Re: Livecode Future
Hi Heriberto, I find myself in a very similar situation with 180+ employees the new licensing modal is not suitable for the MSE space, at least, not for our specific needs. Such a shame that after 10 years of working with LC and being along for the ride as the product *nearly* matures I too will have to leave the LC community and seek alternatives… Col. From: use-livecode on behalf of Heriberto Torrado via use-livecode Date: Friday, 26 July 2024 at 16:37 To: Bob Sneidar via use-livecode Cc: Heriberto Torrado Subject: Re: Livecode Future Hi Bob, Thank you very much for clarifying my question. Based on your response, it's clear that LiveCode is not suitable for our needs. In my current role at the new company, I've developed several small applications using LiveCode for internal use: a client onboarding form, a workflow management app for our printers, and a folder encryption tool. These are small utilities, and it wouldn't be feasible for each user to pay $150 per app, resulting in $450 per employee. I previously purchased the Indy license and intended to buy a similar one now. However, it seems I will need to find another solution. As you mentioned, the Mobile development license is not relevant for us since I only develop desktop applications. Additionally, our strict security measures mean our firewalls won't allow LiveCode applications to communicate externally. After 15 years of working with LiveCode, I've learned that relying on programming languages without a big community and free licensing can lead to significant risks and potential loss of knowledge. Best regards, Heriberto On 7/26/24 11:07, Bob Sneidar via use-livecode wrote: > Yes each user who uses your app will require a seat license. > > Bob S > > > On Jul 25, 2024, at 5:28 PM, Heriberto Torrado via use-livecode > wrote: > > Hello, > > I apologize for asking my questions again, but after carefully reading the > previous email, I am still a bit confused. > > My situation is as follows: I work as the IT Director at a company in New > York. Among many other responsibilities, I have developed several apps for > internal use by our employees. My question is straightforward: With the new > licensing model, does each employee need to pay for a license? I am currently > using the "Community" version, but it does not work on Apple Silicon devices. > Therefore, I am considering purchasing a new license. > > Thank you for your assistance. > > ___ > use-livecode mailing list > use-livecode@lists.runrev.com > Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription > preferences: > http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: I seem to have missed something
Like many here, I use LC to build utility apps to simplify some of the workflows in my workplace, most are raw and dirty but do the job I develop them for. I could create all of these using Python or the like but choose LC due to its simplicity and self-documenting nature as I don’t have to revisit the code often. One of LC strengths is the ease of looking at old code and been able to understand what’s going on. To-date we have many of these apps/applets running in my workplace with a growing workforce of around 180+/- employees. I find the new licensing modal just a tad hard to swallow, my £799 annual licensing fee is going to jump to circa £90k annually on the new licensing system, unless I’ve completely misunderstood the new licensing modal! I’m sure LC would offer to heavily discount this for me but I’m sure it’s not going to be anywhere near my usual £799/year! I’ve invested my own money into LC, supporting every kick-starter campaign, lifetime licensing campaign and paying for bolt-ons to help support the LC product through its various DP/RC stages, and to-date, not seen any really useful return on my investments! so feeling a little disappointed and let down with this latest change of direction! Needless to say, I won’t be presenting the new figures to my employers in my annual budget meeting as I would be laughed out of the room…. In the words of the Dragons Den; ……I’m out! Col. From: use-livecode on behalf of Bob Sneidar via use-livecode Date: Friday, 26 July 2024 at 00:47 To: How to use LiveCode Cc: Bob Sneidar Subject: Re: I seem to have missed something But the primary app I developed IS commercial by their definition. Bob S On Jul 25, 2024, at 4:29 PM, matthias rebbe via use-livecode wrote: First of all, it's 3 years not 2. ;) I am in the same boat regarding the utility apps to make life and jobs of family members and colleagues easier. Over the years I've created plenty of them and I am sure some of them need to be maintained in the future. Sometimes I even cannot remember an app when people tell me that they still use it. ;) The new licenses allow to create free apps as long as they are not used commercially. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Most streamlined method to get data
Put the last trueword of yourVariable That should do what you need ☺ Col. From: use-livecode on behalf of Craig Newman via use-livecode Date: Thursday, 29 July 2021 at 13:56 To: How to use LiveCode Cc: Craig Newman Subject: Re: Most streamlined method to get data Ugh. I really do not like the format of the use-list. Anyway, don’t just replace comma with empty. Do it to the trailing commas only. This can be done in several ways. Craig > On Jul 29, 2021, at 8:42 AM, Skip Kimpel via use-livecode > wrote: > > I have a variable that contains: > > ,Name,,,Quantity,Total,,,Percent > > ,Dine In,,,189,"$4,812.71",,,57.96% > > ,Take Out,,,72,"$1,676.43",,,20.19% > > ,3rd Party,,,54,"$1,779.35",,,21.43% > > ,Bakery,,,3,$34.83,,,0.42% > > ,Total,,,318,"$8,303.32",,, > > > What is the best way to get 8303.32 from that last line. Obviously, the > complexity is the commas and getting rid of the dollar sign as well. > > > I know I am going to kick myself when somebody answers I am blank this > morning. (NEED MORE COFFEE!) > > > SKIP > ___ > use-livecode mailing list > use-livecode@lists.runrev.com > Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription > preferences: > http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Collaborative help request for oAuth2 access to DocuSign
Same here, I couldn’t get oAuth working for Intelligent Office in LC but using the same credentials it worked ok through Postman… -- Colin Kelly M 07951 920680 From: use-livecode on behalf of Andrew at MidWest Coast Media via use-livecode Reply to: How to use LiveCode Date: Friday, 11 June 2021 at 17:13 To: "use-livecode@lists.runrev.com" Cc: Andrew at MidWest Coast Media Subject: Re: Collaborative help request for oAuth2 access to DocuSign I was never able to get oAuth working for Canvas LMS even though the same workflow worked on Postman. —Andrew Bell Subject: Re: Collaborative help request for oAuth2 access to DocuSign I?ve still not been able to make any headway with getting oAuth to work for DocuSign. Anyone have any ideas? Sean ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com<mailto:use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Livecode HTML5 and SQL
Anyone got any insightful ways of READING/WRITING to a mySQL table using web-apps developed with Livecode HTML5? Thanks Col. -- Colin Kelly M 07951 920680 ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Apple Mac menubar?
Thanks Sean, that's exactly the info I was looking for. On 21/01/2020, 16:39, "use-livecode on behalf of Pi Digital via use-livecode" wrote: Do you possibly mean the System Menu Extensions found on the right of the menu bar? If so then that is not currently possible from LiveCode. Sean Cole Pi Digital Prod Ltd > On 21 Jan 2020, at 16:27, Richard Gaskin via use-livecode wrote: > > dunbarx wrote: > > > The menubar is fully configurable when LC is in front, but I do not > > believe it can be so modified when not. > > Are you just asking if LC is the right tool for such a thing? There > > must be other gadgets that perform this task. > > LC added an experimental feature for this several versions back, but searching the Dictionary for "menu" yielding nothing useful. > > Anyone here remember the relevant keywords? > > -- > Richard Gaskin > Fourth World Systems > Software Design and Development for the Desktop, Mobile, and the Web > > ambassa...@fourthworld.comhttp://www.FourthWorld.com > > > ___ > use-livecode mailing list > use-livecode@lists.runrev.com > Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: > http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Apple Mac menubar?
Does anyone know if it’s possible with livecode to add an icon and click options to a Mac menubar (the mac menubar at the top of the screen when no applications have focus)? -- Colin Kelly ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Microsoft 365 Rest API
Thanks for this Sean, I’m very keen to understand/learn how you’ve put this
together, there does seem to be a wide need for this by the noise generated in
this list.
Would be great to see this put on one of the upcoming LiveCode Global Days!
--
Colin Kelly
M 07951 920680
On 12/10/2017, 13:55, "use-livecode on behalf of Pi Digital via use-livecode"
wrote:
I’ve been currently working on a project with another Livecoder making a
library to work with MS Dynamics365. It turns out that the best way for LC to
work with it is via their webAPI (as are most things) until v9 is ready. But
this still means a lot of stuff being put together outside of LC. You first
need an Azure account setup to enable authentication. You then need someone
conversant with c#, Visual Basic and .net to write the APIs based on the MS
SDK. This then needs putting onto a .net server. From there it is really
straight forward to set up a http header in LC and all of the Post and http
calls to send and receive data.
To be honest, the LC side of things is really simple, and our API guy has
been really good at setting the whole thing up for us. We found him via
PeoplePerHour and is clearly one of the best in his field.
It’s been a long process working out how to get it all to work together so
I’m happy I can now make it easier for members like you, saving you the effort
of fumbling around (like we did) to find a solution.
PM me if and when you need more guidance and we can set up a Skype,
FaceTime or whatever.
All the best
Sean Cole
Pi Digital
s...@pidigital.co.uk
> On 12 Oct 2017, at 12:52, Colin Kelly via use-livecode
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> Does anyone have any working livecode scripts/libraries to use with the
Microsoft 365 Rest API for accessing Calendar entries?
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Microsoft 365 Rest API
Does anyone have any working livecode scripts/libraries to use with the Microsoft 365 Rest API for accessing Calendar entries? Any help much appreciated. -- Colin Kelly ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: selecting browse tool does not "stop editing group" anymore in LC 8?
My Livecode v8.01 on Mac (El Capitan) is showing the same behaviour as Klaus when selecting run the group being edited stays in view, the remainder of the card is greyed. — Colin Kelly On 26/05/2016, 14:21, "use-livecode on behalf of Richard Gaskin" wrote: >Klaus major-k wrote: > > > in versions < 8, switching to browse tool automatically „stopped > > editing group“ when you were, well, in „edit group“ mode at that > > point. > > > > I just noticed that this does not happen in version >= 8 anymore, > > the window title still reads: > > „stack xyz (background „name group being edited“) > > > > Is this intended behaviour? > >I'm unable to reproduce that in the latest build (8.1dp1). > >Here choosing the Browse tools closes group editing. > >Is there another step in there I should be trying? > >-- > Richard Gaskin > Fourth World Systems > Software Design and Development for the Desktop, Mobile, and the Web > > ambassa...@fourthworld.comhttp://www.FourthWorld.com > > >___ >use-livecode mailing list >use-livecode@lists.runrev.com >Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription >preferences: >http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Infinite LiveCode - Message from CEO
Please don't misunderstand me, I really like LiveCode, I use it in my workplace to rapidly build proof of concept software modals to get sign-off on projects that are then built with more standardised and robust IDEs with more leisurely time frames. LiveCode is by large measures faster than any other language at building X-platform apps from concept to prototype. It just bites me that I keep having to reinvest in something that IMO is not a polished product, even the 'stable' releases of v7 are at best betas and v8 should really still be considered alphas and not fit for sale, again IMHO. :) Sent from my iPhone > On 13 May 2016, at 00:25, Trevor DeVore wrote: > >> On Thursday, May 12, 2016, Colin Kelly wrote: >> >> And as for LC8. It's just too buggy to use in any production apps. > > > Crap! You should have told me that before I started letting customers use > my company's new app written in LC 8. Now I need to go un-release it ;-) > > -- > Trevor DeVore > ScreenSteps > ___ > use-livecode mailing list > use-livecode@lists.runrev.com > Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription > preferences: > http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Infinite LiveCode - Message from CEO
+1 The same goes for SMTP. And as for LC8. It's just too buggy to use in any production apps. If LC7 is truly EoL I will probably have to start reinvesting back into Delphi or brushing back up on C#. I simply don't have time to keep nursing LC and finding workarounds. Thanks LC for the memories, it's been emotional! Sent from my iPhone > On 12 May 2016, at 21:55, Sannyasin Brahmanathaswami wrote: > > I have bought, paid, contributed to every single forward offer that RunRev > and LiveCode have offered through the years, I had a great deal of faith in > our LC team at HQ. > > But when I saw recently that something we've been begging for, for 15 years… > simple SFTP functionality from the engine.. .(available for free in dozens of > open source apps) is only going to be offered to Business, my enthusiasm for > any further participation in any such things as "infinite livecode" was > pretty much extinguished. > > It's not that I don't understand a Business level pricing…the entire > enterprise collaboration and support makes a great deal of sense for a higher > pricing tier. > > But when you say "For all you cooks out there.. you can only use a serving > spoon (SFTP) if you choose Business, otherwise you have to carve your own > serving spoon (run around installing keys on machines and scripting scp and > rsync code into apps.) " I have to just blink twice and scratch my head > > "What is going o? How many more basic utilities that we think we have > supported development for, are going to be out of our price range in the > future?" > > BR > >> On 5/12/16, 7:50 AM, "use-livecode on behalf of Heather Laine" >> >> wrote: >> >> Please go and read this blog post from Kevin, it contains important >> information I'm sure will interest you! >> >> https://livecode.com/infinite-livecode-a-letter-from-our-ceo/ > > ___ > use-livecode mailing list > use-livecode@lists.runrev.com > Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription > preferences: > http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Exchange 365 RESTful API
Has anyone successfully sent any email messages using Microsoft’s RESTful API for their exchange 365 service? — Colin Kelly > ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: [ANN] mergExt releases for iOS 9.2
+1 On 10/02/2016, 14:07, "use-livecode on behalf of Mike Kerner" wrote: >Request: >For folks who buy the whole kit-and-kaboodle, a monolithic download with >the current versions of everything would be nice. > >On Wed, Feb 10, 2016 at 12:41 AM, Monte Goulding wrote: ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
