RE: RELEASE LiveCode 6.6.2 RC3
There are no problems scanning QRCodes when using LC 6.6.2 RC3, not here anyway, in fact they are the easiest and most forgiving of them all... From: mikeker...@roadrunner.com Date: Sat, 3 May 2014 18:47:16 -0400 Subject: Re: RELEASE LiveCode 6.6.2 RC3 To: use-livecode@lists.runrev.com This means, by the way, that barcodes, especially QR codes, are challenging to scan. On Sat, May 3, 2014 at 5:09 PM, Mike Kerner mikeker...@roadrunner.comwrote: See comment on 6.7 dp3 as well - images appear to be antialiased again. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: [OT] free personality portraits
I would just like to say how extremely impressed I was by my personality portrait. Thank you, Robert Brenstein. It blew me away. Richmond ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: RELEASE LiveCode 6.6.2 RC3
Am 04.05.2014 um 09:17 schrieb John Dixon dixo...@hotmail.co.uk: There are no problems scanning QRCodes when using LC 6.6.2 RC3, not here anyway, in fact they are the easiest and most forgiving of them all… May i asked what you do mean with scanning QRCodes? Under iOS or Mac OS X? I am looking for a solution for Mac OS X and Windows where i can load a QR Code image and scan/decode it with LC to get the stored information. Regards, Matthias From: mikeker...@roadrunner.com Date: Sat, 3 May 2014 18:47:16 -0400 Subject: Re: RELEASE LiveCode 6.6.2 RC3 To: use-livecode@lists.runrev.com This means, by the way, that barcodes, especially QR codes, are challenging to scan. On Sat, May 3, 2014 at 5:09 PM, Mike Kerner mikeker...@roadrunner.comwrote: See comment on 6.7 dp3 as well - images appear to be antialiased again. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
RE: RELEASE LiveCode 6.6.2 RC3
Matthias... I was refering to scaaning QRCodes on iOS mobile using monte goulding's mergXzing external . John Craig may well have an answer for you through the use of his 'sQRirt' library about getting the information from a QRimage... Am 04.05.2014 um 09:17 schrieb John Dixon dixo...@hotmail.co.uk: There are no problems scanning QRCodes when using LC 6.6.2 RC3, not here anyway, in fact they are the easiest and most forgiving of them all… May i asked what you do mean with scanning QRCodes? Under iOS or Mac OS X? I am looking for a solution for Mac OS X and Windows where i can load a QR Code image and scan/decode it with LC to get the stored information. Regards, Matthias ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
[OT] Tooling around
And, so, to download the 30 day version of the latest version of Toolbook Instructor when I hit on their examples of stuff made with our thang page led me to this: http://tb.sumtotalsystems.com/showcase/sonata/firefox3/index.html?dhtmlActivation=inplace Awful; both in terms of GUI design and just about everything else. Now it may be a bit naughty . . . but, I remember when I was in the United States watching TV commercials (actually, apart from National Public Television (rocks!) there seemed to be only commercials to watch) that went something like this: Our product . . . Big picture of product . . . doesn't suck as much as . . . Big picture of rival product . . . and this is why . . . 5 second whizz through our product's good points compared with their product's bad points (avoiding their good points and out bad points). Now the main difference between those adverts about washing powder; which, face facts, will both get you scratching under your oxters owing to the enzymes they've shoved in their products; and products such as Livecode and Toolbook is that the ONLY possible advantage I can see with Toolbook is its ability to pump out things that run in a web-browser, cross-platform without having to first download a plug-in . . . on every other point Toolbooks loses. Some people will say that it is immoral pushing your product by running down a rival one: well, it probably is if there are no obvious differences and advantages of your product over the rival one . . . BUT Toolbook just doesn't match up to Livecode: BUT, loads of people are pumping their money into Toolbook instead of Livecode . . . why? The progging language is more awkward, The interface is not completely WYSIWYG, Probably through: 1. Inertia. 2. The theory that having spent yonks learning how to get Toolbook to do something one cannot be bothered to do that all over again for Livecode. 3. RunRev are not getting the message out. Here is the bye-line for Toolbook: The New ToolBook 11.5Industry’s most comprehensive solution for fast, easy content authoring That last sentence is untrue and needs to be taken issue with. - Richmond. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: RELEASE LiveCode 6.6.2 RC3
not scanning - creating - sorry. They're a challenge to scan because they aren't clear on the screen. Scanning works as fine as mergZX can (there are issues with mergZX that Monte knows about). When you create the codes with sQuiRt, the image on-screen in the graphic area is antialiased. That does not appear to be a sQuiRt problem. That is an image area problem. On Sun, May 4, 2014 at 4:32 AM, John Dixon dixo...@hotmail.co.uk wrote: Matthias... I was refering to scaaning QRCodes on iOS mobile using monte goulding's mergXzing external . John Craig may well have an answer for you through the use of his 'sQRirt' library about getting the information from a QRimage... Am 04.05.2014 um 09:17 schrieb John Dixon dixo...@hotmail.co.uk: There are no problems scanning QRCodes when using LC 6.6.2 RC3, not here anyway, in fact they are the easiest and most forgiving of them all… May i asked what you do mean with scanning QRCodes? Under iOS or Mac OS X? I am looking for a solution for Mac OS X and Windows where i can load a QR Code image and scan/decode it with LC to get the stored information. Regards, Matthias ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode -- On the first day, God created the heavens and the Earth On the second day, God created the oceans. On the third day, God put the animals on hold for a few hours, and did a little diving. And God said, This is good. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: [ANN] Looking for Proof Reader
Hi Charles, Thanks for the offer. I'll send you an e-mail. -- Best regards, Mark Schonewille Economy-x-Talk Consulting and Software Engineering Homepage: http://economy-x-talk.com Twitter: http://twitter.com/xtalkprogrammer KvK: 50277553 Installer Maker for LiveCode: http://qery.us/468 Buy my new book Programming LiveCode for the Real Beginner http://qery.us/3fi LiveCode on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/groups/runrev/ On 5/4/2014 04:25, Charles Szasz wrote: Mark I would be happy to help with proofreading your book. Sent from my iPad ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Run a command line app from memory
It is but outside of my current skill set. Someone else wrote this. ;) I might have to explore that as well. Thanks! On May 3, 2014 10:45 PM, Peter W A Wood peterwaw...@gmail.com wrote: Andrew Is it not possible for you to include the C code as a LiveCode external rather than write a separate program? Regards Peter On 4 May 2014, at 11:24, Andrew Kluthe wrote: Good point Richard. I never thought of it like that. Hmmm, I'll have to look into that. How I'm doing it now is how you've described it but I was asked if I could come up with a way to do this without adding any new files to disk on the fly and not need admin rights to facilitate this. It was written as a c program for the raw performance boost otherwise doing it all in LiveCode is a perfect option. I know we can use in memory SQLlite dB's and some other things but I imagine runrev had to do some work on the backside to make that happen. Anyhow, ill keep exploring my alternatives. Thanks for the suggestions. Andrew On May 3, 2014 9:46 PM, Richard Gaskin ambassa...@fourthworld.com wrote: Andrew Kluthe wrote: I have the need to run a command line utility from LiveCode without writing it to disk. Ideally I would like to store it in a custom property and find a way to run it in memory without ever writing it to a disk. Is this at all possible using only LiveCode? If I understand this correctly, it's not LiveCode that'll be running the program, but Windows; LiveCode is simply initiating the execution. Can Windows run programs that exist only in the memory space of another application? I don't know the answer to that, but kinda I hope not, since intuitively it seems like a potential security hole. Can you write the program file to temp and launch it from there? Or rewrite its functionality in script? -- Richard Gaskin Fourth World Systems Software Design and Development for Desktop, Mobile, and Web ambassa...@fourthworld.comhttp://www.FourthWorld.com ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: [OT] Tooling around
Toolbook is, most definitely, less of a programming environment than Livecode, but more of a LEGO kit. Which makes me wonder . . . It provides a vast number of premade objects, 74 types of text object, but, an extremely limited number of buttons, which, obviously, both take a lot of donkey work off the back of the end-user, AND, cramp the imaginative style of the end-user . . . Now, whether that is a bad or good thing is hard to say . . . However . . with reference to Dar Scott and others, I begin to wonder if, as Livecode gets increasingly capable of extremely sophisticated things, if it is not time for a 2-tier interface: 1. An interface with a vast number of premade objects with preprogrammed capabilities rather like Toolbook and . . . [apologies in advance] . . . Powerpoint. 2. Our current interface, or even a reduced one somewhat like the Metacard one. When I have taught programming to Primary kids I have found they divide into two groups (about 25% to 75%) those who want to control everything through programming objects via scripts and those who want the plug-n-play, programming-as-LEGO-blocks kids. Of course, as an intellectual snob I favour the first 25%. Notwithstanding that, if Livecode has any serious pretensions to Power to the People it might like to consider the needs of the second group . . . especially not when it comes to a bunch of school kids who are paying Richmond to keep their kids off the streets in June-July, but when it comes to end-users who (c.f. my Master's thesis from Abertay) are interested in delivering an end-product relating to their subject area without having to go to great lengths to learn a programming language first. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Call for testing with 6.6.2 RC3
I am noticing a huge slow down in responsiveness with the IDE with RC3 when it's been running for awhile and after I've been displaying a card that has a large number of controls or is displaying multiple images or both. The cards also have acceleratedRendering for the stack set to true. I've had to restart RC3 numerous times to get the responsiveness back. After reverting to RC2 early this morning, I'm still not seeing any slow down. Has anyone else noticed this? Running Mac OS X 10.9.2 The app itself seems to run fine under iOS with RC3 although I've notice that acceleratedRendering is disabled when on a card that contains a list of groups scrolled to the bottom and then displayed... wonder if it's related. Best, Steve On May 2, 2014, at 8:09 PM, Richard Gaskin ambassa...@fourthworld.com wrote: We all want LiveCode to be stable for the work we rely on it to do, so this is our chance: The dev team has posted 6.6.2 RC3 today, and as you know RC means Release Candidate. This being the third RC means we're very close to seeing a release, but of course we'll want to catch any issues with it BEFORE release, not after, so Please download v6.6.2 RC3 today and test with it over the weekend: http://downloads.livecode.com/livecode/ It's always good to back up your files anyway, so run your backup, install the new build, and test away! If you find any bugs you know where to file 'em: http://quality.runrev.com/enter_bug.cgi Thanks in advance for your efforts to help ensure this new build will perform perfectly for the projects you're working on. If you find your testing with 6.6.2 RC3 is going well and you have extra time to test, 6.7 DP3 is also available on the Download page and could benefit from more testing as well. -- Richard Gaskin LiveCode Community Manager rich...@livecode.com ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: LiveCode Books
Hi all My BIG news is that I've got LC server running on Mavericks! Yea! What I was doing wrong was thinking that in the lesson that Richard mentioned (which I have gone through umpteen times in the last few months) that livecode-cgi was a literal that I should use - eventually with some help from Gregg Flora (as well as Richard and Peter here) the penny dropped - and when I substituted livecode-cgi with cgi-bin in my httpd.conf file - then restarted Apache - it just worked! Well Duh! What a moron I've been! I think I'll make a comment on that lesson's page just in case anyone else is as silly as I... Thank you for all your help :) Kind regards Dave PS: I'm running Mavericks with Mamp and VirtualHostX and was struggling to install LiveCode Community Server 6.6.1 - Some are born coders, some achieve coding, and some have coding thrust upon them. - William Shakespeare Hugh Senior -- View this message in context: http://runtime-revolution.278305.n4.nabble.com/LiveCode-Books-tp4678900p4679058.html Sent from the Revolution - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: LiveCode Books
Richard your 'LiveCode Server Center' sounds brilliant :) Congratulations on nearly getting it together and thank you for the long hours you must have put in. I'll be happy to contribute what I can as a server newbie (I can drive Ralf's revIgniter in 'first and second gear', and have just started to play with BootStrap) - and I agree, LC Server is going to become more and more important to us all - move over mobile! Kind regards Dave - Some are born coders, some achieve coding, and some have coding thrust upon them. - William Shakespeare Hugh Senior -- View this message in context: http://runtime-revolution.278305.n4.nabble.com/LiveCode-Books-tp4678900p4679059.html Sent from the Revolution - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
RE: Call for testing with 6.6.2 RC3
I don't see it on Windows. Ralph DiMola IT Director Evergreen Information Services rdim...@evergreeninfo.net -Original Message- From: use-livecode [mailto:use-livecode-boun...@lists.runrev.com] On Behalf Of Stephen MacLean Sent: Sunday, May 04, 2014 2:14 PM To: How to use LiveCode Cc: LiveCode Developer List Subject: Re: Call for testing with 6.6.2 RC3 I am noticing a huge slow down in responsiveness with the IDE with RC3 when it's been running for awhile and after I've been displaying a card that has a large number of controls or is displaying multiple images or both. The cards also have acceleratedRendering for the stack set to true. I've had to restart RC3 numerous times to get the responsiveness back. After reverting to RC2 early this morning, I'm still not seeing any slow down. Has anyone else noticed this? Running Mac OS X 10.9.2 The app itself seems to run fine under iOS with RC3 although I've notice that acceleratedRendering is disabled when on a card that contains a list of groups scrolled to the bottom and then displayed... wonder if it's related. Best, Steve ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Call for testing with 6.6.2 RC3
I'm having troubles with making snapshots on this release. I have numerous images and the snapshot (previously fine on 6.6) is not reliably working, even tho I have is wrapped in wait 0.1 seconds with messages. A test stack worked, so it may be the other images on my card. I'll try some other experiments to test this. But, I thought the wait for 0.1 seconds with messages made the system wait until all operations we're complete, and wrapping the snapshot command in these statements would be sufficient. In any case rc3 broke my application. I'm on Mac osx 10.9.2 Bill William Prothero http://es.earthednet.org On May 4, 2014, at 12:59 PM, Ralph DiMola rdim...@evergreeninfo.net wrote: I don't see it on Windows. Ralph DiMola IT Director Evergreen Information Services rdim...@evergreeninfo.net -Original Message- From: use-livecode [mailto:use-livecode-boun...@lists.runrev.com] On Behalf Of Stephen MacLean Sent: Sunday, May 04, 2014 2:14 PM To: How to use LiveCode Cc: LiveCode Developer List Subject: Re: Call for testing with 6.6.2 RC3 I am noticing a huge slow down in responsiveness with the IDE with RC3 when it's been running for awhile and after I've been displaying a card that has a large number of controls or is displaying multiple images or both. The cards also have acceleratedRendering for the stack set to true. I've had to restart RC3 numerous times to get the responsiveness back. After reverting to RC2 early this morning, I'm still not seeing any slow down. Has anyone else noticed this? Running Mac OS X 10.9.2 The app itself seems to run fine under iOS with RC3 although I've notice that acceleratedRendering is disabled when on a card that contains a list of groups scrolled to the bottom and then displayed... wonder if it's related. Best, Steve ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Call for testing with 6.6.2 RC3
On 5/4/14, 3:25 PM, Earthednet-wp wrote: I'm having troubles with making snapshots on this release. I have numerous images and the snapshot (previously fine on 6.6) is not reliably working, even tho I have is wrapped in wait 0.1 seconds with messages. A test stack worked, so it may be the other images on my card. I'll try some other experiments to test this. Maybe there's a reason I'm not aware of, but I've never needed any wait commands, LC always completes the current statement before moving on to the next one. It would be helpful to know what exactly doesn't work, the syntax you're using, and what OS you're on. Have you tried checking the result or wrapping the command in a try statement to catch any errors? -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | jac...@hyperactivesw.com HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: [OT] Tooling around
Hi Richmond, If I understand well your message, you want that Livecode exports stacks as websites or webpages. In this mail list there experts in both areas. Could you ask them to post a tutorial for converting a simple stack to run as a client-side webpage? (that is, no cgi-server scripts running in php, perl or ruby...) Al -- View this message in context: http://runtime-revolution.278305.n4.nabble.com/OT-Tooling-around-tp4679051p4679063.html Sent from the Revolution - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: RELEASE LiveCode 6.6.2 RC3
Mike Kerner wrote [snip] When you create the codes with sQuiRt, the image on-screen in the graphic area is antialiased. That does not appear to be a sQuiRt problem. That is an image area problem. Maybe. Just maybe. This problem is related to image quality: http://quality.runrev.com/show_bug.cgi?id=12307 After LiveCode 6.6, image quality normal and good looks exactly alike. Not so in previous versions. Look at the image attached to this message: http://runtime-revolution.278305.n4.nabble.com/Changes-in-LiveCode-Image-Quality-A-comparison-td4678643.html This stack shows a comparison between image qualities in different LiveCode versions: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/3834621/LiveCode_Image_Quality_comparison.livecode Al -- View this message in context: http://runtime-revolution.278305.n4.nabble.com/RELEASE-LiveCode-6-6-2-RC3-tp4678956p4679064.html Sent from the Revolution - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Determining which/how many rows of a datagrid form are currently displayed
I'm using a series of datagrid form to display a some data that runs over several pages and will be output as a pdf. My problem is that the 'lines' in the form are of variable height and so I can't just assume that each page will display a set number of lines and populate successive datagrids accordingly. Given this, is there a way (a dgProp?) to determine how many lines are displayed or will fit in a form datagrid of known height? Terry… ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: RELEASE LiveCode 6.6.2 RC3
Well, best is nowhere near good enough for images with strong edges because of the antialiasing. On Sun, May 4, 2014 at 9:00 PM, Alejandro Tejada capellan2...@gmail.comwrote: Mike Kerner wrote [snip] When you create the codes with sQuiRt, the image on-screen in the graphic area is antialiased. That does not appear to be a sQuiRt problem. That is an image area problem. Maybe. Just maybe. This problem is related to image quality: http://quality.runrev.com/show_bug.cgi?id=12307 After LiveCode 6.6, image quality normal and good looks exactly alike. Not so in previous versions. Look at the image attached to this message: http://runtime-revolution.278305.n4.nabble.com/Changes-in-LiveCode-Image-Quality-A-comparison-td4678643.html This stack shows a comparison between image qualities in different LiveCode versions: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/3834621/LiveCode_Image_Quality_comparison.livecode Al -- View this message in context: http://runtime-revolution.278305.n4.nabble.com/RELEASE-LiveCode-6-6-2-RC3-tp4678956p4679064.html Sent from the Revolution - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode -- On the first day, God created the heavens and the Earth On the second day, God created the oceans. On the third day, God put the animals on hold for a few hours, and did a little diving. And God said, This is good. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
RE: RELEASE LiveCode 6.6.2 RC3
Mike is quite correct... creating QRCodes with 5.5.5 6.5.2 is not a problem... but after that the QRCodes produced are not able to be scanned... so, it's not a sQuiRt problem but LC's problem... Hope they fix it quickly..:-) From: mikeker...@roadrunner.com Date: Sun, 4 May 2014 21:39:09 -0400 Subject: Re: RELEASE LiveCode 6.6.2 RC3 To: use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Well, best is nowhere near good enough for images with strong edges because of the antialiasing. On Sun, May 4, 2014 at 9:00 PM, Alejandro Tejada capellan2...@gmail.comwrote: Mike Kerner wrote [snip] When you create the codes with sQuiRt, the image on-screen in the graphic area is antialiased. That does not appear to be a sQuiRt problem. That is an image area problem. Maybe. Just maybe. This problem is related to image quality: http://quality.runrev.com/show_bug.cgi?id=12307 After LiveCode 6.6, image quality normal and good looks exactly alike. Not so in previous versions. Look at the image attached to this message: http://runtime-revolution.278305.n4.nabble.com/Changes-in-LiveCode-Image-Quality-A-comparison-td4678643.html This stack shows a comparison between image qualities in different LiveCode versions: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/3834621/LiveCode_Image_Quality_comparison.livecode Al -- View this message in context: http://runtime-revolution.278305.n4.nabble.com/RELEASE-LiveCode-6-6-2-RC3-tp4678956p4679064.html Sent from the Revolution - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode -- On the first day, God created the heavens and the Earth On the second day, God created the oceans. On the third day, God put the animals on hold for a few hours, and did a little diving. And God said, This is good. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: wait with messages
On Fri, May 2, 2014 at 7:32 AM, Richard Gaskin ambassa...@fourthworld.comwrote: I would imagine that after that much time there would be an error or two in it, but I haven't come across specific inaccuracies, and I've been asking for months and haven't been able to find anyone else who can help me turn up any. As a User Guide it remains a good starting point to get the lay of the land, with the updated-with-each-release Dictionary for token details. Maybe it's not an inaccuracy as such, but I think there is a gotcha for Mac users new to LC when referring to the Dictionary and the User Guide. The User Guide typically uses the terms Mac OS and Mac OS X as interchangeable (Page 11 - 7.13.6 Menu Bars on Mac OS Systems [no mention of Mac OS X menubars]. As the latest LC doesn't build for OS 9, and a new user to LC isn't ever likely to think about building for OS 9, this is completely acceptable and understandable. But, the Dictionary does distinguish between Mac OS and Mac OS X because many of the references do date back to OS 9 compatibility. See the entry for specialFolderPath(). The problem arises when an entry or example ONLY has a reference to Mac OS - see 'address' in the Dictionary. Any new user to LC who reads the User Guide and reads Mac OS will think OS X, and that is basically correct. But when they go to the Dictionary and see examples that are only Mac OS, they'll think they'll work on OS X and there is a good chance they'd be very frustrated because they do exactly what the example says but the do NOT get the result the Dictionary say they should get. Every example in the Dictionary for Mac OS [Classic] needs to be removed and replaced with an OS X example if it doesn't exist, or if it does, a much more useful iOS example, if applicable. There are the odd entries in the User Guide where the differentiation between Mac OS and Mac OS X is made (11.3.2 OS X file Types. 11.3.3 Mac OS Classic File Types), I'm not sure 11.3.3 is of much use to anyone today. I think the last version of Revolution to run on Mac OS was 2.6.1 so the User Guide and Dictionary need to be standardised so that ONLY the term OS X is used, or if the TM Logo Police so dictate, Mac OS X. All references to Mac OS should be removed as there is no longer a need for Classic information. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Reporting the number of duplicates in a list of numbers?
Hi All… I am attempting to get the total number of times specific words in a text passage are selected by students. The way I’m doing this is by recording the word numbers selected by each student and storing them in a database. I end up with list of numbers representing the selected words, something like this: 3 5 6 6 24 24 24 33 130 109 … etc. etc. I would like to determine the number of times the same words are selected by the students and then control their font size, make the font size larger the more often the text is selected. So the teacher’s report would be the same passage of text with the font sizes of the text increased based on how many times the word was selected by the students. I’m not sure how to get the counts for the selected words. These list of word numbers could be quite long, depending on how many students are in the class and the length of the passage. I have not done anything like this before so I’m looking for any advice. Should I be dumping the list into an array and then working some kind of array magic? Can I just use a repeated find script and increment a variable for each item in my list? I didn’t want to spin my wheels too long, and this is probably pretty basic, but I can’t remember coding a solution to something like this in the past. Thank you! John Patten SUSD ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Reporting the number of duplicates in a list of numbers?
This might get you started, in the msg box: put 3,5,6,6,24,24,24,33,130,109 into tData --if the data comes from the db as seperate lines, then --repeat for each line tRecord in tData --if data comes in from db as a list repeat for each item tRecord in tData add 1 to aCount[tRecord] end repeat --now output results repeat for each key tKey in aCount put tKey = aCount[tKey] cr after msg end repeat The output I get is: 109 = 1 3 = 1 130 = 1 5 = 1 33 = 1 24 = 3 6 = 2 HTH On Mon, May 5, 2014 at 10:58 AM, JOHN PATTEN johnpat...@me.com wrote: Hi All… I am attempting to get the total number of times specific words in a text passage are selected by students. The way I’m doing this is by recording the word numbers selected by each student and storing them in a database. I end up with list of numbers representing the selected words, something like this: 3 5 6 6 24 24 24 33 130 109 … etc. etc. I would like to determine the number of times the same words are selected by the students and then control their font size, make the font size larger the more often the text is selected. So the teacher’s report would be the same passage of text with the font sizes of the text increased based on how many times the word was selected by the students. I’m not sure how to get the counts for the selected words. These list of word numbers could be quite long, depending on how many students are in the class and the length of the passage. I have not done anything like this before so I’m looking for any advice. Should I be dumping the list into an array and then working some kind of array magic? Can I just use a repeated find script and increment a variable for each item in my list? I didn’t want to spin my wheels too long, and this is probably pretty basic, but I can’t remember coding a solution to something like this in the past. Thank you! John Patten SUSD ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Call for testing with 6.6.2 RC3
Jacqueline: Thanks for responding. I can’t reproduce the problem with my test stack, which works fine. My actual application is more complicated, and has a fairly large map image. So, I’m wondering if that might be the cause and I’ll have to make some tests. RC3 worked initially, but began failing intermittently after a few seconds using the app. Incidentally, unless I put a “wait 0.1 seconds with messages” before the snapshot command, neither 6.6 or 6.6.2RC3 works. I tried the try/catch (no errors thrown( and putting the result, which always returns a rect of the capture region, it seems. The code I use for my application is: on copyMapToSnap put the name of me into thisImage set the visible of thisImage to FALSE wait for 0.1 seconds with messages --wait for 1 seconds with messages put the rect of this stack into stackRect put rectLeft(stackRect),rectTop(stackRect) into theOffset --this is the point at the topleft of the stack window put the rect of graphic MapBox into theRect --This is relative to the stack put offsetRect(theRect,theOffset) into snapRect--offset the capture rect to absolute screen coordinates put adjustSizeOfRect(snapRect,1,1,-1,-1) into snapRect --remove border of grahics box --wait for 0.1 seconds with messages --wait for 1 seconds --with messages --try export snapshot from rect snapRect to image mapSnap --catch theError --answer theError -- end try put the result --wait for 0.1 seconds with messages --wait for 1.1 seconds put adjustSizeOfRect(theRect,1,1,-1,-1) into snapRect --theRect is relative to the stack set the rect of image mapSnap to snapRect --now set the captured rect to the mapbox rect wait for 0 seconds with messages set the visible of thisImage to TRUE end copyMapToSnap In the absence of ideas from this list, I’m going to try adding some complexity to the test stack and see if I can find what causes the failure. Best, Bill Prothero William waproth...@gmail.com ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Reporting the number of duplicates in a list of numbers?
Thanks Kay! That’s what I needed. I knew it was pretty simple, but my unfamiliarity with arrays prevented me from seeing the solution. Cheers! John Patten SUSD On May 4, 2014, at 8:14 PM, Kay C Lan lan.kc.macm...@gmail.com wrote: This might get you started, in the msg box: put 3,5,6,6,24,24,24,33,130,109 into tData --if the data comes from the db as seperate lines, then --repeat for each line tRecord in tData --if data comes in from db as a list repeat for each item tRecord in tData add 1 to aCount[tRecord] end repeat --now output results repeat for each key tKey in aCount put tKey = aCount[tKey] cr after msg end repeat The output I get is: 109 = 1 3 = 1 130 = 1 5 = 1 33 = 1 24 = 3 6 = 2 HTH On Mon, May 5, 2014 at 10:58 AM, JOHN PATTEN johnpat...@me.com wrote: Hi All… I am attempting to get the total number of times specific words in a text passage are selected by students. The way I’m doing this is by recording the word numbers selected by each student and storing them in a database. I end up with list of numbers representing the selected words, something like this: 3 5 6 6 24 24 24 33 130 109 … etc. etc. I would like to determine the number of times the same words are selected by the students and then control their font size, make the font size larger the more often the text is selected. So the teacher’s report would be the same passage of text with the font sizes of the text increased based on how many times the word was selected by the students. I’m not sure how to get the counts for the selected words. These list of word numbers could be quite long, depending on how many students are in the class and the length of the passage. I have not done anything like this before so I’m looking for any advice. Should I be dumping the list into an array and then working some kind of array magic? Can I just use a repeated find script and increment a variable for each item in my list? I didn’t want to spin my wheels too long, and this is probably pretty basic, but I can’t remember coding a solution to something like this in the past. Thank you! John Patten SUSD ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Call for testing with 6.6.2 RC3
Bill, I don't see anything in the handler that should require a wait, if that's all that is going on. Is the map still loading while you're trying to get the snapshot? Any pending messages? Even so it doesn't make sense, because once a handler triggers it should run to completion. Normally any pending messages will be suspended until the handler finishes, but the waits in this one will allow them to process. Then when the pending activity is done, the original handler picks up where it left off. But maybe that's not happening, or maybe the background activity is exiting to top. Anyway, I'd look for background activity. An error in another script that runs during the wait may be causing all scripts to abort. I can't think why you'd need to add the wait in the first place though. If you remove all waits from your test stack, does it still work there? On 5/4/14, 10:21 PM, proth...@earthednet.org wrote: Jacqueline: Thanks for responding. I can’t reproduce the problem with my test stack, which works fine. My actual application is more complicated, and has a fairly large map image. So, I’m wondering if that might be the cause and I’ll have to make some tests. RC3 worked initially, but began failing intermittently after a few seconds using the app. Incidentally, unless I put a “wait 0.1 seconds with messages” before the snapshot command, neither 6.6 or 6.6.2RC3 works. I tried the try/catch (no errors thrown( and putting the result, which always returns a rect of the capture region, it seems. The code I use for my application is: on copyMapToSnap put the name of me into thisImage set the visible of thisImage to FALSE wait for 0.1 seconds with messages --wait for 1 seconds with messages put the rect of this stack into stackRect put rectLeft(stackRect),rectTop(stackRect) into theOffset --this is the point at the topleft of the stack window put the rect of graphic MapBox into theRect --This is relative to the stack put offsetRect(theRect,theOffset) into snapRect--offset the capture rect to absolute screen coordinates put adjustSizeOfRect(snapRect,1,1,-1,-1) into snapRect --remove border of grahics box --wait for 0.1 seconds with messages --wait for 1 seconds --with messages --try export snapshot from rect snapRect to image mapSnap --catch theError --answer theError -- end try put the result --wait for 0.1 seconds with messages --wait for 1.1 seconds put adjustSizeOfRect(theRect,1,1,-1,-1) into snapRect --theRect is relative to the stack set the rect of image mapSnap to snapRect --now set the captured rect to the mapbox rect wait for 0 seconds with messages set the visible of thisImage to TRUE end copyMapToSnap In the absence of ideas from this list, I’m going to try adding some complexity to the test stack and see if I can find what causes the failure. Best, Bill Prothero William waproth...@gmail.com -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | jac...@hyperactivesw.com HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: wait with messages
This is a very good point; you should paste it into a bug report. I've noticed the same discrepancies in the dictionary and had to think twice about what some of those entries meant. On 5/4/14, 9:39 PM, Kay C Lan wrote: Maybe it's not an inaccuracy as such, but I think there is a gotcha for Mac users new to LC when referring to the Dictionary and the User Guide. The User Guide typically uses the terms Mac OS and Mac OS X as interchangeable (Page 11 - 7.13.6 Menu Bars on Mac OS Systems [no mention of Mac OS X menubars]. As the latest LC doesn't build for OS 9, and a new user to LC isn't ever likely to think about building for OS 9, this is completely acceptable and understandable. But, the Dictionary does distinguish between Mac OS and Mac OS X because many of the references do date back to OS 9 compatibility. See the entry for specialFolderPath(). The problem arises when an entry or example ONLY has a reference to Mac OS - see 'address' in the Dictionary. Any new user to LC who reads the User Guide and reads Mac OS will think OS X, and that is basically correct. But when they go to the Dictionary and see examples that are only Mac OS, they'll think they'll work on OS X and there is a good chance they'd be very frustrated because they do exactly what the example says but the do NOT get the result the Dictionary say they should get. Every example in the Dictionary for Mac OS [Classic] needs to be removed and replaced with an OS X example if it doesn't exist, or if it does, a much more useful iOS example, if applicable. There are the odd entries in the User Guide where the differentiation between Mac OS and Mac OS X is made (11.3.2 OS X file Types. 11.3.3 Mac OS Classic File Types), I'm not sure 11.3.3 is of much use to anyone today. I think the last version of Revolution to run on Mac OS was 2.6.1 so the User Guide and Dictionary need to be standardised so that ONLY the term OS X is used, or if the TM Logo Police so dictate, Mac OS X. All references to Mac OS should be removed as there is no longer a need for Classic information. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | jac...@hyperactivesw.com HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: wait with messages
Sorry, I should have mentioned: Bug 11838. On Mon, May 5, 2014 at 12:40 PM, J. Landman Gay jac...@hyperactivesw.comwrote: This is a very good point; you should paste it into a bug report. I've noticed the same discrepancies in the dictionary and had to think twice about what some of those entries meant. On 5/4/14, 9:39 PM, Kay C Lan wrote: Maybe it's not an inaccuracy as such, but I think there is a gotcha for Mac users new to LC when referring to the Dictionary and the User Guide. The User Guide typically uses the terms Mac OS and Mac OS X as interchangeable (Page 11 - 7.13.6 Menu Bars on Mac OS Systems [no mention of Mac OS X menubars]. As the latest LC doesn't build for OS 9, and a new user to LC isn't ever likely to think about building for OS 9, this is completely acceptable and understandable. But, the Dictionary does distinguish between Mac OS and Mac OS X because many of the references do date back to OS 9 compatibility. See the entry for specialFolderPath(). The problem arises when an entry or example ONLY has a reference to Mac OS - see 'address' in the Dictionary. Any new user to LC who reads the User Guide and reads Mac OS will think OS X, and that is basically correct. But when they go to the Dictionary and see examples that are only Mac OS, they'll think they'll work on OS X and there is a good chance they'd be very frustrated because they do exactly what the example says but the do NOT get the result the Dictionary say they should get. Every example in the Dictionary for Mac OS [Classic] needs to be removed and replaced with an OS X example if it doesn't exist, or if it does, a much more useful iOS example, if applicable. There are the odd entries in the User Guide where the differentiation between Mac OS and Mac OS X is made (11.3.2 OS X file Types. 11.3.3 Mac OS Classic File Types), I'm not sure 11.3.3 is of much use to anyone today. I think the last version of Revolution to run on Mac OS was 2.6.1 so the User Guide and Dictionary need to be standardised so that ONLY the term OS X is used, or if the TM Logo Police so dictate, Mac OS X. All references to Mac OS should be removed as there is no longer a need for Classic information. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | jac...@hyperactivesw.com HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Reporting the number of duplicates in a list of numbers?
If you're using an sql db: SELECT thewordnumber, count(*) AS C FROM table GROUP BY thewordnumber ORDER BY C DESCENDING Returns the word numbers and count sorted by count high to low. Pete lcSQL Software On May 4, 2014 8:47 PM, JOHN PATTEN johnpat...@me.com wrote: Thanks Kay! That’s what I needed. I knew it was pretty simple, but my unfamiliarity with arrays prevented me from seeing the solution. Cheers! John Patten SUSD On May 4, 2014, at 8:14 PM, Kay C Lan lan.kc.macm...@gmail.com wrote: This might get you started, in the msg box: put 3,5,6,6,24,24,24,33,130,109 into tData --if the data comes from the db as seperate lines, then --repeat for each line tRecord in tData --if data comes in from db as a list repeat for each item tRecord in tData add 1 to aCount[tRecord] end repeat --now output results repeat for each key tKey in aCount put tKey = aCount[tKey] cr after msg end repeat The output I get is: 109 = 1 3 = 1 130 = 1 5 = 1 33 = 1 24 = 3 6 = 2 HTH On Mon, May 5, 2014 at 10:58 AM, JOHN PATTEN johnpat...@me.com wrote: Hi All… I am attempting to get the total number of times specific words in a text passage are selected by students. The way I’m doing this is by recording the word numbers selected by each student and storing them in a database. I end up with list of numbers representing the selected words, something like this: 3 5 6 6 24 24 24 33 130 109 … etc. etc. I would like to determine the number of times the same words are selected by the students and then control their font size, make the font size larger the more often the text is selected. So the teacher’s report would be the same passage of text with the font sizes of the text increased based on how many times the word was selected by the students. I’m not sure how to get the counts for the selected words. These list of word numbers could be quite long, depending on how many students are in the class and the length of the passage. I have not done anything like this before so I’m looking for any advice. Should I be dumping the list into an array and then working some kind of array magic? Can I just use a repeated find script and increment a variable for each item in my list? I didn’t want to spin my wheels too long, and this is probably pretty basic, but I can’t remember coding a solution to something like this in the past. Thank you! John Patten SUSD ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
