Re: Question about organization of large projects

2022-02-04 Thread prothero--- via use-livecode
Scott:
Hmm…. I have different stacks in subdirectories of the splash stack. I hadn’t 
realized that all stacks should be in one top directory. That true? The 
specialFolderpath(“Resources”) seems to be relative to each stack, so, in my 
case, if a stack is in a folder that is in the specialFolder path of the splash 
stack, it will have a different specialfolderpath than the splash stack.

I haven’t actually built an app to test whether the resources path is the same 
in all stacks after build. 

Wow. So does that mean that all of the stacks in an app should be in the same 
directory in the dev environment? If not, that seem to complicate navigation 
during development.

Ok, thinking….. so for development, I would need to do something like:

function resPath
 if the environment contains “Development” then
put specialFolderPath("resources”)&”/mydataFolder" into dataPath
else
put 
specialFolderPath(“resources”)&”/dirSplashStackisin/pathToThisStack“&”/mydataFolder"
 into dataPath
end if  
return dataPath
end resPath

In other words, all app paths would be relative to the splash stack.

Is that right?

Bill

> On Feb 4, 2022, at 8:41 PM, scott--- via use-livecode 
>  wrote:
> 
> Hello Bill,
> 
> Are you seeing that the stack files have a different “resources” path in the 
> IDE ? This is expected behavior if the stacks are in different directories. 
> The “resources” path in the IDE is the folder that the stack lives in. 
> However, once everything is made into a standalone the “resources” path 
> should be the same for all stacks opened by the app… even stacks that are not 
> bundled with the standalone. The app should always report the same path.
> 
> --
> Scott Morrow
> 
> Elementary Software
> (Now with 20% less chalk dust!)
> web   https://elementarysoftware.com/
> email sc...@elementarysoftware.com
> booth1-360-734-4701
> --
> 
> 
>> On Feb 4, 2022, at 4:56 PM, ELS Prothero via use-livecode 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Folks,
>> Rather than thrashing around on this, I am asking for some general guidance.
>> 
>> I am working on a large project that has a splash stack, some stacks that do 
>> things, and some of those stacks access data contained in the app. It’s a 
>> project I built at least 10 years ago and, of course, it needs to be 64bit.  
>> I’m revising the navigation between different stacks and making other 
>> additions. I have set the stack locations in the stackfiles property of the 
>> splash stack. These filepaths are constructed according to the development 
>> folder that contains the project.  The required data file ares specified in 
>> the stack settings preferences of the development environment. 
>> 
>> So, I notice that the specialfolderpath(“resources”) returns different 
>> paths, depending on which of the project stacks calls it. So, my idea is to 
>> maybe set up all of the paths to the data in the splash stack using 
>> specialfolderpath as a base location. This worries me a bit because I’d like 
>> the various pieces of the project to be modular, so I could use them easily 
>> in other projects.
>> 
>> Question: should I set all paths of stacks and data in the splash stack? 
>> Also, do you have any suggestions on the use of specialfolderpath, where 
>> it’s appropriate when other stacks are in that path?
>> 
>> Thanks for pointing me to a resource to help me understand and optimize 
>> this, or give suggestions. 
>> 
>> Best,
>> Bill
>> 
>> William Prothero
>> https://earthlearningsolutions.org
>> 
>>> On Feb 3, 2022, at 12:55 PM, General 2018 via use-livecode 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Update  Success.
>>> 
>>> Tried everything, then read a post that pointed to :-
>>> Apple Worldwide Developer Relations Certification Authority Cert
>>> Developer ID Certification Authority Cert
>>> 
>>> In Keychain my existing expired 2027, I downloaded and installed the latest 
>>> expiring 2030/2031 - re run mrSign and notarization success.
>>> 
>>> Status = Success 0 
>>> Status Code = Pac 
>>> Status Message = Age Approved
>>> 
>>> Regards
>>> Camm
>>> 
 On 29 Jan 2022, at 22:41, matthias rebbe via use-livecode 
  wrote:
 
 Hm, interesting. Seems to be a problem with a wrong or missing timestamp. 
 So maybe adding --timestamp parameter will fix this.
 
 Could you please change the following lines in the stack script of the 
 NotarizeHelper stack and try again after that?
 
 
 line 904
 put "codesign --deep --force --verify --verbose --sign 
 ##developerIDApplication## --options runtime  --entitlements 
 ##entitlementsplist## ##myapp##" into tShell
 with this line
 put "codesign --timestamp --deep --force --verify --verbose --sign 
 ##developerIDApplication## --options runtime  --entitlements 
 ##entitlementsplist## ##myapp##" into tShell
 
 
 
 line 908
 put "codesign --deep --force 

Re: Question about organization of large projects

2022-02-04 Thread scott--- via use-livecode
Hello Bill,

Are you seeing that the stack files have a different “resources” path in the 
IDE ? This is expected behavior if the stacks are in different directories. The 
“resources” path in the IDE is the folder that the stack lives in. However, 
once everything is made into a standalone the “resources” path should be the 
same for all stacks opened by the app… even stacks that are not bundled with 
the standalone. The app should always report the same path.

--
Scott Morrow

Elementary Software
(Now with 20% less chalk dust!)
web   https://elementarysoftware.com/
email sc...@elementarysoftware.com
booth1-360-734-4701
--


> On Feb 4, 2022, at 4:56 PM, ELS Prothero via use-livecode 
>  wrote:
> 
> Folks,
> Rather than thrashing around on this, I am asking for some general guidance.
> 
> I am working on a large project that has a splash stack, some stacks that do 
> things, and some of those stacks access data contained in the app. It’s a 
> project I built at least 10 years ago and, of course, it needs to be 64bit.  
> I’m revising the navigation between different stacks and making other 
> additions. I have set the stack locations in the stackfiles property of the 
> splash stack. These filepaths are constructed according to the development 
> folder that contains the project.  The required data file ares specified in 
> the stack settings preferences of the development environment. 
> 
> So, I notice that the specialfolderpath(“resources”) returns different paths, 
> depending on which of the project stacks calls it. So, my idea is to maybe 
> set up all of the paths to the data in the splash stack using 
> specialfolderpath as a base location. This worries me a bit because I’d like 
> the various pieces of the project to be modular, so I could use them easily 
> in other projects.
> 
> Question: should I set all paths of stacks and data in the splash stack? 
> Also, do you have any suggestions on the use of specialfolderpath, where it’s 
> appropriate when other stacks are in that path?
> 
> Thanks for pointing me to a resource to help me understand and optimize this, 
> or give suggestions. 
> 
> Best,
> Bill
> 
> William Prothero
> https://earthlearningsolutions.org
> 
>> On Feb 3, 2022, at 12:55 PM, General 2018 via use-livecode 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Update  Success.
>> 
>> Tried everything, then read a post that pointed to :-
>> Apple Worldwide Developer Relations Certification Authority Cert
>> Developer ID Certification Authority Cert
>> 
>> In Keychain my existing expired 2027, I downloaded and installed the latest 
>> expiring 2030/2031 - re run mrSign and notarization success.
>> 
>> Status = Success 0 
>> Status Code = Pac 
>> Status Message = Age Approved
>> 
>> Regards
>> Camm
>> 
>>> On 29 Jan 2022, at 22:41, matthias rebbe via use-livecode 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hm, interesting. Seems to be a problem with a wrong or missing timestamp. 
>>> So maybe adding --timestamp parameter will fix this.
>>> 
>>> Could you please change the following lines in the stack script of the 
>>> NotarizeHelper stack and try again after that?
>>> 
>>> 
>>> line 904
>>> put "codesign --deep --force --verify --verbose --sign 
>>> ##developerIDApplication## --options runtime  --entitlements 
>>> ##entitlementsplist## ##myapp##" into tShell
>>> with this line
>>> put "codesign --timestamp --deep --force --verify --verbose --sign 
>>> ##developerIDApplication## --options runtime  --entitlements 
>>> ##entitlementsplist## ##myapp##" into tShell
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> line 908
>>> put "codesign --deep --force --verify --verbose --sign 
>>> ##developerIDApplication## --options runtime ##myapp##" into tShell
>>> with
>>> put "codesign --timestamp --deep --force --verify --verbose --sign 
>>> ##developerIDApplication## --options runtime ##myapp##" into tShell
>>> 
>>> line 953
>>> put "codesign --deep --force --verify --verbose --sign 
>>> ##developerIDApplication## --options runtime ##myDMG##" into tShell
>>> with
>>> put "codesign --timestamp --deep --force --verify --verbose --sign 
>>> ##developerIDApplication## --options runtime ##myDMG##" into tShell
>>> 
>>> 
> Am 29.01.2022 um 22:17 schrieb General 2018 via use-livecode 
> :
 
 Tried all these, result the same.
 
 In show “Notarization requests” for each :-
 
 Status = invalid 2
 Status Code = Pac
 Status Message = age invalid
 
 Regards Camm
 
>> On 29 Jan 2022, at 20:37, matthias rebbe via use-livecode 
>>  wrote:
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Question about organization of large projects

2022-02-04 Thread ELS Prothero via use-livecode
Folks,
Rather than thrashing around on this, I am asking for some general guidance.

I am working on a large project that has a splash stack, some stacks that do 
things, and some of those stacks access data contained in the app. It’s a 
project I built at least 10 years ago and, of course, it needs to be 64bit.  
I’m revising the navigation between different stacks and making other 
additions. I have set the stack locations in the stackfiles property of the 
splash stack. These filepaths are constructed according to the development 
folder that contains the project.  The required data file ares specified in the 
stack settings preferences of the development environment. 

So, I notice that the specialfolderpath(“resources”) returns different paths, 
depending on which of the project stacks calls it. So, my idea is to maybe set 
up all of the paths to the data in the splash stack using specialfolderpath as 
a base location. This worries me a bit because I’d like the various pieces of 
the project to be modular, so I could use them easily in other projects.

Question: should I set all paths of stacks and data in the splash stack? Also, 
do you have any suggestions on the use of specialfolderpath, where it’s 
appropriate when other stacks are in that path?

Thanks for pointing me to a resource to help me understand and optimize this, 
or give suggestions. 

Best,
Bill

William Prothero
https://earthlearningsolutions.org

> On Feb 3, 2022, at 12:55 PM, General 2018 via use-livecode 
>  wrote:
> 
> Update  Success.
> 
> Tried everything, then read a post that pointed to :-
> Apple Worldwide Developer Relations Certification Authority Cert
> Developer ID Certification Authority Cert
> 
> In Keychain my existing expired 2027, I downloaded and installed the latest 
> expiring 2030/2031 - re run mrSign and notarization success.
> 
> Status = Success 0 
> Status Code = Pac 
> Status Message = Age Approved
> 
> Regards
> Camm
> 
>> On 29 Jan 2022, at 22:41, matthias rebbe via use-livecode 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Hm, interesting. Seems to be a problem with a wrong or missing timestamp. 
>> So maybe adding --timestamp parameter will fix this.
>> 
>> Could you please change the following lines in the stack script of the 
>> NotarizeHelper stack and try again after that?
>> 
>> 
>> line 904
>> put "codesign --deep --force --verify --verbose --sign 
>> ##developerIDApplication## --options runtime  --entitlements 
>> ##entitlementsplist## ##myapp##" into tShell
>> with this line
>> put "codesign --timestamp --deep --force --verify --verbose --sign 
>> ##developerIDApplication## --options runtime  --entitlements 
>> ##entitlementsplist## ##myapp##" into tShell
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> line 908
>> put "codesign --deep --force --verify --verbose --sign 
>> ##developerIDApplication## --options runtime ##myapp##" into tShell
>> with
>> put "codesign --timestamp --deep --force --verify --verbose --sign 
>> ##developerIDApplication## --options runtime ##myapp##" into tShell
>> 
>> line 953
>> put "codesign --deep --force --verify --verbose --sign 
>> ##developerIDApplication## --options runtime ##myDMG##" into tShell
>> with
>> put "codesign --timestamp --deep --force --verify --verbose --sign 
>> ##developerIDApplication## --options runtime ##myDMG##" into tShell
>> 
>> 
 Am 29.01.2022 um 22:17 schrieb General 2018 via use-livecode 
 :
>>> 
>>> Tried all these, result the same.
>>> 
>>> In show “Notarization requests” for each :-
>>> 
>>> Status = invalid 2
>>> Status Code = Pac
>>> Status Message = age invalid
>>> 
>>> Regards Camm
>>> 
> On 29 Jan 2022, at 20:37, matthias rebbe via use-livecode 
>  wrote:
 
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