Re: Certain Images cause LC Freeze?

2012-07-30 Thread Richmond

On 07/30/2012 05:28 AM, webmas...@curiositi.com wrote:
Are file attachments allowed on this mailing list? I'm attempting to 
upload example stack as ZIPed file this time.


No, they are not. You must provide a url to where your attachments are 
stored.



--ForrestD


On Sun, 29 Jul 2012 21:22:10 -0500, webmas...@curiositi.com wrote:

Have others encountered this problem before?  I've found that loading
certain images into a LiveCode Image Area cause the program to become
unresponsive.  I have to force quit LiveCode and upon relaunch set
the filename of the image area to empty.  Otherwise, it will lock up
again.

Any ideas on why some images cause this lock-up, and others work just 
fine?


I am attaching an example stack.  Here is how to recreate: (in Run mode)

1)  Click the Load Image Area button.
2)  Click the Go Next button (or use keyboard shortcut)
3)  Click the Go Prev button (or use keyboard shortcut)
4)  Try to click anything... on the card or the tool palette --
nothing will work.

Interestingly, you can perform the same steps with the same image
loading into a Quicktime Player control and not get a LiveCode Freeze
to occur.


I am running LiveCode 5.0.2 on Mac OSX 10.6.8.


Has anyone seen this before?  Any ideas on how can I prevent this
freeze/lock-up from happening?

--Forrest Doddington



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Re: [ANN] EPS Import V05C

2012-07-30 Thread Alejandro Tejada
Hi Colin,


Colin Holgate-2 wrote
 
 Thanks for the extra details.
 I've done a lot of importing of AI files today. I find that fresh AI files
 that
 have new curves are producing stacks that are zero width and height,
 but copying the curves into an existing AI that has something in it will
 give me a file that works.
 
 I save as Illustrator 3 (3, not CS3), to try to make things easier.
 

Great! I am glad that this works for you. Please take a look at this feature
that I included in the stack penTool 0.32g:
http://andregarzia.on-rev.com/alejandro/stacks/penToolv032g.zip

Look at this image:
http://andregarzia.on-rev.com/alejandro/img/editImportedIlustratorFiles.JPG

When you import an Ilustrator file using the Import/Export palette of
PenTool 0.32g
the shapes are editable with the tools of PenTool and (this is the most
important)
you could Scale/Rotate/Reflect (flip)/Skew the grouped imported vectors
using the
Transformation Tools palette in penToolv032g.

But... There is no UNDO. I am sure that it should be easy to make
an UNDO function for this drawing application, but I have not been
able to create an UNDO that works reliable... :-((

Al




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backgroundPattern

2012-07-30 Thread Richmond

on preOpenCard
  set the backgroundpattern of this card to image id 1003
end preOpenCard

does NOT seem to work

I wonder why?

Richmond.

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Re: Preview of Resolution Independent Control library for RevMobile

2012-07-30 Thread Thomas McGrath III
My very first attempt was to include scalable images in my own custom groups 
and show the appropriate image on the right devices. But I experienced 
sluggishness in going from card to card and rotating interfaces. I did not 
delete the unused images once the device was know and that might have helped 
performance. So I dropped the approach to look for better ways.

In my first five or so apps I created the 'exact' layout and size of all of my 
custom controls in both their portrait and landscape modes on square cards and 
captured/stored that information pre-build. Then when launching on a device I 
loaded the appropriate set and its' landscape/portrait set. Two problems with 
that approach that I encountered: The first is that capturing 'all' properties 
is still not possible in the IDE in one simple command and the second is that 
any LC native controls will not draw at 2x size simply or reliably (You can 
fudge most properties but not all and I ended up creating custom versions of 
the native controls that I needed). Layout and size issues were also a problem 
when using native iOS controls with both custom and native LC controls with 
this approach.

This turned out to be a lot of work. So I decided to create substacks for each 
device/resolution combo - which is a lot less work in laying out controls but 
is more difficult in scripting. The native control issue is still there 
however. I managed a few apps this way and it was easier to get my mind around 
and for exact laying out of controls.

The last batch of apps I wrote (one of which I am showing at ISAAC here in 
Pittsburgh today) I decided to restrict the devices ti would run on and to 
create all custom controls and templates for those for pages in the app.

With the success of these last few apps I decided to build a set of custom 
templates for each and every type of 'view' that I tend to use in my apps and 
re-using them in all my future apps. This is a lot of upfront work but then 
when building an app I can just focus on the app itself and not the controls. 
But, this doesn't work for every situation and other methods are still needed.



-- Tom McGrath III
http://lazyriver.on-rev.com
3mcgr...@comcast.net

On Jul 29, 2012, at 7:13 PM, Monte Goulding wrote:

 I haven't said much in this discussion because it's all such a mess I don't 
 know where to start. But to be honest, I agree that scaling would be better 
 in general than sets of presized images, since as you say, they'd all need 
 scaling anyway on some devices.
 
 Good point. I'll try to clarify my thoughts and perhaps start a new thread 
 with a more appropriate subject.
 
 But if someone does want to implement separate image sets, I think it could 
 be done with what we have now, without needing an extra engine property. I 
 even started down that road on my current mobile project, but gave it up 
 because it was just too fiddly and unreliable.
 
 I agree. The simplest way to handle this would be a library function. I 
 rarely rely on the current directory being what it should be. I know I always 
 reset it to the original after changing it for whatever reason but relying on 
 everybody doing that seems a risk. I generally do something like the 
 following because it works in development and standalone:
 
 put the effective filename of this stack into tPath
 set the itemDel to /
 put images/myimage.jpg into item -1 of tPath
 
 Now it would be really easy to write a function that returned a full image 
 path given a relative path from the image folder. Assuming we know what 
 density range we are running at we could easily add in the extra folder. Then 
 what happens if the image isn't there. In java on android it searches up the 
 density ranges for an image to scale down. If it doesn't find one it searches 
 down for one to scale up. If we did that we would need to either scale the 
 image before returning the path or return it with a scale difference from the 
 environment. That all sounds complicated so it might be better to either not 
 support that or just go with the live scaling thing.
 
 Cheers
 
 --
 M E R Goulding 
 Software development services
 Bespoke application development for vertical markets
 
 mergExt - There's an external for that!
 
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Re: backgroundPattern

2012-07-30 Thread Mike Bonner
Is the image being used for the pattern a referenced image? If  so it
probably isn't there yet in preopencard.

On Mon, Jul 30, 2012 at 7:21 AM, Richmond richmondmathew...@gmail.comwrote:

 on preOpenCard
   set the backgroundpattern of this card to image id 1003
 end preOpenCard

 does NOT seem to work

 I wonder why?

 Richmond.

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Re: backgroundPattern

2012-07-30 Thread Klaus on-rev
Hi Richmond,

Am 30.07.2012 um 15:21 schrieb Richmond richmondmathew...@gmail.com:

 on preOpenCard
  set the backgroundpattern of this card to image id 1003
 end preOpenCard
 
 does NOT seem to work
 
 I wonder why?

maybe the official syntax will do:

on preOpenCard
 set the backgroundpattern of this card to 1003
end preOpenCard
? 

:-)

 Richmond.

Best

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Re: iOS - picking from a scrolling list

2012-07-30 Thread Thomas McGrath III
Howard,

I am running out right now so I won't be able to look deeper into this just 
yet. But remember that with that code there are two scrolls going on. One for 
use in the IDE and the other for use on the device. The IDE code is:set the 
vScroll of group InputScrollerGroup to pOffsetY  and the mobile code is:   
iphoneControlSet sScrollerId, vscroll, 0

If it is not going back to the top when coming back from another card then try 
adding both of them in an open card handler like this:

on openCard
  iphoneControlSet sScrollerId, vscroll, 0
   set the vScroll of group InputScrollerGroup to 0
end openCard

to tested but should work if the controls exist at that point.

I'll look at it later.

HTHs

-- Tom McGrath III
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On Jul 29, 2012, at 5:34 PM, Howard Bornstein wrote:

 Hi Tom,
 
 Thank you for this code. It has been very helpful in getting me going on
 using an IOS scroller. It works fine except for the following situation,
 which is baffling me at this point.
 
 If I implement a scroller with your code, everything works they way I would
 expect it to. However, if I scroll the list (say half-way down) and then
 leave the card, when I return back, the top of the scrollable field is not
 at the top of the scroller group (which I would expect because of this line
 of code:  set the top of field Counter to the top of group
 InputScrollerGroup) but is, in fact, half-way down the scroller group.
 Then, if I try to scroll the field up, it never gets to the bottom of the
 field, but instead bounces somewhere near the middle of the content. In
 other words, it looks like the entire field is offset down by some amount
 (probably a function of how much I had it scrolled before I left the card).
 
 I can't figure out why this would happen since the CloseCard handler
 deletes the IOS scroll group and OpenCard should create it fresh each time
 I go to the card. Somehow, the field position is getting stuck after I
 scroll it and then leave the card.
 
 Do you understand why this is happening?
 
 -- 
 Regards,
 
 Howard Bornstein
 ---
 www.designeq.com
 
 On Thu, Apr 5, 2012 at 6:44 AM, Thomas McGrath III mcgra...@mac.com wrote:
 
 Graham,
 
 I don't use mobgui but instead I use tmControl for layout of iOS elements.
 There are two types of scrolling lists possible in LC. The first is using
 mobilePick by itself or use an option button (that uses the iOS
 mobilePicker). The second is using either an LC field object or other
 objects like the list field in tmControl but either of these needs to be in
 a group and the group can now have an iOS scroller applied to it.
 
 If you create a field that is very long and group it then select the group
 and make it shorter than that field it will scroll. I can't remember if the
 group needs locked or not. There are a couple of glitches to watch out for.
 
 Here is parts of a script that controls a grouped field and an iOS
 scroller. A mouseUp in the field can return the desired line etc.
 
 local sScrollerId
 on scrollerDidScroll pOffsetX, pOffsetY
lock screen
set the hScroll of group InputScrollerGroup to pOffsetX
set the vScroll of group InputScrollerGroup to pOffsetY
unlock screen
 end scrollerDidScroll
 
 on openCard
set the layerMode of group InputScrollerGroup of this card to
 scrolling
 
set the unboundedHScroll of group InputScrollerGroup to true
set the unboundedVScroll of group InputScrollerGroup to true
 
 -- add items to a field Counter and have it grow to fit the contents
set the height of field Counter of this card to the formattedHeight
 of field Counter
set the top of field Counter to the top of group InputScrollerGroup
 
set the threeDHilite of field Lap Counter to false
iphoneControlCreate scroller, InputScroller
put the result into sScrollerId
put the rect of group InputScrollerGroup into tRect
iphoneControlSet sScrollerId, rect, tRect
put the formattedHeight of field Counter into tHeight
iphoneControlSet sScrollerId, contentRect, (0, 0, 0, tHeight)
iphoneControlSet sScrollerId, indicatorInsets, (0,0,6,0)
iphoneControlSet sScrollerId, visible, true
iphoneControlSet sScrollerId, canBounce, true
 
iphoneControlSet sScrollerId, declerationRate, fast
iphoneControlSet sScrollerId, scrollingEnabled, true
iphoneControlSet sScrollerId, canScrollToTop, true
iphoneControlSet sScrollerId, delayTouches, true
 
iphoneControlSet sScrollerId, vscroll, 0
set the vScroll of group InputScrollerGroup to 0
set the vScroll of field Counter to 0
 
focus on nothing
iphoneControlDo sScrollerId, flashScrollIndicators
 end openCard
 
 on closeCard
iphoneControlDelete InputScrollerGroup
 end closeCard
 
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 http://lazyriver.on-rev.com
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Re: backgroundPattern

2012-07-30 Thread Richmond

On 07/30/2012 04:25 PM, Mike Bonner wrote:

Is the image being used for the pattern a referenced image? If  so it
probably isn't there yet in preopencard.


Funnily enough, I thought I'd crack open that stack and change from 
preOpenCard to openCard,

when, blow-me-down, the thing worked

with your syntax Klaus:

on preOpenCard
   set the backgroundPattern of this card to 1003
end preOpenCard

so everybody is happy and can go skipping off down the yellow brick road 
(well, possibly).


Thanks for the suggestions and help.

Richmond.



On Mon, Jul 30, 2012 at 7:21 AM, Richmond richmondmathew...@gmail.comwrote:


on preOpenCard
   set the backgroundpattern of this card to image id 1003
end preOpenCard

does NOT seem to work

I wonder why?

Richmond.

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Re: Preview of Resolution Independent Control library for RevMobile

2012-07-30 Thread Alejandro Tejada
Hi all,

If I understand correctly this thread, the goal and purpose is to
create a library that recreate the correct interface in every
device where the application runs.

Ideally, every developer should have every device to test that
their application runs correctly. Obviously, that it's not possible
because every week there are new devices in the market.
And old devices still run for years.

How could you create the correct interface for a device where
you have not tested your application?
 
Al



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Re: Is it really this hard to print currency values?

2012-07-30 Thread dunbarx
Hi.


You have replies, and can see that the task is one of parsing characters into a 
useful form.


This is a function I wrote in HC a long time ago to relieve the tedious task of 
writing out the text of a number when issuing checks. It should be instructive, 
as it sort of acts in the same way. You call it as:  
digitToWord(yourNumericalValue):



function digitToWord theDigits
  put One,Two,Three,Four,Five,Six,Seven,Eight,Nine into ones
  put Ten,Eleven,Twelve,Thirteen,Fourteen,Fifteen,Sixteen,Seventeen,¬
   Eighteen,Nineteen into teens
  put ,Twenty,Thirty,Forty,Fifty,Sixty,Seventy,Eighty,Ninety into tens
  set numberformat to #.00
  get offset(.,theDigits)
  if it ‚ 0 then
put  Dollars and  char it + 1 to it + 2 of theDigits  /100 into
temp
delete char it to it + 2 of theDigits
  end if
  
  get number(chars of theDigits)
  if char it - 1 of theDigits = 1 then put item char it of theDigits + 1 of
teens before temp
  else
put item char it of theDigits of ones before temp
put item char it - 1 of theDigits of tens  space before temp
  end if
  
  if it „ 3 then put item char it - 2 of theDigits of ones  Hundred 
space before temp
  if it = 4 then put item char it - 3 of theDigits of ones  Thousand 
space before temp
  if it = 5 then put item char it - 4 of theDigits of tens  Thousand 
space before temp
  if it = 6 then
put item char 1 of theDigits of ones  Hundred  item char 2 of
theDigits of tens  item char 3 of theDigits of ones   Thousand  before
temptemp
  end if
  
  return temp
end digitToWord



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From: dunbarx dunb...@aol.com
To: use-livecode use-livecode@lists.runrev.com
Sent: Sun, Jul 29, 2012 12:30 pm
Subject: Re: Is it really this hard to print currency values?


Hi.


I wrote a checkWriting stack in HC about 25 years ago. No modulo, just text 
parsing. It is compact and utterly basic. If nobody else replies in the next 
day, I will pull it from my office and send you the code. It is just chunk 
engineering. Fun stuff.


Craig Newman



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From: Dr. Hawkins doch...@gmail.com
To: How to use LiveCode use-livecode@lists.runrev.com
Sent: Sun, Jul 29, 2012 12:09 pm
Subject: Is it really this hard to print currency values?


As I sat down to finally encode currency into my output, I pulled old
answers from older questions and did more searches.

Is it *really* this hard to output currency?

To turn 123456.78 into $123,456.78, everything I'm finding would have
me using modulo arithmetic to produce three values, with these three
values being output in the string (4, actually, to allow values in the
millions).

Am I missing something obvious here?
-- 
The Hawkins Law Firm
Richard E. Hawkins, Esq.
(702) 508-8462
hawkinslawf...@gmail.com
3025 S. Maryland Parkway
Suite A
Las Vegas, NV  89109

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Re: Is it really this hard to print currency values?

2012-07-30 Thread dunbarx




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From: dunbarx dunb...@aol.com
To: use-livecode use-livecode@lists.runrev.com
Sent: Mon, Jul 30, 2012 11:23 am
Subject: Re: Is it really this hard to print currency values?


Hi.


Typo in the last line

function digitToWord theDigits
  put One,Two,Three,Four,Five,Six,Seven,Eight,Nine into ones
  put Ten,Eleven,Twelve,Thirteen,Fourteen,Fifteen,Sixteen,Seventeen,¬
   Eighteen,Nineteen into teens
  put ,Twenty,Thirty,Forty,Fifty,Sixty,Seventy,Eighty,Ninety into tens
  set numberformat to #.00
  get offset(.,theDigits)
  if it ‚ 0 then
put  Dollars and  char it + 1 to it + 2 of theDigits  /100 into
temp
delete char it to it + 2 of theDigits
  end if
  
  get number(chars of theDigits)
  if char it - 1 of theDigits = 1 then put item char it of theDigits + 1 of
teens before temp
  else
put item char it of theDigits of ones before temp
put item char it - 1 of theDigits of tens  space before temp
  end if
  
  if it „ 3 then put item char it - 2 of theDigits of ones  Hundred 
space before temp
  if it = 4 then put item char it - 3 of theDigits of ones  Thousand 
space before temp
  if it = 5 then put item char it - 4 of theDigits of tens  Thousand 
space before temp
  if it = 6 then
put item char 1 of theDigits of ones  Hundred  item char 2 of
theDigits of tens  item char 3 of theDigits of ones   Thousand  before
temp
  end if
  
  return temp
end digitToWord



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From: dunbarx dunb...@aol.com
To: use-livecode use-livecode@lists.runrev.com
Sent: Sun, Jul 29, 2012 12:30 pm
Subject: Re: Is it really this hard to print currency values?


Hi.


I wrote a checkWriting stack in HC about 25 years ago. No modulo, just text 
parsing. It is compact and utterly basic. If nobody else replies in the next 
day, I will pull it from my office and send you the code. It is just chunk 
engineering. Fun stuff.


Craig Newman



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From: Dr. Hawkins doch...@gmail.com
To: How to use LiveCode use-livecode@lists.runrev.com
Sent: Sun, Jul 29, 2012 12:09 pm
Subject: Is it really this hard to print currency values?


As I sat down to finally encode currency into my output, I pulled old
answers from older questions and did more searches.

Is it *really* this hard to output currency?

To turn 123456.78 into $123,456.78, everything I'm finding would have
me using modulo arithmetic to produce three values, with these three
values being output in the string (4, actually, to allow values in the
millions).

Am I missing something obvious here?
-- 
The Hawkins Law Firm
Richard E. Hawkins, Esq.
(702) 508-8462
hawkinslawf...@gmail.com
3025 S. Maryland Parkway
Suite A
Las Vegas, NV  89109

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peed off with P Lists

2012-07-30 Thread Richmond

Everytime I run off a mac standalone I have to edit the Info.plist inside
the application bundle so that the folk at MacUpdate don't send me 
'abusive' messages.


I wonder why the standalone builder doesn't cope with this automatically?

Richmond.

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Re: Standalones not opening in Mountain Lion

2012-07-30 Thread Bob Sneidar
Nope. There were rumors that someone got it working in Lion, but it was some 
kind of spoof as I recall. 

Bob


On Jul 28, 2012, at 2:19 AM, Bernard Devlin wrote:

 I seem to remember that Rosetta is still available.  It is just not
 installed by default.  I think the installation medium should have a way of
 installing Rosetta.
 
 Bernard


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Re: [OT] Windows 8

2012-07-30 Thread Bob Sneidar
Microsoft takes a cut, up to 30%, of every sale made through this store. 

Whoa!! How much does Apple get? 

Bob


On Jul 28, 2012, at 12:43 PM, Richmond wrote:

 http://www.bbc.com/news/technology-18996377
 
 well worth a read, and makes one think whether Apple's and Microsoft's 
 protectionism might not be self-defeating in the end.
 
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Re: Preview of Resolution Independent Control library for RevMobile

2012-07-30 Thread Scott Rossi
In addition to the recent discussion, the hope would be to create a
responsive interface layout: one that adapts to different screen
dimensions/proportions.  A good analogy is responsive web design
(http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Responsive_design), where the layout changes
based on size thresholds.

Between client work and talking about the issue with list members, one
option for thresholds I had proposed is the following:

320x480
480x800
540x960
768x1024
800x1280

Once the dimensions of a device exceed one of the above thresholds, the
layout changes to the next threshold, which could involve simple size
adjustments, or proportional scaling.  But detecting screen dimensions is
not enough -- screen resolution throws a wrench into all of this.  Hopefully
between discussion on the list and developments on the RunRev side, we can
figure out a solution.

Regards,

Scott Rossi
Creative Director
Tactile Media, UX Design



Recently, Alejandro Tejada wrote:

 Hi all,
 
 If I understand correctly this thread, the goal and purpose is to
 create a library that recreate the correct interface in every
 device where the application runs.
 
 Ideally, every developer should have every device to test that
 their application runs correctly. Obviously, that it's not possible
 because every week there are new devices in the market.
 And old devices still run for years.
 
 How could you create the correct interface for a device where
 you have not tested your application?
  
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When moving from desktop to mobile - size matters!

2012-07-30 Thread Dave Kilroy
I have been knocking my head against this problem for a while (and just solved 
it) and thought that others might be interested...

In a little desktop standalone I made use of a tweaked version of Obello's 
excellent custom slider - which worked great. I was then asked to try doing a 
mobile version, which was fine except when I was testing the app on an iPhone 4 
the 'thumb' graphic part of the slider would not slide unless I gave it an 
initial 'stab' to get it moving.

Eventually the answer dawned on me that perhaps the 'thumb' was too small for 
my fat fingers so I tried doubling it's size to 44x44 and it worked very nice 
without need for any initial 'stab'.

So, the 'thumb' graphic at 22x22 worked fine with a mouse or even with a finger 
on the simulator, but not on an iPhone's screen - (forum entry here with full 
details http://forums.runrev.com/viewtopic.php?f=27t=12459p=59515#p59515).

I think Apple's HIG recommends 40x40 pixels, but a 'thumb' at that size looks a 
bit silly, have any of you used 30x30 pixel controls and got through Apple's 
acceptance process?

Kind regards

Dave
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Re: standalone building and externals as inclusions

2012-07-30 Thread Bob Sneidar
I'm going to guess that it puts the external into the same folder as the 
mainStack. And I do not know what you mean by one object per external or one 
for all. I imagine each external is it's own file. 

One way to tell would be to add a couple of externals, compile a standalone, 
then look to see where LC put them. That is what I would do anyway. 

Bob


On Jul 29, 2012, at 11:25 AM, Dar Scott wrote:

 How does the standalone builder integrate externals into a standalone? 
 
 In particular, where does it insert them in the path?
 
 And does it use one object per external or one for all?  
 
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Re: A small love gift.

2012-07-30 Thread Bob Sneidar
EEEK!!!

On Jul 29, 2012, at 11:09 AM, Mark Wieder wrote:

 rotfl. I would never ever launch an unknown file that came in an email
 that said launch me an see what happens...
 
 er... 5.5.5? Is 6.6.6 next?


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Re: Using mobileRestorePurchases

2012-07-30 Thread Björnke von Gierke
I think your question is just extremely specific. It's quite possible that 
you're the only one actually trying this out...


On 23.07.2012, at 22:56, Dan Friedman wrote:

 I posted this question about a week ago and got no answers.  So, I thought I 
 would try asking one more time before sending this one up to the Mother Ship.
 
 How do you use the mobileRestorePurchases command to restore in-app purchases?
 
 I successfully purchased an in-app purchase with the test iTunes account on 
 the simulator.  I put the mobileRestorePurchases command in an openStack 
 handler and it did fire... I was prompted for my test iTunes password.  But, 
 then nothing happened.  What should happen?  I figured that a 
 purchaseStateUpdate would have been sent to the stack where 
 mobilePurchaseState(pPurchaseID) that was restored – but it wasn't.
 
 Furthermore, if I attempt to purchase the in-app purchase again, I am told 
 that I have already purchased it and would I like to download it again.  When 
 I tap yes, I get an error that I can't connect to the iTunes store.
 
 ANY help or guidance would be GREATLY appreciated!
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Re: A small love gift.

2012-07-30 Thread Bob Sneidar
Okay, THAT is Richmond for sure!

On Jul 29, 2012, at 11:24 AM, Richmond wrote:

 Richmond FYI
  launching your stack made the tool palette disappear forever until
 Livecode (5.5.5) is restarted.
 
 Encouraging . . . NOT
 
 authored in 4.5 with nary a problem.
 
 This may say something about 5.5.5. !
 
 The trouble about being at the cutting edge is that one can run out of 
 sticking plasters.


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Re: Does this work for you?

2012-07-30 Thread Björnke von Gierke
I'm not using Mobile, but judging from the android pdf, it kinda looks as if 
it's not possible: You can't actually put something into a ftp url, you can 
only _get_ ftp urls.

Also see the Android Release Note, page 16 (accessible from the help menu in 
the IDE)


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 Can you write to a server, via ftp on a real Android device running Android 
 version 4.0.4.  When I try it, it returns no error, but doesn't write to the 
 server.  Can you confirm?
 
 Thanks,
 Dan
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Re: ANN: PowerDebug 1.1.8

2012-07-30 Thread Bob Sneidar
Mark, you fricking rock! 

Bob


On Jul 29, 2012, at 9:29 PM, Mark Wieder wrote:

 Hi-
 
 It appears that some of my new version emails have been ending up in
 spam folders, so I'll make this a more general announcement.
 
 Following up on a thread on the use-list this last week about trace
 mode no longer being in the IDE's debugger, I realized that trace mode
 had stopped working in PowerDebug. So it's back now in version 1.1.8.
 And PowerDebug is now backward compatible at least to LiveCode version
 4.5.3. Maybe further, but that hasn't been tested.
 
 If registered users need your registration code again for any reason,
 drop me a line.
 
 There's a trace delay field that sets the number of milliseconds
 between trace steps. Set it to zero for maximum speed.
 
 There's a code coverage tool, of a sort:
  Place a breakpoint early in the code
  Set the trace delay to 0 for best results
  When the debugger starts, click Trace
(Escape stops trace mode)
  After tracing, select the Code Coverage tab
This will show you what lines of code have been executed.
And maybe more importantly, what lines haven't.


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Re: Is it really this hard to print currency values?

2012-07-30 Thread Bob Sneidar
Crazy huh? I think there should be a function that extracts the numerical value 
of a string. Even better, the engine should simply assume a properly formatted 
currency is a number and deal with it. 

My 2¢

Bob


On Jul 29, 2012, at 9:05 AM, Dr. Hawkins wrote:

 As I sat down to finally encode currency into my output, I pulled old
 answers from older questions and did more searches.
 
 Is it *really* this hard to output currency?
 
 To turn 123456.78 into $123,456.78, everything I'm finding would have
 me using modulo arithmetic to produce three values, with these three
 values being output in the string (4, actually, to allow values in the
 millions).
 
 Am I missing something obvious here?
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Re: Is it really this hard to print currency values?

2012-07-30 Thread Bob Sneidar
Huh. I did the exact same thing in an old Hypercard stack that is now long gone 
so I cannot back that up! 

Bob


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 Hi.
 
 
 I wrote a checkWriting stack in HC about 25 years ago. No modulo, just text 
 parsing. It is compact and utterly basic. If nobody else replies in the next 
 day, I will pull it from my office and send you the code. It is just chunk 
 engineering. Fun stuff.
 
 
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Re: Can't PASTE into fields

2012-07-30 Thread Björnke von Gierke
I think if you have any menubar, wether there is a menu edit or not, you will 
not be able to use copy/paste at all, unless you have code added to your stack 
that the field can use. If you have a menubar, there are some situations where 
the IDE's menubar will be used, and some where yours will be used.

Basically the IDE has scripts for copy paste behaviour, so when you use your 
own menu, or have a standalone with no copy/paste code from you, then it won't 
copy/paste at all.

even shorter: automatic copy/paste handling does not exist.

On 30.07.2012, at 04:28, Mark Rauterkus wrote:

 Hi,
 
 Still puzzled by this
 
 On stack I've created, a simple card database of campers, I can type
 into the text fields. But I can't PASTE into them.
 
 In other stacks and substacks, paste works.
 
 Can't figure out why.
 
 
 Then help came from RLG with Q:
 
 Is this in the IDE or in a standalone? Is there an edit menu with a
 paste command available? It sounds like nothing is trapping the keystroke.
 
 - reply 
 
 This is in both the IDE and the standalone.
 There was an edit menu -- but then I nuked it. Still broken.
 In the substacks of the same project, the paste and cut and copy work
 fine with the keyboard shortcuts as one would expect.
 
 When I put a new field onto any card in that stack, the same broken
 behaviors happens.
 
 For example, a student has the same phone number for cell phone and
 emergency contact. I'd love to be able to select the phone # from the
 one field, copy it, and paste it into the other field. But it won't
 work.
 
 Or, seeking to select a student's name from one card. Double click
 works to highlight the names, as expected. Then go to another card and
 paste the name into a sibling field. No paste occurs.
 
 I can type in a phone number 444-222-. Then select it with click
 and drag. Then hit the backspace key and it is deleted.


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Re: Is it really this hard to print currency values?

2012-07-30 Thread Bob Sneidar
Hah! Spiceworks, a free asset management solution, put out an email that when 
viewed on an iPhone read, How to barcode your ass... 

:-)

Bob


On Jul 29, 2012, at 10:53 AM, Mark Wieder wrote:

 Richmond-
 
 Sunday, July 29, 2012, 10:43:49 AM, you wrote:
 
 Something a bit wrong with column widths on my Thunderbird e-mail client
 over here:
 
 My column widths seem to truncate my email send column such that my
 emails from Shakespeare's Associates theater troupe results in my
 receiving emails from Shakespeare's Ass...
 
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Re: peed off with P Lists

2012-07-30 Thread Bob Sneidar
I'll bite. What is the issue with the default Info.plist format and how do you 
have to edit it? Do you mean it is non existent? 

Bob


On Jul 30, 2012, at 8:59 AM, Richmond wrote:

 Everytime I run off a mac standalone I have to edit the Info.plist inside
 the application bundle so that the folk at MacUpdate don't send me 'abusive' 
 messages.
 
 I wonder why the standalone builder doesn't cope with this automatically?
 
 Richmond.
 
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Re: Upgrade to Mountain Lion and LiveCode 5.5.1 Problem

2012-07-30 Thread Roger Guay
Final report from Twitland:

Usually, the first thing I do whenever I have computer problems is to restart 
my Mac. Apparently, I failed to do that since I started this thread days ago. 

Last evening I tried to empty my thrash and, lo and behold, I found stuff still 
running which I could not quit and consequently could not dump. So, I shut down 
my computer. This morning I restarted my computer, emptied the thrash and found 
all my problems with the iOS simulator solved!

My apologies especially to Colin who paid a lot of attention to my yammerings. 
I'm going to go hide for a while...

Cheers,
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Re: Preview of Resolution Independent Control library for RevMobile

2012-07-30 Thread Bob Sneidar
Seems like the whole pixel coordinate system achilles heel is showing. Better 
would be a percentage system, so that theoretically I can set the topleft of a 
control to a percentage of the hv of the card. 

This really should be an engine change, but I suppose a library could be 
developed for this purpose. I'll have to think about it. Off the top of my 
head, it would seem to me to be better to start with the smallest res supported 
as the baseline layout, then scale up. 

Bob


On Jul 28, 2012, at 1:49 PM, Monte Goulding wrote:

 For layout to play nicely with scaling it will need to place controls 
 relative to each other and window boundaries and not include any reference to 
 physical pixels without multiplying by a scaling factor. So if you want a 
 field to have 3 px padding from the edge of the card you need to use 3 * 
 scale. So I think unfortunately the layout lib would need to be dependent on 
 the scaling lib. It could just be a single global variable though.
 
 Cheers
 
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 mergExt - There's an external for that!
 
 On 29/07/2012, at 5:23 AM, Thomas McGrath III mcgra...@mac.com wrote:
 
 I agree and would go as far as saying that these must remain separate 
 libraries.They should play well together.
 
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Re: Upgrade to Mountain Lion and LiveCode 5.5.1 Problem

2012-07-30 Thread John Brozycki
Roger,

Just to confirm, I've upgraded to Mountain Lion on a lat 2008 15 MBP, have 
LiveCode 5.5.1 running, and Xcode 4.4 (4F250) and my iOS simulator is running 
OK.  As your iOS simulator hangs by itself, it doesn't seem that the problem is 
Live Code related.  If you have a spare USB drive, you might want to install 
Mountain Lion, LC, and Xcode on it, boot from it, and see if the problem 
persists.  If not, then it's a call to Apple or a fresh install.

BTW- I did have to re-point Live Code preferences to find where Xcode was 
located.

Good luck,
John Brozycki

On Jul 30, 2012, at 12:10 AM, Roger Guay i...@mac.com wrote:

 Sorry folks i forgot the Subject line.
 
 On Jul 29, 2012, at 7:08 PM, Jim Lambert wrote:
 
 This MIGHT help.
 
 In Xcode go to Preference  Downloads and download the 5.0 Simulator.
 
 Thanks, Jim. I did that early on and it made no difference. My situation 
 remains the same: my iOS simulator hangs in every situation.
 
 I still wonder if others on this list have upgraded to Mountain Lion, Xcode 
 4.4 and Livecode 5.5.1 and have had no problems?? Actually, I've tried going 
 back to LiveCode 5.5.0 which did work under Lion, and it now fails as well! 
 So I think my problem has nothing to do with LiveCode.
 
 Thanks,
 Roger
 
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Re: Is it really this hard to print currency values?

2012-07-30 Thread Dr. Hawkins
On Mon, Jul 30, 2012 at 10:41 AM, Bob Sneidar b...@twft.com wrote:
 Hah! Spiceworks, a free asset management solution, put out an email that
when viewed on an iPhone read, How to barcode your ass...

When one of my undergraduate professors was promoted  tenured, he
noted that this would change his title from Ast. Prof. to Ass.
Prof.

At least it would be a full professor that taught ANAL MECH
(analytic mechanics).  Yes, that's really how it appears on my
transcript!


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Re: standalone building and externals as inclusions

2012-07-30 Thread J. Landman Gay

On 7/29/12 1:25 PM, Dar Scott wrote:

How does the standalone builder integrate externals into a standalone?


It creates a folder named Externals in the same folder as the 
engine/mainstack. On Mac, that's inside the bundle. On Windows it's next 
to the standalone.


However, there is (was?) a bug where the external files themselves 
didn't actually get copied. You have to move them there yourself after 
the build.




In particular, where does it insert them in the path?


Into the back, I believe.



And does it use one object per external or one for all?


I'm not sure what this means. The externals are available in the file 
directory and your scripts load them into RAM. They aren't attached to 
any stacks per se, though you can use the externals property of a stack 
to tell the engine to automatically load them.



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Re: Preview of Resolution Independent Control library for RevMobile

2012-07-30 Thread Peter Haworth
I have to admit that my brain gets very dizzy when thinking about
resolutions/pixels/etc so please excuse if this question doesn't make sense

I believe we are now looking at resolutions and screen sizes much larger
that has been discussed so far.  LG have just come out with 47 and 55
full 1080p HD TV with Google TV built into it.  You can run any of the
Andorid apps on it.  I guess this situation has been around for a while
with the separate Google TV set top box.

Does that affect any of the solutions being discussed?

Pete
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On Mon, Jul 30, 2012 at 10:14 AM, Scott Rossi sc...@tactilemedia.comwrote:

 In addition to the recent discussion, the hope would be to create a
 responsive interface layout: one that adapts to different screen
 dimensions/proportions.  A good analogy is responsive web design
 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Responsive_design), where the layout changes
 based on size thresholds.

 Between client work and talking about the issue with list members, one
 option for thresholds I had proposed is the following:

 320x480
 480x800
 540x960
 768x1024
 800x1280

 Once the dimensions of a device exceed one of the above thresholds, the
 layout changes to the next threshold, which could involve simple size
 adjustments, or proportional scaling.  But detecting screen dimensions is
 not enough -- screen resolution throws a wrench into all of this.
  Hopefully
 between discussion on the list and developments on the RunRev side, we can
 figure out a solution.

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Re: New standards organization created

2012-07-30 Thread Bob Sneidar
Har! I had a saying once, Every organization agrees that we must adopt 
standards... their own!

Bob


On Jul 30, 2012, at 11:11 AM, Mark Wieder wrote:

 We can't continue like this. We're running out of short acronyms for 
 standards
 organizations...
 
 http://humorix.org/10920


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Performance issues with setting the image source

2012-07-30 Thread Peter Haworth
I have a scrolling list field which I'm populating with lines of text and
also setting the imagesource of up 5 chars.  It turns out that it takes an
average of about one tenth of a second per line to set the imagesources, so
to populate the field with 100 lines takes 10 seconds.

These images become hotspots for the user to click on and I would like to
stick with that as a user interface if possible but the length of time it's
taking is obviously not acceptable.

I'm wondering if anyone has any suggestions as to how improve the
performance or perhaps another technique to show image hotspots in a line
of text.

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Re: Performance issues with setting the image source

2012-07-30 Thread Bob Sneidar
Hmmm... locking screen and locking messages? 

Bob


On Jul 30, 2012, at 11:38 AM, Peter Haworth wrote:

 I have a scrolling list field which I'm populating with lines of text and
 also setting the imagesource of up 5 chars.  It turns out that it takes an
 average of about one tenth of a second per line to set the imagesources, so
 to populate the field with 100 lines takes 10 seconds.
 
 These images become hotspots for the user to click on and I would like to
 stick with that as a user interface if possible but the length of time it's
 taking is obviously not acceptable.
 
 I'm wondering if anyone has any suggestions as to how improve the
 performance or perhaps another technique to show image hotspots in a line
 of text.
 
 Pete
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does openField works on mobile?

2012-07-30 Thread Andre Garzia
Hey folks,

I have some code to intercept the openfield message and prevent the mobile
keyboard from launching. It is not working. Anyone had similar experience?

Cheers
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Re: does openField works on mobile?

2012-07-30 Thread Andre Garzia
yes it works guys... I had a typo on focus on nothing

On Mon, Jul 30, 2012 at 4:22 PM, Andre Garzia an...@andregarzia.com wrote:

 Hey folks,

 I have some code to intercept the openfield message and prevent the mobile
 keyboard from launching. It is not working. Anyone had similar experience?

 Cheers
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Re: Performance issues with setting the image source

2012-07-30 Thread Colin Holgate
Not sure if this will apply to what you're doing, but when doing painting with 
image data things are a lot faster with this line:

set the paintCompression to RLE


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Re: Performance issues with setting the image source

2012-07-30 Thread Mark Schonewille
Hi Pete,

Are you using a repeat loop? Don't do that. Instead, take the htmlText, replace 
a character with the appropriate html (have a look at the htmlText after 
setting an imageSource to find out the correct HTML code) and set the htmlText 
of the field to the modified data.

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On 30 jul 2012, at 20:38, Peter Haworth wrote:

 I have a scrolling list field which I'm populating with lines of text and
 also setting the imagesource of up 5 chars.  It turns out that it takes an
 average of about one tenth of a second per line to set the imagesources, so
 to populate the field with 100 lines takes 10 seconds.
 
 These images become hotspots for the user to click on and I would like to
 stick with that as a user interface if possible but the length of time it's
 taking is obviously not acceptable.
 
 I'm wondering if anyone has any suggestions as to how improve the
 performance or perhaps another technique to show image hotspots in a line
 of text.
 
 Pete
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Re: [OT] Windows 8

2012-07-30 Thread Richmond

On 07/30/2012 08:08 PM, Bob Sneidar wrote:

Microsoft takes a cut, up to 30%, of every sale made through this store.

Whoa!! How much does Apple get?


Probably much the same.


Bob


On Jul 28, 2012, at 12:43 PM, Richmond wrote:


http://www.bbc.com/news/technology-18996377

well worth a read, and makes one think whether Apple's and Microsoft's 
protectionism might not be self-defeating in the end.

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Re: Performance issues with setting the image source

2012-07-30 Thread Peter Haworth
Thanks Colin.  I don't think this applies to my situation since I'm setting
the image source to existing images, not creating them on the fly.  But
it's yet another property I didn't know about so thanks for that.
Pete
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 Not sure if this will apply to what you're doing, but when doing painting
 with image data things are a lot faster with this line:

 set the paintCompression to RLE


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Re: peed off with P Lists

2012-07-30 Thread Richmond

Dear Bob and Mark, et al,

RR/LC does supply Info.plist files in its Mac standalone app packages.

As I work with LC 4.5 here is an extract from the Info.plist from 
version 1.0.2.4 of my Devawriter Pro build for Mac PPC:


stringDevawriter Pro/string
keyCFBundleIdentifier/key
stringcom..dwpro/string
keyCFBundleGetInfoString/key
string1/string
keyCFBundleIconFile/key
stringStandalone.icns/string
keyCFBundleInfoDictionaryVersion/key
string6.0/string
keyCFBundleLongVersionString/key
string1.0.2.4/string
keyCFBundleName/key
stringDevawriter Pro/string
keyCFBundlePackageType/key
stringAPPL/string
keyCFBundleShortVersionString/key
string1/string
keyCFBundleSignature/key
string/string
keyCFBundleVersion/key
string4.5.0.1030 (dp-4)/string

The MacUpdate people object to the last line, and I have to change 
4.5.0.1030 (dp-4) to whatever

the version number of my standalone is (in this case 1.0.2.4).

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Re: [OT] Windows 8

2012-07-30 Thread Mike Kerner
Apple gets 30%, too.  They invented that model with the iOS AppStore.


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Re: Performance issues with setting the image source

2012-07-30 Thread Peter Haworth
Hi Mark,
I use a repeat loop to put the text of each line into the field.  Once it's
there, I set the image source of of the appropiate chars of the line.

I have to have a repeat loop but if I'm understanding you correctly, you're
recommending:

- put the text of each line into a variable within the loop
- at the end of the loop, insert the appropriate html into each line of the
variable
- set the htmltext of the field to the variable

Do I have that right?

Pete
lcSQL Software http://www.lcsql.com



On Mon, Jul 30, 2012 at 12:39 PM, Mark Schonewille 
m.schonewi...@economy-x-talk.com wrote:

 Hi Pete,

 Are you using a repeat loop? Don't do that. Instead, take the htmlText,
 replace a character with the appropriate html (have a look at the htmlText
 after setting an imageSource to find out the correct HTML code) and set the
 htmlText of the field to the modified data.

 --
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 On 30 jul 2012, at 20:38, Peter Haworth wrote:

  I have a scrolling list field which I'm populating with lines of text and
  also setting the imagesource of up 5 chars.  It turns out that it takes
 an
  average of about one tenth of a second per line to set the imagesources,
 so
  to populate the field with 100 lines takes 10 seconds.
 
  These images become hotspots for the user to click on and I would like to
  stick with that as a user interface if possible but the length of time
 it's
  taking is obviously not acceptable.
 
  I'm wondering if anyone has any suggestions as to how improve the
  performance or perhaps another technique to show image hotspots in a line
  of text.
 
  Pete
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Re: Performance issues with setting the image source

2012-07-30 Thread Peter Haworth
I think I'm locking screen but will check.
Pete
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On Mon, Jul 30, 2012 at 11:41 AM, Bob Sneidar b...@twft.com wrote:

 Hmmm... locking screen and locking messages?

 Bob


 On Jul 30, 2012, at 11:38 AM, Peter Haworth wrote:

  I have a scrolling list field which I'm populating with lines of text and
  also setting the imagesource of up 5 chars.  It turns out that it takes
 an
  average of about one tenth of a second per line to set the imagesources,
 so
  to populate the field with 100 lines takes 10 seconds.
 
  These images become hotspots for the user to click on and I would like to
  stick with that as a user interface if possible but the length of time
 it's
  taking is obviously not acceptable.
 
  I'm wondering if anyone has any suggestions as to how improve the
  performance or perhaps another technique to show image hotspots in a line
  of text.
 
  Pete
  lcSQL Software http://www.lcsql.com


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Re: peed off with P Lists

2012-07-30 Thread Bob Sneidar
Aha! I see. I wonder how many people would support a post processor section of 
the standalone builder, where we could run a script or something. Then you 
could write a simple script to replace it automagically with the 
CFBundleLongString key. At any rate, you could easily write such a thing. 

Bob


On Jul 30, 2012, at 12:56 PM, Richmond wrote:

 Dear Bob and Mark, et al,
 
 RR/LC does supply Info.plist files in its Mac standalone app packages.
 
 As I work with LC 4.5 here is an extract from the Info.plist from version 
 1.0.2.4 of my Devawriter Pro build for Mac PPC:
 
 stringDevawriter Pro/string
keyCFBundleIdentifier/key
 stringcom..dwpro/string
keyCFBundleGetInfoString/key
 string1/string
keyCFBundleIconFile/key
stringStandalone.icns/string
keyCFBundleInfoDictionaryVersion/key
string6.0/string
keyCFBundleLongVersionString/key
 string1.0.2.4/string
keyCFBundleName/key
 stringDevawriter Pro/string
keyCFBundlePackageType/key
stringAPPL/string
keyCFBundleShortVersionString/key
 string1/string
keyCFBundleSignature/key
 string/string
keyCFBundleVersion/key
string4.5.0.1030 (dp-4)/string
 
 The MacUpdate people object to the last line, and I have to change 4.5.0.1030 
 (dp-4) to whatever
 the version number of my standalone is (in this case 1.0.2.4).
 
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Re: [OT] Windows 8

2012-07-30 Thread Bob Sneidar
No I mean with their regular app store, for desktops. 

Bob


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Re: Certain Images cause LC Freeze?

2012-07-30 Thread webmaster

Alejandro and Phil,

This is very curious.  I'm not sure why it works for you but fails 
every time for me.  Could you let me know if you are running LiveCode 
5.0.2 or something different for an IDE version?


Thank you so much for testing.  The support of the LC community is 
great!


--ForrestD


On Sun, 29 Jul 2012 21:03:33 -0700, Phil Davis wrote:

Hi Forrest,
It works fine here.

Phil Davis


On 7/29/12 7:42 PM, webmas...@curiositi.com wrote:
Sorry for the extra posts.  Since I can't upload, here is a URL to 
download the example stack.

http://www.curiositi.com/filestoshare/ImageCauseFreeze.zip

Could some of you please download and tell me if you can recreate 
the error.  Any ideas for preventing this error?


--ForrestD


On Sun, 29 Jul 2012 21:28:27 -0500, webmas...@curiositi.com wrote:
Are file attachments allowed on this mailing list?  I'm attempting 
to

upload example stack as ZIPed file this time.
--ForrestD


On Sun, 29 Jul 2012 21:22:10 -0500, webmas...@curiositi.com wrote:
Have others encountered this problem before?  I've found that 
loading
certain images into a LiveCode Image Area cause the program to 
become
unresponsive.  I have to force quit LiveCode and upon relaunch 
set
the filename of the image area to empty.  Otherwise, it will lock 
up

again.

Any ideas on why some images cause this lock-up, and others work 
just fine?


I am attaching an example stack.  Here is how to recreate: (in Run 
mode)


1)  Click the Load Image Area button.
2)  Click the Go Next button (or use keyboard shortcut)
3)  Click the Go Prev button (or use keyboard shortcut)
4)  Try to click anything... on the card or the tool palette --
nothing will work.

Interestingly, you can perform the same steps with the same image
loading into a Quicktime Player control and not get a LiveCode 
Freeze

to occur.


I am running LiveCode 5.0.2 on Mac OSX 10.6.8.


Has anyone seen this before?  Any ideas on how can I prevent this
freeze/lock-up from happening?

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Re: peed off with P Lists

2012-07-30 Thread Mark Schonewille
Richmond,

Did you enter a version number in the OSX panel of the standalone settings?

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On 30 jul 2012, at 21:56, Richmond wrote:

 Dear and Mark, et al,
 
 RR/LC does supply Info.plist files in its Mac standalone app packages.
 
 As I work with LC 4.5 here is an extract from the Info.plist from version 
 1.0.2.4 of my Devawriter Pro build for Mac PPC:
 
 stringDevawriter Pro/string
keyCFBundleIdentifier/key
 stringcom..dwpro/string
keyCFBundleGetInfoString/key
 string1/string
keyCFBundleIconFile/key
stringStandalone.icns/string
keyCFBundleInfoDictionaryVersion/key
string6.0/string
keyCFBundleLongVersionString/key
 string1.0.2.4/string
keyCFBundleName/key
 stringDevawriter Pro/string
keyCFBundlePackageType/key
stringAPPL/string
keyCFBundleShortVersionString/key
 string1/string
keyCFBundleSignature/key
 string/string
keyCFBundleVersion/key
string4.5.0.1030 (dp-4)/string
 
 The MacUpdate people object to the last line, and I have to change 4.5.0.1030 
 (dp-4) to whatever
 the version number of my standalone is (in this case 1.0.2.4).


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Re: peed off with P Lists

2012-07-30 Thread Peter Haworth
There's a standaloneSaved message that you can use for that purpose.
Pete
lcSQL Software http://www.lcsql.com



On Mon, Jul 30, 2012 at 1:37 PM, Bob Sneidar b...@twft.com wrote:

 Aha! I see. I wonder how many people would support a post processor
 section of the standalone builder, where we could run a script or
 something. Then you could write a simple script to replace it automagically
 with the CFBundleLongString key. At any rate, you could easily write such a
 thing.

 Bob


 On Jul 30, 2012, at 12:56 PM, Richmond wrote:

  Dear Bob and Mark, et al,
 
  RR/LC does supply Info.plist files in its Mac standalone app packages.
 
  As I work with LC 4.5 here is an extract from the Info.plist from
 version 1.0.2.4 of my Devawriter Pro build for Mac PPC:
 
  stringDevawriter Pro/string
 keyCFBundleIdentifier/key
  stringcom..dwpro/string
 keyCFBundleGetInfoString/key
  string1/string
 keyCFBundleIconFile/key
 stringStandalone.icns/string
 keyCFBundleInfoDictionaryVersion/key
 string6.0/string
 keyCFBundleLongVersionString/key
  string1.0.2.4/string
 keyCFBundleName/key
  stringDevawriter Pro/string
 keyCFBundlePackageType/key
 stringAPPL/string
 keyCFBundleShortVersionString/key
  string1/string
 keyCFBundleSignature/key
  string/string
 keyCFBundleVersion/key
 string4.5.0.1030 (dp-4)/string
 
  The MacUpdate people object to the last line, and I have to change
 4.5.0.1030 (dp-4) to whatever
  the version number of my standalone is (in this case 1.0.2.4).
 
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Re: Preview of Resolution Independent Control library for RevMobile

2012-07-30 Thread Alejandro Tejada
LG 55'' 1080p HD TV with Google TV resolution: 1920 x 1080p
LG 47'' 1080p HD TV with Google TV resolution: 1920 x 1080p
http://www.lg.com/us/tvs/lg-55G2-led-tv
http://www.lg.com/us/tvs/lg-47G2-led-tv

Then, adding this resolution to Scott Rossi's list,
there are 6 (or more) different resolution targets:

320x480
480x800
540x960
768x1024
800x1280
1920 x 1080



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Re: Preview of Resolution Independent Control library for RevMobile

2012-07-30 Thread Monte Goulding
I've been toying with the concept of loading the mainstack of a stackFile 
depending on if it's in the mobile or tablet category. The concept could be 
expanded to have as many size ranges and you want. If these ranges were able to 
be set by the dev then it would be quite flexible and allow anything from one 
UI stackFile for all ranges to very specific single size UI stackfiles for 
obscure devices that you want to support.

The problem I see is you need to push as much code as possible out into 
libraries. I work that way but most livecoders don't. Once you develop for one 
device though you could just save as and adapt the stack for another device.

Cheers

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Software development services

mergExt - There's an external for that!

On 31/07/2012, at 3:14 AM, Scott Rossi sc...@tactilemedia.com wrote:

 In addition to the recent discussion, the hope would be to create a
 responsive interface layout: one that adapts to different screen
 dimensions/proportions.

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QuickTime on Windows

2012-07-30 Thread J. Landman Gay
Does anyone know why a player object won't load an aiff file in a 
standalone? It works fine in the IDE. The sound file does exist and the 
filename for the player is correct.


Windows XP
LiveCode 5.5.1

Did the default setting for dontUseQT change?

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Re: Preview of Resolution Independent Control library for RevMobile

2012-07-30 Thread Bob Sneidar
One of the problems with this approach is that virtual machines typically have 
adjustable resolutions that can be anything. If you were running an LC app 
within one of these, there would be no way to determine the actual monitor 
resolution. 

Bob


On Jul 30, 2012, at 2:17 PM, Alejandro Tejada wrote:

 LG 55'' 1080p HD TV with Google TV resolution: 1920 x 1080p
 LG 47'' 1080p HD TV with Google TV resolution: 1920 x 1080p
 http://www.lg.com/us/tvs/lg-55G2-led-tv
 http://www.lg.com/us/tvs/lg-47G2-led-tv
 
 Then, adding this resolution to Scott Rossi's list,
 there are 6 (or more) different resolution targets:
 
 320x480
 480x800
 540x960
 768x1024
 800x1280
 1920 x 1080
 
 
 
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Re: Android URLEncode libUrlDownloadToFile

2012-07-30 Thread Nicolas Cueto
Thanks, Alex.

A question...

 and write a simple LC script to check for ID / PWD  -

I understand how to write the script, but not how to phrase the
results of the if conditional. What commands would the LC script
execute if the pwd/id are correct, so as to let the jpg file on the
server be downloaded by the stack?

Sorry.

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No Code Signature Found

2012-07-30 Thread Ueliweb
Hei

thanks for your tipp.

In my case it looks not working.
All certificates are valid  checked it in the keycain, in xCode and
Apples Dev Website.
A view days before I built the same app with the same settings in both
of the same version of LC 5.5.1 and  xCode 4.3.3
 gives me a Code Signature - but now all new iOS Standalone have no
more Code Signature.

Has anyone similar symptoms?
Some suggestion?

Ueliweb




2011/11/28 Mike Kerner mikeker...@roadrunner.com:
 Never mind, I found a solution on the Forums (weird - I searched but...)
 Anyway, for those that read this in the future, go into your Keychain
 (Applications-Utilities-Keychain Access).  In the Certificates, find and
 delete any expired development certificates, rebuild in LC and reinstall
 using XCode.

 On Sun, Nov 27, 2011 at 22:58, Mike Kerner mikeker...@roadrunner.comwrote:

 Hmm.
 My iOS app made it through the simulator, the standalone builder, and I
 have the certificates generated.

 Now I'm trying to use xCode to send it across to a real device for real
 testing and XCode gives me No Code Signature Found.

 Suggestions?

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Re: QuickTime on Windows

2012-07-30 Thread Scott Rossi
Hi Jacque:

Is QuickTime is installed or not?

You say the system is XP -- way, way back, issues sometimes cropped up with
players and filepaths.  I would imagine these were probably fixed by now,
but FWIW, here are two notes I had saved as possible workarounds:

-- use an absolute file reference with file
set fileName of player 1 to \
  file:///volumes/primary/users/name/really_long_filename_here.mp3

-- swap out space characters with html
replace space with %20 in tURL

Can't say these will help but they're simple so maybe worth a try.

Regards,

Scott Rossi
Creative Director
Tactile Media, UX Design



Recently, Jacque Landman Gay wrote:

 Does anyone know why a player object won't load an aiff file in a
 standalone? It works fine in the IDE. The sound file does exist and the
 filename for the player is correct.
 
 Windows XP
 LiveCode 5.5.1
 
 Did the default setting for dontUseQT change?





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Re: QuickTime on Windows

2012-07-30 Thread J. Landman Gay
Thanks Scott. I just this second figured it out. I didn't give enough 
info for you to know what was wrong.


QT is installed and I'm using long file paths, and it all works in the 
IDE. But -- here's what I left out -- I was running the standalone in 
Parallels from the network drive (i.e., the folder on my Mac.) All the 
play audioclip commands worked fine but players with sound files 
assigned didn't. Apparently QT doesn't like to load sound files from a 
virtually mounted drive. When I copied the sounds folder to the XP VM it 
started working.


The question is though, how come QT was happy to load the file when it 
was running in the IDE? Weird. Doesn't matter I guess, the standalone 
will always be on the same drive with the app. But I like to know these 
things.


Thanks again.

On 7/30/12 5:45 PM, Scott Rossi wrote:

Hi Jacque:

Is QuickTime is installed or not?

You say the system is XP -- way, way back, issues sometimes cropped up with
players and filepaths.  I would imagine these were probably fixed by now,
but FWIW, here are two notes I had saved as possible workarounds:

-- use an absolute file reference with file
set fileName of player 1 to \
   file:///volumes/primary/users/name/really_long_filename_here.mp3

-- swap out space characters with html
replace space with %20 in tURL

Can't say these will help but they're simple so maybe worth a try.

Regards,

Scott Rossi
Creative Director
Tactile Media, UX Design



Recently, Jacque Landman Gay wrote:


Does anyone know why a player object won't load an aiff file in a
standalone? It works fine in the IDE. The sound file does exist and the
filename for the player is correct.

Windows XP
LiveCode 5.5.1

Did the default setting for dontUseQT change?






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Re: QuickTime on Windows

2012-07-30 Thread Bob Sneidar
The VM should use a drive letter to map it. Were you using the mapped drive to 
access it? 

Bob


On Jul 30, 2012, at 4:10 PM, J. Landman Gay wrote:

 Thanks Scott. I just this second figured it out. I didn't give enough info 
 for you to know what was wrong.
 
 QT is installed and I'm using long file paths, and it all works in the IDE. 
 But -- here's what I left out -- I was running the standalone in Parallels 
 from the network drive (i.e., the folder on my Mac.) All the play 
 audioclip commands worked fine but players with sound files assigned didn't. 
 Apparently QT doesn't like to load sound files from a virtually mounted 
 drive. When I copied the sounds folder to the XP VM it started working.
 
 The question is though, how come QT was happy to load the file when it was 
 running in the IDE? Weird. Doesn't matter I guess, the standalone will always 
 be on the same drive with the app. But I like to know these things.
 
 Thanks again.


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Re: QuickTime on Windows

2012-07-30 Thread J. Landman Gay

On 7/30/12 6:20 PM, Bob Sneidar wrote:

The VM should use a drive letter to map it. Were you using the mapped
drive to access it?


I was creating a relative file path based on the file path of the main 
stack. In Parallels the shared drive is mapped to Z but the filename 
of the stack comes in as pfd://home/yadda/yadda. (I think it's pfd, 
I've shut down Parallels now, but it was something odd like that.)


The script checks for the existence of the audio file and if it's there, 
it loads a player. There is a file 'pfd://home/yadda' returns true. 
When it gets passed off to QT it fails.


The exact same script and filepath works in the IDE though. Maybe the 
IDE is passing the mapped letter to QT for us.


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Re: Certain Images cause LC Freeze?

2012-07-30 Thread Alejandro Tejada
Hi ForrestD,


webmaster wrote
 
 Alejandro and Phil,
 This is very curious.  I'm not sure why it works for you but fails 
 every time for me.  Could you let me know if you are running LiveCode 
 5.0.2 or something different for an IDE version?
 Thank you so much for testing.  The support of the LC community is 
 great!
 

I tested your stack in RunRev version 2.8 and RevMedia version 4
in Windows XP with Quicktime Alternative installed.




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Re: QuickTime on Windows

2012-07-30 Thread Bob Sneidar
I believe it's psd for Parallels Shared Drive. If it's important to you, you 
might try using the mapped drive path. The IDE probably knows how to translate 
while a standalone might not. Just guessing there though. 

Bob


On Jul 30, 2012, at 4:34 PM, J. Landman Gay wrote:

 On 7/30/12 6:20 PM, Bob Sneidar wrote:
 The VM should use a drive letter to map it. Were you using the mapped
 drive to access it?
 
 I was creating a relative file path based on the file path of the main stack. 
 In Parallels the shared drive is mapped to Z but the filename of the 
 stack comes in as pfd://home/yadda/yadda. (I think it's pfd, I've shut 
 down Parallels now, but it was something odd like that.)
 
 The script checks for the existence of the audio file and if it's there, it 
 loads a player. There is a file 'pfd://home/yadda' returns true. When it 
 gets passed off to QT it fails.
 
 The exact same script and filepath works in the IDE though. Maybe the IDE is 
 passing the mapped letter to QT for us.
 
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Re: No Code Signature Found

2012-07-30 Thread Randy Hengst
Hello Ueliweb,

The only time that has happened to me is when I've forgotten to select a 
Profile in the Standalone Settings or made the wrong selection.

be well,
randy
-
On Jul 30, 2012, at 5:43 PM, Ueliweb wrote:

 Hei
 
 thanks for your tipp.
 
 In my case it looks not working.
 All certificates are valid  checked it in the keycain, in xCode and
 Apples Dev Website.
 A view days before I built the same app with the same settings in both
 of the same version of LC 5.5.1 and  xCode 4.3.3
 gives me a Code Signature - but now all new iOS Standalone have no
 more Code Signature.
 
 Has anyone similar symptoms?
 Some suggestion?
 
 Ueliweb
 
 
 
 
 2011/11/28 Mike Kerner mikeker...@roadrunner.com:
 Never mind, I found a solution on the Forums (weird - I searched but...)
 Anyway, for those that read this in the future, go into your Keychain
 (Applications-Utilities-Keychain Access).  In the Certificates, find and
 delete any expired development certificates, rebuild in LC and reinstall
 using XCode.
 
 On Sun, Nov 27, 2011 at 22:58, Mike Kerner mikeker...@roadrunner.comwrote:
 
 Hmm.
 My iOS app made it through the simulator, the standalone builder, and I
 have the certificates generated.
 
 Now I'm trying to use xCode to send it across to a real device for real
 testing and XCode gives me No Code Signature Found.
 
 Suggestions?
 
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Re: QuickTime on Windows

2012-07-30 Thread J. Landman Gay

On 7/30/12 6:51 PM, Bob Sneidar wrote:

I believe it's psd for Parallels Shared Drive. If it's important to
you, you might try using the mapped drive path. The IDE probably
knows how to translate while a standalone might not. Just guessing
there though.


Yeah, psd sounds right. I think your diagnosis is probably right. I 
don't need to do the mapping for the final standalone, but I'm glad to 
know why it didn't work.


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Re: Certain Images cause LC Freeze?

2012-07-30 Thread Phil Davis
I'm using 5.0.1 on a Mac (Lion 10.7.4). I also made your stack into a 
standalone using 5.0.1 and it still worked as expected.


The LC community is amazing - I completely agree.

OK, I opened it in LC 5.0.2 by dragging the stack onto the unopened 
app's icon. Startup never quite completed - the LC splash screen 
remained visible, the Window menu lists the menubar as being edited, 
and nothing worked.


I tried the same thing with 5.0.1 and your stack started up fine and was 
functional.


Phil



On 7/30/12 1:40 PM, webmas...@curiositi.com wrote:

Alejandro and Phil,

This is very curious.  I'm not sure why it works for you but fails 
every time for me.  Could you let me know if you are running LiveCode 
5.0.2 or something different for an IDE version?


Thank you so much for testing.  The support of the LC community is great!

--ForrestD


On Sun, 29 Jul 2012 21:03:33 -0700, Phil Davis wrote:

Hi Forrest,
It works fine here.

Phil Davis


On 7/29/12 7:42 PM, webmas...@curiositi.com wrote:
Sorry for the extra posts.  Since I can't upload, here is a URL to 
download the example stack.

http://www.curiositi.com/filestoshare/ImageCauseFreeze.zip

Could some of you please download and tell me if you can recreate 
the error.  Any ideas for preventing this error?


--ForrestD


On Sun, 29 Jul 2012 21:28:27 -0500, webmas...@curiositi.com wrote:

Are file attachments allowed on this mailing list?  I'm attempting to
upload example stack as ZIPed file this time.
--ForrestD


On Sun, 29 Jul 2012 21:22:10 -0500, webmas...@curiositi.com wrote:

Have others encountered this problem before?  I've found that loading
certain images into a LiveCode Image Area cause the program to become
unresponsive.  I have to force quit LiveCode and upon relaunch set
the filename of the image area to empty.  Otherwise, it will lock up
again.

Any ideas on why some images cause this lock-up, and others work 
just fine?


I am attaching an example stack.  Here is how to recreate: (in Run 
mode)


1)  Click the Load Image Area button.
2)  Click the Go Next button (or use keyboard shortcut)
3)  Click the Go Prev button (or use keyboard shortcut)
4)  Try to click anything... on the card or the tool palette --
nothing will work.

Interestingly, you can perform the same steps with the same image
loading into a Quicktime Player control and not get a LiveCode Freeze
to occur.


I am running LiveCode 5.0.2 on Mac OSX 10.6.8.


Has anyone seen this before?  Any ideas on how can I prevent this
freeze/lock-up from happening?

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LiveCode iOS Externals rreNarrator

2012-07-30 Thread Brian Duck
Hello World!

I'm not certain earlier my postings made the list.

I was able to join the RunRev Live conference via the virtual conference option.

By way of background, I'd developed in HyperCard to develop an Interactive 
Video-Disc application controlled via the Mac, way back in 1990's while 
pursuing a Master's in Educational Technology at SDSU. I came across revolution 
a few years ago, and worked with it intermittently while at Ford Motor Company. 
More recently I've developed in Adobe Flex from 1.5 through 4.5; but I've 
recently jumped back to RunRev, I'm also setup with OnRev hosting.

As for my project, I've got a working draft of a planned iPad app: it's working 
as a Macintosh application, I've tested in the iOS simulator, and I've been 
able to publish a few revisions directly to my iPad under a personal developer 
account.

 There are a couple issues that I'm bringing to the list:
1) I have a group with a scrolling field, and three buttons shared 
throughout a stack to appear as a common background. 

This functions fine in the Mac App version, but loaded on the iPad there is ONE 
card that appears to function, but the text is not visible. I've removed the 
group from this card, and replaced it but I have the same effect with loaded to 
the iPad.

Thoughts on how to track this down?

2) As I mentioned, the speech synthesis is working on the desktop edition, but 
I need a bit of a kickstart for using the rreNarrator on the iPad. (I've 
located the source for the text-to-speech using 'flite,' the CMU speech 
synthesis project). First, it's barely mentioned on the SDK document, and I've 
attempted working through the example, to no avail.

The video shows part of the process, but stops short of testing a working 
project, or showing details on integrating the external with actual LiveCode 
examples. The video focuses on creating a new Xcode project for the external, 
but I've got a working draft and I don't see how to install the external into a 
functional project.

I'm not meaning to criticize, as I'm grateful to find that an external, the 
documentation, and samples are available, but I'm in need of a bit of guidance 
to get started with the text to speech external.

If those of you with experience in the rreNarrator / or general externals use, 
would provide some further direction on list or directly, I'd be thankful. If 
you have a link to an article on integrating externals with LiveCode stacks, 
I'd like to see it.

Brian Duck,
The DuckWorks
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Re: [OT] Windows 8

2012-07-30 Thread Dr. Hawkins
On Monday, July 30, 2012, Mike Kerner wrote:

 Apple gets 30%, too.  They invented that model with the iOS AppStore.


hitch is why I'm not even considering  selling my program through them.

a dollar to sell a three dollar program hurts, but when you sell lots of
them . . .

A third of a thousand dollar program, which costs the same buck or tho to
distribute . . . .


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Re: [OT] Windows 8

2012-07-30 Thread Colin Holgate
You make more sets of $700 than you would make through other distributors.


On Jul 31, 2012, at 12:06 AM, Dr. Hawkins doch...@gmail.com wrote:

 A third of a thousand dollar program, which costs the same buck or tho to
 distribute . . . .

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Re: Preview of Resolution Independent Control library for RevMobile

2012-07-30 Thread Monte Goulding

Could we be thinking about this the wrong way? Could we have a standalone build 
time process that took our stack file and created a ldpi,mdpi,hdpi and xhdpi 
version? Then a loader stack that loaded the right one...

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Re: QuickTime on Windows

2012-07-30 Thread Jeff Reynolds
Jacqueline,

I've been bit by this in the distant past and got in the habit of having the 
app determine the desired path so that it does not matter if running in the IDE 
or a standalone. I cant remember what the difference I ran into that made me 
start this.

Cheers, 

Jeff

Sent from my iPad

On Jul 31, 2012, at 12:06 AM, use-livecode-requ...@lists.runrev.com wrote:

 Subject: Re: QuickTime on Windows
 Message-ID: 50173c0a.2050...@hyperactivesw.com
 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
 
 On 7/30/12 6:51 PM, Bob Sneidar wrote:
 I believe it's psd for Parallels Shared Drive. If it's important to
 you, you might try using the mapped drive path. The IDE probably
 knows how to translate while a standalone might not. Just guessing
 there though.
 
 Yeah, psd sounds right. I think your diagnosis is probably right. I 
 don't need to do the mapping for the final standalone, but I'm glad to 
 know why it didn't work.


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Re: No Code Signature Found

2012-07-30 Thread Ueliweb
Thanks Randy

I  doesen't change any setting.
But I make a check anyway its the same.
And when I try with other profils/ certificates it does not change.

Its at the moment every LC Project that I built again has the same Problem.
It looks that the Problem is not in the .livecode Project itself.
In the iPhone Simulator the Projects works well like before (but at
this point no certificates are needed)

Ueli



2012/7/31 Randy Hengst iowahen...@mac.com:
 Hello Ueliweb,

 The only time that has happened to me is when I've forgotten to select a 
 Profile in the Standalone Settings or made the wrong selection.

 be well,
 randy
 -
 On Jul 30, 2012, at 5:43 PM, Ueliweb wrote:

 Hei

 thanks for your tipp.

 In my case it looks not working.
 All certificates are valid  checked it in the keycain, in xCode and
 Apples Dev Website.
 A view days before I built the same app with the same settings in both
 of the same version of LC 5.5.1 and  xCode 4.3.3
 gives me a Code Signature - but now all new iOS Standalone have no
 more Code Signature.

 Has anyone similar symptoms?
 Some suggestion?

 Ueliweb




 2011/11/28 Mike Kerner mikeker...@roadrunner.com:
 Never mind, I found a solution on the Forums (weird - I searched but...)
 Anyway, for those that read this in the future, go into your Keychain
 (Applications-Utilities-Keychain Access).  In the Certificates, find and
 delete any expired development certificates, rebuild in LC and reinstall
 using XCode.

 On Sun, Nov 27, 2011 at 22:58, Mike Kerner mikeker...@roadrunner.comwrote:

 Hmm.
 My iOS app made it through the simulator, the standalone builder, and I
 have the certificates generated.

 Now I'm trying to use xCode to send it across to a real device for real
 testing and XCode gives me No Code Signature Found.

 Suggestions?

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My Journey... Resolution Independent Control library.

2012-07-30 Thread Ralph DiMola
I got LC 1 year ago for no other use than mobile. Very quickly I saw the LC
light and am using it as a replacement for VB6, but I digress.

When the multiple resolutions and rotation reality hit me.
I first tried just to resize and re-position controls by a factor calculated
from resizestack message (newWidth,newHeight,oldWidth,oldHeight). This of
course introduced precision errors. This was very easy to see in the IDE by
just grabbing a corner and changing the size of a card. This worked for a
customer mobile demo with 1 resize and no rotation enabled.

Then I dropped all app development and started writing a Resolution
Independent Control library. If I had the LC knowledge at the time to
implement a UI like the one that Chip and Ken previewed I would have done
it. Very impressive guys!!! And I may be using yours in the future.

But alas I went a different direction.

As Bob points out below a percent type approach was what I went with.

I had these requirements:

1 card per screen
1 set of images, but the ability to use multiple images if needed for
exceptions.
All resolutions and aspect ratios.
Ability to change control layout (or not) based on screen orientation,
resolution or aspect ratio
Align controls with pixel precision.
Easy initial layout.
Not only resize the control but the text as well.
Resize text by best fit, scaling best fit, percent of IDE size, scaling
percent of IDE size.
Aspect ratio locking by X or Y.
Vertical centering of text.
Work for both mobile and desktop
Be a library stack
Images are of sufficient quality to be scaled.

Handle controls
Images
Single line text Fields
Multi line text fields
Buttons
Button labels
Button icons with zoom in/out
Menu and tabbed controls. With the same text resizing options
Groups
Stamping controls in a group n across by z down
Stamping of any collection of controls n across by z down


 It is implemented with call(s) to my library from a switch statement
structure cased by card name in the preopencard and resizestack handlers in
the stack script.  Each call places 1 or more controls on a card. There are
several calls per card as you could imagine. Calls are a bit clunky but
quite fast once I got used to it. The calls have some advantages also. This
makes different layouts defined by orientation/resolution/stack aspect
ratios easy, just a switch statement away. A controls position/size is
defined by a percent to each side of the bounding box. The rect of the
bounding box is the edge of the card or the inside/outside edges of other
controls. This makes putting controls inside other controls easy. Seeing
that this is just a bunch of calls, the initial layout of a card is just
spit balling. The actual positions won't happen until the calls are tested
from the message box or by grabbing the corner of the card and changing the
size and watch everything click into position. This way if you set a control
to align 10% from the left, then all controls with a 10% left margin from
the same edge will align perfectly. Edges have infinite length. If you have
radio buttons then all the options will be spaced out evenly (or not).

We all seem to be doing a lot of work for something that could have been
handled in the engine. It would be nice if the mother ship could tell us
physical size of the device even if it was just phone/tablet/TV.

I'm happy with my solution for now. It works and I never care about new
resolutions. New resolutions to me are just a. so you don't say.

I am now changing PlaceControls from calls to a custom Property Set to keep
the cards layout with the card and have no coding in the stack. I can then
handle the preopencard and resizestack messages from the library stack.

What a year!

Ralph DiMola
IT Director
Evergreen Information Services
rdim...@evergreeninfo.net

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[mailto:use-livecode-boun...@lists.runrev.com] On Behalf Of Bob Sneidar
Sent: Monday, July 30, 2012 1:54 PM
To: How to use LiveCode
Subject: Re: Preview of Resolution Independent Control library for RevMobile

Seems like the whole pixel coordinate system achilles heel is showing.
Better would be a percentage system, so that theoretically I can set the
topleft of a control to a percentage of the hv of the card. 

This really should be an engine change, but I suppose a library could be
developed for this purpose. I'll have to think about it. Off the top of my
head, it would seem to me to be better to start with the smallest res
supported as the baseline layout, then scale up. 

Bob


On Jul 28, 2012, at 1:49 PM, Monte Goulding wrote:

 For layout to play nicely with scaling it will need to place controls
relative to each other and window boundaries and not include any reference
to physical pixels without multiplying by a scaling factor. So if you want a
field to have 3 px padding from the edge of the card you need to use 3 *
scale. So I think unfortunately the layout lib would need to be 

Re: peed off with P Lists

2012-07-30 Thread Richmond

On 07/30/2012 11:47 PM, Mark Schonewille wrote:

Richmond,

Did you enter a version number in the OSX panel of the standalone settings?


Yes: 1.0.2.4



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On 30 jul 2012, at 21:56, Richmond wrote:


Dear and Mark, et al,

RR/LC does supply Info.plist files in its Mac standalone app packages.

As I work with LC 4.5 here is an extract from the Info.plist from version 
1.0.2.4 of my Devawriter Pro build for Mac PPC:

stringDevawriter Pro/string
keyCFBundleIdentifier/key
stringcom..dwpro/string
keyCFBundleGetInfoString/key
string1/string
keyCFBundleIconFile/key
stringStandalone.icns/string
keyCFBundleInfoDictionaryVersion/key
string6.0/string
keyCFBundleLongVersionString/key
string1.0.2.4/string
keyCFBundleName/key
stringDevawriter Pro/string
keyCFBundlePackageType/key
stringAPPL/string
keyCFBundleShortVersionString/key
string1/string
keyCFBundleSignature/key
string/string
keyCFBundleVersion/key
string4.5.0.1030 (dp-4)/string

The MacUpdate people object to the last line, and I have to change 4.5.0.1030 
(dp-4) to whatever
the version number of my standalone is (in this case 1.0.2.4).


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