Apple, Developer Certificates, Provisioning Profiles

[Mark Wieder via use-livecode]

Required reading.

There's a lot to read here, and for once, the comments (also written by 
AgileBits devs) are at least as informative as the original message.


https://blog.agilebits.com/2017/02/21/certificates-provisioning-profiles-and-expiration-dates-the-perfect-storm/

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Re: Script Editor fixable? (was: Configuring a Sublime Text project to notify LiveCode IDE about updates to script only stacks)

[Richard Gaskin via use-livecode]

Dr. Hawkins wrote:

> More commonly, until and unless livecode can save such that such
> standard tools or comparable can be applied, multi-person development
> will remain a fantasy and/or novelty.

And yet here we are, using an IDE written in LiveCode by a team 
comprised of dozens of company and community developers working together 
on a single code base.



> I've come to accept that the next major rewrite of my software is
> going to have to be in something else (Swift?) so that I can add
> developers, as well as the inability to actually put a pdf or eps
> on a card (just a bitmap of it won't do); livecode just doesn't
> seem to me doing towards such a direction.

The Business Edition has already gone that direction:
https://livecode.com/products/livecode-platform/pdf-viewer/

Probably at least an order of magnitude cheaper to upgrade to Business 
than to rewrite the whole thing in Swift from scratch.  And with LC you 
get a cross-platform solution, while even if you did find a GUI 
framework for Swift for Windows you'd likely be writing a lot of forked 
code for each platform.


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Re: Script Editor fixable? (was: Configuring a Sublime Text project to notify LiveCode IDE about updates to script only stacks)

[Dr. Hawkins via use-livecode]

On Sat, Feb 25, 2017 at 5:05 PM, Mike Kerner via use-livecode <
use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:

> I don't think SOS is the main future.  I think it gives us another option.


I don't think it will *ever* be a full-fledged option until stacks
themselves can be saved as text files for use with standard revision
control and patching.  The most it can due is take a chink out of the
corner.

And on the value of those . . .

As I was nearing the end of my dissertation, and had a visiting spot for
the following year lined up, with a $10k difference between waiting for
paperwork (assistant prof) and ABD (instructor), my wife had to go to
California to help her sister's family during her first cancer.  I had to
drive out to pick them up, and lost my transmission in Omaha (really,  It
*does* happen outside of country songs).   I had a laptop  with an older
version of my dissertation with me, and hard-copy of the current version
with advisor comments (between two majors in my Ph.D. and working outside
the departments, I had three advisors).  Because (and only because) LyX and
LaTeX are text format, I was able to simply edit the obsolete copy and use
diff to make a comparison, and apply patch to the most recent copy, and
actually get two days work out of the two days I spent stranded.

More commonly, until and unless livecode can save such that such standard
tools or comparable can be applied, multi-person development will remain a
fantasy and/or novelty.

I've come to accept that the next major rewrite of my software is going to
have to be in something else (Swift?) so that I can add developers, as well
as the inability to actually put a pdf or eps on a card (just a bitmap of
it won't do); livecode just doesn't seem to me doing towards such a
direction.

Yes, I understand the desire to stay true to the hypercard model, but
as-is, I don't see livecode as a viable solution to a project larger than
the indy limits.


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Re: Script Editor fixable? (was: Configuring a Sublime Text project to notify LiveCode IDE about updates to script only stacks)

[Mike Kerner via use-livecode]

Abbreviations that come up in this thread:
LC - livecode
SE - script editor
IDE - Integrated Development Environment
OSS - open source software
SOS - script-only stack


On Sun, Feb 26, 2017 at 8:24 AM, Simon Knight via use-livecode <
use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:

> Hi, as someone who came to Livecode attracted by the hook that it could be
> used by Subject Matter Experts (SMEs) I try and follow these threads but
> please take care with the use of abbreviations / acronyms.  Some I’ve
> worked out others I’ve no idea : OSS open source S?, SOS ??? or
> generally  morse code dot dot dot dash dash dash dot dot dot “Save Our
> Souls”  however it doesn’t read well below ;-)
>
> My concern with external editors is based on my use of the tRev editor in
> the past, which while having some nice features often lost the edits I
> made.  I have no idea how it communicated with the IDE.
>
> I agree with your comments re GIT.  As a one man band it seems like over
> kill in my situation.  So I am creating an AutoSave plugin that makes a
> backup every few minutes if the scripts have been modified (it has no
> knowledge of changes to the UI).  It also produces a simple log file that
> describes the delta between backups.  I am happy to share if it is of any
> interest.
>
> best wishes
>
> Skids
>
> Simon Knight
> s...@anvic.net
> Telephone : 01427 325911
> Mobile : 07963 077071
> Skype : jtidsskids
>
>
>
> > On 26 Feb 2017, at 01:05, Mike Kerner via use-livecode <
> use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:
> >
> > I don't think SOS is the main future.  I think it gives us another
> option.
> > Long before someone learns that technique, they should have the
> traditional
> > method down, cold, and understand why they would use one or the other.
> SOS
> > definitely make working on the IDE easier, and they make complicated
> > projects easier, but I wouldn't even think of teaching someone who isn't
> > already a LC expert about doing it this way.
> >
> > The one thing to remember about the SOS technique is that Git isn't the
> > only option.  Git is hard core, and it is hard.  I still don't like it,
> but
> > I am trying to tolerate it.  If you're using any cloud syncing tool that
> > can keep track of versions (Office365, Gsuite, and Dropbox come to mind),
> > you have simple version control/rollbacks/archiving/etc.
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Re: Script Editor fixable? (was: Configuring a Sublime Text project to notify LiveCode IDE about updates to script only stacks)

[Simon Knight via use-livecode]

Hi, as someone who came to Livecode attracted by the hook that it could be used 
by Subject Matter Experts (SMEs) I try and follow these threads but please take 
care with the use of abbreviations / acronyms.  Some I’ve worked out others 
I’ve no idea : OSS open source S?, SOS ??? or generally  morse code dot dot 
dot dash dash dash dot dot dot “Save Our Souls”  however it doesn’t read well 
below ;-) 

My concern with external editors is based on my use of the tRev editor in the 
past, which while having some nice features often lost the edits I made.  I 
have no idea how it communicated with the IDE.

I agree with your comments re GIT.  As a one man band it seems like over kill 
in my situation.  So I am creating an AutoSave plugin that makes a backup every 
few minutes if the scripts have been modified (it has no knowledge of changes 
to the UI).  It also produces a simple log file that describes the delta 
between backups.  I am happy to share if it is of any interest.

best wishes

Skids

Simon Knight
s...@anvic.net
Telephone : 01427 325911
Mobile : 07963 077071
Skype : jtidsskids



> On 26 Feb 2017, at 01:05, Mike Kerner via use-livecode 
>  wrote:
> 
> I don't think SOS is the main future.  I think it gives us another option.
> Long before someone learns that technique, they should have the traditional
> method down, cold, and understand why they would use one or the other.  SOS
> definitely make working on the IDE easier, and they make complicated
> projects easier, but I wouldn't even think of teaching someone who isn't
> already a LC expert about doing it this way.
> 
> The one thing to remember about the SOS technique is that Git isn't the
> only option.  Git is hard core, and it is hard.  I still don't like it, but
> I am trying to tolerate it.  If you're using any cloud syncing tool that
> can keep track of versions (Office365, Gsuite, and Dropbox come to mind),
> you have simple version control/rollbacks/archiving/etc.
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