POST command and Previous Request Not completed

2015-06-20 Thread Klaus major-k
Hi friends,

I have a little understanding problem. 8-)

Say we have some POST commands and fire them one after another.

Now according to the docs, the POST command is blocking, so we should 
NOT see the error dialog Previous Request Not completed“ any time, right?

But under some (mysterious) circumstances we actually do, what am I missing?

Thanks a lot for any insight!


Best

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Re: Do new Livecode 8 widgets work on mobile?

2015-06-20 Thread Ali Lloyd
Hi David,

If you do
 put true into gRevDevelopment
in the message box you'll find break points are honoured and you can also
use the contextual menu to find the function you're looking for.

Ali

On Saturday, 20 June 2015, David Bovill david@viral.academy wrote:

 Isn't it crazy that given how easy it is to edit and change / fix LiveCode
 IDE stacks we are still waiting for the mothership to fix simple errors
 like this instead of patching them and submitting fixes ourselves?

 The code is:

 on mouseUp
 answer What version of XCode do you have installed? with 4.2 or
  earlier and 4.3 or later
 if it contains 4.3 then
answer file Select your XCode app bundle with filter APPL
if it is not empty then
   put /Contents/Developer after it
end if
 else
answer folder Please choose the developer root for your iOS 5.0
 and
  above SDK
 end if
 if it is not empty then
if *revIDEDeployIOSIsValidSDK*(it) then
 
  * setIOSSdk it*
 
else
   answer error The chosen folder is not a valid iOS SDK.
end if
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  end mouseUp
 

 I can't find exactly where the *setIOSSdk *handler is. I guess the error
 is in the revIDEDeployIOSIsValidSDK() function - which I can;t find either.
 Any tips with regard to how to debug IDE errors - given the debugger seems
 to get a bit flaky when debugging the IDE - checkpoints are not recognised?

 On 19 June 2015 at 23:41, Dave Kilroy d...@applicationinsight.com
 javascript:; wrote:

  Sorry I must have given you bad advice - I just installed Xcode 6.3.1 and
  it
  didn't work with LC 8 dp1 or dp2 - maybe when LC 8 came out in early
 April
  I
  was using Xcode 6.3.0 - I was also probably running an earlier version of
  iOS...
 
  I think unless we can recreate the same conditions in our development AND
  test machines to those we had in early April that we are stuffed until
 they
  bring out dp3
 
 
 
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Re: Do new Livecode 8 widgets work on mobile?

2015-06-20 Thread David Bovill
Thanks ALI - that helps - made a start on a patch :)

On 20 June 2015 at 09:47, Ali Lloyd a...@runrev.com wrote:

 Hi David,

 If you do
  put true into gRevDevelopment
 in the message box you'll find break points are honoured and you can also
 use the contextual menu to find the function you're looking for.

 Ali

 On Saturday, 20 June 2015, David Bovill david@viral.academy wrote:

  Isn't it crazy that given how easy it is to edit and change / fix
 LiveCode
  IDE stacks we are still waiting for the mothership to fix simple errors
  like this instead of patching them and submitting fixes ourselves?
 
  The code is:
 
  on mouseUp
  answer What version of XCode do you have installed? with 4.2 or
   earlier and 4.3 or later
  if it contains 4.3 then
 answer file Select your XCode app bundle with filter APPL
 if it is not empty then
put /Contents/Developer after it
 end if
  else
 answer folder Please choose the developer root for your iOS 5.0
  and
   above SDK
  end if
  if it is not empty then
 if *revIDEDeployIOSIsValidSDK*(it) then
  
   * setIOSSdk it*
  
 else
answer error The chosen folder is not a valid iOS SDK.
 end if
  end if
   end mouseUp
  
 
  I can't find exactly where the *setIOSSdk *handler is. I guess the
 error
  is in the revIDEDeployIOSIsValidSDK() function - which I can;t find
 either.
  Any tips with regard to how to debug IDE errors - given the debugger
 seems
  to get a bit flaky when debugging the IDE - checkpoints are not
 recognised?
 
  On 19 June 2015 at 23:41, Dave Kilroy d...@applicationinsight.com
  javascript:; wrote:
 
   Sorry I must have given you bad advice - I just installed Xcode 6.3.1
 and
   it
   didn't work with LC 8 dp1 or dp2 - maybe when LC 8 came out in early
  April
   I
   was using Xcode 6.3.0 - I was also probably running an earlier version
 of
   iOS...
  
   I think unless we can recreate the same conditions in our development
 AND
   test machines to those we had in early April that we are stuffed until
  they
   bring out dp3
  
  
  
   -
   The difference between genius and stupidity is; genius has its
 limits.
  -
   Albert Einstein
   --
   View this message in context:
  
 
 http://runtime-revolution.278305.n4.nabble.com/Do-new-Livecode-8-widgets-work-on-mobile-tp4693205p4693217.html
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Re: Drag and dropping images from a browesr

2015-06-20 Thread Richard Gaskin

David Bovill wrote:


When I drag and drop an image onto LiveCode from Firefox I get the
following data in the dropdata [files]

䕒佖〷〰⼀ U䠖汥敶楴慣丠略ⱥ湵捩摯ᥥ ഀ'ࠀ




No idea what that is :)


Which engine version are you using, and which OS version?

This is a bug I had thought was fixed, and indeed one of my handlers 
that depends on this seems to work in recent versions.


However, I just noticed the bug report for it remains Confirmed but 
not Fixed, so perhaps it still affects some systems:

http://quality.runrev.com/show_bug.cgi?id=14834

Feel free to add notes there to help the team pin this down.

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Drag and dropping images from a browesr

2015-06-20 Thread David Bovill
When I drag and drop an image onto LiveCode from Firefox I get the
following data in the dropdata [files]

䕒佖〷〰⼀ U䠖汥敶楴慣丠略ⱥ湵捩摯ᥥ ഀ'ࠀ


No idea what that is :)

Nothing usefull is returned in the other data fields: styles, rtf, unicode,
text

In Google Chrome the only data I get is for dropdata [image] and looks
something like:

ˇÿˇ‡JFIFˇ˛GFile source:
http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Falafel_balls.jpgˇ‚@ICC_PROFILE0ADBEmntrRGB
XYZ œacspAPPLnoneˆ÷”-ADBE
cprt¸2desc0kwtptúbkpt∞rTRCƒgTRC‘bTRC‰rXYZÙgXYZbXYZtextCopyright
1999 Adobe Systems IncorporateddescAdobe RGB (1998)XYZ ÛQÃXYZ
curv3curv3curv3XYZ

Does anyone know what these encoding are - and would it not be useful if
liveCode reported consistent results between browsers?
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Re: POST command and Previous Request Not completed

2015-06-20 Thread Klaus major-k
Bonjour mon ami,

 Am 20.06.2015 um 16:11 schrieb Pierre Sahores s...@sahores-conseil.com:
 
 Guten Tag Freud Klaus,
 
 Does it still occurs if each POST command is followed by a « put it into 
 mylocalVar » :
 
 Post ...
 put it ...
 Post ...
 put it …
 
 etc…

I am checking: if IT = empty then…
Does that count? 8-)

Maybe i am just misunderstand „blocking“ here!?
I thought this would be like firing an ASK or ANSWER dialog, no?

 Tchuss,
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 www.sahores-conseil.com

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Re: POST command and Previous Request Not completed

2015-06-20 Thread J. Landman Gay

On 6/20/2015 10:10 AM, J. Landman Gay wrote:

On June 20, 2015 9:18:59 AM CDT, Klaus major-k kl...@major-k.de
wrote:


Maybe i am just misunderstand „blocking“ here!? I thought this
would be like firing an ASK or ANSWER dialog, no?


It blocks libURL from accepting a new request but returns control to
your script after a brief time. So it isn't like an answer dialog in
that way.

I was going to ask about this myself yesterday. Some of my client's
users get this error frequently and I haven't yet found a good
workaround. I'm using a kludge that resends the request several times
until that error no longer occurs but it doesn't work very well. I'd
love to know how others handle it because it's causing all kinds of
problems in our app.



Oops, sorry, my app is using GET instead of POST. So my answer isn't 
quite right. Listen to Trevor.


But if anyone knows a way to avoid the previous request not completed 
when getting a URL I'd love to know.


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Re: POST command and Previous Request Not completed

2015-06-20 Thread Trevor DeVore
On Saturday, June 20, 2015, Klaus major-k kl...@major-k.de wrote:


 Say we have some POST commands and fire them one after another.

 Now according to the docs, the POST command is blocking, so we should
 NOT see the error dialog Previous Request Not completed“ any time, right?

 But under some (mysterious) circumstances we actually do, what am I
 missing?

 Thanks a lot for any insight!


I think you could run into this problem if you are using send in time. POST
will keep the handler it is in from continuing but another handler could
start executing with a send in time call.

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Displaying a jpg photo larger than my liveCode window ?

2015-06-20 Thread Francis Nugent Dixon
Hi from Beautiful Brittany,

To Mike Bonner and Brahmanathaswami,

Many thanks to you both - two radically different approaches !!

I will try them both and let you know which one I use.

-Francis

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Re: POST command and Previous Request Not completed

2015-06-20 Thread J. Landman Gay
On June 20, 2015 9:18:59 AM CDT, Klaus major-k kl...@major-k.de wrote:

Maybe i am just misunderstand „blocking“ here!?
I thought this would be like firing an ASK or ANSWER dialog, no?

It blocks libURL from accepting a new request but returns control to your 
script after a brief time. So it isn't like an answer dialog in that way.  

I was going to ask about this myself yesterday. Some of my client's users get 
this error frequently and I haven't yet found a good workaround. I'm using a 
kludge that resends the request several times until that error no longer occurs 
but it doesn't work very well. I'd love to know how others handle it because 
it's causing all kinds of problems in our app. 

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Re: POST command and Previous Request Not completed

2015-06-20 Thread Pierre Sahores
Guten Tag Freud Klaus,

Does it still occurs if each POST command is followed by a « put it into 
mylocalVar » :

Post ...
put it ...
Post ...
put it …

etc…

Tchuss,
--
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mobile : 06 03 95 77 70
www.sahores-conseil.com

 Le 20 juin 2015 à 14:35, Klaus major-k kl...@major-k.de a écrit :
 
 Hi friends,
 
 I have a little understanding problem. 8-)
 
 Say we have some POST commands and fire them one after another.
 
 Now according to the docs, the POST command is blocking, so we should 
 NOT see the error dialog Previous Request Not completed“ any time, right?
 
 But under some (mysterious) circumstances we actually do, what am I missing?
 
 Thanks a lot for any insight!
 
 
 Best
 
 Klaus
 --
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 http://www.major-k.de
 kl...@major-k.de
 
 
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Re: Do new Livecode 8 widgets work on mobile?

2015-06-20 Thread Richard Gaskin

Ali Lloyd wrote:


If you do
 put true into gRevDevelopment
in the message box you'll find break points are honoured and you can also
use the contextual menu to find the function you're looking for.


That breakpoints don't affect the IDE by default makes good sense, and 
the gRevDevelopment global is a useful flag for that.


However, as long as the IDE scripts are available without it never made 
sense to make it cumbersome to navigate those handlers by disabling the 
Go To Definition item in the context menu.


Thankfully that was fixed, and I can confirm that as of 6.7.6/7.0.6 we 
no longer need to set gRevDevelopment just to use the Go To Definition 
item:


http://quality.runrev.com/show_bug.cgi?id=10722

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Re: POST command and Previous Request Not completed

2015-06-20 Thread Richard Gaskin

Trevor DeVore wrote:

 On Saturday, June 20, 2015, Klaus major-k klaus at major-k.de wrote:

 Say we have some POST commands and fire them one after another.

 Now according to the docs, the POST command is blocking, so we should
 NOT see the error dialog Previous Request Not completed“ any time,
 right?

 But under some (mysterious) circumstances we actually do, what am I
 missing?

 I think you could run into this problem if you are using send in
 time. POST will keep the handler it is in from continuing but another
 handler could start executing with a send in time call.

I wish it were so easy.

I have a button which toggles between opening a record for editing and 
saving a record.  When opening for editing it uses GET, and for saving 
it uses POST.


When I click the button quickly in success while it's in Save mode, it 
initiates the post but then queues the GET too close behind, perhaps 
even before POST is done, and then libURL goes into an odd state 
complaining about certs it otherwise has no problem with.


I'll see if I can get some time to assemble a simple demo stack and 
submit a bug report, but in short I believe Klaus is onto something, 
that POST is only blocking in some very specific ways that are difficult 
to identify and anticipate.


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Re: POST command and Previous Request Not completed

2015-06-20 Thread Mike Bonner
I have a couple curiosity questions re: post.  The dictionary (7.0.5) has
the following Note: The Android and iOS engines do not support 'libUrl' but
allow you to use post in the background. [...]

Does anyone have an example of using post in the background on mobile?  Is
there a callback message involved?

I was also wondering if there is a way to use the load command to post..
And if so, would this allow multiple quick post requests, with callback to
be done?

On Sat, Jun 20, 2015 at 12:45 PM, J. Landman Gay jac...@hyperactivesw.com
wrote:

 On 6/20/2015 1:06 PM, Richard Gaskin wrote:

 I believe Klaus is onto something, that POST is only blocking in some
 very specific ways that are difficult to identify and anticipate.


 There's someone on the forums with the same POST issue. They're trying to
 POST every few seconds and they're getting this error. Their work may
 provide a good example stack.

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Re: local variable being reset from outside of script

2015-06-20 Thread Dr. Hawkins
On Fri, Jun 19, 2015 at 4:07 PM, Mark Wieder mwie...@ahsoftware.net wrote:

 Could also be launching a palette stack from a behavior object.
 It's possible that on return it launches a new behavior instance.
 Dunno. It's a bug if so.


I seem to have found it--it's one of the same-old IDE bugs that has been
wasting our time for years.

The single-stepper simply didn't bother to follow code into the closeField
handler in the same script.

In that handler, i checked for textChanged as item 2 of line -2 of the
execution contexts.  It should now be line 1 of the execution contexts.

 you're pretty^H^H^HVERY good at  producing the unexpected.


That's been true as long as I've been coding :(

[My father claims that machines are out to get me.  Now, if *I* thought
that, I would be paranoid.  I do have to grant, however, that all of the
evidence seems to be on his side . . ..  {p.s.  Anyone know where to buy
the pin that connects the primary and secondary plates on a 1972 Cadillac
quadrate carburetor? } ]





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Re: POST command and Previous Request Not completed

2015-06-20 Thread J. Landman Gay

On 6/20/2015 1:06 PM, Richard Gaskin wrote:

I believe Klaus is onto something, that POST is only blocking in some
very specific ways that are difficult to identify and anticipate.


There's someone on the forums with the same POST issue. They're trying 
to POST every few seconds and they're getting this error. Their work may 
provide a good example stack.


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Re: local variable being reset from outside of script

2015-06-20 Thread J. Landman Gay

On 6/20/2015 1:42 PM, J. Landman Gay wrote:

On 6/20/2015 1:00 PM, Dr. Hawkins wrote:

The single-stepper simply didn't bother to follow code into the
closeField
handler in the same script.


A closefield handler won't be called while stepping through a different
handler, it's an independent message (unless your handler specifically
calls closefield itself.) You need to set a breakpoint within the
closefield handler. All LC event messages work that way.



I misphrased that. I meant that you can't step into an independent event 
message handler while tracing a different one. The closefield will be 
sent of course; it just isn't related to the handler you're currently 
tracing.


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Re: local variable being reset from outside of script

2015-06-20 Thread J. Landman Gay

On 6/20/2015 1:00 PM, Dr. Hawkins wrote:

The single-stepper simply didn't bother to follow code into the closeField
handler in the same script.


A closefield handler won't be called while stepping through a different 
handler, it's an independent message (unless your handler specifically 
calls closefield itself.) You need to set a breakpoint within the 
closefield handler. All LC event messages work that way.


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iOS not liking specialFolderPath(Preferences)

2015-06-20 Thread Dr. Hawkins
In the code sequence (in preOpenStack)


   *answer* ck 28

   *answer*  specialFolderPath(Preferences)



errorDialog produces

 Execution error 21,39,1

241, 39, 1 preOpenStack

353,0,0  stack /var/moble/Containers/Bundle/Spplication/hex
codeVampHeart.app/VampHeart



This is on an actual 6+; the simulator just crashes hard.

Error 21 seems to be

21 answer: error in response expression


While 241 is

241 Handler: error in statement


Neither of which seem to make any sense when asking for the preferences
folder.

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RE: iOS not liking specialFolderPath(Preferences)

2015-06-20 Thread John Dixon
When an application is installed on a phone (or in the simulator) a number of 
initial folders are
created for use by the application. You can locate the paths to these folders 
using the
specialFolderPath() function with the following selectors:

• home – the (unique) folder containing the application bundle and its 
associated data and
folders

• documents – the folder in which the application should store any document 
data (this folder
is backed up by iTunes on sync)

• cache – the folder in which the application should store any transient data 
that needs to be
preserved between launches (this folder is not backed up by iTunes on sync)

• library – the folder in which the application can store data of various 
types. In particular,
data private to the application should be stored in a folder named with the 
app's bundle
identifier inside library. (this folder is backed up by iTunes on sync).

• temporary – the folder in which the application should store any temporary 
data that is not
needed between launches (this folder is not backed up by iTunes on sync)

• engine – the folder containing the built standalone engine (i.e. the bundle). 
This is useful for
constructing paths to resources that have been copied into the bundle at build 
time.
In general you should only create files within the documents, cache, and 
temporary folders. Indeed,
be careful not to change or add any files within the application bundle. The 
application bundle is
digitally signed when it is built, and any changes to it after this point will 
invalidate the signature
and prevent it from launching.


 Date: Sat, 20 Jun 2015 18:59:41 -0700
 Subject: iOS not liking specialFolderPath(Preferences)
 From: doch...@gmail.com
 To: use-livecode@lists.runrev.com
 
 In the code sequence (in preOpenStack)
 
 
*answer* ck 28
 
*answer*  specialFolderPath(Preferences)
 
 
 
 errorDialog produces
 
  Execution error 21,39,1
 
 241, 39, 1 preOpenStack
 
 353,0,0  stack /var/moble/Containers/Bundle/Spplication/hex
 codeVampHeart.app/VampHeart
 
 
 
 This is on an actual 6+; the simulator just crashes hard.
 
 Error 21 seems to be
 
 21 answer: error in response expression
 
 
 While 241 is
 
 241 Handler: error in statement
 
 
 Neither of which seem to make any sense when asking for the preferences
 folder.
 
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advertising on mobile

2015-06-20 Thread Dr. Hawkins
Is anyone here doing an advertising-based mobile app with the livened
partner?

Does it work?

Are there other/better options/


-- 
Dr. Richard E. Hawkins, Esq.
(702) 508-8462
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