text file import & charsets - whats wrong

2013-02-12 Thread Ueliweb 
Hei


today I have 2 questions:


 At the moment I was importing some Data from a tab delimited text file.
I use on Mac: TextWrangler and on Windows: Notepad++Portable  a
'PortableApps'.


First Question:
*
the text imported by manually by copying from a text editor I got that
contend in the variable 'theTabText'  with this code:
ask question "Copy the tab-Text here:"
put it into theTabText

ID token Long_DE Semester_ID Semester_token Teacher_ID Teacher_token
1 11A 11A_12/13-2 2 12/13-2 2 HER
2 11B 11B_12/13-2 2 12/13-2 ???


if I import the same file with this code:
put URL ("file:" & tPath) into theTabText

˛ˇ I D  t o k e n  L o n g _ D E  S e m e s t e r _ I D  S e m e s t e r _
t o k e n  T e a c h e r _ I D  T e a c h e r _ t o k e n
 1  1 1 A  1 1 A _ 1 2 / 1 3 - 2  2  1 2 / 1 3 - 2  2  H E R
 2  1 1 B  1 1 B _ 1 2 / 1 3 - 2  2  1 2 / 1 3 - 2   ? ? ?
 3  1 1 A  1 1 A _ 1 2 / 1 3 - 1  1  1 2 / 1 3 - 1  2  H E R

I am confusing about the "˛ˇ" before the text starts and that every
character is seperated by a space ???
Using the text file of an other table both ways of importing I get the same
output into the variable 'theTabText'


Second Question:


If I import the same source file on Windows or an Mac then the 'umlauts'
(äöü ...) are replaced by some unreadable symbols.
I know that this has also to do with charset used by the text file.
But it is al the same about I use "Western (Windows latin 1)",  "Western
(MacOS roman)", "Western (ISO Latin 1)" or even UTF-8.

As I learned LiveCode internal uses UTF-16 format.
And I know about the unicode properties of LiveCode and the macToISO and
ISOToMac functions.
But I could not figure out where and how to use/set this to get text files
correct written to and read from the files.
It Locks to work if I use URLencode/decode as also arrayEncode/Decode but
there are not human readable.

And most important I need to import text data generated of oder programs
where we not get access direct to databases and I need to send date to
external programs like word,excel,pages,numbers,openOffice for the users.

At the moment the best solution is to copy text from the text editors with
" ask question"on the system I am working on. So no matter witch format the
text has there always right formatted after import.
But if take a copy of the stack to an other platform the 'umlauts' are
mixed up and I need every time to reimport the data.
As I am working in developing environment its OK but on real running it is
not suitable data exchange, reading and writing must work properly.

Is there any possibility to get the source encoding/charset of a text
file? And select then the right way to import.
Witch format I should I use to export that all platforms and mentioned
programs canuse it correctly?
How I can set/control the encoding/charset by writing to a file

I hope some one can lead me on the right way

thanks
ueliweb
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Re: convert (scrape) website to PDF

2013-02-12 Thread Chipp Walters 
Hi Pierre! How are you?

Yes, I do remember HTML2DOC. Thanks for reminding me! I actually used it in
Hemingway to create PDFs from websites. Good solution. Thanks!

Chipp Walters
CEO, Altuit, Inc.


On Tue, Feb 12, 2013 at 9:11 PM, Pierre Sahores wrote:

> Hej Chipp,
>
> HTMLDoc is sometimes very useful in about such tasks.
>
> http://www.htmldoc.org/
>
> Best,
>
> Pierre
>
> Le 13 févr. 2013 à 04:04, Chipp Walters a écrit :
>
> > Anyone have any experience creating a PDF from content on a website?
> >
> > I'd like to convert: http://gls.agilix.com/js/docs/#!/Overview
> >
> > It has frames and links and seems quite difficult and was wondering if
> > anyone has had experience in creating a stack which can custom scrape a
> > website?
> >
> > TIA
> >
> > Chipp Walters
> > SVP, General Manager, IdeaWorks
> >
> > 512.577.9258 cell
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Re: convert (scrape) website to PDF

2013-02-12 Thread Pierre Sahores 
Hej Chipp,

HTMLDoc is sometimes very useful in about such tasks.

http://www.htmldoc.org/

Best,

Pierre

Le 13 févr. 2013 à 04:04, Chipp Walters a écrit :

> Anyone have any experience creating a PDF from content on a website?
> 
> I'd like to convert: http://gls.agilix.com/js/docs/#!/Overview
> 
> It has frames and links and seems quite difficult and was wondering if
> anyone has had experience in creating a stack which can custom scrape a
> website?
> 
> TIA
> 
> Chipp Walters
> SVP, General Manager, IdeaWorks
> 
> 512.577.9258 cell
> ch...@agilixideaworks.com
> skype: chippwalters
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convert (scrape) website to PDF

2013-02-12 Thread Chipp Walters 
Anyone have any experience creating a PDF from content on a website?

I'd like to convert: http://gls.agilix.com/js/docs/#!/Overview

It has frames and links and seems quite difficult and was wondering if
anyone has had experience in creating a stack which can custom scrape a
website?

TIA

Chipp Walters
SVP, General Manager, IdeaWorks

512.577.9258 cell
ch...@agilixideaworks.com
skype: chippwalters

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Re: LiveCode has a new eye on the earth

2013-02-12 Thread Geoff Canyon 
The key phrase here is (paraphrased): "We load 3000 to 4000 commands into
the spacecraft daily. It's vital that we check every single command to
ensure it will execute properly and without harming any part of the
spacecraft. This check is always done under a short deadline, and it used
to take three people two hours to perform. LoadChecker automates the whole
process for a greater degree of reliability, and completes the check in
just five seconds."

So NASA trusts the safety of a satellite to a program written in LiveCode.
Pretty is one thing, the safety of satellites is another level.


On Tue, Feb 12, 2013 at 5:08 PM, Peter M. Brigham  wrote:

> On Feb 12, 2013, at 5:31 PM, Mark Wieder wrote:
>
> > I don't care about the webpage. Halfway down there's a screenshot of the
> > LiveCode UI command panel. That's the part I'm complaining about. Yes, I
> do get
> > your point about this being an impressive system, but the part that
> shows what
> > LC looks like in action isn't likely to generate any positive interest.
>
> I might for those who come in thinking that LC is all about eye candy and
> can't do any serious lifting. It would probably take less than 2 days for
> any one of three dozen denizens of this list to re-tool their GUI to make
> it look spiffy (which can be pointed out to those who care). But NASA was
> undoubtedly trying to create a tool that works, and they have one, and can
> update it easily as needed. There are lots of folks that we need to attract
> to LC who have been dismissing it as a lightweight hobbyist's playground
> and who need to know its power.
>
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Re: LiveCode has a new eye on the earth

2013-02-12 Thread Peter M. Brigham 
On Feb 12, 2013, at 5:31 PM, Mark Wieder wrote:

> I don't care about the webpage. Halfway down there's a screenshot of the
> LiveCode UI command panel. That's the part I'm complaining about. Yes, I do 
> get
> your point about this being an impressive system, but the part that shows what
> LC looks like in action isn't likely to generate any positive interest.

I might for those who come in thinking that LC is all about eye candy and can't 
do any serious lifting. It would probably take less than 2 days for any one of 
three dozen denizens of this list to re-tool their GUI to make it look spiffy 
(which can be pointed out to those who care). But NASA was undoubtedly trying 
to create a tool that works, and they have one, and can update it easily as 
needed. There are lots of folks that we need to attract to LC who have been 
dismissing it as a lightweight hobbyist's playground and who need to know its 
power.

-- Peter

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Re: Campaign update

2013-02-12 Thread Peter W A Wood 
Kevin 

One small thing that could be done is to link the RunRev Facebook page to the 
Kickstarter page. At the moment, the text "Has not connected Facebook" is 
displayed by the Facebook logo on the Kickstarter project page.

Regards

Peter

On 13 Feb 2013, at 02:11, Kevin Miller wrote:

> Hi Mark,
> 
> We're doing lots outside the community. I'll post a more extensive update
> on our efforts there tomorrow.
> 
> Kind regards,
> 
> Kevin
> 
> Kevin Miller ~ ke...@runrev.com ~ http://www.runrev.com/
> LiveCode: Everyone can code
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On 12/02/2013 17:17, "Mark Schonewille" 
> wrote:
> 
>> Hi Kevin,
>> 
>> Thanks for the e-mail, but it is yet another message to the already
>> existing LiveCode community. It isn't clear to me what RunRev is doing
>> to reach people outside this community and how we could help. Could you
>> elaborate on that? (I'd like to read a little more than "tell your
>> friends", "share on social media" and "we're open to suggestions").
>> 
>> --
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>> 
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>> On 2/12/2013 17:44, Kevin Miller wrote:
>>> Hi Team,
>>> 
>>> We are now approaching the half way point on the campaign. We're a
>>> quarter
>>> of the way through funding. While there is often a spike at the end of
>>> Kickstarter projects, I think we have more work to do to keep building
>>> momentum!
>>> 
>>> While the vast majority of the comments and feedback we've had on this
>>> campaign has been positive, there has been some confusion from a sizable
>>> minority. Reading the various comments on the campaign I think there the
>>> cause is the lack of clarity around the goal of "going open source" (not
>>> something which costs money), vs the "actual project", which requires
>>> development effort and thus funding. I'm not sure we have done as good
>>> a job
>>> as we could have in communicating that. I'm also not sure that the
>>> campaign
>>> has yet resonated as widely with those outside our customer base as we
>>> intended. I think this is probably the reason.
>>> 
>>> So we've updated the campaign page today. The project has been retitled
>>> to
>>> "Next Generation LiveCode (Open Source)" so that we clearly communicate
>>> the
>>> project itself in the headline. We've reworked the text to state the
>>> benefits to the end user more clearly, asking questions up front which
>>> resonate with our target audience and then telling a simple story. We've
>>> talked about the ground breaking changes we're making and linked to the
>>> blog
>>> posts. We've moved the various pledge level graphics off to make the
>>> page
>>> easier to navigate. And we've put the licensing questions and details
>>> about
>>> the open source license into the FAQ.
>>> 
>>> We have also added a £310 tier which is a 1 year commercial license (or
>>> extension to any existing license end date of 1 year) plus the previous
>>> tiers. This is in response to requests for a tier that just focuses on
>>> that.
>>> 
>>> I hope these changes, when taken together with the two video updates we
>>> did
>>> at the end of last week (new top video showing you what you can do, and
>>> new
>>> intro to the longer video showing clearly our unique selling points)
>>> will
>>> help us to communicate better what this campaign is about!
>>> 
>>> You can see it as a halfway point relaunch.
>>> 
>>> I'd welcome your feedback on these changes. We can continue to tweak the
>>> page if necessary. We'll be updating the various press folk we're
>>> working
>>> with on the new messaging angle and redoubling our efforts to get the
>>> word
>>> out there and make our case!
>>> 
>>> I'll be holding a webinar on Thursday at 5PM UK to take any questions.
>>> You
>>> can sign up here https://www2.gotomeeting.com/register/297977402
>>> 
>>> Thanks so much for your feedback and support. More soon.
>>> 
>>> Kind regards,
>>> 
>>> Kevin
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Re: LiveCode has a new eye on the earth

2013-02-12 Thread Mark Wieder 
Peter M. Brigham  writes:

> 
> The NASA people didn't create the webpage. Quarrel with the page design if you
will, using LC to run a major
> satellite data system is impressive. That's the point. It's worth letting
people know about it.
> 

I don't care about the webpage. Halfway down there's a screenshot of the
LiveCode UI command panel. That's the part I'm complaining about. Yes, I do get
your point about this being an impressive system, but the part that shows what
LC looks like in action isn't likely to generate any positive interest.

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Re: LiveCode has a new eye on the earth

2013-02-12 Thread Mark Wieder 
Geoff Canyon  writes:

> 
> If I had a dollar for every quick hack I've bodged together over the
> years...

Sure - and that goes for all of us. But the OP said

"I love to use the NASA Landsat as an example of how LC is not just a hobbyist's
language!"

and I would draw the line at promoting a quick hack as our example of anything.
Granted the software under the hood is probably impressive, but the retro 1995
UI is pretty yawn-inspiring. I wouldn't point to that interface if I were trying
to rally support. NASA could use some better PR folks, and I think the
KickStarter project wouldn't benefit much from highlighting this example unless
it just talked about it and didn't show it.

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Re: LiveCode has a new eye on the earth

2013-02-12 Thread Peter M. Brigham 
The NASA people didn't create the webpage. Quarrel with the page design if you 
will, using LC to run a major satellite data system is impressive. That's the 
point. It's worth letting people know about it.

-- Peter

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On Feb 12, 2013, at 4:15 PM, Mark Wieder wrote:

> Geoff Canyon  writes:
> 
>> Who created it?
> 
> Looks like a quick hack.
> It's the sort of thing that gives LiveCode a bad name...
> 
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Re: LiveCode has a new eye on the earth

2013-02-12 Thread Geoff Canyon 
If I had a dollar for every quick hack I've bodged together over the
years...


On Tue, Feb 12, 2013 at 3:23 PM, Monte Goulding  wrote:

> Actually LiveCode is perfect for quick single purpose/single user app
> development. I don't see why that should give it a bad name.
>
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> On 13/02/2013, at 8:15 AM, Mark Wieder  wrote:
>
> > Looks like a quick hack.
> > It's the sort of thing that gives LiveCode a bad name...
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Re: LiveCode has a new eye on the earth

2013-02-12 Thread Monte Goulding 
Actually LiveCode is perfect for quick single purpose/single user app 
development. I don't see why that should give it a bad name.

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On 13/02/2013, at 8:15 AM, Mark Wieder  wrote:

> Looks like a quick hack.
> It's the sort of thing that gives LiveCode a bad name...

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Re: LiveCode has a new eye on the earth

2013-02-12 Thread Mark Wieder 
Geoff Canyon  writes:

> Who created it?

Looks like a quick hack.
It's the sort of thing that gives LiveCode a bad name...

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DataTree question

2013-02-12 Thread Phil Davis 

Hi folks,

I'm starting to use DataTree 2 from NativeSoft. Nice product - are you 
using it? If so, maybe you can help me.


I want to rearrange "flat" non-container items in a list by dragging 
them around, but am not seeing how to do it. Has anyone figured out how 
to drop item B onto item A and have B show up just below or just above A 
in the list? That's what I'm trying to do. Instead, I drop B onto A and 
B apparently gets merged with A. Maybe it's something simple and I'm 
approaching it wrong.


Thanks -

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Re: mobile push notifications how-to

2013-02-12 Thread Mike Kerner 
Chris,

Back at the beginning of 2012 we were messing around with getting this
done, when John Craig put out a stack to the list called "APNSAssistant".
It works great and has the whole process all laid out.  There is a big long
discussion amongst all of us.  If Pierre's response doesn't get you where
you want to go, email me and we'll work it out.  Easy is an understatement.


On Fri, Feb 1, 2013 at 1:59 PM, Chris Sheffield wrote:

> Does anybody have a how-to guide for using  push notifications? I've read
> through the dictionary and the iOS release notes about how to handle
> received notifications, but how does one actually send out a message? The
> docs mention a "Push Notification Server" and registering for the service,
> but I don't understand how you do that. Is it done through iTunes Connect
> somewhere?
>
> I'm probably just a little thick today, but I can't seem to figure this
> out.
>
> Thanks,
> Chris
>
>
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Re: LiveCode has a new eye on the earth

2013-02-12 Thread Geoff Canyon 
Who created it?


On Tue, Feb 12, 2013 at 1:43 PM, stephen barncard <
stephenrevoluti...@barncard.com> wrote:

> I'm impressed by the unimpressive-ness of the interface. It was probably
> written before 2002.
>
> On Tue, Feb 12, 2013 at 11:34 AM, Colin Holgate  wrote:
>
> > I guess, just don't use the phrase "you don't have to be a rocket
> > scientist to use LiveCode".
> >
> >
> > On Feb 12, 2013, at 2:25 PM, Monte Goulding  >
> > wrote:
> >
> > > >I'm sure it's perfectly usable to those that know how to use it ;-)
> >
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Google OAuth2 For Native Apps

2013-02-12 Thread Paul Foraker 
I see that in 2011 there were some conversations about building a library
or two for Google OAuth2.

Is there anything available now?

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Re: LiveCode has a new eye on the earth

2013-02-12 Thread stephen barncard 
I'm impressed by the unimpressive-ness of the interface. It was probably
written before 2002.

On Tue, Feb 12, 2013 at 11:34 AM, Colin Holgate  wrote:

> I guess, just don't use the phrase "you don't have to be a rocket
> scientist to use LiveCode".
>
>
> On Feb 12, 2013, at 2:25 PM, Monte Goulding 
> wrote:
>
> > >I'm sure it's perfectly usable to those that know how to use it ;-)
>
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Re: LiveCode has a new eye on the earth

2013-02-12 Thread Colin Holgate 
I guess, just don't use the phrase "you don't have to be a rocket scientist to 
use LiveCode".


On Feb 12, 2013, at 2:25 PM, Monte Goulding  wrote:

> >I'm sure it's perfectly usable to those that know how to use it ;-)

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Re: LiveCode has a new eye on the earth

2013-02-12 Thread Monte Goulding 
I'm sure it's perfectly usable to those that know how to use it ;-)

On 13/02/2013, at 6:22 AM, Mark Wieder  wrote:

> Yow! That is one *ugly* interface. I'd just as soon not advertise that as our
> poster child.

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Re: Washington DC LiveCode User Group

2013-02-12 Thread Trevor DeVore 
13 people have signed up in the group so far and I know of at least one
other person close to me who is interested. most of the signups came within
the last day or so. Now that there is enough interested I just have to
figure out a good date/place for the group to meet. I will be working on
that over the next few days.

What to talk about? I still have to query the group to see what people are
interested in learning about and who has stuff they might want to demo. If
nothing else have a couple of things I've been working on this past year
with both internet, UI and database that might be of interest.

-- 
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Blue Mango Learning Systems
www.clarify-it.com-www.screensteps.com


On Tue, Feb 12, 2013 at 1:40 PM, Colin Holgate  wrote:

> How is this going? What will you talk about, and where will you meet?
>
>
> On Feb 5, 2013, at 4:43 PM, Trevor DeVore 
> wrote:
>
> > http://www.linkedin.com/groups/LiveCode-Washington-DC-User-Group-4837481
> >
> > I would like to have our first meeting sometime this month.
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Re: Washington DC LiveCode User Group

2013-02-12 Thread Colin Holgate 
How is this going? What will you talk about, and where will you meet?


On Feb 5, 2013, at 4:43 PM, Trevor DeVore  wrote:

> http://www.linkedin.com/groups/LiveCode-Washington-DC-User-Group-4837481
> 
> I would like to have our first meeting sometime this month.

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Re: Campaign update

2013-02-12 Thread Kevin Miller 
Hi Mark,

We're doing lots outside the community. I'll post a more extensive update
on our efforts there tomorrow.

Kind regards,

Kevin

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LiveCode: Everyone can code




On 12/02/2013 17:17, "Mark Schonewille" 
wrote:

>Hi Kevin,
>
>Thanks for the e-mail, but it is yet another message to the already
>existing LiveCode community. It isn't clear to me what RunRev is doing
>to reach people outside this community and how we could help. Could you
>elaborate on that? (I'd like to read a little more than "tell your
>friends", "share on social media" and "we're open to suggestions").
>
>--
>Best regards,
>
>Mark Schonewille
>
>Economy-x-Talk Consulting and Software Engineering
>Homepage: http://economy-x-talk.com
>Twitter: http://twitter.com/xtalkprogrammer
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>
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>quote.
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>again.
>
>On 2/12/2013 17:44, Kevin Miller wrote:
>> Hi Team,
>>
>> We are now approaching the half way point on the campaign. We're a
>>quarter
>> of the way through funding. While there is often a spike at the end of
>> Kickstarter projects, I think we have more work to do to keep building
>> momentum!
>>
>> While the vast majority of the comments and feedback we've had on this
>> campaign has been positive, there has been some confusion from a sizable
>> minority. Reading the various comments on the campaign I think there the
>> cause is the lack of clarity around the goal of "going open source" (not
>> something which costs money), vs the "actual project", which requires
>> development effort and thus funding. I'm not sure we have done as good
>>a job
>> as we could have in communicating that. I'm also not sure that the
>>campaign
>> has yet resonated as widely with those outside our customer base as we
>> intended. I think this is probably the reason.
>>
>> So we've updated the campaign page today. The project has been retitled
>>to
>> "Next Generation LiveCode (Open Source)" so that we clearly communicate
>>the
>> project itself in the headline. We've reworked the text to state the
>> benefits to the end user more clearly, asking questions up front which
>> resonate with our target audience and then telling a simple story. We've
>> talked about the ground breaking changes we're making and linked to the
>>blog
>> posts. We've moved the various pledge level graphics off to make the
>>page
>> easier to navigate. And we've put the licensing questions and details
>>about
>> the open source license into the FAQ.
>>
>> We have also added a £310 tier which is a 1 year commercial license (or
>> extension to any existing license end date of 1 year) plus the previous
>> tiers. This is in response to requests for a tier that just focuses on
>>that.
>>
>> I hope these changes, when taken together with the two video updates we
>>did
>> at the end of last week (new top video showing you what you can do, and
>>new
>> intro to the longer video showing clearly our unique selling points)
>>will
>> help us to communicate better what this campaign is about!
>>
>> You can see it as a halfway point relaunch.
>>
>> I'd welcome your feedback on these changes. We can continue to tweak the
>> page if necessary. We'll be updating the various press folk we're
>>working
>> with on the new messaging angle and redoubling our efforts to get the
>>word
>> out there and make our case!
>>
>> I'll be holding a webinar on Thursday at 5PM UK to take any questions.
>>You
>> can sign up here https://www2.gotomeeting.com/register/297977402
>>
>> Thanks so much for your feedback and support. More soon.
>>
>> Kind regards,
>>
>> Kevin
>>
>> Kevin Miller ~ ke...@runrev.com ~ http://www.runrev.com/
>> LiveCode: Everyone can code
>>
>
>
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Re: Yet Another Kickstarter stack

2013-02-12 Thread Thierry Douez 
Hi,

As the kickstarter web page changed just few minutes ago,
I made an update of my stack  "*Yet Another KickStarter board".*

You can download it at http://sunny-tdz.com/dwn and
check for *Yet Another KickStarter board*  (end of the page)

The stack is still free and you can still do whatever you like with it.

Regards,

Thierry



2013/2/1 Thierry Douez 

> Hi,
>
> I've just released a stack which scans the kickstarter web page
> and presents the relevant information in a simple way.
> There is a graph which reacts to mouse events.
>
> The stack is free and you can do whatever you like with it.
>
> Enjoy!
>
> Thierry
>
>
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Re: Campaign update

2013-02-12 Thread J. Landman Gay 

On 2/12/13 10:44 AM, Kevin Miller wrote:

Hi Team,

We are now approaching the half way point on the campaign. We're a quarter
of the way through funding. While there is often a spike at the end of
Kickstarter projects, I think we have more work to do to keep building
momentum!


One thing I've been thinking about, and it may be too late for this now, 
is how popular robot projects are. People flock to them. I know a few 
people here have figured out how to get LiveCode to talk with arduino. 
Suppose that stack were cleaned up and provided to anyone who pledged 
any amount. I'd think education and hobbyists would be excited to get a 
working controller. Maybe other people too.


I don't know how polished any of the current stacks are, or what it 
would take to get them into working apps, or even if the people who 
wrote them would be willing to donate their work to the cause. It's just 
an idea I had a few days ago. Robots sell.


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Re: Campaign update

2013-02-12 Thread Mark Schonewille 

Hi Kevin,

Thanks for the e-mail, but it is yet another message to the already 
existing LiveCode community. It isn't clear to me what RunRev is doing 
to reach people outside this community and how we could help. Could you 
elaborate on that? (I'd like to read a little more than "tell your 
friends", "share on social media" and "we're open to suggestions").


--
Best regards,

Mark Schonewille

Economy-x-Talk Consulting and Software Engineering
Homepage: http://economy-x-talk.com
Twitter: http://twitter.com/xtalkprogrammer
KvK: 50277553

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On 2/12/2013 17:44, Kevin Miller wrote:

Hi Team,

We are now approaching the half way point on the campaign. We're a quarter
of the way through funding. While there is often a spike at the end of
Kickstarter projects, I think we have more work to do to keep building
momentum!

While the vast majority of the comments and feedback we've had on this
campaign has been positive, there has been some confusion from a sizable
minority. Reading the various comments on the campaign I think there the
cause is the lack of clarity around the goal of "going open source" (not
something which costs money), vs the "actual project", which requires
development effort and thus funding. I'm not sure we have done as good a job
as we could have in communicating that. I'm also not sure that the campaign
has yet resonated as widely with those outside our customer base as we
intended. I think this is probably the reason.

So we've updated the campaign page today. The project has been retitled to
"Next Generation LiveCode (Open Source)" so that we clearly communicate the
project itself in the headline. We've reworked the text to state the
benefits to the end user more clearly, asking questions up front which
resonate with our target audience and then telling a simple story. We've
talked about the ground breaking changes we're making and linked to the blog
posts. We've moved the various pledge level graphics off to make the page
easier to navigate. And we've put the licensing questions and details about
the open source license into the FAQ.

We have also added a £310 tier which is a 1 year commercial license (or
extension to any existing license end date of 1 year) plus the previous
tiers. This is in response to requests for a tier that just focuses on that.

I hope these changes, when taken together with the two video updates we did
at the end of last week (new top video showing you what you can do, and new
intro to the longer video showing clearly our unique selling points) will
help us to communicate better what this campaign is about!

You can see it as a halfway point relaunch.

I'd welcome your feedback on these changes. We can continue to tweak the
page if necessary. We'll be updating the various press folk we're working
with on the new messaging angle and redoubling our efforts to get the word
out there and make our case!

I'll be holding a webinar on Thursday at 5PM UK to take any questions. You
can sign up here https://www2.gotomeeting.com/register/297977402

Thanks so much for your feedback and support. More soon.

Kind regards,

Kevin

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Campaign update

2013-02-12 Thread Kevin Miller 
Hi Team,

We are now approaching the half way point on the campaign. We're a quarter
of the way through funding. While there is often a spike at the end of
Kickstarter projects, I think we have more work to do to keep building
momentum!

While the vast majority of the comments and feedback we've had on this
campaign has been positive, there has been some confusion from a sizable
minority. Reading the various comments on the campaign I think there the
cause is the lack of clarity around the goal of "going open source" (not
something which costs money), vs the "actual project", which requires
development effort and thus funding. I'm not sure we have done as good a job
as we could have in communicating that. I'm also not sure that the campaign
has yet resonated as widely with those outside our customer base as we
intended. I think this is probably the reason.

So we've updated the campaign page today. The project has been retitled to
"Next Generation LiveCode (Open Source)" so that we clearly communicate the
project itself in the headline. We've reworked the text to state the
benefits to the end user more clearly, asking questions up front which
resonate with our target audience and then telling a simple story. We've
talked about the ground breaking changes we're making and linked to the blog
posts. We've moved the various pledge level graphics off to make the page
easier to navigate. And we've put the licensing questions and details about
the open source license into the FAQ.

We have also added a £310 tier which is a 1 year commercial license (or
extension to any existing license end date of 1 year) plus the previous
tiers. This is in response to requests for a tier that just focuses on that.

I hope these changes, when taken together with the two video updates we did
at the end of last week (new top video showing you what you can do, and new
intro to the longer video showing clearly our unique selling points) will
help us to communicate better what this campaign is about!

You can see it as a halfway point relaunch.

I'd welcome your feedback on these changes. We can continue to tweak the
page if necessary. We'll be updating the various press folk we're working
with on the new messaging angle and redoubling our efforts to get the word
out there and make our case!

I'll be holding a webinar on Thursday at 5PM UK to take any questions. You
can sign up here https://www2.gotomeeting.com/register/297977402

Thanks so much for your feedback and support. More soon.

Kind regards,

Kevin

Kevin Miller ~ ke...@runrev.com ~ http://www.runrev.com/
LiveCode: Everyone can code


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Re: A way to help open-source LiveCode

2013-02-12 Thread Mark Schonewille 

Hi guys,

I wanted to let you know that we're at 50 euro now. I think that could 
become much more with your help.


The LiveCode open-source initiative is a great idea. I pledged but I was 
thinking I could pledge more. That's why I'd like to announce that I'll 
use 50% of all net revenues (= after sales tax) of Installer Maker to 
back the open-source edition of LiveCode on Kickstarter, provided that 
the initiative is successful.


You can find more info about Installer Maker for LiveCode at 
http://qery.us/34e


I'll make the additional pledge on 28th February.

--
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half way point, quarter way there...

2013-02-12 Thread Colin Holgate 
A pledge of £70 just took the total to 25.01%.

(I wrote that earlier, but the message didn't go through. A later pledge of 
£119 has taken it to 25.02%)
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