iOS print external problem
Has anyone else found that the iOs HardCopy external has a problem dealing with two-sided printing? When two or more pages are printed from my iPad 2, it always prints two-sided to a two-sided capable printer even when the option is turned off in the pop-up dialog. Who is the author of the external or who could I contact for followup? ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: standalone not quitting on Win7
Did you try ? on closeStack wait 1 quit end closeStack Best, Le 11 janv. 2012 à 03:04, Nicolas Cueto a écrit : on closeStack quit end closeStack Any ideas? Thanks. -- Nicolas Cueto -- Pierre Sahores mobile : 06 03 95 77 70 www.sahores-conseil.com ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Regular expression to find the date
Thank you all. You are the wizards of Regular Expressions! Both of these solutions work great. However, to me, a perfect solution would be a combination of the two, A Regular Expression that accept 05/01/2011 05-01-2011 05.01.2011 ... and also 11/9/2011 5/10/2011 ... as a date. Thank you very much. All the best Paolo Mazza ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: standalone not quitting on Win7
Happy new year to you too, Nico-san! -- Best regards, Mark Schonewille Economy-x-Talk Consulting and Software Engineering Homepage: http://economy-x-talk.com Twitter: http://twitter.com/xtalkprogrammer KvK: 50277553 Become our partner in sales http://qery.us/1bq Start selling Color Converter today. 20% commission! On 11 jan 2012, at 04:05, Nicolas Cueto wrote: snip P.S. Akemashite omedeto gozaimasu. Kotoshi mo yoroshiku onegaishimasu! [The Japanese New Year's greeting, which must be stated the very first moment one happens to re-meet in January someone not only whom, because of their kindness or service in the previous year, one feels happily grateful towards, but also whom, in the months or even years to come, one realizes may again be obliged upon for help.] -- Nicolas Cueto ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: standalone not quitting on Win7
Hi, The wait command blocks all other handlers and hence has no effect. Maybe you mean wait 1 with messages, but I don't think it matters. You can ignore the wait command. Also, I wouldn't put the quit command in the closeStack handler but in the closeStackRequest handler because the closeStack handler can't prevent a stack from closing but the closeStackRequest handler can. I wrote my script specifically because a simple quit command wouldn't do. Windows standalones tend to remain in memory if an external or database driver is still running or if a window wasn't closed and there are versions of Revolution (and maybe LiveCode but I wouldn't know because I always use my script) that crash if the quit command is executed while a backdrop is active. Usually, I don't run my script inside a closeStack(Request) handler. I have a separate handler for it, which I call from the quit menu item on Windows and from the shutdownRequest handler on Mac OS X. -- Best regards, Mark Schonewille Economy-x-Talk Consulting and Software Engineering Homepage: http://economy-x-talk.com Twitter: http://twitter.com/xtalkprogrammer KvK: 50277553 Become our partner in sales http://qery.us/1bq Start selling Color Converter today. 20% commission! On 11 jan 2012, at 09:22, Pierre Sahores wrote: Did you try ? on closeStack wait 1 quit end closeStack Best, Le 11 janv. 2012 à 03:04, Nicolas Cueto a écrit : on closeStack quit end closeStack Any ideas? Thanks. -- Nicolas Cueto ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Regular expression to find the date
Hi Paolo, Both of these solutions work great. However, to me, a perfect solution would be a combination of the two, A Regular Expression that accept 05/01/2011 05-01-2011 05.01.2011 ... and also 11/9/2011 5/10/2011 ... as a date. If you need an optional '0' for one digit day and month, add a question mark after the 0 in the Regexp, like this : put ((0?[1-9]|[12][0-9]|3[01])[-/.](0?[1-9]|1[012])[-/.]((19|20)\d\d)) into myRegEx HTH, Thierry ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
[ANN] Installer Maker 1.7.2
Hello, I made a small update to the Installer Maker Plugin. The new version is 1.7.2 and fixes two annoying bugs. This update is free for all owners of a valid license for 1.7.1. Go to http://qery.us/za to get it. -- Best regards, Mark Schonewille Economy-x-Talk Consulting and Software Engineering Homepage: http://economy-x-talk.com Twitter: http://twitter.com/xtalkprogrammer KvK: 50277553 Become our partner in sales http://qery.us/1bq Start selling Color Converter today. 20% commission! ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: [ANN] mergZXing - iOS Barcode Reader External
Good job and good luck to you! Bob On Jan 10, 2012, at 8:13 PM, Monte Goulding wrote: Hi All Today I have released mergZXing my iOS Barcode Reader External for sale via my website http://goulding.ws/mergzxing for US$49. The external will also be available on the LiveCode marketplace ASAP. mergZXing currently supports reading barcodes in these formats: UPC-A and UPC-E EAN-8 and EAN-13 Code 39 Code 128 QR Code ITF Data Matrix As an added bonus I have also included mergAnswerColor which is a modal color picker external for iOS. -- Kind Regards, Monte Goulding M E R Goulding - Software Development Services ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
On-Rev down?
I am trying to connect to On-Rev SQL database, and failing. Anyone else having problems? Bob ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: On-Rev down?
My sites are working (odin) and I can log in to odins cpanel ok but there was some weirdness. Went to https://odin.on-rev.com:2083/login/ box pops up asking for username and password. Wouldn't let me log in. Failed miserably. Tried alternate passwords on the offchance I mis-remember. Nope. Hit cancel, box goes away, says I failed due to invalid username. Yet on the screen it shows the same username and a password box (web entry now, not popup auth box). Try my password. Poof, in. Anyone know what is up with this? The box that pops up appears to be a standard dialog that appears for network resource login credentials. Same box pops up for access to game academy materials. On Wed, Jan 11, 2012 at 9:40 AM, Bob Sneidar b...@twft.com wrote: I am trying to connect to On-Rev SQL database, and failing. Anyone else having problems? Bob ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
RE: On-Rev down?
I am having no problem connecting to my on-rev MySQL database. Ralph DiMola IT Director Evergreen Information Services Phone: 518-636-3998 Ex:11 Cell: 518-796-9332 -Original Message- From: use-livecode-boun...@lists.runrev.com [mailto:use-livecode-boun...@lists.runrev.com] On Behalf Of Bob Sneidar Sent: Wednesday, January 11, 2012 11:41 AM To: How to use LiveCode Subject: On-Rev down? I am trying to connect to On-Rev SQL database, and failing. Anyone else having problems? Bob ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Stack to read offline the LiveCode Forum
Hi Mark, Mark Stuart-2 wrote Alejandro wrote: Does exists a LiveCode stack to read offline all the LiveCode forum postings? Alejandro, if you go to this link, I mentioned that I had an application that reads the mail list. Currently, it doesn't have the offline feature, but if folk are interested in that, I would add it. http://lists.runrev.com/pipermail/use-livecode/2011-September/162079.html If you can't download the application, let me know and I'll email it directly to you. Many thanks for the link. Actually, I am looking for a stack that could display the forum. Ideally, a single stack should display both, the forum and the mail list. Have a nice day! Al -- View this message in context: http://runtime-revolution.278305.n4.nabble.com/Stack-to-read-offline-the-LiveCode-Forum-tp4270704p4286084.html Sent from the Revolution - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
RE: On-Rev down?
I am having no problem connecting to the control panel either. Ralph DiMola IT Director Evergreen Information Services Phone: 518-636-3998 Ex:11 Cell: 518-796-9332 -Original Message- From: use-livecode-boun...@lists.runrev.com [mailto:use-livecode-boun...@lists.runrev.com] On Behalf Of Bob Sneidar Sent: Wednesday, January 11, 2012 11:41 AM To: How to use LiveCode Subject: On-Rev down? I am trying to connect to On-Rev SQL database, and failing. Anyone else having problems? Bob ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: On-Rev down?
loki is OK for me. Le 11 janv. 2012 à 17:40, Bob Sneidar a écrit : I am trying to connect to On-Rev SQL database, and failing. Anyone else having problems? Bob ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode -- Pierre Sahores mobile : 06 03 95 77 70 www.sahores-conseil.com ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: On-Rev down?
NVM it is something on this end. Still troubleshooting... Bob On Jan 11, 2012, at 8:52 AM, Mike Bonner wrote: My sites are working (odin) and I can log in to odins cpanel ok but there was some weirdness. Went to https://odin.on-rev.com:2083/login/ box pops up asking for username and password. Wouldn't let me log in. Failed miserably. Tried alternate passwords on the offchance I mis-remember. Nope. Hit cancel, box goes away, says I failed due to invalid username. Yet on the screen it shows the same username and a password box (web entry now, not popup auth box). Try my password. Poof, in. Anyone know what is up with this? The box that pops up appears to be a standard dialog that appears for network resource login credentials. Same box pops up for access to game academy materials. On Wed, Jan 11, 2012 at 9:40 AM, Bob Sneidar b...@twft.com wrote: I am trying to connect to On-Rev SQL database, and failing. Anyone else having problems? Bob ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: OT Password protection of RR server?
Mark, I finally got my password for cPanel from Heather and I plunged into password protecting a web page. Or so I thought. I assumed that a web address was a directory and I thought I was protecting a web page but turned out locking up much more. There is still one folder jamesphurley.com/District3 that I am locked out of. Is there a way in cPanel to unprotect a page? (It would be helpful to include this kind of info in the help link. Not any time soon, I afraid. I suspect that RR is bitten off more than they are able to chew at the moment. Witness the downtime on Rev OnLine User Samples.) Also, the page I use for my neighborhood association is lvrmna.on-rev.comAt one point everyone in the neighborhood was locked out of that site due to a password protection I didn't realize I was making. Very embarrassing. A little knowledge is a dangerous thing. I recall in the beginning that my deal with RR was a web presence with the url jamesphurley.on-rev.com (I own a domain name jamesphurley.com) which they were able to shorten for me to jamesphurley.com. Is this just an alias for jamesphurley.on-rev.com? Is it possible through cPanel to shorten lvrmna.on-rev.com to simply lvrmna.com? I hate this stuff. I have no idea what's going on under the hood. Thanks, Jim Hurley Mark, Thank you going into the details. They will be helpful when Heather returns information about my user name and password.. It has been months since I have used cPanel. Wish me luck. Jim Hurley Message: 24 Date: Tue, 27 Dec 2011 17:04:59 -0800 From: Mark Wieder mwie...@ahsoftware.net To: How to use LiveCode use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Subject: As Matthias said, log on to on-rev's cPanel, then scroll down the page to the Security section and click on Password Protect Directories. You'll probably want to click on the public_html icon (not the text) to open it and then navigate your way down to the folder you want to protect. When you finally find the right one, click on its text (not its icon), then place a check in the checkbox to verify that you want to protect it and (optionally) set a name for the directory. Then enter a username and password (both are necessary to unlock the directory) and click Add/modify authorized user. You're done unless you want to add more user/password pairs. -- -Mark Wieder mwie...@ahsoftware.net Message-ID: 65943378687.20111227170...@ahsoftware.net Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Jim- Tuesday, December 27, 2011, 11:03:52 AM, you wrote: I would like to password protect a page. Is there anything about the RR server that affects how that should be done? As Matthias said, log on to on-rev's cPanel, then scroll down the page to the Security section and click on Password Protect Directories. You'll probably want to click on the public_html icon (not the text) to open it and then navigate your way down to the folder you want to protect. When you finally find the right one, click on its text (not its icon), then place a check in the checkbox to verify that you want to protect it and (optionally) set a name for the directory. Then enter a username and password (both are necessary to unlock the directory) and click Add/modify authorized user. You're done unless you want to add more user/password pairs. -- -Mark Wieder mwie...@ahsoftware.net ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: OT Password protection of RR server?
Hi Jim, The easy way to unprotect a page is to log in with FTP and remove the httpaccess file from the directory. -- Best regards, Mark Schonewille Economy-x-Talk Consulting and Software Engineering Homepage: http://economy-x-talk.com Twitter: http://twitter.com/xtalkprogrammer KvK: 50277553 Become our partner in sales http://qery.us/1bq Start selling Color Converter today. 20% commission! On 11 jan 2012, at 19:36, Jim Hurley wrote: Mark, I finally got my password for cPanel from Heather and I plunged into password protecting a web page. Or so I thought. I assumed that a web address was a directory and I thought I was protecting a web page but turned out locking up much more. There is still one folder jamesphurley.com/District3 that I am locked out of. Is there a way in cPanel to unprotect a page? (It would be helpful to include this kind of info in the help link. Not any time soon, I afraid. I suspect that RR is bitten off more than they are able to chew at the moment. Witness the downtime on Rev OnLine User Samples.) Also, the page I use for my neighborhood association is lvrmna.on-rev.com At one point everyone in the neighborhood was locked out of that site due to a password protection I didn't realize I was making. Very embarrassing. A little knowledge is a dangerous thing. I recall in the beginning that my deal with RR was a web presence with the url jamesphurley.on-rev.com (I own a domain name jamesphurley.com) which they were able to shorten for me to jamesphurley.com. Is this just an alias for jamesphurley.on-rev.com? Is it possible through cPanel to shorten lvrmna.on-rev.com to simply lvrmna.com? I hate this stuff. I have no idea what's going on under the hood. Thanks, Jim Hurley ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Oops
Oops. That last message of mine was intended for Mark, not the entire list. Jim Hurley ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Oops
oops, sorry for replying then :) On Wed, Jan 11, 2012 at 11:46 AM, Jim Hurley jhurley0...@sbcglobal.netwrote: Oops. That last message of mine was intended for Mark, not the entire list. Jim Hurley ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: OT Password protection of RR server?
Mark, Thanks Mark. I did as you suggested without results. I am trying to unprotect the url: jamesphurley.com/District3 but I still get this message: To view this page, you must log in to area “District3” on jamesphurley.com:80. I have no idea what the :80 suffix means. District3 is a folder in my directory. Jim Hi Jim, The easy way to unprotect a page is to log in with FTP and remove the httpaccess file from the directory. -- Best regards, Mark Schonewille ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: OT Password protection of RR server?
:80 just indicates that its the default http port. On Wed, Jan 11, 2012 at 12:11 PM, Jim Hurley jhurley0...@sbcglobal.netwrote: Mark, Thanks Mark. I did as you suggested without results. I am trying to unprotect the url: jamesphurley.com/District3 but I still get this message: To view this page, you must log in to area “District3” on jamesphurley.com:80. I have no idea what the :80 suffix means. District3 is a folder in my directory. Jim Hi Jim, The easy way to unprotect a page is to log in with FTP and remove the httpaccess file from the directory. -- Best regards, Mark Schonewille ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: OT Password protection of RR server?
P.S. Below the message (To view this page etc.) are the fields in which to enter a username and password. Jim Mark, Thanks Mark. I did as you suggested without results. I am trying to unprotect the url: jamesphurley.com/District3 but I still get this message: To view this page, you must log in to area “District3” on jamesphurley.com:80. I have no idea what the :80 suffix means. District3 is a folder in my directory. Jim Hi Jim, The easy way to unprotect a page is to log in with FTP and remove the httpaccess file from the directory. -- Best regards, Mark Schonewille ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Group Question
I want to add an object to a group (which is in another group). I am trying to do this from the message box. What is the syntax of this? Isn't it something like: In the example below, group 1 is in group 2. set the group of image Imagexxx to group group1 of group2 group 2 I thought I did this before, but I keep getting a error - token is not a property. Appreciate any help! Warren ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Group Question
Hi Warren, Am 11.01.2012 um 20:15 schrieb Warren Kuhl: I want to add an object to a group (which is in another group). I am trying to do this from the message box. What is the syntax of this? Isn't it something like: In the example below, group 1 is in group 2. set the group of image Imagexxx to group group1 of group2 group 2 I thought I did this before, but I keep getting a error - token is not a property. group is not a property but a container! You can: ... copy img nice one of grp gruppo uno to grp gruppo due ... create img in grp the one without any image yet ... etc. Appreciate any help! Warren Best Klaus -- Klaus Major http://www.major-k.de kl...@major.on-rev.com ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Group Question
Don't you mean: set the group of image Imagexxx to group group1 of group group 2 Also the names of the groups are not consistent. Typo? I do not think you have to use of group Group 2. Bob On Jan 11, 2012, at 11:15 AM, Warren Kuhl wrote: I want to add an object to a group (which is in another group). I am trying to do this from the message box. What is the syntax of this? Isn't it something like: In the example below, group 1 is in group 2. set the group of image Imagexxx to group group1 of group2 group 2 I thought I did this before, but I keep getting a error - token is not a property. Appreciate any help! Warren ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: [ANN] mergZXing - iOS Barcode Reader External
Just purchased it! will use 2D barcodes to label everything here.. now, if this cat stand still for couple minutes, I can tag him too Monte, thanks for the external! On Wed, Jan 11, 2012 at 2:30 PM, Bob Sneidar b...@twft.com wrote: Good job and good luck to you! Bob On Jan 10, 2012, at 8:13 PM, Monte Goulding wrote: Hi All Today I have released mergZXing my iOS Barcode Reader External for sale via my website http://goulding.ws/mergzxing for US$49. The external will also be available on the LiveCode marketplace ASAP. mergZXing currently supports reading barcodes in these formats: UPC-A and UPC-E EAN-8 and EAN-13 Code 39 Code 128 QR Code ITF Data Matrix As an added bonus I have also included mergAnswerColor which is a modal color picker external for iOS. -- Kind Regards, Monte Goulding M E R Goulding - Software Development Services ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode -- http://www.andregarzia.com -- All We Do Is Code. http://fon.nu -- minimalist url shortening service. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Group Question
I got the propertynames and pasted them into a text editor. I then searched for group and none of the things I found sound like they are properties you can set to add an object to a group. Bob On Jan 11, 2012, at 11:15 AM, Warren Kuhl wrote: I want to add an object to a group (which is in another group). I am trying to do this from the message box. What is the syntax of this? Isn't it something like: In the example below, group 1 is in group 2. set the group of image Imagexxx to group group1 of group2 group 2 I thought I did this before, but I keep getting a error - token is not a property. Appreciate any help! Warren ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: [ANN] mergZXing - iOS Barcode Reader External
Taze him. That's what I do with my cat. Not to get him to stand still, just for entertainment. ;-) KIDDING! I'M KIDDING! Bob On Jan 11, 2012, at 11:40 AM, Andre Garzia wrote: Just purchased it! will use 2D barcodes to label everything here.. now, if this cat stand still for couple minutes, I can tag him too Monte, thanks for the external! On Wed, Jan 11, 2012 at 2:30 PM, Bob Sneidar b...@twft.com wrote: Good job and good luck to you! Bob On Jan 10, 2012, at 8:13 PM, Monte Goulding wrote: Hi All Today I have released mergZXing my iOS Barcode Reader External for sale via my website http://goulding.ws/mergzxing for US$49. The external will also be available on the LiveCode marketplace ASAP. mergZXing currently supports reading barcodes in these formats: UPC-A and UPC-E EAN-8 and EAN-13 Code 39 Code 128 QR Code ITF Data Matrix As an added bonus I have also included mergAnswerColor which is a modal color picker external for iOS. -- Kind Regards, Monte Goulding M E R Goulding - Software Development Services ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode -- http://www.andregarzia.com -- All We Do Is Code. http://fon.nu -- minimalist url shortening service. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: color picker in IOS
Hi Monte, Congratulations on the release of mergzxing. I wish you success with it. :-) The image for the color-picker external seems to show that it takes up the entire iphone screen. Is there any way to specify a resize on it to take a lesser portion of the screen? I am currently rolling my own but wondered if you had thought of cutting the color picker loose from mergzxing and offering it separately. On Tue, Jan 10, 2012 at 9:30 PM, Monte Goulding mo...@sweattechnologies.com wrote: Hi Howard I've written an external for iOS. It's a bonus when you buy mergZXing my iOS barcode reader external. See http://goulding.ws/merzxing Cheers Monte On 11/01/2012, at 7:43 AM, Howard Bornstein wrote: How are people handling the need to present a color picker under IOS? AFAICT this option is not available through the IOS SDK. -- Regards, Howard Bornstein --- www.designeq.com ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode -- Regards, Howard Bornstein --- www.designeq.com ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Find nearest color in an RGB list
Yeay! One always worries about code written IN the email... :) ~ Nonsanity On Tue, Jan 10, 2012 at 3:31 PM, Michael Doub m...@doub.com wrote: This works like a charm! Thanks, Mike On 2012-01-10, at 3:03 PM, Nonsanity wrote: Both look like good suggestions for getting the closest color a human would think is a match, but both involve converting Livecode's native RGB to another format. I may be wrong, but I don't think those conversions are available built-in. I'm sure functions have been written to do this many times, but it's not trivial to do from scratch. If you can get one, then the following code will still work - It'll just work better. (Replace the r, g, b variable names with the appropriate letters for clarity.) Depending on your use case, you may not need to be that human-accurate, in which case you can do the same calculation in RGB space. The square root calculation in your two solutions is a way to get the distance between any two points in three dimensional space. All three color formats have three values, so they can all be pictured as a cube of space with colors as points within that space. Your starting color is in there too, and you just have to check the distance from it to all the other color points, and return the shortest. I'm typing this in a mail program, so it is untested... function Distance3D( x1, y1, z1, x2, y2, z2 ) return sqrt( (x1-x2)*(x1-x2) + (y1-y2)*(y1-y2) + (z1-z2)*(z1-z2) ) end Distance3D function GetClosestColor( r, g, b ) put 9 into ClosestDist put r , g , b into ClosestColor repeat for each line c of gColorList get Distance3D( r, g, b, item 1 of c, item 2 of c, item 3 of c ) if it ClosestDist then put it into ClosestDist put c into ClosestColor end if end repeat return ClosestColor end GetClosestColor You'd have your colors in gColorList like this: 32,32,128 255,255,255 0,0,0 128,128,256 (etc) ~ Chris Innanen ~ Nonsanity On Tue, Jan 10, 2012 at 1:13 PM, Michael Doub m...@doub.com wrote: I have a list of RGB colors that represent different color samples. I need to create a function that will return the closest perceived RGB entry in the list when supplied a single RGB value. Is anyone aware of a library or some sample code that would help with this task? From searching I found the follow two suggestions for solving this problem. Neither are not intuitively obvious to the casual observer...namely me. ;-) 1) Convert RGB to CIE Lab color space, then compute the distance in that space ( deltaE = sqrt(deltaL^2 + deltaA^2 + deltaB^2). Colors with the lowest deltaE are the most perceptually similar to each other. 2) Convert to RGB to HSL and consider an HSL color value a vector and define a weighted modulus function for the vector like this: modulus = sqrt(a*H1*H1 + b*S1*S1 + c*L1*L1); where a,b,c are weights you should decide based on your visual definition of what creates a bigger difference in perceived color - a 1% change in Hue or a 1% change in Saturation. I would suggest you use a = b = 0.5 and c = 1 Finally, find out the range your modulus would take and define similar colors to be those which have their moduli very close to each other (say 5%) Regards, Mike ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
[OT] Going bananas with The Desktop Experience
After the debacle of Ubuntu and its Unity desktop, the equally hot huffing and puffing about GNOME 3, and so on, I see that quite a few Linux people are jumping on the desktop environment bandwagon: http://unity.ubuntu.com/ http://www.gnome.org/gnome-3/ http://asturix.com/2012/01/asturix-4-released/ http://mashable.com/2010/05/02/google-bumptop/ http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Welcome_to_the_Sugar_Labs_wiki I suppose, that sooner or later, our friends over at Redmond and the Apple Campus will decide to jump aboard too... How, if at all, will this impact on how we deliver Livecode standalones to the punters? Richmond Mathewson. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
[ANN] animationEngine 5 Manuel en français
Bonjour à tous les utilisateurs français d'animationEngine! Heureusement René Micout traduit le manuel en français. Le lien est ici: http://derbrill.de/animationEngine/anim ... Manuel.pdf Merci encore René! S'il vous plaît excuser mon mauvais français. Je n'ai Google translate prises pour aider. J'espère que ce message a un sens. :-) Cordialement, Malte ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: [ANN] animationEngine 5 Manuel en français
Updated link: http://derbrill.de/animationEngine/animationEngine_5_Manuel.pdf Malte Bonjour à tous les utilisateurs français d'animationEngine! Heureusement René Micout traduit le manuel en français. Le lien est ici: http://derbrill.de/animationEngine/anim ... Manuel.pdf Merci encore René! S'il vous plaît excuser mon mauvais français. Je n'ai Google translate prises pour aider. J'espère que ce message a un sens. :-) Cordialement, Malte ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: color picker in IOS
On 12/01/2012, at 7:28 AM, Howard Bornstein wrote: Hi Monte, Congratulations on the release of mergzxing. I wish you success with it. :-) The image for the color-picker external seems to show that it takes up the entire iphone screen. Is there any way to specify a resize on it to take a lesser portion of the screen? I am currently rolling my own but wondered if you had thought of cutting the color picker loose from mergzxing and offering it separately. I think given it is a feature that it's not that hard to roll your own with then if you need any custom UI it's simpler to go that way. I've put it up as a separate purchase for US$9.95 at http://goulding.ws/merganswercolor Cheers Monte ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
[ANN] mergZXing 1.0.1 - iOS barcode reader external and mergAnswerColor
Hi Everyone Just a small documentation bug. People that have already purchased should have received a notification already. I have also included mergBanner an iAd external (which won't be sold separately) to show the banner at the bottom of the screen as a bonus when purchasing mergZXing. mergAnswerColor is now being sold separately for US$9.95 in addition to being a bonus when purchasing mergZXing. Early bird pricing is still US$49 until further notice. -- Cheers Monte Goulding M E R Goulding - Software Development Services ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: [ANN] animationEngine 5 Manuel en français
Hello Malte, I think French readers of this list understand also English ! But if the French message is not strictly correct, it is understandable ! ;-) René Le 11 janv. 2012 à 23:07, Malte Brill a écrit : Bonjour à tous les utilisateurs français d'animationEngine! Heureusement René Micout traduit le manuel en français. Le lien est ici: http://derbrill.de/animationEngine/anim ... Manuel.pdf Merci encore René! S'il vous plaît excuser mon mauvais français. Je n'ai Google translate prises pour aider. J'espère que ce message a un sens. :-) Cordialement, Malte ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Menu Builder
After a gap of many months since last using the Menu Builder, I'm back to trying it again with not very auspicious results. In the first screen, I click the New button and on the next screen, give the menu a name and leave the give the menubar a name and uncheck the box move objects down to accommodate menu bar (I want the menu to be in the OS X menu bar). As soon as I click OK, all the controls on the open stack move up, some of them to be underneath the window title bar. Uhhh, I asked for them not to be moved down, not to be moved up! Last time I used the menu builder, I had major problems - every time I opened the stack, it's height increased by the height of the menu - incrementally. Never did get to the bottom of that, ended up setting the stack height by script to work around it. Is there another way to create OS X menu bar menus without using the menu builder? -- Pete Molly's Revenge http://www.mollysrevenge.com ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Menu Builder
HI Mark, I guess it's a case of once bitten, twice shy. As mentioned, I had weird problems trying to use it last time around and now I can't get past the first screen without a problem so I just don't trust it. I didn't uncheck the box, it was already unchecked. I also tried checking it, which resulted in all my controls being moved down, which I don't want either. I'm building menus that will be displayed in the OS X menu bar, not within my stacks, so there is no need to move controls anywhere. If there's a way to create these menus manually by creating a group, I'm more than happy to do that to avoid the bugginess. IS ther a write up on that anywhere? Pete On Wed, Jan 11, 2012 at 4:57 PM, Mark Schonewille m.schonewi...@economy-x-talk.com wrote: Hi Pete, Why do you want a different way? The menu builder still is the easiest way to create a menu, even if it is unintuitive and buggy. Next time, just don't uncheck that checkbox :-) Surely, you can create a group, set the menubar of the stack to the name of that group and set the editmenus of your stack to true or false and adjust the locations of all other objects manually. -- Best regards, Mark Schonewille Economy-x-Talk Consulting and Software Engineering Homepage: http://economy-x-talk.com Twitter: http://twitter.com/xtalkprogrammer KvK: 50277553 Become our partner in sales http://qery.us/1bq Start selling Color Converter today. 20% commission! On 12 jan 2012, at 01:51, Pete wrote: After a gap of many months since last using the Menu Builder, I'm back to trying it again with not very auspicious results. In the first screen, I click the New button and on the next screen, give the menu a name and leave the give the menubar a name and uncheck the box move objects down to accommodate menu bar (I want the menu to be in the OS X menu bar). As soon as I click OK, all the controls on the open stack move up, some of them to be underneath the window title bar. Uhhh, I asked for them not to be moved down, not to be moved up! Last time I used the menu builder, I had major problems - every time I opened the stack, it's height increased by the height of the menu - incrementally. Never did get to the bottom of that, ended up setting the stack height by script to work around it. Is there another way to create OS X menu bar menus without using the menu builder? -- Pete Molly's Revenge http://www.mollysrevenge.com ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode -- Pete Molly's Revenge http://www.mollysrevenge.com ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
SQL Date Formatting
Hi all. I am having F-I-TZ working with dates in mySQL. I WANT to store the dates as real dates, but mySQL formats them as -mm-dd. Livecode does no such thing and nothing I know how to do can get Livecode to work with dates in this format AS dates. It's no good for my present purposes to work with other formats. I query SQL and then drop the data into a datagrid with no custom formatting, and that is just the way it has to be. What I need is to tell Livecode to sue SLQ date formatting. I have no real hope, but if someone knows of a way to do that, I would appreciate it. I think what is really needed is a feature request for one more date format for the convert command: convert myDate to sqlDate. sigh Bob ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Menu Builder
Hi Pete, If I keep that darn checkbox unchecked and do check the checkbox Set as stack Menu bar, then all is fine and the controls don't move up or down (actually they do move down by the same amount of pixels the card moves up). I don't know about a tutorial or something, but I rarely look at tutorials. There really isn't more to it than what I wrote in my previous e-mail, except that you need to make the group first and set its loc to 0,0 and then set the menubar of the stack and the editmenus. You also need to tweak the horizontal position and the text font and style to resemble the Windows menubar. -- Best regards, Mark Schonewille Economy-x-Talk Consulting and Software Engineering Homepage: http://economy-x-talk.com Twitter: http://twitter.com/xtalkprogrammer KvK: 50277553 Become our partner in sales http://qery.us/1bq Start selling Color Converter today. 20% commission! On 12 jan 2012, at 02:18, Pete wrote: HI Mark, I guess it's a case of once bitten, twice shy. As mentioned, I had weird problems trying to use it last time around and now I can't get past the first screen without a problem so I just don't trust it. I didn't uncheck the box, it was already unchecked. I also tried checking it, which resulted in all my controls being moved down, which I don't want either. I'm building menus that will be displayed in the OS X menu bar, not within my stacks, so there is no need to move controls anywhere. If there's a way to create these menus manually by creating a group, I'm more than happy to do that to avoid the bugginess. IS ther a write up on that anywhere? Pete ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: SQL Date Formatting
Can't try it but I believe you can do something like select field1, field2, DATE_FORMAT(yourdatefield,%m/%d/%Y from On Wed, Jan 11, 2012 at 6:20 PM, Bob Sneidar b...@twft.com wrote: Hi all. I am having F-I-TZ working with dates in mySQL. I WANT to store the dates as real dates, but mySQL formats them as -mm-dd. Livecode does no such thing and nothing I know how to do can get Livecode to work with dates in this format AS dates. It's no good for my present purposes to work with other formats. I query SQL and then drop the data into a datagrid with no custom formatting, and that is just the way it has to be. What I need is to tell Livecode to sue SLQ date formatting. I have no real hope, but if someone knows of a way to do that, I would appreciate it. I think what is really needed is a feature request for one more date format for the convert command: convert myDate to sqlDate. sigh Bob ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Menu Builder
Yes I just discovered that. If that checkbox had been on the same screen as the move controls checkbox, life would have been much simpler! So I'm now on the right track I think, but looks like I need to adjust some code which resizes windows in some circumstances. Pete On Wed, Jan 11, 2012 at 5:28 PM, Mark Schonewille m.schonewi...@economy-x-talk.com wrote: If I keep that darn checkbox unchecked and do check the checkbox Set as stack Menu bar, then all is fine and the controls don't move up or down (actually they do move down by the same amount of pixels the card moves up). -- Pete Molly's Revenge http://www.mollysrevenge.com ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: SQL Date Formatting
On 01/11/2012 07:20 PM, Bob Sneidar wrote: Hi all. I am having F-I-TZ working with dates in mySQL. I WANT to store the dates as real dates, but mySQL formats them as -mm-dd. Livecode does no such thing and nothing I know how to do can get Livecode to work with dates in this format AS dates. It's no good for my present purposes to work with other formats. I query SQL and then drop the data into a datagrid with no custom formatting, and that is just the way it has to be. What I need is to tell Livecode to sue SLQ date formatting. I have no real hope, but if someone knows of a way to do that, I would appreciate it. I think what is really needed is a feature request for one more date format for the convert command: convert myDate to sqlDate.sigh Bob Is the problem getting them from Livecode to mySQL or what mySQL returns from select? Can you set the date format in your select statement? http://dev.mysql.com/doc/refman/5.5/en/date-and-time-functions.html#function_date-format Warren ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
[ANN] Alpha Twitter Support
Folks, I know this has been delayed forever but the time is upon us to have Twitter-enabled apps. During the last conference, I demoed a very simple twitter library but did not share it because it relied on some command line tools that were only available on Mac OS X. It took me a while to find the time and solution to create a cross-platform library but I think I've made it. It was my wish to polish, test and document it before releasing anything but I know some people here need this stuff, so if you are not afraid of bugs and diving into badly designed code, hop to http://hg.andregarzia.com/livecode-socialsuite and download a fresh copy of the repository. There will be three new files in it: lib.aag.outh.livecode - a simple OAuth 1.0 library. Just enough to work. lib.aag.twitter.livecode - a VERY ALPHA library for twitter. There is enough code there to update the user status. SimpleTweet.livecode - a simple example that posts to the user status. I need to test this library. I also need to document it and make it easier to use but that may take some time and I don't want to delay it anymore. To use this library you will need to register at http://dev.twitter.com to get your consumer key and secret. You will need to know OAuth and Twitter API to use this library. I will make it easier shortly but right now it is a very low level library (but hey, it works!) I only tested on the desktop but it should work with mobile too. This library is different than the facebook library. The fb library has some revBrowser/iphoneControl code in it to present the authorization screens. The current OAuth and Twitter combination of libraries has no such thing. You need to build your own browser window and pass the id to the library. I may or may not implement automatic browser creation but I thought it was best to release now than to wait for me to implement everything. Twitter API can answer in JSON and XML formats. You can use Mark Smith libJSON or my libJSON (Marks library is better) or you can use XML and be happy. The OAuth library is FOSS under the terms of the BSD license, so you can do whatever you want with it. The Twitter library is dual licensed. It can be used under the terms of GPLv2 or you can donate to me to have a commercial license to close your source. More details at my page http://andregarzia.com/page/socialsuite So be happy with your tweets. The next library being implemented is Dropbox, check this teaser: http://fon.nu/lc-dropbox Cheers andre -- http://www.andregarzia.com -- All We Do Is Code. http://fon.nu -- minimalist url shortening service. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: SQL Date Formatting
Really, this is no big deal. You can either convert at the Livecode end, or if you don't need to sort by seconds, you could just make the date field as a plain text field. Also consider storing time as seconds in the database, which is sortable. The second handler I found useful too. function convertSQLTime pSQLtime -- converts from below format to seconds -- and DATEITEMS -- if date is bogus then this returns empty -- 2005-10-28 01:07:04 -- * the year -- * the month number -- * the day of the month -- * the hour in 24-hour time -- * the minute -- * the second get word 1 of pSQLTime set the itemDelimiter to - put item 1 of it comma\ item 2 of it comma\ item 3 of it comma\ after tOut get word 2 of pSQLTime set the itemDelimiter to : put (item 1 of it) comma\ (item 2 of it) comma\ (item 3 of it) comma\ (5)\ after tOut convert tOut to seconds set the itemDelimiter to comma return tOut end convertSQLTime function PHPDateTimeName pOtherTime,pNums -- get unique number string - put -1 into pNums -- pNums can be a number that can be the char position to start truncation -- if pNums is empty then the PHP/sql formatted date is returned if pOtherTime is empty then put the long time into pOtherTime set the numberFormat to 00 convert pOtherTime to dateitems -- 2005,10,9,17,50,43,1 if pNums is not empty then get \ (item 1 of pOtherTime)+0 (item 2 of pOtherTime)+0 (item 3 of pOtherTime)+0 \ (item 4 of pOtherTime)+0 (item 5 of pOtherTime)+0 (item 6 of pOtherTime)+0 else get \ (item 1 of pOtherTime)+0 - (item 2 of pOtherTime)+0 - (item 3 of pOtherTime)+0 \ (item 4 of pOtherTime)+0 : (item 5 of pOtherTime)+0 : (item 6 of pOtherTime)+0 end if if pNums is a number then delete character pNums to -1 of it return it end PHPDateTimeName On 11 January 2012 17:20, Bob Sneidar b...@twft.com wrote: Hi all. I am having F-I-TZ working with dates in mySQL. I WANT to store the dates as real dates, but mySQL formats them as -mm-dd. Livecode does no such thing and nothing I know how to do can get Livecode to work with dates in this format AS dates. Stephen Barncard San Francisco Ca. USA more about sqb http://www.google.com/profiles/sbarncar ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: SQL Date Formatting
h... I get it. have SQL change the way IT looks at dates. Well that would work. Instead though I decided to bite the bullet and write two functions to convert to and from standard mySQL date format. Thanks for the info though I will probably use that elsewhere. Bob On Jan 11, 2012, at 5:50 PM, Mike Bonner wrote: Can't try it but I believe you can do something like select field1, field2, DATE_FORMAT(yourdatefield,%m/%d/%Y from On Wed, Jan 11, 2012 at 6:20 PM, Bob Sneidar b...@twft.com wrote: Hi all. I am having F-I-TZ working with dates in mySQL. I WANT to store the dates as real dates, but mySQL formats them as -mm-dd. Livecode does no such thing and nothing I know how to do can get Livecode to work with dates in this format AS dates. It's no good for my present purposes to work with other formats. I query SQL and then drop the data into a datagrid with no custom formatting, and that is just the way it has to be. What I need is to tell Livecode to sue SLQ date formatting. I have no real hope, but if someone knows of a way to do that, I would appreciate it. I think what is really needed is a feature request for one more date format for the convert command: convert myDate to sqlDate. sigh Bob ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: SQL Date Formatting
I could massage the sql date format in my select statement, but I am trying to keep my select statements as simple as I can, so I have 2 functions that convert to and from the standard sql date format. Bob On Jan 11, 2012, at 5:55 PM, Warren Samples wrote: On 01/11/2012 07:20 PM, Bob Sneidar wrote: Hi all. I am having F-I-TZ working with dates in mySQL. I WANT to store the dates as real dates, but mySQL formats them as -mm-dd. Livecode does no such thing and nothing I know how to do can get Livecode to work with dates in this format AS dates. It's no good for my present purposes to work with other formats. I query SQL and then drop the data into a datagrid with no custom formatting, and that is just the way it has to be. What I need is to tell Livecode to sue SLQ date formatting. I have no real hope, but if someone knows of a way to do that, I would appreciate it. I think what is really needed is a feature request for one more date format for the convert command: convert myDate to sqlDate.sigh Bob Is the problem getting them from Livecode to mySQL or what mySQL returns from select? Can you set the date format in your select statement? http://dev.mysql.com/doc/refman/5.5/en/date-and-time-functions.html#function_date-format Warren ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: SQL Date Formatting
Hi Bob, I guess it depends on what you mean by real dates SQL date fields are pretty specific as to their format, that's why you give them a type of DATE or DATETIME. It's just a case of adjusting your SELECT statement to use the functions that SQL provides to return the date in whatever format you want. In SQLite, SELECT strftime(DateField,'%m/%d/%Y') returns the date in US format. In mySQL, SELECT DATE_FORMAT(DateField,'%m/%d/%Y) Or you can select the field as is and convert it in LC: set the itemdelimiter to / put item 2 of myDate / item 3 of myDate / item 1 of myDate Pete On Wed, Jan 11, 2012 at 5:20 PM, Bob Sneidar b...@twft.com wrote: Hi all. I am having F-I-TZ working with dates in mySQL. I WANT to store the dates as real dates, but mySQL formats them as -mm-dd. Livecode does no such thing and nothing I know how to do can get Livecode to work with dates in this format AS dates. It's no good for my present purposes to work with other formats. I query SQL and then drop the data into a datagrid with no custom formatting, and that is just the way it has to be. What I need is to tell Livecode to sue SLQ date formatting. I have no real hope, but if someone knows of a way to do that, I would appreciate it. I think what is really needed is a feature request for one more date format for the convert command: convert myDate to sqlDate. sigh Bob ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode -- Pete Molly's Revenge http://www.mollysrevenge.com ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Date intersection revisited
Hi all. A while ago someone asked how to phrase a query for date intersections. I have been struggling all day to come up with what is probably very simple logic for date intersections. For instance, I need to find all the reserved rooms whose dates fall within the selected dates of a new reservation. I came up with a way to do that. It's a bit more complicated than using the SQL between function because BETWEEN is inclusive, and if you think about it, it's fine if a new reservation falls on the departure day of an existing one. So given that startdate and enddate are SQL columns in a reservation database, and the literal dates are the new reservation start and end dates, I give you this where clause: (startdate = 2012-1-11 AND startdate 2012-1-14) OR (enddate 2012-1-11 AND enddate = 2012-1-14) This in effect allows new reservations to begin on the day another ends, or end on the day another begins. I don't know why this kind of logic comes so hard for me sometimes. I have to draw pictures to sort it out. At any rate, if I can prevent someone else from having to go through the mental hoops I did, then I feel I have contributed. Bob ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Menu Builder
Well, I guess back to square 1. What seemed to work (don't move controls, set as Stack menubar) now results in controls being moved up again. Pete On Wed, Jan 11, 2012 at 5:53 PM, Pete p...@mollysrevenge.com wrote: Yes I just discovered that. If that checkbox had been on the same screen as the move controls checkbox, life would have been much simpler! So I'm now on the right track I think, but looks like I need to adjust some code which resizes windows in some circumstances. Pete On Wed, Jan 11, 2012 at 5:28 PM, Mark Schonewille m.schonewi...@economy-x-talk.com wrote: If I keep that darn checkbox unchecked and do check the checkbox Set as stack Menu bar, then all is fine and the controls don't move up or down (actually they do move down by the same amount of pixels the card moves up). -- Pete Molly's Revenge http://www.mollysrevenge.com -- Pete Molly's Revenge http://www.mollysrevenge.com ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Menu Builder
What you can do is create a new stack, build your menu there, copy the text of the button it creates, then build on the fly when you open your stack. I think. I'm a little fuzzy about that. :-) Bob On Jan 11, 2012, at 4:51 PM, Pete wrote: After a gap of many months since last using the Menu Builder, I'm back to trying it again with not very auspicious results. In the first screen, I click the New button and on the next screen, give the menu a name and leave the give the menubar a name and uncheck the box move objects down to accommodate menu bar (I want the menu to be in the OS X menu bar). As soon as I click OK, all the controls on the open stack move up, some of them to be underneath the window title bar. Uhhh, I asked for them not to be moved down, not to be moved up! Last time I used the menu builder, I had major problems - every time I opened the stack, it's height increased by the height of the menu - incrementally. Never did get to the bottom of that, ended up setting the stack height by script to work around it. Is there another way to create OS X menu bar menus without using the menu builder? -- Pete Molly's Revenge http://www.mollysrevenge.com ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Date intersection revisited
You can do this with sql functions too Bob. The sqlite date function has a modifier parameter, eg date(2011-1-11,'+ 1 DAY). MYSQL has the DATE_ADD and DATE_SUB functions which do the same thing. Pete On Wed, Jan 11, 2012 at 6:55 PM, Bob Sneidar b...@twft.com wrote: Hi all. A while ago someone asked how to phrase a query for date intersections. I have been struggling all day to come up with what is probably very simple logic for date intersections. For instance, I need to find all the reserved rooms whose dates fall within the selected dates of a new reservation. I came up with a way to do that. It's a bit more complicated than using the SQL between function because BETWEEN is inclusive, and if you think about it, it's fine if a new reservation falls on the departure day of an existing one. So given that startdate and enddate are SQL columns in a reservation database, and the literal dates are the new reservation start and end dates, I give you this where clause: (startdate = 2012-1-11 AND startdate 2012-1-14) OR (enddate 2012-1-11 AND enddate = 2012-1-14) This in effect allows new reservations to begin on the day another ends, or end on the day another begins. I don't know why this kind of logic comes so hard for me sometimes. I have to draw pictures to sort it out. At any rate, if I can prevent someone else from having to go through the mental hoops I did, then I feel I have contributed. Bob ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode -- Pete Molly's Revenge http://www.mollysrevenge.com ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Menu Builder
On 1/11/12 6:51 PM, Pete wrote: In the first screen, I click the New button and on the next screen, give the menu a name and leave the give the menubar a name and uncheck the box move objects down to accommodate menu bar (I want the menu to be in the OS X menu bar). As soon as I click OK, all the controls on the open stack move up, some of them to be underneath the window title bar. Uhhh, I asked for them not to be moved down, not to be moved up! Last time I used the menu builder, I had major problems - every time I opened the stack, it's height increased by the height of the menu - incrementally. Never did get to the bottom of that, ended up setting the stack height by script to work around it. Is there another way to create OS X menu bar menus without using the menu builder? I find the Menu Builder to be the easiest way to build menus and I use it all the time. I don't find it buggy at all, I think of it as one of the most convenient features LiveCode offers. But you do need to understand how it works, or it will *appear* buggy. What you describe is exactly what is supposed to happen. There's info on how LiveCode menus work here: http://www.hyperactivesw.com/mctutorial/rraboutMenus.html What that mainly says is: to accomodate both Windows (where menus are on the card) and Mac (where menus are in the system menu bar,) LiveCode places your menu group at the top of the card and leaves it there on a Windows machine, or scrolls the card up and out of the way on a Mac. That places the top 26 pixels or so offscreen and out of sight on a Mac. It's a little like setting the scroll of the card to 26; the card top has moved up and out of the window bounds. When adding a new menu, you want blank space at the top of the card to allow room for the menu group. If you didn't create your menus first, you may have other objects already in the way. If so, they need to move down to accomodate the new group. If that's the case, you do want to check the box that moves everything down. If you've left room for the group already, skip that checkbox. It's a one-time relocation and very convenient when you decide in the middle of a project that you need a menubar on a screen where there are already objects in the way. I used to use a custom script for that until the Menu Builder came along. Whether or not you move your objects down, if the stack has the menu group assigned, the card will scroll upward on a Mac. All your objects will appear to move up when it does that. They haven't really moved; their locations are still the same. But now that the top of the card has moved out of view, the objects have moved along with it and appear to have changed positions. It's visual only. Menu builder is convenient, not only because it can create menus quickly, but because it can enter all those tedious switch/case scripts automatically. All I have to do after that is go in and fill in the working parts. It also lays out menu items in the right order so that Preferences and Help manage to show up in the right places cross-platform. You can toggle the scroll on and off on a Mac by toggling preview as menu bar. This just sets the editmenus property of the stack to true, which unscrolls the card. (I often just type the command into the message box.) Unscrolling the card brings the menu group into view, showing it as it will look on Windows, and making it easy to select and edit button scripts or lay out other objects. When I'm done, I set the editmenus to false again and the menu bar scrolls back up out of the way and appears in the system menu. Tip: if you add a menu group late in development and need to move objects down to accomodate it, some objects may get pushed off the bottom of the card. You'll need to increase the stack height to adjust for the new locations. -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | jac...@hyperactivesw.com HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Menu Builder
As soon as I click OK, all the controls on the open stack move up, some of them to be underneath the window title bar. Uhhh, I asked for them not to be moved down, not to be moved up! Oh, forgot: you've probably designed your card with space at the top that you want to preserve. If so, then you do want to check the move everything down checkbox, so that when the card scrolls back up your objects will appear to be in the same relative positions as you originally had them. Make your stack 26 pixels taller to accomodate the new object locations. There's another trick if you don't want to use the menu builder. You can create a menu group and just hide it. It will still show in the system menu if the group is assigned as the stack's menu bar, but the scroll won't happen if the group is hidden. You'd need to script a command on openstack that checks the platform and shows the group if you plan to run the stack on Windows. -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | jac...@hyperactivesw.com HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Menu Builder
Jacqi, Your explanation should appear on the Menu Builder Dialog from a Help Button thereon. It would save a lot of newbies gobs of hair follicles. I don't recall how many hours I've wasted coming to terms with these issues; in some instances scraping a project and starting all over again. Of course that happens from time to time anyway; and it's usually a good thing. (smile) Joe Wilkins On Jan 11, 2012, at 8:17 PM, J. Landman Gay wrote: On 1/11/12 6:51 PM, Pete wrote: In the first screen, I click the New button and on the next screen, give the menu a name and leave the give the menubar a name and uncheck the box move objects down to accommodate menu bar (I want the menu to be in the OS X menu bar). As soon as I click OK, all the controls on the open stack move up, some of them to be underneath the window title bar. Uhhh, I asked for them not to be moved down, not to be moved up! Last time I used the menu builder, I had major problems - every time I opened the stack, it's height increased by the height of the menu - incrementally. Never did get to the bottom of that, ended up setting the stack height by script to work around it. Is there another way to create OS X menu bar menus without using the menu builder? I find the Menu Builder to be the easiest way to build menus and I use it all the time. I don't find it buggy at all, I think of it as one of the most convenient features LiveCode offers. But you do need to understand how it works, or it will *appear* buggy. What you describe is exactly what is supposed to happen. There's info on how LiveCode menus work here: http://www.hyperactivesw.com/mctutorial/rraboutMenus.html What that mainly says is: to accomodate both Windows (where menus are on the card) and Mac (where menus are in the system menu bar,) LiveCode places your menu group at the top of the card and leaves it there on a Windows machine, or scrolls the card up and out of the way on a Mac. That places the top 26 pixels or so offscreen and out of sight on a Mac. It's a little like setting the scroll of the card to 26; the card top has moved up and out of the window bounds. When adding a new menu, you want blank space at the top of the card to allow room for the menu group. If you didn't create your menus first, you may have other objects already in the way. If so, they need to move down to accomodate the new group. If that's the case, you do want to check the box that moves everything down. If you've left room for the group already, skip that checkbox. It's a one-time relocation and very convenient when you decide in the middle of a project that you need a menubar on a screen where there are already objects in the way. I used to use a custom script for that until the Menu Builder came along. Whether or not you move your objects down, if the stack has the menu group assigned, the card will scroll upward on a Mac. All your objects will appear to move up when it does that. They haven't really moved; their locations are still the same. But now that the top of the card has moved out of view, the objects have moved along with it and appear to have changed positions. It's visual only. Menu builder is convenient, not only because it can create menus quickly, but because it can enter all those tedious switch/case scripts automatically. All I have to do after that is go in and fill in the working parts. It also lays out menu items in the right order so that Preferences and Help manage to show up in the right places cross-platform. You can toggle the scroll on and off on a Mac by toggling preview as menu bar. This just sets the editmenus property of the stack to true, which unscrolls the card. (I often just type the command into the message box.) Unscrolling the card brings the menu group into view, showing it as it will look on Windows, and making it easy to select and edit button scripts or lay out other objects. When I'm done, I set the editmenus to false again and the menu bar scrolls back up out of the way and appears in the system menu. Tip: if you add a menu group late in development and need to move objects down to accomodate it, some objects may get pushed off the bottom of the card. You'll need to increase the stack height to adjust for the new locations. -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | jac...@hyperactivesw.com HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences:
Re: Menu Builder
On 1/11/12 10:41 PM, Joe Lewis Wilkins wrote: Jacqi, Your explanation should appear on the Menu Builder Dialog from a Help Button thereon. It would save a lot of newbies gobs of hair follicles. Thanks. I thought it was in the User Guide but I just looked and couldn't find much. Once you get it, everything falls into place. But you're right there needs to be something more specific in the docs about the overall idea. There's a whole scripting conference stack just about menus too: http://www.runrev.com/developers/lessons-and-tutorials/tutorials/online-scripting-conferences/ Jeanne DeVoto wrote it and she's an excellent documenter. I forgot to link to that in my other post. -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | jac...@hyperactivesw.com HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Menu Builder
Thanks Jacque. Things appear to be working now but I have no idea what combination of things I did to make it happen, and I hate that. Your explanation and the links helped explain it all. As Joe said, if only this was in the User Guide, there'd be a lot less nervousness about using the menu builder. I'll go back to Mark's original comment in this thread - maybe it's not buggy once you understand it but it's definitely unintuitive. I have one remaining issue to deal with and that has to do with some window resizing I do which now will have to take account of the menu group, probably differently on Windows than on OS X. Fortunately, the code to do the resizing is all in one handler so once I figure out whether to add the 26 pixels or subtract them, all should be OK. Pete On Wed, Jan 11, 2012 at 9:06 PM, J. Landman Gay jac...@hyperactivesw.comwrote: On 1/11/12 10:41 PM, Joe Lewis Wilkins wrote: Jacqi, Your explanation should appear on the Menu Builder Dialog from a Help Button thereon. It would save a lot of newbies gobs of hair follicles. Thanks. I thought it was in the User Guide but I just looked and couldn't find much. Once you get it, everything falls into place. But you're right there needs to be something more specific in the docs about the overall idea. There's a whole scripting conference stack just about menus too: http://www.runrev.com/**developers/lessons-and-** tutorials/tutorials/online-**scripting-conferences/http://www.runrev.com/developers/lessons-and-tutorials/tutorials/online-scripting-conferences/ Jeanne DeVoto wrote it and she's an excellent documenter. I forgot to link to that in my other post. -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | jac...@hyperactivesw.com HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com __**_ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/**mailman/listinfo/use-livecodehttp://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode -- Pete Molly's Revenge http://www.mollysrevenge.com ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Menu Builder
All of these suggestions are well and good; but, on my most recent project, I bi-passed the entire problem by creating my own menus on the cards for both the Mac and Windows versions of a much larger size so that I don't have to deal with the minuscule fonts normally used for Windows apps. This way they appear in 18 pt. Arial for both versions - and I can read them. It was a lot of work, but with my poor vision it was well worth it, and those I've shown it to agree with me. Personally, I'll never do things any other way now that I've gone this route. Anyone who would like a screen shot off-line just let me know. I haven't kept up with the web development, so I've yet to learn how to upload stuff so that others may download it. Joe Wilkins On Jan 11, 2012, at 9:06 PM, J. Landman Gay wrote: On 1/11/12 10:41 PM, Joe Lewis Wilkins wrote: Jacqi, Your explanation should appear on the Menu Builder Dialog from a Help Button thereon. It would save a lot of newbies gobs of hair follicles. Thanks. I thought it was in the User Guide but I just looked and couldn't find much. Once you get it, everything falls into place. But you're right there needs to be something more specific in the docs about the overall idea. There's a whole scripting conference stack just about menus too: http://www.runrev.com/developers/lessons-and-tutorials/tutorials/online-scripting-conferences/ Jeanne DeVoto wrote it and she's an excellent documenter. I forgot to link to that in my other post. -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | jac...@hyperactivesw.com HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Menu Builder
OK, now on to the next step. Menus working fine, all scripted. Now I want to add a menu item to the File menu in certain circumstances. I coded a mouseDown handler in the button named File in my menu group to do this. It gets the text of the menu, adds the text for the new menu item to the end and puts it back into the menu's text property. New text never appears. Set a breakpoint at the start of the handler so I can check my logic, even inserted a breakpoint command. Never breaks. The menuPick is right there in the same script and it works fine so why doesn't mouseDown get handled? On Wed, Jan 11, 2012 at 9:06 PM, J. Landman Gay jac...@hyperactivesw.comwrote: On 1/11/12 10:41 PM, Joe Lewis Wilkins wrote: Jacqi, Your explanation should appear on the Menu Builder Dialog from a Help Button thereon. It would save a lot of newbies gobs of hair follicles. Thanks. I thought it was in the User Guide but I just looked and couldn't find much. Once you get it, everything falls into place. But you're right there needs to be something more specific in the docs about the overall idea. There's a whole scripting conference stack just about menus too: http://www.runrev.com/**developers/lessons-and-** tutorials/tutorials/online-**scripting-conferences/http://www.runrev.com/developers/lessons-and-tutorials/tutorials/online-scripting-conferences/ Jeanne DeVoto wrote it and she's an excellent documenter. I forgot to link to that in my other post. -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | jac...@hyperactivesw.com HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com __**_ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/**mailman/listinfo/use-livecodehttp://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode -- Pete Molly's Revenge http://www.mollysrevenge.com ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode