ouch: the beginning of the end

2017-03-02 Thread Alejandro Tejada via use-livecode 
I have used LiveCode (then MetaCard) to write content
in PDF templates, so I do not understand the requirement
that file should have no changes.

Al
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Re: Howto read-write-import-export SAP tables

2017-03-02 Thread Malte Brill via use-livecode 
Hi Thierry,

it might be easier to send IDOCs to SAP, which could either be FIX Record files 
(if transfered by SAP ALE), or XML (if connector like PO is set up).
Check Transaction WE60 to get an XSD. SAP might need a connector to accept the 
iDOCs (like for Example PO), but with all possible customisations and User 
exits I would not dare to write directly to the SAP DB. :-)

Cheers,

Malte


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Re: "ouch: the beginning of the end"

2017-03-02 Thread Dr. Hawkins via use-livecode 
On Thu, Mar 2, 2017 at 3:24 PM, J. Landman Gay via use-livecode <
use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:

> I don't know much about EPS or how it relates to PDF. But on Linux, LC
> supports EPS objects. Mac is sorta/kinda Linux. I wonder if something could
> be done about that.
>


At thepdf export level (building code for the variant of Forth that styles
itself "postscript"), it should  be pretty much identical. (in fact, it
should *be* identical for *everything* save for any variation in line
termination used in the filename of the external [if it be external] eps).

Displaying at screen res can't possibly be all that hard; it's a one-time
render that would only change if the pixelDensity (?) was changed (I
actually do that to scale output windows to readable size).

I used to use .eps as background images when I did this in openoffice ten
years ago . . . (the only feature I can name offhand that openCalc can has
that excel doesn't.  Oh, and the openWriter display editor--years ago, I
found my students were doing their stat homework in with openWriter
because, unlike Word, it's equation editor is useful)




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Re: Is it just the IDE that crashes, or are standalone at risk?

2017-03-02 Thread Dr. Hawkins via use-livecode 
And today I note that most of the crashes come while attempting to save
stacks (thus my suspicion that it's related to that specific bug)
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Re: "ouch: the beginning of the end"

2017-03-02 Thread J. Landman Gay via use-livecode 

On 3/2/17 5:13 PM, Dr. Hawkins via use-livecode wrote:

It's 2017; asking to be able to display an eps and keep it as part of the
pdf generated doesn't seem like it's asking much.


I don't know much about EPS or how it relates to PDF. But on Linux, LC 
supports EPS objects. Mac is sorta/kinda Linux. I wonder if something 
could be done about that.


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"ouch: the beginning of the end"

2017-03-02 Thread Dr. Hawkins via use-livecode 
I just got off the phone with the court clerk in Reno, and received the
beginning of the end . . .I figured it would come from some state or anther
in a year or two, but they are requiring me to use the *exact* pdf as
propagated by the court.

As livecode is not capable of rendering a pdf page or an eps, this means I
am going to have to code pdf merging externally, while also working with
.png or .jpg background images in livecode to place onto blank pages.

With the need to maintain both of these, I'll be doing most of the work for
on the parallel program--which may need to be fundamentally different in
mac/linux, windows, iOS, and android--at which point, it will make sense to
move as much as possible to the new platform.

*sigh*

It's 2017; asking to be able to display an eps and keep it as part of the
pdf generated doesn't seem like it's asking much.

.png/.jpg simply aren't acceptable solutions for my output, as the density
required will produce insanely large .pdf files.

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Re: SHA1 cracked .... What are the chances this will be addressed in LC?

2017-03-02 Thread Peter TB Brett via use-livecode 

On 02/03/2017 19:28, Alejandro Tejada via use-livecode wrote:

How difficult would be to guess a sha1 digest, if we repeat it many,
many times? Just as Peter Brett wrote in a previous message:

put sha1Digest(sha1Digest(sha1Digest(tData))) -- 3 times!


Don't do this.  It will make it _easier_ to generate collisions, because 
each successive iteration loses some information from the input -- i.e. 
the scheme you suggest _reduces_ security.


When performing repeated hashing, you need to feed the original data in 
again at each stage.  See this Stack Overflow answer for a very detailed 
explanation:  https://stackoverflow.com/a/17396367/266449


The summary is that you need the following formulation to ensure 
security for repeated hashing:


put sha1Digest(tData & sha1Digest(tData & sha1Digest(tData)))
-- etcetera.

 Peter

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Re: Release 9.0.0 DP-5

2017-03-02 Thread Mike Kerner via use-livecode 
Something else that would be good:  If I could go back to being able to
test right to the device, instead of having to build a standalone and then
install it.  I forget whose plugin let me do that, but I miss that,
especially when I'm testing things that don't work well in the simulator
(like the camera)

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> For anyone other than myself who might possibly care about this sort of
> thing:
>
> 9.0.0 DP-4 runs on Mac OS 10.7.5
>
> while
>
> 9.0.0 DP-5 does not
>
> [which means that when I want to explore its features I shall use the
> Linux version]
>
> Richmond.
>
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Re: Anyone doing a LiveCode Community Chat Bot? Wondering

2017-03-02 Thread Dr. Hawkins via use-livecode 
On Wed, Mar 1, 2017 at 7:27 PM, Alejandro Tejada via use-livecode <
use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:

> Now that I remember, Scott McDonald also included a chatbot "Dr. Eliza" in
> his book about LiveCode games (page 71-77):
>

And how did that make you feel?

:)

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SHA1 cracked .... What are the chances this will be addressed in LC?

2017-03-02 Thread Alejandro Tejada via use-livecode 
How difficult would be to guess a sha1 digest, if we repeat it many,
many times? Just as Peter Brett wrote in a previous message:

put sha1Digest(sha1Digest(sha1Digest(tData))) -- 3 times!

Al
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Re: Howto read-write-import-export SAP tables

2017-03-02 Thread Mike Kerner via use-livecode 
Most ERP systems have an API and external connectors.  You might have to
have SAP do the work, though.  Look up DBCO

On Thu, Mar 2, 2017 at 12:35 PM, Thierry Douez via use-livecode <
use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:

> Hi,
>
> Is there some ways to interact with SAP databases (windows)?
>
> I need to:
>
> import / export datas to / from SAP modules
>
> read / write datas.
>
> My knowledge in this area is close to zero, so any hints or links
> are very much welcomed.
>
> Kind regards,
>
> Thierry
>
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Howto read-write-import-export SAP tables

2017-03-02 Thread Thierry Douez via use-livecode 
Hi,

Is there some ways to interact with SAP databases (windows)?

I need to:

import / export datas to / from SAP modules

read / write datas.

My knowledge in this area is close to zero, so any hints or links
are very much welcomed.

Kind regards,

Thierry

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Blowing Away the Cobwebs

2017-03-02 Thread Gregory Lypny via use-livecode 
Hi everyone,

I’m getting back to LiveCode after a fairly long absence, having been 
sidetracked by a massive text analysis project that required me to depend a lot 
on Mathematica. I’m hoping you can help with a few ad hoc questions.
Does LiveCode have a matrix inverse function? I thought it did but I 
can’t find one. I did find the matrix multiplication function.
Is there a tutorial (for dummies) on writing externals? I’d like to 
export some of my Mathematica code to C and use LiveCode to build a UI. I don’t 
know C, but I do know that Mathematica code can be exported as C.
Is it possible to give fields rounded corners? I don’t see a radius 
property in the field inspector. I can create one by overlaying a field with a 
graphics rectangle that has rounded corners, but if the field property exists, 
I’d rather use it.

Regards,

Greg
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Re: Dragging widgets

2017-03-02 Thread Roger Eller via use-livecode 
On Mar 2, 2017 3:08 AM, "Richmond Mathewson via use-livecode" <
use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:

> Is menu driven scripting really programming? (500-900 words, on my desk
by Monday).
>
> Why do I feel that menu driven scripting is like driving an automatic car
(last time I drove one
> of those I crashed it by using my left foot to press on the "clutch"),
while LiveCode feels like
> driving a manual transmission car, and C++, PASCAL, et al are rather like
building your own
> car before you drive the thing?
>
>>   I prefer to write my own code and find that this is very often quicker
> Richmond.

There used to be (might still be / haven't checked) a menu in the LC Script
Editor to "Insert control structure"  which was good for noobs to get
started with switch statements, etc.

~Roger
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Re: SHA1 cracked .... What are the chances this will be addressed in LC?

2017-03-02 Thread Lagi Pittas via use-livecode 
Excellent points  Axwald especially the last paragraph.

Happy Happy Happy  Fun Fun Fun!! ;-)

On 2 March 2017 at 10:20, axwald via use-livecode <
use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:

> Hi,
>
>
> Dr Peter Brett wrote
> > On 24/02/2017 18:47, axwald via use-livecode wrote:
> > [...]
> >> Not a specialist regarding this, but wouldn't it be possible to
> interface
> >> such?
> >>> https://github.com/jedisct1/libsodium
> >>
> >> @Lagi: The first customer already called to ask if I'd use "this
> security
> >> risk" - thanks "LibHash-Hmac" (Richard posted the URL) I could deny
> >> [...]
> >
> > If you're using SHA-1 to implement an HMAC, you should already be using
> > the recommended formulation:
> >
> >  hmac := hash(key | hash(key | message)) [...]
>
> What I meant mentioning the "LibHash-Hmac" lib is that it contains a
> "sha256digest" function already that is, to my understanding at least, a
> SHA2 implementation. And that it's not only about the real danger of having
> one's hash cracked, it's more about the publicity this crack received, and
> the nosy questions that are coming in now from customers that read about it
> in the news. And, for sure, will never understand any detailed explanation.
>
> The other thing, about libsodium, was the idea not to roll our own crypto
> code, but instead to interface a commonly used, audited, verified &
> accepted
> open source crypto library. And just provide the wrapper as a plugin.
> No idea if such would be possible - this is beyond my knowledge. But for
> real security sensitive coding there's no way but to use audited code
> anyways. It would be a great benefit to have such available in LiveCode,
> IMHO.
>
> Another benefit would be that such a wrapper plugin could be made available
> not only for the most bleeding edge versions of LC - so that commercial
> coders that are forced to use more settled versions for speed, productivity
> & reliability are not left out in the dark & cold, again.
>
> Have fun!
>
>
>
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Re: SHA1 cracked .... What are the chances this will be addressed in LC?

2017-03-02 Thread axwald via use-livecode 
Hi,


Dr Peter Brett wrote
> On 24/02/2017 18:47, axwald via use-livecode wrote:
> [...]
>> Not a specialist regarding this, but wouldn't it be possible to interface
>> such?
>>> https://github.com/jedisct1/libsodium
>>
>> @Lagi: The first customer already called to ask if I'd use "this security
>> risk" - thanks "LibHash-Hmac" (Richard posted the URL) I could deny
>> [...]
> 
> If you're using SHA-1 to implement an HMAC, you should already be using 
> the recommended formulation:
> 
>  hmac := hash(key | hash(key | message)) [...]

What I meant mentioning the "LibHash-Hmac" lib is that it contains a
"sha256digest" function already that is, to my understanding at least, a
SHA2 implementation. And that it's not only about the real danger of having
one's hash cracked, it's more about the publicity this crack received, and
the nosy questions that are coming in now from customers that read about it
in the news. And, for sure, will never understand any detailed explanation.

The other thing, about libsodium, was the idea not to roll our own crypto
code, but instead to interface a commonly used, audited, verified & accepted
open source crypto library. And just provide the wrapper as a plugin.
No idea if such would be possible - this is beyond my knowledge. But for
real security sensitive coding there's no way but to use audited code
anyways. It would be a great benefit to have such available in LiveCode,
IMHO.

Another benefit would be that such a wrapper plugin could be made available
not only for the most bleeding edge versions of LC - so that commercial
coders that are forced to use more settled versions for speed, productivity
& reliability are not left out in the dark & cold, again.

Have fun!



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Re: FTP file upload with non-ascii characters in filename

2017-03-02 Thread Matthias Rebbe via use-livecode 
My problem is solved now.

I found out that
1. it works w/o problems under Windows
2. it works under Mac OS X if i unload/disable tsNET

So i contacted Charles Warwick. This is his answer
—>
"OS X / Linux filesystems are all UTF-8, so you need to convert the filename to 
UTF-8 format before calling libUrlFtpUploadFile.
Try changing the end of your mouseUp handler to look like this:

... 
libURLSetStatusCallback "uploadProgress", the long ID of me
put textencode(tSourceFile, "UTF-8") into tSourceFile
liburlftpuploadfile tSourceFile,tURL ,”uploadComplete"
...

Let me know if that resolves your issue or not.  It seemed to fix the issue on 
my Mac.
If it does - since this seems to only be an issue with tsNet loaded - I will 
modify the libUrl wrapper for tsNet so it automatically does that conversion on 
those platforms in the next LC version to keep compatibility with those not 
using tsNet.”
<— 


I´ve added now a switch that  textencodes the source file if the OS is MacOS or 
Linux. And now it works perfectly.

I know, i know...
Jacqueline already suggested to use textEncode. I did, but for the target file. 
;)
I´ve never  have assumed that i have to do it with the source file.

Regards,

Matthias



> Am 28.02.2017 um 18:10 schrieb Matthias Rebbe via use-livecode 
> >:
> 
> 
> It seems it´s not a problem with non-ascii in general.
> 
> If i first put the content of the file, which i want to upload and which 
> contains non-ascii chars in its filename, 
> into a variable and urlencode the filename of the target file, then i am able 
> to upload the file using "liburlftpupload tData, tTargetURL" without problems.
> 
> But if i use "liburlftpfileupload tSourceFilePath, tTargetURL” to upload the 
> same file using source file path and target URL, then i get an error.
> It works with files wihtout non-ascii chars in their filenames.
> 
> Is it possible that there is a problem with libURL and non-ascii filenames?
> 
> Regards,
> Matthias
> 
> 
>> Am 28.02.2017 um 17:14 schrieb J. Landman Gay via use-livecode 
>>  
>> > >>:
>> 
>> Maybe textDecode(filename) would work.
>> 
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>>  > >
>> HyperActive Software   | http://www.hyperactivesw.com 
>>  > >
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On February 28, 2017 10:01:47 AM Matthias Rebbe via use-livecode 
>>  
>> > >> wrote:
>> 
>>> 
 Am 28.02.2017 um 16:36 schrieb Bob Sneidar via use-livecode 
  
 > 
  
 >> 
>>> Thanks Bob. That´s what i am doing right now.
>>> 
>>> As i cannot guarantee that my customer won´t use such filenames, i will 
>>> implement a function that removes and replaces all characters that are 
>>> non-ascii.
>>> 
>>> Although, i am wondering how ftp clients like transmit are able to handle 
>>> such non-ascii characters. Anyway.
>>> 
>>> Regards,
>>> 
>>> Matthias
>>> 
 Bob S
 
 
> On Feb 28, 2017, at 24:23 , Matthias Rebbe via use-livecode 
>  
>  > 
>   
>   
> Hi,
> 
> i need to upload files with non-ascii characters in the filename and this 
> has to work on Win and Mac OS X.
> 
> 
> 
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Re: Dragging widgets

2017-03-02 Thread Dan Brown via use-livecode 
Eve looks to be the a very promising language for producing html5
applications. The browser IDE is clean and beautifully presented
http://play.witheve.com/#/examples/flappy.eve


On Thu, Mar 2, 2017 at 8:07 AM, Richmond Mathewson via use-livecode <
use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:

> No, HYPE is not 'serious' competition; it might be something that squishes
> LiveCode's HTML5 extension
> if LiveCode don't buck up and get on with things in that direction.
>
> On 3/1/17 11:07 pm, Tore Nilsen via use-livecode wrote:
>
>> 1. mar. 2017 kl. 20.40 skrev Sannyasin Brahmanathaswami via use-livecode <
>>> use-livecode@lists.runrev.com>:
>>>
>>> I just downloaded HYPE from Tumult: this is where some serious
>>> competition is coming from.
>>>
>> If animated content is what you want to build, then, yes. But it is
>> nowhere near the functionality we expect and get from LC. From time to time
>> I use Hype to make animated and interactive content for my students, but
>> when I need to make some serious applications that rely on variables,
>> arrays, writing to and reading from external files, manipulate files and
>> folders on the host system, use controls like radio buttons or check boxes,
>> use menus or editable fields, there is no way this can be done in Hype 3.0
>> without writing html, css and java script manually.
>>
>> The kind of actions you are able to use are limited to mouse/touch
>> actions. Personally I am no big fan of menu driven scripting.
>>
>
> Is menu driven scripting really programming? (500-900 words, on my desk by
> Monday).
>
> Why do I feel that menu driven scripting is like driving an automatic car
> (last time I drove one
> of those I crashed it by using my left foot to press on the "clutch"),
> while LiveCode feels like
> driving a manual transmission car, and C++, PASCAL, et al are rather like
> building your own
> car before you drive the thing?
>
>   I prefer to write my own code and find that this is very often quicker
>> than navigating meny different menus.*I like the way they have managed to
>> implement html/css/javascript in a seamless way though, and I had hoped
>> that this was the kind of implementation we would get in LC.*
>>
>
> Very well said.
>
>
>> Regards
>> Tore Nilsen
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Re: Anyone doing a LiveCode Community Chat Bot? Wondering

2017-03-02 Thread AndyP via use-livecode 
Have a look here

http://newsletters.livecode.com/july/issue152/newsletter2.php
  



-
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My software never has bugs. It just develops random features. 

TinyIDE a Free alternative minimalist IDE Plugin for LiveCode
TinyIDE 


Script editor Themer for LC http://2108.co.uk  

PointandSee is a FREE simple but full featured under cursor colour picker / 
finder.
http://www.pointandsee.co.uk  - made with LiveCode
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Re: Dragging widgets

2017-03-02 Thread Richmond Mathewson via use-livecode 
No, HYPE is not 'serious' competition; it might be something that 
squishes LiveCode's HTML5 extension

if LiveCode don't buck up and get on with things in that direction.

On 3/1/17 11:07 pm, Tore Nilsen via use-livecode wrote:

1. mar. 2017 kl. 20.40 skrev Sannyasin Brahmanathaswami via use-livecode 
:

I just downloaded HYPE from Tumult: this is where some serious competition is 
coming from.

If animated content is what you want to build, then, yes. But it is nowhere 
near the functionality we expect and get from LC. From time to time I use Hype 
to make animated and interactive content for my students, but when I need to 
make some serious applications that rely on variables, arrays, writing to and 
reading from external files, manipulate files and folders on the host system, 
use controls like radio buttons or check boxes, use menus or editable fields, 
there is no way this can be done in Hype 3.0 without writing html, css and java 
script manually.

The kind of actions you are able to use are limited to mouse/touch actions. 
Personally I am no big fan of menu driven scripting.


Is menu driven scripting really programming? (500-900 words, on my desk 
by Monday).


Why do I feel that menu driven scripting is like driving an automatic 
car (last time I drove one
of those I crashed it by using my left foot to press on the "clutch"), 
while LiveCode feels like
driving a manual transmission car, and C++, PASCAL, et al are rather 
like building your own

car before you drive the thing?

  I prefer to write my own code and find that this is very often quicker than navigating meny different menus.*I like the way they have managed to implement html/css/javascript in a 
seamless way though, and I had hoped that this was the kind of 
implementation we would get in LC.*


Very well said.



Regards
Tore Nilsen
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