Re: LiveCode Server Turned To Molasses

[Peter W A Wood]

Hi Scott

One thing to check is if the machine has lots of "zombie" LiveCode processes 
just in case LiveCode is not terminating correctly.

Regards

Peter

On 23 Apr 2014, at 14:02, Scott Rossi wrote:

> Hi LC Server Gurus:
> 
> One day after getting an LC server-based form working, the response time
> of the server has suddenly decreased substantially.  I put up a simple one
> line script that returns the long time, and here it takes between 20 and
> 30 seconds to execute.  A simple HTML page with "hello world" responds
> immediately.
> 
> Is it possible that my repeated requests during testing have "stacked up"
> and bogged down the server? Is there some kind of reset and/or maintenance
> thing I can do?
> 
> Everything appeared to be running fine yesterday, but today things are
> unusuable.
> 
> Thanks for any suggestions.
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Scott Rossi
> Creative Director
> Tactile Media, UX/UI Design
> 
> 
> 
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Re: LiveCode Server Turned To Molasses

[Scott Rossi]

Hi Peter:

How is this check done?  The installation of LCserver is on a commercial
host.

And what would be the process to enable LC to terminate properly?

Thanks for your help.

Scott Rossi
Creative Director
Tactile Media, UX/UI Design




On 4/23/14 12:00 AM, "Peter W A Wood"  wrote:

>Hi Scott
>
>One thing to check is if the machine has lots of "zombie" LiveCode
>processes just in case LiveCode is not terminating correctly.
>
>Regards
>
>Peter
>
>On 23 Apr 2014, at 14:02, Scott Rossi wrote:
>
>> Hi LC Server Gurus:
>> 
>> One day after getting an LC server-based form working, the response time
>> of the server has suddenly decreased substantially.  I put up a simple
>>one
>> line script that returns the long time, and here it takes between 20 and
>> 30 seconds to execute.  A simple HTML page with "hello world" responds
>> immediately.
>> 
>> Is it possible that my repeated requests during testing have "stacked
>>up"
>> and bogged down the server? Is there some kind of reset and/or
>>maintenance
>> thing I can do?
>> 
>> Everything appeared to be running fine yesterday, but today things are
>> unusuable.
>> 
>> Thanks for any suggestions.
>> 
>> Regards,
>> 
>> Scott Rossi
>> Creative Director
>> Tactile Media, UX/UI Design
>> 
>> 
>> 
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Re: LiveCode Server Turned To Molasses

[Scott Rossi]

Well, after contacting DreamHost, the support dude said there were some
hung processes on the server and that they would reset it (he thought they
were PHP processes but wasn't sure).  Doing so fixed the problem, but I'm
worried something in my scripts or my setup contributed to the problem.
We'll see.

Regards,

Scott Rossi
Creative Director
Tactile Media, UX/UI Design




On 4/22/14 11:02 PM, "Scott Rossi"  wrote:

>Hi LC Server Gurus:
>
>One day after getting an LC server-based form working, the response time
>of the server has suddenly decreased substantially.  I put up a simple
>one 
>line script that returns the long time, and here it takes between 20 and
>30 seconds to execute.  A simple HTML page with "hello world" responds
>immediately.
>
>Is it possible that my repeated requests during testing have "stacked up"
>and bogged down the server? Is there some kind of reset and/or
>maintenance 
>thing I can do?
>
>Everything appeared to be running fine yesterday, but today things are
>unusuable.
>
>Thanks for any suggestions.
>
>Regards,
>
>Scott Rossi
>Creative Director
>Tactile Media, UX/UI Design
>



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Re: file checksums

[Martin Baxter]

On 23/04/14 01:38, Richard Gaskin wrote:
> I see a lot of sites that offer files to download also including an MD5
> value or other checksum, ostensibly so we can verify the integrity of
> the package before running it.
> 
> Sounds good, but if a hacker has sufficient control of a server to
> replace the package, would he not also be able to update the checksums
> displayed there to reflect those in his modified package?
> 
> I like the idea of providing checksums, but I'm having a hard time
> seeing the practical benefit.
> 
> What am I missing?
> 

Richard,

What you say is obviously true, there is no ultimate guarantee from
checksums.

The checksum is not useless though. It gives pretty good confidence that
the file didn't get altered in transit, whether by a network error, a
disk writing error, or by the intervention of a malcious actor as MITM
replacing the requested file with a doctored version of their own. It
may not provide ultimate trust but is better than no checks at all.

Some places sign their downloads with PGP, which in theory gives a
stronger guarantee of authenticity. However I think there are similar
issues with that. To verify it, you must install the public key of the
signer and assert (but on what basis?) that it is strongly trusted. Here
too, if the malicious actor can subvert both the download file and the
public key, the method fails. Most downloaders don't know anything about
the signer or have prior knowledge of his/her public key and may not see
anything amiss if they are somehow subverted.

It gets better I suppose once you have had a trusted key in your keyring
for a while and it has a good track record of vouching for software that
you have confidence in. However, if the key that you originally
installed and more or less blindly trusted was actually a fraud, then
you are in trouble.

Martin




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globalLoc returns wrong values!

[Tiemo Hollmann TB]

Hi,

With LC 6.5.2 on Windows 7 I am taking a screenshot from a rect like this:

   put globalLoc (the topleft of image "Image") into tTopLeft

   put globalLoc (the bottomright of image "Image") into tBotRight

   put tTopLeft & "," & tBotRight into tRectSnap

   export snapshot from rect tRectSnap to tScreenshot as PNG

This works fine, beside when the user changes the textsize to 150% in his
display settings. Then the snapshot rect is shifted and the user gets wrong
content in his snapshot.

 

Has anybody stumpled upon this issue yet and has found a workaround for
this? Perhaps checking a windows system setting and recalculating the rect?

 

I know, you can change the textsize on mac too, but that's really only the
TEXT size and that doesn't bother my LC program. On windows this option is
actually not only the text size, but the whole screen is resized. Is there
something similar on Mac, what could cause a similar problem, what I didn't
find yet?

 

Thanks for any ideas

 

Tiemo

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AW: globalLoc returns wrong values!

[Tiemo Hollmann TB]

In my case I think I can workaround this issue by changing my snapshot
parameter from "rect" to "obj", when changing some more lines around.
But I wonder what to do, when you need the "rect"
Tiemo

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Auftrag
> von Tiemo Hollmann TB
> Gesendet: Mittwoch, 23. April 2014 11:15
> An: 'How to use LiveCode'
> Betreff: globalLoc returns wrong values!
> 
> Hi,
> 
> With LC 6.5.2 on Windows 7 I am taking a screenshot from a rect like this:
> 
>put globalLoc (the topleft of image "Image") into tTopLeft
> 
>put globalLoc (the bottomright of image "Image") into tBotRight
> 
>put tTopLeft & "," & tBotRight into tRectSnap
> 
>export snapshot from rect tRectSnap to tScreenshot as PNG
> 
> This works fine, beside when the user changes the textsize to 150% in his
> display settings. Then the snapshot rect is shifted and the user gets
wrong
> content in his snapshot.
> 
> 
> 
> Has anybody stumpled upon this issue yet and has found a workaround for
this?
> Perhaps checking a windows system setting and recalculating the rect?
> 
> 
> 
> I know, you can change the textsize on mac too, but that's really only the
> TEXT size and that doesn't bother my LC program. On windows this option is
> actually not only the text size, but the whole screen is resized. Is there
> something similar on Mac, what could cause a similar problem, what I
didn't
> find yet?
> 
> 
> 
> Thanks for any ideas
> 
> 
> 
> Tiemo
> 
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Re: Installer Maker Spring Offer

[Mark Schonewille]

Hello,

Today is the last day when you can take advantage of the Installer Maker 
Spring Offer. We are offering everyone who bought a license in the past 
a one-time opportunity to upgrade this license at the upgrade price of € 
16,95, even if your license has expired.


Is your license over a year old? For a limited time, you can now upgrade 
your license to the latest version for only € 16,95 instead of the 
normal price of € 39,00. This offer is available until Wednesday 23rd 
April 2014.


Installer Maker

Installer Maker is a simple tool to create installers for Windows and 
Mac OS X. Installer Maker comes in two editions: a LiveCode plug-in and 
a standalone. The plug-in can be used with the commercial edition of 
LiveCode only, while the standalone version can be used in combination 
with any edition of LiveCode , Revolution and MetaCard, as well as 
RealStudio/Xojo, SuperCard, Prezi, HyperStudio etc.


Upgrading

Normally, licenses cost 39 euro with free updates during the first 3 
months after purchase. Upgrades are available for € 16,95 during one 
year after purchase. Just for one week, we allow everyone to upgrade his 
or her license at the discounted upgrade price.


To get a new license, go to http://qery.us/49n (plug-in) or 
http://qery.us/49o (standalone) and enter your license key at the bottom 
of the page. The page will load again and if you scroll to the bottom of 
the page again, you will now be able to buy a new license at the 
discount price. From there, just follow PayPal's instructions. Shortly 
after purchase, you will first receive an auto-reply. Your license 
follows within 24 hours.


Why Upgrade?

Perhaps you didn't upgrade in the past, because you were missing some 
essential features? Download the Read Me file from http://qery.us/49m 
(PDF) and check out the history. You'll see that many features have been 
added during the past year. Go to http://qery.us/49n to download the 
plug-in or to http://qery.us/49o to download the standalone version.


Did you use the plug-in edition with a commercial version of LiveCode 
and are you moving to the open-source edition? Then download the 
standalone version. You can always switch from the plug-in edition and 
back or use them combined.


--
Best regards,

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Installer Maker for LiveCode:
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Re: Installer Maker Spring Offer

[Dirk prive]

Thanks for reminding me. I almost forgot. Just ordered.

Have a nice day.


On Wed, Apr 23, 2014 at 1:19 PM, Mark Schonewille <
m.schonewi...@economy-x-talk.com> wrote:

> Hello,
>
> Today is the last day when you can take advantage of the Installer Maker
> Spring Offer. We are offering everyone who bought a license in the past a
> one-time opportunity to upgrade this license at the upgrade price of €
> 16,95, even if your license has expired.
>
>
> Is your license over a year old? For a limited time, you can now upgrade
> your license to the latest version for only € 16,95 instead of the normal
> price of € 39,00. This offer is available until Wednesday 23rd April 2014.
>
> Installer Maker
>
> Installer Maker is a simple tool to create installers for Windows and Mac
> OS X. Installer Maker comes in two editions: a LiveCode plug-in and a
> standalone. The plug-in can be used with the commercial edition of LiveCode
> only, while the standalone version can be used in combination with any
> edition of LiveCode , Revolution and MetaCard, as well as RealStudio/Xojo,
> SuperCard, Prezi, HyperStudio etc.
>
> Upgrading
>
> Normally, licenses cost 39 euro with free updates during the first 3
> months after purchase. Upgrades are available for € 16,95 during one year
> after purchase. Just for one week, we allow everyone to upgrade his or her
> license at the discounted upgrade price.
>
> To get a new license, go to http://qery.us/49n (plug-in) or
> http://qery.us/49o (standalone) and enter your license key at the bottom
> of the page. The page will load again and if you scroll to the bottom of
> the page again, you will now be able to buy a new license at the discount
> price. From there, just follow PayPal's instructions. Shortly after
> purchase, you will first receive an auto-reply. Your license follows within
> 24 hours.
>
> Why Upgrade?
>
> Perhaps you didn't upgrade in the past, because you were missing some
> essential features? Download the Read Me file from http://qery.us/49m(PDF) 
> and check out the history. You'll see that many features have been
> added during the past year. Go to http://qery.us/49n to download the
> plug-in or to http://qery.us/49o to download the standalone version.
>
> Did you use the plug-in edition with a commercial version of LiveCode and
> are you moving to the open-source edition? Then download the standalone
> version. You can always switch from the plug-in edition and back or use
> them combined.
>
> --
> Best regards,
>
> Mark Schonewille
>
> Economy-x-Talk Consulting and Software Engineering
> Homepage: http://economy-x-talk.com
> Twitter: http://twitter.com/xtalkprogrammer
> KvK: 50277553
>
> Installer Maker for LiveCode:
> http://qery.us/468
>
> Buy my new book "Programming LiveCode for the Real Beginner"
> http://qery.us/3fi
>
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> https://www.facebook.com/groups/runrev/
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Re: globalLoc returns wrong values!

[Trevor DeVore]

On Wed, Apr 23, 2014 at 5:14 AM, Tiemo Hollmann TB wrote:

>
> With LC 6.5.2 on Windows 7 I am taking a screenshot from a rect like this:
>
>put globalLoc (the topleft of image "Image") into tTopLeft
>
>put globalLoc (the bottomright of image "Image") into tBotRight
>
>put tTopLeft & "," & tBotRight into tRectSnap
>
>export snapshot from rect tRectSnap to tScreenshot as PNG
>
> This works fine, beside when the user changes the textsize to 150% in his
> display settings. Then the snapshot rect is shifted and the user gets wrong
> content in his snapshot.
>

When the Windows system has scaling set to >= 150% then Windows is in
high-dpi mode. LiveCode 6.5.2 does not support this mode which is why you
see what you are seeing. LiveCode 6.6 does support high-dpi on the desktop
and should behave properly. 6.6 has some other issues with high-dpi (e.g.
text rendering and tooltips), however, and can't be used just yet. Watch
for the next 6.6.2 update and try that out.

-- 
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Blue Mango Learning Systems
www.screensteps.com-www.clarify-it.com
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How to open a stack at a custom position without flipping?

[Tiemo Hollmann TB]

Hello,

I would like to open my stack window at the last screen position. Therefore
I store the last position in a ini file, read it in preopenstack at set the
window to the last position in my preopenstack handler. This works so far,
but I have to gotchas.

1.   Though I set a screenlock at the beginning of preopenstack, the
main window with a white/default background opens first at "a standard
position" and flips afterwords to my wanted position. How can I force the
window to open directly at my ini position?

2.   Because there are some other inits in the preopen handler, it takes
about a second to open the first card with content. For this gap, between
opening the first window with the default background and showing my content,
I would like to show a splash screen, but all my attempts showing an image
in preopenstack or openstack or opencard  don't seem to work. The splash
image always shows up, when all other stuff also is ready.

Probably I only have the wrong sequence of statements, but what am I doing
wrong?

Thanks for any ideas

Tiemo

 

 

 

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HTPPS problem with a web service

[David Bovill]

I'm having an https problem with a RESTful web service I am calling. Here
is the url (which works in the browser but not from the IDE):

https://api.dreamhost.com/?key=6SHU5P2HLDAYECUM&cmd=user-list_users_no_pw&unique_id=4082432&format=perl


I've tried libUrlSetSSLVerificition false and made a stab at debugging it.
I get the following error:

httpproxyforurl for host 'api.dreamhost.com':
> Proxy for URL:
> socket selected: api.dreamhost.com:443|6924
> GET
> /?key=6SHU5P2HLDAYECUM&cmd=user-list_users_no_pw&unique_id=4082432&format=perl
> HTTP/1.1
> Host: api.dreamhost.com
> User-Agent: curl/7.30.0
> Accept: */*
> socket timeout api.dreamhost.com:443|6924


And the following headers sent (as you can see I tried changing the user
agent as curl works fine):

GET
> /?key=6SHU5P2HLDAYECUM&cmd=user-list_users_no_pw&unique_id=4082432&format=perl
> HTTP/1.1
> Host: api.dreamhost.com
> User-Agent: curl/7.30.0
> Accept: */*
>

And returned:


> HTTP/1.1 200 OK
> Set-Cookie: 60gpBAK=R1224191420; path=/; expires=Mon, 07-Apr-2014 18:14:08
> GMT
> Date: Mon, 07 Apr 2014 17:06:53 GMT
> Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8
> Transfer-Encoding: chunked
> Connection: keep-alive
> Set-Cookie: 60gp=R477302024; path=/; expires=Mon, 07-Apr-2014 18:08:19 GMT
> Server: Apache
> X-Powered-By: PHP/5.2.17
> Vary: Cookie,Accept-Encoding
> Composed-By: SPIP 2.1.24 @ www.spip.net + images(1.0.1),
> msie_compat(1.0.0), porte_plume(1.7.9), safehtml(1.3.7), vertebres(1.0.0),
> guestbook(2.22), compresseur(1.0.2)
> X-Spip-Cache: 86400
> Last-Modified: Mon, 07 Apr 2014 17:06:53 GMT


Any thoughts?
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AW: globalLoc returns wrong values!

[Tiemo Hollmann TB]

I didn't knew, that 150% = high-dpi mode, that’s good to know
Thanks for the info
Tiemo

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Auftrag
> von Trevor DeVore
> Gesendet: Mittwoch, 23. April 2014 14:17
> An: How to use LiveCode
> Betreff: Re: globalLoc returns wrong values!
> 
> On Wed, Apr 23, 2014 at 5:14 AM, Tiemo Hollmann TB
wrote:
> 
> >
> > With LC 6.5.2 on Windows 7 I am taking a screenshot from a rect like
this:
> >
> >put globalLoc (the topleft of image "Image") into tTopLeft
> >
> >put globalLoc (the bottomright of image "Image") into tBotRight
> >
> >put tTopLeft & "," & tBotRight into tRectSnap
> >
> >export snapshot from rect tRectSnap to tScreenshot as PNG
> >
> > This works fine, beside when the user changes the textsize to 150% in
> > his display settings. Then the snapshot rect is shifted and the user
> > gets wrong content in his snapshot.
> >
> 
> When the Windows system has scaling set to >= 150% then Windows is in
high-dpi
> mode. LiveCode 6.5.2 does not support this mode which is why you see what
you
> are seeing. LiveCode 6.6 does support high-dpi on the desktop and should
> behave properly. 6.6 has some other issues with high-dpi (e.g.
> text rendering and tooltips), however, and can't be used just yet. Watch
for
> the next 6.6.2 update and try that out.
> 
> --
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> Blue Mango Learning Systems
> www.screensteps.com-www.clarify-it.com
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Re: LiveCode Server Turned To Molasses

[Peter W A Wood]

Hi Scott

Sorry that I didn't reply earlier, I had to go out after sending the message. 
The way to check which processes are running is to use the "ps" command. I'm 
pretty certain that on a shared host you'll only be able to see your own 
processes (but one of the Linux gurus should be able to confirm or deny that).

I ran this script on on-rev:

 

(Yes that is the whole script no HTML).

I got this output:

PID TTY TIME CMD 29690 ? 00:00:00 livecode-server 29694 ? 00:00:00 sh 29695 ? 
00:00:00 ps

Which would look like this with linefeeds:

PID TTY TIME CMD 
29690 ? 00:00:00 livecode-server
29694 ? 00:00:00 sh 
29695 ? 00:00:00 ps

As far as I understand the -aux option to ps should show all the processes 
running on the machine but as it is a shared host I only get to see my 
processes. The three processes listed are the livecode server, the shell and 
the ps command. Which looks fine. If there were any hung LiveCode processes 
they would show up in the list.

LiveCode might not terminate properly if a script crashes or goes into an 
infinite loop. All you can do is kill the process to clear it (and solve the 
bug so it doesn't happen again).

Hope this belatedly helps.

Regards

Peter

PS I saw from your later message that the problem was caused by another user 
and is now fixed.

On 23 Apr 2014, at 15:12, Scott Rossi wrote:

> Hi Peter:
> 
> How is this check done?  The installation of LCserver is on a commercial
> host.
> 
> And what would be the process to enable LC to terminate properly?
> 
> Thanks for your help.
> 
> Scott Rossi
> Creative Director
> Tactile Media, UX/UI Design
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On 4/23/14 12:00 AM, "Peter W A Wood"  wrote:
> 
>> Hi Scott
>> 
>> One thing to check is if the machine has lots of "zombie" LiveCode
>> processes just in case LiveCode is not terminating correctly.
>> 
>> Regards
>> 
>> Peter
>> 
>> On 23 Apr 2014, at 14:02, Scott Rossi wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi LC Server Gurus:
>>> 
>>> One day after getting an LC server-based form working, the response time
>>> of the server has suddenly decreased substantially.  I put up a simple
>>> one
>>> line script that returns the long time, and here it takes between 20 and
>>> 30 seconds to execute.  A simple HTML page with "hello world" responds
>>> immediately.
>>> 
>>> Is it possible that my repeated requests during testing have "stacked
>>> up"
>>> and bogged down the server? Is there some kind of reset and/or
>>> maintenance
>>> thing I can do?
>>> 
>>> Everything appeared to be running fine yesterday, but today things are
>>> unusuable.
>>> 
>>> Thanks for any suggestions.
>>> 
>>> Regards,
>>> 
>>> Scott Rossi
>>> Creative Director
>>> Tactile Media, UX/UI Design
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
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Re: How to open a stack at a custom position without flipping?

[Dave Kilroy]

Hi Tiemo

For your first issue I would so something like "set the visible of me to
false" early on in your preOpenStack handler, and once you were sure
everything was in the right place do a "set the visible of me to true"

Regarding your second issue can you not populate your fields inside a
preOpenCard handler? If not then you could make another card containing your
splash image (or some other thing) the first card in your stack and then
have have something in your openCard handler to go to the second card after
a second or two...



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Re: HTPPS problem with a web service

[Peter W A Wood]

David

This worked for me in the message box:

Command:

put URL 
"https://api.dreamhost.com/?key=6SHU5P2HLDAYECUM&cmd=user-list_users_no_pw&unique_id=4082432&format=perl";

Output:

$result = {
'data' => 'unique_id_already_used',
'result' => 'error'
  };

I haven't been keeping up to-date so I'm still running LiveCode 6.5.2 under OS 
X 10.7.5

Regards

Peter


On 23 Apr 2014, at 20:35, David Bovill wrote:

> I'm having an https problem with a RESTful web service I am calling. Here
> is the url (which works in the browser but not from the IDE):
> 
> https://api.dreamhost.com/?key=6SHU5P2HLDAYECUM&cmd=user-list_users_no_pw&unique_id=4082432&format=perl
> 
> 
> I've tried libUrlSetSSLVerificition false and made a stab at debugging it.
> I get the following error:
> 
> httpproxyforurl for host 'api.dreamhost.com':
>> Proxy for URL:
>> socket selected: api.dreamhost.com:443|6924
>> GET
>> /?key=6SHU5P2HLDAYECUM&cmd=user-list_users_no_pw&unique_id=4082432&format=perl
>> HTTP/1.1
>> Host: api.dreamhost.com
>> User-Agent: curl/7.30.0
>> Accept: */*
>> socket timeout api.dreamhost.com:443|6924
> 
> 
> And the following headers sent (as you can see I tried changing the user
> agent as curl works fine):
> 
> GET
>> /?key=6SHU5P2HLDAYECUM&cmd=user-list_users_no_pw&unique_id=4082432&format=perl
>> HTTP/1.1
>> Host: api.dreamhost.com
>> User-Agent: curl/7.30.0
>> Accept: */*
>> 
> 
> And returned:
> 
> 
>> HTTP/1.1 200 OK
>> Set-Cookie: 60gpBAK=R1224191420; path=/; expires=Mon, 07-Apr-2014 18:14:08
>> GMT
>> Date: Mon, 07 Apr 2014 17:06:53 GMT
>> Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8
>> Transfer-Encoding: chunked
>> Connection: keep-alive
>> Set-Cookie: 60gp=R477302024; path=/; expires=Mon, 07-Apr-2014 18:08:19 GMT
>> Server: Apache
>> X-Powered-By: PHP/5.2.17
>> Vary: Cookie,Accept-Encoding
>> Composed-By: SPIP 2.1.24 @ www.spip.net + images(1.0.1),
>> msie_compat(1.0.0), porte_plume(1.7.9), safehtml(1.3.7), vertebres(1.0.0),
>> guestbook(2.22), compresseur(1.0.2)
>> X-Spip-Cache: 86400
>> Last-Modified: Mon, 07 Apr 2014 17:06:53 GMT
> 
> 
> Any thoughts?
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Re: MS SQL

[Peter Haworth]

In gmail, you can fix that by using the "Paste and match style" option on
the edit menu.

Pete
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On Apr 22, 2014 7:34 PM, "J. Landman Gay"  wrote:

> On 4/22/14, 6:49 PM, Kay C Lan wrote:
>
>> I don't know if it's just your email client but what I'm seeing is an
>> asterisk * around the words get, put and return which shouldn't be there.
>>
>
> That happens to all keywords when a colorized script is copied from the
> script editor and pasted into a text-only email list. I see it here all the
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Populating a DataGrid on a card problem

[Mark Stuart]

Hi all, 
This script: 
   set the dgText[false] of grp "dgVariables" of cd "Variables" to empty 

throws this error: 
 
Script compile error: 
Error description: round: bad parameter 
 

And this script throws the same error: 
   put false into HasHeaders 
   set the dgText[HasHeaders] of grp "dgVariables" of cd "Variables" to
tData 


At first run of the script it throws the error, but subsequent times running
it, it works. :(
What do I have wrong in the script? 



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Printing a RTF file saved as a custom properties of a stack

[Charles Szasz]

I was able to save a template document as a RTF as a custom properties of a 
stack.  I want to retrieve the template to print it.  I can retrieve the file 
as a variable (see script below) but I do not know how to script printing it as 
a RTF.  Any suggestions?

  
  set the itemdelimiter to "/"
  put the uRtFile of stack “My stack" into tRTFdata

Charles Szasz
csz...@mac.com





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[Enhancement Request] Open and BackUp in LiveCode DP and RC

[Alejandro Tejada]

Hi All,

Just added this enhancement request:

http://quality.runrev.com/show_bug.cgi?id=12279


Every announcement of a new LiveCode version includes this message:

WARNING: this is not a stable release. Please ensure you back up your stacks
before testing them.

RunRev could add the following functionality to the File menu in the IDE:

Open and Backup...

This single menu option will:
1) create a zipped or gzipped file of the selected stack and
2) open the stack

The name of every zipped or gzipped stack could include the seconds appended
to the filename.

http://docs.runrev.com/Function/seconds


Please, add your own comments, suggestions and ideas.
Thanks in advance!

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Re: [Enhancement Request] Open and BackUp in LiveCode DP and RC

[Richard Gaskin]

Stacks can be opened many ways.  In most of my projects I only manually 
open one stack in the IDE, and the scripts in that stack may load as 
many as a dozen others.


To satisfy the request the engine would have to intercept all attempts 
to open stacks, or maybe just the save command, and then intervene based 
on the value of some flag.


Ouch.  Sounds like a lot of work for the team, and one more deep task 
for all of us to test.


Seems simpler to just make a copy of your work folder before using a 
pre-release build.  Leaving us in control is the surest way to protect 
all possible ways a stack file can be altered.


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Re: file checksums

[Alejandro Tejada]

How difficult could be to create a custom file (using a stack as basis)
that opens only within a custom player?

This custom file could provide to the custom player an encrypted
checksum. 

Could this actually be more secure?


Al



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Re: Reference Material Discussion Application Architecture Strategies

[prothero]

Michael:
I was wrong. All I have to do to activate a substack is just
 start using stack theLibStackName
Bill

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On Apr 20, 2014, at 9:35 AM, Michael Doub  wrote:

> My coding style has evolved to trying to put code in Libraries, Stack and 
> Cards.  I only put stubs that call other handlers in the objects themselves.  
> This is the code organization part.   
> 
> I was putting my library stacks in as substacks and when I started seeing the 
> naming conflict messages I started looking into where these should go.   I 
> always seemed to have problems with “start using” unless the stack was 
> already in memory, so I still feel that I am missing something relating to 
> the basics loading stacks. 
> 
> Bill, are you building your stand alone yet?  This is where I really started 
> to ask questions.  Why is there an option to move substacks into individual 
> stacks?  When I made everything substacks I really didn’t think too much 
> about the standalone builder.  Now that I have both I feel I need to 
> understand what is going on and why.
> 
> -= Mike
> 
> 
> On Apr 19, 2014, at 6:01 PM, Earthednet-wp  wrote:
> 
>> Michael,
>> Thank you for asking this question. There is certainly a need for this in 
>> the community. I am also new to livecode and am converting a rather large 
>> app from Director. I am building a cross platform app, and perhaps a mobile 
>> version later. Currently I am putting most of my code in the stack scripts 
>> of substacks, organized roughly by broad functionality. I started with 
>> external stacks that I loaded at runtime, but found it much easier to do 
>> script searches if they were substacks. All code is in stack scripts. If I 
>> need these pieces for other projects, I can always separate them. That's as 
>> far as I've gotten so far. I can imagine getting a large collection of 
>> substacks by the time the project is completed. So far all of my substack 
>> handlers are able to seamlessly call stack handlers in other substacks, 
>> which is nice. I wonder if there are consequences to this approach.
>> 
>> One of the big challenges is keeping track of all of the handlers and 
>> whether their location in the hierarchy requires special treatment (like a 
>> dispatch command). With all of my handlers in stack scripts, I don't have to 
>> do this.
>> 
>> I'd be very interested in hearing how others organize their projects.
>> Bill
>> 
>> William Prothero
>> http://es.earthednet.org
>> 
>>> On Apr 19, 2014, at 2:04 PM, Michael Doub  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Is anyone aware of any reference material that discusses strategies for 
>>> architecting your application with the livecode components and their 
>>> implications with the 
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Re: [Enhancement Request] Open and BackUp in LiveCode DP and RC

[Alejandro Tejada]

Then, a plug-in stack would do.

Does LiveCode includes the Engine version in each saved stack?

http://docs.runrev.com/Function/version
http://docs.runrev.com/Property/stackFileVersion

If this is true, then LiveCode could provide a warning
when developers open a stack created with a different
engine version and offers to create a backup.

Just a thought...

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Re: [Enhancement Request] Open and BackUp in LiveCode DP and RC

[Richmond]

On 23/04/14 22:22, Alejandro Tejada wrote:

Hi All,

Just added this enhancement request:

http://quality.runrev.com/show_bug.cgi?id=12279


Every announcement of a new LiveCode version includes this message:

WARNING: this is not a stable release. Please ensure you back up your stacks
before testing them.

RunRev could add the following functionality to the File menu in the IDE:

Open and Backup...

This single menu option will:
1) create a zipped or gzipped file of the selected stack and
2) open the stack

The name of every zipped or gzipped stack could include the seconds appended
to the filename.

http://docs.runrev.com/Function/seconds


Please, add your own comments, suggestions and ideas.
Thanks in advance!

Al




Not sure about that one; after all, unlike Hypercard (which had no SAVE 
menu item because every action

was saved as one went along), one can choose when to save stacks.

Might it not be better (???) to have either of these options instead:

1. AutoSave; set in the Preferences, could have times like Office suites.

2. SAVE AS with TIME MARKER.

Richmond.

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Re: Reference Material Discussion Application Architecture Strategies

[Alejandro Tejada]

Does exists a tutorial explaining How To implement MVC
using LiveCode?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Model%E2%80%93view%E2%80%93controller

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Re: Reference Material Discussion Application Architecture Strategies

[Andrew Kluthe]

Andre Garzia did a talk on it at runrev live last year didn't he? I
remember watching it and starting to reorganize one of my applications the
next day. Basically, treat ui stacks as view, put all your business logic
that can be separated into library stacks and use a pub-sub to lessen the
burden. It made a lot more sense as far as maintainability goes for me.




On Wed, Apr 23, 2014 at 3:17 PM, Alejandro Tejada wrote:

> Does exists a tutorial explaining How To implement MVC
> using LiveCode?
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Model%E2%80%93view%E2%80%93controller
>
> Al
>
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Re: Printing a RTF file saved as a custom properties of a stack

[stephen barncard]

Check out RTFText in the docs.

I assume you created the template in a livecode field obtained the RTFText
of the field into a variable, then set a custom prop to that data, right?

then just get the data from the custom property and set the RTFText of a
field to it.

Livecode now tracks RTF data created in Textedit pretty accurately. It
didn't used to work as well.


On Wed, Apr 23, 2014 at 12:16 PM, Charles Szasz  wrote:

> I was able to save a template document as a RTF as a custom properties of
> a stack.  I want to retrieve the template to print it.  I can retrieve the
> file as a variable (see script below) but I do not know how to script
> printing it as a RTF.  Any suggestions?
>
>
>   set the itemdelimiter to "/"
>   put the uRtFile of stack “My stack" into tRTFdata
>
> Charles Szasz
> csz...@mac.com
>



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Re: [Enhancement Request] Open and BackUp in LiveCode DP and RC

[Richmond]

On 23/04/14 23:04, Alejandro Tejada wrote:

Then, a plug-in stack would do.

Does LiveCode includes the Engine version in each saved stack?

http://docs.runrev.com/Function/version
http://docs.runrev.com/Property/stackFileVersion

If this is true, then LiveCode could provide a warning
when developers open a stack created with a different
engine version and offers to create a backup.

Just a thought...

Al




How about something like this:

on saveStackRequest
   put (the short name of this stack & the version) into NOM
   put NOM into fld "NOM"
   set the name of this stack to NOM
   pass saveStackRequest
end saveStackRequest

Certainly works for me.

Richmond.

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Re: Printing a RTF file saved as a custom properties of a stack

[stephen barncard]

On Wed, Apr 23, 2014 at 12:16 PM, Charles Szasz  wrote:

>  I can retrieve the file as a variable (see script below) but I do not
> know how to script printing it as a RTF.  Any suggestions?


Ok, I hope I've been understanding that your stumbling block was using RTF
text.

Or do you know how to handle RTFText and was it PRINTING that RTF code in
Livecode a problem?

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Re: [Enhancement Request] Open and BackUp in LiveCode DP and RC

[Alejandro Tejada]

Hi Richmond,


Richmond Mathewson-2 wrote
> How about something like this:
> 
> on saveStackRequest
> put (the short name of this stack & the version) into NOM
> put NOM into fld "NOM"
> set the name of this stack to NOM
> pass saveStackRequest
> end saveStackRequest
> 
> Certainly works for me.

Where do you put this handler?
In a frontscript or replacing the IDE original handler?

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Re: MS SQL

[Rodney Green]

I turned on tracing in the odbc driver and I can see field names in the
data. So I'm assuming the query is working. But still can't figure out why
LC is hanging. I have database checked in the stand alone settings, not
sure if this matters while in LC. Any ideas how I can track down why LC is
hanging?


On Wed, Apr 23, 2014 at 10:13 AM, Peter Haworth  wrote:

> In gmail, you can fix that by using the "Paste and match style" option on
> the edit menu.
>
> Pete
> lcSQL Software
> On Apr 22, 2014 7:34 PM, "J. Landman Gay" 
> wrote:
>
> > On 4/22/14, 6:49 PM, Kay C Lan wrote:
> >
> >> I don't know if it's just your email client but what I'm seeing is an
> >> asterisk * around the words get, put and return which shouldn't be
> there.
> >>
> >
> > That happens to all keywords when a colorized script is copied from the
> > script editor and pasted into a text-only email list. I see it here all
> the
> > time.
> >
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Using Profiles

[Peter Haworth]

I get the idea from the list archives that profiles are about at the same
level of reliability as the Geometry Manager but the posts are a couple of
years old or more so hoping things may have improved.

I set up a really simple test:

1. Created a label control with its contents set to "Red"

2. In the Property Inspector palette for the label, created a profile named
"prFrench"

3. Created a text property of prFrench with the value "Rouge".  It ended up
as an htmltext property which is strange - if you don't want me to use
"text" then don't include it in the dropdown list of properties.

4. In the message box: set the profile of selobj() to "prFrench".  Nothing
happened, the label still showed "Red" as its contents.

5. Tried the same thing in a preOpenCard handler, same result.

5. Clicked the prFrench profile in the Property Inspector palette and the
label changed to "Rouge".  Clicked the Master profile and it changed back
to "Red".

So maybe Profiles are still broken, or maybe I missed a step somewhere?

Aside from that, can Profiles handle unicode?

Pete
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SQLiteAdmin 
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Re: LiveCode Server Turned To Molasses

[Alejandro Tejada]

Peter W A Wood wrote
> One thing to check is if the machine has lots of
> "zombie" LiveCode processes just in case LiveCode
> is not terminating correctly.

This is exactly what I noticed here, but I could
not create a recipe to catch this bug...


Al





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Re: file checksums

[Paul Dupuis]

On 4/22/2014 8:38 PM, Richard Gaskin wrote:
>
> What am I missing?
>
 Not much.

If a website is hacked then the file contents and posted checksum can be
changed and then, as you noted, the checksum is useless as a form of
security.

Checksums were originally intended for file integrity security for "man
in the middle" style hacks - where the file transfer was intercepted or
spoofed. The checksum served to provide a verification that the file
received, is in fact the file you requested and was not tampered with in
transmission. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File_verification

Practically speaking, I think with all the exploits and vulnerabilities
(especially via social engineering, i.e. phishing, etc.), that gaining
access to a target server is potentially easier these days that
man-in-the-middle style attacks, so I think your are 100% correct in
questioning that checksums value is not what it once was.

Paul Dupuis
Researchware

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Re: Printing a RTF file saved as a custom properties of a stack

[Charles Szasz]

Stephen,

I created a Rtf document using TextEdit and save it as a Rtf.  Then I 
successfully created a custom property and programmatically store the Rft as a 
custom property.  I then set up a field "import" in a new substack of my 
program. I then try the following script:

set the itemdelimiter to "/"
   put the uRtFile of stack “myProgram" into tRTFdata --> 7-1-11 Changed 
uRtFile from card index to stack!!
   
   
   open printing with dialog
   
   if the result = "cancel" then exit to top
   
   set the invisible of stack "printStack2" to true
   go to card "printCard" of stack "printStack2"
   
   set the RTFText of field "input" of card "printCard" of stack "printStack2" 
to the clipboardData["rtf"]
   
   
   put tRTFdata into field "input" of card "printCard" of stack "printStack2"
   
   print card "printCard" of stack "printStack2"
   
   close printing

In the print preview on my Mac, I can see the Rtf “coding” and not the nicely 
formatted text document I wanted.


Charles Szasz
csz...@mac.com





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Re: Email Using LiveCode Server?

[Michael Doub]

I am using postmark for both sending and receiving emails.   Works great for me.

-= Mike



constant APIKEY = “your_key_goes_here"
constant API_URL = "https://api.postmarkapp.com/email";

--http://developer.postmarkapp.com/developer-build.html For addtional API 
Information

function libPostmark_SendEmail pMessageJSON
   set the httpHeaders to "Accept: application/json" & return \ 
 & "Content-Type: application/json" & return \
 & "X-Postmark-Server-Token: " & APIKEY
   post pMessageJSON to API_URL
   return it
end libPostmark_SendEmail


On Apr 22, 2014, at 11:54 PM, stephen barncard 
 wrote:

> On Tue, Apr 22, 2014 at 7:26 PM, Scott Morrow
> wrote:
> 
>> I was working something similar.
>> —
>> Scott Morrow
>> 
> 
> I was ready to kluge something with a php/livecode hybrid setup.
> 
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Re: Using Profiles

[Alejandro Tejada]

What properties could we change using profiles?

Could we change all properties of each object inside a group?
(like changing geometry for different resolutions and stacks orientations)

Could we change the points, ink and fillgradient of a graphic?
(like frames of an animation)

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Re: Using Profiles

[Peter Haworth]

I believe you can change any built-in property but I'm just starting to
learn about profiles so could be wrong.

Pete
lcSQL Software 
Home of lcStackBrowser  and
SQLiteAdmin 


On Wed, Apr 23, 2014 at 3:12 PM, Alejandro Tejada wrote:

> What properties could we change using profiles?
>
> Could we change all properties of each object inside a group?
> (like changing geometry for different resolutions and stacks orientations)
>
> Could we change the points, ink and fillgradient of a graphic?
> (like frames of an animation)
>
> Al
>
>
>
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Re: MS SQL

[Peter Haworth]

That seems strange - I wouldn't expect to see field names, just the data in
them.  What version of LC are you using?  Might be time to enter a bug
report.

Pete
lcSQL Software 
Home of lcStackBrowser  and
SQLiteAdmin 


On Wed, Apr 23, 2014 at 2:47 PM, Rodney Green wrote:

> I turned on tracing in the odbc driver and I can see field names in the
> data. So I'm assuming the query is working. But still can't figure out why
> LC is hanging. I have database checked in the stand alone settings, not
> sure if this matters while in LC. Any ideas how I can track down why LC is
> hanging?
>
>
> On Wed, Apr 23, 2014 at 10:13 AM, Peter Haworth  wrote:
>
> > In gmail, you can fix that by using the "Paste and match style" option on
> > the edit menu.
> >
> > Pete
> > lcSQL Software
> > On Apr 22, 2014 7:34 PM, "J. Landman Gay" 
> > wrote:
> >
> > > On 4/22/14, 6:49 PM, Kay C Lan wrote:
> > >
> > >> I don't know if it's just your email client but what I'm seeing is an
> > >> asterisk * around the words get, put and return which shouldn't be
> > there.
> > >>
> > >
> > > That happens to all keywords when a colorized script is copied from the
> > > script editor and pasted into a text-only email list. I see it here all
> > the
> > > time.
> > >
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playing an mp3 file

[larry]

I know I can play a .wav file without having to use a player.

But I want to play a .mp3 file and for that I think I have to use a player, 
right?

And if I do use a player to play an mp3 file, then build my app as a standalone 
for Windows, do I need to include anything in the app?  I mean, if the user 
doesn't have Quicktime, will they still be able to play the mp3 file?

TIA
Larry
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Re: Installer Maker Spring Offer

[Mark Schonewille]

Hi,

I've received an e-mail with some questions about when the offer 
finishes exactly. I thought it would be finished by now (24th April, 
00:00h) but I'll keep the sale going until tomorrow. By doing so, I'll 
be sure that everyone who planned to buy a license on Wedneday, can 
actually do this while it is still Wednesday in his her her time zone.


--
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KvK: 50277553

Installer Maker for LiveCode:
http://qery.us/468

Buy my new book "Programming LiveCode for the Real Beginner" 
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On 4/23/2014 13:19, Mark Schonewille wrote:

Hello,

Today is the last day when you can take advantage of the Installer Maker
Spring Offer. We are offering everyone who bought a license in the past
a one-time opportunity to upgrade this license at the upgrade price of €
16,95, even if your license has expired.

Is your license over a year old? For a limited time, you can now upgrade
your license to the latest version for only € 16,95 instead of the
normal price of € 39,00. This offer is available until Wednesday 23rd
April 2014.

Installer Maker

Installer Maker is a simple tool to create installers for Windows and
Mac OS X. Installer Maker comes in two editions: a LiveCode plug-in and
a standalone. The plug-in can be used with the commercial edition of
LiveCode only, while the standalone version can be used in combination
with any edition of LiveCode , Revolution and MetaCard, as well as
RealStudio/Xojo, SuperCard, Prezi, HyperStudio etc.

Upgrading

Normally, licenses cost 39 euro with free updates during the first 3
months after purchase. Upgrades are available for € 16,95 during one
year after purchase. Just for one week, we allow everyone to upgrade his
or her license at the discounted upgrade price.

To get a new license, go to http://qery.us/49n (plug-in) or
http://qery.us/49o (standalone) and enter your license key at the bottom
of the page. The page will load again and if you scroll to the bottom of
the page again, you will now be able to buy a new license at the
discount price. From there, just follow PayPal's instructions. Shortly
after purchase, you will first receive an auto-reply. Your license
follows within 24 hours.

Why Upgrade?

Perhaps you didn't upgrade in the past, because you were missing some
essential features? Download the Read Me file from http://qery.us/49m
(PDF) and check out the history. You'll see that many features have been
added during the past year. Go to http://qery.us/49n to download the
plug-in or to http://qery.us/49o to download the standalone version.

Did you use the plug-in edition with a commercial version of LiveCode
and are you moving to the open-source edition? Then download the
standalone version. You can always switch from the plug-in edition and
back or use them combined.

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Re: MS SQL

[Rodney Green]

I tried it in 6.6 and 6.6.1. I'm using Actual Technologies ODBC manager
(demo). And I can connect successfully to the SQL server with Navicat. I'm
on a Mac (10.9.2) and connecting via a VPN.


On Wed, Apr 23, 2014 at 7:17 PM, Peter Haworth  wrote:

> That seems strange - I wouldn't expect to see field names, just the data in
> them.  What version of LC are you using?  Might be time to enter a bug
> report.
>
> Pete
> lcSQL Software 
> Home of lcStackBrowser  and
> SQLiteAdmin 
>
>
> On Wed, Apr 23, 2014 at 2:47 PM, Rodney Green  >wrote:
>
> > I turned on tracing in the odbc driver and I can see field names in the
> > data. So I'm assuming the query is working. But still can't figure out
> why
> > LC is hanging. I have database checked in the stand alone settings, not
> > sure if this matters while in LC. Any ideas how I can track down why LC
> is
> > hanging?
> >
> >
> > On Wed, Apr 23, 2014 at 10:13 AM, Peter Haworth  wrote:
> >
> > > In gmail, you can fix that by using the "Paste and match style" option
> on
> > > the edit menu.
> > >
> > > Pete
> > > lcSQL Software
> > > On Apr 22, 2014 7:34 PM, "J. Landman Gay" 
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > > On 4/22/14, 6:49 PM, Kay C Lan wrote:
> > > >
> > > >> I don't know if it's just your email client but what I'm seeing is
> an
> > > >> asterisk * around the words get, put and return which shouldn't be
> > > there.
> > > >>
> > > >
> > > > That happens to all keywords when a colorized script is copied from
> the
> > > > script editor and pasted into a text-only email list. I see it here
> all
> > > the
> > > > time.
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > Jacqueline Landman Gay | jac...@hyperactivesw.com
> > > > HyperActive Software   | http://www.hyperactivesw.com
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Re: [Enhancement Request] Open and BackUp in LiveCode DP and RC

[Kay C Lan]

On Thu, Apr 24, 2014 at 3:37 AM, Richard Gaskin
wrote:

> Stacks can be opened many ways.
>

I'm with Richard on this one. I have stacks I wont risk with anything other
than GM versions of LC. Those stacks I am willing to risk I simply
duplicate then start them up with an RC or DP version.

The problem I have is I occasionally accidentally start the wrong version
so I'm constantly needing to visit the About LiveCode to confirm which
version is open - because I can't read the splash screen fast enough or I
forgot to look at it properly.

Maybe a simpler solution and one that seems to already be partially in
place is just to change the colour of the splash screen (and Dock icon on
Mac). I believe it is blue for Commercial and Green for Community. Maybe
they could just include Orange for Release Candidate and Red for Developer
Preview. That way there'd be another clue (warning) that you are opening a
DP version of LC when you really meant to be opening a GM version.
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Re: Using Profiles

[Mark Wieder]

Pete-

Wednesday, April 23, 2014, 4:13:10 PM, you wrote:

> I believe you can change any built-in property but I'm just starting to
> learn about profiles so could be wrong.

I gave up trying to figure out profiles a long time ago. They didn't
seem to do what I seemed to think they should do. I think others have
had more success, but more than that I can't say. I do know they're
not for localization, but that's as far as I got.

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Re: [Enhancement Request] Open and BackUp in LiveCode DP and RC

[J. Landman Gay]

I got tired of that so now I just type "the version" into the message box.  

On April 23, 2014 8:20:56 PM CDT, Kay C Lan  wrote:

>The problem I have is I occasionally accidentally start the wrong version
>so I'm constantly needing to visit the About LiveCode to confirm which version 
>is open 
-- 
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Re: [Enhancement Request] Open and BackUp in LiveCode DP and RC

[Dar Scott]

With a file-format change happening, and two fronts of development, this is 
even more important.  

Maybe the mouse pointer can be red for dp and orange for rc.  Or it can speak 
“seven point zero” whenever I bring a window forward. 

Or a way to make version icons for aliases.

Dar

On Apr 23, 2014, at 8:13 PM, J. Landman Gay  wrote:

> I got tired of that so now I just type "the version" into the message box.  
> 
> On April 23, 2014 8:20:56 PM CDT, Kay C Lan  wrote:
> 
>> The problem I have is I occasionally accidentally start the wrong version
>> so I'm constantly needing to visit the About LiveCode to confirm which 
>> version is open 
> -- 
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Re: Using Profiles

[Guglielmo Braguglia]

Hi to all,
sorry but ... I don't agree ...  :D :D :D

Living in Switzerland, I often need to write programs in our national 
languages (Italian French and German), plus, obviously, English and I 
have always used, not without some minor difficulties, especially with 
accented characters on different platforms, "profiles".


To solve these minor problems, where is possible, I have still used the 
"htmlText" and not the "text" ... because I see that "htmlText" is 
properly managed changing platform.  Unfortunately, not for all of the 
controls you can use "htmlText", some have only "text".


Normally I define 4 "profiles" ... prItalian, prFrench, prGerman and 
pgEnglish and, where is necessary, I set the "htmlText" of the control, 
for each one of the profiles, to the correct translation, then ... 
retrieved the user local language, I just do:


revSetStackProfile "<>", "<>"

... and all appear in the correct language  :)

Unfortunately ... you can't do that for each LiveCode object ...
... e.g. I have not found a simple way of doing this for the "DataGrid 
column labels" so ... after changing "profile" I'm obliged to do also:


set the dgProp["column labels"] ...

... for each DataGrid I have to translate the column labels ... but ok 
... Is not a big problem ;)


Hope this help,

Cordially,

Guglielmo



Mark Wieder wrote:

Pete-

Wednesday, April 23, 2014, 4:13:10 PM, you wrote:


I believe you can change any built-in property but I'm just starting to
learn about profiles so could be wrong.


I gave up trying to figure out profiles a long time ago. They didn't
seem to do what I seemed to think they should do. I think others have
had more success, but more than that I can't say. I do know they're
not for localization, but that's as far as I got.


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Re: Printing a RTF file saved as a custom properties of a stack

[stephen barncard]

On Wed, Apr 23, 2014 at 3:00 PM, Charles Szasz  wrote:

> In the print preview on my Mac, I can see the Rtf “coding” and not the
> nicely formatted text document I wanted.


I have no idea what the clipboard has to do with what you wanted to do
here...

Anyway - this test should load an RTF file created by TextEdit and set the
RTFText  in the livecode field to look exactly like the TE document.

You need two fields,  Field1 and Field2 and a button with this script:

*global* gFile

*on* mouseUp

*if* the optionkey is down *then* *edit* script of me

*answer* file "get file" && gfile

*if* it is empty *then* *exit* to top

*put* it into gFile

*put* "file:/" before gFile

*get* URL gFile

*put* it into fld "Field1"  *-- (optional) examine RTFText*

*set* the RTFText of fld "Field2" to it *-- convert **RTF** to readable
in field*

*pass* mouseup

*end* mouseUp


be sure to set the fixedlineHeight of the RTF text field to false.

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AW: How to open a stack at a custom position without flipping?

[Tiemo Hollmann TB]

Hi Dave,
sometimes the solution is too obvious :)
Thank you
Tiemo


> -Ursprüngliche Nachricht-
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> von Dave Kilroy
> Gesendet: Mittwoch, 23. April 2014 15:43
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> Betreff: Re: How to open a stack at a custom position without flipping?
> 
> Hi Tiemo
> 
> For your first issue I would so something like "set the visible of me to
> false" early on in your preOpenStack handler, and once you were sure
> everything was in the right place do a "set the visible of me to true"
> 
> Regarding your second issue can you not populate your fields inside a
> preOpenCard handler? If not then you could make another card containing
your
> splash image (or some other thing) the first card in your stack and then
have
> have something in your openCard handler to go to the second card after a
> second or two...
> 
> 
> 
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