Re: Player Object in HTML 5?

[[-hh]]

Hi Simon,

$1999 is compared to that what I paid at about the factor 3.5 ---
may be there was some confusion of speed and pricing when looking back.

Hermann

Dont look back (by D. Pennebaker, vote ninth best documentary film of all time)
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Re: Player Object in HTML 5?

[Simon]

Richard Gaskin wrote
> Where can one find the pricing of the HTML5 deployment entitlement?

I found it in my account under my subscriptions "Add HTML 5 Deployment"
$1999.00 a year.

Simon



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Re: Strange bevavious

[[-hh]]

@Jacques
Thanks for the hint. Never had looked into that preferences tab.
Tried at once and restarted. Was worth a try but had no effect.

But I saw there, that LC tries to accesss my calendar (of course I disabled 
that) ...
I also rebuilt permissions and cleared the dyldd's shared cache.
No effect. Also the calendar access trials (by tccd) are still there.

Meanwhile I presume it is from Apple's new SIP that doesn't like LC.
Nobody knows what Apple is exactly doing. I don't trust them any more.

I now think about switching to Linux as my primary OS.

@Ton
One possible workaround is to do a mailcheck during LC's open/save-dialogs. 
Never checked my mail so often :-)
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Re: Replace Quotes with Escaped Quotes in String

[Peter TB Brett]

On 2015-12-19 21:09, Brahmanathaswami wrote:

for closure on this

This works;

if tVisitorsInfo is empty then exit to top
put getAddresses() into tAddresses
put tVisitorsInfo into tBody
replace quote with backslash & quote in tContainer
put ("echo " &  quote & tBody & quote & " | ") into tCmd
put format ("mail -s \"Visitor Care Notice\" -r
\"no-re...@hindu.org\" " & tAddresses) after tCmd
get shell(tCmd)



As I explained in a previous e-mail, please don't do this.

It allows anyone who can affect the contents of tVisitorsInfo to execute 
arbitrary code on your server.


It's much safer to put the body in single quotes to protect from shell 
expansion.  Or put the body into a temporary file and pass it to "mail" 
using the "<" shell operator.  Or use "open process" for "mail" and 
write the body content to the process's standard input.  Or, well, 
pretty much anything else.


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Re: Strange bevavious

[tkuyp...@telenet.be]

Same (very annoying) problem :-(

Well, my system doesn’t crash, but it still takes anywhere from 50 to 130 
seconds for the system to unfreeze…


Met vriendelijke groeten,
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> On 19 dec. 2015, at 21:49, J. Landman Gay  wrote:
> 
> It looks like a Gatekeeper problem. What happens if you "Allow apps 
> downloaded from Anywhere"?
> 
> On 12/19/2015 12:51 PM, [-hh] wrote:
>> Hi all,
>> 
>> the sleeping-disk effect is true here, I can win 1-2 seconds of 3-5 seconds 
>> at start of dialog. But this is with ALL apps, not only LC. And it is for 
>> the first part of the dialog only, before creating the list.
>> 
>> The following is logged from the second part of an "open-stack"-dialog, 
>> after selecting a stack filename.
>> 
>> MacOS 10.11.2
>> 
>> LC 8.0.0-dp11
>> [Begin of selecting a file in dialog's list, Apple's wheel of death starts]
>> 19/12/15 18:56:22,977 LiveCode-Indy[993]: 
>> GetDYLDEntryPointWithImage(/System/Library/PrivateFrameworks/CacheDelete.framework/CacheDelete,CacheDeleteCopyPurgeableSpaceWithInfo)
>>  failed.
>> 19/12/15 18:57:13,613 tccd[400]: Unable to verify code signing identity of 
>> com.runrev.livecode:  code failed to satisfy specified code requirement(s)
>> [End of dialog]
>> 
>> LC 7.1.1
>> [Begin of selecting a file in dialog's list, Apple's wheel of death starts]
>> 19/12/15 18:43:06,644 LiveCode-Community[975]: 
>> GetDYLDEntryPointWithImage(/System/Library/PrivateFrameworks/CacheDelete.framework/CacheDelete,CacheDeleteCopyPurgeableSpaceWithInfo)
>>  failed.
>> 119/12/15 18:43:36,868 tccd[400]: Unable to verify code signing identity of 
>> com.runrev.livecode:  code failed to satisfy specified code requirement(s)
>> [End of dialog]
>> 
>> LC 6.7.8
>> [Begin of selecting a file in dialog's list, Apple's wheel of death starts]
>> 19/12/15 19:40:49,669 LiveCode-Community[1059]: 
>> GetDYLDEntryPointWithImage(/System/Library/PrivateFrameworks/CacheDelete.framework/CacheDelete,CacheDeleteCopyPurgeableSpaceWithInfo)
>>  failed.
>> 19/12/15 19:41:14,513 tccd[400]: Unable to verify code signing identity of 
>> com.runrev.livecode:  code failed to satisfy specified code requirement(s)
>> 19/12/15 19:41:14,518 tccd[400]: SecTaskLoadEntitlements failed error=22
>> [End of dialog]
>> 
>> What to do? I have no disk problems, no, never noticed one. And this problem 
>> is with *every first* open/save-dialog of any LC version I use (6.7.8 is a 
>> bit faster than 7.1.1 and 8.0).
>> 
>> (Added to bug report #16612.)
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Re: Strange bevavious

[J. Landman Gay]

It looks like a Gatekeeper problem. What happens if you "Allow apps 
downloaded from Anywhere"?


On 12/19/2015 12:51 PM, [-hh] wrote:

Hi all,

the sleeping-disk effect is true here, I can win 1-2 seconds of 3-5 seconds at 
start of dialog. But this is with ALL apps, not only LC. And it is for the 
first part of the dialog only, before creating the list.

The following is logged from the second part of an "open-stack"-dialog, after 
selecting a stack filename.

MacOS 10.11.2

LC 8.0.0-dp11
[Begin of selecting a file in dialog's list, Apple's wheel of death starts]
19/12/15 18:56:22,977 LiveCode-Indy[993]: 
GetDYLDEntryPointWithImage(/System/Library/PrivateFrameworks/CacheDelete.framework/CacheDelete,CacheDeleteCopyPurgeableSpaceWithInfo)
 failed.
19/12/15 18:57:13,613 tccd[400]: Unable to verify code signing identity of 
com.runrev.livecode:  code failed to satisfy specified code requirement(s)
[End of dialog]

LC 7.1.1
[Begin of selecting a file in dialog's list, Apple's wheel of death starts]
19/12/15 18:43:06,644 LiveCode-Community[975]: 
GetDYLDEntryPointWithImage(/System/Library/PrivateFrameworks/CacheDelete.framework/CacheDelete,CacheDeleteCopyPurgeableSpaceWithInfo)
 failed.
119/12/15 18:43:36,868 tccd[400]: Unable to verify code signing identity of 
com.runrev.livecode:  code failed to satisfy specified code requirement(s)
[End of dialog]

LC 6.7.8
[Begin of selecting a file in dialog's list, Apple's wheel of death starts]
19/12/15 19:40:49,669 LiveCode-Community[1059]: 
GetDYLDEntryPointWithImage(/System/Library/PrivateFrameworks/CacheDelete.framework/CacheDelete,CacheDeleteCopyPurgeableSpaceWithInfo)
 failed.
19/12/15 19:41:14,513 tccd[400]: Unable to verify code signing identity of 
com.runrev.livecode:  code failed to satisfy specified code requirement(s)
19/12/15 19:41:14,518 tccd[400]: SecTaskLoadEntitlements failed error=22
[End of dialog]

What to do? I have no disk problems, no, never noticed one. And this problem is 
with *every first* open/save-dialog of any LC version I use (6.7.8 is a bit 
faster than 7.1.1 and 8.0).

(Added to bug report #16612.)
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Re: Player Object in HTML 5?

[Richard Gaskin]

Monte Goulding wrote:
> Did you expect to be able to deploy commercial HTML5 apps with
> community?

It's a minor point but perhaps worth offering a reminder that the 
distinction isn't about commercial, but about *proprietary*.


The GPL doesn't in any way restrict commercial activities with software. 
Its requirements focus on sharing source code.


For those who derive revenue solely from per-user licenses this 
distinction may not be all that important, since of course if the source 
is freely available everyone is one Standalone Builder moment away from 
having the finished app.


But over the last decade many business models have evolved with revenue 
streams beyond per-use licenses for software.  SaaS, PaaS, and other 
service-oriented models are increasingly popular, and indeed many of the 
tech industry's hottest startups are based around open source technology.


It's been estimated that as much as 90% of software is written "for use 
rather than for sale", and for those projects sharing the source means 
additional features, maintenance, and support from the community at no 
cost to the originator, so the software grows to accommodate an 
ever-large variety of use cases for a win-win for all.


Even though my proprietary LC licenses are prepaid many years in 
advance, right now the majority of projects I'm working on are for 
in-house workgroup support tools where the GPL-governed version would 
work equally well.   In fact, once they get mature enough portions of 
those projects may be released under GPL for the reasons I've noted 
above, to get more eyeballs on the code and new enhancements beyond my 
own limited current needs.


That said, even when using open source software I often contribute back 
to the core team.  It's in the interest of my business, my clients' 
businesses, and our end-users to make sure the stewards of the 
technologies we rely on are well taken care of.


I contribute to the Ubuntu project and others, and maintain an 
individual membership with the Linux Foundation for these reasons.  I 
have no obligation to do so, but there's nothing altruistic in my 
support, rather it's purely selfish: I recognize that the value I derive 
from these projects is more than strong enough to warrant supporting 
them to make sure they keep doing the great work they've been doing.


By the same token, in addition to my prepaid LC licenses for the 
proprietary edition I also devote time contributing to the project in 
support of the GPL-governed Community Edition.


Whether through cash, code, or evangelism, all useful open source 
projects can benefit from community contributions.


But none of that is an obligation, nor inhibits even substantial 
commercial activity, provide I adhere to the terms of the license I'm 
using: deploying proprietary apps only with a proprietary-licensed 
edition, and sharing code when made with the sharing-focused 
GPL-governed edition.


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Re: Replace Quotes with Escaped Quotes in String

[Brahmanathaswami]

for closure on this

This works;

if tVisitorsInfo is empty then exit to top
put getAddresses() into tAddresses
put tVisitorsInfo into tBody
replace quote with backslash & quote in tContainer
put ("echo " &  quote & tBody & quote & " | ") into tCmd
put format ("mail -s \"Visitor Care Notice\" -r 
\"no-re...@hindu.org\" " & tAddresses) after tCmd

get shell(tCmd)

BR



Peter TB Brett wrote:


replace quote with backslash & quote in tContainer 


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Re: Player Object in HTML 5?

[Richard Gaskin]

Simon wrote:

> Peter TB Brett wrote
>> Yes, you can already deploy a commercial HTML5 standalone from Indy
>> or Business edition, if you have the HTML5 deployment entitlement
>> added on to your license.
>
> Ahhh shoot!
> How did I miss that?  $2K a year.
> While I'm not very bothered by HTML5 and LiveCode Indy/Business as I
> can use the Community version, I am surprised that I hadn't seen that
> it was coming out as an add-on.

The word "HTML" yields 0 hits on the Pricing page:


Where can one find the pricing of the HTML5 deployment entitlement?

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Re: Take a look back through 2015

[Mark Wieder]

On 12/19/2015 11:12 AM, Richard Gaskin wrote:


What opportunities do you see for streamlining file I/O?


Looking at the file access benchmarks, there's a significant difference 
between LC6.7.8 and LC7/8.


Test_FileBinRead: 1,14,14
Test_FileBinWrite: 2,80,78
Test_FileTextRead: 1,156,77
Test_FileTextWrite: 2,96,94

I haven't looked at that section of the engine code recently, and I've 
got my own problems trying to build from source anymore, but it seems 
obvious that some optimization need to be applied to the routines. I 
have no doubt that the almost-two-orders-of-magnitude difference is due 
to unicode translation.


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Re: Take a look back through 2015

[Richard Gaskin]

Mark Wieder wrote:
> I'm dismayed that more attention hasn't yet been paid to improving
> the file operations, but the speed of string operations has benefited
> greatly from recent optimization.

I've only recently cracked my copy of "Linux System Programming" so my 
ignorance has yet to be abated; in my brief review of strace output from 
file operations nothing stands out to me as an obvious bottleneck.


What opportunities do you see for streamlining file I/O?

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Re: Take a look back through 2015

[Richard Gaskin]

Mark Wieder wrote:

> On 12/18/2015 03:03 PM, Richard Gaskin wrote:
>> Mark Wieder wrote:
>>  > Yeah, that's an impressive list.
>>  >
>>  > But "3.5x Faster" than what?
>>  > It's like those ads that feature "20% less fat"
>>  >
>>  > Nice to see that kilted Kevin has a glass of scotch close at hand
>>
>> I dunno, the performance boost seems reasonably well reflected in my
>> most recent benchmarks:
>> 
>>
>
> No question about that. Just amused by the wording.

Yes, their promo copy is habitually a bit heavy-handed.

They'd do well to tone it down a bit, err on the side of underselling. 
Let the excellence of the product speak for itself.


A gene pools go, people who find programming enjoyable tend to represent 
the higher side of the IQ bell curve.  Like any street-wise salesman 
will tell you, the smarter the target the softer the sell.


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Re: Strange bevavious

[[-hh]]

Hi all,

the sleeping-disk effect is true here, I can win 1-2 seconds of 3-5 seconds at 
start of dialog. But this is with ALL apps, not only LC. And it is for the 
first part of the dialog only, before creating the list.

The following is logged from the second part of an "open-stack"-dialog, after 
selecting a stack filename.

MacOS 10.11.2

LC 8.0.0-dp11
[Begin of selecting a file in dialog's list, Apple's wheel of death starts]
19/12/15 18:56:22,977 LiveCode-Indy[993]: 
GetDYLDEntryPointWithImage(/System/Library/PrivateFrameworks/CacheDelete.framework/CacheDelete,CacheDeleteCopyPurgeableSpaceWithInfo)
 failed.
19/12/15 18:57:13,613 tccd[400]: Unable to verify code signing identity of 
com.runrev.livecode:  code failed to satisfy specified code requirement(s)
[End of dialog]

LC 7.1.1
[Begin of selecting a file in dialog's list, Apple's wheel of death starts]
19/12/15 18:43:06,644 LiveCode-Community[975]: 
GetDYLDEntryPointWithImage(/System/Library/PrivateFrameworks/CacheDelete.framework/CacheDelete,CacheDeleteCopyPurgeableSpaceWithInfo)
 failed.
119/12/15 18:43:36,868 tccd[400]: Unable to verify code signing identity of 
com.runrev.livecode:  code failed to satisfy specified code requirement(s)
[End of dialog]

LC 6.7.8
[Begin of selecting a file in dialog's list, Apple's wheel of death starts]
19/12/15 19:40:49,669 LiveCode-Community[1059]: 
GetDYLDEntryPointWithImage(/System/Library/PrivateFrameworks/CacheDelete.framework/CacheDelete,CacheDeleteCopyPurgeableSpaceWithInfo)
 failed.
19/12/15 19:41:14,513 tccd[400]: Unable to verify code signing identity of 
com.runrev.livecode:  code failed to satisfy specified code requirement(s)
19/12/15 19:41:14,518 tccd[400]: SecTaskLoadEntitlements failed error=22
[End of dialog]

What to do? I have no disk problems, no, never noticed one. And this problem is 
with *every first* open/save-dialog of any LC version I use (6.7.8 is a bit 
faster than 7.1.1 and 8.0).

(Added to bug report #16612.)
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Re: Strange bevavious

[Earthednet-wp]

Whenever I get inexplicably odd behavior, I run Disc Warrior on my system 
drive. Strange things can be induced by disc errors, which seem to constantly 
creep into my computer.
Bill

William Prothero
http://es.earthednet.org

> On Dec 19, 2015, at 8:27 AM, "tkuyp...@telenet.be"  
> wrote:
> 
> Thans Thierry, posted my issue in BugZilla, but it looks like I have to live 
> with it for a while I guess...
> 
> Met vriendelijke groeten,
> Warm Regards,
> 
> 
> 
> Ton Kuypers
> +32 (0) 477 739 530
> 
> Steenweg op Leopoldsburg 100 • B-2490 • Balen • Belgium
> www.publishingtools4u.com 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
>> On 19 dec. 2015, at 16:42, Thierry Douez > > wrote:
>> 
>> 2015-12-19 16:04 GMT+01:00 tkuyp...@telenet.be  
>> mailto:tkuyp...@telenet.be>>:
>>> Not sure where to post this, but I’ve been experiencing a very strange 
>>> issue with LC 7 and after some testing with LC8, it seems to have gotten 
>>> even worse…
>>> 
>>> It only happens in the IDE on my Mac, not in standalones.
>>> It happens in 10.11.2, but it was there in the previous versions as well, 
>>> can’t remember when it started.
>>> 
>>> The issue is that when I use the Open menu to manually open a stack, it 
>>> takes almost a minute before the open dialog shows.
>>> Also when I use the Open, the Answer or the Ask command it takes between 50 
>>> and 70 seconds to show the dialog.
>>> But only the first time after I restart LiveCode, every next time I try to 
>>> do this, it works as normal.
>>> And it is not LiveCode that is non-responsive, the whole system hangs, 
>>> that’s why i can tell how long it taken, because even the clock in my 
>>> menubar is frozen…
>>> 
>>> During some tests with LC8, it takes anywhere from 2 to 2:30 minutes, so it 
>>> is getting worse.
>>> 
>>> I already removes everything from LiveCode, but no difference.
>>> 
>>> Anybody a suggestion maybe?
>> 
>> Hi Ton,
>> 
>> 
>> http://forums.livecode.com/viewtopic.php?f=104&t=24971 
>> 
>> 
>> and
>> 
>> Might be good if you put some words here:
>> 
>> http://quality.livecode.com/show_bug.cgi?id=16612
>> 
>> 
>> Kind regards,
>> 
>> Thierry
>> 
>> 
>> 
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Re: Strange bevavious

[tkuyp...@telenet.be]

Thans Thierry, posted my issue in BugZilla, but it looks like I have to live 
with it for a while I guess...

Met vriendelijke groeten,
Warm Regards,



Ton Kuypers
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> On 19 dec. 2015, at 16:42, Thierry Douez  > wrote:
> 
> 2015-12-19 16:04 GMT+01:00 tkuyp...@telenet.be  
> mailto:tkuyp...@telenet.be>>:
>> Not sure where to post this, but I’ve been experiencing a very strange issue 
>> with LC 7 and after some testing with LC8, it seems to have gotten even 
>> worse…
>> 
>> It only happens in the IDE on my Mac, not in standalones.
>> It happens in 10.11.2, but it was there in the previous versions as well, 
>> can’t remember when it started.
>> 
>> The issue is that when I use the Open menu to manually open a stack, it 
>> takes almost a minute before the open dialog shows.
>> Also when I use the Open, the Answer or the Ask command it takes between 50 
>> and 70 seconds to show the dialog.
>> But only the first time after I restart LiveCode, every next time I try to 
>> do this, it works as normal.
>> And it is not LiveCode that is non-responsive, the whole system hangs, 
>> that’s why i can tell how long it taken, because even the clock in my 
>> menubar is frozen…
>> 
>> During some tests with LC8, it takes anywhere from 2 to 2:30 minutes, so it 
>> is getting worse.
>> 
>> I already removes everything from LiveCode, but no difference.
>> 
>> Anybody a suggestion maybe?
> 
> Hi Ton,
> 
> 
> http://forums.livecode.com/viewtopic.php?f=104&t=24971 
> 
> 
> and
> 
> Might be good if you put some words here:
> 
> http://quality.livecode.com/show_bug.cgi?id=16612
> 
> 
> Kind regards,
> 
> Thierry
> 
> 
> 
> Thierry Douez - http://sunny-tdz.com
> sunnYrex - sunnYtext2speech - sunnYperl - sunnYmidi - sunnYmage
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Re: Strange bevavious

[Mike Bonner]

It was worth a shot.

On Sat, Dec 19, 2015 at 8:56 AM, tkuyp...@telenet.be 
wrote:

> Hi Mike,
>
> No external drives attached… Wish it was that simple ;-)
>
>
> Met vriendelijke groeten,
> Warm Regards,
>
>
>
> Ton Kuypers
> +32 (0) 477 739 530
>
> Steenweg op Leopoldsburg 100 • B-2490 • Balen • Belgium
> www.publishingtools4u.com
>
>
>
>
>
> > On 19 dec. 2015, at 16:49, Mike Bonner  wrote:
> >
> > I'm not sure it applies to answer and ask, but I've had issues with
> opening
> > stacks using the open menu item in the past.  Then I unplugged my usb
> drive
> > that is often in power save mode, so that it doesn't have to spin up
> before
> > being able to respond and the trouble went away.  Do you have an external
> > usb drive?  (Ihave a 3.5" and a 2.5.  The 3.5 in its dock is much more of
> > an issue than the 2.5.  Inertia matters I guess.)
> >
> > On Sat, Dec 19, 2015 at 8:42 AM, Thierry Douez 
> wrote:
> >
> >> 2015-12-19 16:04 GMT+01:00 tkuyp...@telenet.be :
> >>> Not sure where to post this, but I’ve been experiencing a very strange
> >> issue with LC 7 and after some testing with LC8, it seems to have gotten
> >> even worse…
> >>>
> >>> It only happens in the IDE on my Mac, not in standalones.
> >>> It happens in 10.11.2, but it was there in the previous versions as
> >> well, can’t remember when it started.
> >>>
> >>> The issue is that when I use the Open menu to manually open a stack, it
> >> takes almost a minute before the open dialog shows.
> >>> Also when I use the Open, the Answer or the Ask command it takes
> between
> >> 50 and 70 seconds to show the dialog.
> >>> But only the first time after I restart LiveCode, every next time I try
> >> to do this, it works as normal.
> >>> And it is not LiveCode that is non-responsive, the whole system hangs,
> >> that’s why i can tell how long it taken, because even the clock in my
> >> menubar is frozen…
> >>>
> >>> During some tests with LC8, it takes anywhere from 2 to 2:30 minutes,
> so
> >> it is getting worse.
> >>>
> >>> I already removes everything from LiveCode, but no difference.
> >>>
> >>> Anybody a suggestion maybe?
> >>
> >> Hi Ton,
> >>
> >>
> >> http://forums.livecode.com/viewtopic.php?f=104&t=24971
> >>
> >> and
> >>
> >> Might be good if you put some words here:
> >>
> >> http://quality.livecode.com/show_bug.cgi?id=16612
> >>
> >>
> >> Kind regards,
> >>
> >> Thierry
> >>
> >>
> >> 
> >> Thierry Douez - http://sunny-tdz.com
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Re: Strange bevavious

[tkuyp...@telenet.be]

Hi Mike,

No external drives attached… Wish it was that simple ;-)


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> On 19 dec. 2015, at 16:49, Mike Bonner  wrote:
> 
> I'm not sure it applies to answer and ask, but I've had issues with opening
> stacks using the open menu item in the past.  Then I unplugged my usb drive
> that is often in power save mode, so that it doesn't have to spin up before
> being able to respond and the trouble went away.  Do you have an external
> usb drive?  (Ihave a 3.5" and a 2.5.  The 3.5 in its dock is much more of
> an issue than the 2.5.  Inertia matters I guess.)
> 
> On Sat, Dec 19, 2015 at 8:42 AM, Thierry Douez  wrote:
> 
>> 2015-12-19 16:04 GMT+01:00 tkuyp...@telenet.be :
>>> Not sure where to post this, but I’ve been experiencing a very strange
>> issue with LC 7 and after some testing with LC8, it seems to have gotten
>> even worse…
>>> 
>>> It only happens in the IDE on my Mac, not in standalones.
>>> It happens in 10.11.2, but it was there in the previous versions as
>> well, can’t remember when it started.
>>> 
>>> The issue is that when I use the Open menu to manually open a stack, it
>> takes almost a minute before the open dialog shows.
>>> Also when I use the Open, the Answer or the Ask command it takes between
>> 50 and 70 seconds to show the dialog.
>>> But only the first time after I restart LiveCode, every next time I try
>> to do this, it works as normal.
>>> And it is not LiveCode that is non-responsive, the whole system hangs,
>> that’s why i can tell how long it taken, because even the clock in my
>> menubar is frozen…
>>> 
>>> During some tests with LC8, it takes anywhere from 2 to 2:30 minutes, so
>> it is getting worse.
>>> 
>>> I already removes everything from LiveCode, but no difference.
>>> 
>>> Anybody a suggestion maybe?
>> 
>> Hi Ton,
>> 
>> 
>> http://forums.livecode.com/viewtopic.php?f=104&t=24971
>> 
>> and
>> 
>> Might be good if you put some words here:
>> 
>> http://quality.livecode.com/show_bug.cgi?id=16612
>> 
>> 
>> Kind regards,
>> 
>> Thierry
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Thierry Douez - http://sunny-tdz.com
>> sunnYrex - sunnYtext2speech - sunnYperl - sunnYmidi - sunnYmage
>> 
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Re: Strange bevavious

[Mike Bonner]

I'm not sure it applies to answer and ask, but I've had issues with opening
stacks using the open menu item in the past.  Then I unplugged my usb drive
that is often in power save mode, so that it doesn't have to spin up before
being able to respond and the trouble went away.  Do you have an external
usb drive?  (Ihave a 3.5" and a 2.5.  The 3.5 in its dock is much more of
an issue than the 2.5.  Inertia matters I guess.)

On Sat, Dec 19, 2015 at 8:42 AM, Thierry Douez  wrote:

> 2015-12-19 16:04 GMT+01:00 tkuyp...@telenet.be :
> > Not sure where to post this, but I’ve been experiencing a very strange
> issue with LC 7 and after some testing with LC8, it seems to have gotten
> even worse…
> >
> > It only happens in the IDE on my Mac, not in standalones.
> > It happens in 10.11.2, but it was there in the previous versions as
> well, can’t remember when it started.
> >
> > The issue is that when I use the Open menu to manually open a stack, it
> takes almost a minute before the open dialog shows.
> > Also when I use the Open, the Answer or the Ask command it takes between
> 50 and 70 seconds to show the dialog.
> > But only the first time after I restart LiveCode, every next time I try
> to do this, it works as normal.
> > And it is not LiveCode that is non-responsive, the whole system hangs,
> that’s why i can tell how long it taken, because even the clock in my
> menubar is frozen…
> >
> > During some tests with LC8, it takes anywhere from 2 to 2:30 minutes, so
> it is getting worse.
> >
> > I already removes everything from LiveCode, but no difference.
> >
> > Anybody a suggestion maybe?
>
> Hi Ton,
>
>
> http://forums.livecode.com/viewtopic.php?f=104&t=24971
>
> and
>
> Might be good if you put some words here:
>
> http://quality.livecode.com/show_bug.cgi?id=16612
>
>
> Kind regards,
>
> Thierry
>
>
> 
> Thierry Douez - http://sunny-tdz.com
> sunnYrex - sunnYtext2speech - sunnYperl - sunnYmidi - sunnYmage
>
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Re: Strange bevavious

[Thierry Douez]

2015-12-19 16:04 GMT+01:00 tkuyp...@telenet.be :
> Not sure where to post this, but I’ve been experiencing a very strange issue 
> with LC 7 and after some testing with LC8, it seems to have gotten even worse…
>
> It only happens in the IDE on my Mac, not in standalones.
> It happens in 10.11.2, but it was there in the previous versions as well, 
> can’t remember when it started.
>
> The issue is that when I use the Open menu to manually open a stack, it takes 
> almost a minute before the open dialog shows.
> Also when I use the Open, the Answer or the Ask command it takes between 50 
> and 70 seconds to show the dialog.
> But only the first time after I restart LiveCode, every next time I try to do 
> this, it works as normal.
> And it is not LiveCode that is non-responsive, the whole system hangs, that’s 
> why i can tell how long it taken, because even the clock in my menubar is 
> frozen…
>
> During some tests with LC8, it takes anywhere from 2 to 2:30 minutes, so it 
> is getting worse.
>
> I already removes everything from LiveCode, but no difference.
>
> Anybody a suggestion maybe?

Hi Ton,


http://forums.livecode.com/viewtopic.php?f=104&t=24971

and

Might be good if you put some words here:

http://quality.livecode.com/show_bug.cgi?id=16612


Kind regards,

Thierry



Thierry Douez - http://sunny-tdz.com
sunnYrex - sunnYtext2speech - sunnYperl - sunnYmidi - sunnYmage

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Strange bevavious

[tkuyp...@telenet.be]

Not sure where to post this, but I’ve been experiencing a very strange issue 
with LC 7 and after some testing with LC8, it seems to have gotten even worse…

It only happens in the IDE on my Mac, not in standalones.
It happens in 10.11.2, but it was there in the previous versions as well, can’t 
remember when it started.

The issue is that when I use the Open menu to manually open a stack, it takes 
almost a minute before the open dialog shows.
Also when I use the Open, the Answer or the Ask command it takes between 50 and 
70 seconds to show the dialog.
But only the first time after I restart LiveCode, every next time I try to do 
this, it works as normal.
And it is not LiveCode that is non-responsive, the whole system hangs, that’s 
why i can tell how long it taken, because even the clock in my menubar is 
frozen…

During some tests with LC8, it takes anywhere from 2 to 2:30 minutes, so it is 
getting worse.

I already removes everything from LiveCode, but no difference.

Anybody a suggestion maybe?


Met vriendelijke groeten,
Warm Regards,



Ton Kuypers
+32 (0) 477 739 530

Steenweg op Leopoldsburg 100 • B-2490 • Balen • Belgium
www.publishingtools4u.com





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Re: Happy Christmas! Also, FOSDEM 2016.

[David Bovill]

Seconded. Re FOSDEM, I may now need to be in Berlin for that period. I will
know soon. Otherwise I would love to help / get involved.

On Friday, 18 December 2015, Trevor DeVore 
wrote:

> On Fri, Dec 18, 2015 at 11:46 AM, Peter TB Brett  >
> wrote:
>
> > Most of the core development team here at LiveCode Ltd. are off for our
> > Christmas holidays from today.  We wish you all the best for the
> Christmas
> > break, and we're looking forward to more LiveCode fun in 2016!
> >
> > Normal code-wrangling activities will resume on Tuesday 5th January 2016.
> > However, if all goes to plan, you should receive the Christmas gift of an
> > 8.0.0-dp-12 build early next week!
> >
>
> Merry Christmas to you and the team as well Peter. I, for one, have been
> very pleased with the hard work you've all done and the direction the
> LiveCode project is headed! Having a relaxing break.
>
> --
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Re: Licensing issues [was: Re: LC 8 DP 11]

[Mark Waddingham]

On 2015-12-18 18:38, sa...@hrz.uni-kassel.de wrote:

There we have two different views on this problem from two members of
the Livecode team, and I am inclined to judge that Mark is fully right
here.


No, there are not two different views - mine was not a view, it was a 
statement of fact which corrected Peter (who may not have realized you 
were talking about an old-style perpetual license).


Both your questions are clearly answered in the license agreement:

Section 1.d states:

1d) The Licensed Edition may be used exclusively by You on a reasonable 
number of machines and platforms You may have for Your own exclusive use 
and may not be transferred to, or loaned to, or used by another entity 
at any time or for any purpose.


(This is also clearly answered in the question 'Can I install LiveCode 
on more than one computer?' on the page 
https://livecode.com/products/livecode-platform/pricing/ which you 
referenced yourself).


Section 1.e states:

e) If the Licensed Edition has been purchased on a subscription basis it 
may only be used while your subscription is current. During the 
subscription term we will provide updates to the Licensed Edition free 
of charge. At the end of the term access to the Licensed Edition will 
cease unless You renew Your subscription. If he Licensed Edition has 
been purchased on a perpetual license basis then the version(s) for 
which You purchased a perpetual license may continue to be used past the 
end of any subscription term.


As your current (perpetual-style) license expires in August 2016, you 
have access to a perpetual version of all versions released (whether 
they be gm, rc or dp) up until that date.


I can only assume your sudden concern about your license and 
entitlements is related to your recent installation and licensing 
issues. However, I can assure you that they are entirely unrelated. We 
are still investigating a couple of issues in this area, but have yet 
got enough data to be able to determine what the problem might be.


Mark.

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