Re: Tab alignment in fields

2017-12-12 Thread Mark Wieder via use-livecode

On 12/12/2017 08:04 PM, hh via use-livecode wrote:


I have to cancel all my dates for the rest of the year.


Um... you *are* aware that that's a matter of about two weeks, right?

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Re: Tab alignment in fields

2017-12-12 Thread Mark Wieder via use-livecode

On 12/12/2017 08:37 PM, Monte Goulding via use-livecode wrote:



On 13 Dec 2017, at 12:43 pm, Mark Wieder via use-livecode 
 wrote:

On 12/12/2017 05:14 PM, hh via use-livecode wrote:

Fraser?!?
Are you back? Back to make libbrowser run on Raspi? :---)))


https://github.com/livecode/livecode/pull/6182 


That PR is for Pi in general but works around the fact we don’t have a libcef 
build for Pi to use by just not adding a CEF browser factory. So libbrowser 
will work but do nothing. At the moment we use the distributed binaries for 
libcef (there is no Pi binary distributed) but if we did the work required to 
build it from source then we could feasibly support it because it can be built 
for Pi. That obviously comes with a fairly significant maintenance cost though.


Yes, but... that's one of several PRs that Fraser committed in one fell 
swoop for better ARM support. I've been living without any CEF browser 
for months now, so not having one on the Pi isn't going to keep my 
enthusiasm in check. 


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Re: TSNet error (18)

2017-12-12 Thread J. Landman Gay via use-livecode
Thanks for responding Charles. I had looked up the error but couldn't think 
what might cause it. I am trying to find out if there's a proxy involved 
but I'm pretty sure the user doesn't even know what that is. I also 
suggested they turn off any virus checker on the off chance that it's 
scanning downloads and truncating the data (though I don't know if that's 
how they work exactly.) I know the connection was closed and it isn't a 
timeout.


If anyone can think of anything else that might be involved I'll suggest 
that too. It's a puzzle. Dozens of other users have no trouble with the 
same file.


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On December 12, 2017 9:55:50 PM Charles Warwick via use-livecode 
 wrote:



Hi Jacque,

An error code of 18 generally indicates that the server reported the 
transfer would be a certain length, and then it ended up being shorter or 
longer than expected.


In your user’s case, it sounds like the actual downloaded amount is smaller 
than it should be?  As you have said, given that other users are not having 
this issue, it doesn’t sound like a problem on the server end...


Is there possibly a proxy being used that might be getting in the way?

Regards,

Charles

On 11 Dec 2017, at 7:34 am, J. Landman Gay via use-livecode 
 wrote:


A user is getting TSNet error 18 (transfer closed prematurely) when 
downloading a stack from a server on AWS. The same stack is working fine 
for virtually everyone else, so it's something on her end. We'd like to 
point her in the right direction, does anyone know why this might happen to 
a single user out of many, many others?


She's running Windows 10 if that matters. Something must be cutting off the 
transmission, there's 556 bytes remaining to download when it stops.


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Re: Tab alignment in fields

2017-12-12 Thread Monte Goulding via use-livecode

> On 13 Dec 2017, at 12:43 pm, Mark Wieder via use-livecode 
>  wrote:
> 
> On 12/12/2017 05:14 PM, hh via use-livecode wrote:
>> Fraser?!?
>> Are you back? Back to make libbrowser run on Raspi? :---)))
> 
> https://github.com/livecode/livecode/pull/6182 
> 
That PR is for Pi in general but works around the fact we don’t have a libcef 
build for Pi to use by just not adding a CEF browser factory. So libbrowser 
will work but do nothing. At the moment we use the distributed binaries for 
libcef (there is no Pi binary distributed) but if we did the work required to 
build it from source then we could feasibly support it because it can be built 
for Pi. That obviously comes with a fairly significant maintenance cost though.

Cheers

Monte
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Re: libUrl tsNet and socketTimeoutInterval

2017-12-12 Thread Charles Warwick via use-livecode
BR,

You can definitely monitor all of your connections that use tsNet by setting a 
status callback like you have mentioned below.

The overhead of doing this will be determined by the amount of processing you 
do within the callback function.

Cheers,

Charles

> On 11 Dec 2017, at 5:46 am, Sannyasin Brahmanathaswami via use-livecode 
>  wrote:
> 
> @ Charles
> 
> It would appear that perhaps there is a possible global approach that could 
> cover a wide variety of net access conditions.
> 
> am I being naïve or could it be this simple?
> 
> if we just have this running and available all the time
> 
> tsNetSetTimeouts… [add your params here] 
> 
> tsNetSetStatusCallback "urlCallProgressUpdate"
> 
> on urlCallProgressUpdate
>  # check the status of any and all URL download operations
>  # give user feedback in case connection drops or transfers speed drops below 
> low limit
> end urlCallProgressUpdate
> 
> maybe that's really all that is needed. Then we don't worry about or code any 
> kind of status monitoring into specific URL operations.
> 
> One could "dynamically" change the time outs if different scenarios called 
> for allowing longer time spans, i.e users expect a wait while downloading a 
> "package" but they the don't when loading a web page.
> 
> we might simply have this in back script for the whole app
> 
> command toggleNetMonitor  pBool
>  if pBool = "true" then
>  tsNetSetStatusCallback urlCallProgressUpdate
>  else
>tsNetSetStatusCallback ""  
>  end if
> end   toggleNetMonitor 
> 
> I don't know if there is any overhead to leaving this call back be live 
> "24-7-365" in the app or not… but this way we could turn it on and off if 
> that is better practice.
> 
> BR
> 
> 
> On 12/8/17, 5:08 PM, "use-livecode on behalf of Sannyasin Brahmanathaswami 
> via use-livecode"  use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:
> 
>Ralph -- I sent this to you off list by mistake
> 
>copying here FWIW if anyone is lurking. This all looks great and covers 
> "download files" use cases
> 
>The remaining puzzles are one off url calls from/for mobile controls :
> 
>1)  remote path to audio.mp3; for player
>2) url web calls in browser widget to
> a) web pages
> b) youtube (video streaming)
> 
>and how these play with TSNet, bandwidth dropping below set limits, or 
> dropped connections.
> 
>As yet mysterious….
> 
> 
> 
> 
>"  wrote:
> 
>BR,
> 
>I async also works in iOS just fine and dandy. In My app I am getting 
> the background images for cards while the user first logs in. Async allows 
> the images to be downloaded in the background. This allows me to change 
> images without releasing a new app without hanging the app up when I used 
> blocking libURL. The implementation was so easy it was frightening. I also 
> have 6 of these queued up and running at the same time!
> 
>First is a utility(NetworkType) to check the type of networking and a 
> tsNet initialization handler (EISinitTSnet):
> 
>
>function GetNetworkType
>   local tLibUrlDriver
> 
>   try
>  put the behavior of stack"revLibUrl"into tLibUrlDriver
>   end try
>   if tLibUrlDriver is empty then
>  return "Sockets"
>   else
>  return "tsNet"
>   end if
> 
>end GetNetworkType
> 
>command NetworkType
>   if GetNetworkType() = "Sockets" then
>  answer"tsNet is disabled"
>   else
>  answer "tsNet in use"&"Version==>"& tsNetVersion()
>   end if
>end NetworkType
> 
>command EISinitTSnet
>   local tResult
> 
>   try
>  tsNetInit
>  put the result into tResult
>  if tResult is not empty then
> if tResult = "tsneterr: Already initialised" then
> else
>answer tResult
> end if
>  else
> tsNetSetTimeouts 60, 5000, 5000, 5000, 5, 1
>  end if
>   catch someerror
>  if IsInternalUser(true) then answer TranslateError(someerror)
>   end try
>end EISinitTSnet
> 
>
> 
> 
>The Get_Path function below is a function returns paths that are 
> transparent between IDE and mobile. (Richard G. I got sucked into the 
> returning the trailing slash before I realized it was not the best way to do 
> it). I hacked out this code so there could be an error but the basic idea is 
> here.
> 
>I call this first handler(StartBackgroundImageDownload) 12 time 
> quickly and all the downloads work. The app is fully functional while the 
> downloads are 

Re: Tab alignment in fields

2017-12-12 Thread hh via use-livecode
WOW! And moreover HTML5 progress and LCB progress ...
I have to cancel all my dates for the rest of the year.

Thanks a lot Mark for that hint.

> Mark Wieder wrote:
> https://github.com/livecode/livecode/pull/6182


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Re: TSNet error (18)

2017-12-12 Thread Charles Warwick via use-livecode
Hi Jacque,

An error code of 18 generally indicates that the server reported the transfer 
would be a certain length, and then it ended up being shorter or longer than 
expected.

In your user’s case, it sounds like the actual downloaded amount is smaller 
than it should be?  As you have said, given that other users are not having 
this issue, it doesn’t sound like a problem on the server end...

Is there possibly a proxy being used that might be getting in the way?

Regards,

Charles

> On 11 Dec 2017, at 7:34 am, J. Landman Gay via use-livecode 
>  wrote:
> 
> A user is getting TSNet error 18 (transfer closed prematurely) when 
> downloading a stack from a server on AWS. The same stack is working fine for 
> virtually everyone else, so it's something on her end. We'd like to point her 
> in the right direction, does anyone know why this might happen to a single 
> user out of many, many others?
> 
> She's running Windows 10 if that matters. Something must be cutting off the 
> transmission, there's 556 bytes remaining to download when it stops.
> 
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Re: Tab alignment in fields

2017-12-12 Thread Mark Wieder via use-livecode

On 12/12/2017 05:14 PM, hh via use-livecode wrote:

Fraser?!?
Are you back? Back to make libbrowser run on Raspi? :---)))


https://github.com/livecode/livecode/pull/6182
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Re: Script Editor problem

2017-12-12 Thread Mark Wieder via use-livecode

On 12/12/2017 01:18 PM, Mike Kerner via use-livecode wrote:

Sorry, I thought my tongue-in-cheek was obvious.  I've heard of Home.  I
might even have modified mine heavily back in the HC 1/HC 2 days.


I did catch the tongue-in-cheekness, so I stayed out of this. Fun 
watching it take shape, though.


But I do want to point out that the home stack is hackable to your 
heart's content: home.livecodescript. Interesting stuff in there, as 
well... worth a look.


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Re: Tab alignment in fields

2017-12-12 Thread hh via use-livecode
Fraser?!?
Are you back? Back to make libbrowser run on Raspi? :---)))

Hermann

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Re: Tab alignment in fields

2017-12-12 Thread J. Landman Gay via use-livecode

On 12/12/17 5:55 PM, Fraser Gordon via use-livecode wrote:

On 12/12/2017 17:45, Sannyasin Brahmanathaswami via use-livecode wrote:

If you set tab stops for a field, Is there a way to set the alignment for one 
stop/column?
e.g. have all the numbers in the final column on the right align vertically to 
the decimal point or left??

Yup -https://livecode.com/resources/api/#livecode_script/tabalign



I was working with this recently. The dictionary says "The tabAlign of a 
field is a return delimited list of alignments, separated by commas."


How is a return delimited list separated by commas?

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Re: Tab alignment in fields

2017-12-12 Thread Fraser Gordon via use-livecode
On 12/12/2017 17:45, Sannyasin Brahmanathaswami via use-livecode wrote:
> If you set tab stops for a field, Is there a way to set the alignment for one 
> stop/column?
> e.g. have all the numbers in the final column on the right align vertically 
> to the decimal point or left??
Yup - https://livecode.com/resources/api/#livecode_script/tabalign

> I'm pretty sure the answer is no, but just checking if I missed something new…
I added it in LiveCode 7 because we needed most of its mechanisms to
implement right-to-left text properly; getting per-tab-cell alignment
was just a happy bonus ;)

> All the new text style options seem to be for an entire paragraph (aka 
> "line). Nothing in the dictionary related to a "chunk" alignment.

By necessity, tabs have to apply to a whole line - it doesn't really make sense 
to have them settable at any other granularity. (Though, as always, you can set 
them on the field as a whole).

Fraser


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Tab alignment in fields

2017-12-12 Thread Sannyasin Brahmanathaswami via use-livecode
very old dumb question:

If you set tab stops for a field, Is there a way to set the alignment for one 
stop/column?
e.g. have all the numbers in the final column on the right align vertically to 
the decimal point or left??

I'm pretty sure the answer is no, but just checking if I missed something new…

All the new text style options seem to be for an entire paragraph (aka "line). 
Nothing in the dictionary related to a "chunk" alignment,

BR

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Re: Script Editor problem

2017-12-12 Thread J. Landman Gay via use-livecode
Recent stacks are stored in the prefs file, so they are persistent 
across all LC versions that share the same prefs file. However, if you 
change the Start Center then yes, I'm pretty sure that would get replaced.


The other points you make are valid, including that you've been around 
long enough that I should have caught the tongue-in-cheek comments. :)


On 12/12/17 3:18 PM, Mike Kerner via use-livecode wrote:

Sorry, I thought my tongue-in-cheek was obvious.  I've heard of Home.  I
might even have modified mine heavily back in the HC 1/HC 2 days.
What I'm wondering about Start Center is if it gets replaced with each new
install of LC, because if you were to hack it to have it be what Home
originally was, and it gets replaced with each version, you aren't getting
anything.  The recently used stacks list is not as helpful as you would
like because in the case of Levure projects, you will end up with two
stacks in the list for each project.  If you open the wrong one, you have a
problem.  Plus the list gets crowded out and truncated, a situation that is
made worse with script-only stacks (if you open them in the SE)  A
good-old-fashioned Home would make these things easier.

On Tue, Dec 12, 2017 at 4:00 PM, J. Landman Gay via use-livecode <
use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:


"Home" has a specific meaning and there is already a (required) stack with
that name.

Start Center can be set in Preferences to show on every startup. It lists
the last used stacks. If you use a utility frequently it will be there. The
most current projects you've worked on will also be there.


On 12/12/17 2:38 PM, Mike Kerner via use-livecode wrote:


I forgot about Start Center.  Can you (easily) edit Start Center?  Does it
get botched with each new LC version load?  What's wrong with Home?  I
like
Home.  It's a nice name.  It feels like the name I might choose for a
stack
that opens every time LC loads.

On Tue, Dec 12, 2017 at 3:09 PM, J. Landman Gay via use-livecode <
use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:

On 12/12/17 1:26 PM, Mike Kerner via use-livecode wrote:


You know what would be really great?  If we had a stack that opened at

startup that had links to all those projects we're currently working on,
and those utilities we need to run frequently, like collectMyStacks and
a
script to move and resize the script editor.  It would be really helpful
with Levure projects, because we end up with two stacks, a "standalone"
and
the first UI stack in the recent stacks list (and we only want to open
the
standalone).  We could call this new opening stack something like
"home".



You mean, like the Start Center?

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Re: videoClip

2017-12-12 Thread Graham Samuel via use-livecode
Me too.

Graham

> On 12 Dec 2017, at 12:10, Keith Martin via use-livecode 
>  wrote:
> 
> On 12 Dec 2017, at 11:05, Richmond Mathewson via use-livecode wrote:
> 
>> One of the reasons why videoClip and AudioClip are useful
>> is to do with portativity.
> 
> This is a VERY good reason to support this properly. I still find it frankly 
> weird that LC isn't able to handle MP3 media more flexibly than it does at 
> the moment. :-/
> 
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Stop the Spinner Widget

2017-12-12 Thread Sannyasin Brahmanathaswami via use-livecode
8.1.8 Tried some animated GIF spinner "loaders", look horrible when layered 
cards with color… all "pixelated" edges.

Downloaded 9 dp10  since the spinner is not available in 8.1.8

pulled out the new spinner widget. lovely!

Of course we can hide/show, but can we stop it?

…. Like we do with animated gifs,

set the currentFrame  to "0"  # stop
set the currentFrame to -1 # start

does not have many props and "disable" does nothing, at least with respect to 
the "motion" of the spinner.

??

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Re: OAuth over localhost findings.

2017-12-12 Thread Monte Goulding via use-livecode

> On 13 Dec 2017, at 8:17 am, Sean Cole (Pi) via use-livecode 
>  wrote:
>  It
> would be unreasonable to expect all of our app customers (especially as
> many of these are not techie people) to set up a secure server on their
> machines just to create a signable a document. 

That’s exactly what their Java SDK does though. It is distributed with some 
certificates for localhost.

Cheers

Monte
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Re: Script Editor problem

2017-12-12 Thread Brian Milby via use-livecode
Without even looking I would say yes. A plug-in (like Devolution) would not
get touched though (and would have the same settings across different
versions).
On Tue, Dec 12, 2017 at 3:19 PM Mike Kerner via use-livecode <
use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:

> Sorry, I thought my tongue-in-cheek was obvious.  I've heard of Home.  I
> might even have modified mine heavily back in the HC 1/HC 2 days.
> What I'm wondering about Start Center is if it gets replaced with each new
> install of LC, because if you were to hack it to have it be what Home
> originally was, and it gets replaced with each version, you aren't getting
> anything.  The recently used stacks list is not as helpful as you would
> like because in the case of Levure projects, you will end up with two
> stacks in the list for each project.  If you open the wrong one, you have a
> problem.  Plus the list gets crowded out and truncated, a situation that is
> made worse with script-only stacks (if you open them in the SE)  A
> good-old-fashioned Home would make these things easier.
>
> On Tue, Dec 12, 2017 at 4:00 PM, J. Landman Gay via use-livecode <
> use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:
>
> > "Home" has a specific meaning and there is already a (required) stack
> with
> > that name.
> >
> > Start Center can be set in Preferences to show on every startup. It lists
> > the last used stacks. If you use a utility frequently it will be there.
> The
> > most current projects you've worked on will also be there.
> >
> >
> > On 12/12/17 2:38 PM, Mike Kerner via use-livecode wrote:
> >
> >> I forgot about Start Center.  Can you (easily) edit Start Center?  Does
> it
> >> get botched with each new LC version load?  What's wrong with Home?  I
> >> like
> >> Home.  It's a nice name.  It feels like the name I might choose for a
> >> stack
> >> that opens every time LC loads.
> >>
> >> On Tue, Dec 12, 2017 at 3:09 PM, J. Landman Gay via use-livecode <
> >> use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> On 12/12/17 1:26 PM, Mike Kerner via use-livecode wrote:
> >>>
> >>> You know what would be really great?  If we had a stack that opened at
>  startup that had links to all those projects we're currently working
> on,
>  and those utilities we need to run frequently, like collectMyStacks
> and
>  a
>  script to move and resize the script editor.  It would be really
> helpful
>  with Levure projects, because we end up with two stacks, a
> "standalone"
>  and
>  the first UI stack in the recent stacks list (and we only want to open
>  the
>  standalone).  We could call this new opening stack something like
>  "home".
> 
> 
> >>> You mean, like the Start Center?
> >>>
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Re: Script Editor problem

2017-12-12 Thread Mike Kerner via use-livecode
Sorry, I thought my tongue-in-cheek was obvious.  I've heard of Home.  I
might even have modified mine heavily back in the HC 1/HC 2 days.
What I'm wondering about Start Center is if it gets replaced with each new
install of LC, because if you were to hack it to have it be what Home
originally was, and it gets replaced with each version, you aren't getting
anything.  The recently used stacks list is not as helpful as you would
like because in the case of Levure projects, you will end up with two
stacks in the list for each project.  If you open the wrong one, you have a
problem.  Plus the list gets crowded out and truncated, a situation that is
made worse with script-only stacks (if you open them in the SE)  A
good-old-fashioned Home would make these things easier.

On Tue, Dec 12, 2017 at 4:00 PM, J. Landman Gay via use-livecode <
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> "Home" has a specific meaning and there is already a (required) stack with
> that name.
>
> Start Center can be set in Preferences to show on every startup. It lists
> the last used stacks. If you use a utility frequently it will be there. The
> most current projects you've worked on will also be there.
>
>
> On 12/12/17 2:38 PM, Mike Kerner via use-livecode wrote:
>
>> I forgot about Start Center.  Can you (easily) edit Start Center?  Does it
>> get botched with each new LC version load?  What's wrong with Home?  I
>> like
>> Home.  It's a nice name.  It feels like the name I might choose for a
>> stack
>> that opens every time LC loads.
>>
>> On Tue, Dec 12, 2017 at 3:09 PM, J. Landman Gay via use-livecode <
>> use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:
>>
>> On 12/12/17 1:26 PM, Mike Kerner via use-livecode wrote:
>>>
>>> You know what would be really great?  If we had a stack that opened at
 startup that had links to all those projects we're currently working on,
 and those utilities we need to run frequently, like collectMyStacks and
 a
 script to move and resize the script editor.  It would be really helpful
 with Levure projects, because we end up with two stacks, a "standalone"
 and
 the first UI stack in the recent stacks list (and we only want to open
 the
 standalone).  We could call this new opening stack something like
 "home".


>>> You mean, like the Start Center?
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Re: OAuth over localhost findings.

2017-12-12 Thread Sean Cole (Pi) via use-livecode
Hey Monte,

The really interesting thing that we could utilise within the OAuth lib,
regardless of whether the redirect is set to secure or insecure, once the
navigation occurs we can capture the parameters returned from the URL. It
would be unreasonable to expect all of our app customers (especially as
many of these are not techie people) to set up a secure server on their
machines just to create a signable a document. For now, I have written my
own library that does work with any secure site, especially as yours is not
available for anything created in less than LC9.

Thanks for reading though. It was an observation I thought you might like.

Sean Cole
*Pi Digital *

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> Hi Sean
>
> The HTTPS redirect uri requirement does make things a little trickier. A
> quick search indicates that a local HTTPS server is possible (Adobe’s Java
> SDK for sign uses one). I would need to research on the feasibility of
> implementing such a thing in LC though. At a minimum I suspect we would
> need to be able to accept secure connections which we can’t presently.
>
> Cheers
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Re: Script Editor problem

2017-12-12 Thread Sannyasin Brahmanathaswami via use-livecode
J. Landman Gay 

Start Center can be set in Preferences to show on every startup. It 
lists the last used stacks. If you use a utility frequently it will be 
there. The most current projects you've worked on will also be there.

9 dp 10  set pref to open on start up… reboot…"nada"

BR

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Re: Script Editor problem

2017-12-12 Thread J. Landman Gay via use-livecode
"Home" has a specific meaning and there is already a (required) stack 
with that name.


Start Center can be set in Preferences to show on every startup. It 
lists the last used stacks. If you use a utility frequently it will be 
there. The most current projects you've worked on will also be there.


On 12/12/17 2:38 PM, Mike Kerner via use-livecode wrote:

I forgot about Start Center.  Can you (easily) edit Start Center?  Does it
get botched with each new LC version load?  What's wrong with Home?  I like
Home.  It's a nice name.  It feels like the name I might choose for a stack
that opens every time LC loads.

On Tue, Dec 12, 2017 at 3:09 PM, J. Landman Gay via use-livecode <
use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:


On 12/12/17 1:26 PM, Mike Kerner via use-livecode wrote:


You know what would be really great?  If we had a stack that opened at
startup that had links to all those projects we're currently working on,
and those utilities we need to run frequently, like collectMyStacks and a
script to move and resize the script editor.  It would be really helpful
with Levure projects, because we end up with two stacks, a "standalone"
and
the first UI stack in the recent stacks list (and we only want to open the
standalone).  We could call this new opening stack something like "home".



You mean, like the Start Center?

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Re: Script Editor problem

2017-12-12 Thread Mike Kerner via use-livecode
I forgot about Start Center.  Can you (easily) edit Start Center?  Does it
get botched with each new LC version load?  What's wrong with Home?  I like
Home.  It's a nice name.  It feels like the name I might choose for a stack
that opens every time LC loads.

On Tue, Dec 12, 2017 at 3:09 PM, J. Landman Gay via use-livecode <
use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:

> On 12/12/17 1:26 PM, Mike Kerner via use-livecode wrote:
>
>> You know what would be really great?  If we had a stack that opened at
>> startup that had links to all those projects we're currently working on,
>> and those utilities we need to run frequently, like collectMyStacks and a
>> script to move and resize the script editor.  It would be really helpful
>> with Levure projects, because we end up with two stacks, a "standalone"
>> and
>> the first UI stack in the recent stacks list (and we only want to open the
>> standalone).  We could call this new opening stack something like "home".
>>
>
> You mean, like the Start Center?
>
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Re: Script Editor problem

2017-12-12 Thread J. Landman Gay via use-livecode

On 12/12/17 1:26 PM, Mike Kerner via use-livecode wrote:

You know what would be really great?  If we had a stack that opened at
startup that had links to all those projects we're currently working on,
and those utilities we need to run frequently, like collectMyStacks and a
script to move and resize the script editor.  It would be really helpful
with Levure projects, because we end up with two stacks, a "standalone" and
the first UI stack in the recent stacks list (and we only want to open the
standalone).  We could call this new opening stack something like "home".


You mean, like the Start Center?

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Re: Script Editor problem

2017-12-12 Thread Brian Milby via use-livecode
Sounds like Devolution
On Tue, Dec 12, 2017 at 1:37 PM Mike Kerner via use-livecode <
use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:

> Well, if we ever group-hack the ide, maybe you could build it, Bob.  I'd
> like that.
>
> On Tue, Dec 12, 2017 at 2:30 PM, Bob Sneidar via use-livecode <
> use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:
>
> > That's a crazy idea. No one would use something like that. ;-)
> >
> > Bob S
> >
> >
> >
> > > On Dec 12, 2017, at 11:26 , Mike Kerner via use-livecode <
> > use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > You know what would be really great?  If we had a stack that opened at
> > > startup that had links to all those projects we're currently working
> on,
> > > and those utilities we need to run frequently, like collectMyStacks
> and a
> > > script to move and resize the script editor.  It would be really
> helpful
> > > with Levure projects, because we end up with two stacks, a "standalone"
> > and
> > > the first UI stack in the recent stacks list (and we only want to open
> > the
> > > standalone).  We could call this new opening stack something like
> "home".
> >
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Re: Script Editor problem

2017-12-12 Thread Mike Kerner via use-livecode
Well, if we ever group-hack the ide, maybe you could build it, Bob.  I'd
like that.

On Tue, Dec 12, 2017 at 2:30 PM, Bob Sneidar via use-livecode <
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> That's a crazy idea. No one would use something like that. ;-)
>
> Bob S
>
>
>
> > On Dec 12, 2017, at 11:26 , Mike Kerner via use-livecode <
> use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:
> >
> > You know what would be really great?  If we had a stack that opened at
> > startup that had links to all those projects we're currently working on,
> > and those utilities we need to run frequently, like collectMyStacks and a
> > script to move and resize the script editor.  It would be really helpful
> > with Levure projects, because we end up with two stacks, a "standalone"
> and
> > the first UI stack in the recent stacks list (and we only want to open
> the
> > standalone).  We could call this new opening stack something like "home".
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Re: Script Editor problem

2017-12-12 Thread Bob Sneidar via use-livecode
That's a crazy idea. No one would use something like that. ;-)

Bob S



> On Dec 12, 2017, at 11:26 , Mike Kerner via use-livecode 
>  wrote:
> 
> You know what would be really great?  If we had a stack that opened at
> startup that had links to all those projects we're currently working on,
> and those utilities we need to run frequently, like collectMyStacks and a
> script to move and resize the script editor.  It would be really helpful
> with Levure projects, because we end up with two stacks, a "standalone" and
> the first UI stack in the recent stacks list (and we only want to open the
> standalone).  We could call this new opening stack something like "home".


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Re: Script Editor problem

2017-12-12 Thread Mike Kerner via use-livecode
You know what would be really great?  If we had a stack that opened at
startup that had links to all those projects we're currently working on,
and those utilities we need to run frequently, like collectMyStacks and a
script to move and resize the script editor.  It would be really helpful
with Levure projects, because we end up with two stacks, a "standalone" and
the first UI stack in the recent stacks list (and we only want to open the
standalone).  We could call this new opening stack something like "home".
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Re: videoClip

2017-12-12 Thread J. Landman Gay via use-livecode
I misread portativity too but they're similar anyway. It isn't hard to 
store the video as a custom property, write it to the temp folder on 
demand, and assign a player to that filename. Later just delete the temp file.


I've done this and it works fine.

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On December 12, 2017 5:31:49 AM Mark Waddingham via use-livecode 
 wrote:



On 2017-12-12 12:24, Mark Waddingham via use-livecode wrote:

On 2017-12-12 12:05, Richmond Mathewson via use-livecode wrote:

One of the reasons why videoClip and AudioClip are useful
is to do with portativity.


That would be true - if playing a videoclip didn't use a temporary
player object 'under the hood' - i.e. you get no more with using
videoclips than you do with players with regards portability...


Ignore that - I misread 'portativity' as 'portability' :)

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Re: advertising,again, and is anyone actually making money from it?

2017-12-12 Thread Bob Sneidar via use-livecode
If only AOL could have hung in there. ;-)

Bob S



> On Dec 11, 2017, at 18:56 , Richard Gaskin via use-livecode 
>  wrote:
> 
> Without a page on Facebook, a great many consumers will never know your 
> product exists.


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Android Install with LiveCode

2017-12-12 Thread Todd Fabacher via use-livecode
Hello All,

Currently, Google supports 50MB in the App install. There is a way to
reference another 200MB is a separate file in native Java Apps. Is that
possible in LiveCode??

Now iOS support 100MB+ with LiveCode, but Android still seems to be limited
to 50MB.

Please help,

Todd
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This Week in LiveCode 110

2017-12-12 Thread panagiotis merakos via use-livecode
Hi all,

Read about new developments in LiveCode open source and the open source
community in today's edition of the "This Week in LiveCode" newsletter!

Read issue #110 here: https://goo.gl/4wxNaD

This is a weekly newsletter about LiveCode, focussing on what's been
going on in and around the open source project. New issues will be
released weekly on Mondays. We have a dedicated mailing list that will
deliver each issue directly to you e-mail, so you don't miss any!

If you have anything you'd like mentioned (a project, a discussion
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Re: videoClip

2017-12-12 Thread Mark Waddingham via use-livecode

On 2017-12-12 12:24, Mark Waddingham via use-livecode wrote:

On 2017-12-12 12:05, Richmond Mathewson via use-livecode wrote:

One of the reasons why videoClip and AudioClip are useful
is to do with portativity.


That would be true - if playing a videoclip didn't use a temporary
player object 'under the hood' - i.e. you get no more with using
videoclips than you do with players with regards portability...


Ignore that - I misread 'portativity' as 'portability' :)

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Re: videoClip

2017-12-12 Thread Mark Waddingham via use-livecode

On 2017-12-12 12:05, Richmond Mathewson via use-livecode wrote:

One of the reasons why videoClip and AudioClip are useful
is to do with portativity.


That would be true - if playing a videoclip didn't use a temporary 
player object 'under the hood' - i.e. you get no more with using 
videoclips than you do with players with regards portability...


(This is not to say 'play videoclip' shouldn't work - just that it is 
just sugar for using a player).


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Re: videoClip

2017-12-12 Thread Keith Martin via use-livecode

On 12 Dec 2017, at 11:05, Richmond Mathewson via use-livecode wrote:


One of the reasons why videoClip and AudioClip are useful
is to do with portativity.


This is a VERY good reason to support this properly. I still find it 
frankly weird that LC isn't able to handle MP3 media more flexibly than 
it does at the moment. :-/


k

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Re: videoClip

2017-12-12 Thread Richmond Mathewson via use-livecode

One of the reasons why videoClip and AudioClip are useful
is to do with portativity.

Richmond.

On 12/12/17 1:02 pm, panagiotis merakos via use-livecode wrote:

I guess the reason for that is that you can do waaay more stuff with the
player object, so this bug is not of very high priority.

On Tue, Dec 12, 2017 at 10:59 AM, Richmond Mathewson via use-livecode <
use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:


That bug has been sitting around, unsorted-out
for a very long time.

Um?

Richmond.

On 12/12/17 12:47 pm, panagiotis merakos via use-livecode wrote:


Hi Richmond,

You are affected by this bug:
http://quality.livecode.com/show_bug.cgi?id=13951

I suggest using a player instead. The "play audioclip/videoclip .." syntax
does not support a lot of multimedia formats.

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LiveCode 8.1.8, Mac OS 10.7.5

So, I imported a video in 3 formats into my stack:

BubbleSort.mp4
BubbleSort.avi
BubbleSort.mov

and in a button popped this script:

on mouseUp
play videoClip "BubbleSort.mp4"
end mouseUp

[and variants thereof]

and in all 3 cases all I got was the sound track: no film.

Is it:

1. Me?
2. LiveCode 8.1.8?
3. My computer?

Richmond.
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Re: videoClip

2017-12-12 Thread panagiotis merakos via use-livecode
I guess the reason for that is that you can do waaay more stuff with the
player object, so this bug is not of very high priority.

On Tue, Dec 12, 2017 at 10:59 AM, Richmond Mathewson via use-livecode <
use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:

> That bug has been sitting around, unsorted-out
> for a very long time.
>
> Um?
>
> Richmond.
>
> On 12/12/17 12:47 pm, panagiotis merakos via use-livecode wrote:
>
>> Hi Richmond,
>>
>> You are affected by this bug:
>> http://quality.livecode.com/show_bug.cgi?id=13951
>>
>> I suggest using a player instead. The "play audioclip/videoclip .." syntax
>> does not support a lot of multimedia formats.
>>
>> Best,
>> Panos
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>> On Tue, Dec 12, 2017 at 10:40 AM, Richmond Mathewson via use-livecode <
>> use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:
>>
>> LiveCode 8.1.8, Mac OS 10.7.5
>>>
>>> So, I imported a video in 3 formats into my stack:
>>>
>>> BubbleSort.mp4
>>> BubbleSort.avi
>>> BubbleSort.mov
>>>
>>> and in a button popped this script:
>>>
>>> on mouseUp
>>>play videoClip "BubbleSort.mp4"
>>> end mouseUp
>>>
>>> [and variants thereof]
>>>
>>> and in all 3 cases all I got was the sound track: no film.
>>>
>>> Is it:
>>>
>>> 1. Me?
>>> 2. LiveCode 8.1.8?
>>> 3. My computer?
>>>
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Re: videoClip

2017-12-12 Thread Richmond Mathewson via use-livecode

That bug has been sitting around, unsorted-out
for a very long time.

Um?

Richmond.

On 12/12/17 12:47 pm, panagiotis merakos via use-livecode wrote:

Hi Richmond,

You are affected by this bug:
http://quality.livecode.com/show_bug.cgi?id=13951

I suggest using a player instead. The "play audioclip/videoclip .." syntax
does not support a lot of multimedia formats.

Best,
Panos
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On Tue, Dec 12, 2017 at 10:40 AM, Richmond Mathewson via use-livecode <
use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:


LiveCode 8.1.8, Mac OS 10.7.5

So, I imported a video in 3 formats into my stack:

BubbleSort.mp4
BubbleSort.avi
BubbleSort.mov

and in a button popped this script:

on mouseUp
   play videoClip "BubbleSort.mp4"
end mouseUp

[and variants thereof]

and in all 3 cases all I got was the sound track: no film.

Is it:

1. Me?
2. LiveCode 8.1.8?
3. My computer?

Richmond.
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Re: videoClip

2017-12-12 Thread Richmond Mathewson via use-livecode

Thank you, Panos,

although when I first read your message I read it as:

"You are infected by this bug:''

Richmond.

On 12/12/17 12:47 pm, panagiotis merakos via use-livecode wrote:

Hi Richmond,

You are affected by this bug:
http://quality.livecode.com/show_bug.cgi?id=13951

I suggest using a player instead. The "play audioclip/videoclip .." syntax
does not support a lot of multimedia formats.

Best,
Panos
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On Tue, Dec 12, 2017 at 10:40 AM, Richmond Mathewson via use-livecode <
use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:


LiveCode 8.1.8, Mac OS 10.7.5

So, I imported a video in 3 formats into my stack:

BubbleSort.mp4
BubbleSort.avi
BubbleSort.mov

and in a button popped this script:

on mouseUp
   play videoClip "BubbleSort.mp4"
end mouseUp

[and variants thereof]

and in all 3 cases all I got was the sound track: no film.

Is it:

1. Me?
2. LiveCode 8.1.8?
3. My computer?

Richmond.
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Re: videoClip

2017-12-12 Thread panagiotis merakos via use-livecode
Hi Richmond,

You are affected by this bug:
http://quality.livecode.com/show_bug.cgi?id=13951

I suggest using a player instead. The "play audioclip/videoclip .." syntax
does not support a lot of multimedia formats.

Best,
Panos
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On Tue, Dec 12, 2017 at 10:40 AM, Richmond Mathewson via use-livecode <
use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:

> LiveCode 8.1.8, Mac OS 10.7.5
>
> So, I imported a video in 3 formats into my stack:
>
> BubbleSort.mp4
> BubbleSort.avi
> BubbleSort.mov
>
> and in a button popped this script:
>
> on mouseUp
>   play videoClip "BubbleSort.mp4"
> end mouseUp
>
> [and variants thereof]
>
> and in all 3 cases all I got was the sound track: no film.
>
> Is it:
>
> 1. Me?
> 2. LiveCode 8.1.8?
> 3. My computer?
>
> Richmond.
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videoClip

2017-12-12 Thread Richmond Mathewson via use-livecode

LiveCode 8.1.8, Mac OS 10.7.5

So, I imported a video in 3 formats into my stack:

BubbleSort.mp4
BubbleSort.avi
BubbleSort.mov

and in a button popped this script:

on mouseUp
  play videoClip "BubbleSort.mp4"
end mouseUp

[and variants thereof]

and in all 3 cases all I got was the sound track: no film.

Is it:

1. Me?
2. LiveCode 8.1.8?
3. My computer?

Richmond.
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Re: Script Editor problem

2017-12-12 Thread AndyP via use-livecode
For future problems like this I've just updated CollectMyStacks to include
stack reduction.

http://livecodeshare.runrev.com/stack/855/CollectMyStacks
  

Hope you find it useful.




-
Andy Piddock 


My software never has bugs. It just develops random features. 

TinyIDE a Free alternative minimalist IDE Plugin for LiveCode
TinyIDE 


Script editor Themer for LC http://2108.co.uk  

PointandSee is a FREE simple but full featured under cursor colour picker / 
finder.
http://www.pointandsee.co.uk  - made with LiveCode
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