Re: Windows on ARM...
Thank you Mike. I did not know that. On 4/9/2024 3:15 PM, Mike Kerner via use-livecode wrote: paul, lc apps that i built on win years ago are still running on win on arm (and have been, for three years), so i'm guessing there is at least an emulation mode. On Tue, Apr 9, 2024 at 3:04 PM Paul Dupuis via use-livecode < use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: Mothership people (or anyone in the community that may know this): Microsoft is expected to port and release Windows running on ARM chips (Surface laptops will use the Snapdragon X Elite processors from Qualcomm) this year. Announcement expected May 20, shipping - who knows when, but likely this year. This is to compete with Apple's M# chips. Will we have a dual build option in Livecode (or is one even needed)? And, for the BIG QUESTION, how long is it likely to be after Windows on ARM is released to the public before we see a LC version that supports it? I know, this is probably way ahead of any practical answer, but I know we WILL have customers asking us if our app (built on LC9.6.11) will run on Windows on ARM on day one. Paul Dupuis Researchware ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Windows on ARM...
paul, lc apps that i built on win years ago are still running on win on arm (and have been, for three years), so i'm guessing there is at least an emulation mode. On Tue, Apr 9, 2024 at 3:04 PM Paul Dupuis via use-livecode < use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: > Mothership people (or anyone in the community that may know this): > > Microsoft is expected to port and release Windows running on ARM chips > (Surface laptops will use the Snapdragon X Elite processors from > Qualcomm) this year. Announcement expected May 20, shipping - who knows > when, but likely this year. This is to compete with Apple's M# chips. > > Will we have a dual build option in Livecode (or is one even needed)? > And, for the BIG QUESTION, how long is it likely to be after Windows on > ARM is released to the public before we see a LC version that supports it? > > I know, this is probably way ahead of any practical answer, but I know > we WILL have customers asking us if our app (built on LC9.6.11) will run > on Windows on ARM on day one. > > Paul Dupuis > Researchware > > > ___ > use-livecode mailing list > use-livecode@lists.runrev.com > Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your > subscription preferences: > http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode > -- On the first day, God created the heavens and the Earth On the second day, God created the oceans. On the third day, God put the animals on hold for a few hours, and did a little diving. And God said, "This is good." ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Xcode 15.01 working with LC?
i just did several builds with a similar setup, but my builds are achieving, and installing (using apple configurator). my test ipads are running 17.4.1 and 17.5 beta i have had a problem with one of our test ipads, but i don't know if it's related: mergAV isn't operating properly, but so far, it's only on one test ipad. we'll see if the fleet chokes on it, or not. On Tue, Apr 9, 2024 at 1:08 PM Ralph DiMola via use-livecode < use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: > I'm using LC 9.6.11 on an M1 Ventura with Xcode 15.0.1 (command line tools > point there) > I have built 2 of my apps and the both show splash screen then immediately > crashes before first card is shown. > I'm testing on an iPad mini iOS 12.5.7. When testing in the simulator it > starts but the app never gets installed and the standalone builder windows > hangs on "Launching app..." LC is unresponsive and a Force Quit is needed. > Any ideas? > Thanks > > Ralph DiMola > IT Director > Evergreen Information Services > rdim...@evergreeninfo.net > > -Original Message- > From: use-livecode [mailto:use-livecode-boun...@lists.runrev.com] On > Behalf Of Mike Kerner via use-livecode > Sent: Tuesday, April 09, 2024 9:33 AM > To: How to use LiveCode > Cc: Mike Kerner > Subject: Re: Xcode 15.01 working with LC? > > just tried it, again, and then started digging. > on the first attempt, i got the linking error then i fired up xc 15.0.1, > and looked at the xcode command-line tools - sure enough, it was set to > 14.2. i changed that to 15.0.1, and now the builds link with 9.6.11 and xc > 15.0.1 > > > On Mon, Apr 8, 2024 at 2:15 PM Andreas Bergendal via use-livecode < > use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: > > > Just to complicate matters, though: In the Forum, two people have > > confirmed successful iOS deployment with Xcode 15.0.1: > > https://forums.livecode.com/viewtopic.php?f=49=38849 > > > > /Andreas > > > > > > > 6 apr. 2024 kl. 22:35 skrev Mike Kerner via use-livecode < > > use-livecode@lists.runrev.com>: > > > > > > i should further note that in lc settings, if you select 15.0.1, you > > > will get the green box like all's well, but during the build you > > > will get an error, late. > > > > > > On Sat, Apr 6, 2024 at 4:34 PM Mike Kerner > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > >> it does not work, at least with 9.6.11 here's where you can find > > >> all the downloads, including xcode 15 > > >> https://developer.apple.com/download/all/?q=xcode > > >> > > >> On Sat, Apr 6, 2024 at 4:22 PM Klaus major-k via use-livecode < > > >> use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: > > >> > > >>> Hi friends, > > >>> > > >>> I am just setting up a new Mac Mini M2 and could not find Xcode > > >>> 15.0 as recommended by LCs release notes, only 15.01 on the Apple > > >>> Dev download pages. > > >>> > > >>> Will that work with LC? > > >>> Or does someone have a link to version 15.0? > > >>> > > >>> Thanks in advance! > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> Best > > >>> > > >>> Klaus > > >>> -- > > >>> Klaus Major > > >>> https://www.major-k.de > > >>> https://www.major-k.de/bass > > >>> kl...@major-k.de > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> ___ > > >>> use-livecode mailing list > > >>> use-livecode@lists.runrev.com > > >>> Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your > > >>> subscription preferences: > > >>> http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode > > >>> > > >> > > >> > > >> -- > > >> On the first day, God created the heavens and the Earth On the > > >> second day, God created the oceans. > > >> On the third day, God put the animals on hold for a few hours, > > >> and did a little diving. > > >> And God said, "This is good." > > >> > > > > > > > > > -- > > > On the first day, God created the heavens and the Earth On the > > > second day, God created the oceans. > > > On the third day, God put the animals on hold for a few hours, > > > and did a little diving. > > > And God said, "This is good." > > > ___ > > > use-livecode mailing list > > > use-livecode@lists.runrev.com > > > Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your > > subscription preferences: > > > http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode > > > > ___ > > use-livecode mailing list > > use-livecode@lists.runrev.com > > Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your > > subscription preferences: > > http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode > > > > > -- > On the first day, God created the heavens and the Earth On the second day, > God created the oceans. > On the third day, God put the animals on hold for a few hours, >and did a little diving. > And God said, "This is good." > ___ > use-livecode mailing list > use-livecode@lists.runrev.com > Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your > subscription preferences: >
Windows on ARM...
Mothership people (or anyone in the community that may know this): Microsoft is expected to port and release Windows running on ARM chips (Surface laptops will use the Snapdragon X Elite processors from Qualcomm) this year. Announcement expected May 20, shipping - who knows when, but likely this year. This is to compete with Apple's M# chips. Will we have a dual build option in Livecode (or is one even needed)? And, for the BIG QUESTION, how long is it likely to be after Windows on ARM is released to the public before we see a LC version that supports it? I know, this is probably way ahead of any practical answer, but I know we WILL have customers asking us if our app (built on LC9.6.11) will run on Windows on ARM on day one. Paul Dupuis Researchware ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
RE: Xcode 15.01 working with LC?
I'm using LC 9.6.11 on an M1 Ventura with Xcode 15.0.1 (command line tools point there) I have built 2 of my apps and the both show splash screen then immediately crashes before first card is shown. I'm testing on an iPad mini iOS 12.5.7. When testing in the simulator it starts but the app never gets installed and the standalone builder windows hangs on "Launching app..." LC is unresponsive and a Force Quit is needed. Any ideas? Thanks Ralph DiMola IT Director Evergreen Information Services rdim...@evergreeninfo.net -Original Message- From: use-livecode [mailto:use-livecode-boun...@lists.runrev.com] On Behalf Of Mike Kerner via use-livecode Sent: Tuesday, April 09, 2024 9:33 AM To: How to use LiveCode Cc: Mike Kerner Subject: Re: Xcode 15.01 working with LC? just tried it, again, and then started digging. on the first attempt, i got the linking error then i fired up xc 15.0.1, and looked at the xcode command-line tools - sure enough, it was set to 14.2. i changed that to 15.0.1, and now the builds link with 9.6.11 and xc 15.0.1 On Mon, Apr 8, 2024 at 2:15 PM Andreas Bergendal via use-livecode < use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: > Just to complicate matters, though: In the Forum, two people have > confirmed successful iOS deployment with Xcode 15.0.1: > https://forums.livecode.com/viewtopic.php?f=49=38849 > > /Andreas > > > > 6 apr. 2024 kl. 22:35 skrev Mike Kerner via use-livecode < > use-livecode@lists.runrev.com>: > > > > i should further note that in lc settings, if you select 15.0.1, you > > will get the green box like all's well, but during the build you > > will get an error, late. > > > > On Sat, Apr 6, 2024 at 4:34 PM Mike Kerner > > > > wrote: > > > >> it does not work, at least with 9.6.11 here's where you can find > >> all the downloads, including xcode 15 > >> https://developer.apple.com/download/all/?q=xcode > >> > >> On Sat, Apr 6, 2024 at 4:22 PM Klaus major-k via use-livecode < > >> use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: > >> > >>> Hi friends, > >>> > >>> I am just setting up a new Mac Mini M2 and could not find Xcode > >>> 15.0 as recommended by LCs release notes, only 15.01 on the Apple > >>> Dev download pages. > >>> > >>> Will that work with LC? > >>> Or does someone have a link to version 15.0? > >>> > >>> Thanks in advance! > >>> > >>> > >>> Best > >>> > >>> Klaus > >>> -- > >>> Klaus Major > >>> https://www.major-k.de > >>> https://www.major-k.de/bass > >>> kl...@major-k.de > >>> > >>> > >>> ___ > >>> use-livecode mailing list > >>> use-livecode@lists.runrev.com > >>> Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your > >>> subscription preferences: > >>> http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode > >>> > >> > >> > >> -- > >> On the first day, God created the heavens and the Earth On the > >> second day, God created the oceans. > >> On the third day, God put the animals on hold for a few hours, > >> and did a little diving. > >> And God said, "This is good." > >> > > > > > > -- > > On the first day, God created the heavens and the Earth On the > > second day, God created the oceans. > > On the third day, God put the animals on hold for a few hours, > > and did a little diving. > > And God said, "This is good." > > ___ > > use-livecode mailing list > > use-livecode@lists.runrev.com > > Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your > subscription preferences: > > http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode > > ___ > use-livecode mailing list > use-livecode@lists.runrev.com > Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your > subscription preferences: > http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode > -- On the first day, God created the heavens and the Earth On the second day, God created the oceans. On the third day, God put the animals on hold for a few hours, and did a little diving. And God said, "This is good." ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Xcode 15.01 working with LC?
just tried it, again, and then started digging. on the first attempt, i got the linking error then i fired up xc 15.0.1, and looked at the xcode command-line tools - sure enough, it was set to 14.2. i changed that to 15.0.1, and now the builds link with 9.6.11 and xc 15.0.1 On Mon, Apr 8, 2024 at 2:15 PM Andreas Bergendal via use-livecode < use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: > Just to complicate matters, though: In the Forum, two people have > confirmed successful iOS deployment with Xcode 15.0.1: > https://forums.livecode.com/viewtopic.php?f=49=38849 > > /Andreas > > > > 6 apr. 2024 kl. 22:35 skrev Mike Kerner via use-livecode < > use-livecode@lists.runrev.com>: > > > > i should further note that in lc settings, if you select 15.0.1, you will > > get the green box like all's well, but during the build you will get an > > error, late. > > > > On Sat, Apr 6, 2024 at 4:34 PM Mike Kerner > > wrote: > > > >> it does not work, at least with 9.6.11 > >> here's where you can find all the downloads, including xcode 15 > >> https://developer.apple.com/download/all/?q=xcode > >> > >> On Sat, Apr 6, 2024 at 4:22 PM Klaus major-k via use-livecode < > >> use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: > >> > >>> Hi friends, > >>> > >>> I am just setting up a new Mac Mini M2 and could not find > >>> Xcode 15.0 as recommended by LCs release notes, only 15.01 > >>> on the Apple Dev download pages. > >>> > >>> Will that work with LC? > >>> Or does someone have a link to version 15.0? > >>> > >>> Thanks in advance! > >>> > >>> > >>> Best > >>> > >>> Klaus > >>> -- > >>> Klaus Major > >>> https://www.major-k.de > >>> https://www.major-k.de/bass > >>> kl...@major-k.de > >>> > >>> > >>> ___ > >>> use-livecode mailing list > >>> use-livecode@lists.runrev.com > >>> Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your > >>> subscription preferences: > >>> http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode > >>> > >> > >> > >> -- > >> On the first day, God created the heavens and the Earth > >> On the second day, God created the oceans. > >> On the third day, God put the animals on hold for a few hours, > >> and did a little diving. > >> And God said, "This is good." > >> > > > > > > -- > > On the first day, God created the heavens and the Earth > > On the second day, God created the oceans. > > On the third day, God put the animals on hold for a few hours, > > and did a little diving. > > And God said, "This is good." > > ___ > > use-livecode mailing list > > use-livecode@lists.runrev.com > > Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your > subscription preferences: > > http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode > > ___ > use-livecode mailing list > use-livecode@lists.runrev.com > Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your > subscription preferences: > http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode > -- On the first day, God created the heavens and the Earth On the second day, God created the oceans. On the third day, God put the animals on hold for a few hours, and did a little diving. And God said, "This is good." ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
