Re: Hex to Decimal 2s Complement
Alex , You got it ! I forgot the > 32767 !! Great thanks Camm - Original Message - From: "Alex Tweedly via use-livecode" <use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> To: use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Cc: "Alex Tweedly" <a...@tweedly.net> Sent: Friday, 27 April, 2018 10:41:27 AM Subject: Re: Hex to Decimal 2s Complement I should know this - but don't any more :-) So there may be a corner case to fix up - but in general, something like *put*thetextoffld"F"intotemp* put*baseconvert(temp,16,10) intot1* if* t1 > 32767*then* *put*t1-65536intot1* end* *if* should do it. -- Alex. On 27/04/2018 10:27, Camm via use-livecode wrote: > Richmond , > > Yes , thanks > > I have seen xor(Hex) +1 , but just asking if anyone has a solution ? > > FFCC = -52 > > 014A = 330 > > Anyone ? > > Regards > Camm > > - Original Message - > From: "Richmond via use-livecode" <use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> > To: "Camm via use-livecode" <use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> > Cc: "Richmond" <richmondmathew...@gmail.com> > Sent: Friday, 27 April, 2018 10:22:36 AM > Subject: Re: Hex to Decimal 2s Complement > > I think you will have to perform several operations here: > > 1. convert Hex number to Binary number. > > 2. find Complement of Binary number. > > 3. convert Complement to Decimal number. > > Your "main problem" is that YOU have to work out the algorhythm to > > get the complement as LiveCode does not have that built-in to its system. > > Richmond. > > > On 27.04.2018 12:17, Camm via use-livecode wrote: >> Two's complement is a mathematical operation on binary numbers, best known >> for its role in computing as a method of signed number representation. For >> this reason, it is the most important example of a radix complement. >> >> The two's complement of an N-bit number is defined as its complement with >> respect to 2N. For instance, for the three-bit number 010, the two's >> complement is 110, because 010 + 110 = 1000. >> >> Regards >> Camm >> - Original Message - >> From: "Richmond via use-livecode" <use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> >> To: "Camm via use-livecode" <use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> >> Cc: "Richmond" <richmondmathew...@gmail.com> >> Sent: Friday, 27 April, 2018 10:11:19 AM >> Subject: Re: Hex to Decimal 2s Complement >> >> Well, unless you can explain to me what "2s Complement" means I cannot >> help you. >> >> Richmond. >> >> >> On 27.04.2018 12:06, Camm via use-livecode wrote: >>> Richmond , >>> >>> Tried baseconvert but could not get the correct result for 2s Complement. >>> >>> Regards >>> Camm >>> >>> - Original Message - >>> From: "Richmond via use-livecode" <use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> >>> To: "Camm via use-livecode" <use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> >>> Cc: "Richmond" <richmondmathew...@gmail.com> >>> Sent: Friday, 27 April, 2018 10:01:17 AM >>> Subject: Re: Hex to Decimal 2s Complement >>> >>> Check out *baseConvert* in the dictionary. >>> >>> Richmond. >>> >>> >>> On 27.04.2018 11:50, Camm via use-livecode wrote: >>>> Hi , >>>> >>>> >>>> Help needed on the most efficient way to convert signed Hex to Decimal (2s >>>> Complement) range - >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Example :- >>>> >>>> >>>> FFCC = -52 >>>> >>>> >>>> 014A = 330 >>>> >>>> >>>> Kind Regards >>>> Camm >>>> ___ >>>> use-livecode mailing list >>>> use-livecode@lists.runrev.com >>>> Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your >>>> subscription preferences: >>>> http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode >>> ___ >>> use-livecode mailing list >>> use-livecode@lists.runrev.com >>> Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your >>> subscription preferences: >>> http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode >>> >>> ___ >>> use-livecode mailing list >>> use-livecode@lists.runrev.com >>> Ple
Re: Hex to Decimal 2s Complement
Richmond , Yes , thanks I have seen xor(Hex) +1 , but just asking if anyone has a solution ? FFCC = -52 014A = 330 Anyone ? Regards Camm - Original Message - From: "Richmond via use-livecode" <use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> To: "Camm via use-livecode" <use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> Cc: "Richmond" <richmondmathew...@gmail.com> Sent: Friday, 27 April, 2018 10:22:36 AM Subject: Re: Hex to Decimal 2s Complement I think you will have to perform several operations here: 1. convert Hex number to Binary number. 2. find Complement of Binary number. 3. convert Complement to Decimal number. Your "main problem" is that YOU have to work out the algorhythm to get the complement as LiveCode does not have that built-in to its system. Richmond. On 27.04.2018 12:17, Camm via use-livecode wrote: > Two's complement is a mathematical operation on binary numbers, best known > for its role in computing as a method of signed number representation. For > this reason, it is the most important example of a radix complement. > > The two's complement of an N-bit number is defined as its complement with > respect to 2N. For instance, for the three-bit number 010, the two's > complement is 110, because 010 + 110 = 1000. > > Regards > Camm > - Original Message - > From: "Richmond via use-livecode" <use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> > To: "Camm via use-livecode" <use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> > Cc: "Richmond" <richmondmathew...@gmail.com> > Sent: Friday, 27 April, 2018 10:11:19 AM > Subject: Re: Hex to Decimal 2s Complement > > Well, unless you can explain to me what "2s Complement" means I cannot > help you. > > Richmond. > > > On 27.04.2018 12:06, Camm via use-livecode wrote: >> Richmond , >> >> Tried baseconvert but could not get the correct result for 2s Complement. >> >> Regards >> Camm >> >> - Original Message - >> From: "Richmond via use-livecode" <use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> >> To: "Camm via use-livecode" <use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> >> Cc: "Richmond" <richmondmathew...@gmail.com> >> Sent: Friday, 27 April, 2018 10:01:17 AM >> Subject: Re: Hex to Decimal 2s Complement >> >> Check out *baseConvert* in the dictionary. >> >> Richmond. >> >> >> On 27.04.2018 11:50, Camm via use-livecode wrote: >>> Hi , >>> >>> >>> Help needed on the most efficient way to convert signed Hex to Decimal (2s >>> Complement) range - >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> Example :- >>> >>> >>> FFCC = -52 >>> >>> >>> 014A = 330 >>> >>> >>> Kind Regards >>> Camm >>> ___ >>> use-livecode mailing list >>> use-livecode@lists.runrev.com >>> Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your >>> subscription preferences: >>> http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode >> ___ >> use-livecode mailing list >> use-livecode@lists.runrev.com >> Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription >> preferences: >> http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode >> >> ___ >> use-livecode mailing list >> use-livecode@lists.runrev.com >> Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription >> preferences: >> http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode > > ___ > use-livecode mailing list > use-livecode@lists.runrev.com > Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription > preferences: > http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode > > ___ > use-livecode mailing list > use-livecode@lists.runrev.com > Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription > preferences: > http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Hex to Decimal 2s Complement
Two's complement is a mathematical operation on binary numbers, best known for its role in computing as a method of signed number representation. For this reason, it is the most important example of a radix complement. The two's complement of an N-bit number is defined as its complement with respect to 2N. For instance, for the three-bit number 010, the two's complement is 110, because 010 + 110 = 1000. Regards Camm - Original Message - From: "Richmond via use-livecode" <use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> To: "Camm via use-livecode" <use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> Cc: "Richmond" <richmondmathew...@gmail.com> Sent: Friday, 27 April, 2018 10:11:19 AM Subject: Re: Hex to Decimal 2s Complement Well, unless you can explain to me what "2s Complement" means I cannot help you. Richmond. On 27.04.2018 12:06, Camm via use-livecode wrote: > Richmond , > > Tried baseconvert but could not get the correct result for 2s Complement. > > Regards > Camm > > - Original Message ----- > From: "Richmond via use-livecode" <use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> > To: "Camm via use-livecode" <use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> > Cc: "Richmond" <richmondmathew...@gmail.com> > Sent: Friday, 27 April, 2018 10:01:17 AM > Subject: Re: Hex to Decimal 2s Complement > > Check out *baseConvert* in the dictionary. > > Richmond. > > > On 27.04.2018 11:50, Camm via use-livecode wrote: >> Hi , >> >> >> Help needed on the most efficient way to convert signed Hex to Decimal (2s >> Complement) range - >> >> >> >> >> Example :- >> >> >> FFCC = -52 >> >> >> 014A = 330 >> >> >> Kind Regards >> Camm >> ___ >> use-livecode mailing list >> use-livecode@lists.runrev.com >> Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription >> preferences: >> http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode > ___ > use-livecode mailing list > use-livecode@lists.runrev.com > Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription > preferences: > http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode > > ___ > use-livecode mailing list > use-livecode@lists.runrev.com > Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription > preferences: > http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Hex to Decimal 2s Complement
Richmond , Tried baseconvert but could not get the correct result for 2s Complement. Regards Camm - Original Message - From: "Richmond via use-livecode" <use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> To: "Camm via use-livecode" <use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> Cc: "Richmond" <richmondmathew...@gmail.com> Sent: Friday, 27 April, 2018 10:01:17 AM Subject: Re: Hex to Decimal 2s Complement Check out *baseConvert* in the dictionary. Richmond. On 27.04.2018 11:50, Camm via use-livecode wrote: > Hi , > > > Help needed on the most efficient way to convert signed Hex to Decimal (2s > Complement) range - > > > > > Example :- > > > FFCC = -52 > > > 014A = 330 > > > Kind Regards > Camm > ___ > use-livecode mailing list > use-livecode@lists.runrev.com > Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription > preferences: > http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Hex to Decimal 2s Complement
Hi , Help needed on the most efficient way to convert signed Hex to Decimal (2s Complement) range - Example :- FFCC = -52 014A = 330 Kind Regards Camm ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Duplicate Card
Hi , Is Duplicate card broke in 8.1.6 ? I get Duplicate card highlighted then when pressed the duplicate does not appear ? Regards Camm ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
RE: RIP Dan Shafer
It was his book that got me started with Revolution ! Thanks to him i'm hooked , RIP and sorry for the loss. Camm -Original Message- From: use-livecode [mailto:use-livecode-boun...@lists.runrev.com] On Behalf Of Jim Lambert via use-livecode Sent: 22 June 2017 19:55 To: use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Cc: Jim Lambert Subject: Re: RIP Dan Shafer But Dan’s excellent work lives on. Jim Lambert ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode --- This email has been checked for viruses by AVG. http://www.avg.com ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
RE: AW: Which code signing authority?
Second that ! -Original Message- From: use-livecode [mailto:use-livecode-boun...@lists.runrev.com] On Behalf Of tbodine via use-livecode Sent: 21 April 2017 14:17 To: use-revolut...@lists.runrev.com Cc: tbodine Subject: Re: AW: Which code signing authority? I've been using K Software's Comodo certs to sign Windows standalones and installers for at least five years. The support provided by the owner of K Software is quite good. (Example: http://certhelp.ksoftware.net/support/home ) Tom B. -- View this message in context: http://runtime-revolution.278305.n4.nabble.com/Which-code-signing-authority- tp4714079p4714101.html Sent from the Revolution - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode --- This email has been checked for viruses by AVG. http://www.avg.com ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Moving from 6.6.1 to 8.0.0 Handlers vanished
Hi , Thanks all. Yes , I put in a space , applied and saved. Opened again , no change , then put space in and apply this time error for using "until" in repeat. Put that right and all handlers appeared , as you said. Great !! Regards Camm - Original Message - From: "Richard Gaskin" <ambassa...@fourthworld.com> To: use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Sent: Wednesday, 27 July, 2016 6:39:45 PM Subject: Re: Moving from 6.6.1 to 8.0.0 Handlers vanished Camm wrote: > No syntax error just all handlers missing LC8 You may want to double-check that the splitter at the bottom of the window isn't pulled all the way down. That's normally where compilation errors are reported, but if it's collapsed you may not see them. A single error preventing a script from compiling will exhibit the symptoms described. -- Richard Gaskin Fourth World Systems Software Design and Development for the Desktop, Mobile, and the Web ambassa...@fourthworld.comhttp://www.FourthWorld.com ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Moving from 6.6.1 to 8.0.0 Handlers vanished
No syntax error just all handlers missing LC8 So in LC6xx on Fish statement... statement... end Fish on Dog statement... statement... end Dog Fish and Dog appear in Handler List and Statements execute fine. In LC8 Fish and Dog do not appear in Handler List , so when called the "Handler :cannot find handler" error. Regards Camm - Original Message - From: "Paul Dupuis" <p...@researchware.com> To: use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Sent: Tuesday, 26 July, 2016 8:01:06 PM Subject: Re: Moving from 6.6.1 to 8.0.0 Handlers vanished What you are seeing is a behavior where in LC 8 the engine sees something in the script that is a syntax error that LC6 regards as fine. Open the script in 8, make a small change and try to apply and it should tell you what it thing is the syntax error. On 7/26/2016 1:40 PM, Camm wrote: > Hello , > > > I may have missed something minor but had to stay with 6.6.1 until serial > port issue addressed. This was addressed in version 8.0.0 so I upgraded. > > > Now when 8.0.0 loads the stack no handlers appear in the handler list ? > All the script was in "Stack Script" which can be seen but no handlers in the > list. > > > When the script runs " Handler :cannot find handler" error. > > > Went back to 6.6.1 and all is fine. > > > Thanks in advance. > Camm > ___ > use-livecode mailing list > use-livecode@lists.runrev.com > Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription > preferences: > http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode > ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Moving from 6.6.1 to 8.0.0 Handlers vanished
Hello , I may have missed something minor but had to stay with 6.6.1 until serial port issue addressed. This was addressed in version 8.0.0 so I upgraded. Now when 8.0.0 loads the stack no handlers appear in the handler list ? All the script was in "Stack Script" which can be seen but no handlers in the list. When the script runs " Handler :cannot find handler" error. Went back to 6.6.1 and all is fine. Thanks in advance. Camm ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
RE: OT(ish): Selling software downloads - sales tax?
All , Just to be clear the EU VAT change Jan 2016 applies to even 1 download if sold to any EU member state customer at their current VAT rate. It applies to any digital product that is downloaded with no physical fulfilment , its defined by "minimal user input to obtain download" so even if you sale licence keys the new rules apply. Simple flowchart :- https://www.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/415931/VAT_MOSS_Flow_chart_FSB_edit_V1_0.pdf Camm -Original Message- From: use-livecode [mailto:use-livecode-boun...@lists.runrev.com] On Behalf Of Warren Samples Sent: 17 March 2016 23:25 To: How to use LiveCode Subject: Re: OT(ish): Selling software downloads - sales tax? On 03/17/2016 01:06 PM, Graham Samuel wrote: > I have been discussing the sale of a desktop product (developed with > LC, obviously) with a colleague. We’re thinking of direct sales...He’s > in the US > > ..sell a low volume of product purely as a download with no physical > fulfilment...I am not sure about the US. There is no sales tax charged for any online sales in the US except for sales to customers located within a state where the vendor has a physical office or point of sale. Your stateside partner probably knows this already. As far as software with no physical delivery goes, it could be considered several different ways which will vary from state to state but again you are only concerned with how the state where he is qualifies it. Ask your partner to contact the revenue department of the state in which he resides and ask them how to proceed. That would be the only state where you have any possible obligation and even then, depending on how your partnership/company is structured and how they consider this kind of product, you might not have any at all. https://www.sba.gov/content/collecting-sales-tax-over-internet http://biztaxlaw.about.com/od/businesstaxes/f/onlinesalestax.htm http://www.inc.com/articles/2003/10/salestax.html Good luck! Warren ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2016.0.7497 / Virus Database: 4542/11842 - Release Date: 03/19/16 - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2016.0.7497 / Virus Database: 4542/11842 - Release Date: 03/19/16 - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2016.0.7497 / Virus Database: 4542/11842 - Release Date: 03/19/16 - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2016.0.7497 / Virus Database: 4542/11842 - Release Date: 03/19/16 ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: OT(ish): Selling software downloads - sales tax?
I sell from the UK and went over to FastSpring due to the new VAT rules for downloads. Works fine and no worries about VAT. You can select to show the applicable VAT charge up front or at added at checkout for the customer. Then all you need to do is declare Wholesale Sales from FastSpring as earnings. Of course there are fees per transaction but its worth it ! I assume KAGI and others are similar. Regards Camm - Original Message - From: "Matthias Rebbe" <matthias_livecode_150...@m-r-d.de> To: "How to use LiveCode" <use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> Sent: Thursday, 17 March, 2016 6:55:09 PM Subject: Re: OT(ish): Selling software downloads - sales tax? Graham, if you want to go the save way, then you should consider using a service like Fastspring, KAGI or other. They will fulfill the complete order,payment and deliver process for you including VAT if applicable. You will get your earnings and do not have to think about VAT. Since 1st January as an european reseller you have to use the VAT-rate of the buyers country when selling digital products like videostreaming, licenses, downloads or whatever. Before that date you could use the VAT-Rate of your country. At least here in Germany the 1st January was the deadline. I am not sure if all european countries already made this mandatory , but it is a european wide thing. Because of this regulation i switched to KAGI and do not have to worry about the VAT stuff. Btw. if you want to protect your app you should think about Zygodact http://www.hyperactivesw.com/solutions_zygodact.html <http://www.hyperactivesw.com/solutions_zygodact.html> . It provides you an very easy to use registration serial key system to your LiveCode standalone or stack. It creates for each app a separate registration stack and a key generator stack. I am using Zygodact with KAGI order system. KAGI´s order system supports Livecode stacks. So after successful payment KAGI automatically to creates the registration key using a stack with key generator substack and sends out the registration info to the customer. That works like a charm. Regards, Matthias > Am 17.03.2016 um 19:06 schrieb Graham Samuel <livf...@mac.com > <mailto:livf...@mac.com>>: > > I have been discussing the sale of a desktop product (developed with LC, > obviously) with a colleague. We’re thinking of direct sales, rather than > selling via an agent or an app store type of arrangement. He’s in the US and > I’m in the UK, or at any rate the EU. > > I think that if I sell a low volume of product purely as a download with no > physical fulfilment, I won’t have to charge sales tax anywhere in the > European Union. But I am not sure about the US. It seems that some states > charge sales tax on everything, while others (California, perhaps?) don’t > charge if there is no physical fulfilment. I am not sure if the volume (or > more accurately, the total value of sales per year) comes into it or not. It > certainly does in Europe. > > Some people on this list are selling apps, stacks etc in this way - can > anyone explain how they see this? > > This may not be the right place to discuss the issue, but looking at the only > forum topic which seems close - ‘Marketing Your Products’ - it seems pretty > dead. > > TIA > > Graham > ___ > use-livecode mailing list > use-livecode@lists.runrev.com <mailto:use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> > Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription > preferences: > http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode > <http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode> ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
RE: Hangs and graphics issue after 6.6.1
Thanks , I will compile something to put to RR. Is it possible the empty used in the FullScreenMode is conflicting with the read from driver until empty ?? Regards Camm -Original Message- From: use-livecode [mailto:use-livecode-boun...@lists.runrev.com] On Behalf Of Paul Hibbert Sent: 02 January 2015 16:16 To: How to use LiveCode Subject: Re: Hangs and graphics issue after 6.6.1 Hi Camm, This would be very useful to report at http://quality.runrev.com If you have a stack or multiple stacks with a recipe that can demonstrate the problem and you can upload them with the report I'm sure RR will be onto it very quickly. If you only have a stack(s) that you don't wish to share publicly, you can set the report then email the stack(s) to qual...@runrev.com they will fully respect your privacy. If you have any problems posting the report, then get in touch with supp...@runrev.com and they will help you. I'm sure this will be your best route to resolving this problem, and it may help others in the future too and will make LiveCode stronger in the process. Regards, Paul On Jan 2, 2015, at 5:47 AM, Camm cam...@tesco.net wrote: Hi , The last standalone I built was using 6.6.0 , that was very stable for my application (Windows 7). Tested also on 6.6.1 Build (4005) and still ok But now I have found that from 6.6.2 to 7 random hangs and poor rendering of graphics (Tactile Media Gauges) on Full screen Mode. Read from driver xxx until empty is a problem and will hang on occasion. Is it best to stick with 6.6.1 ? Regards Camm -Original Message- From: use-livecode [mailto:use-livecode-boun...@lists.runrev.com] On Behalf Of Camm Sent: 30 December 2014 16:59 To: use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Subject: Problem with read from driver until empty in 7.01 Hi , I use read from driver xxx until empty To empty read buffer when using serial comms. In 6.7 this works fine but in 7.01 causes random hangs if used. Regards Camm ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2014.0.4794 / Virus Database: 4253/8839 - Release Date: 12/30/14 - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2014.0.4794 / Virus Database: 4253/8839 - Release Date: 12/30/14 - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2014.0.4794 / Virus Database: 4253/8839 - Release Date: 12/30/14 - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2014.0.4794 / Virus Database: 4253/8839 - Release Date: 12/30/14 ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2014.0.4794 / Virus Database: 4253/8855 - Release Date: 01/02/15 - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2014.0.4794 / Virus Database: 4253/8855 - Release Date: 01/02/15 - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2014.0.4794 / Virus Database: 4253/8855 - Release Date: 01/02/15 - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2014.0.4794 / Virus Database: 4253/8855 - Release Date: 01/02/15 ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Hangs and graphics issue after 6.6.1
Hi , The last standalone I built was using 6.6.0 , that was very stable for my application (Windows 7). Tested also on 6.6.1 Build (4005) and still ok But now I have found that from 6.6.2 to 7 random hangs and poor rendering of graphics (Tactile Media Gauges) on Full screen Mode. Read from driver xxx until empty is a problem and will hang on occasion. Is it best to stick with 6.6.1 ? Regards Camm -Original Message- From: use-livecode [mailto:use-livecode-boun...@lists.runrev.com] On Behalf Of Camm Sent: 30 December 2014 16:59 To: use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Subject: Problem with read from driver until empty in 7.01 Hi , I use read from driver xxx until empty To empty read buffer when using serial comms. In 6.7 this works fine but in 7.01 causes random hangs if used. Regards Camm ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2014.0.4794 / Virus Database: 4253/8839 - Release Date: 12/30/14 - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2014.0.4794 / Virus Database: 4253/8839 - Release Date: 12/30/14 - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2014.0.4794 / Virus Database: 4253/8839 - Release Date: 12/30/14 - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2014.0.4794 / Virus Database: 4253/8839 - Release Date: 12/30/14 ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Problem with read from driver until empty in 7.01
Hi , I use read from driver xxx until empty To empty read buffer when using serial comms. In 6.7 this works fine but in 7.01 causes random hangs if used. Regards Camm ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Script will not Run unless mouse is moved within Stack
Hello , Not sure if I have missed something ? On OpenStack put DOG INTO FLD Fa1 wait 5 seconds put CAT INTO FLD Fa2 wait 5 seconds put FISH INTO FLD Fa3 end Openstack put CAT and FISH will not work until the mouse if moved inside the mainstack ? Best Regards Camm ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Script will not Run unless mouse is moved within Stack
Okay , thanks. Even with mouse position outside of stack ? Regards Camm - Original Message - From: dunb...@aol.com To: use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Sent: Tuesday, 19 August, 2014 1:32:28 PM Subject: Re: Script will not Run unless mouse is moved within Stack Nothing wrong at all. Works fine for me, as it ought to. Craig Newman -Original Message- From: Camm cam...@tesco.net To: use-livecode use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Sent: Tue, Aug 19, 2014 8:15 am Subject: Script will not Run unless mouse is moved within Stack Hello , Not sure if I have missed something ? On OpenStack put DOG INTO FLD Fa1 wait 5 seconds put CAT INTO FLD Fa2 wait 5 seconds put FISH INTO FLD Fa3 end Openstack put CAT and FISH will not work until the mouse if moved inside the mainstack ? Best Regards Camm ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
RE: Script will not Run unless mouse is moved within Stack
Ralph , Yes Windows. I will add to bug report. Regards Camm -Original Message- From: use-livecode [mailto:use-livecode-boun...@lists.runrev.com] On Behalf Of Ralph DiMola Sent: 19 August 2014 16:54 To: 'How to use LiveCode' Subject: RE: Script will not Run unless mouse is moved within Stack Are you running Windows? I have the same problem. Reported as bug 12361. See== http://quality.runrev.com/show_bug.cgi?id=12361 Ralph DiMola IT Director Evergreen Information Services rdim...@evergreeninfo.net -Original Message- From: use-livecode [mailto:use-livecode-boun...@lists.runrev.com] On Behalf Of Camm Sent: Tuesday, August 19, 2014 8:15 AM To: use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Subject: Script will not Run unless mouse is moved within Stack Hello , Not sure if I have missed something ? On OpenStack put DOG INTO FLD Fa1 wait 5 seconds put CAT INTO FLD Fa2 wait 5 seconds put FISH INTO FLD Fa3 end Openstack put CAT and FISH will not work until the mouse if moved inside the mainstack ? Best Regards Camm ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2014.0.4745 / Virus Database: 4007/8053 - Release Date: 08/17/14 - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2014.0.4745 / Virus Database: 4007/8053 - Release Date: 08/17/14 - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2014.0.4745 / Virus Database: 4007/8053 - Release Date: 08/17/14 - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2014.0.4745 / Virus Database: 4007/8053 - Release Date: 08/17/14 ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
7.0.0 dp 5 Serial Communications fail
Hi , Serial Communications seems to be broke in 7.0.0 dp 5 , noticed this was listed as bug fix ? Regards Camm ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Quitting a Standalone Problem
Hi , Had no problem using quit in all versions , How do you intent to initiate the quit ? Regards Camm - Original Message - From: Charles Szasz csz...@me.com To: use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Sent: Thursday, 27 March, 2014 2:55:35 AM Subject: Quitting a Standalone Problem Is there a standard script for quitting windows standalones? I have run into this problem on Windows XP, Windows 7 and 8. The Rev Archives indicate that there was a bug In quitting standalones. Was this bug resolved in LC 5.5.5? A link to a solution in the archives is no longer active. Sent from my iPad ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: [OT] MIA
Monte , Sincere condolences to you and your Wife. Steve - Original Message - From: Monte Goulding mo...@sweattechnologies.com To: How to use LiveCode use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Sent: Monday, 20 January, 2014 8:12:50 PM Subject: [OT] MIA Hi Folks I'm going to be off the reservation for a little while. For those that knew we had a baby due in a couple of weeks we lost her yesterday and I just need to focus on family for a while. If my friends here notice anyone getting upset about lack of communication from me/mergExt on the forums etc could you please let people know I'll be back when life settles down a bit. Thanks Monte -- M E R Goulding Software development services mergExt - There's an external for that! ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
RE: [OT] Vido Mini One - android tablet
As a test device for LiveCode it's a cost effective option , powerful and fast. Does a great job for LiveCode Android development , so even if it's not a consumer best buy it will pay for itself at least. Regards Camm -Original Message- From: use-livecode [mailto:use-livecode-boun...@lists.runrev.com] On Behalf Of Richmond Sent: 06 October 2013 21:52 To: How to use LiveCode Subject: Re: [OT] Vido Mini One - android tablet On 10/06/2013 09:49 PM, Alejandro Tejada wrote: Hi Richmond, Richmond Mathewson-2 wrote The Stealing-from-the-People's Republic of China are not noted for their sparkling ecological track record . . . as well as the way they treat their citizens and so forth. If History serves of any indication... in the future, China will have many Kingdoms, just like it had in the beginning of their history. Oh; that sounds like the European Union. Certainly a lot better than what is going on at the moment. The notion of creating industrial products that lose all their value in the hands of their shoppers/owners is the most aberrant perversion that a scientist could create. (Industrial Engineers are scientist too!) King Camp Gillette. Surely the idea is to create a product that goes wrong after a sufficiently long time that people will then buy the upgraded version? About 8 years ago I walked round all the myriad computer shops here in Plovdiv, Bulgaria (selling new and second-hand machines) waving Free Ubuntu disks: I was informed by every single shop-owner that although they knew that Linux was a more stable system that would squeeze more power out of a PC they didn't want my disks because: 1. If they installed Linux instead of Windows XP customers would not returned with virused machines on average once every 6-8 weeks and pay money to have them sorted out. 2. If they installed Linux customers would not come and buy higher-spec machines or motherboard upgrades and what-have-you when the next, more power-hungry version of Windows came out. My father, who lives in Britain, reckoned that the cost of ownership of a Toshiba laptop with Windows XP came to about 25 pounds per month, plus a loss of about 3 days a month when it was down the road at the fixit shop. Having had Ubuntu Linux on the same machine for the past 5 years all it has cost him is about 5 hours a year when I back up his and Mum's files and install the latest version of Ubuntu. For years when I was a kid the cheap crap came from Hong Kong and Taiwan (mainly because at that time Britain had not climbed into bed with red China and dumped blue China). Obviously Chinese businessmen of all political persuasions realise that the Western devils have an unlimited appetite for things that fall to bits in one's hands. A lots of Western businessmen are also well aware of this, and are hiring Chinese companies to make stuff that falls to bits in one's hands but has western labelling that used to stand for quality but does not any more: this is, arguably an even more cynical type of business than stuff that carries Chinese labelling. The way to go is DIY/RIY (repair it yourself). That is exactly right. But prior to that it is not a bad idea to avoid buying cheap rubbish to start with. Only wait for better prices and more options: http://www.androidauthority.com/oracle-dukepad-tablet-277688/ Al Richmond. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2013.0.3408 / Virus Database: 3222/6727 - Release Date: 10/06/13 - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2013.0.3408 / Virus Database: 3222/6727 - Release Date: 10/06/13 - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2013.0.3408 / Virus Database: 3222/6727 - Release Date: 10/06/13 - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2013.0.3408 / Virus Database: 3222/6727 - Release Date: 10/06/13 ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Missing APPLY button on IDE
Hi , On Windows 7:- The Apply button is missing on the script editor in IDE ?? Also errors shown but do not go to script line number ?? Any clues .. Regards Camm ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
RE: Missing APPLY button on IDE
I found the simple problem.. In the top far right of script editor page it has an up or down arrow to hide or not the script editor toolbar ! Must have clicked it by mistake , it stops the red cross as well ? Regards Camm -Original Message- From: use-livecode [mailto:use-livecode-boun...@lists.runrev.com] On Behalf Of Richmond Sent: 28 July 2013 14:45 To: How to use LiveCode Subject: Re: Missing APPLY button on IDE On 07/28/2013 04:11 PM, Camm wrote: Hi , On Windows 7:- The Apply button is missing on the script editor in IDE ?? Also errors shown but do not go to script line number ?? Any clues .. Regards Camm Which version are you using? I just had a go with LC 6.1.1 rc 1 Community on Windows 7 and had no problem seeing the 'Apply' button. Similarly with where the BIG RED X ends up when there is a script error. How about posting the odd picture to the Forums : http://forums.runrev.com/index.php so we can all see what you mean. Richmond. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2013.0.3349 / Virus Database: 3209/6527 - Release Date: 07/28/13 - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2013.0.3349 / Virus Database: 3209/6527 - Release Date: 07/28/13 - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2013.0.3349 / Virus Database: 3209/6527 - Release Date: 07/28/13 - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2013.0.3349 / Virus Database: 3209/6527 - Release Date: 07/28/13 ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Card auto sizing
It it possible to auto size a card to the size of a field of that card ? If so , what is the best way please. Regards Camm ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: bluetooth and LC
It is possible will older versions of Runrev , latest LC versions have a problem. Bug 10230 - which is being looked into. This using RS232 over Bluetooth. Regards Camm - Original Message - From: ddas d...@digifilm.com To: How to use LiveCode use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Sent: Thursday, 28 June, 2012 4:13:01 AM Subject: Re: bluetooth and LC Hi Dr. Vokey, Are you using an IBVA system by any chance, Regards, Debdoot On Mar 14, 2012, at 6:54 PM, Vokey, John wrote: All, I am completely naive on this, but as I am getting a new portable EEG device for my lab that communicates by bluetooth, I thought I would ask whether any of the many genius coders on this list know how to read the raw data from a bluetooth device from LiveCard? The machine comes with software, but would prefer to handle it on my own within LC. -- Please avoid sending me Word or PowerPoint attachments. See http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/no-word-attachments.html -Dr. John R. Vokey ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
BUG 10230 - RS232 Serial Comms broken in versions later than 4.5 to 4.6.4
This has now been reported as a bug. http://quality.runrev.com/show_bug.cgi?id=10230 Regards Camm -Original Message- From: use-livecode-boun...@lists.runrev.com [mailto:use-livecode-boun...@lists.runrev.com] On Behalf Of Camm Sent: 22 May 2012 19:56 To: 'How to use LiveCode' Subject: RS232 Serial Comms broken in 4.6.4 On Windows 7 :- Using USB - RS232 adapter and/or BLUETOOTH/USB - RS232 adapter My Serial RS232 Script works on Version 3.5.0 Sarah Reichelt's Serial Test script works on Version 3.5.0 My Serial RS232 Script fails to receive on Version 4.6.4 Sarah Reichelt's Serial Test script fails to receive on Version 4.6.4 Something is broke in LiveCode later versions help !! Regards Camm -Original Message- From: use-livecode-boun...@lists.runrev.com [mailto:use-livecode-boun...@lists.runrev.com] On Behalf Of Camm Sent: 14 May 2012 14:55 To: How to use LiveCode Subject: Re: Serial Comms in 4.6.4 Dar, It is the same as this I found below , If complied on 4.0.0 it works , If complied on later versions if fails to read. Regards Camm On Nov 7, 2010, at 10:07 AM, J. Landman Gay wrote: On 11/7/10 9:18 AM, Larry Walker wrote: I am trying to read data from a serial port (using a USB-serial adaptor). Glad to see this here Larry. Just to fill everyone in, Larry and I have been going around with this issue for about a week in the tech queue without success (and I really appreciate his patience, he's been incredibly reasonable about it.) I asked Mark Waddingham about the problem and he said that basically the serial commands haven't been changed since their initial implementation back in MetaCard, and that any device that represents itself as a serial device should work with open file (but not necessarily with the device name returned by the drivernames. Use modem: or printer: instead.) He also said that they have never been reworked to support OS X; they were originally written for OS 9 and have always continued to work in OS X, so the code hasn't been examined. Eric's comment that it works in 4.0 and not in 4.5 is something I don't think the team knows about. Since serial access hasn't changed in the engine, there must be some other change that peripherally affects serial port access. If that's so, then a bug report in the QCC would be in order. I hope either Sarah or Phil will see this, since they are the serial/USB experts here. Maybe they have some comments to add or a workaround they've discovered. - Original Message - From: Dar Scott d...@swcp.com To: How to use LiveCode use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Sent: Sunday, 13 May, 2012 8:17:45 PM Subject: Re: Serial Comms in 4.6.4 I'm not sure what you mean. Are you saying you upgraded to Windows 7 and LiveCode 4.6.4 at the same time? I have heard that some people have had trouble with Windows 7 and serial ports. Perhaps modems are especially an issue. Do you see the port in the device manager? Can you connect with HyperTerminal? What error results do you get? (You might have to create a version of your script that logs those.) Have the scripts ever worked on this Windows 7 installation? As you can probably tell, I'm leaning towards eliminating non-LiveCode issues and then looking at the script, but the script errors can give clues to both. Dar On May 13, 2012, at 4:23 AM, Camm wrote: Dar , Windows 7 All hardware has been checked okay. When using read from driver in scripts loaded into 4.6.4 or standalone from 4.6.4 nothing is read ? The identical script loaded in pre-windows 7 Livecode releases work. Thanks Camm -Original Message- From: use-livecode-boun...@lists.runrev.com [mailto:use-livecode-boun...@lists.runrev.com] On Behalf Of Dar Scott Sent: 13 May 2012 05:43 To: How to use LiveCode Subject: Re: Serial Comms in 4.6.4 Hi, Camm! I don't remember any changes. Maybe this can be tracked down. What OS? How does it fail? However, you might want to rule out other things. I find the most common reason that a serial communications program suddenly fails is a cable issue. Usually the handshake lines don't make it trough or something else is wrong in the wiring. Sometimes the USB-to-serial adaptor is an issue. Dar On May 12, 2012, at 3:30 PM, Camm wrote: Has something changed in the use of open , close , read , write driver and/or SerialControlString string in version 4.6.4. I have a stack for serial comms that works fine if run in older versions of Livecode , but fails to read in version 4.6.4 Same script ?? Regards Camm --- Dar Scott dba Dar Scott Consulting 8637 Horacio Place NE Albuquerque, NM 87111 Lab, home, office phone: +1 505 299 9497 For Skype and fax, please contact. d...@swcp.com Computer Programming and tinkering, often making LiveCode libraries and externals, sometimes writing associated microcontroller firmware
RS232 Serial Comms broken in 4.6.4
On Windows 7 :- Using USB - RS232 adapter and/or BLUETOOTH/USB - RS232 adapter My Serial RS232 Script works on Version 3.5.0 Sarah Reichelt's Serial Test script works on Version 3.5.0 My Serial RS232 Script fails to receive on Version 4.6.4 Sarah Reichelt's Serial Test script fails to receive on Version 4.6.4 Something is broke in LiveCode later versions help !! Regards Camm -Original Message- From: use-livecode-boun...@lists.runrev.com [mailto:use-livecode-boun...@lists.runrev.com] On Behalf Of Camm Sent: 14 May 2012 14:55 To: How to use LiveCode Subject: Re: Serial Comms in 4.6.4 Dar, It is the same as this I found below , If complied on 4.0.0 it works , If complied on later versions if fails to read. Regards Camm On Nov 7, 2010, at 10:07 AM, J. Landman Gay wrote: On 11/7/10 9:18 AM, Larry Walker wrote: I am trying to read data from a serial port (using a USB-serial adaptor). Glad to see this here Larry. Just to fill everyone in, Larry and I have been going around with this issue for about a week in the tech queue without success (and I really appreciate his patience, he's been incredibly reasonable about it.) I asked Mark Waddingham about the problem and he said that basically the serial commands haven't been changed since their initial implementation back in MetaCard, and that any device that represents itself as a serial device should work with open file (but not necessarily with the device name returned by the drivernames. Use modem: or printer: instead.) He also said that they have never been reworked to support OS X; they were originally written for OS 9 and have always continued to work in OS X, so the code hasn't been examined. Eric's comment that it works in 4.0 and not in 4.5 is something I don't think the team knows about. Since serial access hasn't changed in the engine, there must be some other change that peripherally affects serial port access. If that's so, then a bug report in the QCC would be in order. I hope either Sarah or Phil will see this, since they are the serial/USB experts here. Maybe they have some comments to add or a workaround they've discovered. - Original Message - From: Dar Scott d...@swcp.com To: How to use LiveCode use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Sent: Sunday, 13 May, 2012 8:17:45 PM Subject: Re: Serial Comms in 4.6.4 I'm not sure what you mean. Are you saying you upgraded to Windows 7 and LiveCode 4.6.4 at the same time? I have heard that some people have had trouble with Windows 7 and serial ports. Perhaps modems are especially an issue. Do you see the port in the device manager? Can you connect with HyperTerminal? What error results do you get? (You might have to create a version of your script that logs those.) Have the scripts ever worked on this Windows 7 installation? As you can probably tell, I'm leaning towards eliminating non-LiveCode issues and then looking at the script, but the script errors can give clues to both. Dar On May 13, 2012, at 4:23 AM, Camm wrote: Dar , Windows 7 All hardware has been checked okay. When using read from driver in scripts loaded into 4.6.4 or standalone from 4.6.4 nothing is read ? The identical script loaded in pre-windows 7 Livecode releases work. Thanks Camm -Original Message- From: use-livecode-boun...@lists.runrev.com [mailto:use-livecode-boun...@lists.runrev.com] On Behalf Of Dar Scott Sent: 13 May 2012 05:43 To: How to use LiveCode Subject: Re: Serial Comms in 4.6.4 Hi, Camm! I don't remember any changes. Maybe this can be tracked down. What OS? How does it fail? However, you might want to rule out other things. I find the most common reason that a serial communications program suddenly fails is a cable issue. Usually the handshake lines don't make it trough or something else is wrong in the wiring. Sometimes the USB-to-serial adaptor is an issue. Dar On May 12, 2012, at 3:30 PM, Camm wrote: Has something changed in the use of open , close , read , write driver and/or SerialControlString string in version 4.6.4. I have a stack for serial comms that works fine if run in older versions of Livecode , but fails to read in version 4.6.4 Same script ?? Regards Camm --- Dar Scott dba Dar Scott Consulting 8637 Horacio Place NE Albuquerque, NM 87111 Lab, home, office phone: +1 505 299 9497 For Skype and fax, please contact. d...@swcp.com Computer Programming and tinkering, often making LiveCode libraries and externals, sometimes writing associated microcontroller firmware. --- ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG
RED/BLUE TEXT COLOUR
I saw somewhere that the Red/Blue text bug had been fixed in 4.6.4 It seems to still exist in 4.6.4 i.e sometimes Text set to foregroundcolor RED goes BLUE ? set the foregroundcolor of fld Date to Red The fld Date property shows foregroundcolor as red , but the actual text is blue ?? Regards Camm ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
RE: RED/BLUE TEXT COLOUR
Only happens if fld is set to Opaque !! -Original Message- From: use-livecode-boun...@lists.runrev.com [mailto:use-livecode-boun...@lists.runrev.com] On Behalf Of Camm Sent: 15 May 2012 20:08 To: use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Subject: RED/BLUE TEXT COLOUR I saw somewhere that the Red/Blue text bug had been fixed in 4.6.4 It seems to still exist in 4.6.4 i.e sometimes Text set to foregroundcolor RED goes BLUE ? set the foregroundcolor of fld Date to Red The fld Date property shows foregroundcolor as red , but the actual text is blue ?? Regards Camm ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2012.0.1913 / Virus Database: 2425/5000 - Release Date: 05/15/12 - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2012.0.1913 / Virus Database: 2425/5000 - Release Date: 05/15/12 - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2012.0.1913 / Virus Database: 2425/5000 - Release Date: 05/15/12 - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2012.0.1913 / Virus Database: 2425/5000 - Release Date: 05/15/12 ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Serial Comms in 4.6.4
Dar, It is the same as this I found below , If complied on 4.0.0 it works , If complied on later versions if fails to read. Regards Camm On Nov 7, 2010, at 10:07 AM, J. Landman Gay wrote: On 11/7/10 9:18 AM, Larry Walker wrote: I am trying to read data from a serial port (using a USB-serial adaptor). Glad to see this here Larry. Just to fill everyone in, Larry and I have been going around with this issue for about a week in the tech queue without success (and I really appreciate his patience, he's been incredibly reasonable about it.) I asked Mark Waddingham about the problem and he said that basically the serial commands haven't been changed since their initial implementation back in MetaCard, and that any device that represents itself as a serial device should work with open file (but not necessarily with the device name returned by the drivernames. Use modem: or printer: instead.) He also said that they have never been reworked to support OS X; they were originally written for OS 9 and have always continued to work in OS X, so the code hasn't been examined. Eric's comment that it works in 4.0 and not in 4.5 is something I don't think the team knows about. Since serial access hasn't changed in the engine, there must be some other change that peripherally affects serial port access. If that's so, then a bug report in the QCC would be in order. I hope either Sarah or Phil will see this, since they are the serial/USB experts here. Maybe they have some comments to add or a workaround they've discovered. - Original Message - From: Dar Scott d...@swcp.com To: How to use LiveCode use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Sent: Sunday, 13 May, 2012 8:17:45 PM Subject: Re: Serial Comms in 4.6.4 I'm not sure what you mean. Are you saying you upgraded to Windows 7 and LiveCode 4.6.4 at the same time? I have heard that some people have had trouble with Windows 7 and serial ports. Perhaps modems are especially an issue. Do you see the port in the device manager? Can you connect with HyperTerminal? What error results do you get? (You might have to create a version of your script that logs those.) Have the scripts ever worked on this Windows 7 installation? As you can probably tell, I'm leaning towards eliminating non-LiveCode issues and then looking at the script, but the script errors can give clues to both. Dar On May 13, 2012, at 4:23 AM, Camm wrote: Dar , Windows 7 All hardware has been checked okay. When using read from driver in scripts loaded into 4.6.4 or standalone from 4.6.4 nothing is read ? The identical script loaded in pre-windows 7 Livecode releases work. Thanks Camm -Original Message- From: use-livecode-boun...@lists.runrev.com [mailto:use-livecode-boun...@lists.runrev.com] On Behalf Of Dar Scott Sent: 13 May 2012 05:43 To: How to use LiveCode Subject: Re: Serial Comms in 4.6.4 Hi, Camm! I don't remember any changes. Maybe this can be tracked down. What OS? How does it fail? However, you might want to rule out other things. I find the most common reason that a serial communications program suddenly fails is a cable issue. Usually the handshake lines don't make it trough or something else is wrong in the wiring. Sometimes the USB-to-serial adaptor is an issue. Dar On May 12, 2012, at 3:30 PM, Camm wrote: Has something changed in the use of open , close , read , write driver and/or SerialControlString string in version 4.6.4. I have a stack for serial comms that works fine if run in older versions of Livecode , but fails to read in version 4.6.4 Same script ?? Regards Camm --- Dar Scott dba Dar Scott Consulting 8637 Horacio Place NE Albuquerque, NM 87111 Lab, home, office phone: +1 505 299 9497 For Skype and fax, please contact. d...@swcp.com Computer Programming and tinkering, often making LiveCode libraries and externals, sometimes writing associated microcontroller firmware. --- ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2012.0.1913 / Virus Database: 2425/4996 - Release Date: 05/13/12 - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2012.0.1913 / Virus Database: 2425/4996 - Release Date: 05/13/12 - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2012.0.1913 / Virus Database: 2425/4996 - Release Date: 05/13/12 - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2012.0.1913 / Virus Database: 2425/4996 - Release Date: 05/13/12 ___ use-livecode
RE: Serial Comms in 4.6.4
Dar , Windows 7 All hardware has been checked okay. When using read from driver in scripts loaded into 4.6.4 or standalone from 4.6.4 nothing is read ? The identical script loaded in pre-windows 7 Livecode releases work. Thanks Camm -Original Message- From: use-livecode-boun...@lists.runrev.com [mailto:use-livecode-boun...@lists.runrev.com] On Behalf Of Dar Scott Sent: 13 May 2012 05:43 To: How to use LiveCode Subject: Re: Serial Comms in 4.6.4 Hi, Camm! I don't remember any changes. Maybe this can be tracked down. What OS? How does it fail? However, you might want to rule out other things. I find the most common reason that a serial communications program suddenly fails is a cable issue. Usually the handshake lines don't make it trough or something else is wrong in the wiring. Sometimes the USB-to-serial adaptor is an issue. Dar On May 12, 2012, at 3:30 PM, Camm wrote: Has something changed in the use of open , close , read , write driver and/or SerialControlString string in version 4.6.4. I have a stack for serial comms that works fine if run in older versions of Livecode , but fails to read in version 4.6.4 Same script ?? Regards Camm --- Dar Scott dba Dar Scott Consulting 8637 Horacio Place NE Albuquerque, NM 87111 Lab, home, office phone: +1 505 299 9497 For Skype and fax, please contact. d...@swcp.com Computer Programming and tinkering, often making LiveCode libraries and externals, sometimes writing associated microcontroller firmware. --- ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2012.0.1913 / Virus Database: 2425/4996 - Release Date: 05/13/12 - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2012.0.1913 / Virus Database: 2425/4996 - Release Date: 05/13/12 - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2012.0.1913 / Virus Database: 2425/4996 - Release Date: 05/13/12 - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2012.0.1913 / Virus Database: 2425/4996 - Release Date: 05/13/12 ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Serial Comms in 4.6.4
Has something changed in the use of open , close , read , write driver and/or SerialControlString string in version 4.6.4. I have a stack for serial comms that works fine if run in older versions of Livecode , but fails to read in version 4.6.4 Same script ?? Regards Camm ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Getting Text from another open application window
Bob , Thanks No logging which would have worked. Regards Camm - Original Message - From: Bob Sneidar b...@twft.com To: How to use LiveCode use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Sent: Monday, 23 January, 2012 10:40:58 PM Subject: Re: Getting Text from another open application window I don't believe any program can unless there is a way to do it built into the source app. QuicKeys for instance will intercept menus, buttons etc. because something is actually happening in the OS when the user interacts with those objects. Assuming that the developer followed the guidelines of the OS when creating and interacting with those objects, QuicKeys can intercept what the system is doing. But if the developer did something custom, say with the menus, and they are not built by the OS API the QuicKeys is as blind as any other app. The old Procedural Foxpro is a good example of that. But what interaction with the OS is there when a window is displaying data? If you find the answer to that, then you would be well on your way to finding a means to do this. Did you check to see if there is any logging going on? It may be possible to get data from the log if so. See if the app has any kind of verbose logging option. Bob On Jan 23, 2012, at 12:06 PM, Camm wrote: It a Windows based app. The machine is standalone and has no external data connections. It could be possible via the SDK , but that would mean writing externals. Are we saying that livecode cannot get text from other displayed window ? Best Regards Camm -Original Message- From: use-livecode-boun...@lists.runrev.com [mailto:use-livecode-boun...@lists.runrev.com] On Behalf Of stephen barncard Sent: 23 January 2012 18:12 To: How to use LiveCode Subject: Re: Getting Text from another open application window Most professional test instruments have some kind of interface - does the test device have any serial or IEEE interface?Livecode really can't grok the data space of another application. The application must provide an API or some kind of hardware interface. If it's a Macintosh application, check and see if it has an Applescript dictionary. You can use the Applescript script editor to examine the app in question. If there is one, you will see the definitions and can do a Do as Applescript. For instance, I built a mute button in Livecode to control Skype and iTunes at the same time. On 23 January 2012 09:28, Camm cam...@tesco.net wrote: Hi , I have a windows (non-livecode) application that displays text data from a test instrument , is it possible for livecode to import the displayed data realtime for decoding etc. Regards Camm ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode -- Stephen Barncard San Francisco Ca. USA more about sqb http://www.google.com/profiles/sbarncar ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2012.0.1901 / Virus Database: 2109/4761 - Release Date: 01/23/12 - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2012.0.1901 / Virus Database: 2109/4761 - Release Date: 01/23/12 - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2012.0.1901 / Virus Database: 2109/4761 - Release Date: 01/23/12 - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2012.0.1901 / Virus Database: 2109/4761 - Release Date: 01/23/12 ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Getting Text from another open application window
Thanks , yeah that looks like the only way Regards Camm - Original Message - From: stephen barncard stephenrevoluti...@barncard.com To: How to use LiveCode use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Sent: Monday, 23 January, 2012 10:41:21 PM Subject: Re: Getting Text from another open application window I don't think any application can do that without an API. On 23 January 2012 12:06, Camm cam...@tesco.net wrote: It a Windows based app. The machine is standalone and has no external data connections. It could be possible via the SDK , but that would mean writing externals. Are we saying that livecode cannot get text from other displayed window ? Best Regards Camm Stephen Barncard San Francisco Ca. USA more about sqb http://www.google.com/profiles/sbarncar ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
RE: Getting Text from another open application window
It a Windows based app. The machine is standalone and has no external data connections. It could be possible via the SDK , but that would mean writing externals. Are we saying that livecode cannot get text from other displayed window ? Best Regards Camm -Original Message- From: use-livecode-boun...@lists.runrev.com [mailto:use-livecode-boun...@lists.runrev.com] On Behalf Of stephen barncard Sent: 23 January 2012 18:12 To: How to use LiveCode Subject: Re: Getting Text from another open application window Most professional test instruments have some kind of interface - does the test device have any serial or IEEE interface?Livecode really can't grok the data space of another application. The application must provide an API or some kind of hardware interface. If it's a Macintosh application, check and see if it has an Applescript dictionary. You can use the Applescript script editor to examine the app in question. If there is one, you will see the definitions and can do a Do as Applescript. For instance, I built a mute button in Livecode to control Skype and iTunes at the same time. On 23 January 2012 09:28, Camm cam...@tesco.net wrote: Hi , I have a windows (non-livecode) application that displays text data from a test instrument , is it possible for livecode to import the displayed data realtime for decoding etc. Regards Camm ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode -- Stephen Barncard San Francisco Ca. USA more about sqb http://www.google.com/profiles/sbarncar ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2012.0.1901 / Virus Database: 2109/4761 - Release Date: 01/23/12 - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2012.0.1901 / Virus Database: 2109/4761 - Release Date: 01/23/12 - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2012.0.1901 / Virus Database: 2109/4761 - Release Date: 01/23/12 - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2012.0.1901 / Virus Database: 2109/4761 - Release Date: 01/23/12 ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
RE: [OT] Mediocre Britain
This topic has been quite interesting and narrow minded ... Education systems in my experience has nothing to with the ability to grasp computing or software development. I have been involved with a group of senior software developers for over 20 years in projects for manufacturing to high tech military. The best in the group have never been from any higher education route , no college , no university , no diploma or degree in sight. These Morons from Britain as some of you have suggested would out code the best of us for sure ! Don't put too much faith in any countries education system , people can still succeed to advanced levels without it. Camm -Original Message- From: use-livecode-boun...@lists.runrev.com [mailto:use-livecode-boun...@lists.runrev.com] On Behalf Of Richmond Mathewson Sent: 29 August 2011 07:28 To: How to use LiveCode Subject: Re: [OT] Mediocre Britain On 08/29/2011 06:08 AM, Timothy Miller wrote: On Aug 28, 2011, at 7:02 PM, Judy Perry wrote: Don't EVEN get me started on my students... Judy I'll get you started, Judy. Maybe the catharsis will do you good. Both my kids went to a community college, and both got pretty good educations. Both have been successful academically after completing community college. This is a summary of their many reports. Say my kid signs up for English 5. Because it satisfies a general education requirement, it draws a lot of students. You're not allowed to take it unless you've passed the English placement examination. Only about half the incoming first-years actually pass the English placement examination. English 5 starts out with 100 students enrolled. (These are representative numbers, not an exact case.) Of these 50 will never attempt to read the textbook, take notes, or turn in any homework. Many of these students are sponging off Mom, partying a lot. If they're male, they are probably smoking a lot of dope and playing Call of Duty all night. They've enrolled partly to avoid parental displeasure, to avoid getting a job, to remain eligible for parental health insurance, and possibly to qualify for student loans. Some have enrolled with the naive belief that they will get good jobs some day if they merely enroll. The real problem, here in Bulgaria, at least, is that the spongers are allowed up to 4 retakes spread over a year; and it is understood that, eventually, everybody will pass. W day comes about half way through the semester. If you withdraw from the course before W day, you get a W instead of an F without any hit to your grade point average, though you don't get credit for the course. The week before W day, about seventy students show up for the course. The rest have stopped attending, with our without Ws. The week after W day, about forty students show up for the course. Of the remaining forty students, fifteen will fail the course. Why they didn't take W's when they had the chance is an ongoing mystery. Some of these were doomed to fail, by virtue of poor educational success in grades K-12. The twenty-five who pass have made some effort to study. About eight of the original 100 will get A's. They have made at least a modest effort to study and do homework. The professor, in most cases, has bravely maintained some kind of academic standard. She has taught to the students who have some desire to learn. Many of the students who pass the course will get Cs and Ds, representing little if any mastery of the material. Surely if they have 'little if any mastery of the material' they should simply fail? This has been going on for years at my local community college, and likely many others like it around the country and maybe in the U.K., too. It is the unintended consequence of teaching first graders (and their parents) that the whole purpose of the first grade is to prepare every student for college. I don't know where you teach, Judy. Cal State Fullerton? I hope it's better there than at my local community college. Unfortunately, you do get some of the students who got Cs and Ds at community college. I have an M.A. from SIUC, and was very interested to see your tiered approach; Universities and Community Colleges. However, in Britain that system has been destroyed [and, previously, it many more layers than yours] in that everything from a community college, through polytechnics are now called Universities; giving people distorted expectations, and losing the strengths that were quite different from those of traditional universities of the polytechnics and technical colleges. Cheers, Tim ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 10.0.1392 / Virus Database: 1520/3863 - Release Date: 08/28/11
RE: Tahoma Font
Chipp , Perfect Many thanks ! Regards Camm -Original Message- From: use-livecode-boun...@lists.runrev.com [mailto:use-livecode-boun...@lists.runrev.com] On Behalf Of Chipp Walters Sent: 28 July 2011 02:00 To: How to use LiveCode Subject: Re: Tahoma Font Camm, Open up your stack in Rev as Topstack and before you make a standalone, type this in the message box: set the textfont of the topstack to Tahoma Then press enter and save your stack. Now make a standalone and see if it doesn't work. If Tahoma is installed on a Windows users machine, it will be used for all the effective textfont styles. Chipp Walters CEO, Shafer Walters Group, Inc On Jul 27, 2011, at 12:50 PM, Camm cam...@tesco.net wrote: Well , my issue is just with windows ? The Tahoma font is their during development mode but vanishes in Standalone on XP. If I set the properties of the standalone.exe in Windows to 95 or 98 compatibility it returns ? How do I force load a font on startup ? Best Regards Camm -Original Message- From: use-livecode-boun...@lists.runrev.com [mailto:use-livecode-boun...@lists.runrev.com] On Behalf Of Tiemo Hollmann TB Sent: 27 July 2011 10:05 To: 'How to use LiveCode' Subject: AW: Tahoma Font When I started with revolution Tahoma was the default font of all objects and I didn't cared about it at that time. I am now using Tahoma since years without any problems on windows and Mac, though I have learned that Tahoma isn't a standard font on Mac and is supposed to be substituted (what never made any problems in my apps). On windows systems Tahoma is a standard font up to today as far as I know, or did I miss anything? Tiemo -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: use-livecode-boun...@lists.runrev.com [mailto:use-livecode- boun...@lists.runrev.com] Im Auftrag von Camm Gesendet: Dienstag, 26. Juli 2011 22:30 An: use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Betreff: Tahoma Font Tahoma font will not work in standalone unless its run in Windows 95 or 98 compatibility mode? I am using Windows XP.. Any ideas ? Best Regards Camm ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 10.0.1390 / Virus Database: 1518/3789 - Release Date: 07/26/11 ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 10.0.1390 / Virus Database: 1518/3791 - Release Date: 07/27/11 ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
RE: Tahoma Font
Well , my issue is just with windows ? The Tahoma font is their during development mode but vanishes in Standalone on XP. If I set the properties of the standalone.exe in Windows to 95 or 98 compatibility it returns ? How do I force load a font on startup ? Best Regards Camm -Original Message- From: use-livecode-boun...@lists.runrev.com [mailto:use-livecode-boun...@lists.runrev.com] On Behalf Of Tiemo Hollmann TB Sent: 27 July 2011 10:05 To: 'How to use LiveCode' Subject: AW: Tahoma Font When I started with revolution Tahoma was the default font of all objects and I didn't cared about it at that time. I am now using Tahoma since years without any problems on windows and Mac, though I have learned that Tahoma isn't a standard font on Mac and is supposed to be substituted (what never made any problems in my apps). On windows systems Tahoma is a standard font up to today as far as I know, or did I miss anything? Tiemo -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: use-livecode-boun...@lists.runrev.com [mailto:use-livecode- boun...@lists.runrev.com] Im Auftrag von Camm Gesendet: Dienstag, 26. Juli 2011 22:30 An: use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Betreff: Tahoma Font Tahoma font will not work in standalone unless its run in Windows 95 or 98 compatibility mode? I am using Windows XP.. Any ideas ? Best Regards Camm ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 10.0.1390 / Virus Database: 1518/3789 - Release Date: 07/26/11 ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
RE: Keydowns during Socket Read/Writes
Can anybody who is good with Client / Server Sockets get a client to send some data to the server when a key is pressed on the clients keyboard ?? If it is possible please could you share or see if it is a bug . Best Regards Camm From: use-livecode-boun...@lists.runrev.com [mailto:use-livecode-boun...@lists.runrev.com] On Behalf Of Alex Tweedly Sent: 08 February 2011 23:56 To: use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Subject: Re: Keydowns during Socket Read/Writes Also, your script has 'the' instead of 'then' (I know, just a typo), and it has else ... end if with no corresponding if to begin. Could I suggest that you include the complete working script, as copied/pasted from the script editor, then include the complete on-working script. (or include both working scripts ...) That way we are seeing all the script lines with minimal chance of misunderstanding. Thanks -- Alex. On 08/02/2011 23:41, Mark Schonewille wrote: Hi Camm, What does does not work mean? You need to explain this, before we can help you. Additionally, if controlKey is down cannot work, but if controlKey() is down if the controlKey is down can work (provided that you're pressing the control key). -- Best regards, Mark Schonewille Economy-x-Talk Consulting and Software Engineering Homepage: http://economy-x-talk.com Twitter: http://twitter.com/xtalkprogrammer KvK: 50277553 New: Download the Installer Maker Plugin 1.5 for LiveCode here http://qery.us/ce On 8 feb 2011, at 22:42, Camm wrote: Can anybody see the problem with using Keys whilst using socket commands. I have tried KeyUp , KeyDown , RawKeys etc they work okay except when trying to write to socket Open socket to 127.0.0.1:8090 with message ClientConnected on ClientConnected pSocket write Hello crlf to socket pSocket read from socket pSocket until crlf with message ReceivedMessage end ClientConnected on ReceivedMessage pSocket tdata read from socket pSocket until crlf with message ReceivedMessage put number of items in tdata into NumItems repeat with y=1 to NumItems put char 3 to 4 of item y of tdata into a delete char 1 to 5 of item y of tdata put item y of ToUpper(tdata) into line a of fld XYZ end repeat else end if THIS WORKS write Arn.Resp:5015=1: crlf to socket pSocket THIS WORKS if controlKey is down the put Arn.Resp:5015=1: into fld XYZ THIS DOES NOT if controlKey() is down then write Arn.Resp:5015=1: crlf to socket pSocket end ReceivedMessage Best Regards Camm ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode _ No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 10.0.1204 / Virus Database: 1435/3430 - Release Date: 02/08/11 ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
RE: Keydowns during Socket Read/Writes
Could this be a bug ??? From: use-livecode-boun...@lists.runrev.com [mailto:use-livecode-boun...@lists.runrev.com] On Behalf Of cam...@tesco.net Sent: 09 February 2011 09:02 To: How to use LiveCode Subject: Re: Keydowns during Socket Read/Writes Mark , Sorry , a few typo's... Within the ReceivedMessage:- I can get the Keydown to work without writing to the socket. I can write to the socket without the Keydown. If i try to write to the socket as a reponse to a Keydown , the write does not happen. As shown in the script below Best Regards Camm Mark Schonewille m.schonewi...@economy-x-talk.com wrote: Hi Camm, What does does not work mean? You need to explain this, before we can help you. Additionally, if controlKey is down cannot work, but if controlKey() is down if the controlKey is down can work (provided that you're pressing the control key). -- Best regards, Mark Schonewille Economy-x-Talk Consulting and Software Engineering Homepage: http://economy-x-talk.com Twitter: http://twitter.com/xtalkprogrammer KvK: 50277553 New: Download the Installer Maker Plugin 1.5 for LiveCode here http://qery.us/ce On 8 feb 2011, at 22:42, Camm wrote: Can anybody see the problem with using Keys whilst using socket commands. I have tried KeyUp , KeyDown , RawKeys etc they work okay except when trying to write to socket Open socket to 127.0.0.1:8090 with message ClientConnected on ClientConnected pSocket write Hello crlf to socket pSocket read from socket pSocket until crlf with message ReceivedMessage end ClientConnected on ReceivedMessage pSocket tdata read from socket pSocket until crlf with message ReceivedMessage put number of items in tdata into NumItems repeat with y=1 to NumItems put char 3 to 4 of item y of tdata into a delete char 1 to 5 of item y of tdata put item y of ToUpper(tdata) into line a of fld XYZ end repeat else end if THIS WORKS write Arn.Resp:5015=1: crlf to socket pSocket THIS WORKS if controlKey() is down then put Arn.Resp:5015=1: into fld XYZ THIS DOES NOT if controlKey() is down then write Arn.Resp:5015=1: crlf to socket pSocket end ReceivedMessage Best Regards Camm ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode _ No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 10.0.1204 / Virus Database: 1435/3430 - Release Date: 02/08/11 ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Keydowns during Socket Read/Writes
Can anybody see the problem with using Keys whilst using socket commands. I have tried KeyUp , KeyDown , RawKeys etc they work okay except when trying to write to socket Open socket to 127.0.0.1:8090 with message ClientConnected on ClientConnected pSocket write Hello crlf to socket pSocket read from socket pSocket until crlf with message ReceivedMessage end ClientConnected on ReceivedMessage pSocket tdata read from socket pSocket until crlf with message ReceivedMessage put number of items in tdata into NumItems repeat with y=1 to NumItems put char 3 to 4 of item y of tdata into a delete char 1 to 5 of item y of tdata put item y of ToUpper(tdata) into line a of fld XYZ end repeat else end if THIS WORKS write Arn.Resp:5015=1: crlf to socket pSocket THIS WORKS if controlKey is down the put Arn.Resp:5015=1: into fld XYZ THIS DOES NOT if controlKey() is down then write Arn.Resp:5015=1: crlf to socket pSocket end ReceivedMessage Best Regards Camm ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
