ZIP file contains Jerry's New Combo box and the article he wrote about
it for the Rev Newsletter.

On 6 August 2011 09:39, Arie van der Ent  wrote:

> Hi Ian,
>
> Can you make it downloadable somewhere?
>
> Regards,
> Arie van der Ent
>
> Op 4 aug. 2011, om 16:11 heeft Ian McKnight het volgende geschreven:
>
> > Hi Charles
> >
> > Yes I have a copy. I'll send it on.
> >
> > On 4 August 2011 13:39, Charles Szasz  wrote:
> >
> >> I wanted to try Jerry Daniels' sample stack that has his custom combo
> box
> >> that was in revUp issue 87 but the link has expired for downloading it.
> I
> >> contacted Jerry about it but he no longer has that sample stack.  Does
> >> anybody have that sample stack that they could e-mail me?
> >>
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Re: Jerry's Custom Combo Box

[Arie van der Ent]

Hi Ian,

Can you make it downloadable somewhere?

Regards,
Arie van der Ent

Op 4 aug. 2011, om 16:11 heeft Ian McKnight het volgende geschreven:

> Hi Charles
> 
> Yes I have a copy. I'll send it on.
> 
> On 4 August 2011 13:39, Charles Szasz  wrote:
> 
>> I wanted to try Jerry Daniels' sample stack that has his custom combo box
>> that was in revUp issue 87 but the link has expired for downloading it. I
>> contacted Jerry about it but he no longer has that sample stack.  Does
>> anybody have that sample stack that they could e-mail me?
>> 
>> Sent from my iPad
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Re: [OT] Internet Censorship

[Richmond Mathewson]

It is most instructive if one pastes:

"
This video contains content from SME, who has blocked it in your country 
on copyright grounds.

Sorry about that."

into Google . . . .  endless amounts of this.

Some of which seems very odd and rather random.

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Re: [OT] Internet Censorship

[Richmond Mathewson]

On 08/06/2011 06:25 AM, Alejandro Tejada wrote:

Hi All,

How many of you could view this youTube video?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R0IcvVF-p_k

This video is a segment of Howard Goodall's
2006 documentary: How Music Works

You could find many more segments in youTube
when you select the option "Videos" in google.

The message that appears in my side of the world is:
"This video contains content from SME, who has blocked it
in your country on copyright grounds."

SME is Sony Music Entertainment...

Could you post your country and the message
that appears?



Blocked in Bulgaria:

"This video contains content from SME, who has blocked it in your 
country on copyright grounds.

Sorry about that."

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