Re: 7.0.0 dp 5

2014-05-26 Thread Warren Samples

On 05/26/2014 12:53 AM, Mark Wieder wrote:

That's what I thought. This urban legend has been batted around
lately.


Um, what is it you thought? I didn't say "I once heard somebody say 
their friend's uncle told them about a neighbor..." urban legend style. 
It was my own (recent) observation. I noticed a release announcement on 
one list but not the other. It's not impossible that I missed it, but I 
did look for it at the time. If I missed it, I will not have been the 
only one who has overlooked an announcement for one reason or another.


In any event, depending on these lists to prevent people from 
downloading publicly available software "until it's time" is wildly 
irresponsible and scolding or mocking someone for downloading such 
software is ridiculous. People regularly overlook or miss announcements 
and others might not be downloading immediately from the announcements 
but prefer to go to the download directory at some other convenient 
time. I'm pretty sure there is also hope that curious people are finding 
and downloading LiveCode with the expectation that they'll join these 
lists sometime after rather than vice versa. While it's possible to say 
many of us should know better, there are groups of people who can't and 
others for whom it may not be convenient.


The system is not in any way reliable, nor particularly defensible given 
there are any number of reasons why someone may encounter one of these 
not-ready-for-release releases.


Warren



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Re: 7.0.0 dp 5

2014-05-26 Thread Colin Holgate
During Kevin's thing he did tell us all to go try the new build that had just 
been posted. I'm guessing that was dp4. If you do a check for updates now, or 
even just open LiveCode, you’ll see you can install dp5.

One slightly confusing thing is that the installer is now just replacing the 
changed files, which means the main app is still named dp1. Also, the installer 
gives an error if you hadn’t quit LiveCode before trying the update.

Deleting the old version first solves the name issue.
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Re: 7.0.0 dp 5

2014-05-26 Thread Fraser Gordon
On 26/05/2014 08:27, Colin Holgate wrote:
> During Kevin's thing he did tell us all to go try the new build that had just 
> been posted. I'm guessing that was dp4. If you do a check for updates now, or 
> even just open LiveCode, you’ll see you can install dp5.

DP4 and DP5 have been officially released. The downloads web page
doesn't show any versions which we haven't deliberately made publicly
available. Unfortunately, we've been finding that the release emails
themselves sometimes get swallowed by the mailing list software as they
(apparently) resemble spam - personally, I'm interpreting this as the
start of the AI rebellion ;)

> One slightly confusing thing is that the installer is now just replacing the 
> changed files, which means the main app is still named dp1. Also, the 
> installer gives an error if you hadn’t quit LiveCode before trying the update.

That sounds very strange - the LiveCode installer is designed to install
a fresh copy of LiveCode each time rather than overwriting any existing
installations. If you have a recipe for this, please submit a bug report.

Regards,
Fraser

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Re: [ANN] DGH 2.0 is released - Open source

2014-05-26 Thread Vaughn Clement
Hi

Is this a update or a version change? I did not see the version in your
email or in the apps I own on the LC site?

Thank you

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On Sun, May 25, 2014 at 12:18 PM, zryip theSlug wrote:

> Dear List Members and DGH Users,
>
>
> DGH is now available under the AGPL license with an optional
> commercial license available.
>
>
> DGH engine improved:
> - DGH is now using improved codes for building properties topics, help
> topics and for generating ready to use scripts.
> - The editors for managing properties topics, help topics and for
> generating scripts have been removed. They were used internaly by DGH.
>
> Script improved:
> The "Select column" script has been improved. The text of the selected
> column was perfectly visible in all the situations.
>
> Bug Fixed:
> Naming a column "Background" is no longer possible. A column of this
> name could cause issues.
>
> Changes:
> The registration system has changed in the goal to make DGH compatible
> with the LiveCode Community version. Name and Key must be re-entered.
>
>
> The DGH Trial version is available by following this link:
> http://www.aslugontheroad.com/download/category/5-open-sources
>
> The Trial version has no updater and no way to register.
>
>
> The DGH Commercial version is still available in the LiveCode store
> and is now ready for the Community and Commercial LiveCode versions.
> https://livecode.com/store/marketplace/data-grid-helper-1-2-0/
>
>
>
> Best Regards,
> --
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Re: The "FIX:" is in

2014-05-26 Thread Peter M. Brigham
On May 18, 2014, at 10:19 PM, Mike Kerner wrote:

> Well, here goes, now there are two ide "FIX:" reports.

Sorry, just catching up on past posts, but I couldn't resist: Are we talking 
abut an "idee fixe" ??

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Re: [ANN] DGH 2.0 is released - Open source

2014-05-26 Thread Vaughn Clement
Hi

OK I saw where the updater in LC loaded the new content.

Thank you

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On Mon, May 26, 2014 at 6:06 AM, Vaughn Clement  wrote:

> Hi
>
> Is this a update or a version change? I did not see the version in your
> email or in the apps I own on the LC site?
>
> Thank you
>
> Vaughn Clement
>
> Apps by Vaughn Clement (Support)
> *http://www.appsbyvaughnclement.com/tools/home-page/
> *
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> https://secure.join.me/appsbyvclement
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> LogMeIn also avaialble
> Call on "ooVoo" at address:  vaughnclement or 9282549062
> Ph. 928-254-9062
>
>
>
> On Sun, May 25, 2014 at 12:18 PM, zryip theSlug 
> wrote:
>
>> Dear List Members and DGH Users,
>>
>>
>> DGH is now available under the AGPL license with an optional
>> commercial license available.
>>
>>
>> DGH engine improved:
>> - DGH is now using improved codes for building properties topics, help
>> topics and for generating ready to use scripts.
>> - The editors for managing properties topics, help topics and for
>> generating scripts have been removed. They were used internaly by DGH.
>>
>> Script improved:
>> The "Select column" script has been improved. The text of the selected
>> column was perfectly visible in all the situations.
>>
>> Bug Fixed:
>> Naming a column "Background" is no longer possible. A column of this
>> name could cause issues.
>>
>> Changes:
>> The registration system has changed in the goal to make DGH compatible
>> with the LiveCode Community version. Name and Key must be re-entered.
>>
>>
>> The DGH Trial version is available by following this link:
>> http://www.aslugontheroad.com/download/category/5-open-sources
>>
>> The Trial version has no updater and no way to register.
>>
>>
>> The DGH Commercial version is still available in the LiveCode store
>> and is now ready for the Community and Commercial LiveCode versions.
>> https://livecode.com/store/marketplace/data-grid-helper-1-2-0/
>>
>>
>>
>> Best Regards,
>> --
>> Zryip TheSlug
>> http://www.aslugontheroad.com
>>
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Re: The "FIX:" is in

2014-05-26 Thread Mark Wieder
Peter-

Monday, May 26, 2014, 6:07:59 AM, you wrote:

> On May 18, 2014, at 10:19 PM, Mike Kerner wrote:

>> Well, here goes, now there are two ide "FIX:" reports.

> Sorry, just catching up on past posts, but I couldn't resist: Are
> we talking abut an "idee fixe" ??

Pun aside, I also have no idea what this thread is about.

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Re: 7.0.0 dp 5

2014-05-26 Thread Mark Wieder
Fraser-

Monday, May 26, 2014, 3:55:29 AM, you wrote:

> DP4 and DP5 have been officially released.

Is that you speaking in an official capacity or just noting the fact?

> The downloads web page doesn't show any versions which we haven't
> deliberately made publicly available.

The release notes for dp5 show all the dp4 changes as being new for
the dp5 release, and no mention of dp4. Was dp4 ever "released"?

> Unfortunately, we've been finding that the release emails
> themselves sometimes get swallowed by the mailing list software

As I noted, every previous version has been accompanied by a release
announcement email which went out through the list, I have them
archived locally, and they are in the mail list archives. Was there
actually a release email for dp4? dp5? And somehow the mailing list
software swallowed it while all the previous ones got through?

...although I'm no stranger to on-rev email reliability issues...

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Re: The "FIX:" is in

2014-05-26 Thread Richard Gaskin

Mark Wieder wrote:


On May 18, 2014, at 10:19 PM, Mike Kerner wrote:



Well, here goes, now there are two ide "FIX:" reports.



Sorry, just catching up on past posts, but I couldn't resist: Are
we talking abut an "idee fixe" ??


Pun aside, I also have no idea what this thread is about.


I think he's referring to an EXPERIMENTAL protocol for submitting simple 
IDE bug fixes, which I'd introduced here a few days ago:



I have to stress that this is experimental - it certainly does no harm 
to provide fixes for simple things if you have the time, but it remains 
to be seen if this is going to be a benefit on the RunRev side of things.


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Unknown Deployment Platform.

2014-05-26 Thread Roger Guay
Sorry I haven’t kept up lately, but could someone please tell me what 
version(s) of Xcode works with LC v 6.6.1? I’m getting the subject error 
message with Xcode v 5.5.1.

Thanks!


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