Re: Can a widget be in the background?

[Earthednet-wp]

Scott,
Thanks! You are the man!
Best,
Bill

William Prothero
http://es.earthednet.org

> On Mar 23, 2016, at 8:30 PM, Scott Rossi  wrote:
> 
> Use "Place Group" under the Object menu to place the group on any card
> that doesn't already have it.  If you copy and paste, you'll wind up with
> multiple copies of the group, instead of one group shared across multiple
> cards.
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Scott Rossi
> Creative Director
> Tactile Media, UX/UI Design
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On 3/23/16, 8:06 PM, "use-livecode on behalf of William Prothero"
>  proth...@earthednet.org> wrote:
> 
>> Please excuse me for the trivial questions. I found that a group can be a
>> shared background object.
>> But, I¹m wondering if for a stack with quite a few cards, a new group
>> with a shared background setting will only appear on new cards.
>> 
>> If I create a new stack with several cards, load several UI elements on
>> the first card, group them, then set them to ³Background Behavior², they
>> do not show up on all of the existing cards.
>> 
>> So, is there a way to make that background group then show up on all
>> cards? Or, is it simply a matter of copying that group to each card that
>> I want it on and setting ³Shared behavior² in the inspector?
>> 
>> Best,
>> Bill
>> 
>>> On Mar 23, 2016, at 4:37 PM, William Prothero 
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> I¹m about the replace a menubar with the menubar widget in DP16. What
>>> I¹m wondering is if this can be set up so it¹s on every card, like
>>> objects can.
>>> 
>>> Best,
>>> Bill
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> William Prothero, Ph.D.
>>> University of California, Santa Barbara, Emeritus
>>> proth...@earthednet.org
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
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Re: Anyone Using Atom for LC Script Editing

[Monte Goulding]

> On 24 Mar 2016, at 3:37 PM, Sannyasin Brahmanathaswami  
> wrote:
> 
> I'm contemplating moving from BBEdit to Atom
> 
> Any thoughts Atom as an editor for LC scripts?
> 
> This is "freaking amazing"
> 
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cFAzqvYoHJs
> 
> Do we have a package to colorize LC  or RevIgniter scripts?

Yes just search for livecode. The language pack includes syntax highlighting, 
code completion, snippets and live linting (script compilation errors) for LCS 
(server, scripts & script only stacks) and LCB. There’s some setup for the 
linting.

Cheers

Monte
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Anyone Using Atom for LC Script Editing

[Sannyasin Brahmanathaswami]

I'm contemplating moving from BBEdit to Atom

Any thoughts Atom as an editor for LC scripts?

This is "freaking amazing"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cFAzqvYoHJs

Do we have a package to colorize LC  or RevIgniter scripts?

BR
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Re: Mac App Store Submission

[Kay C Lan]

Wouldn't a better option be for this to reside here:

https://github.com/livecode/livecode/tree/community-docs/docs/guides

The guide would then be readily available via the Dictionary, a
logical place to look rather than just another URL one has to find. It
would also mean the guide is available offline.

It also should mean that in this constantly changing environment the
'Community' can help add the many permutations that any one single
person is never going to know.

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Re: Can a widget be in the background?

[Scott Rossi]

Use "Place Group" under the Object menu to place the group on any card
that doesn't already have it.  If you copy and paste, you'll wind up with
multiple copies of the group, instead of one group shared across multiple
cards.

Regards,

Scott Rossi
Creative Director
Tactile Media, UX/UI Design




On 3/23/16, 8:06 PM, "use-livecode on behalf of William Prothero"
 wrote:

>Please excuse me for the trivial questions. I found that a group can be a
>shared background object.
>But, I¹m wondering if for a stack with quite a few cards, a new group
>with a shared background setting will only appear on new cards.
>
>If I create a new stack with several cards, load several UI elements on
>the first card, group them, then set them to ³Background Behavior², they
>do not show up on all of the existing cards.
>
>So, is there a way to make that background group then show up on all
>cards? Or, is it simply a matter of copying that group to each card that
>I want it on and setting ³Shared behavior² in the inspector?
>
>Best,
>Bill
>
>> On Mar 23, 2016, at 4:37 PM, William Prothero 
>>wrote:
>> 
>> I¹m about the replace a menubar with the menubar widget in DP16. What
>>I¹m wondering is if this can be set up so it¹s on every card, like
>>objects can.
>> 
>> Best,
>> Bill
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> William Prothero, Ph.D.
>> University of California, Santa Barbara, Emeritus
>> proth...@earthednet.org
>> 
>> 
>> 
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Re: Can a widget be in the background?

[William Prothero]

Please excuse me for the trivial questions. I found that a group can be a 
shared background object. 
But, I’m wondering if for a stack with quite a few cards, a new group with a 
shared background setting will only appear on new cards. 

If I create a new stack with several cards, load several UI elements on the 
first card, group them, then set them to “Background Behavior”, they do not 
show up on all of the existing cards.

So, is there a way to make that background group then show up on all cards? Or, 
is it simply a matter of copying that group to each card that I want it on and 
setting “Shared behavior” in the inspector?

Best,
Bill

> On Mar 23, 2016, at 4:37 PM, William Prothero  wrote:
> 
> I’m about the replace a menubar with the menubar widget in DP16. What I’m 
> wondering is if this can be set up so it’s on every card, like objects can.
> 
> Best,
> Bill
> 
> 
> 
> William Prothero, Ph.D.
> University of California, Santa Barbara, Emeritus
> proth...@earthednet.org
> 
> 
> 
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Re: Would love to see this blog with 1,001 Uses stay FRESH

[Kay C Lan]

On Tue, Mar 22, 2016 at 7:49 AM, Peter W A Wood  wrote:
>  The first is that people are not submitting possible entries. The second is 
> I don't have time...

If you are on OS X you can create an Automator application (not
workflow) that will auto Quit after it's sent out an email to this
List asking for people to contribute. You can then use Calendar to
create  a repeating event every 4 or 6 months and set it's alarm to
open your Send Email Automator application.

Every 4/6 months you'll be reminded of the time you've saved when you
see your Auto email on this List.

The only gotcha is you need to run your Send Email application first
before having Calendar do it so you can tick off Gatekeeper's warning
that it's a non-recognised application. But even if you forget this
Calendar should give you a warning that it can't open the app the
first time it tries to run.

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Re: Looking for parser for Email (MIME)

[Kay C Lan]

On Tue, Mar 22, 2016 at 11:33 PM, Roland Huettmann
 wrote:
>
> I was searching for "file", "detailed file", "detailed files".

You can't be using LC8dp15 or greater because all I have to do is type
in 'detaile' and the list of hits is reduced to 3 with the one you are
looking for quite visible. If I type 'detailed fi' there is only one
hit and it's clearly the one you want:

the [{ detailed | long }] files

Since dp15 the Dictionary has been very much improved. Even when
working in LC 6 or 7 I keep LC 8 open so I can use it's Dictionary
because it's search feature is better.
>
> Anyway, I would appreciate a function giving the same pointing at just one
> selected file (not files). I will use my custom function doing that.

I generally find it a lot easier just to move the files I wish to work
on into a single folder, then declare that the defaultFolder. If there
is only one file in there then 'the detailed files' will report on the
one file. Alternatively you can always:

put shell("ls -l /hardDrive/User/Folder/FileToWorkOn.mbox") into tFileInfo

Look up 'shell' in the LC Dictionary for it's description

Use your favourite man page reader to look up all of the options for
the ls shell command

HTH

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[OT] batch image compression

[Colin Holgate]

I use a great Mac program that batch compresses images extremely fast, and have 
been using it at work a lot recently. A colleague is due to take over the 
compressing, but he’s using Windows.

What are the best Windows batch image compression applications? At the very 
least it would need to be able to choose a compression level for the batch, but 
a perfect solution would be to be able to compress to a specified file size, 
for the whole batch. Meaning that the compression quality would be changed for 
each image in order to meet the file size.
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Re: CEF glitches

[Martin Koob]

Thanks for adding to the bug report.

I see the same thing on Mac OS X Yosemite 10.10.5 with LiveCode 6.7.3.
- in Activity Monitor I also see two instances of rev browser-cefprocess
PIDs: 4289 & 4290 (this will vary of course)
---4290 has an application icon while 4289 does not.
- However if I call revBrowserInstances I get only get 1 instance returned.
- if I close the browser with revBrowserClose there is still one instance
showing in Activity monitor PID 4289 still with no application icon.
- if I open a browser instance again there are again two instances 4289 and
4323.
4323 now has the application icon

Interesting to see this affects Windows. I figured it was a Mac issue.  The
one difference there is though is that when I quit the LC IDE I get a crash
and a crash report.   

Is anyone else seeing this?

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Can a widget be in the background?

[William Prothero]

I’m about the replace a menubar with the menubar widget in DP16. What I’m 
wondering is if this can be set up so it’s on every card, like objects can.

Best,
Bill



William Prothero, Ph.D.
University of California, Santa Barbara, Emeritus
proth...@earthednet.org




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Re: iOS deployment question

[William Prothero]

Scott:
Yes, I’ve experienced this. I do think there could be some kind of “advice” 
document, blog, or something that puts some of the Apple jargon into livecode 
understandable terms, though. From the XCode error message, I thought the 
problem was the certificate (wild goose chase) but it was actually a minor 
detail in the provisioning profile that looked like it had nothing to do with 
my installation.

Oh well. Thanks for the comments,
Bill

> On Mar 23, 2016, at 3:34 PM, Scott Rossi  wrote:
> 
> Speaking as someone who took a stab at this
> (http://tactilemedia.com/download/How_to_publish_on_iOS_83013.pdf),
> it's a major amount of work that almost needs to be a part time job.  Not
> only does Apple change details of the process and add features to the
> system, but it updates/rearranges the tools and changes the layout of
> developer portal.  And once Apple makes changes, LiveCode makes changes to
> accommodate them.  So all the screenshots and step by step instructions
> you provide easily become out of date.
> 
> All of this, in addition to things that just come of nowhere, like the
> recent expiration of Apple's Worldwide Developer Certificate, make
> documenting the process a demanding effort.
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Scott Rossi
> Creative Director
> Tactile Media, UX/UI Design
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On 3/23/16, 1:29 PM, "use-livecode on behalf of Todd Fabacher"
> 
> wrote:
> 
>> Hello Bill,
>> 
>> Please please if you have any info on the steps of how to submit to  the
>> OSX Store. We are facing the same problems. I can find almost ZERO info on
>> what needs to be done to submit the app.
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> 
>> Todd
>> 
>>> On Mar 22, 2016, at 7:29 PM, William Prothero 
>>> earthednet.org> wrote:
>>> 
>>> I¹m getting an error when I try to build an iOS standalone. It is:
>>> ³Could not find a valid identity to use with the selected iOS profile.²
>>> 
>>> Where should I look? I¹ve downloaded a certificate and set the bundle
>>> of the provisioning profile to
>> org.earthednet.wWaterDetective, and it shows up in the Profile
>> setting, and I set the internal App ID to
>> org.earthednet.wWaterDetective.
>>> 
>>> I¹m in LC 8 DP 16, using Xcode 6.2.1.
>>> 
>>> Very frustrating. It would be really wonderful if, sometime, there was
>>> a list of possible complaints the
>> standalone builder would make, with possible solutions, or at least
>> some diagnostic things one could do.
>>> 
>>> Any suggestions would be much appreciated.
> 
> 
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Re: iOS deployment question

[Erik Beugelaar]

Maybe this Chrome extension below is usefull when dealing with provisioning
files.

App IDs are "the herpes of iPhone provisioning". Once you've created one,
you're ...

http://simonwhitaker.github.io/app-id-sanity/

Cheers,
Erik





On Wednesday, 23 March 2016, Scott Rossi  wrote:

> Speaking as someone who took a stab at this
> (http://tactilemedia.com/download/How_to_publish_on_iOS_83013.pdf),
> it's a major amount of work that almost needs to be a part time job.  Not
> only does Apple change details of the process and add features to the
> system, but it updates/rearranges the tools and changes the layout of
> developer portal.  And once Apple makes changes, LiveCode makes changes to
> accommodate them.  So all the screenshots and step by step instructions
> you provide easily become out of date.
>
> All of this, in addition to things that just come of nowhere, like the
> recent expiration of Apple's Worldwide Developer Certificate, make
> documenting the process a demanding effort.
>
> Regards,
>
> Scott Rossi
> Creative Director
> Tactile Media, UX/UI Design
>
>
>
>
> On 3/23/16, 1:29 PM, "use-livecode on behalf of Todd Fabacher"
>  on behalf of
> tfabac...@gmail.com >
> wrote:
>
> >Hello Bill,
> >
> >Please please if you have any info on the steps of how to submit to  the
> >OSX Store. We are facing the same problems. I can find almost ZERO info on
> >what needs to be done to submit the app.
> >
> >Thanks,
> >
> >Todd
> >
> >> On Mar 22, 2016, at 7:29 PM, William Prothero 
> >>earthednet.org> wrote:
> >>
> >> I¹m getting an error when I try to build an iOS standalone. It is:
> >> ³Could not find a valid identity to use with the selected iOS profile.²
> >>
> >> Where should I look? I¹ve downloaded a certificate and set the bundle
> >>of the provisioning profile to
> >org.earthednet.wWaterDetective, and it shows up in the Profile
> >setting, and I set the internal App ID to
> >org.earthednet.wWaterDetective.
> >>
> >> I¹m in LC 8 DP 16, using Xcode 6.2.1.
> >>
> >> Very frustrating. It would be really wonderful if, sometime, there was
> >>a list of possible complaints the
> >standalone builder would make, with possible solutions, or at least
> >some diagnostic things one could do.
> >>
> >> Any suggestions would be much appreciated.
>
>
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Re: [ANN] guides for positioning of controls

[BNig]

Peter TB Brett wrote
>> - 
>> http://berndniggemann.on-rev.com/guides/bnGuides_0_4.livecode.zip
>> -
> 
> Hi Bernd,
> 
> Unfortunately that link is broken for me!  Is it working for you?
> 
>  Peter

Please try again, I saw from the logs that someone had a 404 while I was
uploading a correction for a typo.

Kind regards
Bernd



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Re: [ANN] guides for positioning of controls

[Peter TB Brett]

On 23/03/2016 21:26, BNig wrote:

I was asked by Rolf Kocherhans if one could do a guide system when doing the
layout of controls on a card.
Here is a plugin that does that: once the plugin is started any control you
select in edit mode can be moved around and controls that have matching
positions for left, top, right bottom and middle will be indicated by guides

Just start the stack, when opening for the first time it will ask if you
want to move it to the plugin folder. Once that is done you can choose the
plugin from Development -> Plugins -> bnGuides

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http://berndniggemann.on-rev.com/guides/bnGuides_0_4.livecode.zip
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Hi Bernd,

Unfortunately that link is broken for me!  Is it working for you?

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Re: iOS deployment question

[Scott Rossi]

Speaking as someone who took a stab at this
(http://tactilemedia.com/download/How_to_publish_on_iOS_83013.pdf),
it's a major amount of work that almost needs to be a part time job.  Not
only does Apple change details of the process and add features to the
system, but it updates/rearranges the tools and changes the layout of
developer portal.  And once Apple makes changes, LiveCode makes changes to
accommodate them.  So all the screenshots and step by step instructions
you provide easily become out of date.

All of this, in addition to things that just come of nowhere, like the
recent expiration of Apple's Worldwide Developer Certificate, make
documenting the process a demanding effort.

Regards,

Scott Rossi
Creative Director
Tactile Media, UX/UI Design




On 3/23/16, 1:29 PM, "use-livecode on behalf of Todd Fabacher"

wrote:

>Hello Bill,
>
>Please please if you have any info on the steps of how to submit to  the
>OSX Store. We are facing the same problems. I can find almost ZERO info on
>what needs to be done to submit the app.
>
>Thanks,
>
>Todd
>
>> On Mar 22, 2016, at 7:29 PM, William Prothero 
>>earthednet.org> wrote:
>>
>> I¹m getting an error when I try to build an iOS standalone. It is:
>> ³Could not find a valid identity to use with the selected iOS profile.²
>>
>> Where should I look? I¹ve downloaded a certificate and set the bundle
>>of the provisioning profile to
>org.earthednet.wWaterDetective, and it shows up in the Profile
>setting, and I set the internal App ID to
>org.earthednet.wWaterDetective.
>>
>> I¹m in LC 8 DP 16, using Xcode 6.2.1.
>>
>> Very frustrating. It would be really wonderful if, sometime, there was
>>a list of possible complaints the
>standalone builder would make, with possible solutions, or at least
>some diagnostic things one could do.
>>
>> Any suggestions would be much appreciated.



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Re: [ANN] guides for positioning of controls

[-hh]

Excellent tool, I like it. Makes positioning easy and fast.
And: also tested to work on RaspberryPi 3 ;-)

H.



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Re: iOS deployment question

[William Prothero]

Last post on this subject:
I also got it working by changing my provisioning profile to include both iPad 
and iPhone. Previously I had only checked the iPhone option. But, I guess I 
must have entered a device description for my iPad too. H… what an obtuse 
system.
Bill
> On Mar 23, 2016, at 2:23 PM, William Prothero  wrote:
> 
> Folks:
> Ok, what I got working was a profile that was named “iOS Team Provisioning 
> Profile”. There was a wildcard version, and a version with my app ID 
> attached. Both worked. The specific profiles I created for the app itself 
> gave the error.
> 
> Since this is an app that I will only use myself, on my iPhone, that’s good 
> enough.
> 
> I’ll go back and carefully check your suggestions, though Scott. At present, 
> I need some lunch. Been staring at the screen too long.
> 
> Best,
> Bill
> 
>> On Mar 23, 2016, at 2:09 PM, Scott Rossi  wrote:
>> 
>> This might be a naming issue.  In standalone settings, make sure that the
>> last item in the entry for Internal App ID matches the app name you set up
>> in your provisioning profile in Apple's developer portal.  The Internal
>> App ID should look like this:
>> 
>> com..
>> 
>>  is the part that needs to match whatever you set up in the
>> portal.
>> 
>> Also make sure that you have the correct item selected in the  Profile
>> pulldown.
>> 
>> Regards,
>> 
>> Scott Rossi
>> Creative Director
>> Tactile Media, UX/UI Design
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On 3/23/16, 1:54 PM, "use-livecode on behalf of William Prothero"
>> > proth...@earthednet.org> wrote:
>> 
>>> Folks:
>>> Iąm stuck.  I keep getting the error message:
>>> 
>>> "The entitlements specified in your applicationąs Code Signing
>>> Entitlements file do not match those specified in your provisioning
>>> profile. (0xE8008016)."
>>> 
>>> Folks:
>>> 
>>> So: Is this a problem with the certificate, or with the options I select
>>> on the iOS settings in Livecode?
>>> It sounds like it is complaining about the code signing certificate. I
>>> have checked, downloaded, tried, to no avail.
>>> 
>>> Iąm stuck. Any comments or direction would  be MUCH appreciated. One
>>> problem for me is the jargon that Apple uses doesnąt match up well with
>>> the Livecode jargon, so itąs very difficult to tell where to go to figure
>>> out whatąs going on. Not to mention that the Apple documentation doesnąt
>>> always match up with xcode screen.
>>> 
>>> Bill
>>> 
 On Mar 23, 2016, at 12:44 PM, William Prothero
  wrote:
 
 Iąm wondering if there is a way to smooth out this error for the user.
 
 When I try to load my app onto my iPhone for testing, I get the
 following message from XCode:
 
 T"he entitlements specified in your applicationąs Code Signing
 Entitlements file do not match those specified in your provisioning
 profile. (0xE8008016).˛
 
 Iąm wondering if there is a way for Livecode to provide more diagnostic
 information about the validity of the provisioning profile. The message
 above from XCode doesnąt give much help.
 
 Best,
 Bill
 
> On Mar 23, 2016, at 7:35 AM, Earthednet-wp 
> wrote:
> 
> Graham,
> I can take some notes. What I did to fix it was to delete all my
> developer certificates from my keychain and re-activate them. That was
> after I realized that the reference to "identity" actually meant that
> it couldn't find a valid certificate. Now it seems obvious, but didn't
> at first. I remember some postings a while back re the need to get a
> new certificate. In the process, I mucked up my entire keychain and had
> to recover it using the wonderful "Time Machine".
> 
> Now I'm fiddling with the provisioning profile to make its setup match
> with the standalone settings for iOS. One thing I see as I fiddle, is
> multiple provisioning profile in the drop down menu on iOS settings.
> Each new change and download on the Apple dev site creates a new one
> and the name doesn't change unless I do in in the apple developer
> website. Haven't figured out a way to delete old ones yet, but that
> will come.
> 
> I'm just giving these details of my thought so that if somebody
> decides to write up this, with all it's messiness, they might see what
> newbies go thru. I'm not a newby anymore, but I only work with iOS
> occasionally and the process seems to always be painful.
> 
> I'll take some notes and if they seem relevant, I'll post them
> somewhere.
> 
> Best,
> Bill
> 
> William Prothero
> http://es.earthednet.org
> 
>> On Mar 23, 2016, at 2:46 AM, Graham Samuel  wrote:
>> 
>> Care to write it up, William?
>> 
>> AFAICS, coding in LiveCode is a trouble-free activity compared to
>> 

Re: iOS deployment question

[William Prothero]

Last post on this subject:
I also got it working by changing my provisioning profile to include both iPad 
and iPhone. Previously I had only checked the iPhone option. But, I guess I 
must have entered a device description for my iPad too. H… what an obtuse 
system.
Bill

> On Mar 23, 2016, at 2:23 PM, William Prothero  wrote:
> 
> Folks:
> Ok, what I got working was a profile that was named “iOS Team Provisioning 
> Profile”. There was a wildcard version, and a version with my app ID 
> attached. Both worked. The specific profiles I created for the app itself 
> gave the error.
> 
> Since this is an app that I will only use myself, on my iPhone, that’s good 
> enough.
> 
> I’ll go back and carefully check your suggestions, though Scott. At present, 
> I need some lunch. Been staring at the screen too long.
> 
> Best,
> Bill
> 
>> On Mar 23, 2016, at 2:09 PM, Scott Rossi  wrote:
>> 
>> This might be a naming issue.  In standalone settings, make sure that the
>> last item in the entry for Internal App ID matches the app name you set up
>> in your provisioning profile in Apple's developer portal.  The Internal
>> App ID should look like this:
>> 
>> com..
>> 
>>  is the part that needs to match whatever you set up in the
>> portal.
>> 
>> Also make sure that you have the correct item selected in the  Profile
>> pulldown.
>> 
>> Regards,
>> 
>> Scott Rossi
>> Creative Director
>> Tactile Media, UX/UI Design
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On 3/23/16, 1:54 PM, "use-livecode on behalf of William Prothero"
>> > proth...@earthednet.org> wrote:
>> 
>>> Folks:
>>> Iąm stuck.  I keep getting the error message:
>>> 
>>> "The entitlements specified in your applicationąs Code Signing
>>> Entitlements file do not match those specified in your provisioning
>>> profile. (0xE8008016)."
>>> 
>>> Folks:
>>> 
>>> So: Is this a problem with the certificate, or with the options I select
>>> on the iOS settings in Livecode?
>>> It sounds like it is complaining about the code signing certificate. I
>>> have checked, downloaded, tried, to no avail.
>>> 
>>> Iąm stuck. Any comments or direction would  be MUCH appreciated. One
>>> problem for me is the jargon that Apple uses doesnąt match up well with
>>> the Livecode jargon, so itąs very difficult to tell where to go to figure
>>> out whatąs going on. Not to mention that the Apple documentation doesnąt
>>> always match up with xcode screen.
>>> 
>>> Bill
>>> 
 On Mar 23, 2016, at 12:44 PM, William Prothero
  wrote:
 
 Iąm wondering if there is a way to smooth out this error for the user.
 
 When I try to load my app onto my iPhone for testing, I get the
 following message from XCode:
 
 T"he entitlements specified in your applicationąs Code Signing
 Entitlements file do not match those specified in your provisioning
 profile. (0xE8008016).˛
 
 Iąm wondering if there is a way for Livecode to provide more diagnostic
 information about the validity of the provisioning profile. The message
 above from XCode doesnąt give much help.
 
 Best,
 Bill
 
> On Mar 23, 2016, at 7:35 AM, Earthednet-wp 
> wrote:
> 
> Graham,
> I can take some notes. What I did to fix it was to delete all my
> developer certificates from my keychain and re-activate them. That was
> after I realized that the reference to "identity" actually meant that
> it couldn't find a valid certificate. Now it seems obvious, but didn't
> at first. I remember some postings a while back re the need to get a
> new certificate. In the process, I mucked up my entire keychain and had
> to recover it using the wonderful "Time Machine".
> 
> Now I'm fiddling with the provisioning profile to make its setup match
> with the standalone settings for iOS. One thing I see as I fiddle, is
> multiple provisioning profile in the drop down menu on iOS settings.
> Each new change and download on the Apple dev site creates a new one
> and the name doesn't change unless I do in in the apple developer
> website. Haven't figured out a way to delete old ones yet, but that
> will come.
> 
> I'm just giving these details of my thought so that if somebody
> decides to write up this, with all it's messiness, they might see what
> newbies go thru. I'm not a newby anymore, but I only work with iOS
> occasionally and the process seems to always be painful.
> 
> I'll take some notes and if they seem relevant, I'll post them
> somewhere.
> 
> Best,
> Bill
> 
> William Prothero
> http://es.earthednet.org
> 
>> On Mar 23, 2016, at 2:46 AM, Graham Samuel  wrote:
>> 
>> Care to write it up, William?
>> 
>> AFAICS, coding in LiveCode is a trouble-free activity compared to
>> 

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Re: iOS deployment question

[William Prothero]

Folks:
Ok, what I got working was a profile that was named “iOS Team Provisioning 
Profile”. There was a wildcard version, and a version with my app ID attached. 
Both worked. The specific profiles I created for the app itself gave the error.

Since this is an app that I will only use myself, on my iPhone, that’s good 
enough.

I’ll go back and carefully check your suggestions, though Scott. At present, I 
need some lunch. Been staring at the screen too long.

Best,
Bill

> On Mar 23, 2016, at 2:09 PM, Scott Rossi  wrote:
> 
> This might be a naming issue.  In standalone settings, make sure that the
> last item in the entry for Internal App ID matches the app name you set up
> in your provisioning profile in Apple's developer portal.  The Internal
> App ID should look like this:
> 
> com..
> 
>  is the part that needs to match whatever you set up in the
> portal.
> 
> Also make sure that you have the correct item selected in the  Profile
> pulldown.
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Scott Rossi
> Creative Director
> Tactile Media, UX/UI Design
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On 3/23/16, 1:54 PM, "use-livecode on behalf of William Prothero"
>  proth...@earthednet.org> wrote:
> 
>> Folks:
>> Iąm stuck.  I keep getting the error message:
>> 
>> "The entitlements specified in your applicationąs Code Signing
>> Entitlements file do not match those specified in your provisioning
>> profile. (0xE8008016)."
>> 
>> Folks:
>> 
>> So: Is this a problem with the certificate, or with the options I select
>> on the iOS settings in Livecode?
>> It sounds like it is complaining about the code signing certificate. I
>> have checked, downloaded, tried, to no avail.
>> 
>> Iąm stuck. Any comments or direction would  be MUCH appreciated. One
>> problem for me is the jargon that Apple uses doesnąt match up well with
>> the Livecode jargon, so itąs very difficult to tell where to go to figure
>> out whatąs going on. Not to mention that the Apple documentation doesnąt
>> always match up with xcode screen.
>> 
>> Bill
>> 
>>> On Mar 23, 2016, at 12:44 PM, William Prothero
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Iąm wondering if there is a way to smooth out this error for the user.
>>> 
>>> When I try to load my app onto my iPhone for testing, I get the
>>> following message from XCode:
>>> 
>>> T"he entitlements specified in your applicationąs Code Signing
>>> Entitlements file do not match those specified in your provisioning
>>> profile. (0xE8008016).˛
>>> 
>>> Iąm wondering if there is a way for Livecode to provide more diagnostic
>>> information about the validity of the provisioning profile. The message
>>> above from XCode doesnąt give much help.
>>> 
>>> Best,
>>> Bill
>>> 
 On Mar 23, 2016, at 7:35 AM, Earthednet-wp 
 wrote:
 
 Graham,
 I can take some notes. What I did to fix it was to delete all my
 developer certificates from my keychain and re-activate them. That was
 after I realized that the reference to "identity" actually meant that
 it couldn't find a valid certificate. Now it seems obvious, but didn't
 at first. I remember some postings a while back re the need to get a
 new certificate. In the process, I mucked up my entire keychain and had
 to recover it using the wonderful "Time Machine".
 
 Now I'm fiddling with the provisioning profile to make its setup match
 with the standalone settings for iOS. One thing I see as I fiddle, is
 multiple provisioning profile in the drop down menu on iOS settings.
 Each new change and download on the Apple dev site creates a new one
 and the name doesn't change unless I do in in the apple developer
 website. Haven't figured out a way to delete old ones yet, but that
 will come.
 
 I'm just giving these details of my thought so that if somebody
 decides to write up this, with all it's messiness, they might see what
 newbies go thru. I'm not a newby anymore, but I only work with iOS
 occasionally and the process seems to always be painful.
 
 I'll take some notes and if they seem relevant, I'll post them
 somewhere.
 
 Best,
 Bill
 
 William Prothero
 http://es.earthednet.org
 
> On Mar 23, 2016, at 2:46 AM, Graham Samuel  wrote:
> 
> Care to write it up, William?
> 
> AFAICS, coding in LiveCode is a trouble-free activity compared to
> deployment on iOS (or indeed on LiveCode Server, Android etc). Arcane
> rules, certificates, permissionsŠ even the vocabulary seems to have
> been re-invented to confuse the honest programmer. Of course, thatąs
> just my view, and I am not young. Still, it seems to me that one of
> the biggest challenges for LiveCode is to make the whole process, from
> having the idea for the app all the way to successfully publishing it,
> a journey with no u-turns, dead ends, or deep 

Re: iOS deployment question

[Scott Rossi]

This might be a naming issue.  In standalone settings, make sure that the
last item in the entry for Internal App ID matches the app name you set up
in your provisioning profile in Apple's developer portal.  The Internal
App ID should look like this:

com..

 is the part that needs to match whatever you set up in the
portal.

Also make sure that you have the correct item selected in the  Profile
pulldown.

Regards,

Scott Rossi
Creative Director
Tactile Media, UX/UI Design




On 3/23/16, 1:54 PM, "use-livecode on behalf of William Prothero"
 wrote:

>Folks:
>I¹m stuck.  I keep getting the error message:
>
>"The entitlements specified in your application¹s Code Signing
>Entitlements file do not match those specified in your provisioning
>profile. (0xE8008016)."
>
>Folks:
>
>So: Is this a problem with the certificate, or with the options I select
>on the iOS settings in Livecode?
>It sounds like it is complaining about the code signing certificate. I
>have checked, downloaded, tried, to no avail.
>
>I¹m stuck. Any comments or direction would  be MUCH appreciated. One
>problem for me is the jargon that Apple uses doesn¹t match up well with
>the Livecode jargon, so it¹s very difficult to tell where to go to figure
>out what¹s going on. Not to mention that the Apple documentation doesn¹t
>always match up with xcode screen.
>
>Bill
>
>> On Mar 23, 2016, at 12:44 PM, William Prothero
>> wrote:
>> 
>> I¹m wondering if there is a way to smooth out this error for the user.
>> 
>> When I try to load my app onto my iPhone for testing, I get the
>>following message from XCode:
>> 
>> T"he entitlements specified in your application¹s Code Signing
>>Entitlements file do not match those specified in your provisioning
>>profile. (0xE8008016).²
>> 
>> I¹m wondering if there is a way for Livecode to provide more diagnostic
>>information about the validity of the provisioning profile. The message
>>above from XCode doesn¹t give much help.
>> 
>> Best,
>> Bill
>> 
>>> On Mar 23, 2016, at 7:35 AM, Earthednet-wp 
>>>wrote:
>>> 
>>> Graham,
>>> I can take some notes. What I did to fix it was to delete all my
>>>developer certificates from my keychain and re-activate them. That was
>>>after I realized that the reference to "identity" actually meant that
>>>it couldn't find a valid certificate. Now it seems obvious, but didn't
>>>at first. I remember some postings a while back re the need to get a
>>>new certificate. In the process, I mucked up my entire keychain and had
>>>to recover it using the wonderful "Time Machine".
>>> 
>>> Now I'm fiddling with the provisioning profile to make its setup match
>>>with the standalone settings for iOS. One thing I see as I fiddle, is
>>>multiple provisioning profile in the drop down menu on iOS settings.
>>>Each new change and download on the Apple dev site creates a new one
>>>and the name doesn't change unless I do in in the apple developer
>>>website. Haven't figured out a way to delete old ones yet, but that
>>>will come.
>>> 
>>> I'm just giving these details of my thought so that if somebody
>>>decides to write up this, with all it's messiness, they might see what
>>>newbies go thru. I'm not a newby anymore, but I only work with iOS
>>>occasionally and the process seems to always be painful.
>>> 
>>> I'll take some notes and if they seem relevant, I'll post them
>>>somewhere.
>>> 
>>> Best,
>>> Bill
>>> 
>>> William Prothero
>>> http://es.earthednet.org
>>> 
 On Mar 23, 2016, at 2:46 AM, Graham Samuel  wrote:
 
 Care to write it up, William?
 
 AFAICS, coding in LiveCode is a trouble-free activity compared to
deployment on iOS (or indeed on LiveCode Server, Android etc). Arcane
rules, certificates, permissionsŠ even the vocabulary seems to have
been re-invented to confuse the honest programmer. Of course, that¹s
just my view, and I am not young. Still, it seems to me that one of
the biggest challenges for LiveCode is to make the whole process, from
having the idea for the app all the way to successfully publishing it,
a journey with no u-turns, dead ends, or deep frustration at lack of
progress.
 
 Just my two eurocents
 
 Graham
 
> On 23 Mar 2016, at 04:34, William Prothero 
>wrote:
> 
> Never mindŠŠ Got it to work.
> Bill
> 
>> On Mar 22, 2016, at 8:17 PM, William Prothero
>> wrote:
>> 
>> I can see, after Googling around a bit, that getting the
>>certificates signed and set up correctly is quite complicated, with
>>lots of ways of going wrong. With out-dated certificates, old
>>provisioning profiles, etc.
>> 
>> I wonder if there is a way to make this more robust and
>>transparent. Like some app that will go through the settings,
>>certificates, and 

Re: iOS deployment question

[William Prothero]

Panos:
Thanks for the idea. Nope, beta version isn’t checked.
I’m using a Development profile.

Todd:
Yes, there is a major need for more information and help getting mobile apps 
through the process. It’s really ugly for newbies. It’s made even more 
difficult because Apple keeps making changes and even their documentation gets 
out of date. Mobile development is a major capability of Livecode and it seems 
that very little attention (or at least insufficient) attention is being given 
to making it as seamless as the platform promises.

Best,
Bill

> On Mar 23, 2016, at 1:45 PM, panagiotis merakos  wrote:
> 
> Hi Bill,
> 
> Just a thought:
> Could it be the case that you have checked the "Beta version" checkbox in
> the standalone application settings for iOS, but you sign the app using a
> Development profile?
> 
> I think the "Beta version" checkbox has to be used *only* with a
> Distribution profile.
> 
> Regards,
> Panos
> --
> 
> On Wed, Mar 23, 2016 at 9:44 PM, William Prothero 
> wrote:
> 
>> I’m wondering if there is a way to smooth out this error for the user.
>> 
>> When I try to load my app onto my iPhone for testing, I get the following
>> message from XCode:
>> 
>> T"he entitlements specified in your application’s Code Signing
>> Entitlements file do not match those specified in your provisioning
>> profile. (0xE8008016).”
>> 
>> I’m wondering if there is a way for Livecode to provide more diagnostic
>> information about the validity of the provisioning profile. The message
>> above from XCode doesn’t give much help.
>> 
>> Best,
>> Bill
>> 
>>> On Mar 23, 2016, at 7:35 AM, Earthednet-wp 
>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Graham,
>>> I can take some notes. What I did to fix it was to delete all my
>> developer certificates from my keychain and re-activate them. That was
>> after I realized that the reference to "identity" actually meant that it
>> couldn't find a valid certificate. Now it seems obvious, but didn't at
>> first. I remember some postings a while back re the need to get a new
>> certificate. In the process, I mucked up my entire keychain and had to
>> recover it using the wonderful "Time Machine".
>>> 
>>> Now I'm fiddling with the provisioning profile to make its setup match
>> with the standalone settings for iOS. One thing I see as I fiddle, is
>> multiple provisioning profile in the drop down menu on iOS settings. Each
>> new change and download on the Apple dev site creates a new one and the
>> name doesn't change unless I do in in the apple developer website. Haven't
>> figured out a way to delete old ones yet, but that will come.
>>> 
>>> I'm just giving these details of my thought so that if somebody decides
>> to write up this, with all it's messiness, they might see what newbies go
>> thru. I'm not a newby anymore, but I only work with iOS occasionally and
>> the process seems to always be painful.
>>> 
>>> I'll take some notes and if they seem relevant, I'll post them somewhere.
>>> 
>>> Best,
>>> Bill
>>> 
>>> William Prothero
>>> http://es.earthednet.org
>>> 
 On Mar 23, 2016, at 2:46 AM, Graham Samuel  wrote:
 
 Care to write it up, William?
 
 AFAICS, coding in LiveCode is a trouble-free activity compared to
>> deployment on iOS (or indeed on LiveCode Server, Android etc). Arcane
>> rules, certificates, permissions… even the vocabulary seems to have been
>> re-invented to confuse the honest programmer. Of course, that’s just my
>> view, and I am not young. Still, it seems to me that one of the biggest
>> challenges for LiveCode is to make the whole process, from having the idea
>> for the app all the way to successfully publishing it, a journey with no
>> u-turns, dead ends, or deep frustration at lack of progress.
 
 Just my two eurocents
 
 Graham
 
> On 23 Mar 2016, at 04:34, William Prothero 
>> wrote:
> 
> Never mind…… Got it to work.
> Bill
> 
>> On Mar 22, 2016, at 8:17 PM, William Prothero <
>> proth...@earthednet.org> wrote:
>> 
>> I can see, after Googling around a bit, that getting the certificates
>> signed and set up correctly is quite complicated, with lots of ways of
>> going wrong. With out-dated certificates, old provisioning profiles, etc.
>> 
>> I wonder if there is a way to make this more robust and transparent.
>> Like some app that will go through the settings, certificates, and
>> provisioning profiles and give a diagnostic. Or perhaps, could the Livecode
>> diagnostics give more information to help figure out what’s going wrong?
>> This seems like a real need to me.
>> 
>> Maybe it’s too much to hope for. It takes me a day or two of
>> hair-pulling to get this set up after being away from making iOS apps for
>> awhile.
>> 
>> Best,
>> Bill
>> 
>>> On Mar 22, 2016, at 7:29 PM, William Prothero <
>> proth...@earthednet.org> wrote:
>>> 

Re: iOS deployment question

[William Prothero]

Folks:
I’m stuck.  I keep getting the error message:

"The entitlements specified in your application’s Code Signing Entitlements 
file do not match those specified in your provisioning profile. (0xE8008016)."

Folks:

So: Is this a problem with the certificate, or with the options I select on the 
iOS settings in Livecode?
It sounds like it is complaining about the code signing certificate. I have 
checked, downloaded, tried, to no avail. 

I’m stuck. Any comments or direction would  be MUCH appreciated. One problem 
for me is the jargon that Apple uses doesn’t match up well with the Livecode 
jargon, so it’s very difficult to tell where to go to figure out what’s going 
on. Not to mention that the Apple documentation doesn’t always match up with 
xcode screen.

Bill

> On Mar 23, 2016, at 12:44 PM, William Prothero  
> wrote:
> 
> I’m wondering if there is a way to smooth out this error for the user.
> 
> When I try to load my app onto my iPhone for testing, I get the following 
> message from XCode:
> 
> T"he entitlements specified in your application’s Code Signing Entitlements 
> file do not match those specified in your provisioning profile. (0xE8008016).”
> 
> I’m wondering if there is a way for Livecode to provide more diagnostic 
> information about the validity of the provisioning profile. The message above 
> from XCode doesn’t give much help. 
> 
> Best,
> Bill
> 
>> On Mar 23, 2016, at 7:35 AM, Earthednet-wp  wrote:
>> 
>> Graham,
>> I can take some notes. What I did to fix it was to delete all my developer 
>> certificates from my keychain and re-activate them. That was after I 
>> realized that the reference to "identity" actually meant that it couldn't 
>> find a valid certificate. Now it seems obvious, but didn't at first. I 
>> remember some postings a while back re the need to get a new certificate. In 
>> the process, I mucked up my entire keychain and had to recover it using the 
>> wonderful "Time Machine". 
>> 
>> Now I'm fiddling with the provisioning profile to make its setup match with 
>> the standalone settings for iOS. One thing I see as I fiddle, is multiple 
>> provisioning profile in the drop down menu on iOS settings. Each new change 
>> and download on the Apple dev site creates a new one and the name doesn't 
>> change unless I do in in the apple developer website. Haven't figured out a 
>> way to delete old ones yet, but that will come.
>> 
>> I'm just giving these details of my thought so that if somebody decides to 
>> write up this, with all it's messiness, they might see what newbies go thru. 
>> I'm not a newby anymore, but I only work with iOS occasionally and the 
>> process seems to always be painful.
>> 
>> I'll take some notes and if they seem relevant, I'll post them somewhere.
>> 
>> Best,
>> Bill
>> 
>> William Prothero
>> http://es.earthednet.org
>> 
>>> On Mar 23, 2016, at 2:46 AM, Graham Samuel  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Care to write it up, William? 
>>> 
>>> AFAICS, coding in LiveCode is a trouble-free activity compared to 
>>> deployment on iOS (or indeed on LiveCode Server, Android etc). Arcane 
>>> rules, certificates, permissions… even the vocabulary seems to have been 
>>> re-invented to confuse the honest programmer. Of course, that’s just my 
>>> view, and I am not young. Still, it seems to me that one of the biggest 
>>> challenges for LiveCode is to make the whole process, from having the idea 
>>> for the app all the way to successfully publishing it, a journey with no 
>>> u-turns, dead ends, or deep frustration at lack of progress.
>>> 
>>> Just my two eurocents
>>> 
>>> Graham
>>> 
 On 23 Mar 2016, at 04:34, William Prothero  wrote:
 
 Never mind…… Got it to work.
 Bill
 
> On Mar 22, 2016, at 8:17 PM, William Prothero  
> wrote:
> 
> I can see, after Googling around a bit, that getting the certificates 
> signed and set up correctly is quite complicated, with lots of ways of 
> going wrong. With out-dated certificates, old provisioning profiles, etc.
> 
> I wonder if there is a way to make this more robust and transparent. Like 
> some app that will go through the settings, certificates, and 
> provisioning profiles and give a diagnostic. Or perhaps, could the 
> Livecode diagnostics give more information to help figure out what’s 
> going wrong? This seems like a real need to me.
> 
> Maybe it’s too much to hope for. It takes me a day or two of hair-pulling 
> to get this set up after being away from making iOS apps for awhile. 
> 
> Best,
> Bill
> 
>> On Mar 22, 2016, at 7:29 PM, William Prothero  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> I’m getting an error when I try to build an iOS standalone. It is:
>> “Could not find a valid identity to use with the selected iOS profile.”
>> 
>> Where should I look? 

Re: iOS deployment question

[panagiotis merakos]

Hi Bill,

Just a thought:
Could it be the case that you have checked the "Beta version" checkbox in
the standalone application settings for iOS, but you sign the app using a
Development profile?

I think the "Beta version" checkbox has to be used *only* with a
Distribution profile.

Regards,
Panos
--

On Wed, Mar 23, 2016 at 9:44 PM, William Prothero 
wrote:

> I’m wondering if there is a way to smooth out this error for the user.
>
> When I try to load my app onto my iPhone for testing, I get the following
> message from XCode:
>
> T"he entitlements specified in your application’s Code Signing
> Entitlements file do not match those specified in your provisioning
> profile. (0xE8008016).”
>
> I’m wondering if there is a way for Livecode to provide more diagnostic
> information about the validity of the provisioning profile. The message
> above from XCode doesn’t give much help.
>
> Best,
> Bill
>
> > On Mar 23, 2016, at 7:35 AM, Earthednet-wp 
> wrote:
> >
> > Graham,
> > I can take some notes. What I did to fix it was to delete all my
> developer certificates from my keychain and re-activate them. That was
> after I realized that the reference to "identity" actually meant that it
> couldn't find a valid certificate. Now it seems obvious, but didn't at
> first. I remember some postings a while back re the need to get a new
> certificate. In the process, I mucked up my entire keychain and had to
> recover it using the wonderful "Time Machine".
> >
> > Now I'm fiddling with the provisioning profile to make its setup match
> with the standalone settings for iOS. One thing I see as I fiddle, is
> multiple provisioning profile in the drop down menu on iOS settings. Each
> new change and download on the Apple dev site creates a new one and the
> name doesn't change unless I do in in the apple developer website. Haven't
> figured out a way to delete old ones yet, but that will come.
> >
> > I'm just giving these details of my thought so that if somebody decides
> to write up this, with all it's messiness, they might see what newbies go
> thru. I'm not a newby anymore, but I only work with iOS occasionally and
> the process seems to always be painful.
> >
> > I'll take some notes and if they seem relevant, I'll post them somewhere.
> >
> > Best,
> > Bill
> >
> > William Prothero
> > http://es.earthednet.org
> >
> >> On Mar 23, 2016, at 2:46 AM, Graham Samuel  wrote:
> >>
> >> Care to write it up, William?
> >>
> >> AFAICS, coding in LiveCode is a trouble-free activity compared to
> deployment on iOS (or indeed on LiveCode Server, Android etc). Arcane
> rules, certificates, permissions… even the vocabulary seems to have been
> re-invented to confuse the honest programmer. Of course, that’s just my
> view, and I am not young. Still, it seems to me that one of the biggest
> challenges for LiveCode is to make the whole process, from having the idea
> for the app all the way to successfully publishing it, a journey with no
> u-turns, dead ends, or deep frustration at lack of progress.
> >>
> >> Just my two eurocents
> >>
> >> Graham
> >>
> >>> On 23 Mar 2016, at 04:34, William Prothero 
> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Never mind…… Got it to work.
> >>> Bill
> >>>
>  On Mar 22, 2016, at 8:17 PM, William Prothero <
> proth...@earthednet.org> wrote:
> 
>  I can see, after Googling around a bit, that getting the certificates
> signed and set up correctly is quite complicated, with lots of ways of
> going wrong. With out-dated certificates, old provisioning profiles, etc.
> 
>  I wonder if there is a way to make this more robust and transparent.
> Like some app that will go through the settings, certificates, and
> provisioning profiles and give a diagnostic. Or perhaps, could the Livecode
> diagnostics give more information to help figure out what’s going wrong?
> This seems like a real need to me.
> 
>  Maybe it’s too much to hope for. It takes me a day or two of
> hair-pulling to get this set up after being away from making iOS apps for
> awhile.
> 
>  Best,
>  Bill
> 
> > On Mar 22, 2016, at 7:29 PM, William Prothero <
> proth...@earthednet.org> wrote:
> >
> > I’m getting an error when I try to build an iOS standalone. It is:
> > “Could not find a valid identity to use with the selected iOS
> profile.”
> >
> > Where should I look? I’ve downloaded a certificate and set the
> bundle  of the provisioning profile to org.earthednet.wWaterDetective, and
> it shows up in the Profile setting, and I set the internal App ID to
> org.earthednet.wWaterDetective.
> >
> > I’m in LC 8 DP 16, using Xcode 6.2.1.
> >
> > Very frustrating. It would be really wonderful if, sometime, there
> was a list of possible complaints the standalone builder would make, with
> possible solutions, or at least some diagnostic things one could do.
> >
> > Any suggestions would be 

Re: iOS deployment question

[Todd Fabacher]

Hello Bill,

Please please if you have any info on the steps of how to submit to  the
OSX Store. We are facing the same problems. I can find almost ZERO info on
what needs to be done to submit the app.

Thanks,

Todd

> On Mar 22, 2016, at 7:29 PM, William Prothero  earthednet.org> 
> wrote:
>
> I’m getting an error when I try to build an iOS standalone. It is:
> “Could not find a valid identity to use with the selected iOS profile.”
>
> Where should I look? I’ve downloaded a certificate and set the bundle  of the 
> provisioning profile to
org.earthednet.wWaterDetective, and it shows up in the Profile
setting, and I set the internal App ID to
org.earthednet.wWaterDetective.
>
> I’m in LC 8 DP 16, using Xcode 6.2.1.
>
> Very frustrating. It would be really wonderful if, sometime, there was a list 
> of possible complaints the
standalone builder would make, with possible solutions, or at least
some diagnostic things one could do.
>
> Any suggestions would be much appreciated.
>
> Best,
> Bill
>
> William Prothero, Ph.D.
> University of California, Santa Barbara, Emeritus
> prothero  earthednet.org
>
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Re: iOS deployment question

[William Prothero]

I’m wondering if there is a way to smooth out this error for the user.

When I try to load my app onto my iPhone for testing, I get the following 
message from XCode:

T"he entitlements specified in your application’s Code Signing Entitlements 
file do not match those specified in your provisioning profile. (0xE8008016).”

I’m wondering if there is a way for Livecode to provide more diagnostic 
information about the validity of the provisioning profile. The message above 
from XCode doesn’t give much help. 

Best,
Bill

> On Mar 23, 2016, at 7:35 AM, Earthednet-wp  wrote:
> 
> Graham,
> I can take some notes. What I did to fix it was to delete all my developer 
> certificates from my keychain and re-activate them. That was after I realized 
> that the reference to "identity" actually meant that it couldn't find a valid 
> certificate. Now it seems obvious, but didn't at first. I remember some 
> postings a while back re the need to get a new certificate. In the process, I 
> mucked up my entire keychain and had to recover it using the wonderful "Time 
> Machine". 
> 
> Now I'm fiddling with the provisioning profile to make its setup match with 
> the standalone settings for iOS. One thing I see as I fiddle, is multiple 
> provisioning profile in the drop down menu on iOS settings. Each new change 
> and download on the Apple dev site creates a new one and the name doesn't 
> change unless I do in in the apple developer website. Haven't figured out a 
> way to delete old ones yet, but that will come.
> 
> I'm just giving these details of my thought so that if somebody decides to 
> write up this, with all it's messiness, they might see what newbies go thru. 
> I'm not a newby anymore, but I only work with iOS occasionally and the 
> process seems to always be painful.
> 
> I'll take some notes and if they seem relevant, I'll post them somewhere.
> 
> Best,
> Bill
> 
> William Prothero
> http://es.earthednet.org
> 
>> On Mar 23, 2016, at 2:46 AM, Graham Samuel  wrote:
>> 
>> Care to write it up, William? 
>> 
>> AFAICS, coding in LiveCode is a trouble-free activity compared to deployment 
>> on iOS (or indeed on LiveCode Server, Android etc). Arcane rules, 
>> certificates, permissions… even the vocabulary seems to have been 
>> re-invented to confuse the honest programmer. Of course, that’s just my 
>> view, and I am not young. Still, it seems to me that one of the biggest 
>> challenges for LiveCode is to make the whole process, from having the idea 
>> for the app all the way to successfully publishing it, a journey with no 
>> u-turns, dead ends, or deep frustration at lack of progress.
>> 
>> Just my two eurocents
>> 
>> Graham
>> 
>>> On 23 Mar 2016, at 04:34, William Prothero  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Never mind…… Got it to work.
>>> Bill
>>> 
 On Mar 22, 2016, at 8:17 PM, William Prothero  
 wrote:
 
 I can see, after Googling around a bit, that getting the certificates 
 signed and set up correctly is quite complicated, with lots of ways of 
 going wrong. With out-dated certificates, old provisioning profiles, etc.
 
 I wonder if there is a way to make this more robust and transparent. Like 
 some app that will go through the settings, certificates, and provisioning 
 profiles and give a diagnostic. Or perhaps, could the Livecode diagnostics 
 give more information to help figure out what’s going wrong? This seems 
 like a real need to me.
 
 Maybe it’s too much to hope for. It takes me a day or two of hair-pulling 
 to get this set up after being away from making iOS apps for awhile. 
 
 Best,
 Bill
 
> On Mar 22, 2016, at 7:29 PM, William Prothero  
> wrote:
> 
> I’m getting an error when I try to build an iOS standalone. It is:
> “Could not find a valid identity to use with the selected iOS profile.”
> 
> Where should I look? I’ve downloaded a certificate and set the bundle  of 
> the provisioning profile to org.earthednet.wWaterDetective, and it shows 
> up in the Profile setting, and I set the internal App ID to 
> org.earthednet.wWaterDetective.
> 
> I’m in LC 8 DP 16, using Xcode 6.2.1. 
> 
> Very frustrating. It would be really wonderful if, sometime, there was a 
> list of possible complaints the standalone builder would make, with 
> possible solutions, or at least some diagnostic things one could do.
> 
> Any suggestions would be much appreciated.
> 
> Best,
> Bill
> 
> William Prothero, Ph.D.
> University of California, Santa Barbara, Emeritus
> proth...@earthednet.org
> 
> 
> 
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Re: Mobile Devices & xCode 7.3

[Matthias Rebbe]

Yesterday Peter TB Brett from LiveCode posted the following statement regarding 
xCode 7.3:

"Just to forestall the inevitable question: Xcode 7.3 support will be added in 
the following releases of LiveCode:

* 6.7.11 RC 1
* 7.1.4 RC 1
* 8.0.0 DP 17”


Matthias



> Am 23.03.2016 um 19:12 schrieb David Brooks  >:
> 
> Among the LiveCode preferences for Mobile Support we need to enter a path
> to the SDK. I had this working before with older xcode and X OS.
> 
> How do you do this with xCode 7.3 and the current version of El Capitan
> (10.11.4).
> 
> Thanks.
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Re: CEF glitches

[J. Landman Gay]

You could add your comments to this bug report:

http://quality.livecode.com/show_bug.cgi?id=17059

On 3/23/2016 8:05 AM, Terry Dennis wrote:

-- CEF glitches
-- Try this debug script in 7.x and 8.x
on mouseUp
put empty into tInstance
put empty into tInstances
put revBrowserOpenCef(the windowid of this stack, "about:blank") into 
tInstance
put revBrowserInstances() into tInstances
put tInstance & " - " & tInstances
breakpoint
-- Open Windows 10 Task Manager (Ctrl-Alt-Delete).  View = "Group By Type"
-- There are TWO instances of "revbrowser-cefprocess" in "Background 
Processes".
-- There should be ONE.
--
-- Now, exit LC  ("File, Exit" from LiveCode Menu bar, or "X" in upper 
right corner of LiveCode window)
-- There is an instance of "revbrowser-cefprocess" remaining in the Windows 
Task Manager background processes.
-- There should be ZERO.
--
-- There is also a phantom "LiveCode for Windows" background process.
-- There should be ZERO.
--
-- There is also a residual "debug.txt" file in testCEF.exe's  home 
directory after executing the Standalone app.
end mouseUp
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Mobile Devices & xCode 7.3

[David Brooks]

Among the LiveCode preferences for Mobile Support we need to enter a path
to the SDK. I had this working before with older xcode and X OS.

How do you do this with xCode 7.3 and the current version of El Capitan
(10.11.4).

Thanks.
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Re: will a data grid handle RTL text?

[Mark Waddingham]

On 2016-03-23 18:50, Phil Davis wrote:

The answer is yes, it "just works" with no special adjustments needed,
at least in DG forms. So I assume the same will be true in DG tables.


I had meant to reply to say that hopefully that would be the case the 
other day as the DG is based on fields... Thank Fraser for getting that 
little headache working!


Mark.

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Re: will a data grid handle RTL text?

[Phil Davis]

The answer is yes, it "just works" with no special adjustments needed, 
at least in DG forms. So I assume the same will be true in DG tables.


Thanks -
Phil



On 3/21/16 8:18 PM, Phil Davis wrote:

Like the subject says

I'm updating a desktop app in LC 7.x and will probably need to display 
Arabic (or other right-to-left) text in a data grid before long. I 
haven't tried it yet. Any predictions? Will it work?


I expect I'll ultimately need Arabic display in both tables and forms 
if that makes any difference.


Thanks -



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Socket Is Not Open

[Dan Friedman]

Greetings!

I have a client that is getting a "socket is not open" error when my windows 
(LC 7.0.1) application attempts to access the internet.  If they login to their 
computer using a standard login it's fine.  But, if they login to the computer 
using a domain, they get the "socket is not open" error.  Any thoughts?

Thanks in advance,
-Dan
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Re: Setting url of browser widget, incompatible characters

[Peter TB Brett]

On 23/03/2016 13:18, Tore Nilsen wrote:

Thank you this is very useful. As file names can also contain other
characters that may be changed during urlEncoding I will have to
experiment to take them into consideration as well. From what I can
see I will need to convert apostrophes, parenthesises and commas back
to their original characters.


As far as I know, all three of those _should_ be percent-encoded, as
required by RFC3986.

  Peter

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Re: iOS deployment question

[Earthednet-wp]

Graham,
I can take some notes. What I did to fix it was to delete all my developer 
certificates from my keychain and re-activate them. That was after I realized 
that the reference to "identity" actually meant that it couldn't find a valid 
certificate. Now it seems obvious, but didn't at first. I remember some 
postings a while back re the need to get a new certificate. In the process, I 
mucked up my entire keychain and had to recover it using the wonderful "Time 
Machine". 

Now I'm fiddling with the provisioning profile to make its setup match with the 
standalone settings for iOS. One thing I see as I fiddle, is multiple 
provisioning profile in the drop down menu on iOS settings. Each new change and 
download on the Apple dev site creates a new one and the name doesn't change 
unless I do in in the apple developer website. Haven't figured out a way to 
delete old ones yet, but that will come.

I'm just giving these details of my thought so that if somebody decides to 
write up this, with all it's messiness, they might see what newbies go thru. 
I'm not a newby anymore, but I only work with iOS occasionally and the process 
seems to always be painful.

I'll take some notes and if they seem relevant, I'll post them somewhere.

Best,
Bill

William Prothero
http://es.earthednet.org

> On Mar 23, 2016, at 2:46 AM, Graham Samuel  wrote:
> 
> Care to write it up, William? 
> 
> AFAICS, coding in LiveCode is a trouble-free activity compared to deployment 
> on iOS (or indeed on LiveCode Server, Android etc). Arcane rules, 
> certificates, permissions… even the vocabulary seems to have been re-invented 
> to confuse the honest programmer. Of course, that’s just my view, and I am 
> not young. Still, it seems to me that one of the biggest challenges for 
> LiveCode is to make the whole process, from having the idea for the app all 
> the way to successfully publishing it, a journey with no u-turns, dead ends, 
> or deep frustration at lack of progress.
> 
> Just my two eurocents
> 
> Graham
> 
>> On 23 Mar 2016, at 04:34, William Prothero  wrote:
>> 
>> Never mind…… Got it to work.
>> Bill
>> 
>>> On Mar 22, 2016, at 8:17 PM, William Prothero  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> I can see, after Googling around a bit, that getting the certificates 
>>> signed and set up correctly is quite complicated, with lots of ways of 
>>> going wrong. With out-dated certificates, old provisioning profiles, etc.
>>> 
>>> I wonder if there is a way to make this more robust and transparent. Like 
>>> some app that will go through the settings, certificates, and provisioning 
>>> profiles and give a diagnostic. Or perhaps, could the Livecode diagnostics 
>>> give more information to help figure out what’s going wrong? This seems 
>>> like a real need to me.
>>> 
>>> Maybe it’s too much to hope for. It takes me a day or two of hair-pulling 
>>> to get this set up after being away from making iOS apps for awhile. 
>>> 
>>> Best,
>>> Bill
>>> 
 On Mar 22, 2016, at 7:29 PM, William Prothero  
 wrote:
 
 I’m getting an error when I try to build an iOS standalone. It is:
 “Could not find a valid identity to use with the selected iOS profile.”
 
 Where should I look? I’ve downloaded a certificate and set the bundle  of 
 the provisioning profile to org.earthednet.wWaterDetective, and it shows 
 up in the Profile setting, and I set the internal App ID to 
 org.earthednet.wWaterDetective.
 
 I’m in LC 8 DP 16, using Xcode 6.2.1. 
 
 Very frustrating. It would be really wonderful if, sometime, there was a 
 list of possible complaints the standalone builder would make, with 
 possible solutions, or at least some diagnostic things one could do.
 
 Any suggestions would be much appreciated.
 
 Best,
 Bill
 
 William Prothero, Ph.D.
 University of California, Santa Barbara, Emeritus
 proth...@earthednet.org
 
 
 
 
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Re: LC8 DP16 oddities, dataGrid?

[Earthednet-wp]

Ali,
It was the lack of the columns inspector pane that I was referring to. Sorry 
for my posting being opaque.. No worries, I went back to v7 and changed it, 
then back to v8. 

I'm glad the column inspector is coming back in next release.
Thanks!
Bill

William Prothero
http://es.earthednet.org

> On Mar 23, 2016, at 2:28 AM, Ali Lloyd  wrote:
> 
> Hi Bill,
> 
> Could you be more specific? The dataGrid pane of the property inspector is
> just the bit that was in the Basic pane of the old property inspector under
> the
> Data Grid: ---
> section.
> 
> The Columns pane was missing and will be there in the next build
> (http://quality.livecode.com/show_bug.cgi?id=16748)
> 
> Ali
> 
> 
> On Tue, Mar 22, 2016 at 10:29 PM William Prothero 
> wrote:
> 
>> Folks:
>> I’ve been using DP16 for awhile, and find
>> 1: When setting the alignment of text in a text field, with the property
>> inspector, you have to click twice to get it to set the alignment. Minor,
>> but…
>> 
>> 2: Datagrid. The property inspector for the datagrid is now totally
>> opaque. The V7 version was much more obvious.
>> 
>> Are there any documents on how to use the new property inspector for
>> dataGrid?
>> 
>> Best,
>> Bill
>> 
>> William Prothero, Ph.D.
>> University of California, Santa Barbara, Emeritus
>> proth...@earthednet.org
>> 
>> 
>> 
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Re: Setting url of browser widget, incompatible characters

[Tore Nilsen]

Thank you this is very useful. As file names can also contain other characters 
that may be changed during urlEncoding I will have to experiment to take them 
into consideration as well. From what I can see I will need to convert 
apostrophes, parenthesises and commas back to their original characters. 


Tore


> 23. mar. 2016 kl. 14.11 skrev Trevor DeVore :
> 
> On Wed, Mar 23, 2016 at 8:30 AM, Tore Nilsen  wrote:
> 
>> It did not work. URLEncode also encodes “/“  to %2 and spaces to + as you
>> can see:
>> 
>> file://%2FUsers%2Ftorenilsen%2FDocuments%2FMultimedieLab%2FMusikk%2F01+My+My%2C+Hey+Hey+%28Out+of+the+Blue%29.m4p
>> 
> 
> This is a function I use to convert filenames into file urls.
> 
> /**
> * \brief Converts a LiveCode filename to a file url.
> *
> * \param pFilename The filename to convert.
> *
> * Each item of the filename will be escaped and "file://" will be prefixed.
> *
> * \return File url.
> */
> function fileConvertToFileURL pFilename
>   local theItem, i
> 
>   set the itemDelimiter to "/"
> 
>   repeat with i = 1 to the number of items of pFilename
>  put item i of pFilename into theItem
>  if i is 1 AND theItem contains ":" then next repeat # skip C:/
> 
>  put URLEncode(theItem) into theItem
>  replace "+" with "%20" in theItem
>  replace "*" with "%2A" in theItem
>  put theItem into item i of pFilename
>   end repeat
> 
>   # [case 1] Windows C:/ paths need to start with a "//"
>   # [case 2] If path starts with "//" then it is a network path. Add
>   # an extra "/" so that domain is considered localhost.
>   if char 1 of pFilename is not "/" then
>  put "/" before pFilename
>   else if pFilename begins with "//" then
>  delete char 1 to 2 of pFilename
>   end if
> 
>   return "file://" & pFilename
> end fileConvertToFileURL
> 
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Re: Setting url of browser widget, incompatible characters

[Trevor DeVore]

On Wed, Mar 23, 2016 at 8:30 AM, Tore Nilsen  wrote:

> It did not work. URLEncode also encodes “/“  to %2 and spaces to + as you
> can see:
>
> file://%2FUsers%2Ftorenilsen%2FDocuments%2FMultimedieLab%2FMusikk%2F01+My+My%2C+Hey+Hey+%28Out+of+the+Blue%29.m4p
>

This is a function I use to convert filenames into file urls.

/**
* \brief Converts a LiveCode filename to a file url.
*
* \param pFilename The filename to convert.
*
* Each item of the filename will be escaped and "file://" will be prefixed.
*
* \return File url.
*/
function fileConvertToFileURL pFilename
   local theItem, i

   set the itemDelimiter to "/"

   repeat with i = 1 to the number of items of pFilename
  put item i of pFilename into theItem
  if i is 1 AND theItem contains ":" then next repeat # skip C:/

  put URLEncode(theItem) into theItem
  replace "+" with "%20" in theItem
  replace "*" with "%2A" in theItem
  put theItem into item i of pFilename
   end repeat

   # [case 1] Windows C:/ paths need to start with a "//"
   # [case 2] If path starts with "//" then it is a network path. Add
   # an extra "/" so that domain is considered localhost.
   if char 1 of pFilename is not "/" then
  put "/" before pFilename
   else if pFilename begins with "//" then
  delete char 1 to 2 of pFilename
   end if

   return "file://" & pFilename
end fileConvertToFileURL

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CEF glitches

[Terry Dennis]

-- CEF glitches
-- Try this debug script in 7.x and 8.x 
on mouseUp
   put empty into tInstance
   put empty into tInstances
   put revBrowserOpenCef(the windowid of this stack, "about:blank") into 
tInstance
   put revBrowserInstances() into tInstances
   put tInstance & " - " & tInstances
   breakpoint
   -- Open Windows 10 Task Manager (Ctrl-Alt-Delete).  View = "Group By Type"
   -- There are TWO instances of "revbrowser-cefprocess" in "Background 
Processes".
   -- There should be ONE.
   --
   -- Now, exit LC  ("File, Exit" from LiveCode Menu bar, or "X" in upper right 
corner of LiveCode window)
   -- There is an instance of "revbrowser-cefprocess" remaining in the Windows 
Task Manager background processes. 
   -- There should be ZERO.
   --
   -- There is also a phantom "LiveCode for Windows" background process.
   -- There should be ZERO.
   --
   -- There is also a residual "debug.txt" file in testCEF.exe's  home 
directory after executing the Standalone app.
end mouseUp
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Re: Setting url of browser widget, incompatible characters

[Mark Waddingham]

On 2016-03-23 13:22, Peter TB Brett wrote:

You should use URLEncode().  For example:

on mouseUp
   answer file "Choose file"
   put "file://" & URLEncode(it) into tUrl
   put tUrl into field "url"
   set url of widget "browser" to tUrl
end mouseUp

I'm just in the process of updating the documentation for the browser
widget to make this clearer.

 Peter


Erg - see http://quality.livecode.com/show_bug.cgi?id=14015 and 
http://quality.livecode.com/show_bug.cgi?id=15369.


Perhaps we need a 'standardUrlEncode/Decode' function pair for now until 
we can fix the anomalies in a backwards-compatible fashion.


Mark.

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Re: Setting url of browser widget, incompatible characters

[Tore Nilsen]

I’ll try that. Thank you.

Tore

> 23. mar. 2016 kl. 13.22 skrev Peter TB Brett :
> 
> On 23/03/2016 12:11, Tore Nilsen wrote:
>> This would work unless the file name contained space characters. Changing 
>> the script to replace space characters with %20 would rectify this problem.
>> 
>> on mouseUp
>> 
>> answer file "Choose file"
>> 
>> put "file://"& it into tPath
>> 
>> repeat with i = 1 to the number of chars of tPath
>> 
>> if char i of tPath is space then
>> 
>> put "%20" into char i of tPath
>> 
>> end if
>> 
>> end repeat
>> 
>> put tPath into field "url"
>> 
>> set url of widget "browser" to tPath
>> 
>> end mouseUp
> 
> Hi Tore,
> 
> You should use URLEncode().  For example:
> 
>on mouseUp
>   answer file "Choose file"
>   put "file://" & URLEncode(it) into tUrl
>   put tUrl into field "url"
>   set url of widget "browser" to tUrl
>end mouseUp
> 
> I'm just in the process of updating the documentation for the browser widget 
> to make this clearer.
> 
> Peter
> 
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> 
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Re: Setting url of browser widget, incompatible characters

[Peter TB Brett]

On 23/03/2016 12:11, Tore Nilsen wrote:

This would work unless the file name contained space characters. Changing the 
script to replace space characters with %20 would rectify this problem.

on mouseUp

answer file "Choose file"

put "file://"& it into tPath

repeat with i = 1 to the number of chars of tPath

if char i of tPath is space then

put "%20" into char i of tPath

end if

end repeat

put tPath into field "url"

set url of widget "browser" to tPath

end mouseUp


Hi Tore,

You should use URLEncode().  For example:

on mouseUp
   answer file "Choose file"
   put "file://" & URLEncode(it) into tUrl
   put tUrl into field "url"
   set url of widget "browser" to tUrl
end mouseUp

I'm just in the process of updating the documentation for the browser 
widget to make this clearer.


 Peter

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Setting url of browser widget, incompatible characters

[Tore Nilsen]

I have been working with the browser widget this morning, trying to use it to 
show/play media files, and I have come across some oddities with some 
characters  in file names being incompatible with the widget. The script I 
originally used use is as follows:

on mouseUp

answer file "Choose file"

put "file://"& it into tPath

put tPath into field "url"

set url of widget "browser" to tPath

end mouseUp


This would work unless the file name contained space characters. Changing the 
script to replace space characters with %20 would rectify this problem. 

on mouseUp

answer file "Choose file"

put "file://"& it into tPath

repeat with i = 1 to the number of chars of tPath

if char i of tPath is space then

put "%20" into char i of tPath

end if

end repeat

put tPath into field "url"

set url of widget "browser" to tPath

end mouseUp


However, in some instances, a space character between two words would not be 
recognised as such. I tried to delete only the original space character in 
Finder, and add it again, but it would still not be recognised. Only when I 
wrote the file name from scratch, space characters and all, would the space 
character be recognised and the url would be set. 

Here are some urls that do not work:
file:///Users/torenilsen/Documents/MultimedieLab/Musikk/01%20My%20My,%20Hey%20Hey%20(Out%20of%20the
 Blue).m4p

file:///Users/torenilsen/Documents/MultimedieLab/Musikk/05%20The%20Piano%20Has%20Been%20Drinking%20(Not
 Me).m4a

file:///Users/torenilsen/Documents/MultimedieLab/Musikk/07%20Hearts%20and%20Bones%20(Live%20In%20New%20York
 2011).m4p

file:///Users/torenilsen/Documents/MultimedieLab/Musikk/12%20Blues%20Can't%20Even%20Find
 Me.m4a


As one can see, the last space character is not replaced. All of these examples 
contains either apostrophes or parenthesises. Removing these characters from 
the file name does not help either. In order to have these urls working, the 
file name has to be retyped in Finder. Have anyone else come across this. I am 
using LC 8 dp 16 and OS X 10.11.4 (beta).

Regard
Tore Nilsen
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Re: iOS deployment question

[Graham Samuel]

Care to write it up, William? 

AFAICS, coding in LiveCode is a trouble-free activity compared to deployment on 
iOS (or indeed on LiveCode Server, Android etc). Arcane rules, certificates, 
permissions… even the vocabulary seems to have been re-invented to confuse the 
honest programmer. Of course, that’s just my view, and I am not young. Still, 
it seems to me that one of the biggest challenges for LiveCode is to make the 
whole process, from having the idea for the app all the way to successfully 
publishing it, a journey with no u-turns, dead ends, or deep frustration at 
lack of progress.

Just my two eurocents

Graham

> On 23 Mar 2016, at 04:34, William Prothero  wrote:
> 
> Never mind…… Got it to work.
> Bill
> 
>> On Mar 22, 2016, at 8:17 PM, William Prothero  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> I can see, after Googling around a bit, that getting the certificates signed 
>> and set up correctly is quite complicated, with lots of ways of going wrong. 
>> With out-dated certificates, old provisioning profiles, etc.
>> 
>> I wonder if there is a way to make this more robust and transparent. Like 
>> some app that will go through the settings, certificates, and provisioning 
>> profiles and give a diagnostic. Or perhaps, could the Livecode diagnostics 
>> give more information to help figure out what’s going wrong? This seems like 
>> a real need to me.
>> 
>> Maybe it’s too much to hope for. It takes me a day or two of hair-pulling to 
>> get this set up after being away from making iOS apps for awhile. 
>> 
>> Best,
>> Bill
>> 
>>> On Mar 22, 2016, at 7:29 PM, William Prothero  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> I’m getting an error when I try to build an iOS standalone. It is:
>>> “Could not find a valid identity to use with the selected iOS profile.”
>>> 
>>> Where should I look? I’ve downloaded a certificate and set the bundle  of 
>>> the provisioning profile to org.earthednet.wWaterDetective, and it shows up 
>>> in the Profile setting, and I set the internal App ID to 
>>> org.earthednet.wWaterDetective.
>>> 
>>> I’m in LC 8 DP 16, using Xcode 6.2.1. 
>>> 
>>> Very frustrating. It would be really wonderful if, sometime, there was a 
>>> list of possible complaints the standalone builder would make, with 
>>> possible solutions, or at least some diagnostic things one could do.
>>> 
>>> Any suggestions would be much appreciated.
>>> 
>>> Best,
>>> Bill
>>> 
>>> William Prothero, Ph.D.
>>> University of California, Santa Barbara, Emeritus
>>> proth...@earthednet.org
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
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Re: LC8 DP16 oddities, dataGrid?

[Ali Lloyd]

Hi Bill,

Could you be more specific? The dataGrid pane of the property inspector is
just the bit that was in the Basic pane of the old property inspector under
the
Data Grid: ---
section.

The Columns pane was missing and will be there in the next build
(http://quality.livecode.com/show_bug.cgi?id=16748)

Ali


On Tue, Mar 22, 2016 at 10:29 PM William Prothero 
wrote:

> Folks:
> I’ve been using DP16 for awhile, and find
> 1: When setting the alignment of text in a text field, with the property
> inspector, you have to click twice to get it to set the alignment. Minor,
> but…
>
> 2: Datagrid. The property inspector for the datagrid is now totally
> opaque. The V7 version was much more obvious.
>
> Are there any documents on how to use the new property inspector for
> dataGrid?
>
> Best,
> Bill
>
> William Prothero, Ph.D.
> University of California, Santa Barbara, Emeritus
> proth...@earthednet.org
>
>
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Re: Speaking of package managers...

[Monte Goulding]

Yes but I wasn't referring to this case in particular. Let's say something has 
been put out as open source but actually infringes on someone's copyright. 
Allowing people to replace it after a takedown is unhelpful. Either way here's 
hoping we end up with hundreds of thousands of packages so we can worry about 
this stuff :-)

Sent from my iPhone

> On 23 Mar 2016, at 5:52 PM, Mark Wieder  wrote:
> 
>> On 03/22/2016 11:00 PM, Monte Goulding wrote:
>> 
>>> On 23 Mar 2016, at 4:39 PM, Mark Wieder  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Well, yes, but this seems like an npm registry problem. If you're going to 
>>> allow something silly like "unpublish" after something's already out in the 
>>> wild, and then not allow republishing the same version, then that's just 
>>> asking for trouble.
>> 
>> 
>> I suspect there would need to be some kind of takedown procedure. None of us 
>> need LiveCode Ltd. to be on the hook for someone’s copyright infringement.
> 
> Well, first of all, there's nothing in this about copyright infringment. The 
> takedown request was about a trademarked name, and that's a pretty ridiculous 
> charge (IANAL) since there's no possible confusion between the two packages.
> 
> Secondly, the part I'm railing about is the "unpublish" mechanism in 
> particular... in an open source world, it should be possible to replace a 
> package with a different package. Allowing a developer to remove a package 
> from a public repository *and* expressly forbidding its replacement is dumb 
> and shortsighted. There. I've said it.
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Re: Open 2 Cards in same stack side by side

[Sannyasin Brahmanathaswami]

Great idea, since, yes, many instances do not require interaction with the 
elements of the other card. You just want to see it. and now with the Project 
browser, you *can* go and touch the props of the "other card" easily and then 
it would be a simple matter to update the snap shot... very cool.

I think one of our elder xTalkres in Texas  (no longer active with LC, forgot 
his name) had something like that years ago, where he was offer a  preview of 
cards that actually responded to mouse clicks.


On March 20, 2016 at 6:21:51 AM, RM 
(richmondmathew...@gmail.com) wrote:

> answer file "Select a stack file:"
> import snapshot from the long id of cd 1 of it
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Re: Speaking of package managers...

[Mark Wieder]

On 03/22/2016 11:00 PM, Monte Goulding wrote:



On 23 Mar 2016, at 4:39 PM, Mark Wieder  wrote:

Well, yes, but this seems like an npm registry problem. If you're going to allow 
something silly like "unpublish" after something's already out in the wild, and 
then not allow republishing the same version, then that's just asking for trouble.



I suspect there would need to be some kind of takedown procedure. None of us 
need LiveCode Ltd. to be on the hook for someone’s copyright infringement.


Well, first of all, there's nothing in this about copyright infringment. 
The takedown request was about a trademarked name, and that's a pretty 
ridiculous charge (IANAL) since there's no possible confusion between 
the two packages.


Secondly, the part I'm railing about is the "unpublish" mechanism in 
particular... in an open source world, it should be possible to replace 
a package with a different package. Allowing a developer to remove a 
package from a public repository *and* expressly forbidding its 
replacement is dumb and shortsighted. There. I've said it.


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Re: Speaking of package managers...

[Monte Goulding]

> On 23 Mar 2016, at 4:39 PM, Mark Wieder  wrote:
> 
> Well, yes, but this seems like an npm registry problem. If you're going to 
> allow something silly like "unpublish" after something's already out in the 
> wild, and then not allow republishing the same version, then that's just 
> asking for trouble.


I suspect there would need to be some kind of takedown procedure. None of us 
need LiveCode Ltd. to be on the hook for someone’s copyright infringement.

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