Re: LC8 DP16

[William Prothero]

Kay,
Tnx for trying this out. My stacks were more complex and I was trying to 
convert a stack that used mobGUI elements and I couldn’t get rid of them. Then 
I was trying to copy code from one stack to another and the IDE appeared to get 
confused.

I’ll fiddle with it more and see if I can come up with a prescription,

Best,
Bill

> On Mar 24, 2016, at 8:13 PM, Kay C Lan  wrote:
> 
> On Fri, Mar 25, 2016 at 4:41 AM, William Prothero
>  wrote:
>> If you have two stacks open, then try to create a new card in the stack in 
>> the front, it creates doesn’t create a card in the selected stack. It 
>> appears at the top of the Project Browser, on a line by itself or in the 
>> other stack.
>> 
> Not seeing that on OS x 10.9.5 LC8dp16
> 
> I just started LC 8
> New stack - named it Test Stack 1
> New stack - named it Test Stack 2
> Opened the Object Browser
> Named Card 1 of Test Stack 1 'ts1cd1'
> Named Card 2 of Test Stack 2 'ts2cd1'
> Opened the Project Browser
> Clicked on the Project Browser and each stack so that it would show
> the tree view with each card.
> With Test Stack 2 front most I created a New Card. It popped up in the
> Project Browser in the correct place. I named it 'ts2cd2'
> Bought Test Stack 1 to the front then New Card. It also popped up in
> the Project Browser in the correct place.
> 
> HTH
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Re: LC8 DP16

[William Prothero]

Kay,
Tnx for trying this out. My stacks were more complex and I was trying to 
convert a stack that used mobGUI elements and I couldn’t get rid of them. Then 
I was trying to copy code from one stack to another and the IDE appeared to get 
confused.

I’ll fiddle with it more and see if I can come up with a prescription,

Best,
Bill

> On Mar 24, 2016, at 8:13 PM, Kay C Lan  wrote:
> 
> On Fri, Mar 25, 2016 at 4:41 AM, William Prothero
>  wrote:
>> If you have two stacks open, then try to create a new card in the stack in 
>> the front, it creates doesn’t create a card in the selected stack. It 
>> appears at the top of the Project Browser, on a line by itself or in the 
>> other stack.
>> 
> Not seeing that on OS x 10.9.5 LC8dp16
> 
> I just started LC 8
> New stack - named it Test Stack 1
> New stack - named it Test Stack 2
> Opened the Object Browser
> Named Card 1 of Test Stack 1 'ts1cd1'
> Named Card 2 of Test Stack 2 'ts2cd1'
> Opened the Project Browser
> Clicked on the Project Browser and each stack so that it would show
> the tree view with each card.
> With Test Stack 2 front most I created a New Card. It popped up in the
> Project Browser in the correct place. I named it 'ts2cd2'
> Bought Test Stack 1 to the front then New Card. It also popped up in
> the Project Browser in the correct place.
> 
> HTH
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Shorter Vibration?

[Scott Rossi]

I don't suppose it's possible to change the duration of mobileVibrate?

When using this command (on my Android phone) the interval seems to be
somewhere between 3/4 and a full second which is way too long for UI
feedback.  I'd like to trigger an extremely short vibration as feedback
when a button is pressed, similar to how many onscreen keyboards operate.

Any way to accomplish this?

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Re: LC8 DP16

[Kay C Lan]

On Fri, Mar 25, 2016 at 4:41 AM, William Prothero
 wrote:
>If you have two stacks open, then try to create a new card in the stack in the 
>front, it creates doesn’t create a card in the selected stack. It appears at 
>the top of the Project Browser, on a line by itself or in the other stack.
>
Not seeing that on OS x 10.9.5 LC8dp16

I just started LC 8
New stack - named it Test Stack 1
New stack - named it Test Stack 2
Opened the Object Browser
Named Card 1 of Test Stack 1 'ts1cd1'
Named Card 2 of Test Stack 2 'ts2cd1'
Opened the Project Browser
Clicked on the Project Browser and each stack so that it would show
the tree view with each card.
With Test Stack 2 front most I created a New Card. It popped up in the
Project Browser in the correct place. I named it 'ts2cd2'
Bought Test Stack 1 to the front then New Card. It also popped up in
the Project Browser in the correct place.

HTH

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Re: Looking for parser for Email (MIME)

[Kay C Lan]

On Thu, Mar 24, 2016 at 6:03 PM, Roland Huettmann
> I find it VERY convenient since the actual file creation
> date is not of importance. The content of the file is important. For
> example, a Word document has a date of the Content (a letter for example,
> or a contract). Why should this not be reflected in a *persistent* date of
> the file itself?

I don't understand. The detailed files gives you:

creation date & time
last modified date & time
last accessed date & time
last back up date & time

You start writing email and send it today. It's date (forgetting time)
is the same as the creation and modification date.

You start writing a contract today and finish it tomorrow. It's date
is the same as it's last modified date.

You can read any of those files multiple times at any later date and
it doesn't change their creation or last modified dates.

In you go back into the contract and modify it at a later day, then
the amended contract should be re-dated and it should match the last
modified date.

To create a document today, and in it's content date it last week (or
next week) and then use a program to change it's electronic creation
date to match; or to go into a completed contract a some much later
date, and modify it and then use a program to electronically back date
it's modification date all seems fraudulent to me.

If there is some other date that is extremely important to the file
then surely this would be dealt with using a sensible storing and
naming convention. i.e. if you were writing someone's biography you
might  have folders for each year and name the files with a prefix
mmdd month and day format to sort them chronologically. For contracts,
after a contract is signed it's scanned so this scanned document could
be named 'ACME contract signed mmdd'

All relevant dates are then easily accessible via the files creation
date, modification date and full path name.

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Re: Problem updating to Version 8 (DP16)

[Jim Byrnes]

On 03/24/2016 05:21 PM, Peter TB Brett wrote:

On 24/03/2016 20:43, Jim Byrnes wrote:

I have version 8 (DP 14) installed on my laptop running Ubuntu 14.04.

When I opened the start center there were a couple of buttons visible.
One referred to version 7.xx and the other was an upgrade to DP 16. I
clicked on the DP 16 button a download progress bar appeared. I must
have lost my internet connection because when I checked back the
progress bar was gone but Livecode was not upgraded to DP 16.

Closing and restarting the Start Center did not offer the upgrade
anymore and even Help-->check for upgrades did nothing.

Could someone tell me how to get upgrades to work again?


Hi Jim,

We have found that there are some editions for which the autoupdater
will not work.  This was due to an error in the autoupdater's HTTPS
support.

When upgrading from those editions, it's necessary to manually download
the update.

If you're having difficulty with the "Check for updates" feature I do
recommend downloading the installer for the version you're trying to
update to from https://downloads.livecode.com/livecode

Peter



Peter,

That worked. I now have DP 16 installed and running next to DP 14. Just 
in case I missed it, is there a way to have the installer update the 
installed version?


Thanks,  Jim


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losing groups while editing them when stack saves?

[Dr. Hawkins]

Do to losing large amounts of work at times, I have routines set up that
auto-save stacks.

I think, though, that I've noticed an issue--from time to time, I've lost
groups from cards.  Can it be that, as the group doesn't exist to the
engine while editing, that if the underlying stack is saved, it is saved
without the group in question?

And if so, is there some way to mark the stack dirty upon editing a group,
or to catch the edit group ?

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Re: Problem updating to Version 8 (DP16)

[Peter TB Brett]

On 24/03/2016 20:43, Jim Byrnes wrote:

I have version 8 (DP 14) installed on my laptop running Ubuntu 14.04.

When I opened the start center there were a couple of buttons visible.
One referred to version 7.xx and the other was an upgrade to DP 16. I
clicked on the DP 16 button a download progress bar appeared. I must
have lost my internet connection because when I checked back the
progress bar was gone but Livecode was not upgraded to DP 16.

Closing and restarting the Start Center did not offer the upgrade
anymore and even Help-->check for upgrades did nothing.

Could someone tell me how to get upgrades to work again?


Hi Jim,

We have found that there are some editions for which the autoupdater 
will not work.  This was due to an error in the autoupdater's HTTPS support.


When upgrading from those editions, it's necessary to manually download 
the update.


If you're having difficulty with the "Check for updates" feature I do 
recommend downloading the installer for the version you're trying to 
update to from https://downloads.livecode.com/livecode


   Peter

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Problem updating to Version 8 (DP16)

[Jim Byrnes]

I have version 8 (DP 14) installed on my laptop running Ubuntu 14.04.

When I opened the start center there were a couple of buttons visible. 
One referred to version 7.xx and the other was an upgrade to DP 16. I 
clicked on the DP 16 button a download progress bar appeared. I must 
have lost my internet connection because when I checked back the 
progress bar was gone but Livecode was not upgraded to DP 16.


Closing and restarting the Start Center did not offer the upgrade 
anymore and even Help-->check for upgrades did nothing.


Could someone tell me how to get upgrades to work again?

Thanks,  Jim


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LC8 DP16

[William Prothero]

Folks:
I’m noticing a problem with the Project Browser in DP16. If you have two stacks 
open, then try to create a new card in the stack in the front, it creates 
doesn’t create a card in the selected stack. It appears at the top of the 
Project Browser, on a line by itself or in the other stack.

Closing the other stack (the one that you are not putting the new card on), 
doesn’t help. The card listing goes to the top of the project browser window.

Anybody else see this oddity? I’m trying hard to convert over to LC8, but some 
of these oddities are a bit troublesome. 

Best,
Bill



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Re: [Blog] Script Only Stacks

[Dave Kilroy]

This is a follow up to the issue of bad line endings when working on a
scriptOnlyStack in Atom. 

Just to note that once I used a ".livecodescript" file extension rather than
".livecode" that I was once again able to use Atom as it's editor without
LiveCode objecting to the line endings...



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Re: Socket Is Not Open

[Mike Bonner]

You might ask the network admin if the domain controller sets a proxy
server.  If so, you might try setting the httpProxy to the correct values
and see if that helps.  Look at httpproxy in the dictionary.

On Thu, Mar 24, 2016 at 10:29 AM, Richard Gaskin  wrote:

> Dan Friedman wrote:
> > I have a client that is getting a "socket is not open" error when my
> > windows (LC 7.0.1) application attempts to access the internet.  If
> > they login to their computer using a standard login it's fine.  But,
> > if they login to the computer using a domain, they get the "socket is
> > not open" error.  Any thoughts?
>
> What is "standard login" in this context?
>
> And by "domain" do you mean LAN network segment or domain name?
>
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Re: Socket Is Not Open

[Richard Gaskin]

Dan Friedman wrote:
> I have a client that is getting a "socket is not open" error when my
> windows (LC 7.0.1) application attempts to access the internet.  If
> they login to their computer using a standard login it's fine.  But,
> if they login to the computer using a domain, they get the "socket is
> not open" error.  Any thoughts?

What is "standard login" in this context?

And by "domain" do you mean LAN network segment or domain name?

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Re: Can a widget be in the background?

[Earthednet-wp]

I guess I'd have to call myself a moderately experienced user, but still 
learning. The way I found out about how to set a group as a background was 
through the nice dp16 tutorial. But then, the next time I tried to make a 
background control, I had forgotten. I went back through the tutorial and saw 
how to do it. But since I was working with an existing stack, I didn't know how 
to get it placed on other cards. Thanks to the generous comment of Scott, I got 
it. 

There will always be a need for a list like this. There will also be a need for 
some overview materials that are a bit longer than dictionary entries, that 
briefly explain how to do specific operations. The lessons on the livecode site 
are very good at that, but sometimes not advanced enough.

I really appreciate the help and patience of experts and non-experts on this 
list. 
Thanks, all,
Bill

William Prothero
http://es.earthednet.org

> On Mar 24, 2016, at 6:46 AM, Roland Huettmann  
> wrote:
> 
> Well, it is true, but not too transparent to new users, and even some more
> experienced users need to really study first.
> 
> I was thinking that in edit mode and without having to check the Property
> Inspector there could be a visual hint about a groups behaviour (background
> icon or color). A tool tip in edit mode could also supply information with
> how many cards this background group is shared with.
> 
> The question is how to make this sharing more intuitive and obvious to new
> users for groups of one or more controls.
> 
>> On 24 March 2016 at 08:39, Tore Nilsen  wrote:
>> 
>> A group with the background behaviour will appear on each new card you
>> create after you have made the group. If you know you are going to need a
>> background on many cards, then make the background group on the first card,
>> before you add the rest of the cards.
>> 
>> Tore
>>> 24. mar. 2016 kl. 06.02 skrev Earthednet-wp :
>>> 
>>> Scott,
>>> Thanks! You are the man!
>>> Best,
>>> Bill
>>> 
>>> William Prothero
>>> http://es.earthednet.org
>>> 
 On Mar 23, 2016, at 8:30 PM, Scott Rossi 
>> wrote:
 
 Use "Place Group" under the Object menu to place the group on any card
 that doesn't already have it.  If you copy and paste, you'll wind up
>> with
 multiple copies of the group, instead of one group shared across
>> multiple
 cards.
 
 Regards,
 
 Scott Rossi
 Creative Director
 Tactile Media, UX/UI Design
 
 
 
 
 On 3/23/16, 8:06 PM, "use-livecode on behalf of William Prothero"
 >>> proth...@earthednet.org> wrote:
 
> Please excuse me for the trivial questions. I found that a group can
>> be a
> shared background object.
> But, I¹m wondering if for a stack with quite a few cards, a new group
> with a shared background setting will only appear on new cards.
> 
> If I create a new stack with several cards, load several UI elements on
> the first card, group them, then set them to ³Background Behavior²,
>> they
> do not show up on all of the existing cards.
> 
> So, is there a way to make that background group then show up on all
> cards? Or, is it simply a matter of copying that group to each card
>> that
> I want it on and setting ³Shared behavior² in the inspector?
> 
> Best,
> Bill
> 
>> On Mar 23, 2016, at 4:37 PM, William Prothero <
>> proth...@earthednet.org>
>> wrote:
>> 
>> I¹m about the replace a menubar with the menubar widget in DP16. What
>> I¹m wondering is if this can be set up so it¹s on every card, like
>> objects can.
>> 
>> Best,
>> Bill
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> William Prothero, Ph.D.
>> University of California, Santa Barbara, Emeritus
>> proth...@earthednet.org
>> 
>> 
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Re: Can a widget be in the background?

[Roland Huettmann]

Well, it is true, but not too transparent to new users, and even some more
experienced users need to really study first.

I was thinking that in edit mode and without having to check the Property
Inspector there could be a visual hint about a groups behaviour (background
icon or color). A tool tip in edit mode could also supply information with
how many cards this background group is shared with.

The question is how to make this sharing more intuitive and obvious to new
users for groups of one or more controls.

On 24 March 2016 at 08:39, Tore Nilsen  wrote:

> A group with the background behaviour will appear on each new card you
> create after you have made the group. If you know you are going to need a
> background on many cards, then make the background group on the first card,
> before you add the rest of the cards.
>
> Tore
> > 24. mar. 2016 kl. 06.02 skrev Earthednet-wp :
> >
> > Scott,
> > Thanks! You are the man!
> > Best,
> > Bill
> >
> > William Prothero
> > http://es.earthednet.org
> >
> >> On Mar 23, 2016, at 8:30 PM, Scott Rossi 
> wrote:
> >>
> >> Use "Place Group" under the Object menu to place the group on any card
> >> that doesn't already have it.  If you copy and paste, you'll wind up
> with
> >> multiple copies of the group, instead of one group shared across
> multiple
> >> cards.
> >>
> >> Regards,
> >>
> >> Scott Rossi
> >> Creative Director
> >> Tactile Media, UX/UI Design
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> On 3/23/16, 8:06 PM, "use-livecode on behalf of William Prothero"
> >>  >> proth...@earthednet.org> wrote:
> >>
> >>> Please excuse me for the trivial questions. I found that a group can
> be a
> >>> shared background object.
> >>> But, I¹m wondering if for a stack with quite a few cards, a new group
> >>> with a shared background setting will only appear on new cards.
> >>>
> >>> If I create a new stack with several cards, load several UI elements on
> >>> the first card, group them, then set them to ³Background Behavior²,
> they
> >>> do not show up on all of the existing cards.
> >>>
> >>> So, is there a way to make that background group then show up on all
> >>> cards? Or, is it simply a matter of copying that group to each card
> that
> >>> I want it on and setting ³Shared behavior² in the inspector?
> >>>
> >>> Best,
> >>> Bill
> >>>
>  On Mar 23, 2016, at 4:37 PM, William Prothero <
> proth...@earthednet.org>
>  wrote:
> 
>  I¹m about the replace a menubar with the menubar widget in DP16. What
>  I¹m wondering is if this can be set up so it¹s on every card, like
>  objects can.
> 
>  Best,
>  Bill
> 
> 
> 
>  William Prothero, Ph.D.
>  University of California, Santa Barbara, Emeritus
>  proth...@earthednet.org
> 
> 
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Re: [ANN] "language-livecode" 0.6.0 for Atom Editor

[Peter TB Brett]

On 24/03/2016 12:35, Mike Kerner wrote:

Did we ever get folding to work in atom?  I tried it, again, yesterday, but
it doesn't seem to work for scripts.



I don't think we've quite got the right syntax definitions in for 
enabling code folding.  Would be definitely interested in merging the 
changes needed to make that work.


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Re: [ANN] "language-livecode" 0.6.0 for Atom Editor

[Mike Kerner]

Did we ever get folding to work in atom?  I tried it, again, yesterday, but
it doesn't seem to work for scripts.

On Thu, Mar 24, 2016 at 5:37 AM, -hh  wrote:

> Was pretty clear after that.
>
>
> Peter TB Brett wrote
> >  [ANN] "language-livecode" 0.6.0 for Atom Editor
> > Oct 20, 2015; 3:58pm — by Peter TB Brett
> > Hi all,
> >
> > == Atom language-livecode package 0.6.0 ==
> >
> > The "language-livecode" package for the Atom editor (https://atom.io/)
> > provides syntax highlighting and indentation support for editing
> > LiveCode Builder (.lcb), LiveCode Script (.livecodescript), and LiveCode
> > Server (.lc / .irev) source files.
> >
> > == Installation
> >
> > Install the "language-livecode" package from the Atom user interface.
> >
> > == Notable changes in 0.6.0
> >
> > * LiveCode Script grammar and snippets generated from documentation
> > * Support for script-only stacks (`.livecodescript`)
> > * Linting & syntax checking for LiveCode Script files
> > * Initial linting support for LiveCode Builder source files
> >
> > == Reporting issues
> >
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Re: [ANN] "language-livecode" 0.6.0 for Atom Editor

[-hh]

Was pretty clear after that.


Peter TB Brett wrote
>  [ANN] "language-livecode" 0.6.0 for Atom Editor
> Oct 20, 2015; 3:58pm — by Peter TB Brett
> Hi all,
> 
> == Atom language-livecode package 0.6.0 ==
> 
> The "language-livecode" package for the Atom editor (https://atom.io/) 
> provides syntax highlighting and indentation support for editing 
> LiveCode Builder (.lcb), LiveCode Script (.livecodescript), and LiveCode 
> Server (.lc / .irev) source files.
> 
> == Installation
> 
> Install the "language-livecode" package from the Atom user interface.
> 
> == Notable changes in 0.6.0
> 
> * LiveCode Script grammar and snippets generated from documentation
> * Support for script-only stacks (`.livecodescript`)
> * Linting & syntax checking for LiveCode Script files
> * Initial linting support for LiveCode Builder source files
> 
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Re: Looking for parser for Email (MIME)

[Roland Huettmann]

Kay wrote: >You can't be using LC8dp15 or greater because all I have to do
is type
>in 'detaile' and the list of hits is reduced to 3 with the one you are
>looking for quite visible. If I type 'detailed fi' there is only one
>hit and it's clearly the one you want:

You are absolutely right regarding Dictionary. I was looking in the
dictionary of the 7.x version, switching versions between 7.x and 8.0.0 dp
16 while using 8 dp16 for scripting. Files are still opened automatically
in 7 on my system as I think (maybe wrongly) that last version 7 is more
stable.

It is much better in 8.0.0 dp15/16! Just have to get used to this new
Dictionary.

---

--- Reading File Properties ("the detaile files")

It may be easier to move the file into just one default folder. Agreed. But
then for general purpose you must enforce it, otherwise it could fail.
Still I believe it is better to be able to point at just one single file
(for example: "the detailed file" instead of "the detailed files").

--- OFF TOPIC: Writing File Properties:

What I also did was changing file properties such as creation date and time
using a separate Windows command line program and calling it through the
Shell command. I find it VERY convenient since the actual file creation
date is not of importance. The content of the file is important. For
example, a Word document has a date of the Content (a letter for example,
or a contract). Why should this not be reflected in a *persistent* date of
the file itself? Then it is easy to sort and filter files by dates which
are meaningful. (Here users are not interested in the date when the
physical file was created, but in the date of the document itself.) Maybe
it will be possible to implement this using LCB for all platforms?

Roland





On 24 March 2016 at 02:58, Kay C Lan  wrote:

> On Tue, Mar 22, 2016 at 11:33 PM, Roland Huettmann
>  wrote:
> >
> > I was searching for "file", "detailed file", "detailed files".
>
> You can't be using LC8dp15 or greater because all I have to do is type
> in 'detaile' and the list of hits is reduced to 3 with the one you are
> looking for quite visible. If I type 'detailed fi' there is only one
> hit and it's clearly the one you want:
>
> the [{ detailed | long }] files
>
> Since dp15 the Dictionary has been very much improved. Even when
> working in LC 6 or 7 I keep LC 8 open so I can use it's Dictionary
> because it's search feature is better.
> >
> > Anyway, I would appreciate a function giving the same pointing at just
> one
> > selected file (not files). I will use my custom function doing that.
>
> I generally find it a lot easier just to move the files I wish to work
> on into a single folder, then declare that the defaultFolder. If there
> is only one file in there then 'the detailed files' will report on the
> one file. Alternatively you can always:
>
> put shell("ls -l /hardDrive/User/Folder/FileToWorkOn.mbox") into tFileInfo
>
> Look up 'shell' in the LC Dictionary for it's description
>
> Use your favourite man page reader to look up all of the options for
> the ls shell command
>
> HTH
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Re: Anyone Using Atom for LC Script Editing

[Peter TB Brett]

On 24/03/2016 09:50, Matthias Rebbe wrote:

It was meant as a suggestion not as criticism.
Just forget it and leave as it is.


It's okay, I fixed it.  This is probably clearer anyway.

https://github.com/peter-b/atom-language-livecode/commit/9654e147bf3b9061446df9509b30926ce71d0c86

Thank you for suggesting the improvement.

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Re: Anyone Using Atom for LC Script Editing

[Matthias Rebbe]

It was meant as a suggestion not as criticism.
Just forget it and leave as it is. 


> Am 24.03.2016 um 10:46 schrieb Peter TB Brett :
> 
> 
> 
> On 24/03/2016 09:39, Matthias Rebbe wrote:
>> 
>> I was referring to the APM installation itself. If a system does not
>> have APM installed and the user is new to Atom and wants to use the
>> APM method, it might be easier to know that using the “Install Shell
>> Commands” menu in Atom will install APM.
>> 
>> A general note like  “If your system does not have APM installed,
>> then you can  install it using the menu entry ‘Install Shell
>> Commands’ unter the Atom menu“ or something similar would be
>> helpful.
>> 
> 
> I am very confused.
> 
> apm is mentioned exactly once in the language-livecode docs, as something 
> that is a completely optional alternative to people who are command-line 
> addicts.
> 
> The _very next line_ contains a link to the Atom documentation that explains, 
> _in detail_ how to install packages and, indeed, apm.
> 
> I don't think any more info is required here.  If you think it's so 
> confusing, I'll just delete the mention of apm entirely.
> 
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Re: Anyone Using Atom for LC Script Editing

[Peter TB Brett]

On 24/03/2016 09:39, Matthias Rebbe wrote:


I was referring to the APM installation itself. If a system does not
have APM installed and the user is new to Atom and wants to use the
APM method, it might be easier to know that using the “Install Shell
Commands” menu in Atom will install APM.

A general note like  “If your system does not have APM installed,
then you can  install it using the menu entry ‘Install Shell
Commands’ unter the Atom menu“ or something similar would be
helpful.



I am very confused.

apm is mentioned exactly once in the language-livecode docs, as 
something that is a completely optional alternative to people who are 
command-line addicts.


The _very next line_ contains a link to the Atom documentation that 
explains, _in detail_ how to install packages and, indeed, apm.


I don't think any more info is required here.  If you think it's so 
confusing, I'll just delete the mention of apm entirely.


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Re: Anyone Using Atom for LC Script Editing

[Matthias Rebbe]

I was referring to the APM installation itself.
If a system does not have APM installed and the user is new to Atom and wants 
to use the APM method, it might be easier to know that using the “Install Shell 
Commands” menu in Atom will install APM.

A general note like  “If your system does not have APM installed, then you can  
install it using the menu entry ‘Install Shell Commands’ unter the Atom menu“ 
or something similar would be helpful.




> Am 24.03.2016 um 09:21 schrieb Peter TB Brett  >:
> 
> On 24/03/2016 07:45, Matthias Rebbe wrote:
>> Hi,
>> 
>> there are several Linter packages when searching for Linter. So tried to use 
>> APM, which was not installed on my Mac.
>> 
>> It took me some time to find out that i can install APM very easily from 
>> within ATOM using the menu Atom->Install Shell Commands.
>> 
>> Wouldn´t it make sense to add a note on that page how to install APM using 
>> the menu, epecially for new Atom users?
>> 
>> Is Peter TB Brett maintaining that page?
> 
> I'm pretty certain that all the info you need is on the "language-livecode" 
> package's page:
> 
> https://atom.io/packages/language-livecode 
> 
> 
> Peter
> 
> -- 
> Dr Peter Brett mailto:peter.br...@livecode.com>>
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Re: [ANN] guides for positioning of controls

[BNig]

Thierry Douez wrote
> Nice piece of art, kudos :)
> 
> Thierry

Thanks for kind comments.


Sorry, yesterday while I wanted to change a typo in the dialog for auto
install of the stack as plugin I broke inadvertendly the install mechanism.

The installation into the plugins folder should now proceed correctly after
the first start of the stack.

apart from the installation problems the functionality of the plugin was not
affected. So if anyone had to do a manual install of the stack in the plugin
folder then it is all fine.

The new, corrected version uses the same URL

http://berndniggemann.on-rev.com/guides/bnGuides_0_4.livecode.zip

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Re: Anyone Using Atom for LC Script Editing

[Peter TB Brett]

On 24/03/2016 07:45, Matthias Rebbe wrote:

Hi,

there are several Linter packages when searching for Linter. So tried to use 
APM, which was not installed on my Mac.

It took me some time to find out that i can install APM very easily from within 
ATOM using the menu Atom->Install Shell Commands.

Wouldn´t it make sense to add a note on that page how to install APM using the 
menu, epecially for new Atom users?

Is Peter TB Brett maintaining that page?


I'm pretty certain that all the info you need is on the 
"language-livecode" package's page:


https://atom.io/packages/language-livecode

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Re: Anyone Using Atom for LC Script Editing

[Matthias Rebbe]

Hi,

there are several Linter packages when searching for Linter. So tried to use 
APM, which was not installed on my Mac.

It took me some time to find out that i can install APM very easily from within 
ATOM using the menu Atom->Install Shell Commands.

Wouldn´t it make sense to add a note on that page how to install APM using the 
menu, epecially for new Atom users?

Is Peter TB Brett maintaining that page?

Matthias


> Am 24.03.2016 um 05:43 schrieb Monte Goulding :
> 
> 
>> On 24 Mar 2016, at 3:37 PM, Sannyasin Brahmanathaswami  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> I'm contemplating moving from BBEdit to Atom
>> 
>> Any thoughts Atom as an editor for LC scripts?
>> 
>> This is "freaking amazing"
>> 
>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cFAzqvYoHJs
>> 
>> Do we have a package to colorize LC  or RevIgniter scripts?
> 
> Yes just search for livecode. The language pack includes syntax highlighting, 
> code completion, snippets and live linting (script compilation errors) for 
> LCS (server, scripts & script only stacks) and LCB. There’s some setup for 
> the linting.
> 
> Cheers
> 
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Re: Can a widget be in the background?

[Tore Nilsen]

A group with the background behaviour will appear on each new card you create 
after you have made the group. If you know you are going to need a background 
on many cards, then make the background group on the first card, before you add 
the rest of the cards.

Tore
> 24. mar. 2016 kl. 06.02 skrev Earthednet-wp :
> 
> Scott,
> Thanks! You are the man!
> Best,
> Bill
> 
> William Prothero
> http://es.earthednet.org
> 
>> On Mar 23, 2016, at 8:30 PM, Scott Rossi  wrote:
>> 
>> Use "Place Group" under the Object menu to place the group on any card
>> that doesn't already have it.  If you copy and paste, you'll wind up with
>> multiple copies of the group, instead of one group shared across multiple
>> cards.
>> 
>> Regards,
>> 
>> Scott Rossi
>> Creative Director
>> Tactile Media, UX/UI Design
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On 3/23/16, 8:06 PM, "use-livecode on behalf of William Prothero"
>> > proth...@earthednet.org> wrote:
>> 
>>> Please excuse me for the trivial questions. I found that a group can be a
>>> shared background object.
>>> But, I¹m wondering if for a stack with quite a few cards, a new group
>>> with a shared background setting will only appear on new cards.
>>> 
>>> If I create a new stack with several cards, load several UI elements on
>>> the first card, group them, then set them to ³Background Behavior², they
>>> do not show up on all of the existing cards.
>>> 
>>> So, is there a way to make that background group then show up on all
>>> cards? Or, is it simply a matter of copying that group to each card that
>>> I want it on and setting ³Shared behavior² in the inspector?
>>> 
>>> Best,
>>> Bill
>>> 
 On Mar 23, 2016, at 4:37 PM, William Prothero 
 wrote:
 
 I¹m about the replace a menubar with the menubar widget in DP16. What
 I¹m wondering is if this can be set up so it¹s on every card, like
 objects can.
 
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