Re: Why killing Media was killing an investment in the future
Le 19 juil. 2012 à 20:23, Bob Sneidar a écrit : I think the real key to making LC insanely profitable for RR is for us, the developers, to produce really good commercial apps on a regular basis using LC, and proudly display on our splash screens: Made With Livecode! -- Pierre Sahores mobile : 06 03 95 77 70 www.sahores-conseil.com ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Why killing Media was killing an investment in the future
Probably a true worldwide diagnostic, especially applicable in France too... Le 19 juil. 2012 à 22:07, Bob Sneidar a écrit : It's my personal opinion that we ought to be making a much bigger effort to improve education across the board, and no, more money does not accomplish that goal. California has one of the highest per capita budgets for education, and yet one of the worst records. If spending more money fixed things, California would be a glowing model of socialist success! If we teach our children how to analyze problems and formulate solutions, we will be in a much better place to teach them all things. Our kids need not only job skills, but a sound work ethic, and our policies are what teach them exactly the opposite. I think the current system is broken in California, and in most states, and standing in the way are public unions who are in bed with the politicians, so we cannot get rid of the incompetent administrators and policy makers. Ever. Until we get rid of the public unions. Nothing is going to change until the incompetent are replaced with the competent. -- Pierre Sahores mobile : 06 03 95 77 70 www.sahores-conseil.com ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Why killing Media was killing an investment in the future
It's not just that many people who develop for mobile have already settled on their tools, e.g. Java, Objective-C or in some cases the Lua based platforms. Which means for pure ease of use they prefer to stay where they are even if overall they may save time/money by switching to RR. While you can use the code once argument with LC that is not always enough as some are reluctant to use a tool they have not heard much about. This is also in part related to the lack of books problem highlighted elsewhere. There are also many other technical arguments which may or may not be disputed such as High level languages drain the battery more quickly - one which I heard recently. We chose LC because of the nature of our team which is a mix of CS and non-CS people and the ability to rapidly prototype GUI's on all platforms. If you have a team with a large mix of people then using a higher-level almost self documenting programming language has a number of advantages. However, these advantages may not apply to those who have grown up on Java or C++ and do not really want to learn anything else. Cheers, rod On 21 July 2012 12:01, Pierre Sahores s...@sahores-conseil.com wrote: Probably a true worldwide diagnostic, especially applicable in France too... Le 19 juil. 2012 à 22:07, Bob Sneidar a écrit : It's my personal opinion that we ought to be making a much bigger effort to improve education across the board, and no, more money does not accomplish that goal. California has one of the highest per capita budgets for education, and yet one of the worst records. If spending more money fixed things, California would be a glowing model of socialist success! If we teach our children how to analyze problems and formulate solutions, we will be in a much better place to teach them all things. Our kids need not only job skills, but a sound work ethic, and our policies are what teach them exactly the opposite. I think the current system is broken in California, and in most states, and standing in the way are public unions who are in bed with the politicians, so we cannot get rid of the incompetent administrators and policy makers. Ever. Until we get rid of the public unions. Nothing is going to change until the incompetent are replaced with the competent. -- Pierre Sahores mobile : 06 03 95 77 70 www.sahores-conseil.com ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode -- Dr Rod McCall Researcher in in-car, mixed reality technology and gaming Interdisciplinary Centre for Security, Reliability and Trust University of Luxembourg Blog: www.rodmc.com twitter:rodlux Publications and Information available on my blog ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Preview of Resolution Independent Control library for RevMobile
Hey all, As you know, Ken and I have been working on some interesting libs for managing resizing of stacks. I'm particularly focussed on RevMobile and have created a toolset which allows developers to easily create resolution independent interfaces-- which smartly resize to take advantage of any mobile device, Android or iOS (Retina included). Here's a preview. You may see some small resizing errors in the preview-- they've been fixed. I hope to launch this sooner than later for you all to use. Contact me offlist if you need it sooner. http://youtu.be/vY6r46O0cVA Be sure to holler if you see anything which doesn't seem correct. :-) -- Chipp Walters CEO, Altuit, Inc. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: just where does livecode go when the ide takes a minute or two off?
On Friday, July 20, 2012, J. Landman Gay wrote Was the dictionary open? Maybe that old user-notes bug came back? It is uncommon for me *not* to have the dictionary open . . . -- The Hawkins Law Firm Richard E. Hawkins, Esq. (702) 508-8462 hawkinslawf...@gmail.com 3025 S. Maryland Parkway Suite A Las Vegas, NV 89109 ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: The future of LiveCode
I saw HyperTalk -- The Book in a bookstore [remember bookstores?] when I was saving up to get my first mac and bought it right away. I read it over one summer before I even had a computer, and when I finally got the machine I was off and running. Hypercard became my major tool from the get-go. I ended up turning the Hypercard FAQ into a searchable stack, which had some circulation for a while in the HC community. That exercise started me learning text parsing, as I had it set up to automagically take Peter Fleck's latest FAQ update and import it and have it sorted into cards with the proper formatting. I'd have the updated version of the stack ready within 15 minutes of his new release. Ah, the old days…. -- Peter Peter M. Brigham pmb...@gmail.com http://home.comcast.net/~pmbrig On Jul 20, 2012, at 8:29 PM, Tim Selander wrote: Yes, a fantastic book that really unlocked HC for me. It is the best computer book I have ever read! Tim Selander Tokyo, Japan On 7/21/12 1:28 AM, Jim Hurley wrote: Professor Goldberg, A bit daunting because of its size, but I learned HyperTalk from the truly wonderful book: HyperTalk The Book. By Winkler and Kamins, and later, our own, Jean DeVoto, who did the original RunRev dictionary. I am a strong believer in learning from examples--after the basic theory. Jim Hurley Emeritus Professor of Physics, Univ. of California ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Preview of Resolution Independent Control library for RevMobile
Hey this looks awesome! This would certainly save a lot of time! On Sat, Jul 21, 2012 at 7:03 AM, Chipp Walters ch...@chipp.com wrote: Hey all, As you know, Ken and I have been working on some interesting libs for managing resizing of stacks. I'm particularly focussed on RevMobile and have created a toolset which allows developers to easily create resolution independent interfaces-- which smartly resize to take advantage of any mobile device, Android or iOS (Retina included). Here's a preview. You may see some small resizing errors in the preview-- they've been fixed. I hope to launch this sooner than later for you all to use. Contact me offlist if you need it sooner. http://youtu.be/vY6r46O0cVA Be sure to holler if you see anything which doesn't seem correct. :-) -- Chipp Walters CEO, Altuit, Inc. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Preview of Resolution Independent Control library for RevMobile
Is that Interface Builder a new lib as well or is that available someplace? SKIP On Sat, Jul 21, 2012 at 10:14 AM, Magicgate Software - Skip Kimpel s...@magicgate.com wrote: Hey this looks awesome! This would certainly save a lot of time! On Sat, Jul 21, 2012 at 7:03 AM, Chipp Walters ch...@chipp.com wrote: Hey all, As you know, Ken and I have been working on some interesting libs for managing resizing of stacks. I'm particularly focussed on RevMobile and have created a toolset which allows developers to easily create resolution independent interfaces-- which smartly resize to take advantage of any mobile device, Android or iOS (Retina included). Here's a preview. You may see some small resizing errors in the preview-- they've been fixed. I hope to launch this sooner than later for you all to use. Contact me offlist if you need it sooner. http://youtu.be/vY6r46O0cVA Be sure to holler if you see anything which doesn't seem correct. :-) -- Chipp Walters CEO, Altuit, Inc. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Why killing Media was killing an investment in the future
Oh, bob slylabs is posting again? What a pity. -- View this message in context: http://runtime-revolution.278305.n4.nabble.com/Why-killing-Media-was-killing-an-investment-in-the-future-tp4652364p4652561.html Sent from the Revolution - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: RevMobile: Native controls
42 minutes of HD instruction; time well spent! I can't wait to get the stsResizeLib. ~Roger On Sat, Jul 21, 2012 at 7:56 AM, Chipp Walters wrote: Check out my latest resizing library (using part of Ken's stsResizeLib). http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vY6r46O0cVA -- Chipp Walters CEO, Altuit, Inc. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: The future of LiveCode
I have a handful of copies of HyperTalk... I was worried I might run out of them. But it is Goodman that is needed, not Winkler, et al. The LC dictionary does a creditable job of presenting the language. It might be greatly improved, as some have mentioned, if more and larger examples were given. But the Handbook introduces and details structure, and that is what is needed for a beginner. I think such a thing could be a tenth the size of Goodman, though framed in the same way, and with no attempt to be complete. Just an introductory gadget that would leave a newbie with the ability to make a decent address book, say, with ease and confidence. After that, perusing the dictionary and learning advanced techniques would lay well with their comfort zone. Craig Newman -Original Message- From: Peter M. Brigham pmb...@gmail.com To: How to use LiveCode use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Sent: Sat, Jul 21, 2012 10:07 am Subject: Re: The future of LiveCode I saw HyperTalk -- The Book in a bookstore [remember bookstores?] when I was saving up to get my first mac and bought it right away. I read it over one summer before I even had a computer, and when I finally got the machine I was off and running. Hypercard became my major tool from the get-go. I ended up turning the Hypercard FAQ into a searchable stack, which had some circulation for a while in the HC community. That exercise started me learning text parsing, as I had it set up to automagically take Peter Fleck's latest FAQ update and import it and have it sorted into cards with the proper formatting. I'd have the updated version of the stack ready within 15 minutes of his new release. Ah, the old days…. -- Peter Peter M. Brigham pmb...@gmail.com http://home.comcast.net/~pmbrig On Jul 20, 2012, at 8:29 PM, Tim Selander wrote: Yes, a fantastic book that really unlocked HC for me. It is the best computer book I have ever read! Tim Selander Tokyo, Japan On 7/21/12 1:28 AM, Jim Hurley wrote: Professor Goldberg, A bit daunting because of its size, but I learned HyperTalk from the truly wonderful book: HyperTalk The Book. By Winkler and Kamins, and later, our own, Jean DeVoto, who did the original RunRev dictionary. I am a strong believer in learning from examples--after the basic theory. Jim Hurley Emeritus Professor of Physics, Univ. of California ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Stashing 3 or 4 characters into a text for db storage
As I'm adjusting my data to get ready for postgreSQL instead of SQLite, I've pretty much settled on having two, rather than one, data tables. Dollar amounts and other simple things will go into one table, while text will go into another with a VACHAR type. I have various calculated properties that are typically set as either single letter strings or three character strings. I have a custom property datTyp on fields to keep track of what they use--D for Dollars (store as cents as intenger); I for integers; B for boolean (store as 1/0); T1 for single characters, has an obvious ascii conversion. But what about stashing 3 or four characters? Obviously there's enough bits in a four byte integer to do this, but is there a built in function, by any chance, that would handle this? (I'm having flashbacks to the way we stashed ints floats into fields in BASIC-80 5.0 . . . which would be perfect for this). I guess there's put numtochar(tVal mod 65536 ) numtoChar(tval bitand 65279 / 256) numToChar(tval bitAnd 255) into tStr and put 65536* charToNum(char 1 of tStr) + 256 * charToNum(char 2 of tStr) + charToNum(char 3 of tStr) into tVal but they seem so awkward for converting something into itself . . . -- The Hawkins Law Firm Richard E. Hawkins, Esq. (702) 508-8462 hawkinslawf...@gmail.com 3025 S. Maryland Parkway Suite A Las Vegas, NV 89109 ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: just where does livecode go when the ide takes a minute or two off?
OK, now I just got it after saving, removing from memory, and reloading . . . and it looks like the system, load spiked (red on mac) for a bit too, before it went all green (user) I can watch the spiked load pass from core to core, though. If the debugger is to be trusted (and it shouldn't have launched!), it is in a ck, which is a trivial function that puts its argument after a field in a stack for me to watch (created because there is no messagebox in the standalones, and to give me a longer list). The next line is a breakpoint. It hasn't just gone away; it's just plain hung. Off to forcequit . . . ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: just where does livecode go when the ide takes a minute or two off?
On 7/21/12 11:36 AM, Dr. Hawkins wrote: OK, now I just got it after saving, removing from memory, and reloading . . . and it looks like the system, load spiked (red on mac) for a bit too, before it went all green (user) Try keeping the dictionary closed for a while and see if it still happens. That may narrow down the cause one way or the other. -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | jac...@hyperactivesw.com HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Works in a button but not in the message box
OK, Here's a question: Why does this line of code work in a button but throw an error when run in the message box? set the rect of control Container to ((the left of this card + 5),(the bottom of group nav bar + 5),(the right of this card - 5),(the top of group toolbar - 5)) Message execution error: Error description: value: error executing expression Hint: set the rect of control Container to ((the left of this card + 5),(the bottom of group nav bar + 5),(the right of this card - 5),(the top of group toolbar - 5)) In a button the graphic Container will resize to fit between the navbar and toolbar with a 5 pixel margin. What I was hoping to do is replace these lines of code with the above code. -- set the width of control Container to the width of this card -10 -- put (the top of group toolbar - 5) - (the bottom of group nav bar +5) into tContainerHeight -- set the height of control Container to tContainerHeight -- set the topLeft of control Container to 5,(the bottom of group nav bar +5) Thanks -- Tom McGrath III http://lazyriver.on-rev.com 3mcgr...@comcast.net ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Works in a button but not in the message box
On Sat, Jul 21, 2012 at 9:53 AM, Thomas McGrath III mcgra...@mac.com wrote: set the rect of control Container to ((the left of this card + 5),(the bottom of group nav bar + 5),(the right of this card - 5),(the top of group toolbar - 5)) try put the name of this card in the message box. It isn't always what you'd expect. -- The Hawkins Law Firm Richard E. Hawkins, Esq. (702) 508-8462 hawkinslawf...@gmail.com 3025 S. Maryland Parkway Suite A Las Vegas, NV 89109 ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Works in a button but not in the message box
On 7/21/12 11:53 AM, Thomas McGrath III wrote: OK, Here's a question: Why does this line of code work in a button but throw an error when run in the message box? set the rect of control Container to ((the left of this card + 5),(the bottom of group nav bar + 5),(the right of this card - 5),(the top of group toolbar - 5)) I see that occasionally. I think it has to do with the contortions the message box has to go through to evaluate expressions. Sometimes they don't work. Sometimes you can put the expression into a variable first and then execute the set using the 2-line message box. -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | jac...@hyperactivesw.com HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Preview of Resolution Independent Control library for RevMobile
Hi Chipp, Looks great... can't wait to use it! I have at least 3 projects in the pipeline for which it will be invaluable. May I suggest that it could be very nice to have a keyboard shortcut for refresh position, since it looks like you are clicking that button an awful lot. It looks like my little ResTool plugin would be useful with this. ( http://buchwald.ca/lc/ResTool.livecode.zip ) I'd be interested to update it to work with your tools and libraries. Let me know what or how I could do that to be useful to these efforts. Cheers, - Charles On 2012-07-21, at 6:03 AM, Chipp Walters wrote: Hey all, As you know, Ken and I have been working on some interesting libs for managing resizing of stacks. I'm particularly focussed on RevMobile and have created a toolset which allows developers to easily create resolution independent interfaces-- which smartly resize to take advantage of any mobile device, Android or iOS (Retina included). Here's a preview. You may see some small resizing errors in the preview-- they've been fixed. I hope to launch this sooner than later for you all to use. Contact me offlist if you need it sooner. http://youtu.be/vY6r46O0cVA Be sure to holler if you see anything which doesn't seem correct. :-) -- Chipp Walters CEO, Altuit, Inc. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode -- Charles E. Buchwald http://buchwald.ca Vancouver / Mexico City / NYC Member of the 02 Global Network for Sustainable Design • Connect on LinkedIn • Follow me on Twitter ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Works in a button but not in the message box
I agree, the message box is often frazzled trying to keep track of everything. If you substitute card CardName|cardNumber|cardID for this card, does the problem go away? Craig Newman -Original Message- From: J. Landman Gay jac...@hyperactivesw.com To: How to use LiveCode use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Sent: Sat, Jul 21, 2012 1:26 pm Subject: Re: Works in a button but not in the message box On 7/21/12 11:53 AM, Thomas McGrath III wrote: OK, Here's a question: Why does this line of code work in a button but throw an error when run in the message box? set the rect of control Container to ((the left of this card + 5),(the bottom of group nav bar + 5),(the right of this card - 5),(the top of group toolbar - 5)) I see that occasionally. I think it has to do with the contortions the message box has to go through to evaluate expressions. Sometimes they don't work. Sometimes you can put the expression into a variable first and then execute the set using the 2-line message box. -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | jac...@hyperactivesw.com HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Stashing 3 or 4 characters into a text for db storage
Not sure I understand what you want, but are you married to having a single numeric string encode your three/four char data? It would be so much easier to store them as direct strings, with something unambiguous as delimiters, maybe even a comma? I am sure I am not getting this... Craig Newman -Original Message- From: Dr. Hawkins doch...@gmail.com To: How to use LiveCode use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Sent: Sat, Jul 21, 2012 12:24 pm Subject: Stashing 3 or 4 characters into a text for db storage As I'm adjusting my data to get ready for postgreSQL instead of SQLite, I've pretty much settled on having two, rather than one, data tables. Dollar amounts and other simple things will go into one table, while text will go into another with a VACHAR type. I have various calculated properties that are typically set as either single letter strings or three character strings. I have a custom property datTyp on fields to keep track of what they use--D for Dollars (store as cents as intenger); I for integers; B for boolean (store as 1/0); T1 for single characters, has an obvious ascii conversion. But what about stashing 3 or four characters? Obviously there's enough bits in a four byte integer to do this, but is there a built in function, by any chance, that would handle this? (I'm having flashbacks to the way we stashed ints floats into fields in BASIC-80 5.0 . . . which would be perfect for this). I guess there's put numtochar(tVal mod 65536 ) numtoChar(tval bitand 65279 / 256) numToChar(tval bitAnd 255) into tStr and put 65536* charToNum(char 1 of tStr) + 256 * charToNum(char 2 of tStr) + charToNum(char 3 of tStr) into tVal but they seem so awkward for converting something into itself . . . -- The Hawkins Law Firm Richard E. Hawkins, Esq. (702) 508-8462 hawkinslawf...@gmail.com 3025 S. Maryland Parkway Suite A Las Vegas, NV 89109 ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: RevMobile: Native controls
Chipp, Nice tool. Very clear presentation. Thanks, Jim Lambert ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: breakdown of my book
Colin, Thanks for the breakdown of your book. Glad the wait is one month less! Jim Lambert ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Stashing 3 or 4 characters into a text for db storage
On Sat, Jul 21, 2012 at 10:59 AM, dunb...@aol.com wrote: Not sure I understand what you want, but are you married to having a single numeric string encode your three/four char data? no, just trying to be efficient--an integer has four bytes, which invites me to use it :_) It would be so much easier to store them as direct strings, with something unambiguous as delimiters, maybe even a comma? The main data about the debtor (pretty much everything but the debts assets) is, for the most part, fields valued in dollars. I'll have a table with columns for a keyword, an override value for entered data, and a default, all saved in an integer as cents rather than dollars (currently I have a column for the value itself, but that is redundant--if there's an overide, it's that, else it's the default). There are also text fields ranging from 1 to about 200 characters; I'll use a second table for that, with VARCHAR() to store them. Sticking the booleans integers in the numeric table is a no-brainer, as is single-character string. But is it more effecient to convert a four byte integer back and forth to string in livecode, or to store it as one of these variably lengthed strings? I assume that the database is an order of magnitude more efficient speedwise than a livecode conversion script, but it also means more data in this less-optimized table and a modest increase in storage space. Database usage is the precious resource given bandwidth storage, while livecode execution on the desktop is cheap -- The Hawkins Law Firm Richard E. Hawkins, Esq. (702) 508-8462 hawkinslawf...@gmail.com 3025 S. Maryland Parkway Suite A Las Vegas, NV 89109 ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: RevMobile: Native controls
Hi chipp Thanks for the video. This looks like a really helpful tool and I'm keen to get my hands on it. Do you have any ideas for handling landscape and tablet views? For tablets I think in most cases you would want a different stack so using a main stack with most of the code and a handheld and tablet substack would work. For landscape we need to be able to reposition the same controls, hide some, show some etc. So it's more like a profile. In some cases just resizing will work. But it would be nice to have a when in landscape move here or hide/show or something option. Also screen density on android is a headache because a high density phone could be higher res than a low density tablet. What are your thoughts on dealing with that? Cheers -- M E R Goulding Software development services mergExt - There's an external for that! On 21/07/2012, at 9:56 PM, Chipp Walters ch...@chipp.com wrote: Monte, I agree with you. We all know by now that Apple discourages using faux Apple-like controls UNLESS they are pixel perfect and strictly follow the Apple UI guidelines. But, they readily accept different interfaces as long as they are well done. Plus, being able to code one GUI and have it run on all favors of iOS and Android seems to be a wonderful approach. Check out my latest resizing library (using part of Ken's stsResizeLib). http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vY6r46O0cVA -- Chipp Walters CEO, Altuit, Inc. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Preview of Resolution Independent Control library for RevMobile
Hi Chipp, Watching this close, the methods in which you work in LiveCode is really inspiring. Thanks for sharing! Chipp Walters wrote [snip] Be sure to holler if you see anything which doesn't seem correct. :-) [snip] Tell me if I am wrong, but when you run the stack in the iPhone emulator, the bottom Home button stopped functioning. I think that I saw the cursor inside that button, but the hilite was not activated. Did I see this correctly? Keep Up your great work! Al -- View this message in context: http://runtime-revolution.278305.n4.nabble.com/Preview-of-Resolution-Independent-Control-library-for-RevMobile-tp4652555p4652578.html Sent from the Revolution - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: acceleratedrendering = true and ink = NOOP don't cooperate :-/
Hi Klaus and All, I'm just now trying to get my head around accelerated rendering. I don't have access to Windows, so can't comment specifically on what Klaus discovered. However, I can confirm a problem with INK and accelerated rendering on LC5.5.1 when running the app on iOS simulator or device. I noticed this when updating an app where images are dragged around…that's why I was using accelerated render…. I've set the INK on the draggable images to clear when the image is first shown to the user… with accelerated rendering set to false, the image is black…. with accelerated rendering set to true, the image seems to be stuck in its original color... In other words, if I change the INK state to clear while accelerated rendering is true, nothing happens… but, the image changes when I set accelerated rendering to false… I can tell by using the Inspector that the INK of the image has been set to clear…. It's easy to duplicate this problem, but I'd be happy to send out a small stack. Interestingly, in my main project… setting INK to clear still works on my Mac… but, the small demo stack doesn't work. Anyone have a work-around for this INK bump? be well, randy - On May 3, 2012, at 2:17 PM, Klaus on-rev wrote: Hi all, Am 03.05.2012 um 20:23 schrieb Klaus on-rev: Hi freinds I just found an evil bug on the Mac :-/ LiveCode 5.02 When you set the acceleratedrendering of this stack to true all objects with their INK set to NOOP will become visible again. This does not happen on Windows. Can someone please confirm this, before I bug report? Does this also happen in LC 5.5x? Bug #10202: http://quality.runrev.com/show_bug.cgi?id=10202 Best Klaus -- Klaus Major http://www.major-k.de kl...@major.on-rev.com ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
RE: Why killing Media was killing an investment in the future
Oh Lynn... With these words, you deflated the argument that I was about to write: Lynn Fredricks-2 wrote For any education to be at its best, you need to have kids coming from healthy, intellectually nurturing homes and neighborhoods, and a pipeline of communication. That's a much more complicated question, but solve that and the other stuff becomes much easier and cheaper. But anyway, here it goes: Because the school's environment actually have a definite and stellar influence in the student's learning... I was ready to suggest: Invite the best and brightest students from all the world for one month of advanced classes. In this month, students from USA could watch and learn from the study habits of their peers in other parts of the world. According to Lynn's comments, this exemplary experience would not help much unless USA students have supportive and loving parents. Well... hope was the last one to leave the Pandora Box, in which our whole world has become. Alejandro -- View this message in context: http://runtime-revolution.278305.n4.nabble.com/Why-killing-Media-was-killing-an-investment-in-the-future-tp4652364p4652581.html Sent from the Revolution - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: RevMobile: Native controls
On Sat, Jul 21, 2012 at 8:59 PM, Roger Eller roger.e.el...@sealedair.comwrote: Also screen density on android is a headache because a high density phone could be higher res than a low density tablet. What are your thoughts on dealing with that? To be fair, try editing a stack for the new iPad resolution even on a 1920x1200 monitor. However, the resTool stack that was recently shared/offered to Chipp makes an easy task of managing every resolution known to man, it appears. 2 cents. :-) The problem is not editing the stacks, the problem is figuring out at runtime if you're running on a cheap android tablet or an expensive high end android phone. We need something along the lines of: mobileIsDeviceAPhone() mobileIsDeviceATablet() If we can figure out this then we can present a better layout. Another thing would be a good way to return the screen physical size, for example 7 inches for Nexus 7 and Kindle Fire. ~Roger ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode -- http://www.andregarzia.com -- All We Do Is Code. http://fon.nu -- minimalist url shortening service. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: RevMobile: Native controls
Andre- Saturday, July 21, 2012, 5:08:46 PM, you wrote: If we can figure out this then we can present a better layout. Another thing would be a good way to return the screen physical size, for example 7 inches for Nexus 7 and Kindle Fire. Can you shell to xrandr to get this? -- -Mark Wieder mwie...@ahsoftware.net ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: RevMobile: Native controls
On Sat, Jul 21, 2012 at 9:16 PM, Mark Wieder mwie...@ahsoftware.net wrote: Andre- Saturday, July 21, 2012, 5:08:46 PM, you wrote: If we can figure out this then we can present a better layout. Another thing would be a good way to return the screen physical size, for example 7 inches for Nexus 7 and Kindle Fire. Can you shell to xrandr to get this? Is there a xrandr on Android? :-O -- -Mark Wieder mwie...@ahsoftware.net ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode -- http://www.andregarzia.com -- All We Do Is Code. http://fon.nu -- minimalist url shortening service. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: RevMobile: Native controls
Hi Monte, Landscape should work just fine-- it's the rotation which can possibly cause problems. One way to do this is with 2 stacks. Another way to do it is with a large square stack and different cards. The library has the ability to render objects on all cards at startup, or using a preOpenCard handler-- this way if you have a lot of cards and/or controls on cards, you can defer the scaling to as needed. I'll post the beta version of the plugin and framework today and you can try it out. On Sat, Jul 21, 2012 at 4:39 PM, Monte Goulding mo...@sweattechnologies.com wrote: Hi chipp Thanks for the video. This looks like a really helpful tool and I'm keen to get my hands on it. Do you have any ideas for handling landscape and tablet views? For tablets I think in most cases you would want a different stack so using a main stack with most of the code and a handheld and tablet substack would work. For landscape we need to be able to reposition the same controls, hide some, show some etc. So it's more like a profile. In some cases just resizing will work. But it would be nice to have a when in landscape move here or hide/show or something option. Also screen density on android is a headache because a high density phone could be higher res than a low density tablet. What are your thoughts on dealing with that? Cheers -- M E R Goulding Software development services mergExt - There's an external for that! On 21/07/2012, at 9:56 PM, Chipp Walters ch...@chipp.com wrote: Monte, I agree with you. We all know by now that Apple discourages using faux Apple-like controls UNLESS they are pixel perfect and strictly follow the Apple UI guidelines. But, they readily accept different interfaces as long as they are well done. Plus, being able to code one GUI and have it run on all favors of iOS and Android seems to be a wonderful approach. Check out my latest resizing library (using part of Ken's stsResizeLib). http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vY6r46O0cVA -- Chipp Walters CEO, Altuit, Inc. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode -- Chipp Walters CEO, Altuit, Inc. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Preview of Resolution Independent Control library for RevMobile
FYI, for those interested... I don't lock scripts and anyone can use this in their commercial projects free of charge. IOW, this is a professional library which you can edit and use however you like (just don't try and sell it please!) On Sat, Jul 21, 2012 at 7:36 PM, Chipp Walters ch...@chipp.com wrote: Sorry the double post-- I originally thought the OTHER post was my originating one. I've added some auto-install procedures to the plugin and it's now available for testing at: http://www.gadgetplugins.com/altplugins/altMobileResizer.rev Put it in your plugins folder or your altPlugs folder. Don't forget there's an update button on it! From the very prelim docs: - altMobileResizer plugin (c)2012 Chipp Walters Thanks to portions by Ken Ray! This plugin creates a resizing framework for mobile devices so devlopers only have to create a single layout and it will smartly resize all controls on each card when the app first launches on a mobile device. Selecting the Stack tab, the plugin installs a library and OpenStack handler on the first card of the app stack. You next add objects and controls (like the altButton DropTool) and then you can assign resizing properties to them using the Control tab controls. Because the library is installed, it's important you pass all resizeStack messages and preOpenCard messages. When first installing the library stack, two properties are set for the library stack: altStacksAffected - This is a list of the names of the stacks for which the library will run on. altResizeAllCardsAtOnce - This is a boolean (defaults to true) which tells the library to resize all controls on all cards at startup. If not true, then it will resize all controls on a preOpenCard handler which may speed startup if you have a lot of cards in your stack. Also, remember to set the resizeQuality to GOOD (not NORMAL or BEST) for all images-- and reduce the images by 50% in width and height for the smaller min size. This way when going to the 2X Retina size they will be at full resolution. You can only edit the position and resize settings for objects when the stack is in minWidth mode. If you change the position or rect of a control, then you'll need to be sure and press the refresh position button to store the new settings. -- Chipp Walters CEO, Altuit, Inc. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: RevMobile: Native controls
On Sat, Jul 21, 2012 at 9:34 PM, Chipp Walters ch...@chipp.com wrote: I typically think either we're designing for Tablets or Phones-- but not for both at the same time. Most devs I've seen tend to develop 2 different apps if they need to support both. There is one good case for developing a single application that runs on both the iPhone and the iPad. Universal apps rank higher on the search results from the iTunes App Store. Also you will get a larger number of installs (the sum of the phone and tablet users) for the same app which will make it more attractive to Android uses because people look at how many people are using this before installing. Both comments are more useful for those developing generic horizontal market apps such as games or business apps with a broad appeal. If you're developing for a vertical then it doesn't matter, your users will have other ways of finding you. cheers andre -- http://www.andregarzia.com -- All We Do Is Code. http://fon.nu -- minimalist url shortening service. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: RevMobile: Native controls
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Re: RevMobile: Native controls
Andre, I suppose if you wanted to develop both for phone and tablet, you could use 2 different stacks, each using the same altMobileResizer framework and then branch to them by editing the openStack handler on cd 1 of the main stack. There is one good case for developing a single application that runs on both the iPhone and the iPad. Universal apps rank higher on the search results from the iTunes App Store. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Preview of Resolution Independent Control library for RevMobile
Awesome! Will it work with tmControl too? ~Roger On Jul 21, 2012 8:36 PM, Chipp Walters ch...@chipp.com wrote: Sorry the double post-- I originally thought the OTHER post was my originating one. I've added some auto-install procedures to the plugin and it's now available for testing at: http://www.gadgetplugins.com/altplugins/altMobileResizer.rev Put it in your plugins folder or your altPlugs folder. Don't forget there's an update button on it! From the very prelim docs: - altMobileResizer plugin (c)2012 Chipp Walters Thanks to portions by Ken Ray! This plugin creates a resizing framework for mobile devices so devlopers only have to create a single layout and it will smartly resize all controls on each card when the app first launches on a mobile device. Selecting the Stack tab, the plugin installs a library and OpenStack handler on the first card of the app stack. You next add objects and controls (like the altButton DropTool) and then you can assign resizing properties to them using the Control tab controls. Because the library is installed, it's important you pass all resizeStack messages and preOpenCard messages. When first installing the library stack, two properties are set for the library stack: altStacksAffected - This is a list of the names of the stacks for which the library will run on. altResizeAllCardsAtOnce - This is a boolean (defaults to true) which tells the library to resize all controls on all cards at startup. If not true, then it will resize all controls on a preOpenCard handler which may speed startup if you have a lot of cards in your stack. Also, remember to set the resizeQuality to GOOD (not NORMAL or BEST) for all images-- and reduce the images by 50% in width and height for the smaller min size. This way when going to the 2X Retina size they will be at full resolution. You can only edit the position and resize settings for objects when the stack is in minWidth mode. If you change the position or rect of a control, then you'll need to be sure and press the refresh position button to store the new settings. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: RevMobile: Native controls
On Sat, Jul 21, 2012 at 10:06 PM, Chipp Walters ch...@chipp.com wrote: Andre, I suppose if you wanted to develop both for phone and tablet, you could use 2 different stacks, each using the same altMobileResizer framework and then branch to them by editing the openStack handler on cd 1 of the main stack. That is exactly what I am doing. The problem is that on android there is no safe way of identifying if it is a tablet or a phone =) There is one good case for developing a single application that runs on both the iPhone and the iPad. Universal apps rank higher on the search results from the iTunes App Store. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode -- http://www.andregarzia.com -- All We Do Is Code. http://fon.nu -- minimalist url shortening service. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: RevMobile: Native controls
On 7/21/12 7:49 PM, Andre Garzia wrote: On Sat, Jul 21, 2012 at 9:34 PM, Chipp Walters ch...@chipp.com wrote: I typically think either we're designing for Tablets or Phones-- but not for both at the same time. Most devs I've seen tend to develop 2 different apps if they need to support both. There is one good case for developing a single application that runs on both the iPhone and the iPad. Universal apps rank higher on the search results from the iTunes App Store. Another reason is to have only one copy of the stack to update. I am currently designing an app for any mobile device available: iPhone, iPad, Android phone, Android tablet, anything. Monte asked how we manage resolutions and screen sizes. The way I do it is to ignore screen density and size and device type; I simply get the working screenrect and use pixels. All objects and placement are calculated by ratios. If a field needs to be a third of the size of the screen, then I multiply the width and height by .3 and that's how many pixels it is. With this method I don't have to know anything about the device at all, only the number of pixels available. I don't need to worry that it won't fit some new device that comes out next week, and it doesn't matter what OS is currently running. It works with Retina displays as well as tiny 2-inch phone screens. (I turn off the engine's auto-mapping for retina displays.) I don't use square cards, btw. I use a generically proportioned rectangular card to get an idea of where objects should be placed, since virtually all existing screens are rectangular. It helps me see how to organize and proportion the layout in both portrait and landscape views. Once I have a good layout for my generic screen rect, I calculate proportions from that and apply them in resize handlers. Now I'm keen to see what Chipp has done, I'm off to go look. -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | jac...@hyperactivesw.com HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Preview of Resolution Independent Control library for RevMobile
I don't know about tmControls. Do they respond to resizeStack and can hoe set their rect and loc? On Saturday, July 21, 2012, Roger Eller wrote: Awesome! Will it work with tmControl too? -- Chipp Walters CEO, Altuit, Inc. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: RevMobile: Native controls
Jacque, This framework works pretty much like you first described. I suspect you will find it worthwhile for your projects. -- Chipp Walters CEO, Altuit, Inc. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: acceleratedrendering = true and ink = NOOP don't cooperate :-/
On 7/21/12 5:37 PM, Randy Hengst wrote: I've set the INK on the draggable images to clear when the image is first shown to the user… with accelerated rendering set to false, the image is black…. with accelerated rendering set to true, the image seems to be stuck in its original color... In other words, if I change the INK state to clear while accelerated rendering is true, nothing happens… but, the image changes when I set accelerated rendering to false… This, along with Klaus' NOOP problem, is probably because the old inks were deprecated as of LiveCode version 5.0. They are now unsupported and may or may not work. The ink entry in the dictionary lists the supported alternatives. -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | jac...@hyperactivesw.com HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: RevMobile: Native controls
On 7/21/12 8:43 PM, Chipp Walters wrote: Jacque, This framework works pretty much like you first described. I suspect you will find it worthwhile for your projects. Yup, I was just looking at the scripts. It's a lot like I described. :) I see a stub in there from Ken's library that toggles whether you want to resize or just move an object, but the just move part is missing. That seems useful, any chance we can get it back in there? Nice job on this, Chipp and Ken. -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | jac...@hyperactivesw.com HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: acceleratedrendering = true and ink = NOOP don't cooperate :-/
Hi Jacque, Thanks for the scoop. That's good to know… To be honest, since they are still listed under the blend options, I didn't think about them being discontinued. As I mentioned, clear still turns the image black (like I want) in my original app … I didn't notice the problem until I added the acceleratedRendering… and then, the problem only showed itself in the simulator and device… not in the IDE. So, I explored the two other INK options… Structural Blends and Imaging Blends. Two of the Structural Blends turn the image black… like I want… blendXor and blendDstOut But, the structural blends do *not* work when acceleratedRendering is set to true. The Imaging Blends do work with accelerated rendering set to true… But, none of them will turn the image black… or dark gray… these blends are influenced by the background color. Is it to be expected that acceleratedRendering will disable the Structural Blends? Or, is that a bug? be well, randy --- On Jul 21, 2012, at 10:12 PM, J. Landman Gay wrote: On 7/21/12 5:37 PM, Randy Hengst wrote: I've set the INK on the draggable images to clear when the image is first shown to the user… with accelerated rendering set to false, the image is black…. with accelerated rendering set to true, the image seems to be stuck in its original color... In other words, if I change the INK state to clear while accelerated rendering is true, nothing happens… but, the image changes when I set accelerated rendering to false… This, along with Klaus' NOOP problem, is probably because the old inks were deprecated as of LiveCode version 5.0. They are now unsupported and may or may not work. The ink entry in the dictionary lists the supported alternatives. -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | jac...@hyperactivesw.com HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: acceleratedrendering = true and ink = NOOP don't cooperate :-/
Randy: I don't have LiveCode in front of me but I'm pretty sure the docs list several of the ink limitations of acceleratedRendering there. Regards, Scott Rossi Creative Director Tactile Media, UX Design On Jul 21, 2012, at 9:06 PM, Randy Hengst iowahen...@mac.com wrote: Hi Jacque, Thanks for the scoop. That's good to know… To be honest, since they are still listed under the blend options, I didn't think about them being discontinued. As I mentioned, clear still turns the image black (like I want) in my original app … I didn't notice the problem until I added the acceleratedRendering… and then, the problem only showed itself in the simulator and device… not in the IDE. So, I explored the two other INK options… Structural Blends and Imaging Blends. Two of the Structural Blends turn the image black… like I want… blendXor and blendDstOut But, the structural blends do *not* work when acceleratedRendering is set to true. The Imaging Blends do work with accelerated rendering set to true… But, none of them will turn the image black… or dark gray… these blends are influenced by the background color. Is it to be expected that acceleratedRendering will disable the Structural Blends? Or, is that a bug? be well, randy --- On Jul 21, 2012, at 10:12 PM, J. Landman Gay wrote: On 7/21/12 5:37 PM, Randy Hengst wrote: I've set the INK on the draggable images to clear when the image is first shown to the user… with accelerated rendering set to false, the image is black…. with accelerated rendering set to true, the image seems to be stuck in its original color... In other words, if I change the INK state to clear while accelerated rendering is true, nothing happens… but, the image changes when I set accelerated rendering to false… This, along with Klaus' NOOP problem, is probably because the old inks were deprecated as of LiveCode version 5.0. They are now unsupported and may or may not work. The ink entry in the dictionary lists the supported alternatives. -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | jac...@hyperactivesw.com HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: acceleratedrendering = true and ink = NOOP don't cooperate :-/
On 7/21/12 11:34 PM, Scott Rossi wrote: I don't have LiveCode in front of me but I'm pretty sure the docs list several of the ink limitations of acceleratedRendering there. I just found it in the 5.02 release notes: Accelerated rendering comes with some restrictions: • Bitmap effects which use the multiply and color dodge blend modes will not work correctly on top-level objects. • Only 'blendSrcOver' and the image processing blend inks will work on top-level objects. • 'opengl' mode does not support any inks apart from blendSrcOver on top-level objects. • Using an ink other than 'blendSrcOver' on a top-level object will implicitly make it use 'dynamic' layerMode -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | jac...@hyperactivesw.com HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: acceleratedrendering = true and ink = NOOP don't cooperate :-/
On 7/21/12 11:06 PM, Randy Hengst wrote: The Imaging Blends do work with accelerated rendering set to true… But, none of them will turn the image black… or dark gray… these blends are influenced by the background color. Is it to be expected that acceleratedRendering will disable the Structural Blends? Or, is that a bug? I just posted the restrictions in another message, but yes, it looks like it's expected. You might have better luck using graphics effects and setting an opaque black color overlay. Or maybe Scott Rossi knows a better way to do it. -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | jac...@hyperactivesw.com HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: acceleratedrendering = true and ink = NOOP don't cooperate :-/
Those are them. Regards, Scott Rossi Creative Director Tactile Media, UX Design On Jul 21, 2012, at 10:01 PM, J. Landman Gay jac...@hyperactivesw.com wrote: On 7/21/12 11:34 PM, Scott Rossi wrote: I don't have LiveCode in front of me but I'm pretty sure the docs list several of the ink limitations of acceleratedRendering there. I just found it in the 5.02 release notes: Accelerated rendering comes with some restrictions: • Bitmap effects which use the multiply and color dodge blend modes will not work correctly on top-level objects. • Only 'blendSrcOver' and the image processing blend inks will work on top-level objects. • 'opengl' mode does not support any inks apart from blendSrcOver on top-level objects. • Using an ink other than 'blendSrcOver' on a top-level object will implicitly make it use 'dynamic' layerMode -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | jac...@hyperactivesw.com HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: acceleratedrendering = true and ink = NOOP don't cooperate :-/
The first question to Randy would be, why do you want to change the image to black? What's the end effect you're going for? Would something like the coloroverlay graphic effect be a workable option? Regards, Scott Rossi Creative Director Tactile Media, UX Design On Jul 21, 2012, at 10:06 PM, J. Landman Gay jac...@hyperactivesw.com wrote: On 7/21/12 11:06 PM, Randy Hengst wrote: The Imaging Blends do work with accelerated rendering set to true… But, none of them will turn the image black… or dark gray… these blends are influenced by the background color. Is it to be expected that acceleratedRendering will disable the Structural Blends? Or, is that a bug? I just posted the restrictions in another message, but yes, it looks like it's expected. You might have better luck using graphics effects and setting an opaque black color overlay. Or maybe Scott Rossi knows a better way to do it. -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | jac...@hyperactivesw.com HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Word count in Unicode
Word counting is a snap with Latin-ISO: on mouseUp put WordCount(fld 1) end mouseUp function WordCount pData repeat for each word tWord in pData add 1 to tCount[tWord] end repeat combine tCount with cr and tab set the itemdel to tab sort lines of tCount numeric descending by item 2 of each return tCount end WordCount How can I do the same for texts which may contain Unicode? -- Richard Gaskin Fourth World LiveCode training and consulting: http://www.fourthworld.com Webzine for LiveCode developers: http://www.LiveCodeJournal.com Follow me on Twitter: http://twitter.com/FourthWorldSys ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
