Re: legacy problem?

[Nicolas Cueto]

> have you tried saving the modified or unmodified stack in the Legacy 2.7
format

Yup. And no go. (Thanks, Paul.)

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Re: 5.5.5 linking problem

[Scott Morrow]

Mark, are you trying to build with externals?  I can build with some but I get 
the error when trying to build using ones related to printing. (rrehardcopy  
and/or mergdoc )

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On Jul 22, 2013, at 7:10 PM, Mark Smith  wrote:

> Yes Scott, that is exactly the same error I am seeing as well. 
> 
> Mark

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Anyone have an OPEN SOURCE project as a FTP app?

[Mark Rauterkus]

Hi,

Wondering if there is an open souce LiveCode Community project to serve as
an FTP client out there?

I tried a freeware FTP thingie the other week and it came with a zillion
ads and tool bar crazy highjacking stuff with the browser and such. Ugly.



Thanks.


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Re: iOS Developer Portal Down?

[Mike Kerner]

Yeah, I saw that one on...Friday, I think?

It's been 5 days for Apple.  Hopefully they'll have it all tweaked soon.
Since there haven't been massive amounts of leaks about the incident, I
wonder what actually happened.


On Tue, Jul 23, 2013 at 1:47 AM, Mark Wieder  wrote:

> Mike-
>
> On 7/20/2013, the ubuntuforums website was compromised and the attackers
> got
> "every user's local username, password, and email address"
>
> See http://ubuntuforums.org/announce.html?t=2063384 for the details.
> Canonical is still working to restore the site.
>
> Obviously if you signed up for the site at some point and used the same
> password elsewhere, you should consider
> changing it.
>
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Re: iOS Developer Portal Down?

[Mike Kerner]

oh, here we go:
http://www.csoonline.com/article/736775/apple-closes-developer-site-after-researcher-s-intrusive-hack?source=CSONLE_nlt_salted_hash_2013-07-23


On Tue, Jul 23, 2013 at 8:53 AM, Mike Kerner wrote:

> Yeah, I saw that one on...Friday, I think?
>
> It's been 5 days for Apple.  Hopefully they'll have it all tweaked soon.
> Since there haven't been massive amounts of leaks about the incident, I
> wonder what actually happened.
>
>
> On Tue, Jul 23, 2013 at 1:47 AM, Mark Wieder wrote:
>
>> Mike-
>>
>> On 7/20/2013, the ubuntuforums website was compromised and the attackers
>> got
>> "every user's local username, password, and email address"
>>
>> See http://ubuntuforums.org/announce.html?t=2063384 for the details.
>> Canonical is still working to restore the site.
>>
>> Obviously if you signed up for the site at some point and used the same
>> password elsewhere, you should consider
>> changing it.
>>
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>>  mwie...@ahsoftware.net
>>
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Re: Anyone have an OPEN SOURCE project as a FTP app?

[Matthias Rebbe]

Mark,

Andre Garzia create ftp command some time ago.

You can find it in the "user samples" section. Search for "ftp commander"

Or just download it from here

http://revonline2.runrev.com/stack/516/FTP-Commander


HTH,

Matthias


Am 23.07.2013 um 14:41 schrieb Mark Rauterkus :

> Hi,
> 
> Wondering if there is an open souce LiveCode Community project to serve as
> an FTP client out there?
> 
> I tried a freeware FTP thingie the other week and it came with a zillion
> ads and tool bar crazy highjacking stuff with the browser and such. Ugly.
> 
> 
> 
> Thanks.
> 
> 
> Mark Rauterkus
> m...@rauterkus.com
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Re: Anyone have an OPEN SOURCE project as a FTP app?

[Andrew Kluthe]

Filezilla or Cyberduck come highly recommended.


On Tue, Jul 23, 2013 at 8:01 AM, Matthias Rebbe <
matthias_livecode_150...@m-r-d.de> wrote:

> Mark,
>
> Andre Garzia create ftp command some time ago.
>
> You can find it in the "user samples" section. Search for "ftp commander"
>
> Or just download it from here
>
> http://revonline2.runrev.com/stack/516/FTP-Commander
>
>
> HTH,
>
> Matthias
>
>
> Am 23.07.2013 um 14:41 schrieb Mark Rauterkus :
>
> > Hi,
> >
> > Wondering if there is an open souce LiveCode Community project to serve
> as
> > an FTP client out there?
> >
> > I tried a freeware FTP thingie the other week and it came with a zillion
> > ads and tool bar crazy highjacking stuff with the browser and such. Ugly.
> >
> >
> >
> > Thanks.
> >
> >
> > Mark Rauterkus
> > m...@rauterkus.com
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Re: Anyone have an OPEN SOURCE project as a FTP app?

[Richard Gaskin]

Mark Rauterkus wrote:

Wondering if there is an open souce LiveCode Community project to serve as
an FTP client out there?

I tried a freeware FTP thingie the other week and it came with a zillion
ads and tool bar crazy highjacking stuff with the browser and such. Ugly.


The absence of SFTP support makes any file transfer tool in LiveCode a 
non-starter.


Thankfully, for general FTP/SFTP needs there's FileZilla, free, open, 
and ad-free:



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Re: iOS Developer Portal Down?

[Colin Holgate]

The person in question posted a video about what he had done. I watched most of 
the video but now I see that it has been made “private”.

The gist of the story is that a security expert had logged 13 security flaw 
bugs with Apple, and to illustrate the possible threat of one of the flaws he 
also sent a list of Apple employee developer log-in details.

Hopefully Apple will give him a job.
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Re: iOS Developer Portal Down?

[Mike Kerner]

HA!  Apple didn't give Charlie Miller a job, they banned him for a year,
and what he did was not only a lot less offensive, but long term, it was, I
believe, more helpful to Apple


On Tue, Jul 23, 2013 at 10:43 AM, Colin Holgate  wrote:

> The person in question posted a video about what he had done. I watched
> most of the video but now I see that it has been made “private”.
>
> The gist of the story is that a security expert had logged 13 security
> flaw bugs with Apple, and to illustrate the possible threat of one of the
> flaws he also sent a list of Apple employee developer log-in details.
>
> Hopefully Apple will give him a job.
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Re: OT: Evil Mad Scientist Labs teaches boolean logic

[Alejandro Tejada]

Hi Mark,

I have read your post weeks ago, and bookmarked it.
How could we make a computer simulation of this
artifact using Livecode?
Does exists downloable plans to build one?

Videos does give a hint about the inner workings.
http://hackaday.com/2011/06/09/gigantic-ball-manipulating-binary-computer/

Thanks in advance!

Al


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> 
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Re: iOS Developer Portal Down?

[Colin Holgate]

Except, he broke the developer rules before then telling Apple about it. This 
other guy posted a message saying that the problem really should get fixed 
quickly, before then following up with example data.


On Jul 23, 2013, at 10:48 AM, Mike Kerner  wrote:

> >HA!  Apple didn't give Charlie Miller a job, they banned him for a year,
> and what he did was not only a lot less offensive, but long term, it was, I
> believe, more helpful to Apple

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Re: iOS Developer Portal Down?

[Ian Wood]

I suspect that Apple are more concerned with the 100k other records he 
downloaded than the Apple employee details...

Ian

On 23 Jul 2013, at 15:43, Colin Holgate  wrote:

> The gist of the story is that a security expert had logged 13 security flaw 
> bugs with Apple, and to illustrate the possible threat of one of the flaws he 
> also sent a list of Apple employee developer log-in details.

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Re: iOS Developer Portal Down?

[Mike Kerner]

Yes Charlie did break the DP rules.  This guy went a little further,
though.  If they didn't offer Charlie a job this guy won't get one, either.


On Tue, Jul 23, 2013 at 10:59 AM, Ian Wood wrote:

> I suspect that Apple are more concerned with the 100k other records he
> downloaded than the Apple employee details...
>
> Ian
>
> On 23 Jul 2013, at 15:43, Colin Holgate  wrote:
>
> > The gist of the story is that a security expert had logged 13 security
> flaw bugs with Apple, and to illustrate the possible threat of one of the
> flaws he also sent a list of Apple employee developer log-in details.
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[semi OT] setting a subdomain in cPanel / on-rev

[jbv]

Hi folks,

Just a quick question about subdomain settings in cPanel :

I have added an add-on to my main domain and everything works fine :
now I have myAddon.myMainDomain displaying in cPanel and the add-on
myAddon.com displays in my browser.

Now I want to add a subdomain to the newly created add-on in order to
get something like  subdomain.myAddon.com
I have created this subdomain in the dedicated cPanel page.
the subdomain points to a directory named public_html/subdomain
containing a fully functionnal index.php script.

However, when trying  subdomain.myAddon.com in a browser, the page
can't be reached...
Is there just a dns propagation thing or did I do anything wrong ?
Did anyone already use such settings in cPanel ?

Thanks in advance for any help...
jbv


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french accents and other funny letters...

[John Dixon]

How do I handle letters with accents on the ipad ?... I am getting strange 
chars in the middle of strings of french addreses being returned, when getting 
'google' to change long/lat to physical addresses ...
  
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Re: Reliable script to handle selection/drag-and-drop in a list field?

[Peter Haworth]

Thanks Geoff.

It looks like this is probably not going to work as a behavior for me since
the field I'm using it on includes mouseUp/Down handlers to handle
situations other than drag/drop, but other than that, this is great, thanks
again.

Pete
lcSQL Software 


On Mon, Jul 22, 2013 at 10:48 PM, Geoff Canyon  wrote:

> https://docs.google.com/file/d/0By_mW8YYOZpAME5lTE44c2oxRU0
>
> That should fix the message so that, optionally, you can add a handler to
> your list like this:
>
> on dragLines dragLines,dropLines
> end dragLines
>
> and then if you select lines 12 and 18 and drag them to the top of the list
> you would get that message with dragLines = 12,18 and dropLines = 1,2
>
> gc
>
>
> On Mon, Jul 22, 2013 at 4:03 PM, Geoff Canyon  wrote:
>
> >
> > On Mon, Jul 22, 2013 at 3:44 PM, Peter Haworth  wrote:
> >
> >>
> >> Resending because the original got caught in the dreaded "message is too
> >> long" vortex.
> >>
> >> This is very useful, thanks Geoff.
> >>
> >> I can't quite figure out what's going on with the format statement
> that's
> >> part of the send of dragLines.  Everything after the second backslash is
> >> listed in red in the script editor as if there's an error but no errors
> >> are
> >> listed when a compile it.  I'm not sure what parameters are supposed to
> be
> >> passed but what I see is the final line numbers of the dropped lines (in
> >> quotes), then an empty string (in quotes).  SHould the second parm be
> the
> >> original line numbers?
> >>
> >> Pete
> >> lcSQL Software 
> >
> >
> >
> > I'm seeing the red text in the format command as well. It happens after
> > the second escaped quote I think, and appears to be an error in the
> syntax
> > highlighting rather than an actual error.
> >
> > The dragLines message I messed up fixing the issue Scott mentioned above
> > (darn regression errors...) I have it fixed now, I'll upload a new copy
> in
> > a bit. To answer your question -- the first param is the drag lines, the
> > second is the drop lines.
> >
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Re: Reliable script to handle selection/drag-and-drop in a list field?

[Richard Gaskin]

Peter Haworth wrote:

It looks like this is probably not going to work as a behavior for me since
the field I'm using it on includes mouseUp/Down handlers to handle
situations other than drag/drop, but other than that, this is great, thanks
again.


I wonder if Geoff's script could be revised to use "before mouseDown" or 
"after mouseDown" to allow instances to handle the primary forms of 
those messages without interference?


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Re: How to manage file name containing a date with /

[André Bisseret]

Thanks a lot Thomas for your precise questions; that help me a lot to better 
explain my problem.
That's what I am trying below. 

Le 22 juil. 2013 à 23:03, Thomas McGrath III a écrit :

> Andre,
> 
> You are not answering the proper questions to come up with a solution for 
> this.
Well ,I was trying to be as simple as possible (but I understand that was not 
efficient!)
--
Since 2006 the doctor is using an app I developed according to his needs. 
In this app. he creates one stack (medical record) for each patient with all 
the necessary informations about the patient. 
At each consultation he created a new card in the stack of the patient. 
- In a field he writes his prescriptions that can be printed.
- In another field he writes his observations, and any information he thinks 
useful to the follow-up of the patient.
This is in the form of short rather laconic sentences. They may be completed by 
a document (a PDF file which can be open from there:
at the end of some such sentences he can create an" icon": in fact, a char "#" 
with a little image-source (DOC).
such as when it is selected (double-click) the corresponding file is launched.

A bit difficult to explain shortly how this is done:
On his disk, In the folder where all the material of the app. is located he has 
a folder, say "DOCS BASE" where he put all  
the documents (mainly PDF files) concerning all his patients.

When he opens the stack of a patient, the list of the documents concerning this 
patient is built (from the DOCS BASE) and put in a custom property of the stack 
of the patient.
When on a card of consultation in the stack of a patient, thanks to a button he 
cans show a field (normally hidden) where the list of documents concerning the 
patient is put in this field (using the custom property)
Doing shift key + click on the name of a document in this list creates a little 
image (DOC) whose a custom property is the name of the document.
selecting the char # then clicking on the image, set the image source of the 
char # to the new image which is then hidden. (these images have as names doc 
1, doc 2 etc).
And then, each time he double-clicks on such an "icon" the corresponding file 
(custom property of the image source) is launched.

Hoping it is not too obscure!

Now, this doctor is going into retirement at the end of this year.
He would like to give to each of his patient, on a USB key, a synthesis of 
their medical record so that they can give it to the new doctor they will 
choose.

That is the new app. I am about to complete.
One click on a specific button "create transfert folder" create the folder that 
will be dragged on the USB key of the patient

This folder will contains 
 - a standalone for mac
- a standalone for Windows.
- a sub-folder containing all the document files concerning this patient (they 
have been copied from the folder "DOCS BASE")

on Mac the names of these files in this folder keep the slash as 
separator of the date
not on Windows : there is the bizarre dot in place of the slash.
- other files : in particular a stack which is a copy of the last consultation 
(last card) of the stack of the patient (his medical record)
So on this stack there can be double-clickable "icon" which should open the 
right document.
in the script of this stack :
=
local tCharNum,tFieldNum,tDocName,tPath,
---
on selectionChanged
   if word 1 of the selectedText is "#" then
  select word 1 of the selectedChunk
  put word 2 of the selectedChunk into tCharNum
  put last word of the selectedChunk into tFieldNum
--- TitreDuDoc is the custom property of the image whose the value is the 
name of the file
put the TitreDuDoc of img (the imageSource of char tCharNum of fld 
tFieldNum) into tDocName
 adapting the accented characters to Windows
if the the platform is "win32" then put macToISO(tDocName) into 
tDocName

set the itemDel to slash
put the filename of this stack into tPath
put tDocName into last item of tPath
launch document tPath
   end if
end selectionChanged   

> Questions:
> 1. Where are the files located when using the Mac version of your app? (same 
> computer? different computer?)
same computer (the computer of the reader
> 2. Where are the filed located when using the Windows version of your app? 
> (same computer? different computer?)
idem
> 3. Are they on a server?
no
> 4. Are they included with the app when passed on to a Windows machine?
they are in a folder which is at the same level as the app
> 5. What happens when you -- answer file "Choose a file:" -- do they show up? 
on Mac, yes; on Windows, no
> 6. If so what happens when you -- put url ("file:" & it) into tFile -- does 
> tFile hold the correct full path or does it just say "2013.pdf" ?
 For it and for tFile as well  I get a very long text with cabalistic 
characters!
But I am not at al

Re: Anyone have an OPEN SOURCE project as a FTP app?

[Dr. Hawkins]

On Tue, Jul 23, 2013 at 7:41 AM, Richard Gaskin
 wrote:
> Thankfully, for general FTP/SFTP needs there's FileZilla, free, open, and
> ad-free:
> 

I've been using filezilla for years now.

Bizzarely, the software used by Chapter 13 bankruptcy trustees does
*not* work with unix command line ftp.

Seriously.

You get a 0 length file.


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Re: How to manage file name containing a date with /

[Mark Wieder]

André-

Tuesday, July 23, 2013, 11:26:43 AM, you wrote:

> One click on a specific button "create transfert folder" create
> the folder that will be dragged on the USB key of the patient

My guess on this:

in the script of that button, transform the filenames into something
less troublesome, probably converting the slashes to underscores, in
the folder on the usb drive and set the TitreDuDoc property of the
appropriate image. That way your standalone app on whatever platform
will be able to load the documents, and the original documents in the
"DOCS BASE" folder can keep the original names.

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Re: How to manage file name containing a date with /

[Thomas McGrath III]

André

I don't know how to make windows recognize the "/" but you are in luck that the 
Mac can see them.

Others might have a better approach but if it were my project I would 'bite the 
bullet' as it were and build a quick and dirty tool in LC on the Mac and 
rename/fix all of those file names at once and then include them with the app 
so you can move on to writing your main app for the client. A pain but doable 
and once done you don't have to deal with this again.

if tFilename contains "/" then replace "/" with "_" in tFilename -- should do 
the trick when processing each line of the files in folder "DOCS BASE"

Wish you luck on this

Tom

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On Jul 23, 2013, at 2:26 PM, André Bisseret  wrote:

> Thanks a lot Thomas for your precise questions; that help me a lot to better 
> explain my problem.
> That's what I am trying below. 


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Re: Reliable script to handle selection/drag-and-drop in a list field?

[Peter Haworth]

On Tue, Jul 23, 2013 at 11:02 AM, Richard Gaskin  wrote:

> I wonder if Geoff's script could be revised to use "before mouseDown" or
> "after mouseDown" to allow instances to handle the primary forms of those
> messages without interference?


Great idea, The before/after messages are pretty recent additions to the
language IIRC and I haven't used them yet - Is there some way to stop them
happening?

Actually, if I'm understanding Geoff's script correctly, it looks like it
checks for the mouse having moved 4 pixels since mouseDown happened to
indicate the start of a drag so perhaps I don;t need to worry about
stopping the before/after messages.


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[OT] Free Benchmarking Stuff

[Richmond]

http://www.phoronix-test-suite.com/

munchies!

Richmond.

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DataGrid hilited row color?

[webmaster]

I'm fairly new to working with LiveCode Data Grid controls.  I've 
noticed that you can set the color for hilited rows.  In my case, I'm 
showing hilited rows with a RED background color.  However, when the 
data grid loses focus (click in a text field or on a different open 
stack), the hilited row loses the red color and goes to a middle gray 
color.


How do I specify the color for hilited rows when the data grid is not 
active?


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Re: french accents and other funny letters...

[Monte Goulding]

On 24/07/2013, at 3:05 AM, John Dixon  wrote:

> How do I handle letters with accents on the ipad ?... I am getting strange 
> chars in the middle of strings of french addreses being returned, when 
> getting 'google' to change long/lat to physical addresses ...

They are most likely utf8 encoded. You probably want something like:
set the unicodeText of field "address" to uniEncode(theAddress,"utf8") 

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Re: DataGrid hilited row color?

[Andrew Kluthe]

set the dgProp[ "dim on focusOut" ] of group "Data Grid" to false


On Tue, Jul 23, 2013 at 3:55 PM,  wrote:

> I'm fairly new to working with LiveCode Data Grid controls.  I've noticed
> that you can set the color for hilited rows.  In my case, I'm showing
> hilited rows with a RED background color.  However, when the data grid
> loses focus (click in a text field or on a different open stack), the
> hilited row loses the red color and goes to a middle gray color.
>
> How do I specify the color for hilited rows when the data grid is not
> active?
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Re: Reliable script to handle selection/drag-and-drop in a list field?

[Geoff Canyon]

Thanks Kaus for pointing it out, and particularly Scott who wrote the thing
in the first place. When I think back on all I went through with Navigator
trying to make the built-in drag-drop messages work (badly) it's
frustrating that this works so well without using the drag-drop messages at
all :-/

That said, this only does one line at a time, so I needed to dig in. I
spent some time yesterday and now:

1. The code is all in a behavior button. Set a list field's behavior to the
button, you're done.
2. The behavior sends an optional dragLines message to the field with what
lines were dragged where, making it easy to add functionality in the field
when the user does something.
3. It handles multiple lines, and discontiguous lines. Discontiguous lines
are shown being dragged together, i.e. the screen shot does not include the
lines between them that aren't being dragged. If there are more lines being
dragged than will fit in an image of the field, the extras are replaced
with an elipsis "..."
4. I removed the removal code. It would be simple to add it back.
5. There is about 40% less code, which (I think) will scale to extremely
large lists and selections better. I tried it with 10,000 lines and
selections of 1,000s and it worked fine on my machine.

I have not tested it extensively. It could be horribly broken in some way I
didn't notice. I put a huge disclaimer on it saying that it isn't the
original and put a copy here:
https://docs.google.com/file/d/0By_mW8YYOZpAWHpJQ1R4dlhZYTQ

Scott, feel free to grab it and do whatever with it, ignore it, or ask me
to take it down.

Anyone who uses it and finds bugs, please let me know here.

gc


On Thu, Jul 18, 2013 at 11:45 AM, Scott Rossi wrote:

> You can load the stack directly in LC:
> go URL "http://www.tactilemedia.com/site_files/downloads/getinline.rev";
>
>
> But this manages single lines only -- you'd have make to make adjustments
> to handle multiple lines, which will be challenging with a discontiguous
> selection.
>
> Regards,
>
> Scott Rossi
> Creative Director
> Tactile Media, UX/UI Design
>
>
>
>
> On 7/18/13 9:39 AM, "Klaus major-k"  wrote:
>
> >Hi Geoff,
> >
> >Am 18.07.2013 um 18:23 schrieb Geoff Canyon :
> >
> >> I did some quick research, and this looks to be as much of a pain as I
> >> remember -- or am I missing something? All I want is to place a
> >>scrolling
> >> list field on a card, enable the multipleLines and nonContiguousHilites
> >>of
> >> it, and then enable the (non-existent) supportDragAndDrop property.
> >
> >take a look at Scott Rossi's solution to this:
> >
> >
> >Not sure if this works with multilines, but should get you started :-)
> >
> >> On Wed, Jul 17, 2013 at 1:51 PM, Geoff Canyon 
> wrote:
> >>
> >>> Does anyone have code to share that allows discontiguous selection and
> >>> drag and drop within a list field? i.e. if I have a list field with:
> >>>
> >>> 1
> >>> 2
> >>> 3
> >>> 4
> >>> 5
> >>>
> >>> I can click 3 to select it, shift-click 5 to select 3 to 5,
> >>>command-click
> >>> 4 so that 3 and 5 are selected, and then click and drag 3 (with 5
> >>>along for
> >>> the ride) above 2 and end up with:
> >>>
> >>> 1
> >>> 3
> >>> 5
> >>> 2
> >>> 4
> >
> >Best
> >
> >Klaus
> >
> >--
> >Klaus Major
> >http://www.major-k.de
> >kl...@major-k.de
> >
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Re: paste and closeField

[Dr. Hawkins]

On Sat, Jul 20, 2013 at 8:47 PM,   wrote:
> I did not check the docs, but if I paste into a field and then click on
the card somewhere, say, a
>closefield message is sent to the field.

According to a comment in the Dictionary,
pmb...@gmail.com
2010-12-12 at 11:35:09
Note that if you paste text into a field, the closeField message is not
sent after the focus leaves the field, ie, the field is not flagged as
having had its contents changed. The "paste" command appears to be
equivalent to "put the clipboarddata["text"] into the selection."

Hmm, and I just put traps for closeField and exitField and pasted then
tabbed.  It seems that the comment is wrong . . .

> In any case, you can always trap "textChange".

But that would be synchronous.

When someone pastes in, he's likely to add more himself before leaving the
field.




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Re: Reliable script to handle selection/drag-and-drop in a list field?

[Geoff Canyon]

https://docs.google.com/file/d/0By_mW8YYOZpATnFfeExKNkt1VXc

This version updates the history of the selection after a drag so the
problem you saw should be corrected. Feel free to update the instructions,
etc. and repost on your site. Let me know if you think of anything else it
needs.


On Sun, Jul 21, 2013 at 3:06 PM, Scott Rossi  wrote:

> It's great Geoff!   The one minor issue I noticed is, after a drag/drop
> action, the field doesn't appear to be put back into a state of being able
> to drag a new line.  Doing so seems to enable one or multiple line
> selections, but no drag.  I have to click a second time to start a drag
> action.  But otherwise seems to work as expected.
>
> No "take down" necessary.  If anything, I would ask if I could add a copy
> to my site, so folks have more places to find it.
>
>
> Best Regards,
>
> Scott Rossi
> Creative Director
> Tactile Media, UX/UI Design
>
>
>
>
> On 7/21/13 11:45 AM, "Geoff Canyon"  wrote:
>
> >Thanks Kaus for pointing it out, and particularly Scott who wrote the
> >thing
> >in the first place. When I think back on all I went through with Navigator
> >trying to make the built-in drag-drop messages work (badly) it's
> >frustrating that this works so well without using the drag-drop messages
> >at
> >all :-/
> >
> >That said, this only does one line at a time, so I needed to dig in. I
> >spent some time yesterday and now:
> >
> >1. The code is all in a behavior button. Set a list field's behavior to
> >the
> >button, you're done.
> >2. The behavior sends an optional dragLines message to the field with what
> >lines were dragged where, making it easy to add functionality in the field
> >when the user does something.
> >3. It handles multiple lines, and discontiguous lines. Discontiguous lines
> >are shown being dragged together, i.e. the screen shot does not include
> >the
> >lines between them that aren't being dragged. If there are more lines
> >being
> >dragged than will fit in an image of the field, the extras are replaced
> >with an elipsis "..."
> >4. I removed the removal code. It would be simple to add it back.
> >5. There is about 40% less code, which (I think) will scale to extremely
> >large lists and selections better. I tried it with 10,000 lines and
> >selections of 1,000s and it worked fine on my machine.
> >
> >I have not tested it extensively. It could be horribly broken in some way
> >I
> >didn't notice. I put a huge disclaimer on it saying that it isn't the
> >original and put a copy here:
> >https://docs.google.com/file/d/0By_mW8YYOZpAWHpJQ1R4dlhZYTQ
> >
> >Scott, feel free to grab it and do whatever with it, ignore it, or ask me
> >to take it down.
> >
> >Anyone who uses it and finds bugs, please let me know here.
> >
> >gc
> >
> >
> >On Thu, Jul 18, 2013 at 11:45 AM, Scott Rossi
> >wrote:
> >
> >> You can load the stack directly in LC:
> >> go URL "http://www.tactilemedia.com/site_files/downloads/getinline.rev";
> >>
> >>
> >> But this manages single lines only -- you'd have make to make
> >>adjustments
> >> to handle multiple lines, which will be challenging with a discontiguous
> >> selection.
> >>
> >> Regards,
> >>
> >> Scott Rossi
> >> Creative Director
> >> Tactile Media, UX/UI Design
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> On 7/18/13 9:39 AM, "Klaus major-k"  wrote:
> >>
> >> >Hi Geoff,
> >> >
> >> >Am 18.07.2013 um 18:23 schrieb Geoff Canyon :
> >> >
> >> >> I did some quick research, and this looks to be as much of a pain as
> >>I
> >> >> remember -- or am I missing something? All I want is to place a
> >> >>scrolling
> >> >> list field on a card, enable the multipleLines and
> >>nonContiguousHilites
> >> >>of
> >> >> it, and then enable the (non-existent) supportDragAndDrop property.
> >> >
> >> >take a look at Scott Rossi's solution to this:
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >Not sure if this works with multilines, but should get you started :-)
> >> >
> >> >> On Wed, Jul 17, 2013 at 1:51 PM, Geoff Canyon 
> >> wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >>> Does anyone have code to share that allows discontiguous selection
> >>and
> >> >>> drag and drop within a list field? i.e. if I have a list field with:
> >> >>>
> >> >>> 1
> >> >>> 2
> >> >>> 3
> >> >>> 4
> >> >>> 5
> >> >>>
> >> >>> I can click 3 to select it, shift-click 5 to select 3 to 5,
> >> >>>command-click
> >> >>> 4 so that 3 and 5 are selected, and then click and drag 3 (with 5
> >> >>>along for
> >> >>> the ride) above 2 and end up with:
> >> >>>
> >> >>> 1
> >> >>> 3
> >> >>> 5
> >> >>> 2
> >> >>> 4
> >> >
> >> >Best
> >> >
> >> >Klaus
> >> >
> >> >--
> >> >Klaus Major
> >> >http://www.major-k.de
> >> >kl...@major-k.de
> >> >
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Auto character translations

[J. Landman Gay]

Does anyone know if the label of a stack is included when the engine 
translates the Mac character set to Windows? I need to include a 
registration mark in the stack title, and that isn't the same in the two 
charater sets.


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Re: DataGrid hilited row color?

[webmaster]

Works beautifully.  Thanks, Andrew!


On Tue, 23 Jul 2013 16:11:17 -0500, Andrew Kluthe wrote:

set the dgProp[ "dim on focusOut" ] of group "Data Grid" to false


On Tue, Jul 23, 2013 at 3:55 PM,  wrote:

I'm fairly new to working with LiveCode Data Grid controls.  I've 
noticed
that you can set the color for hilited rows.  In my case, I'm 
showing
hilited rows with a RED background color.  However, when the data 
grid
loses focus (click in a text field or on a different open stack), 
the

hilited row loses the red color and goes to a middle gray color.

How do I specify the color for hilited rows when the data grid is 
not

active?

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Re: UK Ordnance Maps and LiveCode

[David Bovill]

Pity - can't make that Graham. Interested though - have been to their
earlier presentations, and have an interest in UK based mapping...


On 22 July 2013 12:54, Graham Samuel  wrote:

> Having had quite a lot to do with the official UK Geographical Mapping
> agency, Ordnance Survey (producers of very high quality, detailed mapping
> data) and their rather odd business model, I am hoping to to attend a
> meeting on 2nd August where they will introduce their new iOS SDK. I assume
> that LiveCoders won't be able to use this unless someone builds an
> external, so since this is an area of interest for me, I may be in the
> market for such a thing. That's why I didn't put [OT] at the beginning of
> this mail.
>
> Meanwhile, any Brits interested should follow up
>
>
> http://response.gv-c.com/Mail/View/144?a=4E08E3FDE9C25AAFC5244743EB3E7446&r=C92DC53C4C23F04A2ACD586DFC35C646
>
> The OS is interesting in that it seems to have conflicting statutory
> duties with regard to data - to enhance British life and businesses by
> giving it away, and at the same time to make money out of it. This has
> already resulted in some rival iOS apps, some of which sell the data and
> some which give it away!
>
> Graham
>
>
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OT: UK Ordnance Maps and LiveCode

[kee nethery]

I keep reading this as UK Ordinance Maps and wonder if LiveCode is being used 
to deal with LiveBombs.

Kee Nethery
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Re: Mac drop file on standalone, process, and quit

[J. Landman Gay]

On 7/23/13 3:34 PM, Łukasz Józwiak wrote:> SET & PUT is not same look in 
rev docs, and SET work for me always PUT only

> at start. look:
> in app file

I'm familiar with the behavior of "put" and "set", it's been many years. 
;) You can't attach files to this mailing list, so we can't see what you 
tried to include. But the two statements do the same thing. Try this:


Create a field in a new stack. In the message box:

   put "this is a test" into field 1

The words will appear in the field. Now type this in the message box:

   set the text of fld 1 to "this is test two"

That will replace all the original text with the new text. Now do this 
again:


   put "this is test three" into fld 1

And again, all the text is replaced.

If you aren't getting the same behavior in your own script, post the 
part that behaves differently and we can look. (Don't post a very long 
script or you will exceed the limitations of the mailing list.)


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RE: french accents and other funny letters...

[John Dixon]

Monte...

Thank you...

   put approxAddress(coord) into temp
   set the unicodeText of fld "latlong" of card "theworks" to 
uniEncode(temp,"utf8") 

That was right on the nose... I would be too embarrassed to say how long I have 
spent not getting that correct...:-)

go gently...

> From: mo...@sweattechnologies.com
> Subject: Re: french accents and other funny letters...
> Date: Wed, 24 Jul 2013 07:01:07 +1000
> To: use-livecode@lists.runrev.com
> 
> 
> On 24/07/2013, at 3:05 AM, John Dixon  wrote:
> 
> > How do I handle letters with accents on the ipad ?... I am getting strange 
> > chars in the middle of strings of french addreses being returned, when 
> > getting 'google' to change long/lat to physical addresses ...
> 
> They are most likely utf8 encoded. You probably want something like:
> set the unicodeText of field "address" to uniEncode(theAddress,"utf8") 
> 
> Cheers
> 
> --
> Monte Goulding
> 
> M E R Goulding - software development services
> mergExt - There's an external for that!
> 
> 
> 
> 
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Re: OT: UK Ordnance Maps and LiveCode

[Ian Wood]

Actually...

Ordnance (as in Ordnance Survey) is indeed bombs. The reason for the founding 
of the OS was to have accurate maps for artillery etc.

Ordinance (what you thought you'd misread it as) is orders and laws.

:-)

Ian


On 23 Jul 2013, at 22:46, kee nethery  wrote:

> I keep reading this as UK Ordinance Maps and wonder if LiveCode is being used 
> to deal with LiveBombs.
> 
> Kee Nethery
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Re: Reliable script to handle selection/drag-and-drop in a list field?

[Geoff Canyon]

On Tue, Jul 23, 2013 at 12:34 PM, Peter Haworth  wrote:

> It looks like this is probably not going to work as a behavior for me since
> the field I'm using it on includes mouseUp/Down handlers to handle
> situations other than drag/drop, but other than that, this is great, thanks
> again.
>


For earlier versions of LC, if you pass the following messages after you do
whatever you like, the drag and drop should still work:

mouseEnter
mouseDown
mouseMove
mouseUp
mouseRelease
selectionChanged

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Re: Reliable script to handle selection/drag-and-drop in a list field?

[Geoff Canyon]

On Tue, Jul 23, 2013 at 1:02 PM, Richard Gaskin
wrote:

> I wonder if Geoff's script could be revised to use "before mouseDown" or
> "after mouseDown" to allow instances to handle the primary forms of those
> messages without interference?
>


I checked, and the appropriate combination of before and after handlers
works great. I want to adjust the positioning of the highlight a bit and
then I'll post an update.

gc
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Re: [OT] Free Benchmarking Stuff

[Peter M. Brigham]

Richard Gaskin's old stack 4W_RevBench.rev is helpful here. Allows you to 
compare the speed of two different solutions to a problem. I use it 
periodically when efficiency questions come up. Probably available at 
http://www.fourthworld.com, Richard can guide you if you can't find it.

-- Peter

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On Jul 21, 2013, at 6:51 PM, Alejandro Tejada wrote:

> Hi Richmmond,
> 
> On Sun, 21 Jul 2013 10:53:08 +0300
> Richmond wrote:
> 
>> http://www.phoronix-test-suite.com/
>> munchies!
> 
> How could we use this benchmarking software
> with LiveCode?
> 
> Does exists a single stack (or a group of stacks)
> that produce benchmark tests for every LiveCode
> command, function and property?
> 
> Thanks in advance!
> 
> Al
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Setting up LC Server on Dreamhost

[Peter Bogdanoff]

Hi,

Having seen the recommendations from the list, I now have a dedicated server 
with Dreamhost that I've been using to serve audio files.

Now, I'm going a step further and want to start working with LiveCode server. 
However, I've never configured a server and I'm finding the RunRev online 
lesson/documentation too sparse for my understanding. 

I've uploaded the livecode server folder into a cgi-bin that I created. I get 
stuck at the issue of the Apache configuration file/htaccess. Since I seem 
unable to modify the Apache config file, I've made a .htaccess file. Then, when 
I try to display a test.lc file in the browser I get an file not found and 
internal configuration error. I'm not at all sure about what I'm doing.

Can anyone give me give me pointers or send me somewhere...?

Peter Bogdanoff
UCLA
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Re: Setting up LC Server on Dreamhost

[stephen barncard]

On Tue, Jul 23, 2013 at 3:34 PM, Peter Bogdanoff  wrote:

> Can anyone give me give me pointers or send me somewhere...?


you probably need to set the permissions.

http://fulton.barncard.com/downloads/LIVECODE_SERVER_SETUP.pdf


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Re: Setting up LC Server on Dreamhost

[stephen barncard]

a dedicated server is not required - the .htaccess method works with shared
servers at DH.

a lot of options are available using htaccess.


On Tue, Jul 23, 2013 at 5:44 PM, stephen barncard <
stephenrevoluti...@barncard.com> wrote:

>
> On Tue, Jul 23, 2013 at 3:34 PM, Peter Bogdanoff  wrote:
>
>> Can anyone give me give me pointers or send me somewhere...?
>
>
> you probably need to set the permissions.
>
> http://fulton.barncard.com/downloads/LIVECODE_SERVER_SETUP.pdf
>
>
> --
>
>
>
> Stephen Barncard
> San Francisco Ca. USA
>
> more about sqb  
>



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Ubuntu Phone/Computer

[Mark Wieder]

All right - this is Kickstarter, so there are no guarantees about
anything, but it *is* Canonical.

http://boingboing.net/2013/07/22/crowdfunding-an-ubuntu-phone-t.html

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Re: Ubuntu Phone/Computer

[Mark Wieder]

Sorry - I meant indiegogo rather than KS.

http://www.indiegogo.com/projects/ubuntu-edge

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Getting data out of Excel

[Michael Julian Lew]

I'm trying to paste data from MS Excel into a table in my Livecode stack 
without success. I suspect that either OSX or Excel have added unwelcome 
complications.

I used to be able to just paste, but nowadays (Excel 2011 Mac OSX 10.7.4) the 
data come in as a long string, with six spaces where a return should be and 
three where a tab should be. Putting the clipboardData["text"] makes no 
difference, and the clipboardData["RTF"] is not what I want.

I can make it work by copying cells in Excel, then Paste Text Only in Nisus 
Writer Pro, then copying and pasting the text from there.

I can write a function to clean up the clipboardData, but it seems silly to 
need to do so. Does anyone have a quick solution?

Regards,
Michael Lew

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Re: UK Ordnance Maps and LiveCode

[Kay C Lan]

On Mon, Jul 22, 2013 at 7:54 PM, Graham Samuel  wrote:

>
> The OS is interesting in that it seems to have conflicting statutory
> duties with regard to data - to enhance British life and businesses by
> giving it away, and at the same time to make money out of it. This has
> already resulted in some rival iOS apps, some of which sell the data and
> some which give it away!
>
> Graham
>

Is this the same mob that want £4,990,000.oo for a CD with all their maps
of Britain on it?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bXvFnzmzcSU at time 3:58 - 4:12

I'm assuming the for free iOS apps are popular.
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Re: Getting data out of Excel

[Kay C Lan]

If you are absolutely sure that the clipboardData["text"] has return
represented by six spaces, and tabs by 3 spaces, then:
put clipboardData["text"] into tData
replace "  " with return in tData
repace "   " with tab in tData

Will only take milliseconds to do what you need! How much quicker do you
want?

On Wed, Jul 24, 2013 at 11:09 AM, Michael Julian Lew <
micha...@unimelb.edu.au> wrote:

> I'm trying to paste data from MS Excel into a table in my Livecode stack
> without success. I suspect that either OSX or Excel have added unwelcome
> complications.
>
> I used to be able to just paste, but nowadays (Excel 2011 Mac OSX 10.7.4)
> the data come in as a long string, with six spaces where a return should be
> and three where a tab should be. Putting the clipboardData["text"] makes no
> difference, and the clipboardData["RTF"] is not what I want.
>
> I can make it work by copying cells in Excel, then Paste Text Only in
> Nisus Writer Pro, then copying and pasting the text from there.
>
> I can write a function to clean up the clipboardData, but it seems silly
> to need to do so. Does anyone have a quick solution?
>
> Regards,
> Michael Lew
>
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