Re: MergEXT now included with Indy/Business IDE

2016-05-04 Thread Monte Goulding
The integration of the externals made it into LC 8.0.0 but the changes to the 
standalone builder to make them easier to use didn’t because of the risk of 
introducing regressions to such a critical component. Ali is on it though so 
you should see that happen very soon. For now either copy them out or download 
separately.

Cheers

Monte

> On 5 May 2016, at 5:09 AM, Stephen MacLean  wrote:
> 
> Very nice!
> 
> Question: How do you access them from inside the IDE?
> 
> I see them in the package contents, but nothing related to them in the IDE. 
> i.e. nothing in the plugins menu, etc.
> 
> Thanks!
> 
> Steve MacLean
> 
> 
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Re: MergEXT now included with Indy/Business IDE

2016-05-04 Thread Stephen MacLean
Thanks Monte!

> On May 4, 2016, at 8:43 PM, Monte Goulding  wrote:
> 
> The integration of the externals made it into LC 8.0.0 but the changes to the 
> standalone builder to make them easier to use didn’t because of the risk of 
> introducing regressions to such a critical component. Ali is on it though so 
> you should see that happen very soon. For now either copy them out or 
> download separately.
> 
> Cheers
> 
> Monte
> 
>> On 5 May 2016, at 5:09 AM, Stephen MacLean  wrote:
>> 
>> Very nice!
>> 
>> Question: How do you access them from inside the IDE?
>> 
>> I see them in the package contents, but nothing related to them in the IDE. 
>> i.e. nothing in the plugins menu, etc.
>> 
>> Thanks!
>> 
>> Steve MacLean
>> 
>> 
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Re: MergEXT now included with Indy/Business IDE

2016-05-04 Thread stephen barncard
belated question- sorry if it's been asked before...  will mergAV work on
the desktop, or is it planned?
hope I'm not being annoying.

thanks
sqb

Stephen Barncard - Sebastopol Ca. USA -
mixstream.org

On Wed, May 4, 2016 at 5:43 PM, Monte Goulding  wrote:

> The integration of the externals made it into LC 8.0.0 but the changes to
> the standalone builder to make them easier to use didn’t because of the
> risk of introducing regressions to such a critical component. Ali is on it
> though so you should see that happen very soon. For now either copy them
> out or download separately.
>
> Cheers
>
> Monte
>
> > On 5 May 2016, at 5:09 AM, Stephen MacLean 
> wrote:
> >
> > Very nice!
> >
> > Question: How do you access them from inside the IDE?
> >
> > I see them in the package contents, but nothing related to them in the
> IDE. i.e. nothing in the plugins menu, etc.
> >
> > Thanks!
> >
> > Steve MacLean
> >
> >
> >
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Re: MergEXT now included with Indy/Business IDE

2016-05-04 Thread stephen barncard
On Wed, May 4, 2016 at 8:25 PM, stephen barncard <
stephenrevoluti...@barncard.com> wrote:

> will mergAV work on the desktop, or is it planned?


never mind. The platforms seem to be clearly shown at mergext.com


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mixstream.org
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Re: MergEXT now included with Indy/Business IDE

2016-05-04 Thread Monte Goulding
mergAV works on OS X because AVFoundation is very similar on iOS and OS X but 
it would be a major project to create similar functionality for the other 
platforms. It would probably need to be a separate FFmpeg external and then 
that external probably wouldn’t be iOS compatible because of the difficulty 
complying with LGPL in iOS externals for LiveCode and then there’s the whole 
MPEG LA patent quagmire that I very much doubt LiveCode Ltd would like to step 
into.

> On 5 May 2016, at 1:25 PM, stephen barncard  
> wrote:
> 
> belated question- sorry if it's been asked before...  will mergAV work on
> the desktop, or is it planned?
> hope I'm not being annoying.
> 
> thanks
> sqb
> 
> Stephen Barncard - Sebastopol Ca. USA -
> mixstream.org
> 
> On Wed, May 4, 2016 at 5:43 PM, Monte Goulding  wrote:
> 
>> The integration of the externals made it into LC 8.0.0 but the changes to
>> the standalone builder to make them easier to use didn’t because of the
>> risk of introducing regressions to such a critical component. Ali is on it
>> though so you should see that happen very soon. For now either copy them
>> out or download separately.
>> 
>> Cheers
>> 
>> Monte
>> 
>>> On 5 May 2016, at 5:09 AM, Stephen MacLean 
>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Very nice!
>>> 
>>> Question: How do you access them from inside the IDE?
>>> 
>>> I see them in the package contents, but nothing related to them in the
>> IDE. i.e. nothing in the plugins menu, etc.
>>> 
>>> Thanks!
>>> 
>>> Steve MacLean
>>> 
>>> 
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Re: MergEXT now included with Indy/Business IDE

2016-05-04 Thread stephen barncard
On Wed, May 4, 2016 at 8:37 PM, Monte Goulding  wrote:

> mergAV works on OS X


that's the part I needed to know. Thanks.

sqb

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mixstream.org
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Re: [ANN] Release 8.0.0 , project browser

2016-05-04 Thread Sannyasin Brahmanathaswami
The old application browser may work for you

It has moved

Plugins

revApplicationOverview

For some of us.. The first thing we do on downloading any recent version of LC 
is to set this plug-in to open on start up.

BR





On 5/4/16, 12:22 PM, "use-livecode on behalf of Andrew Meit" 
 
wrote:

>Someone have an alternative project browser? I will trade some of my art for 
>or to do something.
>
>Andrew
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Shell Fails on One Machine

2016-05-04 Thread Sannyasin Brahmanathaswami
New iMac with clean install of El Capitan

My stack using shell scripts are failing on the shell calls.

The normal debug procedure:

Open terminal   # test your commands here first

% open /Volumes/Chola1/WWW/public_html

Works as expected.. The folder is opened on the desktop

But from inside my app

Put  "/Volumes/Chola1/WWW/public_html” into pPath

openInFinder pPath

command openInFinder pPath

put ("open " & quote & pPath & quote) into tShell

get shell (tShell)

end openInFinder

Fails…

The result is “1”

Any clues?

BR
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Re: Community PDF Project (was Revenue and the Open Source edition)

2016-05-04 Thread JB
That will help tremendously!

Thank you, Monty

JB

1
> On May 4, 2016, at 5:19 PM, Monte Goulding  wrote:
> 
> BTW I have a some Xcode templates that can help make things easier available 
> at https://github.com/montegoulding/livecode-external-templates
> 
>> On 5 May 2016, at 9:25 AM, JB  wrote:
>> 
>> Thanks Monty.
>> I will give it a try.
>> 
>> JB
>> 
>> 
>>> On May 4, 2016, at 4:09 PM, Monte Goulding  wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
 On 5 May 2016, at 8:39 AM, JB  wrote:
 
 I am trying to compile a external using xCode 7.  Is it possible in anyway 
 to
 make that external work or a way to use any version of Xcode on El Capitan
 and make the external work?
>>> 
>>> Yes
 Do you compile externals on a Mac with new
 OS X systems like El Capitan and if you do what are you doing to make it
 work?  
>>> 
>>> Yes I use El Capitan and the latest Xcode.
 So I am looking for anyway to make the external work.
>>> 
>>> Ok so where exactly are you getting stuck? Perhaps it would help you to 
>>> look at one of my externals on GitHub like mergJson? 
>>> https://github.com/montegoulding/mergJSON
 
 JB
 
 
 
> On May 4, 2016, at 3:21 PM, Monte Goulding  wrote:
> 
> A patch for what precisely?
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On 5 May 2016, at 8:12 AM, JB  wrote:
>> 
>> What I am trying to do is compile a external
>> for Revolution.  Is there a way to compile a
>> external for Revolution on Mac that is using
>> El Capitan?  A patch or anything to make it
>> work?
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Re: IDE Problems in V8-group editing oddities

2016-05-04 Thread Sannyasin Brahmanathaswami
Yes I’m seeing that here too.

Stack remains in memory even after you save, close and remove from memory from 
the file menu. It’s such an issue that I automatically re-boot live code if I 
need to be sure that stack is not in memory.. it’s faster than trying again and 
again…

Ps consider opening separate threads for distinct issues..

But yes… I’ve seen groups disappear also…but at least in one case… I was able 
to place it again… I.e. It was not really “deleted/gone” in that case… but had 
been mysteriously “unplaced” 

I stay away from the project browser for that kind “operation" now.. And I 
manually set the layers of objects from the inspector for the object/group… 
this seems a more stable method. Not the PB is not run time updated when you 
make these changes to layers… you may have to twirls down and up again.. Or 
even close the PB and re-open…

 i.e. Think of the PB as a “view-entry point” and not a place to actually do 
anything and you will be safer.

BR 




On 5/4/16, 8:56 AM, "use-livecode on behalf of William Prothero" 
 
wrote:

>First, in a project I’m working on, closing and removing the project from 
>memory from the File menu doesn’t always work the first time. If the project 
>is showing in the project browser, and I select “Close and Remove from memory” 
>from the project browser, it doesn’t work when I select the stack in the 
>project browser and often does not close the project when I click on the stack 
>I want to close. I have to repeatedly ask it to close and remove from memory, 
>then open the project browser again and the stack may still be listed. After a 
>couple of tries, it works.
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VLC and GPL and LC on iOS (was: Re: MergEXT now included with Indy/Business IDE)

2016-05-04 Thread James Hale
In the referenced thread Monte mentioned something about fmpeg and it 
associated libraries and licensing.
Today I was notified of an update the VLC and remembered how that is now 
available on the App Store.
Looking at Videolan's site, VLC is GPL 2.
How is it that it can be distributed under Apple's terms and conditions and 
still be adhering to its GPL terms and conditions?
Leaving the fact that there is a conflict here the more interesting question to 
me is why didn't Apple stop it. I know they did pull it when it first came out 
for iOS and then a second time but it has been back for a while now. I haven't 
been able to find anything on the Videolan's site to suggest their license has 
changed so what gives?
Is their wiggle room here for LC community apps to get up on the App Store?

James

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Re: min() and array

2016-05-04 Thread Ludovic THEBAULT

> Le 4 mai 2016 à 21:46, Paul Dupuis  a écrit :
> 
> On 5/4/2016 2:47 PM, Ludovic THEBAULT wrote:
>> repeat with i=1 to 5
>>   put 10 + i into tarray[i][v]
>> end repeat
>> put min(tarray[v])
> 
> You problem is with the second index on the array.
> 

Thanks.

Too bad that this function don’t work with second index.


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Re: VLC and GPL and LC on iOS (was: Re: MergEXT now included with Indy/Business IDE)

2016-05-04 Thread Monte Goulding
It appears to be in the store under the Mozilla Pubic License. From a press 
release:

VLC for iOS is fully open-source. Its code will be available online by tomorrow 
and is bi-licensed under both the Mozilla Public License Version 2 as well as 
the GNU General Public License Version 2 or later. The MPLv2 is applicable for 
distribution on the App Store.
We worked hard with all major copyright holders to not repeat history and we 
are confident to have achieved this goal.

> On 5 May 2016, at 3:12 PM, James Hale  wrote:
> 
> In the referenced thread Monte mentioned something about fmpeg and it 
> associated libraries and licensing.
> Today I was notified of an update the VLC and remembered how that is now 
> available on the App Store.
> Looking at Videolan's site, VLC is GPL 2.
> How is it that it can be distributed under Apple's terms and conditions and 
> still be adhering to its GPL terms and conditions?
> Leaving the fact that there is a conflict here the more interesting question 
> to me is why didn't Apple stop it. I know they did pull it when it first came 
> out for iOS and then a second time but it has been back for a while now. I 
> haven't been able to find anything on the Videolan's site to suggest their 
> license has changed so what gives?
> Is their wiggle room here for LC community apps to get up on the App Store?
> 
> James
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Re: VLC and GPL and LC on iOS (was: Re: MergEXT now included with Indy/Business IDE)

2016-05-04 Thread Monte Goulding

> On 5 May 2016, at 3:34 PM, Monte Goulding  wrote:
> 
> Mozilla Pubic License

Oh dear… that could be something else entirely ;-)
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Re: [revIgniter] revIgniter and LC8

2016-05-04 Thread Alex Tweedly
Thanks Dave - good suggestion for the htaccess file, this means you 
never use the 'default' version of LC, you are using the latest version 
of LC 6.x.x without having to specify the exact detailed version !


-- Alex.

On 05/05/2016 01:08, Dave Kilroy wrote:

Hi @Alex, I’m also using revIgniter on HostM and not seeing the same thing…

BTW, on the advice of a HostM technician a while ago I use the following in a 
.htaccess file in a domain folder to select which version of LC Server is used 
(I’ve not tried setting it to “lc8” but should think that would work too) - 
anyway, using this means you don’t have to make any changes to the .lc file 
extensions


SetHandler lc6


Kind regards

Dave





On 5 May 2016, at 00:45, Alex Tweedly  wrote:

[ Hope no-one minds me cross-posting to two lists - but I think this could be 
useful for people on both lists ]

I have a couple of web sites based on revIgniter, hosted on hostM.com

They've been running happily up until today - running the default version in 
use by hostm which was (probably) the latest released version (i.e. 7.1.4 I 
think).

Today, LC8..0 was released, so hostM have changed their default version to that 
- and all my revIgniter sites now fail - see traceback info below.

hostm do provide a way to choose the version to be used, by using a different 
extension (i.e. .lc vs .lc7 vs .lc6 etc.)
However, using this with revIgniter doesn't work, because revIgniter then uses 
the same extension in all included files.

So - in case anyone else runs into this - the quick work-around is to add the 
second line below at line97 in ignite.lc, which is then renamed ignite.lc7
(and of course modify any links/redirects as needed ...)

 put "." & item -1 of sTempFileName into gEXT
 put ".lc" into gEXT-- override for now !! AGT

There may be a better workaround using .htaccess - but I couldn't get that to 
work; I can't figure out what to use for the engine name.


So now that we have a workaround, what's the real problem ?  What about LC8.0 
breaks with revIgniter ?
The traceback is as follows .. web site is  http://christineirvine.co.uk 
  (still under development)

file 
"/home/ua886128/public_html/christineirvine.co.uk/system/libraries/Router.lc"
file "/home/ua886128/public_html/christineirvine.co.uk/system/libraries/URI.lc"
file 
"/home/ua886128/public_html/christineirvine.co.uk/system/libraries/Config.lc"
file "/home/ua886128/public_html/christineirvine.co.uk/system/libraries/Log.lc"
file 
"/home/ua886128/public_html/christineirvine.co.uk/system/libraries/Benchmark.lc"
file 
"/home/ua886128/public_html/christineirvine.co.uk/system/application/config/config.lc"
file 
"/home/ua886128/public_html/christineirvine.co.uk/system/libraries/Hooks.lc"
file 
"/home/ua886128/public_html/christineirvine.co.uk/system/application/config/constants.lc"
file 
"/home/ua886128/public_html/christineirvine.co.uk/system/revigniter/Common.lc"
file 
"/home/ua886128/public_html/christineirvine.co.uk/system/revigniter/RevIgniter.lc"
file 
"/home/ua886128/public_html/christineirvine.co.uk/system/libraries/Router.lc"
   row 1114, col 35: script: parsing error (13)
   row 1114, col 35: Operators mod: can't divide scalar by matrix (then)
   row 1114, col 35: do: can't find command (then)
   row 1114, col 35: request: error in keyword expression (then)
   row 89, col 1: script: parsing error
   row 89, col 1: if-then: error in statement
   row 89, col 1: if-then: error in statement
   row 89, col 1: if-then: error in statement
   row 77, col 1: Handler: error in statement (rigLoadLibrary)
file 
"/home/ua886128/public_html/christineirvine.co.uk/system/libraries/Output.lc"
   row 138, col 1: Handler: can't find handler (rigLoadLibrary)
file 
"/home/ua886128/public_html/christineirvine.co.uk/system/libraries/Input.lc"

I've not been able to identify what is the failing line, or even which script 
it is in :-)

-- Alex.






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Re: Shell Fails on One Machine

2016-05-04 Thread Thierry Douez
> New iMac with clean install of El Capitan
>
> But from inside my app
>
> Put  "/Volumes/Chola1/WWW/public_html” into pPath
> put ("open " & quote & pPath & quote) into tShell
> get shell (tShell)
>
> The result is “1”
>
> Any clues?
>
>
​Hi,

What happens when you do this:

  put shell("open -h")

should return the help summary.
If not, then you have a PATH problem.

Regards,

Thierry
​


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