Re: gather windows

[William Prothero via use-livecode]

I downloaded Richard’s devolution program and it’s very handy. Thanks, Richard!
Bill

> On Mar 27, 2018, at 10:23 AM, Richard Gaskin via use-livecode 
>  wrote:
> 
> Mike Kerner wrote:
> 
> > didn't someone write a stack for gathering all windows after a
> > multi-monitor fiasco?
> 
> In addition to the forum script Panos linked to, that's also built into 
> devolution's DeskView tool, accessed by right-clicking in any open part of 
> the tool's mini desktop:
> http://fourthworld.net/lc/devo-deskview.png
> 
> devolution is freely available here:
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Re: Qustion abut "the stackfiles"

[William Prothero via use-livecode]

Do you mean you store the stackfiles in a database, then load the locations 
with the splash screen?
Bill

> On Mar 27, 2018, at 2:52 PM, Sannyasin Brahmanathaswami via use-livecode 
>  wrote:
> 
> You the splash get "messed-up" from occasional resave. 
> 
> Don't tell me how, but occasionally the path (which should be relative) 
> becomes absolute
> 
> lib_calendar   libraries/lib_calendar.livecodescript  #which it should be
> 
> becomes 
> 
> lib_calendary   
> /users/brahma/documents/myapp/libraries/lib_calendar.livecodescript  
> 
> plus you are changing files from time to time, so the stackfiles is obsolete.
> 
> We fixed this by starting with json files, which then sets the splash 
> stackFiles on stack start up 
> 
> On 3/27/18, 11:13 AM, "use-livecode on behalf of William Prothero via 
> use-livecode"  use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:
> 
>Folks:
>I’m setting up an application with a splash stack and lots of other stacks 
> and libraries that are loaded by the splash stack. I am using “the 
> stackfiles” of the splash stack to get the relative paths of the various 
> stacks in the resources folder. I’m on LC 9.0.0(rc2), on Mac OS 10.12.3
> 
>What I’m wondering is if there are any “gotchas” with using this method to 
> get the relative paths to the various resource stacks. It seems like this may 
> be the easiest way to adjust paths for the various deployment targets.
> 
>Best,
>Bill
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Re: [OT] Web based HyperCard

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> On Mar 27, 2018, at 10:19 AM, Mark Wieder via use-livecode 
>  wrote:
> 
> Better yet, it appears that this may be the Ben Fisher who has been part of 
> the RR/LC community for a dozen or so years.


He is that Ben Fisher  :- )

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Re: Qustion abut "the stackfiles"

[Sannyasin Brahmanathaswami via use-livecode]

You the splash get "messed-up" from occasional resave. 

Don't tell me how, but occasionally the path (which should be relative) becomes 
absolute

lib_calendar   libraries/lib_calendar.livecodescript  #which it should be

becomes 

lib_calendary   
/users/brahma/documents/myapp/libraries/lib_calendar.livecodescript  

plus you are changing files from time to time, so the stackfiles is obsolete.

We fixed this by starting with json files, which then sets the splash 
stackFiles on stack start up 

On 3/27/18, 11:13 AM, "use-livecode on behalf of William Prothero via 
use-livecode"  wrote:

Folks:
I’m setting up an application with a splash stack and lots of other stacks 
and libraries that are loaded by the splash stack. I am using “the stackfiles” 
of the splash stack to get the relative paths of the various stacks in the 
resources folder. I’m on LC 9.0.0(rc2), on Mac OS 10.12.3

What I’m wondering is if there are any “gotchas” with using this method to 
get the relative paths to the various resource stacks. It seems like this may 
be the easiest way to adjust paths for the various deployment targets.

Best,
Bill

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Re: Qustion abut "the stackfiles"

[Bob Sneidar via use-livecode]

This is the prescribed way to do this in a splash stack scenario. The Splash 
Stack becomes your executable, and all the other stacks, including the *actual* 
application stack end up in the right place as editable stacks. (The Executable 
stack is not editable so you cannot set properties that stick from session to 
session, or save the stacks state.) 

Bob S


> On Mar 27, 2018, at 14:13 , William Prothero via use-livecode 
>  wrote:
> 
> Folks:
> I’m setting up an application with a splash stack and lots of other stacks 
> and libraries that are loaded by the splash stack. I am using “the 
> stackfiles” of the splash stack to get the relative paths of the various 
> stacks in the resources folder. I’m on LC 9.0.0(rc2), on Mac OS 10.12.3
> 
> What I’m wondering is if there are any “gotchas” with using this method to 
> get the relative paths to the various resource stacks. It seems like this may 
> be the easiest way to adjust paths for the various deployment targets.
> 
> Best,
> Bill
> 
> William A. Prothero

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Qustion abut "the stackfiles"

[William Prothero via use-livecode]

Folks:
I’m setting up an application with a splash stack and lots of other stacks and 
libraries that are loaded by the splash stack. I am using “the stackfiles” of 
the splash stack to get the relative paths of the various stacks in the 
resources folder. I’m on LC 9.0.0(rc2), on Mac OS 10.12.3

What I’m wondering is if there are any “gotchas” with using this method to get 
the relative paths to the various resource stacks. It seems like this may be 
the easiest way to adjust paths for the various deployment targets.

Best,
Bill

William A. Prothero
http://earthlearningsolutions.org

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OT: WebOS resurfaces for the raspberry pi !!!

[Mark Wieder via use-livecode]

https://blog.adafruit.com/2018/03/23/lg-releases-webos-open-source-edition-optimized-for-raspberry-pi-3-raspberry_pi-piday-raspberrypi/

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Re: [OT] Web based HyperCard

[Richmond Mathewson via use-livecode]

Hence my posting about an online version of LiveCode.

Richmond.

On 27/3/2018 4:28 pm, Rick Harrison via use-livecode wrote:

Hi Scott,

Tell us about it again once it is full color and not just B

Thanks,

Rick


On Mar 27, 2018, at 1:36 AM, scott--- via use-livecode 
 wrote:

This may be of interest to some of you (old) HyperCard folks.

"ViperCard in an open source re-creation and re-imagination of 1987’s 
HyperCard.”  It runs in a web browser (not Safari, apparently but Firefox seemed to 
work well)

https://www.vipercard.net/

It is still version 0.2 but the paint tools, button, field and script window 
are working as you might expect. (Plus a lot of documentation!) I was amazed by 
what it could do and how closely it followed the old HyperCard look. ViperCard 
is the work of Ben Fisher, who I had the great pleasure of introducing to 
HyperCard back in the day… when he was 8 years old and a student in my third 
grade class.  Way cool!

Scott Morrow



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Re: variable xref

[Mark Wieder via use-livecode]

On 03/27/2018 06:56 AM, Mike Kerner via use-livecode wrote:

Has anyone written a script to go through a stack and xref the variables?



Yeah, but I didn't find it of much use. Unless you're using a lot of 
global variables or constants, why would this be useful?


..and notice that this task becomes a *lot* easier if you declare variables.

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Re: gather windows

[Richard Gaskin via use-livecode]

Mike Kerner wrote:

> didn't someone write a stack for gathering all windows after a
> multi-monitor fiasco?

In addition to the forum script Panos linked to, that's also built into 
devolution's DeskView tool, accessed by right-clicking in any open part 
of the tool's mini desktop:

http://fourthworld.net/lc/devo-deskview.png

devolution is freely available here:
http://fourthworld.com/products/devolution/

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Re: [OT] Web based HyperCard

[Mark Wieder via use-livecode]

On 03/27/2018 07:06 AM, Keith Martin via use-livecode wrote:

But seriously, while I don't see a hard-nosed practical use for this it 
is an astounding feat!


Better yet, it appears that this may be the Ben Fisher who has been part 
of the RR/LC community for a dozen or so years.


I donated and forked the code.

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Re: [OT] Web based HyperCard

[Bob Sneidar via use-livecode]

My first serious Hypercard app kept track of the last 24 months of responses 
and donations to a syndicated non-profit radio ministry to track which stations 
were generating responses/donations. Eventually I had it calculating a weighted 
formula based upon how much the station paid us or we paid them to air the 
program, along with responses and donations so we could determine where we were 
being the most effective against the money received/spent. I even had it 
cutting checks! 

Bob S


> On Mar 27, 2018, at 09:18 , tbodine via use-livecode 
>  wrote:
> 
> Very cool! Playing with the paint features takes me back to my first Mac
> encounter in 1984 with MacPaint: Draw a rect. Fill it with brick pattern.
> Spray paint some graffiti on it. Virtual vandalism -- satisfying and
> harmless.
> 
> Thanks for the link!
> 
> Tom B.
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Re: [OT] Web based HyperCard

[tbodine via use-livecode]

Very cool! Playing with the paint features takes me back to my first Mac
encounter in 1984 with MacPaint: Draw a rect. Fill it with brick pattern.
Spray paint some graffiti on it. Virtual vandalism -- satisfying and
harmless.

Thanks for the link!

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Re: [OT] Web based HyperCard

[Colin Holgate via use-livecode]

In Safari preferences you can say to show the Develop menu. In the Develop menu 
there are experimental features you can enable. I have most of those turned on.



> On Mar 27, 2018, at 8:59 AM, dunbarx via use-livecode 
>  wrote:
> 
> Could only see a black screen when opening in Safari on OS 10.9.
> 
> Craig Newman
> 


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Re: [OT] Web based HyperCard

[Bob Sneidar via use-livecode]

Imagine showing someone this, then telling them there is a fully functional 
application development environment very much like it. Also, nostalgia comes to 
mind. 

Bob S


> On Mar 27, 2018, at 01:28 , Richmond Mathewson via use-livecode 
>  wrote:
> 
> Undoubtedly very clever, but I do wonder what the purpose of it is.
> 
> Richmond.


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invitation to an openEHR conference that'll feature a LiveCode-built app

[Dave Kilroy via use-livecode]

Apologies for cross posting...

Those of you who don't use the forum please consider clicking this link: 
http://forums.livecode.com/viewtopic.php?f=30=30799=165512#p165512

Those of you who do use the form - you'll have already seen the thread and
can move on...

Kind regards

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Re: [OT] Web based HyperCard

[Keith Martin via use-livecode]

On 27 Mar 2018, at 14:28, Rick Harrison via use-livecode wrote:


Tell us about it again once it is full color and not just B


When he has the Colorizing HC XCMD simulated? ;)

But seriously, while I don't see a hard-nosed practical use for this it 
is an astounding feat!


k

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Re: gather windows

[Mike Kerner via use-livecode]

ah yes thanks

On Tue, Mar 27, 2018 at 9:55 AM, panagiotis merakos via use-livecode <
use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:

> You mean this?
>
> http://forums.livecode.com/viewtopic.php?t=30265
>
> Best,
> Panos
> --
>
> On Tue, Mar 27, 2018 at 2:44 PM, Mike Kerner via use-livecode <
> use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:
>
> > didn't someone write a stack for gathering all windows after a
> > multi-monitor fiasco?
> >
> > --
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variable xref

[Mike Kerner via use-livecode]

Has anyone written a script to go through a stack and xref the variables?

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Re: gather windows

[panagiotis merakos via use-livecode]

You mean this?

http://forums.livecode.com/viewtopic.php?t=30265

Best,
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On Tue, Mar 27, 2018 at 2:44 PM, Mike Kerner via use-livecode <
use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:

> didn't someone write a stack for gathering all windows after a
> multi-monitor fiasco?
>
> --
> On the first day, God created the heavens and the Earth
> On the second day, God created the oceans.
> On the third day, God put the animals on hold for a few hours,
>and did a little diving.
> And God said, "This is good."
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gather windows

[Mike Kerner via use-livecode]

didn't someone write a stack for gathering all windows after a
multi-monitor fiasco?

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Re: [OT] Web based HyperCard

[Rick Harrison via use-livecode]

Hi Scott,

Tell us about it again once it is full color and not just B

Thanks,

Rick

> On Mar 27, 2018, at 1:36 AM, scott--- via use-livecode 
>  wrote:
> 
> This may be of interest to some of you (old) HyperCard folks.
> 
> "ViperCard in an open source re-creation and re-imagination of 1987’s 
> HyperCard.”  It runs in a web browser (not Safari, apparently but Firefox 
> seemed to work well)
> 
> https://www.vipercard.net/
> 
> It is still version 0.2 but the paint tools, button, field and script window 
> are working as you might expect. (Plus a lot of documentation!) I was amazed 
> by what it could do and how closely it followed the old HyperCard look. 
> ViperCard is the work of Ben Fisher, who I had the great pleasure of 
> introducing to HyperCard back in the day… when he was 8 years old and a 
> student in my third grade class.  Way cool!
> 
> Scott Morrow
> 


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Re: [OT] Web based HyperCard

[Colin Holgate via use-livecode]

It seems to fully work in Safari on Mac, but he hasn’t prevented the page 
scroll, so some things don’t work on iPad.
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Re: [OT] Web based HyperCard

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Could only see a black screen when opening in Safari on OS 10.9.

Craig Newman



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Re: [OT] Web based HyperCard

[Richmond Mathewson via use-livecode]

Undoubtedly very clever, but I do wonder what the purpose of it is.

Richmond.

On 27/3/2018 8:36 am, scott--- via use-livecode wrote:

This may be of interest to some of you (old) HyperCard folks.

"ViperCard in an open source re-creation and re-imagination of 1987’s 
HyperCard.”  It runs in a web browser (not Safari, apparently but Firefox seemed to 
work well)

https://www.vipercard.net/

It is still version 0.2 but the paint tools, button, field and script window 
are working as you might expect. (Plus a lot of documentation!) I was amazed by 
what it could do and how closely it followed the old HyperCard look. ViperCard 
is the work of Ben Fisher, who I had the great pleasure of introducing to 
HyperCard back in the day… when he was 8 years old and a student in my third 
grade class.  Way cool!

Scott Morrow

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(Now with 20% less chalk dust!)
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