Re: Sprite Kit, Box2D, Performance and LiveCode's Approach to Game Coding
On 08/18/2013 01:18 AM, Lynn Fredricks wrote: snip An investment that cannot work on all supported platforms and not leverage the natural productivity of LiveCode isn't a good investment for Runtime. snip Very well put. There is a danger of getting distracted by these sorts of things. I don't know about all the other users on this list, but I do know that quite a few have invested years of effort on mastering the subtleties of Livecode (and some more, like myself, who have been knocking around in a slightly more half-hearted way), and what frightens me is that were RunRev to take too much tent of individual platform quirks and specialities (apart from those that are strictly necessary to keep Livecode running on those platforms) they might be spending a lot of effort that, in the long run, may not pay off. To illustrate this consider a possible future scenario: 2030: Desktop computers are largely a thing of the past. A large array of handheld devices run on successor systems to Android, Linux and Mobile versions of Mac and Windows, as well as 4-5 completely new operating systems. AND, before I forget, systems presenting a 'screen' in a lens of one's glasses and a keyboard fixed onto one's sporran (maybe that is why Richmond still wears a kilt; in expectation of the day . . .). Many of these devices have no local storage facilities at all beyond their operating systems, possibly stored on ROM chips or somesuch, everything (including apps) being stored in a cloud or on a dedicated server. Without wishing to pass myself off as some sort of seer (I am NOT the 7th son of a 7th son), I think that there is a chance I may be at least 50% right there. AND . . . in 2030: What we think of as 'Windows' and what we think of as 'Mac', and the conglomeration of related systems we think of as 'Linux' will either be extinct or have transmogrified to such states that they bear little or no resemblance to what they are now. Now, I don't know the exact age of Kevin Miller, but I plan to be a sprightly 77 year-old who is still up to his light-programming and his heavy stirring on the Use-List and or Forums. What DO KNOW is that Kevin is quite considerably younger than me, and does not indicate any great urge to retire . . . . SO; RunRev should not go chasing platform specific innovations lest they be Boojums [ http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Snark_%28Lewis_Carroll%29 ]. Richmond. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Mac/WIndows ASCII characters
On 08/17/2013 03:01 PM, Peter Haworth wrote: Do you happen to know if all the entities mentioned there are supported within htmltext? Per my other post, they're not all mentioned in the dictionary entry for htmltext LiveCode seems to render all the html entities, in both forms where applicable, listed on this page, under Linux and Windows: https://www.freeformatter.com/html-entities.html You may run into issues of a char not being available using a particular font on a particular system, but LiveCode seems to otherwise be completely fluent in html entities. Warren ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
mobileCanMakePhoneCall() ?
Is there a way to determine if a mobile device can make a call? I'm was hoping to find something like mobileCanMakePhoneCall(). If the user is on an iPad or other device that is not capable of making a phone call, how does the app know? -Dan ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
RE: mobileCanMakePhoneCall() ?
Read the iOS release notes... page 41... the explanation is there ! ...:-) Subject: mobileCanMakePhoneCall() ? From: d...@clearvisiontech.com Date: Sun, 18 Aug 2013 09:09:48 -0700 To: use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Is there a way to determine if a mobile device can make a call? I'm was hoping to find something like mobileCanMakePhoneCall(). If the user is on an iPad or other device that is not capable of making a phone call, how does the app know? -Dan ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: mobileCanMakePhoneCall() ?
On 8/18/13 11:18 AM, John Dixon wrote: Read the iOS release notes... page 41... the explanation is there ! ...:-) I wish I could find them. The current Release Notes item in the Help menu opens a 9-page PDF with almost no info in it. I had to go back to LiveCode 5.5 and open them there. Is there a way to get the info we used to have? -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | jac...@hyperactivesw.com HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: mobileCanMakePhoneCall() ?
I'm having the same trouble finding that info. The Release Notes PDF(s) for all versions of 6.x.x are either 15 pages or 37 pages long. Can't locate page 41. ~Roger On Sun, Aug 18, 2013 at 1:17 PM, J. Landman Gay jac...@hyperactivesw.comwrote: On 8/18/13 11:18 AM, John Dixon wrote: Read the iOS release notes... page 41... the explanation is there ! ...:-) I wish I could find them. The current Release Notes item in the Help menu opens a 9-page PDF with almost no info in it. I had to go back to LiveCode 5.5 and open them there. Is there a way to get the info we used to have? -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | jac...@hyperactivesw.com HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com __**_ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/**mailman/listinfo/use-livecodehttp://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: mobileCanMakePhoneCall() ?
John, Thank you for the reply, and I would LOVE to read the iOS Release Notes! But, where are they? They used to be in the Help menu... no more! When I choose Release Notes in the Help menu, I get a 15 page document. Can you direct me to where they are? -Dan Read the iOS release notes... page 41... the explanation is there ! ...:-) Is there a way to determine if a mobile device can make a call? I'm was hoping to find something like mobileCanMakePhoneCall(). If the user is on an iPad or other device that is not capable of making a phone call, how does the app know? -Dan ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Tabstops (was IDE Vs MSG box)
The original thread touched on a lot of interesting issues regarding tabstops/tabWidths and how they are entered/interpreted. Carrying on form there, is it time to think about adding the functionality of right and centered tabs to tabstops/widths/some other construct, now that we're in the open source world? I've often wished LC had that capability, especially when working with table fields. Pete lcSQL Software http://www.lcsql.com ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Control From Outside
How about documentation so I can read up on it? I didn't see anything in the docs. On Sat, Aug 17, 2013 at 6:49 PM, Mark Schonewille m.schonewi...@economy-x-talk.com wrote: Hi Mike, On Windows and Linux, you can start a standalone from the command line with parameteres. The parameters can be found in $0, $1 etc. You can do the same on Mac OS X, but you will have probems with the GUI. On Windows, you can also use the relaunch message to decide how a standalone should respond to the command line. The problem with the command line is that you can fire the app only once and can't interact. Using sockets, you may have more control. On Mac OS X, you can use Apple events, but you might also use sockets. If you explain what you want to do exactly, I or someone else might give you better advice. -- Best regards, Mark Schonewille Economy-x-Talk Consulting and Software Engineering Homepage: http://economy-x-talk.com Twitter: http://twitter.com/xtalkprogrammer KvK: 50277553 Use Color Converter to convert CMYK, RGB, RAL, XYZ, H.Lab and other colour spaces. http://www.color-converter.com We have time for new software development projects. Contact me for a quote. On 17 aug 2013, at 19:36, Mike Kerner wrote: I thought there was a way to launch a LC app with parameters, i.e. stdin. Maybe I'm thinking of another IDE. Launching the app isn't the problem. It's passing the parameters to it at launch. I could also create a file somewhere for the app to read. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode -- On the first day, God created the heavens and the Earth On the second day, God created the oceans. On the third day, God put the animals on hold for a few hours, and did a little diving. And God said, This is good. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Control From Outside
applescript will be hard - windows. Sockets are not an option here, but thanks. On Sun, Aug 18, 2013 at 4:40 PM, Mark Schonewille m.schonewi...@economy-x-talk.com wrote: Hi Mike, Search the dictionary for: $ relaunch socket appleEvent Search in the mailing list or on the forum for the same subjects as well as AppleScript (more specifically: tell application Application Name to do script myScript as AppleScript). All these subjects are also discussed in the user manual. Sockets are also discussed in my book. -- Best regards, Mark Schonewille Economy-x-Talk Consulting and Software Engineering Homepage: http://economy-x-talk.com Twitter: http://twitter.com/**xtalkprogrammerhttp://twitter.com/xtalkprogrammer KvK: 50277553 Use Color Converter to convert CMYK, RGB, RAL, XYZ, H.Lab and other colour spaces. http://www.color-converter.com Buy my new book Programming LiveCode for the Real Beginner http://qery.us/3fi Fill out this survey please http://livecodebeginner.**economy-x-talk.com/survey/http://livecodebeginner.economy-x-talk.com/survey/ On 8/18/2013 22:17, Mike Kerner wrote: How about documentation so I can read up on it? I didn't see anything in the docs. __**_ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/**mailman/listinfo/use-livecodehttp://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode -- On the first day, God created the heavens and the Earth On the second day, God created the oceans. On the third day, God put the animals on hold for a few hours, and did a little diving. And God said, This is good. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
saving part of an SQL SELECT back to the table in the same transaction/ getting order
As usual, I'm trying to limit the number of transactions as the lag is more expensive (to the user) than the transaction. I can do something like SELECT name, petname FROM mytable WHERE pettype='cat' ORDER BY petname to get a list ordered by the names of the cats. I'd like, though, to fill that numerical order back into the column, setting column catnum to a value for those entries. It seems that I could do something like WITH SELECT name, petname FROM mytable WHERE pettype='cat' ORDER BY petname UPDATE mytable SET catnum= mumble But I'm not fining anything to get my mumble. It seems kind of silly to do the SELECT, loop about forming a bunch of UPDATE one line statements in LIveCode, and then to feed it back . . . -- Dr. Richard E. Hawkins, Esq. (702) 508-8462 ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Menu newbie confusion
In all my time with LC, I've never used menus - until now. I'm having some trouble getting the hang of it. I'm using LC Community 6.1.0 on OSX 10.8.4 . I'm simply trying to add a menu of my own to the mac menu bar with a disabled item. I have made one with the Menu Builder in a new empty stack. When I tick the Disabled box of an item using the Menu Builder, I'd like to see it grayed-out in the menu when its pulled down. Instead, its simply empty white space. I have tried setting the text colors of the button that is the menu, using the Project Browser but it doesn't seem to change anything. What am I missing? Pointers to documentation gratefully accepted. Cheer, Jerry ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Control From Outside
Mike, You still haven't explained what you want to do. -- Best regards, Mark Schonewille Economy-x-Talk Consulting and Software Engineering Homepage: http://economy-x-talk.com Twitter: http://twitter.com/xtalkprogrammer KvK: 50277553 Use Color Converter to convert CMYK, RGB, RAL, XYZ, H.Lab and other colour spaces. http://www.color-converter.com We have time for new software development projects. Contact me for a quote. On 19 aug 2013, at 00:20, Mike Kerner wrote: applescript will be hard - windows. Sockets are not an option here, but thanks. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: loading time much faster on slower machine
(the faster machine taking notably longer than the slower machine to open livecode and a file). On Thu, Aug 1, 2013 at 5:19 PM, Mike Bonner bonnm...@gmail.com wrote: Ah well. I give. If you find a solution let me know, i'm curious now. *blush* This could, ahh, be explained if, perhaps, the postgres server is running on the slower machine, and the faster machine connects through a VPN . . . D'oh -- Dr. Richard E. Hawkins, Esq. (702) 508-8462 ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: An SQL query to return an UPDATE for the results?
On Sun, Aug 11, 2013 at 2:02 PM, Peter Haworth p...@lcsql.com wrote: On Sat, Aug 10, 2013 at 4:32 PM, Dr. Hawkins doch...@gmail.com wrote: I'm only getting the results from the second query. If done separately, I get multiple rows from the first query. That's what I'd expect, the results of the second query ovewrite the results of the first SELECT. What you need is SELECT first selection. UNION SELECT secondselection Thank you. And I'll need to add a cup of cleverness to align the field types for the first few entries of the table with far fewer columns (after that, I can just select a bunch of NULL. . . ) -- Dr. Richard E. Hawkins, Esq. (702) 508-8462 ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: IDE versus MSG Box - Field Tabstops
On Sat, Aug 17, 2013 at 5:51 PM, Mark Wieder mwie...@ahsoftware.net wrote: Saturday, August 17, 2013, 4:04:38 PM, you wrote: And there is the question of what to return if asked for Name and there is no name for the exact color. The nearest color? RGB instead? theColorThatShallNotBeNamed Gosh, we haven't had to worry about that color since the Bad Times virus ran amock . . .(and the toilet seat still doesn't work right. At least I didn't have a dog . . .) -- Dr. Richard E. Hawkins, Esq. (702) 508-8462 ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: saving part of an SQL SELECT back to the table in the same transaction/ getting order
Sunday, August 18, 2013, 3:25:01 PM, you wrote: It seems kind of silly to do the SELECT, loop about forming a bunch of UPDATE one line statements in LIveCode, and then to feed it back . . . Some stored procedures may come to the rescue here. And once those are working, maybe triggering them on an insert or update, but that may be overkill. -- -Mark Wieder mwie...@ahsoftware.net ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: An SQL query to return an UPDATE for the results?
On Sun, Aug 18, 2013 at 3:29 PM, Dr. Hawkins doch...@gmail.com wrote: And I'll need to add a cup of cleverness to align the field types for the first few entries of the table with far fewer columns (after that, I can just select a bunch of NULL. . . ) Yes, forgot to mention that there must be the same number of columns in all the SELECTs. Pete lcSQL Software http://www.lcsql.com ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Menu newbie confusion
There is something flaky with the Menu Builder
If you watch the Menu Buider you'll see for Menu Items it simply puts an
open bracket '(' before the Item Name. Why this is making the name
disappear and not come back I don't know, BUT if you manually or via script
simply add or remove the '(' the Item Name will gray as expected; at least
it does for me LC 6.1.1 rc 2 OS X 10.8.4
HTH
On Mon, Aug 19, 2013 at 6:25 AM, Jerry Jensen j...@jhj.com wrote:
In all my time with LC, I've never used menus - until now. I'm having some
trouble getting the hang of it. I'm using LC Community 6.1.0 on OSX 10.8.4 .
I'm simply trying to add a menu of my own to the mac menu bar with a
disabled item. I have made one with the Menu Builder in a new empty stack.
When I tick the Disabled box of an item using the Menu Builder, I'd like
to see it grayed-out in the menu when its pulled down. Instead, its
simply empty white space.
I have tried setting the text colors of the button that is the menu, using
the Project Browser but it doesn't seem to change anything.
What am I missing? Pointers to documentation gratefully accepted.
Cheer,
Jerry
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Re: Menu newbie confusion
Eureka! That works.
So the Menu Builder is in the same doghouse as the Geometry Manager...
Thanks a million,
Jerry
On Aug 18, 2013, at 5:06 PM, Kay C Lan lan.kc.macm...@gmail.com wrote:
There is something flaky with the Menu Builder
If you watch the Menu Buider you'll see for Menu Items it simply puts an
open bracket '(' before the Item Name. Why this is making the name
disappear and not come back I don't know, BUT if you manually or via script
simply add or remove the '(' the Item Name will gray as expected; at least
it does for me LC 6.1.1 rc 2 OS X 10.8.4
HTH
On Mon, Aug 19, 2013 at 6:25 AM, Jerry Jensen j...@jhj.com wrote:
In all my time with LC, I've never used menus - until now. I'm having some
trouble getting the hang of it. I'm using LC Community 6.1.0 on OSX 10.8.4 .
I'm simply trying to add a menu of my own to the mac menu bar with a
disabled item. I have made one with the Menu Builder in a new empty stack.
When I tick the Disabled box of an item using the Menu Builder, I'd like
to see it grayed-out in the menu when its pulled down. Instead, its
simply empty white space.
I have tried setting the text colors of the button that is the menu, using
the Project Browser but it doesn't seem to change anything.
What am I missing? Pointers to documentation gratefully accepted.
Cheer,
Jerry
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Re: Menu newbie confusion
Bugzilla # 0. Thats decimal. Really.
.Jerry
On Aug 18, 2013, at 8:02 PM, Jerry Jensen j...@jhj.com wrote:
Eureka! That works.
So the Menu Builder is in the same doghouse as the Geometry Manager...
Thanks a million,
Jerry
On Aug 18, 2013, at 5:06 PM, Kay C Lan lan.kc.macm...@gmail.com wrote:
There is something flaky with the Menu Builder
If you watch the Menu Buider you'll see for Menu Items it simply puts an
open bracket '(' before the Item Name. Why this is making the name
disappear and not come back I don't know, BUT if you manually or via script
simply add or remove the '(' the Item Name will gray as expected; at least
it does for me LC 6.1.1 rc 2 OS X 10.8.4
HTH
On Mon, Aug 19, 2013 at 6:25 AM, Jerry Jensen j...@jhj.com wrote:
In all my time with LC, I've never used menus - until now. I'm having some
trouble getting the hang of it. I'm using LC Community 6.1.0 on OSX 10.8.4 .
I'm simply trying to add a menu of my own to the mac menu bar with a
disabled item. I have made one with the Menu Builder in a new empty stack.
When I tick the Disabled box of an item using the Menu Builder, I'd like
to see it grayed-out in the menu when its pulled down. Instead, its
simply empty white space.
I have tried setting the text colors of the button that is the menu, using
the Project Browser but it doesn't seem to change anything.
What am I missing? Pointers to documentation gratefully accepted.
Cheer,
Jerry
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Re: Menu newbie confusion
Jerry- Sunday, August 18, 2013, 8:38:58 PM, you wrote: Bugzilla # 0. Thats decimal. Really. Put another quarter in. If you get two more, maybe it will roll over and you get a new game. -- -Mark Wieder mwie...@ahsoftware.net ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Menu newbie confusion
I'm chicken. If its Baudot it might go NULL and trigger a singularity. Jacque might want to try this for her sock. .Jerry On Aug 18, 2013, at 8:46 PM, Mark Wieder mwie...@ahsoftware.net wrote: Jerry- Sunday, August 18, 2013, 8:38:58 PM, you wrote: Bugzilla # 0. Thats decimal. Really. Put another quarter in. If you get two more, maybe it will roll over and you get a new game. -- -Mark Wieder mwie...@ahsoftware.net ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Menu newbie confusion
Jerry- Sunday, August 18, 2013, 9:07:30 PM, you wrote: If its Baudot it might go NULL and trigger a Is that Brigitte Baudot? -- -Mark Wieder mwie...@ahsoftware.net ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Menu newbie confusion
On Aug 18, 2013, at 9:57 PM, Mark Wieder mwie...@ahsoftware.net wrote: Jerry- Sunday, August 18, 2013, 9:07:30 PM, you wrote: If its Baudot it might go NULL and trigger a Is that Brigitte Baudot? Not for 5 bits. .Jerry ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Menu newbie confusion
Mark: *Is that Brigitte Baudot?* I hear she's running for office. On Sun, Aug 18, 2013 at 10:02 PM, Jerry Jensen j...@jhj.com wrote: On Aug 18, 2013, at 9:57 PM, Mark Wieder mwie...@ahsoftware.net wrote: Jerry- Sunday, August 18, 2013, 9:07:30 PM, you wrote: If its Baudot it might go NULL and trigger a Is that Brigitte Baudot? Not for 5 bits. .Jerry ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode -- Stephen Barncard San Francisco Ca. USA more about sqb http://www.google.com/profiles/sbarncar ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
