[OT] Re: Crashing Ubuntu 11.10 with LC 4.5
On 12/27/2011 01:45 PM, Bernard Devlin wrote: I was so appalled by the latest Ubuntu, I switched to Mint. Ubuntu had become as slow as using Windows Vista. No wonder Mint has taken off. Whilst the main charts in the link below are based on DistroWatch (arguably a sign of what cutting-edge linux users are up to), the chart further down the page showing Google search data indicates that the claim that Ubuntu is losing out to Mint has some basis. http://royal.pingdom.com/2011/11/23/ubuntu-linux-losing-popularity-fast-new-unity-interface-to-blame/ My negative experience with Ubuntu last month was what drove me to look at Mint, which I'd vaguely heard of over the past few years. Bernard Well, I'm just about to hop on the plane for my annual visit to Britain (which will include dephlogisticating my parents' laptop, which was running Ubuntu 10.10, which has gone very sour since my Father couldn't resist clicking on distro-upgrade and getting b*ggered by Unity. I am, right now, wondering whether I should reinstall Ubuntu 10.10 and lock-down the upgrade option, or go for Mint 12 with MATE The whole MATE thing has come about because the powers that be in the Debian world have mucked around with the repositories in such a way that one cannot, say, install Ubuntu 11.10 and then GNOME 2 using apt-get. Since the Linux people go on, and on, and on, tiresomely about choice this is a crock of sh*t. As I seem to be unable to get Mint 12 to behave itself in Virtual Box I am a bit nervous about spending donkey's ages on a real laptop only to find out that I have ended up with a 'pup'. Of course, the other option, is just to install XFCE on my parents' existing setup; although that sounds like a fudge. Here in Bulgaria, I am living with Ubuntu 11.10 just at the moment, having got things reasonably the way I want things with Avant Window Manager; however Compiz keeps dying on me, Nautilus has periodic 'headaches', and the whole thing is most definitely not what-it-should-be. And, as you will see from the Use-List yesterday, I managed to get the GUI to lock-up completely with LC 4.5 . . . which made me hopping mad. I only wish I knew a way to get that flaming launcher thing to go away for ever, as it keeps popping up like a bad penny, over on the left, whenever I have to enter a password, with annoying frequency, and to no obvious purpose. I have been a big, big fan of Avant Window Manager since I started seriously transitioning from Mac to Linux, and the Dock-like setup of AWN really makes me feel right at home; especially, as it has a Start Menu option that replaces that that was present in GNOME 2 and has been chucked away with Unity and GNOME 3. I am unaware of my machine running noticeably more slowly than when I had SalineOS on it: Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 3.00GHz, RAM 2.0 GB But I have never been unduly bothered about shaving seconds off here and there, or not having time for the odd gulp of coffee . . . :) I may be a naughty boy and use M D's laptop as a guinea-pig, and install Mint 12 with MATE to see what it's like; if I like it I'll install it here when I come back, and if M D like it, that's groovy; failing that they'll get Ubuntu 10.10 with all upgrades disabled. What GNOME 3 plus Mono-Sodium-GlutaMATE will look like is anybody's guess; and as to functionality; hmm On Mon, Dec 26, 2011 at 8:38 PM, Peter Alcibiades palcibiades-fi...@yahoo.co.uk wrote: Stay with Ubuntu for now, but install fluxbox and see if it still happens. At least you'll know if its Ubuntu or Gnome3. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Crashing Ubuntu 11.10 with LC 4.5
I was so appalled by the latest Ubuntu, I switched to Mint. Ubuntu had become as slow as using Windows Vista. No wonder Mint has taken off. Whilst the main charts in the link below are based on DistroWatch (arguably a sign of what cutting-edge linux users are up to), the chart further down the page showing Google search data indicates that the claim that Ubuntu is losing out to Mint has some basis. http://royal.pingdom.com/2011/11/23/ubuntu-linux-losing-popularity-fast-new-unity-interface-to-blame/ My negative experience with Ubuntu last month was what drove me to look at Mint, which I'd vaguely heard of over the past few years. Bernard On Mon, Dec 26, 2011 at 8:38 PM, Peter Alcibiades palcibiades-fi...@yahoo.co.uk wrote: Stay with Ubuntu for now, but install fluxbox and see if it still happens. At least you'll know if its Ubuntu or Gnome3. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: How do you do it??
Please go back and read the emails set to explain why it will not work. You may have passed over them in frustration. In the below example (which is not like the first example you provided) you still have the same problem. You are concatenating a DO statement with a multiple line value. So if fld 1 contained: test1 test2 then your DO statement would look like put test1 test2 into fld 2 Now the compiler will try to compile that as a single script before executing it. It gets the first command put test1 which if executed on it's own will put the literal value test1 into the message box. . It does not however get the next line test 2 into fld 2. See? That will not compile. Try it. Type only fld 1 into fld 2 into the message box and see what you get. Now why would you concatenate a DO statement in this situation anyway? It's pointless. Just: put fld 1 into fld 2 Why create a DO statement to do that? Bob On Dec 23, 2011, at 3:00 PM, dunb...@aol.com wrote: Mike. Not sure I am getting this. I have two fields, one with several lines of text (fld 1). on mouseUp put fld 1 into foo do put foo into fld 2 end mouseUp This fails. If fld 1 contains only one line, no problem, as everyone but me seems to know. Please tell me again. Thanks, Craig -Original Message- From: Mike Bonner bonnm...@gmail.com To: How to use LiveCode use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Sent: Fri, Dec 23, 2011 12:42 pm Subject: Re: How do you do it?? Well yeah because do is a unit. part fails, all fail so the AA never gets to the msg box. Explanation still stands though. On Fri, Dec 23, 2011 at 3:29 PM, Bob Sneidar b...@twft.com wrote: It won't even put AA into the message box. It will try to compile the entire do statement first, and upon failing will just throw an error. Bob On Dec 23, 2011, at 1:58 PM, Mike Bonner wrote: put AA BB into temp2 So it will put AA into the message box, and error out on the next line since there is no handler named BB ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: How do you do it??
Oh sorry ignore my last post. Bob On Dec 23, 2011, at 6:50 PM, dunb...@aol.com wrote: Of course. I have overdone the do construction by not including the whole statement in quotes. I am so used to having to break out literals from variables, reassembling them meticulously into a single line, that I missed this very expected result. Thanks... Craig -Original Message- From: Bob Sneidar b...@twft.com To: How to use LiveCode use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Sent: Fri, Dec 23, 2011 1:20 pm Subject: Re: How do you do it?? Hmmm lemme follow this as pseudo code: when the mouse is clicked put AA and a carriage return and BB into the variable it on the first pass of a repeat loop, try to do the command put followed by the word it followed by the contents of the variable it (it's two lines you know) followed by into temp1. The statement you are trying to do will look like this: do put AA BB into temp1 Well you see what went wrong don't you? The do command does not know what to do with what comes after AA. It cannot even compile it. This is why it is a MUCH better idea to put your command into a variable, and then do the variable. You could then have stepped through the code and seen what the DO command looked like before you tried to do it. It may seem like wisdom at first to try to mash all the code into one compact statement, but there is no gain in performance, and there is a HUGE downside of not being able to debug it. Try this instead: on mouseUp get AA return BB -- get AA repeat with y = 1 to 2 put put line y of it into temp y into theCommand do theCommand end repeat answer temp1 comma temp2 end mouseUp You will get AA,BB Bob On Dec 23, 2011, at 1:43 PM, dunb...@aol.com wrote: Why do LC (and HC for that matter) fail to process multi-line variables when using do? If the variable it contains one line, the do construction works fine, making numbered temp variables as needed. But if I try the routine with a multi-line it, the handler will not compile. LC complains as: execution error at line 5 (do: error in source expression) near put AA, char 1 HC complains as well, that it cannot understand BB. It seems that the routine breaks simply because of the other lines, that is, the next line in it is not understandable by the parser. I wonder why it bothers to look there. Don't tell me I need two levels of do: (do do put...) Just kidding, that fails also. Just asking. Craig Newman ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: revOpenDatabase Problem
After opening it, and inside a try/catch statement just use select TRUE as connected and get the query as a string. If it throws an error you know something is wrong. One thing I like to do in database driven apps is create handlers called dbopen, dbclose, dbIdle isConnected. In those handlers I put the database commands inside try/catch constructs, and return false when I fail. Before any query I will call isConnected, which attempts to do some arbitrary thing with the database, like select TRUE as connected, which will return 1 if it succeeds and throw an error if it doesn't. When I am done I call dbIdle which closes the connection (good practice because the server is going to disconnect you anyway after a certain amount of time). The Open function attempts a connection to the database with the options the user entered on a setup card. If successful, I set a global I can check in the future to make sure I successfully connected on startup. If the global is false, then I prevent any interaction with the app, sometimes quitting (if not in development). By doing this I don't have to recode error handling every place I need to query. isConnected, upon failing will exit to top after alerting the user that something is wrong. The close handler will close all cursors and database handlers, but this is not strictly necessary, as dbIdle. Since using sqlYoga, this is all rather moot anyway, as this kind of functionality is built into it. Bob On Dec 26, 2011, at 1:33 PM, Pete wrote: Using revOpenDatabase to open an sqlite database using a file that is not an sqlite database return an integer as if the database was successfully opened. Any subsequent db accesses fail of course but I wonder why revOpenDatabase doesn't return an error? -- Pete Molly's Revenge http://www.mollysrevenge.com ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Point at which speaking is stopped? and ANN: Text to Speech
I get No such card Bob On Dec 26, 2011, at 3:41 PM, Jim Hurley wrote: Roger, It is even better for proofreading. I have put my Text to Speech up on the web. Run this in the message box. go url http://www.jamesphurley.com/TextToSpeech.rev; Jim Hurley Roger Eller wrote: I like it! I used your post as the text to read aloud via your script. With a little more code to add active sentence highlighting, and handle other oddities in text like (? with ?.), it becomes a pretty nice screen reader that you can follow along visually. I could see this growing into a great teaching aid for reading. ˜Roger ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Case Study: Behaviors Failing - Can't set break points
Hello, I just ran into this issue and I thought I would share it. I thought I was loading my Behavior's into memory before using them but I wasn't. Here is what it looked like when it was failing. I have some buttons that have behaviors set on them. When you control-click on them and look at Send Message, the commands that are associated with the behavior are there. So, I thought, the button is clearly linked to it's behavior. However using Dispatch to send the message results in unhandled. It was not seeing the behavior's handlers. If I use the Send form I can see that the message is sent to the Button, but is not picked up by the Behavior, just the Button. Even if there is no handler for the message in the button. I can tell this by stepping through with the debugger. The debugger goes to the button's Script ( not the behavior's script ) even though the script is empty. It never makes it on to the behavior. I also noticed that I couldn't set Break Points in the behavior scripts in the debugger when this condition happened. They just didn't work. In all cases, I can it by simply resetting the behavior to itself, like so: *set *the behavior of tControl to the behavior of tControl So whats the deal? The button appears to be linked to the behavior? But I can't send it messages? And I can't set break points in the Behavior scripts. Well the problem is that the behaviors are not in memory when the buttons that use them are placed into memory. I thought that they were because I was loading the stack containing the Behaviors as part of the PreOpenCard in my first stack. So the Behaviors were in a second stack. And they were being referenced by the first stack. I think the docs point this out, but I was confused by the apparent linking, and the fact that I thought loading on PreOpenCard or PreOpenStack would be enough. But its not. I am including behaviors in a Library stack, instead of embedding them into a the stacks that use them. These are pure code Behaviors, no UI. And they are part of the larger feature set provided by the library. I wanted to be able to keep the library and it's behavior's separate. So either I will have to build a launcher file that just loads the library first or build in re-linking, which may not be a bad thing anyway. ??? Todd ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Launcher stacks on iOS etc.
Hello, Clearly on the desktop, using a launcher file to start up the solution makes a lot of sense. It seems very helpful in terms of managing updates, setting up the environmment etc. But I am curious is it still a good idea for things like iOS etc? I am curious to hear from folks who have stuff in the app stores. Do you still use a launcher file? Thanks Todd ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Strange Datagrid Behavior
Delete the first datagrid and when it throws an error that is where whatever code is referencing the first datagrid literally. It sounds at first blush like you set the behavior to something other than the datagrid library, and then did some custom work with that behavior, referring to the first datagrid literally somewhere in the behavior script. Alternately, you can try edit the script of the behavior of mySecondDataGrid and then search for the name of the first datagrid. Bob On Dec 26, 2011, at 5:28 PM, Pete wrote: I have two datagrids on a card. When the user clicks on an option menu on the card, the datagrids are populated with information in two different formats, at least that's what's supposed to happen. I do this by setting the dgText of each datagrid to the value of a variable. When I set the dgText of the first datagrid (stepping through in debug), I see the correct data show up. When I set the dgText of the second datagrid, it appears in the first datagrid and the second datagrid remains empty!! The datagrids have different names. I have checked the row template property to make sure it has not somehow been set to the wrong datagrid but they are both correct. I have checked the value of the dgContorl property of each datagrid and it is correct also. I will say that these datagrids have have a somewhat checkered past. They originally existed on a different card than they reside on now, and all worked fine back in those good old days. For application design reasons, I copied them (and a few other controls) from the original card to a different card and put them all into a group. That's when the problems started. Any ideas on how I might track down this strange behavior? -- Pete Molly's Revenge http://www.mollysrevenge.com ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Point at which speaking is stopped? and ANN: Text to Speech
It is a .livecode file: go url http://www.jamesphurley.com/TextToSpeech.livecode; On Tue, Dec 27, 2011 at 12:37 PM, Bob Sneidar wrote: I get No such card Bob On Dec 26, 2011, at 3:41 PM, Jim Hurley wrote: Roger, It is even better for proofreading. I have put my Text to Speech up on the web. Run this in the message box. go url http://www.jamesphurley.com/TextToSpeech.rev; Jim Hurley ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: revOpenDatabase Problem
All good stuff but none of it tells me if I've opened an sqlite database :-) You may have missed the post about opening the file as a regular file and checking the first 16 bytes - that's the solution I used, seems to work just great. On Tue, Dec 27, 2011 at 9:35 AM, Bob Sneidar b...@twft.com wrote: After opening it, and inside a try/catch statement just use select TRUE as connected and get the query as a string. If it throws an error you know something is wrong. One thing I like to do in database driven apps is create handlers called dbopen, dbclose, dbIdle isConnected. In those handlers I put the database commands inside try/catch constructs, and return false when I fail. Before any query I will call isConnected, which attempts to do some arbitrary thing with the database, like select TRUE as connected, which will return 1 if it succeeds and throw an error if it doesn't. When I am done I call dbIdle which closes the connection (good practice because the server is going to disconnect you anyway after a certain amount of time). The Open function attempts a connection to the database with the options the user entered on a setup card. If successful, I set a global I can check in the future to make sure I successfully connected on startup. If the global is false, then I prevent any interaction with the app, sometimes quitting (if not in development). By doing this I don't have to recode error handling every place I need to query. isConnected, upon failing will exit to top after alerting the user that something is wrong. The close handler will close all cursors and database handlers, but this is not strictly necessary, as dbIdle. Since using sqlYoga, this is all rather moot anyway, as this kind of functionality is built into it. Bob On Dec 26, 2011, at 1:33 PM, Pete wrote: Using revOpenDatabase to open an sqlite database using a file that is not an sqlite database return an integer as if the database was successfully opened. Any subsequent db accesses fail of course but I wonder why revOpenDatabase doesn't return an error? -- Pete Molly's Revenge http://www.mollysrevenge.com ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode -- Pete Molly's Revenge http://www.mollysrevenge.com ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Launcher stacks on iOS etc.
Hi Todd, For testing, it is a good idea. You could save your work in your personal web folder (on mac) and run your stack on an iOS device right-away. For the iTunes store, I wouldn't recommend it because apple may not allow you to for load additional code. -- Kind regards, Mark Schonewille Economy-x-Talk Http://economy-x-talk.com Share the clipboard of your computer over a local network with Clipboard Link http://clipboardlink.economy-x-talk.com Op 27 dec. 2011 om 18:42 heeft Todd Geist t...@geistinteractive.com het volgende geschreven: Hello, Clearly on the desktop, using a launcher file to start up the solution makes a lot of sense. It seems very helpful in terms of managing updates, setting up the environmment etc. But I am curious is it still a good idea for things like iOS etc? I am curious to hear from folks who have stuff in the app stores. Do you still use a launcher file? Thanks Todd ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Case Study: Behaviors Failing - Can't set break points
On Tue, Dec 27, 2011 at 10:14 AM, Bob Sneidar b...@twft.com wrote: Where are the behavior buttons located? They have to be in the open stack or *AN* open stack. I may be mistaken about this, but I think I am not. I have a behavior button on the first card of an app stack, and all my behaviors work fine there. They should also work if they are on the first card of any stack you start using. Someone who knows more should correct me if I am wrong. The behaviors are in a library stack. That stack was being loaded by the Main stack, in a PreOpenCard handler. the Main stack was also using the behaviors. They are two separate stacks. So the Main stack loads into memory, then On PreOpenCard it loads the Library stack that has the behaviors. This is the problem. If the library stack is loaded first into memory, everything works. So I may need a launcher file that Loads the Libraries first THEN the main stack. Todd ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Case Study: Behaviors Failing - Can't set break points
Where are the behavior buttons located? They have to be in the open stack or *AN* open stack. I may be mistaken about this, but I think I am not. I have a behavior button on the first card of an app stack, and all my behaviors work fine there. They should also work if they are on the first card of any stack you start using. Someone who knows more should correct me if I am wrong. Bob On Dec 27, 2011, at 9:36 AM, Todd Geist wrote: Hello, I just ran into this issue and I thought I would share it. I thought I was loading my Behavior's into memory before using them but I wasn't. Here is what it looked like when it was failing. I have some buttons that have behaviors set on them. When you control-click on them and look at Send Message, the commands that are associated with the behavior are there. So, I thought, the button is clearly linked to it's behavior. However using Dispatch to send the message results in unhandled. It was not seeing the behavior's handlers. If I use the Send form I can see that the message is sent to the Button, but is not picked up by the Behavior, just the Button. Even if there is no handler for the message in the button. I can tell this by stepping through with the debugger. The debugger goes to the button's Script ( not the behavior's script ) even though the script is empty. It never makes it on to the behavior. I also noticed that I couldn't set Break Points in the behavior scripts in the debugger when this condition happened. They just didn't work. In all cases, I can it by simply resetting the behavior to itself, like so: *set *the behavior of tControl to the behavior of tControl So whats the deal? The button appears to be linked to the behavior? But I can't send it messages? And I can't set break points in the Behavior scripts. Well the problem is that the behaviors are not in memory when the buttons that use them are placed into memory. I thought that they were because I was loading the stack containing the Behaviors as part of the PreOpenCard in my first stack. So the Behaviors were in a second stack. And they were being referenced by the first stack. I think the docs point this out, but I was confused by the apparent linking, and the fact that I thought loading on PreOpenCard or PreOpenStack would be enough. But its not. I am including behaviors in a Library stack, instead of embedding them into a the stacks that use them. These are pure code Behaviors, no UI. And they are part of the larger feature set provided by the library. I wanted to be able to keep the library and it's behavior's separate. So either I will have to build a launcher file that just loads the library first or build in re-linking, which may not be a bad thing anyway. ??? Todd ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Launcher stacks on iOS etc.
Hi Mark, I wasn't thinking of using a launcher to load additional code from the internet on iOS. that would be cool, but I would guess you are right, that it wouldn't be allowed. But I was thinking more along the lines of having a place to load stuff and setup the environment before launching the main stack. Are there reasons why this can't or shouldn't be done on iOS or android, etc. Todd On Tue, Dec 27, 2011 at 10:00 AM, Mark Schonewille m.schonewi...@economy-x-talk.com wrote: Hi Todd, For testing, it is a good idea. You could save your work in your personal web folder (on mac) and run your stack on an iOS device right-away. For the iTunes store, I wouldn't recommend it because apple may not allow you to for load additional code. -- Kind regards, Mark Schonewille Economy-x-Talk Http://economy-x-talk.com Share the clipboard of your computer over a local network with Clipboard Link http://clipboardlink.economy-x-talk.com Op 27 dec. 2011 om 18:42 heeft Todd Geist t...@geistinteractive.com het volgende geschreven: Hello, Clearly on the desktop, using a launcher file to start up the solution makes a lot of sense. It seems very helpful in terms of managing updates, setting up the environmment etc. But I am curious is it still a good idea for things like iOS etc? I am curious to hear from folks who have stuff in the app stores. Do you still use a launcher file? Thanks Todd ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode -- Todd Geist (805) 419-9382 ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Re: Point at which speaking is stopped? and ANN: Text to Speech
Roger, Very resourceful of you to discover, not just the typo, but the correction. It is indeed a livecode file so: go url http://www.jamesphurley.com/TextToSpeech.livecode; Jim Hurley Message: 14 Date: Tue, 27 Dec 2011 12:49:24 -0500 From: Roger Eller roger.e.el...@sealedair.com To: How to use LiveCode use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Subject: Re: Point at which speaking is stopped? and ANN: Text to Speech Message-ID: CAAT6EXOjqBcFw+xNMOo6GwWO=+8oKJjUXNBJSiE+G=46xsf...@mail.gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 It is a .livecode file: go url http://www.jamesphurley.com/TextToSpeech.livecode; On Tue, Dec 27, 2011 at 12:37 PM, Bob Sneidar wrote: I get No such card Bob On Dec 26, 2011, at 3:41 PM, Jim Hurley wrote: Roger, It is even better for proofreading. I have put my Text to Speech up on the web. Run this in the message box. go url http://www.jamesphurley.com/TextToSpeech.rev; Jim Hurley -- Message: 15 Date: Tue, 27 Dec 2011 09:50:28 -0800 From: Pete p...@mollysrevenge.com To: How to use LiveCode use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Subject: Re: revOpenDatabase Problem Message-ID: CABx6j9=crfd2bruwkm0gvd3ypy3vwckgq5fepffxh5+arjn...@mail.gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 All good stuff but none of it tells me if I've opened an sqlite database :-) You may have missed the post about opening the file as a regular file and checking the first 16 bytes - that's the solution I used, seems to work just great. On Tue, Dec 27, 2011 at 9:35 AM, Bob Sneidar b...@twft.com wrote: After opening it, and inside a try/catch statement just use select TRUE as connected and get the query as a string. If it throws an error you know something is wrong. One thing I like to do in database driven apps is create handlers called dbopen, dbclose, dbIdle isConnected. In those handlers I put the database commands inside try/catch constructs, and return false when I fail. Before any query I will call isConnected, which attempts to do some arbitrary thing with the database, like select TRUE as connected, which will return 1 if it succeeds and throw an error if it doesn't. When I am done I call dbIdle which closes the connection (good practice because the server is going to disconnect you anyway after a certain amount of time). The Open function attempts a connection to the database with the options the user entered on a setup card. If successful, I set a global I can check in the future to make sure I successfully connected on startup. If the global is false, then I prevent any interaction with the app, sometimes quitting (if not in development). By doing this I don't have to recode error handling every place I need to query. isConnected, upon failing will exit to top after alerting the user that something is wrong. The close handler will close all cursors and database handlers, but this is not strictly necessary, as dbIdle. Since using sqlYoga, this is all rather moot anyway, as this kind of functionality is built into it. Bob On Dec 26, 2011, at 1:33 PM, Pete wrote: Using revOpenDatabase to open an sqlite database using a file that is not an sqlite database return an integer as if the database was successfully opened. Any subsequent db accesses fail of course but I wonder why revOpenDatabase doesn't return an error? -- Pete Molly's Revenge http://www.mollysrevenge.com ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode -- Pete Molly's Revenge http://www.mollysrevenge.com -- ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode End of use-livecode Digest, Vol 99, Issue 50 ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Case Study: Behaviors Failing - Can't set break points
Ah, IC. Are you using 5.02? There is the thread about things not loading in the order you would expect with version 5.02. Might it have something to do with that? Bob On Dec 27, 2011, at 10:23 AM, Todd Geist wrote: On Tue, Dec 27, 2011 at 10:14 AM, Bob Sneidar b...@twft.com wrote: Where are the behavior buttons located? They have to be in the open stack or *AN* open stack. I may be mistaken about this, but I think I am not. I have a behavior button on the first card of an app stack, and all my behaviors work fine there. They should also work if they are on the first card of any stack you start using. Someone who knows more should correct me if I am wrong. The behaviors are in a library stack. That stack was being loaded by the Main stack, in a PreOpenCard handler. the Main stack was also using the behaviors. They are two separate stacks. So the Main stack loads into memory, then On PreOpenCard it loads the Library stack that has the behaviors. This is the problem. If the library stack is loaded first into memory, everything works. So I may need a launcher file that Loads the Libraries first THEN the main stack. Todd ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Launcher stacks on iOS etc.
Hi Todd, Sure, you can do that, but there is a small syntax problem. I think that go stack works, but go stack in window doesn't. This won't keep you from making a launcher, but it is useful to know ;) -- Kind regards, Mark Schonewille Economy-x-Talk Http://economy-x-talk.com Share the clipboard of your computer over a local network with Clipboard Link http://clipboardlink.economy-x-talk.com Op 27 dec. 2011 om 19:18 heeft Todd Geist t...@geistinteractive.com het volgende geschreven: Hi Mark, I wasn't thinking of using a launcher to load additional code from the internet on iOS. that would be cool, but I would guess you are right, that it wouldn't be allowed. But I was thinking more along the lines of having a place to load stuff and setup the environment before launching the main stack. Are there reasons why this can't or shouldn't be done on iOS or android, etc. Todd ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Case Study: Behaviors Failing - Can't set break points
Are the behavior buttons in the actual library stack or in a substack of the library stack? I've run into a similar problem before and ending setting thew stackFiles property of the app's main stack to name the behavior stack. Pete On Tue, Dec 27, 2011 at 10:23 AM, Todd Geist t...@geistinteractive.comwrote: On Tue, Dec 27, 2011 at 10:14 AM, Bob Sneidar b...@twft.com wrote: Where are the behavior buttons located? They have to be in the open stack or *AN* open stack. I may be mistaken about this, but I think I am not. I have a behavior button on the first card of an app stack, and all my behaviors work fine there. They should also work if they are on the first card of any stack you start using. Someone who knows more should correct me if I am wrong. The behaviors are in a library stack. That stack was being loaded by the Main stack, in a PreOpenCard handler. the Main stack was also using the behaviors. They are two separate stacks. So the Main stack loads into memory, then On PreOpenCard it loads the Library stack that has the behaviors. This is the problem. If the library stack is loaded first into memory, everything works. So I may need a launcher file that Loads the Libraries first THEN the main stack. Todd ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode -- Pete Molly's Revenge http://www.mollysrevenge.com ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Case Study: Behaviors Failing - Can't set break points
I am using 5.0.2. But I am not sure if thats the issue. I looked for the thread you referenced but I can't find it, any hints on the keywords? Thanks Todd On Tue, Dec 27, 2011 at 10:36 AM, Bob Sneidar b...@twft.com wrote: Ah, IC. Are you using 5.02? There is the thread about things not loading in the order you would expect with version 5.02. Might it have something to do with that? -- Todd Geist (805) 419-9382 ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Case Study: Behaviors Failing - Can't set break points
They are in the Library Stack itself not a substack. So you essentially injected the Library stack into the Main stack? On Tue, Dec 27, 2011 at 10:39 AM, Pete p...@mollysrevenge.com wrote: Are the behavior buttons in the actual library stack or in a substack of the library stack? I've run into a similar problem before and ending setting thew stackFiles property of the app's main stack to name the behavior stack. Pete Todd ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
OT Password protection of RR server?
I am a novice at this sort of thing, so bear with me. I have an account on RR's server. The domain servers are listed as: NS2.ON-REV.COM NS1.ON-REV.COM I would like to password protect a page. Is there anything about the RR server that affects how that should be done? I'm not looking for anything serious; I don't mind if my protection is foiled; I just want the user know that the page was not designed for the general public. Some simple HTML text in the header would be nice. Jim ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Re: Point at which speaking is stopped? and ANN: Text to Speech
On Tue, Dec 27, 2011 at 1:30 PM, Jim Hurley wrote: Roger, Very resourceful of you to discover, not just the typo, but the correction. It is indeed a livecode file so: go url http://www.jamesphurley.com/TextToSpeech.livecode; Jim Hurley I got a good laugh at your proof reading example. I also like how it resumes speaking at the location clicked. Nice! ˜Roger ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Case Study: Behaviors Failing - Can't set break points
OK, not exactly the same issue I had but stackfiles might still help. If your behaviors don't use a fully qualified stack file name (eg button id 1020 of stack Behaviors), a stackfiles entry naming Behaviors and its fully qualified stackfile path enables LC to resolve the behavior references. Not sure if that's your situation but maybe that will help. Pete On Tue, Dec 27, 2011 at 10:47 AM, Todd Geist t...@geistinteractive.comwrote: They are in the Library Stack itself not a substack. So you essentially injected the Library stack into the Main stack? On Tue, Dec 27, 2011 at 10:39 AM, Pete p...@mollysrevenge.com wrote: Are the behavior buttons in the actual library stack or in a substack of the library stack? I've run into a similar problem before and ending setting thew stackFiles property of the app's main stack to name the behavior stack. Pete Todd ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode -- Pete Molly's Revenge http://www.mollysrevenge.com ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Point at which speaking is stopped? and ANN: Text to Speech
Yes, I like that too. In fact, the text to speech is actually better than a lot of audio books I have heard! ;-) Bob On Dec 27, 2011, at 11:11 AM, Roger Eller wrote: On Tue, Dec 27, 2011 at 1:30 PM, Jim Hurley wrote: Roger, Very resourceful of you to discover, not just the typo, but the correction. It is indeed a livecode file so: go url http://www.jamesphurley.com/TextToSpeech.livecode; Jim Hurley I got a good laugh at your proof reading example. I also like how it resumes speaking at the location clicked. Nice! ˜Roger ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Case Study: Behaviors Failing - Can't set break points
Good point. The proper syntax *should* be set the behavior of object to the long id of button the button object. If the behavior script button is located on the first card of the stack the object is in, then you can use shorter versions, but why risk it? In your case, since the behavior is in a library, use the long ID. Bob On Dec 27, 2011, at 11:23 AM, Pete wrote: OK, not exactly the same issue I had but stackfiles might still help. If your behaviors don't use a fully qualified stack file name (eg button id 1020 of stack Behaviors), a stackfiles entry naming Behaviors and its fully qualified stackfile path enables LC to resolve the behavior references. Not sure if that's your situation but maybe that will help. Pete On Tue, Dec 27, 2011 at 10:47 AM, Todd Geist t...@geistinteractive.comwrote: They are in the Library Stack itself not a substack. So you essentially injected the Library stack into the Main stack? On Tue, Dec 27, 2011 at 10:39 AM, Pete p...@mollysrevenge.com wrote: Are the behavior buttons in the actual library stack or in a substack of the library stack? I've run into a similar problem before and ending setting thew stackFiles property of the app's main stack to name the behavior stack. Pete Todd ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode -- Pete Molly's Revenge http://www.mollysrevenge.com ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Case Study: Behaviors Failing - Can't set break points
Thanks Pete, but that doesn't help. On a side note. I can't set a Behavior to any other then the Short Reference. I set it with a Long ID including the path. But it is immediately converted to the short button id 1020 of stack behaviors form Todd On Tue, Dec 27, 2011 at 11:23 AM, Pete p...@mollysrevenge.com wrote: OK, not exactly the same issue I had but stackfiles might still help. If your behaviors don't use a fully qualified stack file name (eg button id 1020 of stack Behaviors), a stackfiles entry naming Behaviors and its fully qualified stackfile path enables LC to resolve the behavior references. Not sure if that's your situation but maybe that will help. Pete On Tue, Dec 27, 2011 at 10:47 AM, Todd Geist t...@geistinteractive.com wrote: They are in the Library Stack itself not a substack. So you essentially injected the Library stack into the Main stack? On Tue, Dec 27, 2011 at 10:39 AM, Pete p...@mollysrevenge.com wrote: Are the behavior buttons in the actual library stack or in a substack of the library stack? I've run into a similar problem before and ending setting thew stackFiles property of the app's main stack to name the behavior stack. Pete Todd ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode -- Pete Molly's Revenge http://www.mollysrevenge.com ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode -- Todd Geist (805) 419-9382 ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Case Study: Behaviors Failing - Can't set break points
I am using the long ID when I set it. But LiveCode immediately converts it to the shorter version It is not my doing. If Set this button id 1004 of card id 1002 of stack /Users/todd/Desktop/A.livecode LiveCode immediately changes it to button id 1004 of card id 1002 of stack /Users/todd/Desktop/A.livecode This is a good I think. I am pretty sure you wouldn't want to include the full path to a stack in a behavior Todd On Tue, Dec 27, 2011 at 12:05 PM, Bob Sneidar b...@twft.com wrote: Good point. The proper syntax *should* be set the behavior of object to the long id of button the button object. If the behavior script button is located on the first card of the stack the object is in, then you can use shorter versions, but why risk it? In your case, since the behavior is in a library, use the long ID. Bob On Dec 27, 2011, at 11:23 AM, Pete wrote: OK, not exactly the same issue I had but stackfiles might still help. If your behaviors don't use a fully qualified stack file name (eg button id 1020 of stack Behaviors), a stackfiles entry naming Behaviors and its fully qualified stackfile path enables LC to resolve the behavior references. Not sure if that's your situation but maybe that will help. Pete On Tue, Dec 27, 2011 at 10:47 AM, Todd Geist t...@geistinteractive.com wrote: They are in the Library Stack itself not a substack. So you essentially injected the Library stack into the Main stack? On Tue, Dec 27, 2011 at 10:39 AM, Pete p...@mollysrevenge.com wrote: Are the behavior buttons in the actual library stack or in a substack of the library stack? I've run into a similar problem before and ending setting thew stackFiles property of the app's main stack to name the behavior stack. Pete Todd ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode -- Pete Molly's Revenge http://www.mollysrevenge.com ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode -- Todd Geist (805) 419-9382 ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Case Study: Behaviors Failing - Can't set break points
mmm that IS the long ID. The short id would just be a number. But you *can* use the short name, and it wouldn't surprise me if Livecode then transformed that into the long ID. I wasn't aware of that. Bob On Dec 27, 2011, at 12:19 PM, Todd Geist wrote: If Set this button id 1004 of card id 1002 of stack /Users/todd/Desktop/A.livecode LiveCode immediately changes it to button id 1004 of card id 1002 of stack /Users/todd/Desktop/A.livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Crashing Ubuntu 11.10 with LC 4.5
Bernard Devlin wrote: I was so appalled by the latest Ubuntu, I switched to Mint. Ubuntu had become as slow as using Windows Vista. Is that with 11.10 or 11.04? When I first tried 11.04 it was slow, and I wound up staying with 10.10 until 11.10 came out. But since I upgraded to 11.10 last month, on my Core2 Duo laptop it runs very well. In terms of design, it's almost as big a departure from earlier versions as OS X is from Mac OS 9. And as with my Mac experience, the transition was a bit jarring at first, and I initially complained about not being as productive. But with both OS X and Unity, the more time I spend with the new system the more I like it. It seems a matter of taste, though. I know more than a few Mac users who still prefer the design of OS 9, and it seems there are quite a few Ubuntu users who prefer 10 over 11. But unlike the Mac world, at least us Linux users can choose which environment we want to work in. :) No wonder Mint has taken off. Whilst the main charts in the link below are based on DistroWatch (arguably a sign of what cutting-edge linux users are up to), the chart further down the page showing Google search data indicates that the claim that Ubuntu is losing out to Mint has some basis. http://royal.pingdom.com/2011/11/23/ubuntu-linux-losing-popularity-fast-new-unity-interface-to-blame/ Respectfully, DistroWatch stats aren't a good measure of general interest, for the reasons I detailed in this post in the Ubuntu forum: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=11480329#post11480329 In that post I also include Alexa site rankings, which show many times more interest in Ubuntu than Mint, similar to the Google stats in the article you linked to which also shows Ubuntu ranking much higher than Mint. Mint's a great system, but in terms of overall popularity the factor that affects the Linux world the most is that the average person doesn't think of operating systems as something they can choose, but simply uses whatever came with their computer. In 2011 the number of OEMs shipping computers with Ubuntu preinstalled continued to grow. In addition to Dell, Asus, and others, there are Linux-exclusive vendors like System 76 which offer only Ubuntu. Even ZaReason, which offers Mint and others as options, has Ubuntu as their default choice. My friend Aviv who runs LinuCity here in SoCal offers a few systems with Mint preinstalled, but most of his line is Ubuntu. Being Ubuntu-based, Mint provides a great option for those who want most of what Ubuntu offers but with the more traditional UI. But the Gnome Project killed Gnome 2 for a reason, and sooner or later we can expect most distros to be using either Gnome 3/Shell or a variant like Unity. This transition from a Windows-like task bar to a Mac-like dock isn't perfect in either the Gnome Shell or Unity implementations, but I feel such evolution is inevitable for the continued growth of the platform. And best of all, it's Linux: we have plenty of choices to use any distro, desktop environment, and tweaks we want to get exactly what we most prefer. I used to lament the number of distros out there, but the more I spend time with the Linux community the more I've come to appreciate the strengths of such diversity. PS: If anyone here is going to SCaLE 10x next month let's meet up there - I'll be there all three days: http://www.socallinuxexpo.org/scale10x -- Richard Gaskin Fourth World LiveCode training and consulting: http://www.fourthworld.com Webzine for LiveCode developers: http://www.LiveCodeJournal.com LiveCode Journal blog: http://LiveCodejournal.com/blog.irv ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Case Study: Behaviors Failing - Can't set break points
Yeah sorry see my other message It starts as this button id 1004 of card id 1002 of stack /Users/todd/Desktop/A.livecode it changes to this button id 1004 of stack A Todd ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Case Study: Behaviors Failing - Can't set break points
That is still the long ID. Bob On Dec 27, 2011, at 12:28 PM, Todd Geist wrote: whoops That didn't paste right It starts as this button id 1004 of card id 1002 of stack /Users/todd/Desktop/A.livecode it changes to this button id 1004 of stack A Todd ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Crashing Ubuntu 11.10 with LC 4.5
On 12/27/2011 10:35 PM, Richard Gaskin wrote: Bernard Devlin wrote: I was so appalled by the latest Ubuntu, I switched to Mint. Ubuntu had become as slow as using Windows Vista. Is that with 11.10 or 11.04? When I first tried 11.04 it was slow, and I wound up staying with 10.10 until 11.10 came out. But since I upgraded to 11.10 last month, on my Core2 Duo laptop it runs very well. In terms of design, it's almost as big a departure from earlier versions as OS X is from Mac OS 9. And as with my Mac experience, the transition was a bit jarring at first, and I initially complained about not being as productive. But with both OS X and Unity, the more time I spend with the new system the more I like it. It seems a matter of taste, though. I know more than a few Mac users who still prefer the design of OS 9, and it seems there are quite a few Ubuntu users who prefer 10 over 11. But unlike the Mac world, at least us Linux users can choose which environment we want to work in. :) No wonder Mint has taken off. Whilst the main charts in the link below are based on DistroWatch (arguably a sign of what cutting-edge linux users are up to), the chart further down the page showing Google search data indicates that the claim that Ubuntu is losing out to Mint has some basis. http://royal.pingdom.com/2011/11/23/ubuntu-linux-losing-popularity-fast-new-unity-interface-to-blame/ Respectfully, DistroWatch stats aren't a good measure of general interest, for the reasons I detailed in this post in the Ubuntu forum: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=11480329#post11480329 In that post I also include Alexa site rankings, which show many times more interest in Ubuntu than Mint, similar to the Google stats in the article you linked to which also shows Ubuntu ranking much higher than Mint. Mint's a great system, but in terms of overall popularity the factor that affects the Linux world the most is that the average person doesn't think of operating systems as something they can choose, but simply uses whatever came with their computer. In 2011 the number of OEMs shipping computers with Ubuntu preinstalled continued to grow. In addition to Dell, Asus, and others, there are Linux-exclusive vendors like System 76 which offer only Ubuntu. Even ZaReason, which offers Mint and others as options, has Ubuntu as their default choice. My friend Aviv who runs LinuCity here in SoCal offers a few systems with Mint preinstalled, but most of his line is Ubuntu. Being Ubuntu-based, Mint provides a great option for those who want most of what Ubuntu offers but with the more traditional UI. But the Gnome Project killed Gnome 2 for a reason, And what, pray tell, was that; that it was popular? and Linux people like putting their feet in their mouth - I wonder. and sooner or later we can expect most distros to be using either Gnome 3/Shell or a variant like Unity. This transition from a Windows-like task bar to a Mac-like dock isn't perfect in either the Gnome Shell or Unity implementations, but I feel such evolution is inevitable for the continued growth of the platform. And best of all, it's Linux: we have plenty of choices to use any distro, desktop environment, and tweaks we want to get exactly what we most prefer. I used to lament the number of distros out there, but the more I spend time with the Linux community the more I've come to appreciate the strengths of such diversity. PS: If anyone here is going to SCaLE 10x next month let's meet up there - I'll be there all three days: http://www.socallinuxexpo.org/scale10x -- Richard Gaskin Fourth World LiveCode training and consulting: http://www.fourthworld.com Webzine for LiveCode developers: http://www.LiveCodeJournal.com LiveCode Journal blog: http://LiveCodejournal.com/blog.irv ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Case Study: Behaviors Failing - Can't set break points
Bob Sneidar wrote: On Dec 27, 2011, at 12:28 PM, Todd Geist wrote: It starts as this button id 1004 of card id 1002 of stack /Users/todd/Desktop/A.livecode it changes to this button id 1004 of stack A That is still the long ID. Sort of. A true long ID includes the file path, but behaviors use a special form of that descriptor format with the short name of the stack, for portability as Todd surmised. This sort of truncated long ID is useful in other areas as well, and FWIW I submitted a request to have a truncated keyword added to return that value for object references: http://quality.runrev.com/show_bug.cgi?id=7608 It's not too hard to write a function to do this, but since apparently the engine already does this for behaviors it would be handy to have it accessible to us in scripts. -- Richard Gaskin Fourth World LiveCode training and consulting: http://www.fourthworld.com Webzine for LiveCode developers: http://www.LiveCodeJournal.com LiveCode Journal blog: http://LiveCodejournal.com/blog.irv ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Case Study: Behaviors Failing - Can't set break points
Todd Geist todd@... writes: On a side note. I can't set a Behavior to any other then the Short Reference. I set it with a Long ID including the path. But it is immediately converted to the short button id 1020 of stack behaviors form That's known as the rugged id - it's got everything in the long id except for the file path to the stack. It's what behaviors are defined by. And it should be unique because LC will barf if you have two stacks by the same name in memory. -- Mark Wieder ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Case Study: Behaviors Failing - Can't set break points
That's interesting, I haven't come across that before, but I think you are on 5.0 so maybe they changed (or broke) something in that release. In those circumstances, it seems worth at least setting the stackfiles to A,/Users/todd/Desktop/A.livecode and see if that fixes the problem. On Tue, Dec 27, 2011 at 12:38 PM, Todd Geist t...@geistinteractive.comwrote: Yeah sorry see my other message It starts as this button id 1004 of card id 1002 of stack /Users/todd/Desktop/A.livecode it changes to this button id 1004 of stack A Todd ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode -- Pete Molly's Revenge http://www.mollysrevenge.com ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Case Study: Behaviors Failing - Can't set break points
Todd Geist todd@... writes: And I can't set break points in the Behavior scripts. Just for the record, breakpoints work fine in behavior scripts. -- Mark Wieder ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
matchChunk question
Hi, shouldn't the following place the start position and end position of the regular expression found in the input field into the output field? on mouseUp local startpos, endpos put fldinput into tinput put \ quote v \ quote : into tregularexpression put matchchunk(tinput, tregularexpression, startpos, endpos) into fldoutput put , startpos , endpos after fldoutput end mouseUp What I am getting in output is: true, , With no start and end positions. Anyone see the error of my ways? Thanks -- Mark PS lc 5.0.2, on a Mac -- View this message in context: http://runtime-revolution.278305.n4.nabble.com/matchChunk-question-tp4238281p4238281.html Sent from the Revolution - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: [OT] Re: Crashing Ubuntu 11.10 with LC 4.5
On Tue, Dec 27, 2011 at 7:26 AM, Richmond wrote: Well, I'm just about to hop on the plane for my annual visit to Britain (which will include dephlogisticating my parents' laptop, which was running Ubuntu 10.10, which has gone very sour since my Father couldn't resist clicking on distro-upgrade and getting b*ggered by Unity. I am, right now, wondering whether I should reinstall Ubuntu 10.10 and lock-down the upgrade option, or go for Mint 12 with MATE I'm playing around with a 10.10 variant that you may enjoy. It is pre-themed to be all Mac-like. The Live CD is in Spanish, but as always, you can choose any language when you install. If nothing else, it looks cool. Another variant of this is elementaryOS (designed for simplicity). http://darwinosx.blogspot.com/p/descarga-darwin-os.html http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XsUJJlroz_k ˜Roger ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: matchChunk question
Hi Mark, You need to put the part of the regex that you want to know the start and end position of inside parantheses. In your case, this seems to be the entire regex. -- Best regards, Mark Schonewille Economy-x-Talk Consulting and Software Engineering Homepage: http://economy-x-talk.com Twitter: http://twitter.com/xtalkprogrammer KvK: 50277553 Become our partner in sales http://qery.us/1bq Start selling Color Converter today. 20% commission! On 27 dec 2011, at 22:26, Mark Smith wrote: Hi, shouldn't the following place the start position and end position of the regular expression found in the input field into the output field? on mouseUp local startpos, endpos put fldinput into tinput put \ quote v \ quote : into tregularexpression put matchchunk(tinput, tregularexpression, startpos, endpos) into fldoutput put , startpos , endpos after fldoutput end mouseUp What I am getting in output is: true, , With no start and end positions. Anyone see the error of my ways? Thanks -- Mark PS lc 5.0.2, on a Mac ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Case Study: Behaviors Failing - Can't set break points
Hi Mark, On Tue, Dec 27, 2011 at 1:12 PM, Mark Wieder mwie...@ahsoftware.net wrote: Just for the record, breakpoints work fine in behavior scripts. Yes, normally they work just fine. However I can reliably cause them stop working, by loading the object that use Behaviors before the Behaviors themselves. When this happens the link is sort of there as I described in my Original Post. You can't send reliably send messages, but you can see the behavior messages in some parts of the IDE. Another side effect of this half linked state is that you can't set break points in the Behavior Scripts. At least this is what I see in 5.0.2 Thanks Todd ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Case Study: Behaviors Failing - Can't set break points
Todd Geist wrote: However I can reliably cause them stop working, by loading the object that use Behaviors before the Behaviors themselves. Unless something changed/broke, any behavior assignment which refers to a behavior button not already in memory at the time the object which refers to its is first opened will not have the behavior resolved, and that behavior script will not be present in the message path. Accordingly, setting any breakpoints in the behavior script will not trigger, as the script isn't in play. If you find the script is in play under such circumstances, I'd like to learn how you did it. I've been wanting a way to resolve behaviors at arbitrary execution points rather than relying on stack opening, and have made this request for a new resolve behaviors command to do that: http://quality.runrev.com/show_bug.cgi?id=8993 If you have a means of doing this with the engine as it is I definitely want to learn the secret. -- Richard Gaskin Fourth World LiveCode training and consulting: http://www.fourthworld.com Webzine for LiveCode developers: http://www.LiveCodeJournal.com LiveCode Journal blog: http://LiveCodejournal.com/blog.irv ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Case Study: Behaviors Failing - Can't set break points
On Tue, Dec 27, 2011 at 1:59 PM, Richard Gaskin ambassa...@fourthworld.comwrote: If you find the script is in play under such circumstances, I'd like to learn how you did it. I've been wanting a way to resolve behaviors at arbitrary execution points rather than relying on stack opening, and have made this request for a new resolve behaviors command to do that: http://quality.runrev.com/**show_bug.cgi?id=8993http://quality.runrev.com/show_bug.cgi?id=8993 Well I am not sure if I have what you are looking for. But I can tell you that I have behaviors in a sort of half linked state. They do not work BUT in the IDE if you control click on a such button with a broken behavior and select Send Message you will see the Handlers in the Behavior script. If you try to to send the message, it fails. My Behaviors are on the second card of a Library Stack. That was loaded into memory using start using. It was not opened before the start using. These Behaviors are loaded AFTER the stack that uses them. And it is this stack that has the broken behaviors. This makes sense since I am loading the behaviors too late. But the behaviors are in memory they are just not correctly linked to their child buttons any more. in my case I can fix these quite easily because all the broken buttons are on one card. I am using them for code only. I simply loop through the controls on the card and set the behavior of each control to itself. *On* ResetBeahviors *repeat* with i = 1 to the number of controls of me *put* the long id of control i of me into tControl *put* word 1 of the name of tControl into tType *if* tType = button *then* *set* the behavior of tControl to the behavior of tControl *end* *if* *end* *repeat* *end* ResetBeahviors Hope that helps Todd ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: matchChunk question
Thanks, worked perfectly. changing the expression to (\ quote v \ quote :) resulted in true, 422, 425 in the output. What I am attempting to do is define a rather complicated item delimiter, in this case made up of the 4 char sequence v: If I can define where this occurs I can break the input up into chunks. Best, -- Mark -- View this message in context: http://runtime-revolution.278305.n4.nabble.com/matchChunk-question-tp4238281p4238428.html Sent from the Revolution - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Case Study: Behaviors Failing - Can't set break points
Hi Todd, It's my understanding that the start using command makes the handlers in the stack script of the main stack available to your application. Nothing else, including behavior button scripts, are made available by issuing a start using command. No doubt someone will correct me if I'm wrong! This is very similar to the situation that I have where I have my behavior buttons on a card in a substack of the stack I name in my start using command. I remember tearing my hair out trying to figure out how to activate the behaviors and I honestly don't remember all the things I tried. All I know is that using the Stack Files tab of the main stack's Inspector palette to make a reference to the short name of my behavior substack resolve to the full path of it's main stack fixed the problem for me. I guess LC opens the stacks named in the stack files list when it first starts up, although you still have to use the start using command to make the main stack script handlers available to your application. I agree with Richard that the ability to issue a command that will resolve behaviors at any time would be great, kinda like inserting/removing front scripts. I voted for his enhancement request. On Tue, Dec 27, 2011 at 2:19 PM, Todd Geist t...@geistinteractive.comwrote: On Tue, Dec 27, 2011 at 1:59 PM, Richard Gaskin ambassa...@fourthworld.comwrote: If you find the script is in play under such circumstances, I'd like to learn how you did it. I've been wanting a way to resolve behaviors at arbitrary execution points rather than relying on stack opening, and have made this request for a new resolve behaviors command to do that: http://quality.runrev.com/**show_bug.cgi?id=8993 http://quality.runrev.com/show_bug.cgi?id=8993 Well I am not sure if I have what you are looking for. But I can tell you that I have behaviors in a sort of half linked state. They do not work BUT in the IDE if you control click on a such button with a broken behavior and select Send Message you will see the Handlers in the Behavior script. If you try to to send the message, it fails. My Behaviors are on the second card of a Library Stack. That was loaded into memory using start using. It was not opened before the start using. These Behaviors are loaded AFTER the stack that uses them. And it is this stack that has the broken behaviors. This makes sense since I am loading the behaviors too late. But the behaviors are in memory they are just not correctly linked to their child buttons any more. in my case I can fix these quite easily because all the broken buttons are on one card. I am using them for code only. I simply loop through the controls on the card and set the behavior of each control to itself. *On* ResetBeahviors *repeat* with i = 1 to the number of controls of me *put* the long id of control i of me into tControl *put* word 1 of the name of tControl into tType *if* tType = button *then* *set* the behavior of tControl to the behavior of tControl *end* *if* *end* *repeat* *end* ResetBeahviors Hope that helps Todd ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode -- Pete Molly's Revenge http://www.mollysrevenge.com ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Trouble with button icon images
Hi Jacque, I tried this out. The standalone has a substack named revCopiedIcons. I added code to list the controls in that stack and it contained the standard icons for the answer command (information, error, warning, etc) plus the one icon I referenced in the Image library. So it appears the standalone builder is smart enough to include only the referenced icons. Pete On Mon, Dec 26, 2011 at 1:00 PM, J. Landman Gay jac...@hyperactivesw.comwrote: On 12/26/11 11:35 AM, Pete wrote: HI Jacque, Just one more follow up to this. When the standalone is built, does it include all the images in the library or just the ones that are referenced in the application? The library I created has around 700 icons in it and I only use perhaps a dozen or so in any one application. I'm not sure how that would work, I always place the images so that the library isn't used at all. I suppose the easiest thing would be for the standalone builder to just include the whole library as a substack of your mainstack. Copying them individually would change the IDs of the images. You could find out by building a small standalone with a button that uses a referenced icon, and whose script answers the names of the substacks. I'm a little curious myself what you'll find. -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | jac...@hyperactivesw.com HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com __**_ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/**mailman/listinfo/use-livecodehttp://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode -- Pete Molly's Revenge http://www.mollysrevenge.com ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Trouble with button icon images
On 12/27/11 5:03 PM, Pete wrote: Hi Jacque, I tried this out. The standalone has a substack named revCopiedIcons. I added code to list the controls in that stack and it contained the standard icons for the answer command (information, error, warning, etc) plus the one icon I referenced in the Image library. So it appears the standalone builder is smart enough to include only the referenced icons. Pete That's great to know, thanks for trying it and reporting back. The SB is smarter than I thought. -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | jac...@hyperactivesw.com HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Case Study: Behaviors Failing - Can't set break points
Ok, got it. NOW I know everything! I was just missing that little bit. ;-) Bob On Dec 27, 2011, at 12:57 PM, Richard Gaskin wrote: Bob Sneidar wrote: On Dec 27, 2011, at 12:28 PM, Todd Geist wrote: It starts as this button id 1004 of card id 1002 of stack /Users/todd/Desktop/A.livecode it changes to this button id 1004 of stack A That is still the long ID. Sort of. A true long ID includes the file path, but behaviors use a special form of that descriptor format with the short name of the stack, for portability as Todd surmised. This sort of truncated long ID is useful in other areas as well, and FWIW I submitted a request to have a truncated keyword added to return that value for object references: http://quality.runrev.com/show_bug.cgi?id=7608 It's not too hard to write a function to do this, but since apparently the engine already does this for behaviors it would be handy to have it accessible to us in scripts. -- Richard Gaskin Fourth World LiveCode training and consulting: http://www.fourthworld.com Webzine for LiveCode developers: http://www.LiveCodeJournal.com LiveCode Journal blog: http://LiveCodejournal.com/blog.irv ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Case Study: Behaviors Failing - Can't set break points
How about the adequately lengthy ID? Bob On Dec 27, 2011, at 2:49 PM, J. Landman Gay wrote: On 12/27/11 3:00 PM, Mark Wieder wrote: Todd Geisttodd@... writes: On a side note. I can't set a Behavior to any other then the Short Reference. I set it with a Long ID including the path. But it is immediately converted to the short button id 1020 of stack behaviors form That's known as the rugged id I think it should be called the short long ID. We also have room to add a long short ID if necessary. -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | jac...@hyperactivesw.com HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Strange Datagrid Behavior
I found the reason for this strange problem. The second datagrid mentioned in the original message was named Columns. In desperation, I changed its name to something other than Columns and of course changed references to it and now all works fine. It appears that Columns is some sort of reserved word in the datagrid world, not too surprising I suppose. Pete On Tue, Dec 27, 2011 at 9:46 AM, Bob Sneidar b...@twft.com wrote: Delete the first datagrid and when it throws an error that is where whatever code is referencing the first datagrid literally. It sounds at first blush like you set the behavior to something other than the datagrid library, and then did some custom work with that behavior, referring to the first datagrid literally somewhere in the behavior script. Alternately, you can try edit the script of the behavior of mySecondDataGrid and then search for the name of the first datagrid. Bob On Dec 26, 2011, at 5:28 PM, Pete wrote: I have two datagrids on a card. When the user clicks on an option menu on the card, the datagrids are populated with information in two different formats, at least that's what's supposed to happen. I do this by setting the dgText of each datagrid to the value of a variable. When I set the dgText of the first datagrid (stepping through in debug), I see the correct data show up. When I set the dgText of the second datagrid, it appears in the first datagrid and the second datagrid remains empty!! The datagrids have different names. I have checked the row template property to make sure it has not somehow been set to the wrong datagrid but they are both correct. I have checked the value of the dgContorl property of each datagrid and it is correct also. I will say that these datagrids have have a somewhat checkered past. They originally existed on a different card than they reside on now, and all worked fine back in those good old days. For application design reasons, I copied them (and a few other controls) from the original card to a different card and put them all into a group. That's when the problems started. Any ideas on how I might track down this strange behavior? -- Pete Molly's Revenge http://www.mollysrevenge.com ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode -- Pete Molly's Revenge http://www.mollysrevenge.com ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Strange Datagrid Behavior
Yet another great argument for naming conventions! All my datagrids start with dg. Bob On Dec 27, 2011, at 4:06 PM, Pete wrote: I found the reason for this strange problem. The second datagrid mentioned in the original message was named Columns. In desperation, I changed its name to something other than Columns and of course changed references to it and now all works fine. It appears that Columns is some sort of reserved word in the datagrid world, not too surprising I suppose. Pete ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Strange Datagrid Behavior
Just don;t call them dgColumn! On Tue, Dec 27, 2011 at 4:18 PM, Bob Sneidar b...@twft.com wrote: Yet another great argument for naming conventions! All my datagrids start with dg. Bob On Dec 27, 2011, at 4:06 PM, Pete wrote: I found the reason for this strange problem. The second datagrid mentioned in the original message was named Columns. In desperation, I changed its name to something other than Columns and of course changed references to it and now all works fine. It appears that Columns is some sort of reserved word in the datagrid world, not too surprising I suppose. Pete ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode -- Pete Molly's Revenge http://www.mollysrevenge.com ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Strange Datagrid Behavior
Actually, now I see that there are around a dozen or so groups within the datagrid structure whose name starts with dg. Definitely a good idea to have naming conventions but dg might not be the best choice for datagrids, although it is the obvious one. On Tue, Dec 27, 2011 at 4:34 PM, Pete p...@mollysrevenge.com wrote: Just don;t call them dgColumn! On Tue, Dec 27, 2011 at 4:18 PM, Bob Sneidar b...@twft.com wrote: Yet another great argument for naming conventions! All my datagrids start with dg. Bob On Dec 27, 2011, at 4:06 PM, Pete wrote: I found the reason for this strange problem. The second datagrid mentioned in the original message was named Columns. In desperation, I changed its name to something other than Columns and of course changed references to it and now all works fine. It appears that Columns is some sort of reserved word in the datagrid world, not too surprising I suppose. Pete ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode -- Pete Molly's Revenge http://www.mollysrevenge.com -- Pete Molly's Revenge http://www.mollysrevenge.com ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Strange Datagrid Behavior
Yeah I don't think they have a group called dgAltData :-) I try to pick obscure names for all my objects for this very reason. Still... it might explain why every time I try to populate this one datagrid I get a shock through the mouse. Hmmm... Bob On Dec 27, 2011, at 4:41 PM, Pete wrote: Actually, now I see that there are around a dozen or so groups within the datagrid structure whose name starts with dg. Definitely a good idea to have naming conventions but dg might not be the best choice for datagrids, although it is the obvious one. On Tue, Dec 27, 2011 at 4:34 PM, Pete p...@mollysrevenge.com wrote: Just don;t call them dgColumn! On Tue, Dec 27, 2011 at 4:18 PM, Bob Sneidar b...@twft.com wrote: Yet another great argument for naming conventions! All my datagrids start with dg. Bob ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Strange Datagrid Behavior
Bob- Tuesday, December 27, 2011, 4:18:10 PM, you wrote: Yet another great argument for naming conventions! Actually I think this a great argument for namespaces. -- -Mark Wieder mwie...@ahsoftware.net ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: OT Password protection of RR server?
Jim- Tuesday, December 27, 2011, 11:03:52 AM, you wrote: I would like to password protect a page. Is there anything about the RR server that affects how that should be done? As Matthias said, log on to on-rev's cPanel, then scroll down the page to the Security section and click on Password Protect Directories. You'll probably want to click on the public_html icon (not the text) to open it and then navigate your way down to the folder you want to protect. When you finally find the right one, click on its text (not its icon), then place a check in the checkbox to verify that you want to protect it and (optionally) set a name for the directory. Then enter a username and password (both are necessary to unlock the directory) and click Add/modify authorized user. You're done unless you want to add more user/password pairs. -- -Mark Wieder mwie...@ahsoftware.net ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Crashing Ubuntu 11.10 with LC 4.5
On Tue, Dec 27, 2011 at 2:35 PM, Richard Gaskin ambassa...@fourthworld.com wrote: In terms of design, it's almost as big a departure from earlier versions as OS X is from Mac OS 9. And as with my Mac experience, the transition was a bit jarring at first, and I initially complained about not being as productive. But with both OS X and Unity, the more time I spend with the new system the more I like it. Richard, How would you rate your experience/satisfaction level so far, as it applies to actual LC development using Unity? I have to admit that I've tried Unity 2-3 times now going back to the original RC from Ubuntu and so far I just don't much care for it... although I'm downloading the latest to take for a test spin as I type this. I've been a fan of Mint for several years now, but already seriously question how well the Mate scenario will work out. I'm still trying to convince myself that at the age of 55 years, I've not already gotten so old that I cannot easily adapt to newer technology, whatever that may be. Unfortunately, Unity has just about caused me to throw in the towel with Gnome. Best regards, David C. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
