Re: What have I done now ? (aka CR and LF confusion)

[Brian Milby via use-livecode]

You need to use binfile on Mac to get sane line endings.  I have a PR to fix, 
but doubt it will get merged.

On Mac/Windows, file will convert line endings to what LC thinks is the native 
one for the OS.  CRLF for Windows and CR for Mac (the real CR, not the one that 
LC uses internally where CR and LF are synonyms for LF).  So on Linux you can 
use either file or binfile, on Windows you need to use file, and on Mac you 
need to use binfile to get the currently expected line endings.

Thanks,
Brian
On May 27, 2020, 9:24 PM -0400, Alex Tweedly via use-livecode 
, wrote:
> I don't know if I've done something to my LC prefs, or to my Mac, or to
> myself :-)
>
> the following script
>
> > on mouseUp
> >    local t
> >    put "asd" & CR & "qwe" & CR & "zxc"  into t
> >    put t into URL ("file:/Users/alextweedly/tiny.txt")
> > end mouseUp
> does create a file - but that file can't be (easily, properly) used by
> some other Mac apps, because all the end-of-line characters are 0x0d
> (i.e. numtochar(13)). So unix utilities like wc, cat, grep, more, ...
> won't deal with it properly - though emacs, Sublime, Coda2, etc. do ok.
>
> If I create the same file in an editor (emacs, Sublime Text, ...) they
> all produce e-o-l characters which are 0x0A (i.e. numtochar(10)), and
> this works in both editors and utilities mentioned above, as well as LC.
>
> Maybe it's always been like this ??
>
> I don't know - I just noticed because I tried to 'grep' for some
> characters in all files within a folder, and didn't find anything
> (though I should have done).
>
> SO I can get by - just avoid using any files created within LC with any
> other apps - but I'd rather find out if I should be doing something
> different, or if I've accidentally changed some setting that causes this.
>
> Thanks for any thoughts,
>
> Alex.
>
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What have I done now ? (aka CR and LF confusion)

[Alex Tweedly via use-livecode]

I don't know if I've done something to my LC prefs, or to my Mac, or to 
myself :-)


the following script


on mouseUp
   local t
   put "asd" & CR & "qwe" & CR & "zxc"  into t
   put t into URL ("file:/Users/alextweedly/tiny.txt")
end mouseUp
does create a file - but that file can't be (easily, properly) used by 
some other Mac apps, because all the end-of-line characters are 0x0d 
(i.e. numtochar(13)). So unix utilities like wc, cat, grep, more, ... 
won't deal with it properly - though emacs, Sublime, Coda2, etc. do ok.


If I create the same file in an editor (emacs, Sublime Text, ...) they 
all produce e-o-l characters which are 0x0A (i.e. numtochar(10)), and 
this works in both editors and utilities mentioned above, as well as LC.


Maybe it's always been like this ??

I don't know - I just noticed because I tried to 'grep' for some 
characters in all files within a folder, and didn't find anything 
(though I should have done).


SO I can get by - just avoid using any files created within LC with any 
other apps - but I'd rather find out if I should be doing something 
different, or if I've accidentally changed some setting that causes this.


Thanks for any thoughts,

Alex.


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Re: LiveCode Server Under MAMP

[Håkan Liljegren via use-livecode]

I have done that some time ago, nowadays I usually use MAMP Pro if I need more 
sophistication. But I’ll make a try to find it..

:-Håkan
On 27 May 2020, 17:50 +0200, Rick Harrison via use-livecode 
, wrote:
> Did you get MAMP to work with SSL?
>
> If you do, let me know as then you might catch my interest.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Rick
>
> > On May 27, 2020, at 11:44 AM, Håkan Liljegren via use-livecode 
> >  wrote:
> >
> > Ouch,
> >
> > Hit send to early, new try:
> >
> > Hi,
> >
> > I was trying to get LiveCode server up and running under MAMP in macOS 
> > Catalina and if anyone is interested. This is what I did to get it running.
> >
> > 1. Download and unpack LiveCode Server
> > 2. Move livecode-server, drivers folder and externals folder into the 
> > cgi-bin folder in MAMP. ( /Applications/MAMP/cgi-bin if you have a standard 
> > installation )
> > 3. Open up /Applications/MAMP/conf/apache/httpd.conf
> > 4. Find the  section and just before 
> > the  you add:
> > AddHandler livecode-script .lc
> > Action livecode-script /livecode-cgi/livecode-server
> > NOTE: IF your have the community server you should replace livecode-server 
> > with livecode-community-server
> > 5. Just after  add a new line with:
> > ScriptAlias /livecode-cgi/livecode-server 
> > /Applications/MAMP/cgi-bin/livecode-server
> > Again replace livecode-server with livecode-community-server if you use the 
> > community version.
> > 6. Now if you restart MAMP and add a .lc file into your web folder and 
> > tries to access it, you will se a prompt that says that livecode-server 
> > can’t be trusted with no options to allow.
> > 7. To allow unnotarized applications under MacOS you need to right-click 
> > the application and select open. You will then get a prompt where you have 
> > an “Open” button. If you click that you will get another prompt asking for 
> > an admin user and password. Fill in and continue.
> > 8. Now you finally have to repeat the procedure for every lib (i.e. every 
> > file in the drivers and the externals folder. But if you do them in 
> > succession you will probably not get the admin prompt more than once.
> > 9. Now you should have a local web development under MAMP with livecode 
> > server up and running!
> >
> > There is also a command line option for point 7 (and 8) above and that is 
> > to use:
> > spctl --add /Applications/MAMP/cgi-bin/livecode-server
> > You will get the same prompt for admin user unless you do
> > sudo spctl …
> >
> > So, no there is no excuse for not starting to use LiveCode for your next 
> > web project ;)
> >
> > Happy Coding!
> >
> > :-Håkan
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Re: LiveCode Server Under MAMP

[Håkan Liljegren via use-livecode]

Not at all! Go ahead.

:-Håkan
On 27 May 2020, 18:14 +0200, matthias rebbe via use-livecode 
, wrote:
> Håkan,
>
> would you mind if i take your steps and create a detailed Livecode Lesson 
> with it?
>
>
> -
> Matthias Rebbe
> Life Is Too Short For Boring Code
>
> > Am 27.05.2020 um 17:44 schrieb Håkan Liljegren via use-livecode 
> > :
> >
> > Ouch,
> >
> > Hit send to early, new try:
> >
> > Hi,
> >
> > I was trying to get LiveCode server up and running under MAMP in macOS 
> > Catalina and if anyone is interested. This is what I did to get it running.
> >
> > 1. Download and unpack LiveCode Server
> > 2. Move livecode-server, drivers folder and externals folder into the 
> > cgi-bin folder in MAMP. ( /Applications/MAMP/cgi-bin if you have a standard 
> > installation )
> > 3. Open up /Applications/MAMP/conf/apache/httpd.conf
> > 4. Find the  section and just before 
> > the  you add:
> > AddHandler livecode-script .lc
> > Action livecode-script /livecode-cgi/livecode-server
> > NOTE: IF your have the community server you should replace livecode-server 
> > with livecode-community-server
> > 5. Just after  add a new line with:
> > ScriptAlias /livecode-cgi/livecode-server 
> > /Applications/MAMP/cgi-bin/livecode-server
> > Again replace livecode-server with livecode-community-server if you use the 
> > community version.
> > 6. Now if you restart MAMP and add a .lc file into your web folder and 
> > tries to access it, you will se a prompt that says that livecode-server 
> > can’t be trusted with no options to allow.
> > 7. To allow unnotarized applications under MacOS you need to right-click 
> > the application and select open. You will then get a prompt where you have 
> > an “Open” button. If you click that you will get another prompt asking for 
> > an admin user and password. Fill in and continue.
> > 8. Now you finally have to repeat the procedure for every lib (i.e. every 
> > file in the drivers and the externals folder. But if you do them in 
> > succession you will probably not get the admin prompt more than once.
> > 9. Now you should have a local web development under MAMP with livecode 
> > server up and running!
> >
> > There is also a command line option for point 7 (and 8) above and that is 
> > to use:
> > spctl --add /Applications/MAMP/cgi-bin/livecode-server
> > You will get the same prompt for admin user unless you do
> > sudo spctl …
> >
> > So, no there is no excuse for not starting to use LiveCode for your next 
> > web project ;)
> >
> > Happy Coding!
> >
> > :-Håkan
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Re: LiveCode Server Under MAMP

[matthias rebbe via use-livecode]

Håkan,

would you mind if i take your steps and create a detailed  Livecode Lesson with 
it?


-
Matthias Rebbe
Life Is Too Short For Boring Code

> Am 27.05.2020 um 17:44 schrieb Håkan Liljegren via use-livecode 
> :
> 
> Ouch,
> 
> Hit send to early, new try:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> I was trying to get LiveCode server up and running under MAMP in macOS 
> Catalina and if anyone is interested. This is what I did to get it running.
> 
> 1. Download and unpack LiveCode Server
> 2. Move livecode-server, drivers folder and externals folder into the cgi-bin 
> folder in MAMP. ( /Applications/MAMP/cgi-bin if you have a standard 
> installation )
> 3. Open up /Applications/MAMP/conf/apache/httpd.conf
> 4. Find the  section and just before 
> the  you add:
> AddHandler livecode-script .lc
> Action livecode-script /livecode-cgi/livecode-server
> NOTE: IF your have the community server you should replace livecode-server 
> with livecode-community-server
> 5. Just after  add a new line with:
> ScriptAlias /livecode-cgi/livecode-server 
> /Applications/MAMP/cgi-bin/livecode-server
> Again replace livecode-server with livecode-community-server if you use the 
> community version.
> 6. Now if you restart MAMP and add a .lc file into your web folder and tries 
> to access it, you will se a prompt that says that livecode-server can’t be 
> trusted with no options to allow.
> 7. To allow unnotarized applications under MacOS you need to right-click the 
> application and select open. You will then get a prompt where you have an 
> “Open” button. If you click that you will get another prompt asking for an 
> admin user and password. Fill in and continue.
> 8. Now you finally have to repeat the procedure for every lib (i.e. every 
> file in the drivers and the externals folder. But if you do them in 
> succession you will probably not get the admin prompt more than once.
> 9. Now you should have a local web development under MAMP with livecode 
> server up and running!
> 
> There is also a command line option for point 7 (and 8) above and that is to 
> use:
> spctl --add /Applications/MAMP/cgi-bin/livecode-server
> You will get the same prompt for admin user unless you do
> sudo spctl …
> 
> So, no there is no excuse for not starting to use LiveCode for your next web 
> project ;)
> 
> Happy Coding!
> 
> :-Håkan
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Re: LiveCode Server Under MAMP

[Rick Harrison via use-livecode]

Did you get MAMP to work with SSL?

If you do, let me know as then you might catch my interest.

Thanks,

Rick

> On May 27, 2020, at 11:44 AM, Håkan Liljegren via use-livecode 
>  wrote:
> 
> Ouch,
> 
> Hit send to early, new try:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> I was trying to get LiveCode server up and running under MAMP in macOS 
> Catalina and if anyone is interested. This is what I did to get it running.
> 
> 1. Download and unpack LiveCode Server
> 2. Move livecode-server, drivers folder and externals folder into the cgi-bin 
> folder in MAMP. ( /Applications/MAMP/cgi-bin if you have a standard 
> installation )
> 3. Open up /Applications/MAMP/conf/apache/httpd.conf
> 4. Find the  section and just before 
> the  you add:
> AddHandler livecode-script .lc
> Action livecode-script /livecode-cgi/livecode-server
> NOTE: IF your have the community server you should replace livecode-server 
> with livecode-community-server
> 5. Just after  add a new line with:
> ScriptAlias /livecode-cgi/livecode-server 
> /Applications/MAMP/cgi-bin/livecode-server
> Again replace livecode-server with livecode-community-server if you use the 
> community version.
> 6. Now if you restart MAMP and add a .lc file into your web folder and tries 
> to access it, you will se a prompt that says that livecode-server can’t be 
> trusted with no options to allow.
> 7. To allow unnotarized applications under MacOS you need to right-click the 
> application and select open. You will then get a prompt where you have an 
> “Open” button. If you click that you will get another prompt asking for an 
> admin user and password. Fill in and continue.
> 8. Now you finally have to repeat the procedure for every lib (i.e. every 
> file in the drivers and the externals folder. But if you do them in 
> succession you will probably not get the admin prompt more than once.
> 9. Now you should have a local web development under MAMP with livecode 
> server up and running!
> 
> There is also a command line option for point 7 (and 8) above and that is to 
> use:
> spctl --add /Applications/MAMP/cgi-bin/livecode-server
> You will get the same prompt for admin user unless you do
> sudo spctl …
> 
> So, no there is no excuse for not starting to use LiveCode for your next web 
> project ;)
> 
> Happy Coding!
> 
> :-Håkan
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LiveCode Server Under MAMP

[Håkan Liljegren via use-livecode]

Ouch,

Hit send to early, new try:

Hi,

I was trying to get LiveCode server up and running under MAMP in macOS Catalina 
and if anyone is interested. This is what I did to get it running.

1. Download and unpack LiveCode Server
2. Move livecode-server, drivers folder and externals folder into the cgi-bin 
folder in MAMP. ( /Applications/MAMP/cgi-bin if you have a standard 
installation )
3. Open up /Applications/MAMP/conf/apache/httpd.conf
4. Find the  section and just before the 
 you add:
AddHandler livecode-script .lc
Action livecode-script /livecode-cgi/livecode-server
NOTE: IF your have the community server you should replace livecode-server with 
livecode-community-server
5. Just after  add a new line with:
ScriptAlias /livecode-cgi/livecode-server 
/Applications/MAMP/cgi-bin/livecode-server
Again replace livecode-server with livecode-community-server if you use the 
community version.
6. Now if you restart MAMP and add a .lc file into your web folder and tries to 
access it, you will se a prompt that says that livecode-server can’t be trusted 
with no options to allow.
7. To allow unnotarized applications under MacOS you need to right-click the 
application and select open. You will then get a prompt where you have an 
“Open” button. If you click that you will get another prompt asking for an 
admin user and password. Fill in and continue.
8. Now you finally have to repeat the procedure for every lib (i.e. every file 
in the drivers and the externals folder. But if you do them in succession you 
will probably not get the admin prompt more than once.
9. Now you should have a local web development under MAMP with livecode server 
up and running!

There is also a command line option for point 7 (and 8) above and that is to 
use:
spctl --add /Applications/MAMP/cgi-bin/livecode-server
You will get the same prompt for admin user unless you do
sudo spctl …

So, no there is no excuse for not starting to use LiveCode for your next web 
project ;)

Happy Coding!

:-Håkan
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LiveCode Server not notarized?

[Håkan Liljegren via use-livecode]

Hi,

I was trying to get LiveCode server up and running under MAMP in macOS Catalina 
and if anyone is interested. This is what I did to get it running.

1. Download and unpack LiveCode Server
2. Move livecode-server, drivers folder and externals folder into the cgi-bin 
folder in MAMP. ( /Applications/MAMP/cgi-bin if you have a standard 
installation )
3. Open up /Applications/MAMP/conf/apache/httpd.conf
4. Find the  section and just before the 
 you add:
AddHandler livecode-script .lc
Action livecode-script /livecode-cgi/livecode-server

Added
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Re: Licencing files for LC 9.6.0 rc-2

[Richmond via use-livecode]

Thank you very much.

On 27.05.20 12:17, Heather Laine via use-livecode wrote:

Scroll down the list of downloads, below the fold. You will find all the test 
releases including 9.6.0 rc2. We forced rc1 to the top because the current 
stable release, 9.5.1, is not signed for Catalina and was causing problems for 
new users.

Best Regards,

Heather


On 26 May 2020, at 20:07, Richmond via use-livecode 
 wrote:

Offline activation files for LC 9.6.0 rc-2 don't seem to be available?

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Re: Integrating Desktop or mobile application with LMS using LTI 1.3

[Håkan Liljegren via use-livecode]

I don't think LTI is dead at all, most mayor LMSs support LTI today in one way 
on another. I'm also looking into this as we are using the Canvas LMS at our 
university (where I have my day-work) so I'm definitely interested in some 
participation in a LiveCode LTI library. I've just started my work so no code 
yet though...

Best wishes,

Håkan
On 27 May 2020, 01:34 +0200, William Prothero via use-livecode 
, wrote:
> Martin and Peter:
> I am retired, but still creating one (big) educational application. I thought 
> the LMS integration idea had died a death by silence, so I am so glad you are 
> looking into this. I’m very interested, but have not put forth any effort in 
> this direction.
>
> Please keep me informed about what you find.
> Best,
> Bill
>
> William A. Prothero
> https://earthlearningsolutions.org
>
> > On May 25, 2020, at 3:28 PM, Peter Bogdanoff via use-livecode 
> >  wrote:
> >
> > Hi Martin,
> >
> > I’ve just begun looking into this myself, so I’m also interested in what 
> > anybody knows about this.
> >
> > Peter Bogdanoff
> > ArtsInteractive
> >
> >
> > > On May 25, 2020, at 3:05 PM, Martin Koob via use-livecode 
> > >  wrote:
> > >
> > > Hi list
> > >
> > > I have been researching how to integrate a desktop application created 
> > > with LiveCode with a learning Management system (LMS) like Brightspace by 
> > > D2L, Moodle, Canvas etc. Last time I looked at this SCORM was the 
> > > standard with TinCan( aka xAPI) as a potential successor. This time 
> > > around I found those seem to have been superseded by LTI 1.1 going to LTI 
> > > 1.3.
> > >
> > > In the documents I have found I see that one of the advantages of LTI 1.3 
> > > is that it can be used with desktop and mobile apps. LTI 1.1 only worked 
> > > with web based applications.
> > >
> > > " Mobile Ready—The model is independent of web browsers, a better 
> > > solution for server-to-server, native desktop and mobile applications.”
> > > https://www.imsglobal.org/why-platforms-and-tools-should-adopt-lti-13 
> > > 
> > >
> > > I am looking for examples of people doing this but have not found any 
> > > online.(I don’t want to spend time on idly ddl I looks like it would be 
> > > possible to use it in an LiveCode application. It uses oAuth 2 for 
> > > authentication and JSON for messages both of which are available on the 
> > > the latest version of LiveCode.
> > >
> > > First I just want to confirm it has been done for a desktop application 
> > > in general so I know that is a viable approach for integrating an App 
> > > into an LMS.
> > >
> > > Second I wonder if people have done it using LiveCode.
> > >
> > > Thanks
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Martin Koob
> > >
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Re: Licencing files for LC 9.6.0 rc-2

[Heather Laine via use-livecode]

Scroll down the list of downloads, below the fold. You will find all the test 
releases including 9.6.0 rc2. We forced rc1 to the top because the current 
stable release, 9.5.1, is not signed for Catalina and was causing problems for 
new users.

Best Regards,

Heather

> On 26 May 2020, at 20:07, Richmond via use-livecode 
>  wrote:
> 
> Offline activation files for LC 9.6.0 rc-2 don't seem to be available?
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Re: Integrating Desktop or mobile application with LMS using LTI 1.3

[David Bovill via use-livecode]

Interesting. I looked at this a couple of years ago. Please include me in any 
open source project in that space.
On 27 May 2020, 00:34 +0100, William Prothero via use-livecode 
, wrote:
> Martin and Peter:
> I am retired, but still creating one (big) educational application. I thought 
> the LMS integration idea had died a death by silence, so I am so glad you are 
> looking into this. I’m very interested, but have not put forth any effort in 
> this direction.
>
> Please keep me informed about what you find.
> Best,
> Bill
>
> William A. Prothero
> https://earthlearningsolutions.org
>
> > On May 25, 2020, at 3:28 PM, Peter Bogdanoff via use-livecode 
> >  wrote:
> >
> > Hi Martin,
> >
> > I’ve just begun looking into this myself, so I’m also interested in what 
> > anybody knows about this.
> >
> > Peter Bogdanoff
> > ArtsInteractive
> >
> >
> > > On May 25, 2020, at 3:05 PM, Martin Koob via use-livecode 
> > >  wrote:
> > >
> > > Hi list
> > >
> > > I have been researching how to integrate a desktop application created 
> > > with LiveCode with a learning Management system (LMS) like Brightspace by 
> > > D2L, Moodle, Canvas etc. Last time I looked at this SCORM was the 
> > > standard with TinCan( aka xAPI) as a potential successor. This time 
> > > around I found those seem to have been superseded by LTI 1.1 going to LTI 
> > > 1.3.
> > >
> > > In the documents I have found I see that one of the advantages of LTI 1.3 
> > > is that it can be used with desktop and mobile apps. LTI 1.1 only worked 
> > > with web based applications.
> > >
> > > " Mobile Ready—The model is independent of web browsers, a better 
> > > solution for server-to-server, native desktop and mobile applications.”
> > > https://www.imsglobal.org/why-platforms-and-tools-should-adopt-lti-13 
> > > 
> > >
> > > I am looking for examples of people doing this but have not found any 
> > > online.(I don’t want to spend time on idly ddl I looks like it would be 
> > > possible to use it in an LiveCode application. It uses oAuth 2 for 
> > > authentication and JSON for messages both of which are available on the 
> > > the latest version of LiveCode.
> > >
> > > First I just want to confirm it has been done for a desktop application 
> > > in general so I know that is a viable approach for integrating an App 
> > > into an LMS.
> > >
> > > Second I wonder if people have done it using LiveCode.
> > >
> > > Thanks
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Martin Koob
> > >
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