Re: LiveCode won't recognize my stack

2019-12-27 Thread Richard Gaskin via use-livecode
LiveCode will recognize any stack file of the same or earlier version of 
the engine attempting to access it, regardless of file extension.


Must be something else going on with that...

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Re: mobile dev confusion

2019-12-27 Thread Jjs via use-livecode
Choose Android 4.1.2 in the build settings then it will probably be 99% of all 
devices. But 6% is very low. Did you also provide an apk for armv8, arm64? If 
i'm correct the x86 are not of interest anymore, it was a short wave of intel 
mobile processors, correct me if i'm wrong.

Tom Glod via use-livecode  schreef op 28 
december 2019 04:09:16 CET:
>"The Spiritual Workout" app was created in LiveCode...and I'm running
>it on
>Android 7.0 phones  and it works fine. And as far as I can tell
>that is
>a recently built app.
>
>Sooo...what must I do to have my app run on older versions of android
>(and
>iOS I guess)???
>
>So confused.
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Re: LiveCode won't recognize my stack

2019-12-27 Thread Bill Vlahos via use-livecode
Mark,

It is both the name of the stack and file name.

I’d really rather not have to rename the license key file name. It would be 
better to figure out how LiveCode could work like it used to.

Thanks,
Bill


> On Dec 27, 2019, at 5:08 PM, Mark Wieder via use-livecode 
>  wrote:
> 
> On 12/27/19 2:51 PM, Bill Vlahos via use-livecode wrote:
>> List,
>> Version 9.x of LiveCode doesn’t recognize stacks unless the file name ends 
>> with either .rev or .livecode. Previous versions (I don’t know when this 
>> changed) were able to.
>> I use a stack file as the Preferences file for InfoWallet but the file name 
>> is “LicenseKey.IW”. When I execute the following command to read custom 
>> properties in the stack it fails with an error. Type: Chunk: can't find stack
>> put the uDefaultWallet of stack "LicenseKey.IW" into vDefault
> 
> Is that the name of the stack or the stack *file*?
> If it's a filename then you'll have to load it into memory, change it, and 
> save it.
> 
> It's things like this that got me to store preferences in text files.
> 
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Re: mobile dev confusion

2019-12-27 Thread Tom Glod via use-livecode
"The Spiritual Workout" app was created in LiveCode...and I'm running it on
Android 7.0 phones  and it works fine. And as far as I can tell that is
a recently built app.

Sooo...what must I do to have my app run on older versions of android (and
iOS I guess)???

So confused.
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mobile dev confusion

2019-12-27 Thread Tom Glod via use-livecode
Hi folks, I'm following this tutorial

http://lessons.livecode.com/m/4069/l/985962-livecode-and-android-studio

and i've installed android 8.0 SDK as specified 

 the distribution chart says that only 6% of devices have this version of
android.

Does this mean only 6% of devices will be able to correctly install my
application?

?

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Re: LiveCode won't recognize my stack

2019-12-27 Thread Mark Wieder via use-livecode

On 12/27/19 2:51 PM, Bill Vlahos via use-livecode wrote:

List,

Version 9.x of LiveCode doesn’t recognize stacks unless the file name ends with 
either .rev or .livecode. Previous versions (I don’t know when this changed) 
were able to.

I use a stack file as the Preferences file for InfoWallet but the file name is 
“LicenseKey.IW”. When I execute the following command to read custom properties 
in the stack it fails with an error. Type: Chunk: can't find stack

put the uDefaultWallet of stack "LicenseKey.IW" into vDefault


Is that the name of the stack or the stack *file*?
If it's a filename then you'll have to load it into memory, change it, 
and save it.


It's things like this that got me to store preferences in text files.

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Re: A Windows 10 WTF

2019-12-27 Thread Tom Glod via use-livecode
Nope..its not sharing any resources, each one runs isolated in its own
folder.  Yep... you can set affinity manually using the task manager.

The only thing shared between them is the name of the stack window...I
guess I'll test that first.

This is weird and I don't like it . but it only affects me I guess. :)
Thanks everyone for trying.

On Fri, Dec 27, 2019 at 11:17 AM Bob Sneidar via use-livecode <
use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:

> That's a thought. Also, there used to be a way to set the affinity of an
> application to prefer or only run on one core. This was in the early days
> of multi-cores where apps might not be multicore aware. Not sure if this is
> a thing anymore.
>
> Bob S
>
>
> > On Dec 26, 2019, at 16:15 , Peter Bogdanoff via use-livecode <
> use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:
> >
> > I’m on a quad-core Intel Xeon E5 (Mac Pro) and LC 8 could definitely
> lock up the machine. Only with difficulty could I eventually force LC to
> quit.
> >
> > Peter Bogdanoff
> >
> >
> >> On Dec 26, 2019, at 3:31 PM, Bob Sneidar via use-livecode <
> use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> I ahould have saif multiple cores not both.
> >>
> >>> On Dec 26, 2019, at 14:14 , Bob Sneidar via use-livecode <
> use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> On the machine, or on the core? LC should only be using a single core
> on Multi-core systems. Any other process using that core may be affected,
> but not necessarily processes using the other core. It may be academic
> though, as most apps today are probably using both cores simultaneously.
> >>>
> >>> Bob S
> >>>
> >>>
>  On Dec 26, 2019, at 11:16 , J. Landman Gay via use-livecode <
> use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:
> 
>  It may be the issue with repeat loops that do not yield to the engine
> periodically. This was an issue all the way back to MetaCard and I am not
> sure if it has been changed since then.
> 
>  Basicaly, running a lengthy repeat loop locks up the entire CPU until
> the loop exits. If this is the problem then it isn't just your standalone
> that comes to a halt, it's everything currently running on the machine.
> >>>
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Re: LiveCode won't recognize my stack

2019-12-27 Thread Bill Vlahos via use-livecode
Peter,

I don’t want to open or go to that stack. It is like a preferences stack. I 
want to get and set custom properties of it.

Regards,
Bill

> On Dec 27, 2019, at 4:28 PM, Peter Bogdanoff via use-livecode 
>  wrote:
> 
> Hi Bill,
> 
> In LC 9.04 issue a command
> 
> go stack tURL
> 
> where tURL is the directory path and it opens the stacks. My stacks don’t 
> have a suffix at all.
> 
> Peter Bogdanoff 
> 
> 
> 
>> On Dec 27, 2019, at 5:51 PM, Bill Vlahos via use-livecode 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> List,
>> 
>> Version 9.x of LiveCode doesn’t recognize stacks unless the file name ends 
>> with either .rev or .livecode. Previous versions (I don’t know when this 
>> changed) were able to.
>> 
>> I use a stack file as the Preferences file for InfoWallet but the file name 
>> is “LicenseKey.IW”. When I execute the following command to read custom 
>> properties in the stack it fails with an error. Type: Chunk: can't find stack
>> 
>> put the uDefaultWallet of stack "LicenseKey.IW" into vDefault
>> 
>> 
>> I can also see this when opening a stack from LiveCode. the LicenseKey.IW 
>> file is greyed out unless I look for All Files when then opens it correctly.
>> 
>> How can I open the stack file in LiveCode 9.5.1 without changing the name of 
>> the file?
>> 
>> Thank you,
>> Bill Vlahos
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Re: LiveCode won't recognize my stack

2019-12-27 Thread Peter Bogdanoff via use-livecode
Hi Bill,

In LC 9.04 issue a command

go stack tURL

where tURL is the directory path and it opens the stacks. My stacks don’t have 
a suffix at all.

Peter Bogdanoff 



> On Dec 27, 2019, at 5:51 PM, Bill Vlahos via use-livecode 
>  wrote:
> 
> List,
> 
> Version 9.x of LiveCode doesn’t recognize stacks unless the file name ends 
> with either .rev or .livecode. Previous versions (I don’t know when this 
> changed) were able to.
> 
> I use a stack file as the Preferences file for InfoWallet but the file name 
> is “LicenseKey.IW”. When I execute the following command to read custom 
> properties in the stack it fails with an error. Type: Chunk: can't find stack
> 
> put the uDefaultWallet of stack "LicenseKey.IW" into vDefault
> 
> 
> I can also see this when opening a stack from LiveCode. the LicenseKey.IW 
> file is greyed out unless I look for All Files when then opens it correctly.
> 
> How can I open the stack file in LiveCode 9.5.1 without changing the name of 
> the file?
> 
> Thank you,
> Bill Vlahos
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Re: LiveCode won't recognize my stack

2019-12-27 Thread hh via use-livecode
This works here:

go stack url("binfile:/Users/admin/xstacks/selectiveGray6789.IW")

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LiveCode won't recognize my stack

2019-12-27 Thread Bill Vlahos via use-livecode
List,

Version 9.x of LiveCode doesn’t recognize stacks unless the file name ends with 
either .rev or .livecode. Previous versions (I don’t know when this changed) 
were able to.

I use a stack file as the Preferences file for InfoWallet but the file name is 
“LicenseKey.IW”. When I execute the following command to read custom properties 
in the stack it fails with an error. Type: Chunk: can't find stack

put the uDefaultWallet of stack "LicenseKey.IW" into vDefault


I can also see this when opening a stack from LiveCode. the LicenseKey.IW file 
is greyed out unless I look for All Files when then opens it correctly.

How can I open the stack file in LiveCode 9.5.1 without changing the name of 
the file?

Thank you,
Bill Vlahos
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Re: How to "save" the IDE stack

2019-12-27 Thread Mark Wieder via use-livecode

On 12/27/19 5:58 AM, Sannyasin Brahmanathaswami via use-livecode wrote:

Suddenly on my multi-monitor set up

RevMenuBar appears left monitor: topLeft -1023,200
RevNavigator appear left monitor:  topLeft  -420,442
RevTool  on the "bottom" monitor: topLeft  43,1456

OK so I can, from the message box, do this:

set the topleft of stack revMenubar to 0,20

   and it works. but

save stack revMenubar

Doesn't do anything, and, on reboot, the IDE stack still show up on different 
monitors at the same place


Toss the preferences stack and let lc rebuild it.

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Re: Polygon Side Does Note Match to Polygon rect

2019-12-27 Thread Richmond via use-livecode

This is similar to a problem I've had with hexagons.

Probably the best thing is NOT to use the Regular Polygon Tool but to
define your own triangles using a Polygon Graphic where you set the points.

Richmond.

On 27.12.19 17:30, Sannyasin Brahmanathaswami via use-livecode wrote:

Regular Polygon Tool:

If you create a triangle grc and set its width and height to 243pt

the tool positions the top of the triangle to center of the top line of the 
rect and leaves margins on the left and right sides. Thus, the triangle itself 
doesn't take the width of 243pt. It like ist has margins left and right…

how to does have precise control over the size of the triangle (not the rect)?

right now I have to build a "measuring grc/ruler" underneath, set it width to 243, and 
fiddle with the triangle until it matches my "ruler"

BR


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Doc bug OR htmlText bug?

2019-12-27 Thread Paul Dupuis via use-livecode

LC List Hive Mind:

See https://quality.livecode.com/show_bug.cgi?id=22517 - a reported 
discrepancy between teh Dictionary documentation on htmlText and what is 
actually returned by getting "the effective htmlText" of a field.


I think for an attempt at consistency with HTML attributes, what is 
returned should be changed to match what is documented. Of course, it 
would be less disruptive and easier to change the docs. Folks who work 
with parsing htmltext from an LC field by tags and attributes may want 
to weight in.




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Re: Polygon Side Does Note Match to Polygon rect

2019-12-27 Thread hh via use-livecode
A triangle with width=height is NOT a regular polygon (it doesn't have equal 
side length).

To have what you want create a grc of type "polygon" and then

set points of grc 1 to "0,0,10,-10,20,0,0,0"
set width of grc 1 to 243
set height of grc 1 to 243

To have equal sideLength you set the width to 243/sin(pi/3).


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Re: A Windows 10 WTF

2019-12-27 Thread Bob Sneidar via use-livecode
That's a thought. Also, there used to be a way to set the affinity of an 
application to prefer or only run on one core. This was in the early days of 
multi-cores where apps might not be multicore aware. Not sure if this is a 
thing anymore. 

Bob S


> On Dec 26, 2019, at 16:15 , Peter Bogdanoff via use-livecode 
>  wrote:
> 
> I’m on a quad-core Intel Xeon E5 (Mac Pro) and LC 8 could definitely lock up 
> the machine. Only with difficulty could I eventually force LC to quit.
> 
> Peter Bogdanoff
> 
> 
>> On Dec 26, 2019, at 3:31 PM, Bob Sneidar via use-livecode 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> I ahould have saif multiple cores not both. 
>> 
>>> On Dec 26, 2019, at 14:14 , Bob Sneidar via use-livecode 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> On the machine, or on the core? LC should only be using a single core on 
>>> Multi-core systems. Any other process using that core may be affected, but 
>>> not necessarily processes using the other core. It may be academic though, 
>>> as most apps today are probably using both cores simultaneously. 
>>> 
>>> Bob S
>>> 
>>> 
 On Dec 26, 2019, at 11:16 , J. Landman Gay via use-livecode 
  wrote:
 
 It may be the issue with repeat loops that do not yield to the engine 
 periodically. This was an issue all the way back to MetaCard and I am not 
 sure if it has been changed since then.
 
 Basicaly, running a lengthy repeat loop locks up the entire CPU until the 
 loop exits. If this is the problem then it isn't just your standalone that 
 comes to a halt, it's everything currently running on the machine.
>>> 
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Re: Polygon Side Does Note Match to Polygon rect

2019-12-27 Thread Bob Sneidar via use-livecode
Can you set the margins to 0?

Bob S


> On Dec 27, 2019, at 07:30 , Sannyasin Brahmanathaswami via use-livecode 
>  wrote:
> 
> Regular Polygon Tool:
> 
> If you create a triangle grc and set its width and height to 243pt
> 
> the tool positions the top of the triangle to center of the top line of the 
> rect and leaves margins on the left and right sides. Thus, the triangle 
> itself doesn't take the width of 243pt. It like ist has margins left and 
> right…
> 
> how to does have precise control over the size of the triangle (not the rect)?
> 
> right now I have to build a "measuring grc/ruler" underneath, set it width to 
> 243, and fiddle with the triangle until it matches my "ruler"
> 
> BR

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Re: Polygon Side Does Note Match to Polygon rect

2019-12-27 Thread Brian Milby via use-livecode
The center (loc) of the rect is the center of the triangle.  So to get a 
triangle of width W, you need to set the height and width of the grc to 
2*W/sqrt(3).

Thanks,
Brian
On Dec 27, 2019, 10:31 AM -0500, Sannyasin Brahmanathaswami via use-livecode 
, wrote:
> Regular Polygon Tool:
>
> If you create a triangle grc and set its width and height to 243pt
>
> the tool positions the top of the triangle to center of the top line of the 
> rect and leaves margins on the left and right sides. Thus, the triangle 
> itself doesn't take the width of 243pt. It like ist has margins left and 
> right…
>
> how to does have precise control over the size of the triangle (not the rect)?
>
> right now I have to build a "measuring grc/ruler" underneath, set it width to 
> 243, and fiddle with the triangle until it matches my "ruler"
>
> BR
>
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Polygon Side Does Note Match to Polygon rect

2019-12-27 Thread Sannyasin Brahmanathaswami via use-livecode
Regular Polygon Tool:

If you create a triangle grc and set its width and height to 243pt

the tool positions the top of the triangle to center of the top line of the 
rect and leaves margins on the left and right sides. Thus, the triangle itself 
doesn't take the width of 243pt. It like ist has margins left and right…

how to does have precise control over the size of the triangle (not the rect)?

right now I have to build a "measuring grc/ruler" underneath, set it width to 
243, and fiddle with the triangle until it matches my "ruler"

BR


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Re: How to "save" the IDE stack

2019-12-27 Thread Richmond via use-livecode

Probably the best thing to do is to store those instructions in a stack
which you save as a plugin to run at every start up of LiveCode.

Yes, I know that's a bother . . .

Richmond.

On 27.12.19 15:58, Sannyasin Brahmanathaswami via use-livecode wrote:

Suddenly on my multi-monitor set up

RevMenuBar appears left monitor: topLeft -1023,200
RevNavigator appear left monitor:  topLeft  -420,442
RevTool  on the "bottom" monitor: topLeft  43,1456

OK so I can, from the message box, do this:

set the topleft of stack revMenubar to 0,20

   and it works. but

save stack revMenubar

Doesn't do anything, and, on reboot, the IDE stack still show up on different 
monitors at the same place

BR





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How to "save" the IDE stack

2019-12-27 Thread Sannyasin Brahmanathaswami via use-livecode
Suddenly on my multi-monitor set up 

RevMenuBar appears left monitor: topLeft -1023,200
RevNavigator appear left monitor:  topLeft  -420,442
RevTool  on the "bottom" monitor: topLeft  43,1456

OK so I can, from the message box, do this:

set the topleft of stack revMenubar to 0,20

  and it works. but

save stack revMenubar 

Doesn't do anything, and, on reboot, the IDE stack still show up on different 
monitors at the same place

BR





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RE: A Windows 10 WTF

2019-12-27 Thread Ralph DiMola via use-livecode
Is there a common resource that both processes are using? Maybe there on 2 
different cores but a file locking, database or some similar issue is causing 
the standalone to lock up.

Ralph DiMola
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From: use-livecode [mailto:use-livecode-boun...@lists.runrev.com] On Behalf Of 
Tom Glod via use-livecode
Sent: Thursday, December 26, 2019 8:41 PM
To: How to use LiveCode
Cc: Tom Glod
Subject: Re: A Windows 10 WTF

I've tested this by locking up a core using the IDE by putting it in a loop.

But no other process gets locked up, because my OS correctly does not assign 
the busy core to any other process.  So all other applications and windows are 
still responsive.

EXCEPT in a situation when the Livecode IDE is running a particular stack AND 
there is a Standalone version of that stack running at the same time.
(these 2 are seperate processes BUT..)

In that case  the system is assigning both the standalone and the IDE (and 
its running stack) to the same core.and both of them become unresponsive.

My question is why there is a correlation between the two, and why the 
standalone isn't being assigned one of the other 3 available coresbut 
always the same core as the IDE.

If its a different stack open in the IDE... the standalone is correctly 
assigned to another core.

I don't know how else to explain the problem.  Forgive me if I am not clearly 
explaining it.




On Thu, Dec 26, 2019 at 7:15 PM Peter Bogdanoff via use-livecode < 
use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:

> I’m on a quad-core Intel Xeon E5 (Mac Pro) and LC 8 could definitely 
> lock up the machine. Only with difficulty could I eventually force LC to quit.
>
> Peter Bogdanoff
>
>
> > On Dec 26, 2019, at 3:31 PM, Bob Sneidar via use-livecode <
> use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:
> >
> > I ahould have saif multiple cores not both.
> >
> >> On Dec 26, 2019, at 14:14 , Bob Sneidar via use-livecode <
> use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> On the machine, or on the core? LC should only be using a single 
> >> core
> on Multi-core systems. Any other process using that core may be 
> affected, but not necessarily processes using the other core. It may 
> be academic though, as most apps today are probably using both cores 
> simultaneously.
> >>
> >> Bob S
> >>
> >>
> >>> On Dec 26, 2019, at 11:16 , J. Landman Gay via use-livecode <
> use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> It may be the issue with repeat loops that do not yield to the 
> >>> engine
> periodically. This was an issue all the way back to MetaCard and I am 
> not sure if it has been changed since then.
> >>>
> >>> Basicaly, running a lengthy repeat loop locks up the entire CPU 
> >>> until
> the loop exits. If this is the problem then it isn't just your 
> standalone that comes to a halt, it's everything currently running on the 
> machine.
> >>
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