[OT] Transparent Demo Screen

[Magicgate Software - Skip Kimpel]

Is there any software out there to create the "semi-transparent" demo
screen that you see sometimes when an app launches for the first time.
Yes, I could spend the time doing it in Photoshop but I was thinking there
might be something purpose driven out there already.

There seems to be some commonalty between the ones I have seen with curved
arrows and "handwritten" text.

Know of anything?

Your insight is always appreciated!

SKIP
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Re: open file tFile for text ?

[Thierry Douez]

Thanks Mark,

So you agree with me there is a wrong statement
in the dictionary: "write to file"

Thierry


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Maker of sunnYperl - sunnYmidi - sunnYmage


> If you use the binary or text clause, you also need to use one of the
> parameters update, read, write or append, for example
>
> open file myFile for text write
> open file myFile for binary append
>
> Mark Schonewille
>
>>
>> Dictionary -> write to file
>>
>> There is a sample script which generates an error:
>>
>> So, what does mean:
>>
>>  open file tFile for text  ?
>>
>>

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Re: Bug with diacriticals in folder names

[Bob Sneidar]

Sure! It’s called the, “Apple OS”. ;-) 

Not sure about the graphical stuff tho’. Also, not sure how you would go about 
installing it. 

Bob S


On Aug 18, 2014, at 11:02 , Alain Farmer  wrote:

> Hey! I found an easy workaround to the problem of diacriticals in folder 
> names.
> I got the list of paths by recursively getting all of the folders, including 
> the diacritical ones I had trouble with.
> The folders function lists these folders, but "there is a folder" reported 
> that diacritical ones did not exist.
> In LiveCode 6.6.2 [script editor], LC reports that there is no such folder 
> when the path contains diacritical(s).
> But when I store the paths into a file, encoded as UTF8, then read the file, 
> ALL of the folders with diacriticals EXIST!Thank you, Mark, for pointing out 
> that it is a unicode issue.
> Then I got lucky as I persevered.
> How gratifying! :-))
> 
> 
> 
> On Monday, August 18, 2014 12:16:57 AM, Alain Farmer  
> wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> Yup, thanks for confirming that, Mark.
> 
> 
> On Sunday, August 17, 2014 7:06:00 PM, Richard Gaskin 
>  wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> Mark Wieder wrote:
>> ...and indeed LC 7.0-dp8 does the right thing natively with
>> diacriticals in file/folder names without having to do any unicode
>> 
> transliterations.
> 
> Thanks for confirming that, Mark.
> 
> One more down.  Now I can focus on figuring out why font sizes seem 
> inappropriately large on Linux for layouts that look pretty consistent 
> on Mac and Win (are you seeing that?)
> 
> -- 
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>   Software Design and Development for the Desktop, Mobile, and the Web
>   
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Re: revDataFromQuery and DELETE FROM

[Bob Sneidar]

Or use sqlYoga! ;-)

Bob S


On Aug 18, 2014, at 02:43 , John Craig  wrote:

> Peter's correct - use revExecuteSQL since no records are returned
> 
> 
> On 17/08/2014 19:20, Peter Haworth wrote:
>> Hi Dan,
>> What is the text after "revdberr"?
>> 
>> Strange that the row is being deleted but here's a couple of things that
>> come to mind.
>> 
>> You've probably already checked that tTableName and entryID contain valid
>> information but one other thing to check is if the tablename includes any
>> special characters or if entryID contains non-numeric data.  In the first
>> case, the table name would have to be enclosed in double quotes and in the
>> second case, entryID would have to be enclosed in single quotes.
>> 
>> I'm not sure it really matters  but I always use revExecuteSQL when
>> executing anything other than a SELECT statement.
>> 
>> Pete
>> lcSQL Software 
>> Home of lcStackBrowser  and
>> SQLiteAdmin 
>> 
>> 
>> On Sun, Aug 17, 2014 at 9:41 AM, Dan Friedman 
>> wrote:
>> 
>>> Hello,
>>> 
>>> Can anyone tell me why this results in "revdberr"?
>>> 
>>> put "DELETE FROM" && tTableName && "WHERE entryID=" & entryID into tSQL
>>> put revDataFromQuery(tab, cr, gConnectionID, tSQL) into tData
>>> 
>>> What's interesting is that the record is being removed from the database.
>>> So it's all working server side, just that LiveCode is reporting "revdberr".
>>> 
>>> Anyone have any ideas?
>>> 
>>> Thanks in advance,
>>> Dan
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Re: Who says LiveCode ain't English!

[Peter Haworth]

if NoBeerIsLeft then
   dispatch ErrandBoy to LiquorStore with BeerOrder
end if

Pete
lcSQL Software 
Home of lcStackBrowser  and
SQLiteAdmin 


On Mon, Aug 18, 2014 at 1:22 PM, Sri  wrote:

> Add to Bernd's code:
>
> if morning contains headache then
>  call doctor
> else
>  order beer
> end if
>
>
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Re: User sets plug-ins folder and then gets angry.

[J. Landman Gay]

On 8/18/2014, 2:03 PM, Richmond wrote:

I opened the Preference of Livecode and set the path
for my Plug-ins folder via "Files & Memory" to:

/home/richmond/RunRev_plugINs

Then I Quit Livecode and put 2 plugins into that folder:

on restarting Livecode they did NOT show up in the

/Development/Plugins Menu . . .

Where did I go wrong?


You're making this too hard. Any plugin that starts with "rev" is 
intended to be part of the IDE, so typically you wouldn't name your 
plugins that way unless you want much of the IDE to ignore it. However, 
I have several that start with "rev" and they do show up in the menu 
list, so either you didn't set your plugin to be shown in the plugins 
menu or the path is wrong, or both.


The path should be to an enclosing folder, that contains a Plugins 
folder. Something like this: /home/richmond/LiveCode/
And inside that folder should be another folder named (exactly) 
"Plugins", which is where your plugins go.


If your goal is to load and run the plugin at startup automatically, 
then all you need to do (regardless of the stack name) is:


1. Open the plugins settings from the bottom of the plugins menu.
2. Find your stack in the popdown button (it needs to be in the right 
folder already.)

3. In "Open plugins when:" select "LiveCode starts up"
4. If you want it included in the plugins menu, tick "Include in Plugins 
menu"
5. Select the mode in which to open the stack. You may want it 
invisible, depending on how you plan to use it.


Then if you want something to happen when it opens, include a 
"preOpenStack" handler in the plugin that does the stuff you want to happen.



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Re: autoload a plugin?

[Mark Wieder]

Richmond  writes:

> Now, when I start up Livecode I want that stack to be loaded and visible
> at the same time as the revMenubar and the revTools stack.

Open Plugin Settings from the Development | Plugins menu
Select  from the list
Select "Open plugin when" : "LiveCode starts up

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Re: User sets plug-ins folder and then gets angry.

[Peter Haworth]

Hi Richmond,
The folder you name is the one that contains the plugins folder, not the
plugins folder itself so in your case /home/richmond.  But that's also
where your preferences are stored so you could have left it to what it was
set to before you changed it.

Pete
lcSQL Software 
Home of lcStackBrowser  and
SQLiteAdmin 


On Mon, Aug 18, 2014 at 12:03 PM, Richmond 
wrote:

> I opened the Preference of Livecode and set the path
> for my Plug-ins folder via "Files & Memory" to:
>
> /home/richmond/RunRev_plugINs
>
> Then I Quit Livecode and put 2 plugins into that folder:
>
> on restarting Livecode they did NOT show up in the
>
> /Development/Plugins Menu . . .
>
> Where did I go wrong?
>
> Richmond.
>
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Re: Who says LiveCode ain't English!

[Sri]

Add to Bernd's code:

if morning contains headache then
 call doctor
else
 order beer
end if



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Re: [OT] Virtual Desktops for Windows

[Richmond]

On 17/08/14 19:17, tbodine wrote:

Hi,

I like the idea of the virtual desktops, but have a concern:

If you had your LiveCode workspace in a virtual desktop (on Windows), does
this cause the locations and rectangles of controls and windows to be
reported with coordinates from the virtual location? Or do programs like
virtuawin adjust for that when you make a virtual desktop the active one?

Thanks,
Tom




Download them and try them out :)

Richmond.

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User sets plug-ins folder and then gets angry.

[Richmond]

I opened the Preference of Livecode and set the path
for my Plug-ins folder via "Files & Memory" to:

/home/richmond/RunRev_plugINs

Then I Quit Livecode and put 2 plugins into that folder:

on restarting Livecode they did NOT show up in the

/Development/Plugins Menu . . .

Where did I go wrong?

Richmond.

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Re: open file tFile for text ?

[Mark Schonewille]

Hi Thierry,

If you use the binary or text clause, you also need to use one of the 
parameters update, read, write or append, for example


open file myFile for text write
open file myFile for binary append

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On 8/18/2014 20:49, Thierry Douez wrote:

Hi,

Dictionary -> write to file

There is a sample script which generates an error:

So, what does mean:

 open file tFile for text  ?

Thierry

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open file tFile for text ?

[Thierry Douez]

Hi,

Dictionary -> write to file

There is a sample script which generates an error:

So, what does mean:

open file tFile for text  ?

Thierry

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Re: Who says LiveCode ain't English!

[Martin Koob]

Why is the mouse up? 

Is it the mouse that did the shopping?

Does 'end' mean the up mouse went down for a nap after a long shopping trip?

Martin





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Re: The Road Map as it now is . . . . .

[Paul Dupuis]

On 8/18/2014 1:58 PM, Richmond wrote:
> On 16/08/14 22:13, Richmond wrote:
>> AND . . .
>>
>> Open Language.
>>
>> This seems very awkward.
>>
>> Let us just suppose Fred Flintstone writes an extension to the
>> Livecode language (what is it called again?)
>> that is very clever . . .
>>
>> 1. Does he, somehow, infect all subsequent versions of Livecode with
>> his extension?
No, not unless RunRev makes arrangements to incorporate Fred's extension
into subsequent releases of LiveCode.
>>
>> 2. Does he make his extension extension available as a sort of patch
>> that other Livecode users can
>> choose to apply or not?

Yes, just like Add-Ons in the RunRev store or 3rd party extensions for
LiveCode. Open Language will allow a add-on/stack
library/external/whatever developer for LiveCode to have their widget
use similar natural language syntax that (most) of LiveCode uses.

>>
>> 3. How does this get into the Dictionary?

If I recall past public messaging on Open Language from RunRev
correctly, when you add-on/extension/whatever contains an open language
syntax defintion, their intent is to dynamically add it to the
dictionary when the add-on/extension/whatever is loaded.

>>
>> 4. Does it remain a sort of "in" secret between Fred and his chosen
>> sub-cult?

It is only Fred's secret if he (a) wants it to be or (b) fails to
communicate his add-on/extension's availability or (c) Fred tells
everyone and no one sees, reads, or remembers his posts. Just as with
any 3rd party add-on, library, or extension to LiveCode.

>>
>> Barney Rubble.
>
> What chance an answer to this?

100%

>
> Richmond.
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Re: How does one put 'rev' at the start of the name of a stack?

[Richmond]

On 18/08/14 21:18, Richmond wrote:

This:

"Using rev in the first three characters of a stack name
is reserved for use by the Revolution development
environment and advanced users creating Plug-ins. If
you use these characters, your stack may not behave
as expected."

certainly does NOT help.

I am pretending for a short period of time that I am
an advanced user, and am currently an effed-off user
(whether advanced or not) insofar as after that merry
message I am prevented from putting 'rev' in front of
the name of my would-be plug-in.



I am a bit slow on the uptake:

I typed this into my Message Box:

set the name of stack "ToolSpace" to "revToolSpace"

Hit RETURN, and LO; the Heavens opened . . .

Well, they didn't really, but I was able to put 'rev' at the start of 
the stack name

which, quite frankly, felt heavenly for a few short seconds :)

Richmond.


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Re: RELEASE: LiveCode 6.7 DP9

[Richmond]

On 18/08/14 21:17, dunb...@aol.com wrote:

Richmond.


My revTools stack opens in the last place I left it. For me, that is always in 
the topLeft of the screen. Never think about it.  I would be miffed as well if 
it opened in the center each new session.


Is that what you are seeing?

Of course it is; otherwise I would not be banging on about it :)

Richmond.


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Re: The Road Map as it now is . . . . .

[Richmond]

On 18/08/14 21:18, Charles E Buchwald wrote:

I was under the impression that the Open Language initiative is to follow the 
usual open source model, and have some kind of gatekeeper who includes new, 
useful, user-contributed additions to the latest release. I could be wrong 
about that, though.
- Charles


Um; Juvenal asked the inevitable question at least 2000 years ago: 
"/*Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?"


*/


On 18 Aug 2014, at 12:58 PM, Richmond  wrote:


On 16/08/14 22:13, Richmond wrote:

AND . . .

Open Language.

This seems very awkward.

Let us just suppose Fred Flintstone writes an extension to the Livecode 
language (what is it called again?)
that is very clever . . .

1. Does he, somehow, infect all subsequent versions of Livecode with his 
extension?

2. Does he make his extension extension available as a sort of patch that other 
Livecode users can
choose to apply or not?

3. How does this get into the Dictionary?

4. Does it remain a sort of "in" secret between Fred and his chosen sub-cult?

Barney Rubble.

What chance an answer to this?

Richmond.

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How does one put 'rev' at the start of the name of a stack?

[Richmond]

This:

"Using rev in the first three characters of a stack name
is reserved for use by the Revolution development
environment and advanced users creating Plug-ins. If
you use these characters, your stack may not behave
as expected."

certainly does NOT help.

I am pretending for a short period of time that I am
an advanced user, and am currently an effed-off user
(whether advanced or not) insofar as after that merry
message I am prevented from putting 'rev' in front of
the name of my would-be plug-in.

Richmond.

Oh, and while I'm here:

What is "the Revolution development environment"?

I thought I was the one who went Back to the Future and not

"the Livecode development environment."

Mumblings . . .

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Re: The Road Map as it now is . . . . .

[Charles E Buchwald]

I was under the impression that the Open Language initiative is to follow the 
usual open source model, and have some kind of gatekeeper who includes new, 
useful, user-contributed additions to the latest release. I could be wrong 
about that, though.
- Charles

On 18 Aug 2014, at 12:58 PM, Richmond  wrote:

> On 16/08/14 22:13, Richmond wrote:
>> AND . . .
>> 
>> Open Language.
>> 
>> This seems very awkward.
>> 
>> Let us just suppose Fred Flintstone writes an extension to the Livecode 
>> language (what is it called again?)
>> that is very clever . . .
>> 
>> 1. Does he, somehow, infect all subsequent versions of Livecode with his 
>> extension?
>> 
>> 2. Does he make his extension extension available as a sort of patch that 
>> other Livecode users can
>> choose to apply or not?
>> 
>> 3. How does this get into the Dictionary?
>> 
>> 4. Does it remain a sort of "in" secret between Fred and his chosen sub-cult?
>> 
>> Barney Rubble.
> 
> What chance an answer to this?
> 
> Richmond.
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Re: RELEASE: LiveCode 6.7 DP9

[dunbarx]

Richmond.


My revTools stack opens in the last place I left it. For me, that is always in 
the topLeft of the screen. Never think about it.  I would be miffed as well if 
it opened in the center each new session.


Is that what you are seeing?


Craig



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From: Richmond 
To: How to use LiveCode 
Sent: Mon, Aug 18, 2014 1:22 pm
Subject: Re: RELEASE: LiveCode 6.7 DP9


Why, Oh Why? Tell me why!

Do all Livecode versions open with the revTools stack in the centre
of the screen?

Richmond.

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Re: autoload a plugin?

[Charles E Buchwald]

Hi Richmond,

I'd like to add this in to my (free) lcMover plugin.
If you'll share your "wee stack" I could add it in and put your name in the 
credits...

FYI, it already has a function to reposition any IDE windows that have been 
placed off screen. For example if you happened to be working on 2 monitors the 
last time you were in LC, and now you are on one monitor, and the dictionary or 
script editor are off screen...

- Charles

On 18 Aug 2014, at 12:32 PM, Richmond  wrote:

> Let us suppose that I have just authored a wee stack to allow Livecoders
> who are fed up with having to fool around dragging the revTools stack out
> of the centre of the desktop.
> 
> Now I am going to put that wee stack in the plugins folder.
> 
> Now, when I start up Livecode I want that stack to be loaded and visible
> at the same time as the revMenubar and the revTools stack.
> 
> 
> 
> Richmond.
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Re: Bug with diacriticals in folder names

[Alain Farmer]

Hey! I found an easy workaround to the problem of diacriticals in folder names.
I got the list of paths by recursively getting all of the folders, including 
the diacritical ones I had trouble with.
The folders function lists these folders, but "there is a folder" reported that 
diacritical ones did not exist.
In LiveCode 6.6.2 [script editor], LC reports that there is no such folder when 
the path contains diacritical(s).
But when I store the paths into a file, encoded as UTF8, then read the file, 
ALL of the folders with diacriticals EXIST!Thank you, Mark, for pointing out 
that it is a unicode issue.
Then I got lucky as I persevered.
How gratifying! :-))



On Monday, August 18, 2014 12:16:57 AM, Alain Farmer  
wrote:
 


Yup, thanks for confirming that, Mark.


On Sunday, August 17, 2014 7:06:00 PM, Richard Gaskin 
 wrote:
 


Mark Wieder wrote:
> ...and indeed LC 7.0-dp8 does the right thing natively with
> diacriticals in file/folder names without having to do any unicode
>
 transliterations.

Thanks for confirming that, Mark.

One more down.  Now I can focus on figuring out why font sizes seem 
inappropriately large on Linux for layouts that look pretty consistent 
on Mac and Win (are you seeing that?)

-- 
  Richard Gaskin
  Fourth World Systems
  Software Design and Development for the Desktop, Mobile, and the Web
  
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Re: The Road Map as it now is . . . . .

[Richmond]

On 16/08/14 22:13, Richmond wrote:

AND . . .

Open Language.

This seems very awkward.

Let us just suppose Fred Flintstone writes an extension to the 
Livecode language (what is it called again?)

that is very clever . . .

1. Does he, somehow, infect all subsequent versions of Livecode with 
his extension?


2. Does he make his extension extension available as a sort of patch 
that other Livecode users can

choose to apply or not?

3. How does this get into the Dictionary?

4. Does it remain a sort of "in" secret between Fred and his chosen 
sub-cult?


Barney Rubble.


What chance an answer to this?

Richmond.

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Re: autoload a plugin?

[Richmond]

On 18/08/14 20:32, Richmond wrote:

Let us suppose that I have just authored a wee stack to allow Livecoders
who are fed up with having to fool around dragging the revTools stack out
of the centre of the desktop.

Now I am going to put that wee stack in the plugins folder.

Now, when I start up Livecode I want that stack to be loaded and visible
at the same time as the revMenubar and the revTools stack.



Richmond.


Joy:

http://www.troz.net/rev/index.irev?category=Plugin#stacks

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autoload a plugin?

[Richmond]

Let us suppose that I have just authored a wee stack to allow Livecoders
who are fed up with having to fool around dragging the revTools stack out
of the centre of the desktop.

Now I am going to put that wee stack in the plugins folder.

Now, when I start up Livecode I want that stack to be loaded and visible
at the same time as the revMenubar and the revTools stack.



Richmond.

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Re: Who says LiveCode ain't English!

[Walt Brown]

*if* the hunger of me is great *then* *ask* omelet with cheese, ham and
potatoes

*else* *if* the hunger of me is small *then* *get* pretzel box


On Mon, Aug 18, 2014 at 8:11 AM, FlexibleLearning.com <
ad...@flexiblelearning.com> wrote:

> For fun, writing a story using LiveCode syntax without a compile error...
>
> on mouseUp
>   go to shop
>   if shop is not open then return home
>   get groceries, coffee and milk
>   go back home
>   put groceries into fridge
> end mouseUp
>
> How long can we make it?
>
> Hugh Senior
> FLCo
>
>
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Re: Displaying HTML pages

[Scott Rossi]

If your eBooks are heavily formatted and you need to keep the formatting
intact, htmlText won't be a good solution because the formatting won't
come across.

One option could be to write your eBook files to a local folder
(Documents, for example) and load them in the browser control.

Regards,

Scott Rossi
Creative Director
Tactile Media, UX/UI Design




On 8/18/14 7:58 AM, "Linda Miller, DVM"  wrote:

>I have several ebooks that are composed using HTML/CSS and maybe some
>JavaScript.  I know that I can use HTMLtext to display the pages.
>
>For example,
>on mouseUp
>   put url "http://www.mobgui.com"; into temp
>   set the htmlText of field "test" to temp
>end mouseUp
>
>But, this displays only black text on white background without any images
>or other formatting. As LiveCode exists today (before the HTML5 version
>is completed), is there a way to display HTML/CSS pages with images from
>a file that is imported into the app? By imported, I mean files that are
>a part of the app that can be used when there is no Internet connection.
>
>Also, the hyperlinks do not seem to work when the mobgui.com page is
>being displayed. Will hyperlinks work in LiveCode today?
>
>Thanks,
>Linda
>
>
>
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Re: RELEASE: LiveCode 6.7 DP9

[Richmond]

Why, Oh Why? Tell me why!

Do all Livecode versions open with the revTools stack in the centre
of the screen?

Richmond.

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RELEASE: LiveCode 6.7 DP9

[Benjamin Beaumont]

Dear List Members.

We are pleased to announce the release of LiveCode 6.7 DP9.

*Release Focus*
29 bug fixes

*Known issues*
Multicore rendering disabled in Windows due to multimedia not being
thread-safe
16 outstanding reports against 6.7: http://bit.ly/XvgSSw

*Release contents*
The number of bugs fixed is so large that it no longer makes sense to
include a summary in the release email. Instead, please look at the bug fix
section of the release notes which can be found here:

http://downloads.livecode.com/livecode/6_7_0/LiveCodeNotes-6_7_0_dp_9.pdf

*Multicore Rendering*
We've updated the way LiveCode renders on all platforms. It now splits your
stack up into as many section as there are CPU cores. Each core renders
portion of your stack which in theory improves rendering performance by the
number of core available. In practice this isn't the case as there are
overheads associated with this approach. The performance improvements will
be felt in fairly specific circumstances at the moment as there are a
number limitations in the engine we're still trying to remove. However, as
this is the final feature to go into LiveCode 6.7 we felt it important to
get it into testing early.

We've seen a number of glitches on Retina Mac but we would appreciate your
help in identifying the edge cases on other platforms. It is also possible
that some instability will have been introduced. LiveCode was not written
with multicore processing in mind so we have been updating the engine where
necessary to be "thread-safe". If you app crashes please try and reproduce
the crash and report it to us as it will lead us to the parts of the engine
that need a similar update. We think we've caught the majority but once
again, there may be some edge cases that your project exercises that our
test system does not cover.

In the next few builds as we mature the feature we'll release a few simple
sample stack that exercise the cores available on your machine.

*Getting this release*
http://downloads.livecode.com/livecode/

*Feeding Back*
Please report any issues at quality.runrev.com. Where possible, please
check the list of outstanding bugs at the link above to ensure you are not
duplicating a report. Having said that, our team is here to help so we’ll
mark duplicate bugs as they come in.

Warm regards,

The LiveCode Team
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Re: Who says LiveCode ain't English!

[Peter Haworth]

On Mon, Aug 18, 2014 at 9:04 AM,  wrote:

> if the drunkenness of me is great then play stop


I might suggest the following instead of the above

if this me is drunk or SpeechIsImpaired() then play stop

Pete
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Re: Church bell app?

[Peter Haworth]

The big sound system companies have departments that specialize in selling
to churches, it's big business. Most of the church systems I've seen are
huge overkill so the $6000 price tag doesn't surprise me at all. More often
than not, nobody at the church has a clue as to how to use them, except to
switch them on and off.

Pete
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Home of lcStackBrowser  and
SQLiteAdmin 


On Mon, Aug 18, 2014 at 9:16 AM, J. Landman Gay 
wrote:

> It also isn't clear whether the bell should be just a single tone or if it
> needs to play music.  The cost of the original proposed system implies
> there is more to it than just a single bell.
>
> On August 18, 2014 9:52:54 AM CDT, dunb...@aol.com wrote:
> >The idea was to be able to start the bell at specific times, perhaps
> >for specific intervals.
>
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Re: Church bell app?

[J. Landman Gay]

It also isn't clear whether the bell should be just a single tone or if it 
needs to play music.  The cost of the original proposed system implies there is 
more to it than just a single bell. 

On August 18, 2014 9:52:54 AM CDT, dunb...@aol.com wrote:
>The idea was to be able to start the bell at specific times, perhaps
>for specific intervals. 

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Re: Who says LiveCode ain't English!

[BNig]

Craig,

sorry, it was just a piece of code to add to Hugh's initial handler, he
asked "how long can we make it"

anyways I was surprised it compiled at all.

Kind regards



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Re: Who says LiveCode ain't English!

[dunbarx]

Bernd.


That was not the handler I got. It was;



 repeat for each item bottle in my fridge
  put drink into my glass
  repeat until my glass is empty
 drink beer
 repeat with cheers =  toast to you wrap glass
skol
 end repeat
  end repeat
  if the bottle of the fridge of me is empty then next repeat
  if the drunkenness of me is great then play stop
   end repeat



-Original Message-
From: BNig 
To: use-revolution 
Sent: Mon, Aug 18, 2014 11:07 am
Subject: Re: Who says LiveCode ain't English!


Hi Craig,

>> Now, Bernd, however such a thing makes me smile, it will not compile, as
>> you well know

I took it straight from the script editor after a compile, did you try to
compile it? After all that was the deal.

below the complete script that compiled in 6.6.2

--- 
on mouseUp
   go to shop
   if shop  is not open then return home
   get groceries, coffee and milk, butter and beer
   go back home
   put groceries into fridge
   repeat for each item bottle in my fridge
  put drink into my glass
  repeat until my glass is empty
 drink beer
 repeat with cheers =  toast to you wrap glass
skol
 end repeat
  end repeat
  if the bottle of the fridge of me is empty then next repeat
  if the drunkenness of me is great then play stop
   end repeat
end mouseUp
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Re: Church bell app?

[dunbarx]

So then LC may be the solution, since it can play any sort of sound. That it 
can also play those sounds when you want it to is just lagniappe.


Craig



-Original Message-
From: Mike Kerner 
To: How to use LiveCode 
Sent: Mon, Aug 18, 2014 10:59 am
Subject: Re: Church bell app?


Steampunking is always great.  For church bells, part of the problem will
be getting the tone, cadence, etc. the way you want it.  That was what I
was trying to point out with the goal horns app - that you might be able to
reproduce the sound of the sort of bells, chimes, etc. that you want.  If
you go to a garden store, think about all the different windchimes that are
sold and how different they are between brands, sizes, materials, coatings,
etc.  Some manufacturers take great care in tuning their chimes just so,
trying to get a certain decay and harmony.  The same can be said of bells.


On Mon, Aug 18, 2014 at 10:52 AM,  wrote:

> The idea was to be able to start the bell at specific times, perhaps for
> specific intervals. Certainly an off the shelf electronic timer could do
> that job.
>
>
> Not as much fun though. In a project I did a couple of years ago in the
> middle east, an event had to be executed for the five prayer times each
> day. Or rather a process had to be stopped for those times. These varied at
> different times of the year, since dawn did not seem to be a constant. Try
> that with a simple timer.
>
>
> Overkill for the sheer fun of it is a matter of style. Perhaps the OP will
> give more specifics as to the requirements, to see if an old laptop and LC
> with an interface gadget or a $50 timer is appropriate.
>
>
> Craig Newman
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Rick Harrison 
> To: How to use LiveCode 
> Sent: Mon, Aug 18, 2014 10:12 am
> Subject: Re: Church bell app?
>
>
> Hi there,
>
> The idea that the church bell needs an app is total overkill.
>
> Get a simple Radioshack or Home Depot wireless doorbell
> type device and hook up the output to a relay that turns on
> the amplifier and the bell tone.  (Many times the relay is included,
> because that’s how it works!)  Even “The Clapper” might be
> a cheap solution for this at $20.
>
> Also look at the http://www.insteon.com
>
> There is no way this project should be $6,000 or more.
> Someone is gouging you with that pricey solution.
>
> I’ve done things like this all the time.  It’s easy, and you
> don’t need an app for it.
>
> Just my 2 cents.
>
> Rick
>
>
> On Aug 18, 2014, at 3:23 AM, Richmond  wrote:
>
> > On 18/08/14 05:54, Peter Bogdanoff wrote:
> >> Obviously, Richmond, if the bell is tolling, it is not tolling for thee.
> >>
> >> It seems that $6000 will pay the electrical bill for that amplifier to
> be
> left turned on for a long time.
> >>
> >> Peter
> >> UCLA
> >>
> >>
> >
> > Not at $6000 it isn't!
> >
> > Quasimodo.
> >
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Re: ListMagic highlight color

[JB]

The problem comes from using the answer dialog within
the script. After using it the field will not select the proper
color on the lines.

A simple fix is to not use the answer dialog from within
the list magic field.

John Balgenorth


On Aug 18, 2014, at 6:57 AM, JB  wrote:

> I have a handler that when I double click a line
> it gives me the option to delete the line.  I can
> either cancel or delete the line and update the
> list.
> 
> The problem is it changes my blue line selection
> to gray and I want to have it selected blue again.
> How do I update the selected line color to the
> original line color ListMagic installed for lines?
> 
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Re: Displaying HTML pages

[Mark Schonewille]

Hi Linda,

Actually, if a website is composed of simple HTML 4, the pictures should 
show up in the field. Perhaps they are hidden by lines with very small 
lineheights. Try setting the fixedLineHeight to false. Does that help?


You could use the revBrowser external to display websites in their own 
window inside a LiveCode stack. Just search for revBrowser in the 
LiveCode dictionary and start reading to find out how to implement this.


Hyperlinks in fields don't work by themselves. You could handle clicks 
on linkes with a linkedClick handler, e.g.


on linkClicked theLink
  launch URL theLink
end linkClicked

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On 8/18/2014 16:58, Linda Miller, DVM wrote:

I have several ebooks that are composed using HTML/CSS and maybe some 
JavaScript.  I know that I can use HTMLtext to display the pages.

For example,
on mouseUp
put url "http://www.mobgui.com"; into temp
set the htmlText of field "test" to temp
end mouseUp

But, this displays only black text on white background without any images or 
other formatting. As LiveCode exists today (before the HTML5 version is 
completed), is there a way to display HTML/CSS pages with images from a file 
that is imported into the app? By imported, I mean files that are a part of the 
app that can be used when there is no Internet connection.

Also, the hyperlinks do not seem to work when the mobgui.com page is being 
displayed. Will hyperlinks work in LiveCode today?

Thanks,
Linda




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Re: Who says LiveCode ain't English!

[BNig]

Hi Craig,

>> Now, Bernd, however such a thing makes me smile, it will not compile, as
>> you well know

I took it straight from the script editor after a compile, did you try to
compile it? After all that was the deal.

below the complete script that compiled in 6.6.2

--- 
on mouseUp
   go to shop
   if shop  is not open then return home
   get groceries, coffee and milk, butter and beer
   go back home
   put groceries into fridge
   repeat for each item bottle in my fridge
  put drink into my glass
  repeat until my glass is empty
 drink beer
 repeat with cheers =  toast to you wrap glass
skol
 end repeat
  end repeat
  if the bottle of the fridge of me is empty then next repeat
  if the drunkenness of me is great then play stop
   end repeat
end mouseUp
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Displaying HTML pages

[Linda Miller, DVM]

I have several ebooks that are composed using HTML/CSS and maybe some 
JavaScript.  I know that I can use HTMLtext to display the pages.

For example,
on mouseUp
   put url "http://www.mobgui.com"; into temp
   set the htmlText of field "test" to temp
end mouseUp

But, this displays only black text on white background without any images or 
other formatting. As LiveCode exists today (before the HTML5 version is 
completed), is there a way to display HTML/CSS pages with images from a file 
that is imported into the app? By imported, I mean files that are a part of the 
app that can be used when there is no Internet connection.

Also, the hyperlinks do not seem to work when the mobgui.com page is being 
displayed. Will hyperlinks work in LiveCode today?

Thanks,
Linda




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Re: Who says LiveCode ain't English!

[dunbarx]

Now, Bernd, however such a thing makes me smile, it will not compile, as you 
well know. Are you sure you were not testing this physically, as opposed to in 
LC, when you wrote it?


Craig





 repeat for each item bottle in my fridge
  put drink into my glass
  repeat until my glass is empty
 drink beer
 repeat with cheers =  toast to you wrap glass
skol
 end repeat
  end repeat
  if the bottle of the fridge of me is empty then next repeat
  if the drunkenness of me is great then play stop
   end repeat





-Original Message-
From: BNig 
To: use-revolution 
Sent: Mon, Aug 18, 2014 10:53 am
Subject: Re: Who says LiveCode ain't English!


   repeat for each item bottle in my fridge
  put drink into my glass
  repeat until my glass is empty
 drink beer
 repeat with cheers =  toast to you wrap glass
skol
 end repeat
  end repeat
  if the bottle of the fridge of me is empty then next repeat
  if the drunkenness of me is great then play stop
   end repeat

Kind regards
Bernd



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Re: Church bell app?

[Mike Kerner]

Steampunking is always great.  For church bells, part of the problem will
be getting the tone, cadence, etc. the way you want it.  That was what I
was trying to point out with the goal horns app - that you might be able to
reproduce the sound of the sort of bells, chimes, etc. that you want.  If
you go to a garden store, think about all the different windchimes that are
sold and how different they are between brands, sizes, materials, coatings,
etc.  Some manufacturers take great care in tuning their chimes just so,
trying to get a certain decay and harmony.  The same can be said of bells.


On Mon, Aug 18, 2014 at 10:52 AM,  wrote:

> The idea was to be able to start the bell at specific times, perhaps for
> specific intervals. Certainly an off the shelf electronic timer could do
> that job.
>
>
> Not as much fun though. In a project I did a couple of years ago in the
> middle east, an event had to be executed for the five prayer times each
> day. Or rather a process had to be stopped for those times. These varied at
> different times of the year, since dawn did not seem to be a constant. Try
> that with a simple timer.
>
>
> Overkill for the sheer fun of it is a matter of style. Perhaps the OP will
> give more specifics as to the requirements, to see if an old laptop and LC
> with an interface gadget or a $50 timer is appropriate.
>
>
> Craig Newman
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Rick Harrison 
> To: How to use LiveCode 
> Sent: Mon, Aug 18, 2014 10:12 am
> Subject: Re: Church bell app?
>
>
> Hi there,
>
> The idea that the church bell needs an app is total overkill.
>
> Get a simple Radioshack or Home Depot wireless doorbell
> type device and hook up the output to a relay that turns on
> the amplifier and the bell tone.  (Many times the relay is included,
> because that’s how it works!)  Even “The Clapper” might be
> a cheap solution for this at $20.
>
> Also look at the http://www.insteon.com
>
> There is no way this project should be $6,000 or more.
> Someone is gouging you with that pricey solution.
>
> I’ve done things like this all the time.  It’s easy, and you
> don’t need an app for it.
>
> Just my 2 cents.
>
> Rick
>
>
> On Aug 18, 2014, at 3:23 AM, Richmond  wrote:
>
> > On 18/08/14 05:54, Peter Bogdanoff wrote:
> >> Obviously, Richmond, if the bell is tolling, it is not tolling for thee.
> >>
> >> It seems that $6000 will pay the electrical bill for that amplifier to
> be
> left turned on for a long time.
> >>
> >> Peter
> >> UCLA
> >>
> >>
> >
> > Not at $6000 it isn't!
> >
> > Quasimodo.
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Re: Church bell app?

[dunbarx]

The idea was to be able to start the bell at specific times, perhaps for 
specific intervals. Certainly an off the shelf electronic timer could do that 
job.


Not as much fun though. In a project I did a couple of years ago in the middle 
east, an event had to be executed for the five prayer times each day. Or rather 
a process had to be stopped for those times. These varied at different times of 
the year, since dawn did not seem to be a constant. Try that with a simple 
timer.


Overkill for the sheer fun of it is a matter of style. Perhaps the OP will give 
more specifics as to the requirements, to see if an old laptop and LC with an 
interface gadget or a $50 timer is appropriate.


Craig Newman







-Original Message-
From: Rick Harrison 
To: How to use LiveCode 
Sent: Mon, Aug 18, 2014 10:12 am
Subject: Re: Church bell app?


Hi there,

The idea that the church bell needs an app is total overkill.

Get a simple Radioshack or Home Depot wireless doorbell
type device and hook up the output to a relay that turns on
the amplifier and the bell tone.  (Many times the relay is included,
because that’s how it works!)  Even “The Clapper” might be
a cheap solution for this at $20.

Also look at the http://www.insteon.com

There is no way this project should be $6,000 or more.
Someone is gouging you with that pricey solution.

I’ve done things like this all the time.  It’s easy, and you
don’t need an app for it.

Just my 2 cents.

Rick


On Aug 18, 2014, at 3:23 AM, Richmond  wrote:

> On 18/08/14 05:54, Peter Bogdanoff wrote:
>> Obviously, Richmond, if the bell is tolling, it is not tolling for thee.
>> 
>> It seems that $6000 will pay the electrical bill for that amplifier to be 
left turned on for a long time.
>> 
>> Peter
>> UCLA
>> 
>> 
> 
> Not at $6000 it isn't!
> 
> Quasimodo.
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Re: Who says LiveCode ain't English!

[BNig]

   repeat for each item bottle in my fridge
  put drink into my glass
  repeat until my glass is empty
 drink beer
 repeat with cheers =  toast to you wrap glass
skol
 end repeat
  end repeat
  if the bottle of the fridge of me is empty then next repeat
  if the drunkenness of me is great then play stop
   end repeat

Kind regards
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Re: Church bell app?

[Rick Harrison]

Hi there,

The idea that the church bell needs an app is total overkill.

Get a simple Radioshack or Home Depot wireless doorbell
type device and hook up the output to a relay that turns on
the amplifier and the bell tone.  (Many times the relay is included,
because that’s how it works!)  Even “The Clapper” might be
a cheap solution for this at $20.

Also look at the http://www.insteon.com

There is no way this project should be $6,000 or more.
Someone is gouging you with that pricey solution.

I’ve done things like this all the time.  It’s easy, and you
don’t need an app for it.

Just my 2 cents.

Rick


On Aug 18, 2014, at 3:23 AM, Richmond  wrote:

> On 18/08/14 05:54, Peter Bogdanoff wrote:
>> Obviously, Richmond, if the bell is tolling, it is not tolling for thee.
>> 
>> It seems that $6000 will pay the electrical bill for that amplifier to be 
>> left turned on for a long time.
>> 
>> Peter
>> UCLA
>> 
>> 
> 
> Not at $6000 it isn't!
> 
> Quasimodo.
> 
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ListMagic highlight color

[JB]

I have a handler that when I double click a line
it gives me the option to delete the line.  I can
either cancel or delete the line and update the
list.

The problem is it changes my blue line selection
to gray and I want to have it selected blue again.
How do I update the selected line color to the
original line color ListMagic installed for lines?

John Balgenorth

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Re: Who says LiveCode ain't English!

[Richmond]

On 18/08/14 15:11, FlexibleLearning.com wrote:

For fun, writing a story using LiveCode syntax without a compile error...

on mouseUp
   go to shop
   if shop is not open then return home
   get groceries, coffee and milk
   go back home
   put groceries into fridge
end mouseUp

How long can we make it?

Hugh Senior
FLCo



on mouseUp
  go to shoppingCentre
 if cheeseShop is not open
put "Hard Cheese!"
 else
get cheese
put it after fld "shopping bought"
 end if
 if wineShop is not open
put "Drink water instead!"
 else
get wine
put "," && it after fld "shopping bought"
 end if
 if fruitShop is not open
put "Scurvy tomorrow!"
 else
get fruit
put "," && it after fld "shopping bought"
 end if
 if meatShop is open
put "Hey, I thought you were a vegetarian!"
 end if
if fishShop is open
put "Hey, I thought you were a vegetarian!"
 end if
 go back home
answer "Are your feet up?" with "UP" and "NO"
  if it = "NO" then
   put "Put your feet up!"
  else
   put "Have a good rest!"
  end if
end mouseUP

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Re: Who says LiveCode ain't English!

[dunbarx]

Why not:


set the fun of it to the satisfaction of it



-Original Message-
From: FlexibleLearning.com 
To: use-livecode 
Sent: Mon, Aug 18, 2014 8:12 am
Subject: Who says LiveCode ain't English!


For fun, writing a story using LiveCode syntax without a compile error...

on mouseUp
  go to shop
  if shop is not open then return home
  get groceries, coffee and milk
  go back home
  put groceries into fridge
end mouseUp

How long can we make it?

Hugh Senior
FLCo



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Re: Who says LiveCode ain't English!

[Klaus major-k]

Hi Hugh,

Am 18.08.2014 um 14:11 schrieb FlexibleLearning.com 
:

> For fun, writing a story using LiveCode syntax without a compile error...
> 
> on mouseUp
>  go to shop
>  if shop is not open then return home
>  get groceries, coffee and milk
>  go back home
>  put groceries into fridge
> end mouseUp
> 
> How long can we make it?

may depend on the size of your fridge! :-D

> Hugh Senior
> FLCo

Best

Klaus

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local notification question

[Klaus major-k]

Hi friends,

I am currently diving into "local notifications" and actually understand
the mechanisms how they work when the app is open or closed.

I know that I need to store all infos about the scheduled notification
like their ID (from the result) etc.

Now my question:

The message "localnotificationreceived themessage" will only hold the 
"alertpayload" I supplied with "mobileCreateLocalNotification..." as its
parameter.

So in case I stored all infos about my scheduled notifications in a SQLite db
I would need to do something like this to get all other infos associated this 
notification:

## Pseudocode:
on localnotificationreceived themessage
  put "SELECT * from notififcations where tPayLoad =" & themessage into tSQL
...
Is that correct? 
Know what I mean?

Thanks a lot in advance!


Best

Klaus


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Who says LiveCode ain't English!

[FlexibleLearning.com]

For fun, writing a story using LiveCode syntax without a compile error...

on mouseUp
  go to shop
  if shop is not open then return home
  get groceries, coffee and milk
  go back home
  put groceries into fridge
end mouseUp

How long can we make it?

Hugh Senior
FLCo



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Re: revDataFromQuery and DELETE FROM

[John Craig]

Peter's correct - use revExecuteSQL since no records are returned


On 17/08/2014 19:20, Peter Haworth wrote:

Hi Dan,
What is the text after "revdberr"?

Strange that the row is being deleted but here's a couple of things that
come to mind.

You've probably already checked that tTableName and entryID contain valid
information but one other thing to check is if the tablename includes any
special characters or if entryID contains non-numeric data.  In the first
case, the table name would have to be enclosed in double quotes and in the
second case, entryID would have to be enclosed in single quotes.

I'm not sure it really matters  but I always use revExecuteSQL when
executing anything other than a SELECT statement.

Pete
lcSQL Software 
Home of lcStackBrowser  and
SQLiteAdmin 


On Sun, Aug 17, 2014 at 9:41 AM, Dan Friedman 
wrote:


Hello,

Can anyone tell me why this results in "revdberr"?

put "DELETE FROM" && tTableName && "WHERE entryID=" & entryID into tSQL
put revDataFromQuery(tab, cr, gConnectionID, tSQL) into tData

What's interesting is that the record is being removed from the database.
So it's all working server side, just that LiveCode is reporting "revdberr".

Anyone have any ideas?

Thanks in advance,
Dan
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Re: Church bell app?

[Richmond]

On 18/08/14 05:54, Peter Bogdanoff wrote:

Obviously, Richmond, if the bell is tolling, it is not tolling for thee.

It seems that $6000 will pay the electrical bill for that amplifier to be left 
turned on for a long time.

Peter
UCLA




Not at $6000 it isn't!

Quasimodo.

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