Re: ENTER in scripts

[Martin Koob via use-livecode]

On a Mac Extemed keyboard there is an ENTER Key.  Does using it have a 
different behaviour than using the RETURN key?

On my laptop of course there is only an RETURN key.  After some searching I did 
find that Fn + RETURN or cmd + RETURN are equivalent to and ENTER key press.

I tried and it does work to apply the script changes, however not while the 
focus was on a filed in the Script Editor.

For me to get the desired behaviour

1. Click on an area on the Script area that is not an object. i.e. the card
2. Press Fn + RETURN or cmd + RETURN and the Script changes would be applied.

I am using a Mac Book Pro M1 Max with Mac OS Monterey.

Martin

> On Nov 9, 2022, at 7:59 PM, J. Landman Gay via use-livecode 
>  wrote:
> 
> I'm on a Mac and I've been using the enter key to compile for years (back to 
> MetaCard I think.) Are you sure it does nothing? Watch the dot in the script 
> tab and see if it turns green.
> 
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> HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com
> On November 9, 2022 4:19:36 PM Bob Sneidar via use-livecode 
>  wrote:
> 
>> Hmmm... On MacOS enter does nothing. Return inserts a carriage return. I use 
>> tab then cmd-save to format then comile the script.
>> 
>> Bob S
>> 
>> 
>>> On Nov 7, 2022, at 13:29 , Ralph DiMola via use-livecode 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Well, you learn something exceedingly simple every day. OK I get it. Enter 
>>> is the same as clicking "Apply". Very convenient! Saves time typing in the 
>>> SE.
>>> 
>>> THANKS!
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Ralph DiMola
>>> IT Director
>>> Evergreen Information Services
>>> rdim...@evergreeninfo.net
>>> 
>>> 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: use-livecode [mailto:use-livecode-boun...@lists.runrev.com] On Behalf 
>>> Of Craig Newman via use-livecode
>>> Sent: Monday, November 07, 2022 2:08 PM
>>> To: How to use LiveCode
>>> Cc: Craig Newman
>>> Subject: Re: ENTER in scripts
>>> 
>>> All.
>>> 
>>> "Enter" has always worked for me. And focus has always been required to be 
>>> in the SE for it to do so.
>>> 
>>> This seems logical to me. It would not do for actions specific to certain 
>>> spaces to be affected, or effected, when not in that space.
>>> 
>>> Craig
>>> 
 On Nov 7, 2022, at 1:07 PM, Martin Koob via use-livecode 
  wrote:
 
 Do you mean does pressing the ENTER key does the same thing as clicking 
 the ‘Apply’ button at the top left of the script editor?
 
 The tool tip for the ‘APPLY’ button says.
 
‘compile and apply the current script (Enter, cmd+Return)’
 
 I actually did not know there was a keyboard shortcut for the ‘Apply’ 
 button.  That is a handy tip.
 
 I tried it out and at first it did not work.  That time the focus was on 
 the script field and the text cursor was there.
 
 If I clicked on part of the card outside of the script field then the 
 cmd+Return key combination worked.
 
 If I clicked in another object like the ‘find’ text field or a handler in 
 the list to the left of the text field or on the ‘MatchCase’ checkbox
 CMD+Return would not work.
 
 So it looks like it only works when there is no focus on a field or other 
 object.
 
 
 In any case it sounds like a bug.   The key combination should work 
 whether the script field has focus or not.
 
 
 Since I have never used that key combo before I am not sure whether that 
 behaviour has changed or not.
 
 
 Martin Koob
 
 
> On Nov 7, 2022, at 12:45 PM, Niggemann, Bernd via use-livecode 
>  wrote:
> 
> Klaus wrote
> 
> 
> is it only me or does the ENTER key nothing after hitting while in
> script editor?
> 
> 
> 
> https://quality.livecode.com/show_bug.cgi?id=23999
> 
> Please note: in 9.6.9 rc 2 there is some more scriptifying of IDE stacks. 
> Some of them have some quirks.
> It is well worth to test 9.6.2 rc 2 to catch as many as possible and 
> report them.
> 
> Kind regards
> Bernd
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Re: ENTER in scripts

[J. Landman Gay via use-livecode]

I'm on a Mac and I've been using the enter key to compile for years (back 
to MetaCard I think.) Are you sure it does nothing? Watch the dot in the 
script tab and see if it turns green.


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On November 9, 2022 4:19:36 PM Bob Sneidar via use-livecode 
 wrote:


Hmmm... On MacOS enter does nothing. Return inserts a carriage return. I 
use tab then cmd-save to format then comile the script.


Bob S


On Nov 7, 2022, at 13:29 , Ralph DiMola via use-livecode 
 wrote:


Well, you learn something exceedingly simple every day. OK I get it. Enter 
is the same as clicking "Apply". Very convenient! Saves time typing in the SE.


THANKS!


Ralph DiMola
IT Director
Evergreen Information Services
rdim...@evergreeninfo.net


-Original Message-
From: use-livecode [mailto:use-livecode-boun...@lists.runrev.com] On Behalf 
Of Craig Newman via use-livecode

Sent: Monday, November 07, 2022 2:08 PM
To: How to use LiveCode
Cc: Craig Newman
Subject: Re: ENTER in scripts

All.

"Enter" has always worked for me. And focus has always been required to be 
in the SE for it to do so.


This seems logical to me. It would not do for actions specific to certain 
spaces to be affected, or effected, when not in that space.


Craig

On Nov 7, 2022, at 1:07 PM, Martin Koob via use-livecode 
 wrote:


Do you mean does pressing the ENTER key does the same thing as clicking the 
‘Apply’ button at the top left of the script editor?


The tool tip for the ‘APPLY’ button says.

‘compile and apply the current script (Enter, cmd+Return)’

I actually did not know there was a keyboard shortcut for the ‘Apply’ 
button.  That is a handy tip.


I tried it out and at first it did not work.  That time the focus was on 
the script field and the text cursor was there.


If I clicked on part of the card outside of the script field then the 
cmd+Return key combination worked.


If I clicked in another object like the ‘find’ text field or a handler in 
the list to the left of the text field or on the ‘MatchCase’ 
checkbox	CMD+Return would not work.


So it looks like it only works when there is no focus on a field or other 
object.



In any case it sounds like a bug.   The key combination should work whether 
the script field has focus or not.



Since I have never used that key combo before I am not sure whether that 
behaviour has changed or not.



Martin Koob


On Nov 7, 2022, at 12:45 PM, Niggemann, Bernd via use-livecode 
 wrote:


Klaus wrote


is it only me or does the ENTER key nothing after hitting while in
script editor?



https://quality.livecode.com/show_bug.cgi?id=23999

Please note: in 9.6.9 rc 2 there is some more scriptifying of IDE stacks. 
Some of them have some quirks.
It is well worth to test 9.6.2 rc 2 to catch as many as possible and report 
them.


Kind regards
Bernd
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Re: Anyone any experience with Livecode under Ventura?

[Mike Kerner via use-livecode]

Geoff, that's weird, I don't recall seeing that message on my non-dev
machines, but then, again, I was also running the beta on those boxes.

On Wed, Nov 9, 2022 at 5:32 PM Bob Sneidar via use-livecode <
use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:

> FYI I NEVER am going to consolidate all my documents in iCloud. That's
> like hanging a copy of all my keys in the community center that's open 24
> hours a day to everyone. One day someone is going to lock the doors...
>
> Bob S
>
>
> On Nov 8, 2022, at 13:22 , Geoff Canyon via use-livecode <
> use-livecode@lists.runrev.com>
> wrote:
>
> I upgraded to Ventura over a week ago. No problems so far with one
> exception: the OS suggested that I consolidate everything onto iCloud for
> universal access and backups. I did so. That resulted in oddities like
> cmd-shift-D now opening iCloud/Desktop instead of something in my home
> directory. Or more accurately, there *is* a "Desktop" folder in my home
> directory that appears not to be an alias, but is invisible?
>
> Anyway, doing this caused the same thing to happen for the Documents
> folder. LiveCode apparently can't find the invisible folder, so e.g. it
> defaulted back to the copy of Navigator included with LiveCode -- which is
> ancient, no one should use it -- instead of the copy in ~/Documents/My
> Livecode/Plugins.
>
> So far, to fix it I hit cmd-shift-period in the Finder. That shows
> invisible files. I'm sure there's a way to un-invisible a folder, and
> hopefully that will fix the issue without causing any issues with what
> Ventura is trying to do with iCloud.
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Re: Anyone any experience with Livecode under Ventura?

[Bob Sneidar via use-livecode]

FYI I NEVER am going to consolidate all my documents in iCloud. That's like 
hanging a copy of all my keys in the community center that's open 24 hours a 
day to everyone. One day someone is going to lock the doors...

Bob S


On Nov 8, 2022, at 13:22 , Geoff Canyon via use-livecode 
mailto:use-livecode@lists.runrev.com>> wrote:

I upgraded to Ventura over a week ago. No problems so far with one
exception: the OS suggested that I consolidate everything onto iCloud for
universal access and backups. I did so. That resulted in oddities like
cmd-shift-D now opening iCloud/Desktop instead of something in my home
directory. Or more accurately, there *is* a "Desktop" folder in my home
directory that appears not to be an alias, but is invisible?

Anyway, doing this caused the same thing to happen for the Documents
folder. LiveCode apparently can't find the invisible folder, so e.g. it
defaulted back to the copy of Navigator included with LiveCode -- which is
ancient, no one should use it -- instead of the copy in ~/Documents/My
Livecode/Plugins.

So far, to fix it I hit cmd-shift-period in the Finder. That shows
invisible files. I'm sure there's a way to un-invisible a folder, and
hopefully that will fix the issue without causing any issues with what
Ventura is trying to do with iCloud.

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Re: ENTER in scripts

[Bob Sneidar via use-livecode]

Hmmm... On MacOS enter does nothing. Return inserts a carriage return. I use 
tab then cmd-save to format then comile the script. 

Bob S


> On Nov 7, 2022, at 13:29 , Ralph DiMola via use-livecode 
>  wrote:
> 
> Well, you learn something exceedingly simple every day. OK I get it. Enter is 
> the same as clicking "Apply". Very convenient! Saves time typing in the SE.
> 
> THANKS!
> 
> 
> Ralph DiMola
> IT Director
> Evergreen Information Services
> rdim...@evergreeninfo.net
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: use-livecode [mailto:use-livecode-boun...@lists.runrev.com] On Behalf 
> Of Craig Newman via use-livecode
> Sent: Monday, November 07, 2022 2:08 PM
> To: How to use LiveCode
> Cc: Craig Newman
> Subject: Re: ENTER in scripts
> 
> All.
> 
> "Enter" has always worked for me. And focus has always been required to be in 
> the SE for it to do so.
> 
> This seems logical to me. It would not do for actions specific to certain 
> spaces to be affected, or effected, when not in that space.
> 
> Craig
> 
>> On Nov 7, 2022, at 1:07 PM, Martin Koob via use-livecode 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Do you mean does pressing the ENTER key does the same thing as clicking the 
>> ‘Apply’ button at the top left of the script editor?
>> 
>> The tool tip for the ‘APPLY’ button says.
>> 
>>  ‘compile and apply the current script (Enter, cmd+Return)’
>> 
>> I actually did not know there was a keyboard shortcut for the ‘Apply’ 
>> button.  That is a handy tip.
>> 
>> I tried it out and at first it did not work.  That time the focus was on the 
>> script field and the text cursor was there. 
>> 
>> If I clicked on part of the card outside of the script field then the 
>> cmd+Return key combination worked.
>> 
>> If I clicked in another object like the ‘find’ text field or a handler in 
>> the list to the left of the text field or on the ‘MatchCase’ checkbox  
>> CMD+Return would not work.
>> 
>> So it looks like it only works when there is no focus on a field or other 
>> object.
>> 
>> 
>> In any case it sounds like a bug.   The key combination should work whether 
>> the script field has focus or not.
>> 
>> 
>> Since I have never used that key combo before I am not sure whether that 
>> behaviour has changed or not.
>> 
>> 
>> Martin Koob
>> 
>> 
>>> On Nov 7, 2022, at 12:45 PM, Niggemann, Bernd via use-livecode 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Klaus wrote
>>> 
>>> 
>>> is it only me or does the ENTER key nothing after hitting while in 
>>> script editor?
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> https://quality.livecode.com/show_bug.cgi?id=23999
>>> 
>>> Please note: in 9.6.9 rc 2 there is some more scriptifying of IDE stacks. 
>>> Some of them have some quirks.
>>> It is well worth to test 9.6.2 rc 2 to catch as many as possible and report 
>>> them.
>>> 
>>> Kind regards
>>> Bernd
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Re: LC Date Conversions post 2035

[Bob Sneidar via use-livecode]

Probably based on Unix... ;-)

Bob S


On Nov 7, 2022, at 06:55 , Martin Koob via use-livecode 
mailto:use-livecode@lists.runrev.com>> wrote:

Not sure what Window is doing that it is only going to work till 3000.  Maybe 
MicroSoft have decided to EOL Windows  then and have plans to release a totally 
rewritten operating system then.


Martin

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Re: megabundle updated

[Mark Wieder via use-livecode]

On 11/9/22 06:36, Mike Kerner via use-livecode wrote:

What? With no notification?

They have not announced any of the updates, but there have been several.
You have to check the release date on the website to tell if there has been
an update, and yes, the changelog.txt (but the I think the date for the
latest PolyList, for instance, is wrong)


I guess it's just too difficult to change the name of a zip file.

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Re: YAML support

[Glen Bojsza via use-livecode]

Thanks
I will check it out

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> there is a yaml parser built into levure.
>
> On Wed, Nov 9, 2022 at 9:42 AM Glen Bojsza via use-livecode <
> use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:
>
> > Hello,
> >
> > I was wondering what the current state and recommendations are for
> working
> > with YAML files and Livecode.
> >
> > The last posts I have found on this was back in 2020 so is anyone
> currently
> > using Livecode with YAML files.
> >
> > regards,
> >
> > Glen
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Re: YAML support

[Mike Kerner via use-livecode]

there is a yaml parser built into levure.

On Wed, Nov 9, 2022 at 9:42 AM Glen Bojsza via use-livecode <
use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:

> Hello,
>
> I was wondering what the current state and recommendations are for working
> with YAML files and Livecode.
>
> The last posts I have found on this was back in 2020 so is anyone currently
> using Livecode with YAML files.
>
> regards,
>
> Glen
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YAML support

[Glen Bojsza via use-livecode]

Hello,

I was wondering what the current state and recommendations are for working
with YAML files and Livecode.

The last posts I have found on this was back in 2020 so is anyone currently
using Livecode with YAML files.

regards,

Glen
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Re: megabundle updated

[Mike Kerner via use-livecode]

>What? With no notification?
They have not announced any of the updates, but there have been several.
You have to check the release date on the website to tell if there has been
an update, and yes, the changelog.txt (but the I think the date for the
latest PolyList, for instance, is wrong)

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> The zip file is still named 1.0.0
> But it is 1.0.27 inside
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