Re: So RunRev wants more of my money- what has been fixed?
On Oct 11, 2011, at 8:58 PM, Admin ad...@mfelkerco.com wrote: snip. To say I was let down is an understatement. I lost my primary mode of income because the web deployment module, which supposedly worked, ABSOLUTELY, POSITIVELY DID NOT WORK. Wow. Betting your primary source of income on a new rev browser plugin technology where it is pretty easy to vet the facts: A) Plugins for browsers are, er.. NOT a great way to deploy software. Just search this list for rev plugin-- there's tons of information why this is true AND.. B) Further searches should tell you the rev plugin is and always has been a bit sketchy at best. Maybe it's just our company, but when we architect an app for clients, be it LC, Flex, .NET, HTML5 or any new framework, we spend the necessary upfront time researching (most importantly) what it CAN'T do. Frequently we build test bed mockups just to be sure. I'm sure it's a hard lesson learned, but I would assume not one you will be forgetting soon. And YOU ARE CORRECT. RunRev should NOT publish a half-complete product unless they call it beta software. The fact is, with LC, some things are much more finished and polished than other things. Unfortunately for you, the one you chose is fairly rough. I believe UNICODE has been on the coming next list (along with a new improved field object) for the last 5+ years. Most of us who have been around for quite a while know the sweet spots, and the potholes, so many times it's no big deal to us when Unicode misses another upgrade revision. We weren't counting on it. Unfortunately, you had no such forewarning or knowledge of this. Still, RunRev is a VERY small company. They have brilliant programmers and Kevin Miller has done an almost perfect job steering the ship through the channel already littered with dead xTalk efforts. Perhaps they are now in a growth spurt, taking on just a bit more than they can handle-- hurrying to play catchup with the huge number of features and APIs the hundreds of programmers at Apple, and thousands of programmers at Microsoft and Google, not to mention the Andre's, Richmond's, and Gaskin's relentless pursuit of feature parity for Red Ubuntu Hat. Oh, and the severe competition of multiple other RAD tools out there might also factor into some of the catchup going on. I'm not making apologies for them, but I do know of a few other products who are faring worse. So, add it all up, and it shows LC to be a company who is always changing, always pissing someone off, always righting the ship and shipping a new build, and-- always listening. Still, it is a company with flaws, just like any other. My suggestion: do your homework and you won't be so sorely disappointed. There are many here who will steer you correctly. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: So RunRev wants more of my money- what has been fixed?
I think it was cool that Runrev listened to us on the list, many DEMANDED a plugin, stating that it was the 'Holy Grail' of web development. So they MADE ONE. I was impressed. They 'matched' the browser document model with a Rev card/stack. Wow. Regardless of the fact that I put off touching javascript at for a while, I realized with all the trouble I'd seen making the plugin work in 'all browsers', that an approach that used either a server-based solution with html and javascript, or a thin client using Livecode desktop, or a player approach that started up stacks that live online would be a more consistent user and developer experience. I think it was in the middle of the plug-in period that Runrev changed focus and started their quest for the iPhone project. Judging by the quantity of posts about phones, I'd say it was a pretty good decision. On 12 October 2011 23:59, Chipp Walters ch...@altuit.com wrote: On Oct 11, 2011, at 8:58 PM, Admin ad...@mfelkerco.com wrote: snip. To say I was let down is an understatement. I lost my primary mode of income because the web deployment module, which supposedly worked, ABSOLUTELY, POSITIVELY DID NOT WORK. Wow. Betting your primary source of income on a new rev browser plugin technology where it is pretty easy to vet the facts: A) Plugins for browsers are, er.. NOT a great way to deploy software. Just search this list for rev plugin-- there's tons of information why this is true AND.. B) Further searches should tell you the rev plugin is and always has been a bit sketchy at best. Maybe it's just our company, but when we architect an app for clients, be it LC, Flex, .NET, HTML5 or any new framework, we spend the necessary upfront time researching (most importantly) what it CAN'T do. Frequently we build test bed mockups just to be sure. I'm sure it's a hard lesson learned, but I would assume not one you will be forgetting soon. And YOU ARE CORRECT. RunRev should NOT publish a half-complete product unless they call it beta software. The fact is, with LC, some things are much more finished and polished than other things. Unfortunately for you, the one you chose is fairly rough. I believe UNICODE has been on the coming next list (along with a new improved field object) for the last 5+ years. Most of us who have been around for quite a while know the sweet spots, and the potholes, so many times it's no big deal to us when Unicode misses another upgrade revision. We weren't counting on it. Unfortunately, you had no such forewarning or knowledge of this. Still, RunRev is a VERY small company. They have brilliant programmers and Kevin Miller has done an almost perfect job steering the ship through the channel already littered with dead xTalk efforts. Perhaps they are now in a growth spurt, taking on just a bit more than they can handle-- hurrying to play catchup with the huge number of features and APIs the hundreds of programmers at Apple, and thousands of programmers at Microsoft and Google, not to mention the Andre's, Richmond's, and Gaskin's relentless pursuit of feature parity for Red Ubuntu Hat. Oh, and the severe competition of multiple other RAD tools out there might also factor into some of the catchup going on. I'm not making apologies for them, but I do know of a few other products who are faring worse. So, add it all up, and it shows LC to be a company who is always changing, always pissing someone off, always righting the ship and shipping a new build, and-- always listening. Still, it is a company with flaws, just like any other. My suggestion: do your homework and you won't be so sorely disappointed. There are many here who will steer you correctly. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode -- Stephen Barncard San Francisco Ca. USA more about sqb http://www.google.com/profiles/sbarncar ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Licenses
Hi, I am looking for generally applicable EULA texts that are freely available. The text itself should not be licensed/copyrighted, i.e. it should be in the public domain. The text is preferably composed in multiple languages. The license itself should apply to commercial and free software, but not to open-source. Any suggestions, pretty please? -- Best regards, Mark Schonewille Economy-x-Talk Consulting and Software Engineering Homepage: http://economy-x-talk.com Twitter: http://twitter.com/xtalkprogrammer KvK: 50277553 See what you get with only a small contribution. All our LiveCode downloads are listed at http://qery.us/zr ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: What does 'shadows' mean?
Hi from Beautiful Brittany, Keith, I am sure we can come to an agreement about the beauty (and complexity) of the English Language, and its banana skins . and also the wonderful depth of the music of Pink Floyd. (although I do have a weak spot for Wish You Were Here) As each language has its strong points and its weak points, I can only fall back on the answer I give to people who ask me As a bilingual person (English/French), which language is the most powerful, which do you prefer ?. My answer is always the same : To define the workings of a four-stroke engine, I would always prefer English. To tell a woman how much I love her, I would always prefer French ! As England and Ireland have both been eliminated from the world Rugby cup, I am prepared to settle for a draw (1:1) concerning an alternative word for shadows. BUT - Concerning celestial bodies, LiveCode IS out of this world ! Best Regards -Francis ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Licenses
I have a general EULA in english that use for my products. I would gladly share it with you. Mike On Thu, 13 Oct 2011 13:16:24 +0200, Mark Schonewille wrote: Hi, I am looking for generally applicable EULA texts that are freely available. The text itself should not be licensed/copyrighted, i.e. it should be in the public domain. The text is preferably composed in multiple languages. The license itself should apply to commercial and free software, but not to open-source. Any suggestions, pretty please? -- Best regards, Mark Schonewille Economy-x-Talk Consulting and Software Engineering Homepage: http://economy-x-talk.com [1] Twitter: http://twitter.com/xtalkprogrammer [2] KvK: 50277553 See what you get with only a small contribution. All our LiveCode downloads are listed at http://qery.us/zr [3] ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com [4] Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode [5] Links: -- [1] http://economy-x-talk.com [2] http://twitter.com/xtalkprogrammer [3] http://qery.us/zr [4] mailto:use-livecode@lists.runrev.com [5] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Licenses
Mark, I have no clue but if you find it, could you post it here? Cheers andre On Thu, Oct 13, 2011 at 8:16 AM, Mark Schonewille m.schonewi...@economy-x-talk.com wrote: Hi, I am looking for generally applicable EULA texts that are freely available. The text itself should not be licensed/copyrighted, i.e. it should be in the public domain. The text is preferably composed in multiple languages. The license itself should apply to commercial and free software, but not to open-source. Any suggestions, pretty please? -- Best regards, Mark Schonewille Economy-x-Talk Consulting and Software Engineering Homepage: http://economy-x-talk.com Twitter: http://twitter.com/xtalkprogrammer KvK: 50277553 See what you get with only a small contribution. All our LiveCode downloads are listed at http://qery.us/zr ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode -- http://www.andregarzia.com -- All We Do Is Code. http://fon.nu -- minimalist url shortening service. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: So RunRev wants more of my money- what has been fixed?
A search in the Gmane list archives suggests that this started in January 2003 with a message from the listMom, Heather Nagy: Dear list members, Let us start the New Year with a reminder of the mission statement for this list: We are here to discuss Revolution, and help each other along the road of programming in Revolution, swap tips, solve problems, offer information and ask questions about using Revolution. Politics, religion and cheese are all off topic This started off intermittent jokes mentioning cheese and then apologizing for being off-topic (Sorry, Heather...). -- Peter Peter M. Brigham pmb...@gmail.com http://home.comcast.net/~pmbrig How can you govern a country where there are over 300 kinds of cheese? -- Charles de Gaulle (Sorry, Heather) On Oct 13, 2011, at 1:16 AM, Pete wrote: OK, now I know this is probably going to resurrect some painful memories but I haven't been a member of this group for long enough to understand the reason behind the forbidden word that begins with ch. I mean, ch is pretty tasty and quite nutritious in my experience Pete Molly's Revenge http://www.mollysrevenge.com On Wed, Oct 12, 2011 at 7:57 PM, Peter M. Brigham, MD pmb...@gmail.comwrote: On Oct 12, 2011, at 5:45 PM, Bob Sneidar wrote: So far as I know, beef is not on the list of banned topics. Cheese however... Uh-oh, you mentioned beef and cheese in the same email -- now that's not kosher -- Peter Peter M. Brigham pmb...@gmail.com http://home.comcast.net/~pmbrig ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: [ANN] minimal facebook library available
Just joined the fundraising efforts. Hope you get enough contributions soon. -- Tom McGrath III http://lazyriver.on-rev.com 3mcgr...@comcast.net On Oct 12, 2011, at 8:42 AM, Maarten Koopmans wrote: How much do you need, and what will you build for that? And what do we need to raise to make the end result BSD licensed once its feature-complete? --Maarten PS:great work! On Tue, Oct 11, 2011 at 5:27 AM, Andre Garzia an...@andregarzia.com wrote: Folks, Thanks to those that contributed with my little fundraising campaign, I am now able to release a minimal facebook library. There is still much work to be done and I don't plan to stop it. You can learn more about my Social Network Library Suite here: http://andregarzia.com/page/socialsuite You can browse the mercurial repository here: http://hg.andregarzia.com/livecode-socialsuite I am still raising funds for this suite, so, don't loose your chance to contribute. WHAT IS AVAILABLE: * lib.aag.json.livecode - a minimal JSON library. BSD License. * lib.aag.facebook.livecode - a simple low level facebook library. * examples/facebook/simpleposter.livecode - a sample stack that posts to a user wall. Remember this library is GPL licensed. You can only build FREE, OPEN SOURCE software with it. If you want a commercial version, then, you'd better join the fundraising. So guys, can you please test? By the way, you will need to register your application on http://developer.facebook.com. After registering, you will need to pick your application id and application secret and fill the setup card on the example stack. I am not sharing my application id and secret with you. Cheers andre PS: fundraiser, sleep with this sound. -- http://www.andregarzia.com -- All We Do Is Code. http://fon.nu -- minimalist url shortening service. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Another examples of the screen refresh problem on the Mac?
Great explanation and break down Richard. I very much enjoyed this. -- Tom McGrath III http://lazyriver.on-rev.com 3mcgr...@comcast.net On Oct 12, 2011, at 9:54 AM, Richard Gaskin wrote: James Hurley wrote: Thank you for this Bernd. It is going to take me a while to digest these new graphic features in 5.0. I confess I am unaware of the interaction between RR code and the display on the screen. That's probably important. :-) Like you, I don't see much improvement of 5.0 over 4.6 in animation. The effect of lowering the syncRate, not so much the rate as the time between syncs (?), is significant, but then that was something available to us in 4.6--except that I didn't know it. The nomenclature suggests that it is the frequency, when it appears to be the period. And, as we all learned in physics, one is the reciprocal of the other. I would like to see a little help from RR on these new features--by way of a demonstration stack perhaps. Yes, I think that's going to be necessary, and over time as more is understood about the new rendering scheme, hopefully there will also be more intelligent defaults so users can immediately see at least some benefit without having to do multiple iterations of experimentation. The v5.0 rendering engine represents perhaps the biggest change in the history of the engine to how objects are rendered on screen. The upside is that it's possible to see graphics performance increase many times over previous versions. The downside is that it's not easy to realize that performance gain without a great deal of experimentation. In earlier versions, cards were rendered using a very brute-force method, in which every time there was a screen refresh every object was rendered from back to front until all had been rendered, and then that composite image was copied to the graphport of the window in which the card is displayed. So simply moving a single billiard ball, which might actually affect only one small portion of the screen, caused the entire screen to go through that rendering process. It was thorough and robust, but often redundant. In the new rendering engine, the screen composite is divided into tiles, and logic is applied to determining whether a given tile is affected by a given change. Those tiles that are affected will be re-rendered, while those that aren't will simply retain their last rendering and use that to copy to the window for the finished result. There is a certain amount of additional internal overhead to this tiled scheme, however, since it now has to keep track of multiple sections of the screen and run through that hit-testing to determine which ones need to be re-rendered. On the one hand, more tiles can mean less re-rerendering, but on the other hand it means more tile management. So the key to using the new graphics engine effectively boils down to finding the right tile size optimal for your particular layout and the nature of the changes happening within it. If you have relatively small objects whose changes affect relatively small portions of the screen, you may find a smaller tile size will offer greater performance. But if even a small object moves over a large area, a larger tile size may provide even better performance. The optimal tile size can't be known in advance, because it depends on a wide variety of factors driven by scripts that may exist in the objects on the card themselves, or even in some remote library, and the sum of their interactions may be too complex to expect that the engine can figure out in advance how to set an optimal tile size. So in v5, to take advantage of this new rendering scheme we need to experiment with different tile sizes, some larger and some smaller, and perhaps even different rendering engines on the platforms they're available on (LC now uses OpenGL, for example, on platforms where that technology is available). Through the evolution of this new engine, developers on the dev list noted a wide range of performance results from worse than before to OMG this thing just flies!, depending on the different combinations of tile sizes and other rendering options they took the time to experiment with. Given the complexity of the new renderer, and how much conceptualization and experimentation is required by the user to use it well, it could be argued that it has introduced a level of complexity that seems counter-productive to RunRev's goal of delivering the simplest system possible for delivering professional software. But I believe that as we use it more often, and as experimentation and development continue at RunRev, we will shortly see ever-better versions of this engine which are able to apply defaults which provide at least some of the benefits, leaving further performance enhancement to those developers who need it and will be willing to put in the time
Re: [ANN] minimal facebook library available
Yep, I jumped on the old band-wagon, too, as whilst I'd like to experiment with OAuth / SAML support and may need JSON at some time, I definitely owe Andre a beer or three already! Best, Keith.. On 13 Oct 2011, at 15:54, Thomas McGrath III wrote: Just joined the fundraising efforts. Hope you get enough contributions soon. -- Tom McGrath III http://lazyriver.on-rev.com 3mcgr...@comcast.net On Oct 12, 2011, at 8:42 AM, Maarten Koopmans wrote: How much do you need, and what will you build for that? And what do we need to raise to make the end result BSD licensed once its feature-complete? --Maarten PS:great work! On Tue, Oct 11, 2011 at 5:27 AM, Andre Garzia an...@andregarzia.com wrote: Folks, Thanks to those that contributed with my little fundraising campaign, I am now able to release a minimal facebook library. There is still much work to be done and I don't plan to stop it. You can learn more about my Social Network Library Suite here: http://andregarzia.com/page/socialsuite You can browse the mercurial repository here: http://hg.andregarzia.com/livecode-socialsuite I am still raising funds for this suite, so, don't loose your chance to contribute. WHAT IS AVAILABLE: * lib.aag.json.livecode - a minimal JSON library. BSD License. * lib.aag.facebook.livecode - a simple low level facebook library. * examples/facebook/simpleposter.livecode - a sample stack that posts to a user wall. Remember this library is GPL licensed. You can only build FREE, OPEN SOURCE software with it. If you want a commercial version, then, you'd better join the fundraising. So guys, can you please test? By the way, you will need to register your application on http://developer.facebook.com. After registering, you will need to pick your application id and application secret and fill the setup card on the example stack. I am not sharing my application id and secret with you. Cheers andre PS: fundraiser, sleep with this sound. -- http://www.andregarzia.com -- All We Do Is Code. http://fon.nu -- minimalist url shortening service. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: [ANN] minimal facebook library available
Keith- Thursday, October 13, 2011, 8:58:02 AM, you wrote: Yep, I jumped on the old band-wagon, too, as whilst I'd like to experiment with OAuth / SAML support and may need JSON at some time, I definitely owe Andre a beer or three already! Same here. -- -Mark Wieder mwie...@ahsoftware.net ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: [ANN] minimal facebook library available
Thanks Guys Stay tuned for more releases and some docs! and thanks again for the support! (PS: What is SAML?!) Cheers andre On Thu, Oct 13, 2011 at 12:58 PM, Keith Clarke keith.cla...@clarkeandclarke.co.uk wrote: Yep, I jumped on the old band-wagon, too, as whilst I'd like to experiment with OAuth / SAML support and may need JSON at some time, I definitely owe Andre a beer or three already! Best, Keith.. On 13 Oct 2011, at 15:54, Thomas McGrath III wrote: Just joined the fundraising efforts. Hope you get enough contributions soon. -- Tom McGrath III http://lazyriver.on-rev.com 3mcgr...@comcast.net On Oct 12, 2011, at 8:42 AM, Maarten Koopmans wrote: How much do you need, and what will you build for that? And what do we need to raise to make the end result BSD licensed once its feature-complete? --Maarten PS:great work! On Tue, Oct 11, 2011 at 5:27 AM, Andre Garzia an...@andregarzia.com wrote: Folks, Thanks to those that contributed with my little fundraising campaign, I am now able to release a minimal facebook library. There is still much work to be done and I don't plan to stop it. You can learn more about my Social Network Library Suite here: http://andregarzia.com/page/socialsuite You can browse the mercurial repository here: http://hg.andregarzia.com/livecode-socialsuite I am still raising funds for this suite, so, don't loose your chance to contribute. WHAT IS AVAILABLE: * lib.aag.json.livecode - a minimal JSON library. BSD License. * lib.aag.facebook.livecode - a simple low level facebook library. * examples/facebook/simpleposter.livecode - a sample stack that posts to a user wall. Remember this library is GPL licensed. You can only build FREE, OPEN SOURCE software with it. If you want a commercial version, then, you'd better join the fundraising. So guys, can you please test? By the way, you will need to register your application on http://developer.facebook.com. After registering, you will need to pick your application id and application secret and fill the setup card on the example stack. I am not sharing my application id and secret with you. Cheers andre PS: fundraiser, sleep with this sound. -- http://www.andregarzia.com -- All We Do Is Code. http://fon.nu -- minimalist url shortening service. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode -- http://www.andregarzia.com -- All We Do Is Code. http://fon.nu -- minimalist url shortening service. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: [ANN] minimal facebook library available
Send Andre More Love -- or -- Send Andre More Loot which in this case are pretty much equivalent. ;-) Phil On 10/13/11 9:13 AM, Andre Garzia wrote: (PS: What is SAML?!) Cheers andre -- Phil Davis PDS Labs Professional Software Development http://pdslabs.net ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
[ANN] LiveCode.tv event #39
Hello Fans of the Event Note that we need presenters for 28. Oct and later! Join us this Saturday as Colin Holgate will offer an intro into the concepts of Adobe Flash, and then compare its capabilities with LiveCode. As an extension of that, Malte Brill shows off his Animation Engine. This add-on offers several ways to do complex animations and also has a lot of other helper handlers. He also explains what is new and exciting about the fifth version of AE. Join ChatRev to watch live at 20:00 CET on Saturday, 15th October. Download a standalone from http://bjoernke.com/chatrev/ or enter in the message box: go stack URL “http://bjoernke.com/chatrev/chatrev1.3b3.rev” Sat. 15th October 2011 20:00 Rome 19:00 London 14:00 New York 11:00 Los Angeles 5:00 Sydney (Sun.) Recordings available when people remember to record: http://livecode.tv Cheers Björnke -- Watch live presentations every Saturday: http://livecode.tv Use an alternative Dictionary viewer: http://bjoernke.com/bvgdocu/ Chat with other RunRev developers: http://bjoernke.com/chatrev/ ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: [ANN] minimal facebook library available
SAML = Security Assertion Markup Language, used for single sign-on http://saml.xml.org/ Best, Keith.. On 13 Oct 2011, at 17:13, Andre Garzia wrote: Thanks Guys Stay tuned for more releases and some docs! and thanks again for the support! (PS: What is SAML?!) Cheers andre On Thu, Oct 13, 2011 at 12:58 PM, Keith Clarke keith.cla...@clarkeandclarke.co.uk wrote: Yep, I jumped on the old band-wagon, too, as whilst I'd like to experiment with OAuth / SAML support and may need JSON at some time, I definitely owe Andre a beer or three already! Best, Keith.. On 13 Oct 2011, at 15:54, Thomas McGrath III wrote: Just joined the fundraising efforts. Hope you get enough contributions soon. -- Tom McGrath III http://lazyriver.on-rev.com 3mcgr...@comcast.net On Oct 12, 2011, at 8:42 AM, Maarten Koopmans wrote: How much do you need, and what will you build for that? And what do we need to raise to make the end result BSD licensed once its feature-complete? --Maarten PS:great work! On Tue, Oct 11, 2011 at 5:27 AM, Andre Garzia an...@andregarzia.com wrote: Folks, Thanks to those that contributed with my little fundraising campaign, I am now able to release a minimal facebook library. There is still much work to be done and I don't plan to stop it. You can learn more about my Social Network Library Suite here: http://andregarzia.com/page/socialsuite You can browse the mercurial repository here: http://hg.andregarzia.com/livecode-socialsuite I am still raising funds for this suite, so, don't loose your chance to contribute. WHAT IS AVAILABLE: * lib.aag.json.livecode - a minimal JSON library. BSD License. * lib.aag.facebook.livecode - a simple low level facebook library. * examples/facebook/simpleposter.livecode - a sample stack that posts to a user wall. Remember this library is GPL licensed. You can only build FREE, OPEN SOURCE software with it. If you want a commercial version, then, you'd better join the fundraising. So guys, can you please test? By the way, you will need to register your application on http://developer.facebook.com. After registering, you will need to pick your application id and application secret and fill the setup card on the example stack. I am not sharing my application id and secret with you. Cheers andre PS: fundraiser, sleep with this sound. -- http://www.andregarzia.com -- All We Do Is Code. http://fon.nu -- minimalist url shortening service. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode -- http://www.andregarzia.com -- All We Do Is Code. http://fon.nu -- minimalist url shortening service. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: So RunRev wants more of my money- what has been fixed?
On 10/13/11 8:00 AM, Peter M. Brigham, MD wrote: A search in the Gmane list archives suggests that this started in January 2003 with a message from the listMom, Heather Nagy: It goes farther back than that, but I'm not sure by how much. Someone mentioned ch**se, it started a stream of responses that went on for weeks, generated hundreds or thousands of messages which debated the superiority of one type of ch**se over another, the countries that make the best ch**se, why one country's product is inferior to another, what each type was best for, who like which type, who hates which type and why, etc. etc. After perhaps a thousand messages, the topic was banned. Since then it's beome the catch-all word here for just about any subject that could incite controversy and is off topic. -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | jac...@hyperactivesw.com HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: [ANN] minimal facebook library available
You know, if we all gave Andre the 2 or 3 beers we each owe him, he'd be out of action for a long time :-) I had to Google 'JSON' to find out what it was but it was still a good idea to jump on the bandwagon. -- Alex. P.S. Andre - PebbleBeach is me. On 13/10/2011 17:10, Mark Wieder wrote: Keith- Thursday, October 13, 2011, 8:58:02 AM, you wrote: Yep, I jumped on the old band-wagon, too, as whilst I'd like to experiment with OAuth / SAML support and may need JSON at some time, I definitely owe Andre a beer or three already! Same here. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: So RunRev wants more of my money- what has been fixed?
On 10/13/2011 08:34 PM, J. Landman Gay wrote: On 10/13/11 8:00 AM, Peter M. Brigham, MD wrote: A search in the Gmane list archives suggests that this started in January 2003 with a message from the listMom, Heather Nagy: It goes farther back than that, but I'm not sure by how much. Someone mentioned ch**se, it started a stream of responses that went on for weeks, generated hundreds or thousands of messages which debated the superiority of one type of ch**se over another, the countries that make the best ch**se, why one country's product is inferior to another, what each type was best for, who like which type, who hates which type and why, etc. etc. After perhaps a thousand messages, the topic was banned. Since then it's beome the catch-all word here for just about any subject that could incite controversy and is off topic. Hey, that's really fascinating; how about a thousand message thread on ch**se; we could try and break the world record for the longest thread on a Use-List Pass the Camembert. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Standalones and Opening stack via go url...?
FWIW...Solved it! When creating a standalone, I used the default settings in regards to the inclusions which is to Search for required inclusions when saving the standalone application. Having something work from the IDE but not from the Standalone means LiveCode apparently is not finding the right inclusions. I set it the standalone settings to manually select the inclusions. Then I selected all inclusions from Animation through Printing, built my standalone, and then everything worked. Then I went back and selected just the original three, Geometry, Internet, and Printing and it worked again. It seems like the radio button that has LiveCode search for inclusions in the Standalone Settings does not always find correct inclusions. My guess is since it uses a go ULR http://etc.etc... call it needs the Internet inclusion and was not getting it. Seems from now on it's best to guess which inclusions are needed and select those manually if you have a project working in the IDE but not as a standalone? Is this a common issue? Thanks! John Patten SUSD On Oct 12, 2011, at 3:26 PM, John Patten wrote: Hi All! I created a splash stack standalone that opens up a sub stack (Main App) stored in a local folder. From this stack, (Main App), I wish to open up a stack stored on a web server using the: go stack URL http://www.server.com/mysubstack; Here's the script I'm using in the Main App stack: put cd fld 1 into tAction --(this holds the url address of substack) put go stack URL quote tAction quote into tAction --(was having difficulty with quotes surrounding URL from web page to cd field, so did it this way) do tAction put specialfolderpath (documents) /OneButtonOneField/ into tMainStack put the short name of current stack into tCurrentStack save current stack as tMainStack / tCurrentStack This script works fine when everything is done in the IDE, however, when it runs from the standalone the second stack never opens the stack stored on the server. It also appears to save itself (Main App) as opposed to the stack I'm attempting to open??? Is what I'm attempting not possible in this fashion? (standalone -- stack -- go url http:...stack Thank You! John Patten SUSD ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: What does 'shadows' mean?
On 13 Oct 2011, at 12:46, Francis Nugent Dixon wrote: To define the workings of a four-stroke engine, I would always prefer English. To tell a woman how much I love her, I would always prefer French ! I once tried to explain the the (non)workings of a four-stroke engine to the woman I love - the language I used was... rather rapidly out of her earshot! ;-) Best, Keith.. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: So RunRev wants more of my money- what has been fixed?
Le 13 oct. 2011 à 19:54, Richmond Mathewson a écrit : Pass the Camembert. YES and... le Livarot, le Pont-l'évêque, le Morbier, le Neufchâtel, Le Comté, le Maroil, le Beaufort, le Brie, le Boursin, le Crotin de Chavignoles, le Bleu d'Auvergne, le Bleu de Bresse, la Brousse, le Chaumes, le Cantal, le Chabichou, l'Epoisses, la Tomme des Bauges, le Munster, le Reblochon, le Petit René... and so on http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liste_de_fromages_français You understand now why cheese is OT ? ;-) Bon souvenir de Paris et particulièrement pour Richmond ! ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: So RunRev wants more of my money- what has been fixed?
I'm sooo tempted to list all Dutch cheeses! -- Kind regards, Mark Schonewille Economy-x-Talk Http://economy-x-talk.com Share the clipboard of your computer over a local network with Clipboard Link http://clipboardlink.economy-x-talk.com Op 13 okt. 2011 om 20:46 heeft René Micout rene.mic...@numericable.com het volgende geschreven: YES and... le Livarot, le Pont-l'évêque, le Morbier, le Neufchâtel, Le Comté, le Maroil, le Beaufort, le Brie, le Boursin, le Crotin de Chavignoles, le Bleu d'Auvergne, le Bleu de Bresse, la Brousse, le Chaumes, le Cantal, le Chabichou, l'Epoisses, la Tomme des Bauges, le Munster, le Reblochon, le Petit René... and so on http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liste_de_fromages_français You understand now why cheese is OT ? ;-) Bon souvenir de Paris et particulièrement pour Richmond ! ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: So RunRev wants more of my money- what has been fixed?
On 10/13/2011 09:46 PM, René Micout wrote: Le 13 oct. 2011 à 19:54, Richmond Mathewson a écrit : Pass the Camembert. YES and... le Livarot, le Pont-l'évêque, le Morbier, le Neufchâtel, Le Comté, le Maroil, le Beaufort, le Brie, le Boursin, le Crotin de Chavignoles, le Bleu d'Auvergne, le Bleu de Bresse, la Brousse, le Chaumes, le Cantal, le Chabichou, l'Epoisses, la Tomme des Bauges, le Munster, le Reblochon, le Petit René... and so on http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liste_de_fromages_français You understand now why cheese is OT ? ;-) Bon souvenir de Paris et particulièrement pour Richmond ! J'aime beaucoup crot du diable (excusez-moi, sans un accent circonflex)! ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: So RunRev wants more of my money- what has been fixed?
On 10/13/2011 09:53 PM, Mark Schonewille wrote: I'm sooo tempted to list all Dutch cheeses! A very, very great disappointment to me that we cannot buy Nagel Kaas here in Bulgaria. -- Kind regards, Mark Schonewille Economy-x-Talk Http://economy-x-talk.com Share the clipboard of your computer over a local network with Clipboard Link http://clipboardlink.economy-x-talk.com Op 13 okt. 2011 om 20:46 heeft René Micoutrene.mic...@numericable.com het volgende geschreven: YES and... le Livarot, le Pont-l'évêque, le Morbier, le Neufchâtel, Le Comté, le Maroil, le Beaufort, le Brie, le Boursin, le Crotin de Chavignoles, le Bleu d'Auvergne, le Bleu de Bresse, la Brousse, le Chaumes, le Cantal, le Chabichou, l'Epoisses, la Tomme des Bauges, le Munster, le Reblochon, le Petit René... and so on http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liste_de_fromages_français You understand now why cheese is OT ? ;-) Bon souvenir de Paris et particulièrement pour Richmond ! ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: [ANN] minimal facebook library available
Guys, Thank you very much for the kind words and funding!!! If we started keeping track of beers, we'll see a strange attractor and in the end they will all be given to Scott Raney and Bill Aktinson (I probably got both names wrong). I am really happy that my little works are appreciated and that they help you guys in your works. Thanks again and I will keep the releases flowing, remember to hg pull every now and then! Cheers andre On Thu, Oct 13, 2011 at 2:36 PM, Alex Tweedly a...@tweedly.net wrote: You know, if we all gave Andre the 2 or 3 beers we each owe him, he'd be out of action for a long time :-) I had to Google 'JSON' to find out what it was but it was still a good idea to jump on the bandwagon. -- Alex. P.S. Andre - PebbleBeach is me. On 13/10/2011 17:10, Mark Wieder wrote: Keith- Thursday, October 13, 2011, 8:58:02 AM, you wrote: Yep, I jumped on the old band-wagon, too, as whilst I'd like to experiment with OAuth / SAML support and may need JSON at some time, I definitely owe Andre a beer or three already! Same here. __**_ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/**mailman/listinfo/use-livecodehttp://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode -- http://www.andregarzia.com -- All We Do Is Code. http://fon.nu -- minimalist url shortening service. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: So RunRev wants more of my money- what has been fixed?
On Thu, Oct 13, 2011 at 4:07 PM, Richmond Mathewson richmondmathew...@gmail.com wrote: On 10/13/2011 09:53 PM, Mark Schonewille wrote: I'm sooo tempted to list all Dutch cheeses! A very, very great disappointment to me that we cannot buy Nagel Kaas here in Bulgaria. try getting french cheese here in Brazil. It will cost you a kidney and an arm. Dutch cheese, no way! Heck, I almost cried when I found cheddar, real cheddar, here for the first time in 15 years. Brazilians think that cheddar is that processed stuff that macdonalds puts on sandwich. It gets worse, people here sell something called Dressing type cheddar (I am not joking) which is not really made of milk but of something that is grown and is not eaten by a cow. but on the other hand, Brazilian Minas Cheese ROCKS!!! -- Kind regards, Mark Schonewille Economy-x-Talk Http://economy-x-talk.com Share the clipboard of your computer over a local network with Clipboard Link http://clipboardlink.economy-**x-talk.comhttp://clipboardlink.economy-x-talk.com Op 13 okt. 2011 om 20:46 heeft René Micoutrene.micout@**numericable.comrene.mic...@numericable.com het volgende geschreven: YES and... le Livarot, le Pont-l'évêque, le Morbier, le Neufchâtel, Le Comté, le Maroil, le Beaufort, le Brie, le Boursin, le Crotin de Chavignoles, le Bleu d'Auvergne, le Bleu de Bresse, la Brousse, le Chaumes, le Cantal, le Chabichou, l'Epoisses, la Tomme des Bauges, le Munster, le Reblochon, le Petit René... and so on http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/** Liste_de_fromages_françaishttp://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liste_de_fromages_fran%C3%A7ais You understand now why cheese is OT ? ;-) Bon souvenir de Paris et particulièrement pour Richmond ! __**_ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/**mailman/listinfo/use-livecodehttp://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode __**_ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/**mailman/listinfo/use-livecodehttp://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode -- http://www.andregarzia.com -- All We Do Is Code. http://fon.nu -- minimalist url shortening service. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: So RunRev wants more of my money- what has been fixed?
As Oscar Wilde said: life imitates art. Surely no-one intended the interminable thread to mimic the Cheese Shop sketch from Monty Python? It seems like ideas just settle down into our sub-conscious, and we can't help but act them out (over and over again). Bernard On Thu, Oct 13, 2011 at 8:32 PM, Andre Garzia an...@andregarzia.com wrote: but on the other hand, Brazilian Minas Cheese ROCKS!!! ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
R.I.P Dennis Ritchie
Another giant passes. http://www.legacy.com/obituaries/sfgate/obituary.aspx?n=dennis-ritchiepid=154063273 ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: So RunRev wants more of my money- what has been fixed?
Oh dear! My innocent question seems to have resurrected the banned discussion. Pete Molly's Revenge http://www.mollysrevenge.com On Thu, Oct 13, 2011 at 12:59 PM, Bernard Devlin bdrun...@gmail.com wrote: As Oscar Wilde said: life imitates art. Surely no-one intended the interminable thread to mimic the Cheese Shop sketch from Monty Python? It seems like ideas just settle down into our sub-conscious, and we can't help but act them out (over and over again). Bernard On Thu, Oct 13, 2011 at 8:32 PM, Andre Garzia an...@andregarzia.com wrote: but on the other hand, Brazilian Minas Cheese ROCKS!!! ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: R.I.P Dennis Ritchie
He was one of my heroes...
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Re: on-rev livecodeServer 4.6.3 .irev .lc
Hi, just noticed that the actual version of Textastic now supports the extensions .lc, .irev, .rxt, .lcs. Great for editing livecode server scripts with the ipad. Regards, Matthias Am 28.07.2011 um 23:14 schrieb Ken Ray: On Jul 28, 2011, at 2:40 PM, Michael Kann wrote: Andre, Thanks for the info. It looks like you can use either the old irev server or the new liveCodeServer server, depending on the file extension you use. Cool! I've contacted the developer who makes Textastic (http://www.textasticapp.com/) an awesome iOS source-code editor for the iPad, to update his syntax colorization to support LiveCode files with .lc and .irev extensions. It *currently* supports LiveCode with a .lcs extension, but that was way back at the beginning when there wasn't an official extension for text-based LC files. I'll let everyone know when the update to Textastic accepts the new extensions... Ken Ray Sons of Thunder Software, Inc. Email: k...@sonsothunder.com Web Site: http://www.sonsothunder.com/ ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: So RunRev wants more of my money- what has been fixed?
...isn't that always the whey! On 13 Oct 2011, at 21:41, Pete wrote: Oh dear! My innocent question seems to have resurrected the banned discussion. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Anyone out there who uses TextMate for LiveCode editing?
Hi, is anyone on the list using TextMate(with syntax highlighting) for LiveCode editing? If so, where can i get/download the definitions for syntac highligthing? Regards, Matthias ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Anyone out there who uses TextMate for LiveCode editing?
Matthias, I use it for server development with LiveCode Server. I use the bundles available from RevIgniter site, you can get them here: http://revigniter.com/accessory :-) On Thu, Oct 13, 2011 at 5:56 PM, Matthias Rebbe matthias_livecode_150...@m-r-d.de wrote: Hi, is anyone on the list using TextMate(with syntax highlighting) for LiveCode editing? If so, where can i get/download the definitions for syntac highligthing? Regards, Matthias ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode -- http://www.andregarzia.com -- All We Do Is Code. http://fon.nu -- minimalist url shortening service. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Anyone out there who uses TextMate for LiveCode editing?
I love Textmate. I used to use Coda, but they became grumpy about improvements. But Textmate with Ralf Bitter's plugin works great. Even works well in Chalkboard mode. On 13 October 2011 14:02, Andre Garzia an...@andregarzia.com wrote: Matthias, I use it for server development with LiveCode Server. I use the bundles available from RevIgniter site, you can get them here: http://revigniter.com/accessory :-) On Thu, Oct 13, 2011 at 5:56 PM, Matthias Rebbe matthias_livecode_150...@m-r-d.de wrote: Hi, is anyone on the list using TextMate(with syntax highlighting) for LiveCode editing? If so, where can i get/download the definitions for syntac highligthing? Regards, Matthias ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode -- http://www.andregarzia.com -- All We Do Is Code. http://fon.nu -- minimalist url shortening service. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode -- Stephen Barncard San Francisco Ca. USA more about sqb http://www.google.com/profiles/sbarncar ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: So RunRev wants more of my money- what has been fixed?
I recognize that pun, from ages ago. On Oct 13, 2011, at 4:53 PM, Keith Clarke wrote: ...isn't that always the whey! ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Anyone out there who uses TextMate for LiveCode editing?
Hi, thanks Andre and Stephen. I am not very used with TextMate modification i am just using it. I have downloaded the revIgniter TMbundles. What do i have to next? I looked at the manual, but did not found anything about it. Maybe i am searching for the wrong terms. Regards, Matthias _ Matthias Rebbe Bramkampsieke 13 D-32312 Lübbecke Tel +49 57 41 - 31 00 00 mobil +49 160 - 550 44 62 Fax+49 57 41 - 310 0 02 E-Mail matth...@matthiasrebbe.eu http://www.matthiasrebbe.eu Am 13.10.2011 um 23:10 schrieb stephen barncard: I love Textmate. I used to use Coda, but they became grumpy about improvements. But Textmate with Ralf Bitter's plugin works great. Even works well in Chalkboard mode. On 13 October 2011 14:02, Andre Garzia an...@andregarzia.com wrote: Matthias, I use it for server development with LiveCode Server. I use the bundles available from RevIgniter site, you can get them here: http://revigniter.com/accessory :-) On Thu, Oct 13, 2011 at 5:56 PM, Matthias Rebbe matthias_livecode_150...@m-r-d.de wrote: Hi, is anyone on the list using TextMate(with syntax highlighting) for LiveCode editing? If so, where can i get/download the definitions for syntac highligthing? Regards, Matthias ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode -- http://www.andregarzia.com -- All We Do Is Code. http://fon.nu -- minimalist url shortening service. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode -- Stephen Barncard San Francisco Ca. USA more about sqb http://www.google.com/profiles/sbarncar ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: So RunRev wants more of my money- what has been fixed?
Help! Heather? Time, again, to ban imports of cheese. Paul Looney On Oct 13, 2011, at 12:32 PM, Andre Garzia wrote: On Thu, Oct 13, 2011 at 4:07 PM, Richmond Mathewson richmondmathew...@gmail.com wrote: On 10/13/2011 09:53 PM, Mark Schonewille wrote: I'm sooo tempted to list all Dutch cheeses! A very, very great disappointment to me that we cannot buy Nagel Kaas here in Bulgaria. try getting french cheese here in Brazil. It will cost you a kidney and an arm. Dutch cheese, no way! Heck, I almost cried when I found cheddar, real cheddar, here for the first time in 15 years. Brazilians think that cheddar is that processed stuff that macdonalds puts on sandwich. It gets worse, people here sell something called Dressing type cheddar (I am not joking) which is not really made of milk but of something that is grown and is not eaten by a cow. but on the other hand, Brazilian Minas Cheese ROCKS!!! -- Kind regards, Mark Schonewille Economy-x-Talk Http://economy-x-talk.com Share the clipboard of your computer over a local network with Clipboard Link http://clipboardlink.economy-**x-talk.comhttp://clipboardlink.economy-x-talk.com Op 13 okt. 2011 om 20:46 heeft René Micoutrene.micout@**numericable.comrene.mic...@numericable.com het volgende geschreven: YES and... le Livarot, le Pont-l'évêque, le Morbier, le Neufchâtel, Le Comté, le Maroil, le Beaufort, le Brie, le Boursin, le Crotin de Chavignoles, le Bleu d'Auvergne, le Bleu de Bresse, la Brousse, le Chaumes, le Cantal, le Chabichou, l'Epoisses, la Tomme des Bauges, le Munster, le Reblochon, le Petit René... and so on http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/** Liste_de_fromages_françaishttp://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liste_de_fromages_fran%C3%A7ais You understand now why cheese is OT ? ;-) Bon souvenir de Paris et particulièrement pour Richmond ! __**_ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/**mailman/listinfo/use-livecodehttp://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode __**_ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/**mailman/listinfo/use-livecodehttp://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode -- http://www.andregarzia.com -- All We Do Is Code. http://fon.nu -- minimalist url shortening service. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Anyone out there who uses TextMate for LiveCode editing?
Matthias, Check this out http://clarify-it.com/andregarzia/wz3nqy I made it for you with the new Clarify software from Blue Mango. Great tool! Cheers andre On Thu, Oct 13, 2011 at 6:19 PM, Matthias Rebbe matthias_livecode_150...@m-r-d.de wrote: Hi, thanks Andre and Stephen. I am not very used with TextMate modification i am just using it. I have downloaded the revIgniter TMbundles. What do i have to next? I looked at the manual, but did not found anything about it. Maybe i am searching for the wrong terms. Regards, Matthias _ Matthias Rebbe Bramkampsieke 13 D-32312 Lübbecke Tel +49 57 41 - 31 00 00 mobil +49 160 - 550 44 62 Fax+49 57 41 - 310 0 02 E-Mail matth...@matthiasrebbe.eu http://www.matthiasrebbe.eu Am 13.10.2011 um 23:10 schrieb stephen barncard: I love Textmate. I used to use Coda, but they became grumpy about improvements. But Textmate with Ralf Bitter's plugin works great. Even works well in Chalkboard mode. On 13 October 2011 14:02, Andre Garzia an...@andregarzia.com wrote: Matthias, I use it for server development with LiveCode Server. I use the bundles available from RevIgniter site, you can get them here: http://revigniter.com/accessory :-) On Thu, Oct 13, 2011 at 5:56 PM, Matthias Rebbe matthias_livecode_150...@m-r-d.de wrote: Hi, is anyone on the list using TextMate(with syntax highlighting) for LiveCode editing? If so, where can i get/download the definitions for syntac highligthing? Regards, Matthias ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode -- http://www.andregarzia.com -- All We Do Is Code. http://fon.nu -- minimalist url shortening service. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode -- Stephen Barncard San Francisco Ca. USA more about sqb http://www.google.com/profiles/sbarncar ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode -- http://www.andregarzia.com -- All We Do Is Code. http://fon.nu -- minimalist url shortening service. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Anyone out there who uses TextMate for LiveCode editing?
Just for me? Thank you very much. And thanks for reminding me of Clarify. That is on my list of apps i have to buy. Regards, Matthias Am 13.10.2011 um 23:33 schrieb Andre Garzia: Matthias, Check this out http://clarify-it.com/andregarzia/wz3nqy I made it for you with the new Clarify software from Blue Mango. Great tool! Cheers andre On Thu, Oct 13, 2011 at 6:19 PM, Matthias Rebbe matthias_livecode_150...@m-r-d.de wrote: Hi, thanks Andre and Stephen. I am not very used with TextMate modification i am just using it. I have downloaded the revIgniter TMbundles. What do i have to next? I looked at the manual, but did not found anything about it. Maybe i am searching for the wrong terms. Regards, Matthias _ Matthias Rebbe Bramkampsieke 13 D-32312 Lübbecke Tel +49 57 41 - 31 00 00 mobil +49 160 - 550 44 62 Fax+49 57 41 - 310 0 02 E-Mail matth...@matthiasrebbe.eu http://www.matthiasrebbe.eu Am 13.10.2011 um 23:10 schrieb stephen barncard: I love Textmate. I used to use Coda, but they became grumpy about improvements. But Textmate with Ralf Bitter's plugin works great. Even works well in Chalkboard mode. On 13 October 2011 14:02, Andre Garzia an...@andregarzia.com wrote: Matthias, I use it for server development with LiveCode Server. I use the bundles available from RevIgniter site, you can get them here: http://revigniter.com/accessory :-) On Thu, Oct 13, 2011 at 5:56 PM, Matthias Rebbe matthias_livecode_150...@m-r-d.de wrote: Hi, is anyone on the list using TextMate(with syntax highlighting) for LiveCode editing? If so, where can i get/download the definitions for syntac highligthing? Regards, Matthias ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode -- http://www.andregarzia.com -- All We Do Is Code. http://fon.nu -- minimalist url shortening service. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode -- Stephen Barncard San Francisco Ca. USA more about sqb http://www.google.com/profiles/sbarncar ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode -- http://www.andregarzia.com -- All We Do Is Code. http://fon.nu -- minimalist url shortening service. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Anyone out there who uses TextMate for LiveCode editing?
On Oct 13, 2011, at 3:56 PM, Matthias Rebbe wrote: Hi, is anyone on the list using TextMate(with syntax highlighting) for LiveCode editing? If so, where can i get/download the definitions for syntac highlighting? If you want to use it, there is the STS/MLX Editor which lets you hook up an external text editor to LiveCode so whenever you go to edit a script it opens it in your editor, and when you're done you save it in the editor and when you switch back to LC, the script is updated automatically. More info about it is here: http://www.sonsothunder.com/devres/revolution/downloads/stsMLXEditor.htm Ken Ray Sons of Thunder Software, Inc. Email: k...@sonsothunder.com Web Site: http://www.sonsothunder.com/ ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Anyone out there who uses TextMate for LiveCode editing?
On Thu, Oct 13, 2011 at 6:44 PM, Matthias Rebbe matthias_livecode_150...@m-r-d.de wrote: Just for me? Thank you very much. And thanks for reminding me of Clarify. That is on my list of apps i have to buy. It took couple minutes to build and I think some shots are worth a thousand of typos! :-) PS: I am a Clarify junkie. Cheers Regards, Matthias Am 13.10.2011 um 23:33 schrieb Andre Garzia: Matthias, Check this out http://clarify-it.com/andregarzia/wz3nqy I made it for you with the new Clarify software from Blue Mango. Great tool! Cheers andre On Thu, Oct 13, 2011 at 6:19 PM, Matthias Rebbe matthias_livecode_150...@m-r-d.de wrote: Hi, thanks Andre and Stephen. I am not very used with TextMate modification i am just using it. I have downloaded the revIgniter TMbundles. What do i have to next? I looked at the manual, but did not found anything about it. Maybe i am searching for the wrong terms. Regards, Matthias _ Matthias Rebbe Bramkampsieke 13 D-32312 Lübbecke Tel +49 57 41 - 31 00 00 mobil +49 160 - 550 44 62 Fax+49 57 41 - 310 0 02 E-Mail matth...@matthiasrebbe.eu http://www.matthiasrebbe.eu Am 13.10.2011 um 23:10 schrieb stephen barncard: I love Textmate. I used to use Coda, but they became grumpy about improvements. But Textmate with Ralf Bitter's plugin works great. Even works well in Chalkboard mode. On 13 October 2011 14:02, Andre Garzia an...@andregarzia.com wrote: Matthias, I use it for server development with LiveCode Server. I use the bundles available from RevIgniter site, you can get them here: http://revigniter.com/accessory :-) On Thu, Oct 13, 2011 at 5:56 PM, Matthias Rebbe matthias_livecode_150...@m-r-d.de wrote: Hi, is anyone on the list using TextMate(with syntax highlighting) for LiveCode editing? If so, where can i get/download the definitions for syntac highligthing? Regards, Matthias ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode -- http://www.andregarzia.com -- All We Do Is Code. http://fon.nu -- minimalist url shortening service. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode -- Stephen Barncard San Francisco Ca. USA more about sqb http://www.google.com/profiles/sbarncar ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode -- http://www.andregarzia.com -- All We Do Is Code. http://fon.nu -- minimalist url shortening service. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode -- http://www.andregarzia.com -- All We Do Is Code. http://fon.nu -- minimalist url shortening service. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Anyone out there who uses TextMate for LiveCode editing?
Ken, thanks for letting me know about that plugin. At the moment i do not get it to run with LiveCode 5.0 , but i believe that is caused by the GLX2 plugin which is also installed, but is disabled. Will investigate tomorrow. Btw.: looking at your site (transcript modules) reminded me of MonsieurX (MisterX), who left the community for some reasons in 2006. Regards, Matthias Am 13.10.2011 um 23:46 schrieb Ken Ray: On Oct 13, 2011, at 3:56 PM, Matthias Rebbe wrote: Hi, is anyone on the list using TextMate(with syntax highlighting) for LiveCode editing? If so, where can i get/download the definitions for syntac highlighting? If you want to use it, there is the STS/MLX Editor which lets you hook up an external text editor to LiveCode so whenever you go to edit a script it opens it in your editor, and when you're done you save it in the editor and when you switch back to LC, the script is updated automatically. More info about it is here: http://www.sonsothunder.com/devres/revolution/downloads/stsMLXEditor.htm Ken Ray Sons of Thunder Software, Inc. Email: k...@sonsothunder.com Web Site: http://www.sonsothunder.com/ ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
New Hardware old Habits
Recently, I broke down and got a new Windows XP based computer. And even though there has been much moaning and winging (how many of you guys are Poms?) about the new release of LC, and feeling flush, I thought it was time for an upgrade of Elsie 4 to 5. It was purchased and downloaded with no difficulty but upon installation LC 5.0 seems to have taken a walk.!!! The installation procedure didn't ask me if I wanted to make 5 the default version of LC it just went ahead and plunked 5 into the components folder and told me the job was all done. When I tried to link 5 up as the primary version of LC I wanted to use, I kept getting 4.6.4.. So I dutifully installed all versions prior to 5 from the new machine. Still no help. So I have installed 5 and reinstalled 4.6.4. Which works well. After that long-winded dissertation my simple question is this: What have I done wrong this time? Here's hoping someone has an answer that works. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
My Apps and iOS 5.0
Hi All, When running my apps under iOS 5.0 there are numerous screen re-draw problems… making the apps unusable. I've not yet built an app using LiveCode 5.0…. will that fix the problems with screen draws I'm seeing on iOS 5.0? Has anyone else seen this behavior? be well, randy hengst ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: My Apps and iOS 5.0
With earlier versions of iOS 5, LiveCode 4.6.4 would show large blank areas, LiveCode 5 was a lot better. With the release versions there are at least two oddities. Sometimes you get little bits of black lines when you move things, and strangely, when the card first draws it can be blue tinted. Not sure if it's an iOS 5.0 issue, or an LC 5.0 issue. On Oct 13, 2011, at 9:46 PM, Randy Hengst wrote: I've not yet built an app using LiveCode 5.0…. will that fix the problems with screen draws I'm seeing on iOS 5.0? ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Landscape Orientation iOS LC5
Hi, Has anyone noticed any anomalies with stack orientation under LC5 iOS. I and set a stack's orientation to landscape left. It works fine in the simulator and does start up landscape left. However it goes to portrait when I compile and test on the iPod. Any ideas what might be going on. Thanks, Debdoot ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Visible lines in a scrolling field.
Does anyone know how to find out what lines are currently visible in a field with a vertical scrollbar? More importantly can I find out just before they are scrolling into view so I can do some stuff to the line(s) just before/as they become visible? If I process all the lines (say for 2-3 hundred) it take waayyy too long for it to finish and the vertical scrollbar motion or highlighting 1 line will not happen until the entire list is processed. I put some constructive waits in and it reduces the problem but doesn't fix it. Thanks Ralph DiMola IT Director Evergreen Information Services ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Landscape Orientation iOS LC5
Did you really mean iPod? Joe Wilkins Joe Lewis Wilkins Architect and Director of Product Development 760-738-1721 On Oct 13, 2011, at 10:01 PM, ddas wrote: Hi, Has anyone noticed any anomalies with stack orientation under LC5 iOS. I and set a stack's orientation to landscape left. It works fine in the simulator and does start up landscape left. However it goes to portrait when I compile and test on the iPod. Any ideas what might be going on. Thanks, Debdoot ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Visible lines in a scrolling field.
Ralph, I would perform some calculations based on the textHeight and scroll of the field in question. You should know how many of the field's lines are displayed so this should give you the vertical coordinates of the field; calculate the rect of the top line and select that rectangle. This should highlight the line. It may be a bit more complex than this, but something similar should work. I'm not sure where you should place the handler that does all of this; probably in an Open Card script? I don't know enough about the situation to help you any more. HTH, Joe Wilkins On Oct 13, 2011, at 10:05 PM, Ralph DiMola wrote: Does anyone know how to find out what lines are currently visible in a field with a vertical scrollbar? More importantly can I find out just before they are scrolling into view so I can do some stuff to the line(s) just before/as they become visible? If I process all the lines (say for 2-3 hundred) it take waayyy too long for it to finish and the vertical scrollbar motion or highlighting 1 line will not happen until the entire list is processed. I put some constructive waits in and it reduces the problem but doesn't fix it. Thanks Ralph DiMola IT Director Evergreen Information Services ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Landscape Orientation iOS LC5
Debdoot, That sounds like an awful arrangement. Lots of luck. Not my cup of tea. Joe Wilkins On Oct 13, 2011, at 10:13 PM, ddas wrote: Sans access to an iphone or ipad, I test on an ipod touch (3rd gen I think). Yes i did mean iPod :-) -Debdoot On Oct 14, 2011, at 1:06 AM, Joe Lewis Wilkins wrote: Did you really mean iPod? Joe Wilkins On Oct 13, 2011, at 10:01 PM, ddas wrote: Hi, Has anyone noticed any anomalies with stack orientation under LC5 iOS. I and set a stack's orientation to landscape left. It works fine in the simulator and does start up landscape left. However it goes to portrait when I compile and test on the iPod. Any ideas what might be going on. Thanks, Debdoot ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: New Hardware old Habits
Cal- Thursday, October 13, 2011, 4:34:49 PM, you wrote: The installation procedure didn't ask me if I wanted to make 5 the default version of LC it just went ahead and plunked 5 into the components folder and told me the job was all done. If you're talking about associating an executable with a filetype so that you can double-click files and have the IDE launch, you have to remember that you're dealing with Microsoft here, and so you have to do things backwards and use the Restore button to assign a program: Open a Windows Explorer window to any directory Go to the Tools folder and select Folder Options Click on the File Types tab Down at the bottom of the pane click the Restore button (the Change button won't do anything) Now click on Advanced (to affect all .xx files) Click on Edit... Click on Browse... Navigate to the LiveCode.exe file of your choice Click OK Click OK again to dismiss the Edit File Type dialog Click Close on the Folder Options dialog Now double-click on a livecode stack -- -Mark Wieder mwie...@ahsoftware.net ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
