Re: Where is the pdf external in LC 9.6 and 10?

[Paul Dupuis via use-livecode]

On 5/18/2022 4:55 PM, Klaus major-k via use-livecode wrote:

Hi Paul,


Am 18.05.2022 um 22:44 schrieb Paul Dupuis via use-livecode 
:

It got removed from LC 9.6.6 and 9.6.7 and 10.0.0 dp 1 to 3. They (Livecode 
Support) said it would be back in LC 10.0.0 dp 4 and presumable and further 
releases in the 9.6.x series.

I thought this has been replaced with the PDF widget, which is only available in the 
"Pro Pack" addon?




I can't see how Livecode can replace the XPDF external with the PDF 
Widget UNTIL the PDF Widget provided all the functions the External does 
(and it does not). Well, of course they could drop the external even if 
it does a bunch of thinsg people depend on that the Widget does not, but 
it would just be bad of them to do so!



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Re: Where is the pdf external in LC 9.6 and 10?

[Matthias Rebbe via use-livecode]

Ah thanks, Paul.
I copied already the xpdf from an older LC version to LC 10DP3.

But good to know that it will be back. XPDF allows me to get the imagedata of 
the currently rendered page and 'export' that as image.

Matthias

> Am 18.05.2022 um 22:44 schrieb Paul Dupuis via use-livecode 
> :
> 
> It got removed from LC 9.6.6 and 9.6.7 and 10.0.0 dp 1 to 3. They (Livecode 
> Support) said it would be back in LC 10.0.0 dp 4 and presumable and further 
> releases in the 9.6.x series.
> 
> You can copy it from the 9.6.5 of earlier to the ccorresponding folder for LC 
> 9.6.7. For example, on Windows it is C:\Program Files\RunRev\LiveCode 
> 9.6.5\Ext\XPDF-1.0.45
> 
> Copy the XPDF-1.0.45 folder to the \Ext\ directory for LC 9.6.7
> 
> 
> -- Paul
> 
> On 5/18/2022 3:54 PM, Matthias Rebbe via use-livecode wrote:
>> Hi all.
>> 
>> I just wanted to update an older stack in LC10 that uses the xpdf external, 
>> but it seems that XPDF is not available anymore in LC. Further testing shows 
>> that at least also LC 9.6 and up does not have XPDF included anymore?
>> 
>> Am i am missing something?
>> 
>> I do not remember that XPDF was discontinued. Was there any notification 
>> about it?
>> 
>> Regards,
>> Matthias
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Re: Where is the pdf external in LC 9.6 and 10?

[Klaus major-k via use-livecode]

Hi Paul,

> Am 18.05.2022 um 22:44 schrieb Paul Dupuis via use-livecode 
> :
> 
> It got removed from LC 9.6.6 and 9.6.7 and 10.0.0 dp 1 to 3. They (Livecode 
> Support) said it would be back in LC 10.0.0 dp 4 and presumable and further 
> releases in the 9.6.x series.

I thought this has been replaced with the PDF widget, which is only available 
in the "Pro Pack" addon?

> You can copy it from the 9.6.5 of earlier to the ccorresponding folder for LC 
> 9.6.7. For example, on Windows it is C:\Program Files\RunRev\LiveCode 
> 9.6.5\Ext\XPDF-1.0.45
> Copy the XPDF-1.0.45 folder to the \Ext\ directory for LC 9.6.7
> 
> -- Paul
> 
> On 5/18/2022 3:54 PM, Matthias Rebbe via use-livecode wrote:
>> Hi all.
>> 
>> I just wanted to update an older stack in LC10 that uses the xpdf external, 
>> but it seems that XPDF is not available anymore in LC. Further testing shows 
>> that at least also LC 9.6 and up does not have XPDF included anymore?
>> 
>> Am i am missing something?
>> 
>> I do not remember that XPDF was discontinued. Was there any notification 
>> about it?
>> 
>> Regards,
>> Matthias

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IDE Property Editor for Custom Properties error

[Paul Dupuis via use-livecode]

This bug probably won't impact many people, but I just reported bug 
https://quality.livecode.com/show_bug.cgi?id=23712


In older versions of LC you could have custom property keys that had 
commas in them, such as a key like "topic,subtopic" for a online help 
system. The current (and recent) property inspect tries to convert 
custom property keys with a comma into arrays! Just thought I would 
raise this on the list for anyone else who might be impacted.






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Re: Movie text tracks

[Devin Asay via use-livecode]

Sorry, I left out the punch line.

My original need was simply to extract the text tracks from the old .mov files. 
It turns out you can do that, after a fashion, with QT Pro, but it comes out 
with lots of binary cruft. I found out you can also do this with ffmpeg, the 
Swiss Army Knife of video tools. This website explains how:

https://forum.videohelp.com/threads/403944-Extract-and-convert-QuickTime-7-Pro-TextTracks

Neither method was perfect, but both were good enough for what I wanted.

- Devin

On May 18, 2022, at 2:36 PM, Devin Asay via use-livecode 
mailto:use-livecode@lists.runrev.com>> wrote:

Hi all,

Thanks for the advice. I wanted to follow up with what I eventually ended up 
doing.

So, both Jacque’s and Richmond’s suggestions were good, but too much work for 
just peeking at some text tracks. But they got me thinking: Hey, Windows 10 
actually still runs QT 7, and I have an old QT Pro license key for Windows. I 
wonder if it still works. (Spoiler alert—it does!) So I was at least able to 
open up the movie files. Score 1 for Microsoft and backward compatibility! And 
there, magically, were my text tracks!

Paul, I think your suggestion to encourage LiveCode to support text track 
access that exists in the modern AV frameworks is a great one. Maybe timely, 
now that the mothership has asked for top 10 bug fix requests again.

Richard, thanks for pointing me in the direction of HTML 5. It set me on a 
little journey to educate myself on the state of video captioning in *this* 
century! Definitely glad I took that little detour and learned about WebVTT 
captioning format.

Thanks again for the help and suggestions. This community never disappoints!

- Devin

On May 17, 2022, at 2:16 PM, J. Landman Gay via use-livecode 
mailto:use-livecode@lists.runrev.com>>
 wrote:

Or you could use an OS 9 emulator like SheepShaver where the old version of QT 
is available.



On 5/17/22 1:02 PM, Richmond via use-livecode wrote:
Here's a thought:
Dig out an old mac that runs, say, MacOS 10.6 or 10.7 and then follow this:
https://synchrimedia.blogspot.com/2016/02/extracting-qt-text-tracks-from-movies.html
--
Jacqueline Landman Gay | 
jac...@hyperactivesw.com
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Re: Where is the pdf external in LC 9.6 and 10?

[Paul Dupuis via use-livecode]

It got removed from LC 9.6.6 and 9.6.7 and 10.0.0 dp 1 to 3. They 
(Livecode Support) said it would be back in LC 10.0.0 dp 4 and 
presumable and further releases in the 9.6.x series.


You can copy it from the 9.6.5 of earlier to the ccorresponding folder 
for LC 9.6.7. For example, on Windows it is C:\Program 
Files\RunRev\LiveCode 9.6.5\Ext\XPDF-1.0.45


Copy the XPDF-1.0.45 folder to the \Ext\ directory for LC 9.6.7


-- Paul

On 5/18/2022 3:54 PM, Matthias Rebbe via use-livecode wrote:

Hi all.

I just wanted to update an older stack in LC10 that uses the xpdf external, but 
it seems that XPDF is not available anymore in LC. Further testing shows that 
at least also LC 9.6 and up does not have XPDF included anymore?

Am i am missing something?

I do not remember that XPDF was discontinued. Was there any notification about 
it?

Regards,
Matthias
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Re: Movie text tracks

[Devin Asay via use-livecode]

Hi all,

Thanks for the advice. I wanted to follow up with what I eventually ended up 
doing.

So, both Jacque’s and Richmond’s suggestions were good, but too much work for 
just peeking at some text tracks. But they got me thinking: Hey, Windows 10 
actually still runs QT 7, and I have an old QT Pro license key for Windows. I 
wonder if it still works. (Spoiler alert—it does!) So I was at least able to 
open up the movie files. Score 1 for Microsoft and backward compatibility! And 
there, magically, were my text tracks!

Paul, I think your suggestion to encourage LiveCode to support text track 
access that exists in the modern AV frameworks is a great one. Maybe timely, 
now that the mothership has asked for top 10 bug fix requests again.

Richard, thanks for pointing me in the direction of HTML 5. It set me on a 
little journey to educate myself on the state of video captioning in *this* 
century! Definitely glad I took that little detour and learned about WebVTT 
captioning format.

Thanks again for the help and suggestions. This community never disappoints!

- Devin

On May 17, 2022, at 2:16 PM, J. Landman Gay via use-livecode 
mailto:use-livecode@lists.runrev.com>> wrote:

Or you could use an OS 9 emulator like SheepShaver where the old version of QT 
is available.



On 5/17/22 1:02 PM, Richmond via use-livecode wrote:
Here's a thought:
Dig out an old mac that runs, say, MacOS 10.6 or 10.7 and then follow this:
https://synchrimedia.blogspot.com/2016/02/extracting-qt-text-tracks-from-movies.html
--
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Re: Movie text tracks

[Richard Gaskin via use-livecode]

Good to see you here, Devin.

If your app can handle the RAM hit of embedding a browser app instance 
with the Browser Widget, and if you can extract the text track info from 
QT's proprietary format, HTML supports text tracks nicely via the WebVTT 
standard:


https://www.3playmedia.com/learn/how-to-guides/html5-video-captioning/

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Devin Asay wrote:

I’m resurrecting some QuickTime movies from years ago, and some of them have 
text tracks. (Remember those?)

In the LC player object you can still see that there is a text track with `put 
the tracks of player 1`. But there doesn’t seem to be a way anymore to show 
text tracks, either in the player object or in QT Player. All of the hits I get 
on the topic in a DuckDuckGo search are 15 - 20 years old.

Anybody know how to show, or at least recover, old text tracks from video files?

(Man I hate it when the technology gets *less* capable!)

- Devin


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Where is the pdf external in LC 9.6 and 10?

[Matthias Rebbe via use-livecode]

Hi all.

I just wanted to update an older stack in LC10 that uses the xpdf external, but 
it seems that XPDF is not available anymore in LC. Further testing shows that 
at least also LC 9.6 and up does not have XPDF included anymore?

Am i am missing something?

I do not remember that XPDF was discontinued. Was there any notification about 
it?

Regards,
Matthias
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Re: Set HTMLText and Get Effective HTMLText

[Bob Sneidar via use-livecode]

Haha! I forget sometimes that everything is just some bit of memory. I keep 
thinking for example that if I store values I want in a script local that it 
will somehow be much faster than a custom property of an object, but of course 
that can only be true if the code for accessing custom properties was not very 
efficient. 

Bob S


> On May 18, 2022, at 09:49 , Mark Waddingham via use-livecode 
>  wrote:
> 
> On 2022-05-18 17:43, Rick Harrison via use-livecode wrote:
>> I wish it worked with variables though
>> because execution would be faster.
> 
> If variables could manipulate styled text (aka htmlText) then they wouldn't 
> be any faster than fields ;)
> 
> Warmest Regards,
> 
> Mark.
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Re: Set HTMLText and Get Effective HTMLText

[Rick Harrison via use-livecode]

Hi Paul,

Thanks for this.  I’ll keep this in mind for the future.

I found that Bob’s simple suggestion of:
put URL VarURL into VarHTMLText

to work the best for me.

Thanks again!

Rick


> On May 18, 2022, at 1:38 PM, Paul Dupuis via use-livecode 
>  wrote:
> 
> Instead of:
> 
> set the HTMLText of VarHTMLText to URL VarURL
> 
> Use:
> 
> set the HTMLText of the templateField to URL VarURL
> 
> And instead of:
> 
> get the effective HTMLText of VarHTMLText2
> 
> Use:
> 
> get the effective HTMLText of the templateField
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Re: Set HTMLText and Get Effective HTMLText

[Paul Dupuis via use-livecode]

Instead of:

set the HTMLText of VarHTMLText to URL VarURL

Use:

set the HTMLText of the templateField to URL VarURL

And instead of:

get the effective HTMLText of VarHTMLText2

Use:

get the effective HTMLText of the templateField

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Re: Set HTMLText and Get Effective HTMLText

[Rick Harrison via use-livecode]

Hi Bob,

That might be what I need, but I’ll have to
look at the resulting code to see if that will work.

Thanks,

Rick

> On May 18, 2022, at 12:43 PM, Bob Sneidar via use-livecode 
>  wrote:
> 
> put URL VarURL into VarHTMLText

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Re: Movie text tracks

[Richard Gaskin via use-livecode]

Good to see you here, Devin.

If your app can handle the RAM hit of embedding a browser app instance 
with the Browser Widget, and if you can extract the text track info from 
QT's proprietary format, HTML supports text tracks nicely via the WebVTT 
standard:


https://www.3playmedia.com/learn/how-to-guides/html5-video-captioning/

--
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 Fourth World Systems


Devin Asay wrote:
> I’m resurrecting some QuickTime movies from years ago, and some of
> them have text tracks. (Remember those?)
>
> In the LC player object you can still see that there is a text track
> with `put the tracks of player 1`. But there doesn’t seem to be a
> way anymore to show text tracks, either in the player object or in
> QT Player. All of the hits I get on the topic in a DuckDuckGo search
> are 15 - 20 years old.
>
> Anybody know how to show, or at least recover, old text tracks from
> video files?
>
> (Man I hate it when the technology gets *less* capable!)
>
> - Devin

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Re: Set HTMLText and Get Effective HTMLText

[Mark Waddingham via use-livecode]

On 2022-05-18 17:43, Rick Harrison via use-livecode wrote:

I wish it worked with variables though
because execution would be faster.


If variables could manipulate styled text (aka htmlText) then they 
wouldn't be any faster than fields ;)


Warmest Regards,

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Re: Set HTMLText and Get Effective HTMLText

[Bob Sneidar via use-livecode]

Can't you just

put URL VarURL into VarHTMLText

? 

Bob S


> On May 18, 2022, at 09:40 , Rick Harrison via use-livecode 
>  wrote:
> 
> Thanks!  It’s a bummer though,
> because variables are much faster.
> 
> Rick
> 
>> On May 18, 2022, at 12:28 PM, Tore Nilsen via use-livecode 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> I would think it is because the htmlText is a property of a field. It is one 
>> of the properties that it inherited by any field.  The variable does not 
>> have this property.
>> 
>> Best regards
>> Tore Nilsen
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Re: Set HTMLText and Get Effective HTMLText

[Rick Harrison via use-livecode]

Hi Klaus,

Thanks for getting back to me on this.

That explains the problem. 

I wish it worked with variables though 
because execution would be faster.  

Oh well, at least it will do for now until we have
the LC 10 compiler which will make it all faster!

Rick

> On May 18, 2022, at 12:29 PM, Klaus major-k via use-livecode 
>  wrote:
> 
> HTMLTEXT is a property of FIELDS, variables do not have this!
> Presumed VarHTMLText is a variable.
> 
> 
> Best
> 
> Klaus

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Re: Set HTMLText and Get Effective HTMLText

[Rick Harrison via use-livecode]

Thanks!  It’s a bummer though,
because variables are much faster.

Rick

> On May 18, 2022, at 12:28 PM, Tore Nilsen via use-livecode 
>  wrote:
> 
> I would think it is because the htmlText is a property of a field. It is one 
> of the properties that it inherited by any field.  The variable does not have 
> this property.
> 
> Best regards
> Tore Nilsen

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Re: Set HTMLText and Get Effective HTMLText

[Bob Sneidar via use-livecode]

If I may add something to this, the reason why the syntax did not throw an 
error at compile time is because the compiler does not know whether or not 
VarHTMLText is a variable that contains the value "field HTMLTextField1" or the 
name of any object to be precise. If it did then it would be valid syntax. I do 
this all the time for DataGrids, as I can have datagrids on different cards in 
different stacks with the same name, eg. "dgCustomers". 

So I script 
put the long id of group "dgCustomers" into tGridID

Now I can script 
put the dgHilitedIndex of tGridID into tIndex

Bob S


> On May 18, 2022, at 09:23 , Rick Harrison via use-livecode 
>  wrote:
> 
> This works:
> 
> set the HTMLText of field "HTMLTextField1" of this card to URL VarURL
> 
> 
> This doesn’t work:
> 
> set the HTMLText of VarHTMLText to URL VarURL
> 
> (The syntax is accepted fine, but it throws the following error at execution 
> time.)
> 
> Chunk: error in object expression

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Re: Set HTMLText and Get Effective HTMLText

[Klaus major-k via use-livecode]

Hi Rick,

> Am 18.05.2022 um 18:23 schrieb Rick Harrison via use-livecode 
> :
> 
> This works:
> set the HTMLText of field "HTMLTextField1" of this card to URL VarURL
> 
> This doesn’t work:
> set the HTMLText of VarHTMLText to URL VarURL
> (The syntax is accepted fine, but it throws the following error at execution 
> time.)
> Chunk: error in object expression
> 
> This works:
> get the effective HTMLText of field "HTMLTextField1" of this card
> 
> This doesn’t work:
> get the effective HTMLText of VarHTMLText2
> (The syntax is accepted fine, but it throws the following error at execution 
> time.)
> Chunk: error in object expression
> 
> Why?
> Thanks for your insight in advance!
> 
> Rick

HTMLTEXT is a property of FIELDS, variables do not have this!
Presumed VarHTMLText is a variable.


Best

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Re: Set HTMLText and Get Effective HTMLText

[Tore Nilsen via use-livecode]

I would think it is because the htmlText is a property of a field. It is one of 
the properties that it inherited by any field.  The variable does not have this 
property.

Best regards
Tore Nilsen

> 18. mai 2022 kl. 18:23 skrev Rick Harrison via use-livecode 
> :
> 
> This works:
> 
> set the HTMLText of field "HTMLTextField1" of this card to URL VarURL
> 
> 
> This doesn’t work:
> 
> set the HTMLText of VarHTMLText to URL VarURL
> 
> (The syntax is accepted fine, but it throws the following error at execution 
> time.)
> 
> Chunk: error in object expression
> 
> 
> 
> This works:
> 
> get the effective HTMLText of field "HTMLTextField1" of this card
> 
> 
> This doesn’t work:
> 
> get the effective HTMLText of VarHTMLText2
> 
> (The syntax is accepted fine, but it throws the following error at execution 
> time.)
> 
> Chunk: error in object expression
> 
> 
> Why?
> 
> Thanks for your insight in advance!
> 
> Rick
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Set HTMLText and Get Effective HTMLText

[Rick Harrison via use-livecode]

This works:

set the HTMLText of field "HTMLTextField1" of this card to URL VarURL


This doesn’t work:

set the HTMLText of VarHTMLText to URL VarURL

(The syntax is accepted fine, but it throws the following error at execution 
time.)

Chunk: error in object expression



This works:

get the effective HTMLText of field "HTMLTextField1" of this card


This doesn’t work:

get the effective HTMLText of VarHTMLText2

(The syntax is accepted fine, but it throws the following error at execution 
time.)

Chunk: error in object expression


Why?

Thanks for your insight in advance!

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Re: Curved text possible?

[William de Smet via use-livecode]

Hi Sean,

Incredible to see what HH did.
That is way over my head.
And so is LCB.




groeten,

William




Op wo 18 mei 2022 om 14:16 schreef Sean Cole via use-livecode <
use-livecode@lists.runrev.com>:

> Actually, HH had put up this on his site and kept open for us kindly.
> https://hh.on-rev.com/widgets/svgtext.html
>
> At the bottom he describes that it is possible to use SVG to define paths
> for the text. How good are you at LCB in being able to manipulate what he
> had achieved here?
>
> Sean
>
>
> On Wed, 18 May 2022 at 12:57, William de Smet via use-livecode <
> use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:
>
> > @Sean: Yes, a widget would be the best thing of course.
> > Much appreciated!
> >
> > groeten,
> >
> > William
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Op wo 18 mei 2022 om 11:41 schreef Pi Digital via use-livecode <
> > use-livecode@lists.runrev.com>:
> >
> > > There is a better way to do this using LCB. If you don’t mind waiting I
> > > can pull something up. I’m out of office at the moment so can’t get to
> my
> > > files.
> > >
> > > Sean Cole
> > > Pi Digital Productions Ltd
> > >
> > > eMail Ts & Cs
> > >
> > >
> > > > On 18 May 2022, at 09:40, William de Smet via use-livecode <
> > > use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Hi there,
> > > >
> > > > I posted a curved text example (with use of the browser widget) on
> the
> > > > forum:
> > > > https://forums.livecode.com/viewtopic.php?f=120&t=37027
> > > >
> > > > It works ok but still not satisfied with transparency.
> > > > Maybe someone has a better idea on how to do that?
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > groeten,
> > > >
> > > > William
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Op do 28 apr. 2022 om 17:42 schreef William de Smet <
> > > williamdes...@gmail.com
> > > >> :
> > > >
> > > >> Thanks!
> > > >>
> > > >> I came up with sort of the same idea yesterday evening and I am
> > > >> tetsting it now.
> > > >> I load a local html file within the browser widget with
> circletype.js
> > > >> added to the html file.
> > > >>
> > > >> A native textfield (and some extra code) writes back into the html
> > file
> > > >> and then I refresh the card.
> > > >> A snapshot gives me the curved text.
> > > >>
> > > >> There is also Arctext,js that I want to test.
> > > >>
> > > >> I will come back later with my result.
> > > >>
> > > >> groeten,
> > > >>
> > > >> William
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >> Op do 28 apr. 2022 om 17:24 schreef Ralph DiMola via use-livecode <
> > > >> use-livecode@lists.runrev.com>:
> > > >>
> > > >>> +1
> > > >>>
> > > >>> Ralph DiMola
> > > >>> IT Director
> > > >>> Evergreen Information Services
> > > >>> rdim...@evergreeninfo.net
> > > >>>
> > > >>> -Original Message-
> > > >>> From: use-livecode [mailto:use-livecode-boun...@lists.runrev.com]
> On
> > > >>> Behalf
> > > >>> Of Bob Sneidar via use-livecode
> > > >>> Sent: Thursday, April 28, 2022 11:18 AM
> > > >>> To: How to use LiveCode
> > > >>> Cc: Bob Sneidar
> > > >>> Subject: Re: Curved text possible?
> > > >>>
> > > >>> Great ideas Martin. I'm going to grant you an honorary doctorate
> from
> > > the
> > > >>> institute of Sly Laboratories.
> > > >>>
> > > >>> Bob S
> > > >>>
> > > >>>
> > >  On Apr 28, 2022, at 08:10 , Martin Koob via use-livecode
> > > >>>  wrote:
> > > 
> > >  I was thinking that SVG might work as someone else has said.
> > > 
> > >  At first I thought you could create individual files for each
> letter
> > > and
> > > >>> number and put the path for a letter into a svg widget which you
> > could
> > > >>> rotate or scale.
> > >  you would then have to calculate the angle of rotation and
> location
> > of
> > > >>> each svg widget on a path.   But then when I tried rotating the svg
> > > widget
> > > >>> its scale would change as it rotated because the bounds of the rect
> > > were
> > > >>> changing. Then you would have to calculate the scale depending on
> the
> > > >>> rotation angle and that seemed a bit much.
> > > 
> > >  I also thought you could import the svg file as an image and
> perhaps
> > > >>> that
> > > >>> would not have the odd behaviour when rotating.  I did not try that
> > > >>> though.
> > > 
> > >  Then I found this.
> > > 
> > >  https://css-tricks.com/snippets/svg/curved-text-along-path/
> > > >>> 
> > > 
> > >  it shows how to use css to put text along a SVG path.  At the
> > LiveCode
> > > >>> Dev
> > > >>> Con there were a few unconventional uses of the browser widget
> beyond
> > > >>> displaying webpages that add features that can add features that
> > > LiveCode
> > > >>> does not have natively.  So I thought maybe this is one of them.
> So
> > > what
> > > >>> I
> > > >>> thought could be done is display the above in a browser widget or,
> > If
> > > you
> > > >>> did not want to show the browser widget, use the browser widget to
> > > render
> > > >>> the curved text, thentake a snap

Re: Curved text possible?

[Sean Cole via use-livecode]

Actually, HH had put up this on his site and kept open for us kindly.
https://hh.on-rev.com/widgets/svgtext.html

At the bottom he describes that it is possible to use SVG to define paths
for the text. How good are you at LCB in being able to manipulate what he
had achieved here?

Sean


On Wed, 18 May 2022 at 12:57, William de Smet via use-livecode <
use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:

> @Sean: Yes, a widget would be the best thing of course.
> Much appreciated!
>
> groeten,
>
> William
>
>
>
>
> Op wo 18 mei 2022 om 11:41 schreef Pi Digital via use-livecode <
> use-livecode@lists.runrev.com>:
>
> > There is a better way to do this using LCB. If you don’t mind waiting I
> > can pull something up. I’m out of office at the moment so can’t get to my
> > files.
> >
> > Sean Cole
> > Pi Digital Productions Ltd
> >
> > eMail Ts & Cs
> >
> >
> > > On 18 May 2022, at 09:40, William de Smet via use-livecode <
> > use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > Hi there,
> > >
> > > I posted a curved text example (with use of the browser widget) on the
> > > forum:
> > > https://forums.livecode.com/viewtopic.php?f=120&t=37027
> > >
> > > It works ok but still not satisfied with transparency.
> > > Maybe someone has a better idea on how to do that?
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > groeten,
> > >
> > > William
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Op do 28 apr. 2022 om 17:42 schreef William de Smet <
> > williamdes...@gmail.com
> > >> :
> > >
> > >> Thanks!
> > >>
> > >> I came up with sort of the same idea yesterday evening and I am
> > >> tetsting it now.
> > >> I load a local html file within the browser widget with circletype.js
> > >> added to the html file.
> > >>
> > >> A native textfield (and some extra code) writes back into the html
> file
> > >> and then I refresh the card.
> > >> A snapshot gives me the curved text.
> > >>
> > >> There is also Arctext,js that I want to test.
> > >>
> > >> I will come back later with my result.
> > >>
> > >> groeten,
> > >>
> > >> William
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> Op do 28 apr. 2022 om 17:24 schreef Ralph DiMola via use-livecode <
> > >> use-livecode@lists.runrev.com>:
> > >>
> > >>> +1
> > >>>
> > >>> Ralph DiMola
> > >>> IT Director
> > >>> Evergreen Information Services
> > >>> rdim...@evergreeninfo.net
> > >>>
> > >>> -Original Message-
> > >>> From: use-livecode [mailto:use-livecode-boun...@lists.runrev.com] On
> > >>> Behalf
> > >>> Of Bob Sneidar via use-livecode
> > >>> Sent: Thursday, April 28, 2022 11:18 AM
> > >>> To: How to use LiveCode
> > >>> Cc: Bob Sneidar
> > >>> Subject: Re: Curved text possible?
> > >>>
> > >>> Great ideas Martin. I'm going to grant you an honorary doctorate from
> > the
> > >>> institute of Sly Laboratories.
> > >>>
> > >>> Bob S
> > >>>
> > >>>
> >  On Apr 28, 2022, at 08:10 , Martin Koob via use-livecode
> > >>>  wrote:
> > 
> >  I was thinking that SVG might work as someone else has said.
> > 
> >  At first I thought you could create individual files for each letter
> > and
> > >>> number and put the path for a letter into a svg widget which you
> could
> > >>> rotate or scale.
> >  you would then have to calculate the angle of rotation and location
> of
> > >>> each svg widget on a path.   But then when I tried rotating the svg
> > widget
> > >>> its scale would change as it rotated because the bounds of the rect
> > were
> > >>> changing. Then you would have to calculate the scale depending on the
> > >>> rotation angle and that seemed a bit much.
> > 
> >  I also thought you could import the svg file as an image and perhaps
> > >>> that
> > >>> would not have the odd behaviour when rotating.  I did not try that
> > >>> though.
> > 
> >  Then I found this.
> > 
> >  https://css-tricks.com/snippets/svg/curved-text-along-path/
> > >>> 
> > 
> >  it shows how to use css to put text along a SVG path.  At the
> LiveCode
> > >>> Dev
> > >>> Con there were a few unconventional uses of the browser widget beyond
> > >>> displaying webpages that add features that can add features that
> > LiveCode
> > >>> does not have natively.  So I thought maybe this is one of them.  So
> > what
> > >>> I
> > >>> thought could be done is display the above in a browser widget or,
> If
> > you
> > >>> did not want to show the browser widget, use the browser widget to
> > render
> > >>> the curved text, thentake a snapshot of the rendered text and then
> show
> > >>> that
> > >>> in an image.
> > 
> >  Not sure if it will work but the sessions at the conference have
> > really
> > >>> got me thinking of new ways to leverage the technology in that
> widget.
> > 
> >  Martin Koob
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>> ___
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> > >>> use-livecode@lists.runrev.com
> > >>> Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your
> > >>> subscription
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Re: Curved text possible?

[William de Smet via use-livecode]

@Sean: Yes, a widget would be the best thing of course.
Much appreciated!

groeten,

William




Op wo 18 mei 2022 om 11:41 schreef Pi Digital via use-livecode <
use-livecode@lists.runrev.com>:

> There is a better way to do this using LCB. If you don’t mind waiting I
> can pull something up. I’m out of office at the moment so can’t get to my
> files.
>
> Sean Cole
> Pi Digital Productions Ltd
>
> eMail Ts & Cs
>
>
> > On 18 May 2022, at 09:40, William de Smet via use-livecode <
> use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:
> >
> > Hi there,
> >
> > I posted a curved text example (with use of the browser widget) on the
> > forum:
> > https://forums.livecode.com/viewtopic.php?f=120&t=37027
> >
> > It works ok but still not satisfied with transparency.
> > Maybe someone has a better idea on how to do that?
> >
> >
> >
> > groeten,
> >
> > William
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Op do 28 apr. 2022 om 17:42 schreef William de Smet <
> williamdes...@gmail.com
> >> :
> >
> >> Thanks!
> >>
> >> I came up with sort of the same idea yesterday evening and I am
> >> tetsting it now.
> >> I load a local html file within the browser widget with circletype.js
> >> added to the html file.
> >>
> >> A native textfield (and some extra code) writes back into the html file
> >> and then I refresh the card.
> >> A snapshot gives me the curved text.
> >>
> >> There is also Arctext,js that I want to test.
> >>
> >> I will come back later with my result.
> >>
> >> groeten,
> >>
> >> William
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Op do 28 apr. 2022 om 17:24 schreef Ralph DiMola via use-livecode <
> >> use-livecode@lists.runrev.com>:
> >>
> >>> +1
> >>>
> >>> Ralph DiMola
> >>> IT Director
> >>> Evergreen Information Services
> >>> rdim...@evergreeninfo.net
> >>>
> >>> -Original Message-
> >>> From: use-livecode [mailto:use-livecode-boun...@lists.runrev.com] On
> >>> Behalf
> >>> Of Bob Sneidar via use-livecode
> >>> Sent: Thursday, April 28, 2022 11:18 AM
> >>> To: How to use LiveCode
> >>> Cc: Bob Sneidar
> >>> Subject: Re: Curved text possible?
> >>>
> >>> Great ideas Martin. I'm going to grant you an honorary doctorate from
> the
> >>> institute of Sly Laboratories.
> >>>
> >>> Bob S
> >>>
> >>>
>  On Apr 28, 2022, at 08:10 , Martin Koob via use-livecode
> >>>  wrote:
> 
>  I was thinking that SVG might work as someone else has said.
> 
>  At first I thought you could create individual files for each letter
> and
> >>> number and put the path for a letter into a svg widget which you could
> >>> rotate or scale.
>  you would then have to calculate the angle of rotation and location of
> >>> each svg widget on a path.   But then when I tried rotating the svg
> widget
> >>> its scale would change as it rotated because the bounds of the rect
> were
> >>> changing. Then you would have to calculate the scale depending on the
> >>> rotation angle and that seemed a bit much.
> 
>  I also thought you could import the svg file as an image and perhaps
> >>> that
> >>> would not have the odd behaviour when rotating.  I did not try that
> >>> though.
> 
>  Then I found this.
> 
>  https://css-tricks.com/snippets/svg/curved-text-along-path/
> >>> 
> 
>  it shows how to use css to put text along a SVG path.  At the LiveCode
> >>> Dev
> >>> Con there were a few unconventional uses of the browser widget beyond
> >>> displaying webpages that add features that can add features that
> LiveCode
> >>> does not have natively.  So I thought maybe this is one of them.  So
> what
> >>> I
> >>> thought could be done is display the above in a browser widget or,  If
> you
> >>> did not want to show the browser widget, use the browser widget to
> render
> >>> the curved text, thentake a snapshot of the rendered text and then show
> >>> that
> >>> in an image.
> 
>  Not sure if it will work but the sessions at the conference have
> really
> >>> got me thinking of new ways to leverage the technology in that widget.
> 
>  Martin Koob
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> ___
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Re: Curved text possible?

[Pi Digital via use-livecode]

There is a better way to do this using LCB. If you don’t mind waiting I can 
pull something up. I’m out of office at the moment so can’t get to my files. 

Sean Cole
Pi Digital Productions Ltd

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> On 18 May 2022, at 09:40, William de Smet via use-livecode 
>  wrote:
> 
> Hi there,
> 
> I posted a curved text example (with use of the browser widget) on the
> forum:
> https://forums.livecode.com/viewtopic.php?f=120&t=37027
> 
> It works ok but still not satisfied with transparency.
> Maybe someone has a better idea on how to do that?
> 
> 
> 
> groeten,
> 
> William
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Op do 28 apr. 2022 om 17:42 schreef William de Smet > :
> 
>> Thanks!
>> 
>> I came up with sort of the same idea yesterday evening and I am
>> tetsting it now.
>> I load a local html file within the browser widget with circletype.js
>> added to the html file.
>> 
>> A native textfield (and some extra code) writes back into the html file
>> and then I refresh the card.
>> A snapshot gives me the curved text.
>> 
>> There is also Arctext,js that I want to test.
>> 
>> I will come back later with my result.
>> 
>> groeten,
>> 
>> William
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Op do 28 apr. 2022 om 17:24 schreef Ralph DiMola via use-livecode <
>> use-livecode@lists.runrev.com>:
>> 
>>> +1
>>> 
>>> Ralph DiMola
>>> IT Director
>>> Evergreen Information Services
>>> rdim...@evergreeninfo.net
>>> 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: use-livecode [mailto:use-livecode-boun...@lists.runrev.com] On
>>> Behalf
>>> Of Bob Sneidar via use-livecode
>>> Sent: Thursday, April 28, 2022 11:18 AM
>>> To: How to use LiveCode
>>> Cc: Bob Sneidar
>>> Subject: Re: Curved text possible?
>>> 
>>> Great ideas Martin. I'm going to grant you an honorary doctorate from the
>>> institute of Sly Laboratories.
>>> 
>>> Bob S
>>> 
>>> 
 On Apr 28, 2022, at 08:10 , Martin Koob via use-livecode
>>>  wrote:
 
 I was thinking that SVG might work as someone else has said.
 
 At first I thought you could create individual files for each letter and
>>> number and put the path for a letter into a svg widget which you could
>>> rotate or scale.
 you would then have to calculate the angle of rotation and location of
>>> each svg widget on a path.   But then when I tried rotating the svg widget
>>> its scale would change as it rotated because the bounds of the rect were
>>> changing. Then you would have to calculate the scale depending on the
>>> rotation angle and that seemed a bit much.
 
 I also thought you could import the svg file as an image and perhaps
>>> that
>>> would not have the odd behaviour when rotating.  I did not try that
>>> though.
 
 Then I found this.
 
 https://css-tricks.com/snippets/svg/curved-text-along-path/
>>> 
 
 it shows how to use css to put text along a SVG path.  At the LiveCode
>>> Dev
>>> Con there were a few unconventional uses of the browser widget beyond
>>> displaying webpages that add features that can add features that LiveCode
>>> does not have natively.  So I thought maybe this is one of them.  So what
>>> I
>>> thought could be done is display the above in a browser widget or,  If you
>>> did not want to show the browser widget, use the browser widget to render
>>> the curved text, thentake a snapshot of the rendered text and then show
>>> that
>>> in an image.
 
 Not sure if it will work but the sessions at the conference have really
>>> got me thinking of new ways to leverage the technology in that widget.
 
 Martin Koob
>>> 
>>> 
>>> ___
>>> use-livecode mailing list
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>>> subscription
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Re: Curved text possible?

[William de Smet via use-livecode]

Hi there,

I posted a curved text example (with use of the browser widget) on the
forum:
https://forums.livecode.com/viewtopic.php?f=120&t=37027

It works ok but still not satisfied with transparency.
Maybe someone has a better idea on how to do that?



groeten,

William




Op do 28 apr. 2022 om 17:42 schreef William de Smet :

> Thanks!
>
> I came up with sort of the same idea yesterday evening and I am
> tetsting it now.
> I load a local html file within the browser widget with circletype.js
> added to the html file.
>
> A native textfield (and some extra code) writes back into the html file
> and then I refresh the card.
> A snapshot gives me the curved text.
>
> There is also Arctext,js that I want to test.
>
> I will come back later with my result.
>
> groeten,
>
> William
>
>
>
>
> Op do 28 apr. 2022 om 17:24 schreef Ralph DiMola via use-livecode <
> use-livecode@lists.runrev.com>:
>
>> +1
>>
>> Ralph DiMola
>> IT Director
>> Evergreen Information Services
>> rdim...@evergreeninfo.net
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: use-livecode [mailto:use-livecode-boun...@lists.runrev.com] On
>> Behalf
>> Of Bob Sneidar via use-livecode
>> Sent: Thursday, April 28, 2022 11:18 AM
>> To: How to use LiveCode
>> Cc: Bob Sneidar
>> Subject: Re: Curved text possible?
>>
>> Great ideas Martin. I'm going to grant you an honorary doctorate from the
>> institute of Sly Laboratories.
>>
>> Bob S
>>
>>
>> > On Apr 28, 2022, at 08:10 , Martin Koob via use-livecode
>>  wrote:
>> >
>> > I was thinking that SVG might work as someone else has said.
>> >
>> > At first I thought you could create individual files for each letter and
>> number and put the path for a letter into a svg widget which you could
>> rotate or scale.
>> > you would then have to calculate the angle of rotation and location of
>> each svg widget on a path.   But then when I tried rotating the svg widget
>> its scale would change as it rotated because the bounds of the rect were
>> changing. Then you would have to calculate the scale depending on the
>> rotation angle and that seemed a bit much.
>> >
>> > I also thought you could import the svg file as an image and perhaps
>> that
>> would not have the odd behaviour when rotating.  I did not try that
>> though.
>> >
>> > Then I found this.
>> >
>> > https://css-tricks.com/snippets/svg/curved-text-along-path/
>> 
>> >
>> > it shows how to use css to put text along a SVG path.  At the LiveCode
>> Dev
>> Con there were a few unconventional uses of the browser widget beyond
>> displaying webpages that add features that can add features that LiveCode
>> does not have natively.  So I thought maybe this is one of them.  So what
>> I
>> thought could be done is display the above in a browser widget or,  If you
>> did not want to show the browser widget, use the browser widget to render
>> the curved text, thentake a snapshot of the rendered text and then show
>> that
>> in an image.
>> >
>> > Not sure if it will work but the sessions at the conference have really
>> got me thinking of new ways to leverage the technology in that widget.
>> >
>> > Martin Koob
>>
>>
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