Re: [ANN] This Week in LiveCode 116

[Klaus major-k via use-livecode]

Hi Panos,

> Am 12.02.2018 um 13:10 schrieb panagiotis merakos via use-livecode 
> :
> 
> Hi all,
> 
> Read about new developments in LiveCode open source and the open source
> community in today's edition of the "This Week in LiveCode" newsletter!
>Read issue #116 here: https://goo.gl/Lpdp11

clicking "Delete imported audioclips" leads to this one, which is about 
"Datagrid horizontal scrollbar":


> This is a weekly newsletter about LiveCode, focussing on what's been
> going on in and around the open source project. New issues will be
> released weekly on Mondays. We have a dedicated mailing list that will
> deliver each issue directly to you e-mail, so you don't miss any!
> 
> If you have anything you'd like mentioned (a project, a discussion
> somewhere, an upcoming event) then please get in touch.
> 
> -- 
> Panagiotis Merakos 
> LiveCode Software Developer

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Re: [ANN] Release 8.1.9

[Klaus major-k via use-livecode]

Hola muchacho,

> Am 09.02.2018 um 18:31 schrieb Bob Sneidar via use-livecode 
> :
> 
> I thot RunRev was dead?

that must have been real FAKENEWS, Bob! :-)

> Long live Livecode! 

Hip, hip...

> Bob S

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Re: [ANN] Release 8.1.9

[Klaus major-k via use-livecode]

Hi Mark,

> Am 09.02.2018 um 17:57 schrieb Mark Wieder via use-livecode 
> <use-livecode@lists.runrev.com>:
> 
> On 02/09/2018 07:23 AM, Klaus major-k via use-livecode wrote:
> 
>>> Could you post the link to this thread here?
>> Sure, you may need to become a forum member before you can read the posting.
>> <http://www.livecode-blog.de/forums/topic/fehlermeldung-beim-starten/>
>> But I already told you everything he said there...
> My usual remedy in cases like this is to delete the preferences file and 
> start things up again.

good idea, where will he find it on Windows?

> -- 
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> ahsoftw...@gmail.com

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Re: [ANN] Release 8.1.9

[Klaus major-k via use-livecode]

Hi Mark,

> Am 09.02.2018 um 17:52 schrieb Mark Wieder via use-livecode 
> <use-livecode@lists.runrev.com>:
> 
> On 02/09/2018 07:42 AM, Klaus major-k via use-livecode wrote:
>> drop a line if you need a german interpreter.
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gmOTpIVxji8

LOL! :-D

Yeah, a classic!

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Re: [ANN] Release 8.1.9

[Klaus major-k via use-livecode]

Hi Panos,

> Am 09.02.2018 um 16:20 schrieb panagiotis merakos via use-livecode 
> :
> 
> Hmm that's interesting, so 8.1.8 works for him, but 8.1.9 does not?

yep.

> Could you post the link to this thread here?

Sure, you may need to become a forum member before you can read the posting.


But I already told you everything he said there...

> Best,
> Panos

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Re: [ANN] Release 8.1.9

[Klaus major-k via use-livecode]

Hi Panos,

> Am 09.02.2018 um 16:12 schrieb panagiotis merakos via use-livecode 
> <use-livecode@lists.runrev.com>:
> 
> Hi Klaus,
> 
> Wild guess: Does the dictionary for this user come up as empty?

no idea, but I suspect that his version of LC does not load at all, you wild 
one! :-)
In the meantime he wrote he is using 8.1.8 again, since he also experienced 
this with LC 8.1.9 RC2

> If yes, unfortunately the user is affected by bug
> http://quality.livecode.com/show_bug.cgi?id=17374
> 
> which is probably a duplicate of bug
> http://quality.livecode.com/show_bug.cgi?id=20958
> 
> I say unfortunately because we have not been able to reproduce it, and
> looking at the scripts we cannot find out what could have gone wrong.
> 
> Best,
> Panos
> --
> 
> PS: However this bug is not 8.1.9-specific
> 
> On Fri, Feb 9, 2018 at 2:10 PM, Klaus major-k via use-livecode <
> use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:
> 
>> Hi all,
>> 
>>> Am 09.02.2018 um 14:55 schrieb Mike Kerner via use-livecode <
>> use-livecode@lists.runrev.com>:
>>> 
>>> I like it when 24 hours go by and there are no replies.
>> 
>> :-)
>> 
>> There is a report in the german Livecode forum, maybe someone can give a
>> hint.
>> 
>> User has been updating via the LC updater and now gets this every time he
>> starts LC.
>> He already has downloaded that version and un-/installed LC again a couple
>> of times,
>> no luck:
>> 
>> 
>> Error while loading stack: C:\Program...\libraries\
>> revidelibrary.8.livecodescript
>> 

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Re: [ANN] Release 8.1.9

[Klaus major-k via use-livecode]

Hi all,

> Am 09.02.2018 um 14:55 schrieb Mike Kerner via use-livecode 
> :
> 
> I like it when 24 hours go by and there are no replies.

:-)

There is a report in the german Livecode forum, maybe someone can give a hint.

User has been updating via the LC updater and now gets this every time he 
starts LC.
He already has downloaded that version and un-/installed LC again a couple of 
times,
no luck:


Error while loading stack: 
C:\Program...\libraries\revidelibrary.8.livecodescript



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Re: Delete imported audioclips?

[Klaus major-k via use-livecode]

Hi Sean,

> Am 07.02.2018 um 12:02 schrieb Pi Digital via use-livecode 
> <use-livecode@lists.runrev.com>:
> 
> Maybe we could make ac’s and Vc’s visible in the PB like they are in the 
> Application Browser. We can look into it. 

yes, we can see them, but it seems we cannot delete them from within the 
"Project Browser".
But I already deleted them via script.

> Sean Cole
> Pi Digital
> 
>> On 6 Feb 2018, at 23:10, Klaus major-k via use-livecode 
>> <use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Tore,
>> 
>>> Am 07.02.2018 um 00:03 schrieb Tore Nilsen via use-livecode 
>>> <use-livecode@lists.runrev.com>:
>>> 
>>> Right click or control click the file i project browser and use clear from 
>>> the menu.
>>> You may have to reload the PB to see that the clip is deleted.
>> 
>> Sorry, no "Clear" menu-item in the popup menu with Audioclips!
>> 
>> But Hermann already ansered me privately, looks like we need to:
>> ...
>> delete ac X
>> ## where X is the number of the audioclip to delete
>> ...
>> 
>>> Best regards
>>> Tore Nilsen

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Re: Delete imported audioclips?

[Klaus major-k via use-livecode]

Hi Tore,

> Am 07.02.2018 um 00:03 schrieb Tore Nilsen via use-livecode 
> :
> 
> Right click or control click the file i project browser and use clear from 
> the menu.
> You may have to reload the PB to see that the clip is deleted.

Sorry, no "Clear" menu-item in the popup menu with Audioclips!

But Hermann already ansered me privately, looks like we need to:
...
delete ac X
## where X is the number of the audioclip to delete
...

> Best regards
> Tore Nilsen

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Delete imported audioclips?

[Klaus major-k via use-livecode]

Hi friends,

obviously I am missing something obvious, but how can I delete an imported 
audioclip?
Looks like the "Poject Brwoser" cannot do this.

Thanks for any pointer!


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Re: any tricks to make SHELL non blocking?

[Klaus major-k via use-livecode]

Hi Hermann,

> Am 03.02.2018 um 00:35 schrieb hh via use-livecode 
> :
> 
>> Klaus wrote:
>> ... it WORKS, thanks a lot!
> 
> How could you doubt that!?  :-(

sorry, really didn't mean it personally! ;-)

> I never post things that I didn't test thoroughly, learned that from 'bn'.
> In this case I looked into the script of my next Mac/Win/Linux/Raspi-stack 
> "timeLapseCamera" which runs since four days without problems.
> I have it running with up to 4 cheap USB-webcams at different repeat rates.
> There is no blocking with my tests even if they fire all at the same full
> second.

Way cool, dude! 
Voll krass, Alter! :-)


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Re: any tricks to make SHELL non blocking?

[Klaus major-k via use-livecode]

Hi Hermann,

> Am 03.02.2018 um 00:02 schrieb Klaus major-k via use-livecode 
> <use-livecode@lists.runrev.com>:
> 
> Hi Hermann,
> 
>> Am 02.02.2018 um 23:53 schrieb hh via use-livecode 
>> <use-livecode@lists.runrev.com>:
>> 
>> This is non-blocking:
>> 
>> put tCommandLineUtility && q(tGeneratedFile) into p0
>> open process p0 for neither -- no need to close that
>> 
>> Don't use quotes for the utility.
>> You have no feedback with that. That's the advantage of shell.
> 
> just tested on my Mac, no luck.
> And "the result" = EMPTY

sorry, I had a typo in my script, it WORKS, thanks a lot!


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Re: any tricks to make SHELL non blocking?

[Klaus major-k via use-livecode]

Hi Hermann,

> Am 02.02.2018 um 23:53 schrieb hh via use-livecode 
> :
> 
> This is non-blocking:
> 
> put tCommandLineUtility && q(tGeneratedFile) into p0
> open process p0 for neither -- no need to close that
> 
> Don't use quotes for the utility.
> You have no feedback with that. That's the advantage of shell.

just tested on my Mac, no luck.
And "the result" = EMPTY

>> Klaus M. wrote:
>> Hi friends,
>> I have a command line utility which will process a generated file like:
>> ...
>> get shell(q(tCommandLineUtility) && q(tGeneratedFile))
>> ...
>> FYI:
>> function q tString
>> return QUOTE & tString & QUOTE
>> end q
>> Any hints on how to make this NON blocking somehow?
>> I need a solution for Mac and Win.
>> Thanks for any hint.

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Re: any tricks to make SHELL non blocking?

[Klaus major-k via use-livecode]

Hello Hermann,

> Am 02.02.2018 um 23:53 schrieb hh via use-livecode 
> :
> 
> This is non-blocking:
> 
> put tCommandLineUtility && q(tGeneratedFile) into p0
> open process p0 for neither -- no need to close that
> 
> Don't use quotes for the utility.
> You have no feedback with that. That's the advantage of shell.

great, thank you, will try this tomorrow!

>> Klaus M. wrote:
>> Hi friends,
>> I have a command line utility which will process a generated file like:
>> ...
>> get shell(q(tCommandLineUtility) && q(tGeneratedFile))
>> ...
>> FYI:
>> function q tString
>> return QUOTE & tString & QUOTE
>> end q
>> Any hints on how to make this NON blocking somehow?
>> I need a solution for Mac and Win.
>> Thanks for any hint.

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Re: any tricks to make SHELL non blocking?

[Klaus major-k via use-livecode]

Hi Phil,

> Am 02.02.2018 um 23:30 schrieb Phil Davis via use-livecode 
> <use-livecode@lists.runrev.com>:
> 
> Run it in a different app that you communicate with via sockets? Or maybe run 
> that app as a process?
> You said *any* hints, so... be careful what you ask for! :-)

yep, get it! :-D

> Phil Davis
> 
> On 2/2/18 1:41 PM, Klaus major-k via use-livecode wrote:
>> Hi friends,
>> I have a command line utility which will process a generated file like:
>> ...
>> get shell(q(tCommandLineUtility) && q(tGeneratedFile))
>> ...
>> FYI:
>> function q tString
>>  return QUOTE & tString & QUOTE
>> end q
>> 
>> Any hints on how to make this NON blocking somehow?
>> I need a solution for Mac and Win.
>> 
>> Thanks for any hint.

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any tricks to make SHELL non blocking?

[Klaus major-k via use-livecode]

Hi friends,

I have a command line utility which will process a generated file like:
...
get shell(q(tCommandLineUtility) && q(tGeneratedFile))
...

FYI:
function q tString
 return QUOTE & tString & QUOTE
end q


Any hints on how to make this NON blocking somehow?
I need a solution for Mac and Win.

Thanks for any hint.


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Re: post to cgi, JSON in Headers?

[Klaus major-k via use-livecode]

Hi Dave,

> Am 01.02.2018 um 16:28 schrieb Dave Kilroy via use-livecode 
> :
> 
> Klaus I wonder if he wants you to let the server know what kind of data
> you'll be sending up, it's not uncommon to set the headers this way when
> posting data to an API:
> 
> put "Content-Type: application/json" into tHeaders
> set httpHeaders to tHeaders
> 
> Good luck!

thank you, it is a tad more complicatd, but I'm in conversation with the 
developer already!

> Dave 
> 
>> ...
>>> Hi friends,
>>> 
>>> I am scripting a routine to upload a PDF file to a server.
>>> So far, so good-> libURLMultipartFormData() is my friend.
>>> 
>>> but now the developer of the API send me two TOKENs for authentification
>>> and said: 
>>> "...and make sure you're posting the HTTP header data (the tokens) as
>>> application/json."
>>> ???
>>> Now he is not available for the next hours. :-(

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closestackrequest in iOS Simulator

[Klaus major-k via use-livecode]

Hi friends,

Xcode 9.2, LC 9 dp11 and LC 8.1.9 RC2

Out of a sudden, "closestackrequest" and "closestack" 
do not seem to get sent to the stack in the simulator anymore?

I created a new empty stack with only this stackscript:
---
on closestackrequest
answer "closestack REQUEST!"
pass closestackrequest
end closestackrequest

on closestack
answer "closestack"
end closestack
-
I see both dialogs when I close the stack in the IDE, but in the simulator
(iPhone 5s - 11.2) I do not see any dialog when pressing the "Home" button?

What gives? Thanks for any hint.


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post to cgi, JSON in Headers?

[Klaus major-k via use-livecode]

Hi friends,

I am scripting a routine to upload a PDF file to a server.
So far, so good-> libURLMultipartFormData() is my friend.

but now the developer of the API send me two TOKENs for authentification and 
said: 
"...and make sure you're posting the HTTP header data (the tokens) as 
application/json."
???
Now he is not available for the next hours. :-(

Anyone knows what he is talking about and how I can add this to my scripts?
Thanks a lot in advance!


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Re: Dropbox help 3 (OAuth app authorization flow?)

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Hi Mike,

> Am 30.01.2018 um 15:58 schrieb Mike Kerner via use-livecode 
> :
> 
> I forgot that Gerard has a repo up, now.  It's at
> https://github.com/gmcrev/DropBoxAPI2livecode.  Grab that.  There's a
> button for documentation or something like that at the top.  That takes you
> to a second card that describes what you have to do.  I am not aware of any
> code that completely automates the process.

thank you, will take a look at that library!


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Re: Dropbox help 3 (OAuth app authorization flow?)

[Klaus major-k via use-livecode]

Hi Mike,

> Am 29.01.2018 um 21:11 schrieb Mike Kerner via use-livecode 
> :
> 
> What is failing on mobile or other machines?  Are you getting an error?

I can use MY accesstoken on MY machine, but that will not work on other 
machines.

On other machines I need to implement the "OAuth app authorization flow" of 
Dropbox
as described here: 

And I have no idea how that should look/be done in Livecode.

Can this be scripted completely or does the user really need to copy a token at 
Dropbox 
and enter in my application? That is the part I really don't get...

> That reminds me, I have a more recent version of the LC dropbox library
> that does more complete error reporting.  If I remember correctly Monte is
> going to integrate this version in an upcoming LC but I don't remember when
> or if it's in 9 DP11
> Attach this as a substack.  The error reporting will be more descriptive:
> https://github.com/macMikey/LCDropboxLibrary

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Re: Dropbox help 3 (OAuth app authorization flow?)

[Klaus major-k via use-livecode]

Hi Mike,

> Am 29.01.2018 um 19:55 schrieb Mike Kerner via use-livecode 
> <use-livecode@lists.runrev.com>:
> 
> What specifically would you like to know, Klaus?
> use dropboxUpload to do an upload.

yes, sure, that works on my machine, but not on other user computers and/or
mobile devices! 

Therefore my question for the "OAuth app authorization flow" of Dropbox
and how to implement this in Livecode.

> Check out Gerard's Dropbox API v2 stack for a stack you can use to play so
> you can understand what's going on.
> I don't think he has his own repo, so you can download it from mine:
> https://github.com/macMikey/dropboxapi_v2
> The api is slightly different than LC's library, because when Monte wrote
> LC's he made changes to Gerard's code to support things like asynchronous
> calls, but they map 1:1.
> Don't forget that unlike in the phx library, you have to add a slash on the
> front of all your paths in both Gerard's and LC's libraries.

yes, thanks, already been bitten by that one :-D

Thank you, will look at the above mentioned library!

> On Mon, Jan 29, 2018 at 12:25 PM, Klaus major-k via use-livecode <
> use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:
> 
>> Hi friends,
>> 
>> OK, now I'm able to uplod files to my dropbox, but if I want to publish
>> the app,
>> I need to implement the "OAuth app authorization flow" of Dropbox into my
>> app!?
>> 
>> The user will only be able to print to a PDF and then upload this PDF to
>> his Dropbox,
>> so nothing fancy, just upload a file to his dropbox.
>> 
>> After reading teh Dropbox API docs, I have a basic understanding how this
>> works,
>> but have no idea how to practically implement this into Livecode.
>> 
>> Any hints highly appreciated, thank you!

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Re: Saving Changes in iOS

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> Am 29.01.2018 um 18:57 schrieb Klaus major-k via use-livecode 
> <use-livecode@lists.runrev.com>:
> 
> Hi Roger,
> 
>> Am 29.01.2018 um 18:41 schrieb Roger Guay via use-livecode 
>> <use-livecode@lists.runrev.com>:
>> 
>> Hi Klaus,
>> 
>> So are you saying that I create a folder called 
>> "specialfolderpath("documents”)”, add this folder to the “Copy Files” of the 
>> Standalone Application Settings, and put my MainStack into it?
> 
> no, I'm not saying this! :-)
> Please read up the specialfolderpath() section in the dictionary.
> 
> 1. specialfolderpath("documents”) is the folder inside of the application 
> bundle where we have write permissions!
> It is already there, do NOT try to create it!

Addition, this only applies to iOS and Android!

On desktop, the documents folder is on oyur hard disk, to see it on your 
machine, use the message box:
answer specialfolderpath("documents")

> 2. Add your "main" stack via the "Copy files" to your app.
> 
> 3. Then do this when the app (launcher) starts (preopenstack or openstack)
> ...
> ## Stack in users docs folder, where we have write permissions, means where 
> we can SAVE that stack:
> put specialfoderpath("documents") & "/your mainstack here.livecode" into 
> tTargetStack
> 
> ## This is the stack you added via "Copy files":
> put specialfoderpath("resources") & "/your mainstack here.livecode" into 
> tSourceStack
> 
> ## check if the app had already been opened before:
> if there is NOT a file tTargetStack then
>  put url("binfile:" & tSourceStack) into url("binfile:" & tTargetStack)
> end if
> 
> ## Now open that new stack in the users docs folder and save it later without 
> problems:
> go stack tTargetStack
> ...
> 
> And don't forget to add:
> ...
> start using this stack
> ...
> to your LAUNCHER Stack before opening other stacks, so your separate "main" 
> stack can use 
> all of its scripts, libraries, externals etc.
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Re: Saving Changes in iOS

[Klaus major-k via use-livecode]

Hi Roger,

> Am 29.01.2018 um 18:41 schrieb Roger Guay via use-livecode 
> :
> 
> Hi Klaus,
> 
> So are you saying that I create a folder called 
> "specialfolderpath("documents”)”, add this folder to the “Copy Files” of the 
> Standalone Application Settings, and put my MainStack into it?

no, I'm not saying this! :-)
Please read up the specialfolderpath() section in the dictionary.

1. specialfolderpath("documents”) is the folder inside of the application 
bundle where we have write permissions!
It is already there, do NOT try to create it!

2. Add your "main" stack via the "Copy files" to your app.

3. Then do this when the app (launcher) starts (preopenstack or openstack)
...
## Stack in users docs folder, where we have write permissions, means where we 
can SAVE that stack:
put specialfoderpath("documents") & "/your mainstack here.livecode" into 
tTargetStack

## This is the stack you added via "Copy files":
put specialfoderpath("resources") & "/your mainstack here.livecode" into 
tSourceStack

## check if the app had already been opened before:
if there is NOT a file tTargetStack then
  put url("binfile:" & tSourceStack) into url("binfile:" & tTargetStack)
end if

## Now open that new stack in the users docs folder and save it later without 
problems:
go stack tTargetStack
...

And don't forget to add:
...
start using this stack
...
to your LAUNCHER Stack before opening other stacks, so your separate "main" 
stack can use 
all of its scripts, libraries, externals etc.

> Thanks,
> Roger

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Dropbox help 3 (OAuth app authorization flow?)

[Klaus major-k via use-livecode]

Hi friends,

OK, now I'm able to uplod files to my dropbox, but if I want to publish the 
app, 
I need to implement the "OAuth app authorization flow" of Dropbox into my app!? 

The user will only be able to print to a PDF and then upload this PDF to his 
Dropbox, 
so nothing fancy, just upload a file to his dropbox.

After reading teh Dropbox API docs, I have a basic understanding how this 
works, 
but have no idea how to practically implement this into Livecode.

Any hints highly appreciated, thank you!


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Re: Saving Changes in iOS

[Klaus major-k via use-livecode]

Hi Roger,

> Am 29.01.2018 um 17:17 schrieb Roger Guay via use-livecode 
> :
> 
> Sorry Klaus and Ralph, but I’m not getting it. How/where do I find the "the 
> documents folder" or "the temporary folder”?

You already named it:
the documents folder
the temporary folder

Is equivalent to:
specialfolderpath("documents")
specialfolderpath("temporary")

> (Preparing right hand for dope-slap)
> Thanks,
> Roger
> 
>> On Jan 29, 2018, at 8:30 AM, Ralph DiMola  wrote:
>> 
>> Roger,
>> On Android and iOS "the engine folder" is read only. Any files/stacks you 
>> want to save/modify must be moved to "the documents folder" or "the 
>> temporary folder" before they can be modified/saved.

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Re: Saving Changes in iOS

[Klaus major-k via use-livecode]

Hi Roger,

> Am 29.01.2018 um 16:14 schrieb Roger Guay via use-livecode 
> :
> 
> I know I’m out to lunch again, but I notice that one cannot use the ol’ 
> Launcher+MainStack method in iOS to save user changes. What’s up with that? 
> How does one save user changes in iOS?

copy your MAIN stack to the users documents folder on first launch 
and open and save it from there!

> Thanks,
> 
> Roger

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Re: "clear" a command?

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Hi Paul,

> Am 26.01.2018 um 18:16 schrieb Paul Hibbert via use-livecode 
> <use-livecode@lists.runrev.com>:
> 
> Because “clear” is also a synonym of “delete”. :-)

I came to exact the same conclusion! :-D

> Paul
> 
>> On Jan 26, 2018, at 3:41 AM, Klaus major-k via use-livecode 
>> <use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:
>> Hi friends,
>> I just saw a code snippet in the german LC forum,
>> did not believe it would work, tested it and in fact it DID?
>> Here the line in question:
>> ...
>> clear the last word in field 1
>> ...
>> That actually deletes the last word of a field!? Holy Moses!
>> According to the docs "clear" is just one of the many INK blendmodes.

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Re: Preserving Detailed Field Content

[Klaus major-k via use-livecode]

Hi Roger,

> Am 26.01.2018 um 16:56 schrieb Roger Guay via use-livecode 
> :
> 
> I have a multiple line field with some lines of different color and strikeout 
> textStyle. If I set the custom property, the cContent, of that field to the 
> field itself, the textColor and TextStyle of each line is lost. Is there a 
> simple way to capture the contents of a field with varied textColor and 
> textStyle preserved?
> 
> Sorry if this sounds confusing.

it doesn't! :-)

Just set the custom property to the HTMLTEXT of the field!
And restore THAT later.

> Thanks very much,
> 
> Roger

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Re: "clear" a command?

[Klaus major-k via use-livecode]

Hi Hermann,

> Am 26.01.2018 um 13:51 schrieb hh via use-livecode 
> :
> 
> Klaus wrote: ... I only looked for "clear".
> 
> You never used that?

no, never even heard of that in the last 18 years of using MC and Rev and LC.

> This is a symptom for ... (forgot the name of that disease).

"Malmsheimer", like in Jochen M., the german cabaret artist, I think...? 8-)


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Re: "clear" a command?

[Klaus major-k via use-livecode]

Hi Hermann,

> Am 26.01.2018 um 13:43 schrieb hh via use-livecode 
> :
> 
> According to dictionary:
> "clear chunk" is a synonym to "delete chunk".

ah, yes, sorry, I only looked for "clear".
Thanks for the hint!


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"clear" a command?

[Klaus major-k via use-livecode]

Hi friends,

I just saw a code snippet in the german LC forum,
did not believe it would work, tested it and in fact it DID?

Here the line in question:
...
clear the last word in field 1
...
That actually deletes the last word of a field!? Holy Moses!

According to the docs "clear" is just one of the many INK blendmodes.
I'm completely puzzled! 

Any comment appreciated. :-)


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Re: LC Toolbar

[Klaus major-k via use-livecode]

Or just get used to ALT-Click in the FINDER/desktop or any other icon in the 
Dock. :-)

> Am 24.01.2018 um 22:00 schrieb Ron Metzker via use-livecode 
> :
> 
> You can also just hide LiveCode windows before you leave it. Very similar 
> command to what Paul mentions here. Just use Cmd-H and it will hide all of 
> LiveCodes windows without hiding anything else. If you want a completely 
> clear desktop and other apps are open, just do what Paul suggests and hide 
> everything but the finder by Cmd-Alt-H. To get back to LiveCode, you can 
> either Cmd-Tab to it or click the icon in the dock.
> 
> Ron 
> 
>> On Jan 24, 2018, at 12:19 PM, Paul Hibbert via use-livecode 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> LiveCode isn’t the only app to leave windows visible, so I’ve become used to 
>> typing Cmd-Alt-H if I switch to another app or the finder and there’s 
>> something in the way that doesn’t belong to the app in front.
>> 
>> Cmd-Alt-H is a system wide short-cut to “Hide Others”, so it should work in 
>> most apps and normally shows under the app menu.
>> 
>> Paul
>> 
>>> On Jan 24, 2018, at 12:09 PM, J. Landman Gay via use-livecode 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> I get the same thing, but it hasn't bothered me. If LC is frontmost and you 
>>> click on the desktop, the toolbar remains as you describe. But if you click 
>>> on the Finder icon in the dock, or use Cmd-tab to cycle to another app, the 
>>> toolbar is moved behind the frontmost app. Since I use Cmd-tab a lot, I've 
>>> hardly noticed.
>>> 
>>> Basically any command the brings an app completely to the front will remove 
>>> the toolbar from view. If you use OS X's ability to intersperse app 
>>> windows, then the toolbar remains since it's a window like any other.
>>> 
>>> On 1/24/18 1:43 PM, Marty Knapp via use-livecode wrote:
 But it isn't like this in LC 6.6.5 (didn't use anything in between). If 
 I'm in the Finder the top LC toolbar obscures anything behind it on the 
 desktop and I am unable to access folders and files I have there. Maybe I 
 haven't explained myself well. Here's a screenshot of the top of my screen 
 while LC is launched but Finder is at the front:
 
 This is happening on both my iMac and MacbookPro. If it's a feature, can I 
 change it? If it's a bug I'll file a report. I'm just surprised nobody 
 else is seeing this or finding it annoying. I shouldn't have to quit LC to 
 get to folders at the top of my screen. For now I've set my "View" to 
 "Toolbar Text" only (no icons) - that narrows it enough that I can access 
 stuff at the top of my screen.
 Marty
> On Tue, Jan 23, 2018 at 11:21 PM, J. Landman Gay via use-livecode <
> use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:
> 
>> On 1/23/18 6:34 PM, Marty Knapp via use-livecode wrote:
>> 
>>> So I just installed LC 8.1.8 on my Mac and the toolbar always displays
>>> whether or not LC is the active app. Is this a "feature?" I tried 
>>> disabling
>>> all plugins, etc. What am I missing? Thanks.
>>> 
>> Well, it's a separate document window so if you bring one window of
>> another app to the front the LC toolbar will still show. The same thing
>> happens with any OS X app. I can't remember now if the toolbar used to 
>> be a
>> palette, it would disappear if so.

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Re: Dropbox help 2

[Klaus major-k via use-livecode]

HA! Found it! :-)

I had to add a SLASH at the beginning og the PATH parameter:
...
dropboxUpload pAccessToken, "/dropboxtestlc1.rev", "overwrite", FALSE, FALSE, 
pData
...

> Am 20.01.2018 um 21:11 schrieb Klaus major-k via use-livecode 
> <use-livecode@lists.runrev.com>:
> 
> Hi Jaques,
> 
>> Am 20.01.2018 um 20:58 schrieb J. Landman Gay via use-livecode 
>> <use-livecode@lists.runrev.com>:
>> 
>> On 1/20/18 12:42 PM, Klaus major-k via use-livecode wrote:
>>> Hi Friends,
>>> what is wrong with this script?
>>> Anything to INTI before using "dropboxupload"?
>>> Or anything else I forgot?
>>> LC 9 dp 11, macOS 10.13.2.
>>> ...
>>> put url("binfile:/Volumes/HD500/Dokumente2/test1.livecode") into pData
>>> ## a small stack of 27 KB
>>> put "My personal Access token as generated from Dropbox here" into 
>>> pAccessToken
>>> dropboxUpload pAccessToken, "dropboxtestlc1.rev", "overwrite", FALSE, 
>>> FALSE, pData
>>> put it into fld 1
>>> ## I waited for hours, but fld 1 remains empty? No error, nada...
>>> ...
>> 
>> Try checking the result too.
> 
> ah, yes, sure! 8-)
> 
> I get -> tsneterr: HTTP response code 400 returned from server
> 
> According to the Dropbox API docs this means -> Bad input parameter.
> (if the LC dropbox library uses the HTTP protocol!)
> 
> So what parameter in my script may be wrong, if this is the actual problem?
> 
> Thank you!
> 
>> -- 
>> Jacqueline Landman Gay | jac...@hyperactivesw.com
>> HyperActive Software   | http://www.hyperactivesw.com
> 
> Best
> 
> Klaus
> 
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Re: Dropbox help 2

[Klaus major-k via use-livecode]

Hi Jaques,

> Am 20.01.2018 um 20:58 schrieb J. Landman Gay via use-livecode 
> <use-livecode@lists.runrev.com>:
> 
> On 1/20/18 12:42 PM, Klaus major-k via use-livecode wrote:
>> Hi Friends,
>> what is wrong with this script?
>> Anything to INTI before using "dropboxupload"?
>> Or anything else I forgot?
>> LC 9 dp 11, macOS 10.13.2.
>> ...
>> put url("binfile:/Volumes/HD500/Dokumente2/test1.livecode") into pData
>> ## a small stack of 27 KB
>> put "My personal Access token as generated from Dropbox here" into 
>> pAccessToken
>> dropboxUpload pAccessToken, "dropboxtestlc1.rev", "overwrite", FALSE, FALSE, 
>> pData
>> put it into fld 1
>> ## I waited for hours, but fld 1 remains empty? No error, nada...
>> ...
> 
> Try checking the result too.

ah, yes, sure! 8-)

I get -> tsneterr: HTTP response code 400 returned from server

According to the Dropbox API docs this means -> Bad input parameter.
(if the LC dropbox library uses the HTTP protocol!)

So what parameter in my script may be wrong, if this is the actual problem?

Thank you!

> -- 
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> HyperActive Software   | http://www.hyperactivesw.com

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Re: Dropbox help 2

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Am 20.01.2018 um 19:42 schrieb Klaus major-k via use-livecode 
<use-livecode@lists.runrev.com>:
> 
> Hi Friends,
> 
> ...
> Anything to INTI before using "dropboxupload"?

sorry, I meant INIT.


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Dropbox help 2

[Klaus major-k via use-livecode]

Hi Friends,

what is wrong with this script?

Anything to INTI before using "dropboxupload"?
Or anything else I forgot?

LC 9 dp 11, macOS 10.13.2.

...
put url("binfile:/Volumes/HD500/Dokumente2/test1.livecode") into pData
## a small stack of 27 KB
put "My personal Access token as generated from Dropbox here" into pAccessToken
dropboxUpload pAccessToken, "dropboxtestlc1.rev", "overwrite", FALSE, FALSE, 
pData
put it into fld 1
## I waited for hours, but fld 1 remains empty? No error, nada...
...

Thanks a lot in advance!


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Re: post to httpS?

[Klaus major-k via use-livecode]

Hi Paul,

> Am 18.01.2018 um 14:18 schrieb Paul Richards via use-livecode 
> <use-livecode@lists.runrev.com>:
> 
> I think you might be looking for:   libURLSetSSLVerification false

YES, that was it, thank you! :-)

> regards, 
> Paul 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: use-livecode [mailto:use-livecode-boun...@lists.runrev.com] On Behalf 
> Of Klaus major-k via use-livecode
> Sent: 18 January 2018 13:13
> To: How to use LiveCode <use-livecode@lists.runrev.com>
> Cc: Klaus major-k <kl...@major-k.de>
> Subject: Re: post to httpS?
> 
> Hi Matthias,
> 
>> Am 18.01.2018 um 14:06 schrieb Matthias Rebbe via use-livecode 
>> <use-livecode@lists.runrev.com>:
>> 
>> Klaus,
>> 
>> just tried it here with LC9 DP11 (tsNet) with success. 
> 
> ah, yes tsNet, thank you!
> 
> Anyone remembers what to set (to false) BEFORE we post something to an HTTPS 
> in version 5.02?
> 
>> Regards,
>> Matthias
>> 
>>> Am 18.01.2018 um 13:28 schrieb Klaus major-k via use-livecode 
>>> <use-livecode@lists.runrev.com <mailto:use-livecode@lists.runrev.com>>:
>>> 
>>> Hi friends,
>>> 
>>> I did not POST something to an URL for a long time, so what is the 
>>> current state, can we POST to HTTPS urls with LC 8/9?

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Re: post to httpS?

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Hi Matthias,

> Am 18.01.2018 um 14:06 schrieb Matthias Rebbe via use-livecode 
> <use-livecode@lists.runrev.com>:
> 
> Klaus,
> 
> just tried it here with LC9 DP11 (tsNet) with success. 

ah, yes tsNet, thank you!

Anyone remembers what to set (to false) BEFORE we post something to an HTTPS in 
version 5.02?

> Regards,
> Matthias
> 
> 
> Matthias Rebbe
> Tel +49 5741 31
> ‌https://matthiasrebbe.eu <https://matthiasrebbe.eu/>‌
> 
>> Am 18.01.2018 um 13:28 schrieb Klaus major-k via use-livecode 
>> <use-livecode@lists.runrev.com <mailto:use-livecode@lists.runrev.com>>:
>> 
>> Hi friends,
>> 
>> I did not POST something to an URL for a long time, so what is the current 
>> state, 
>> can we POST to HTTPS urls with LC 8/9?
>> 
>> Thanks for any hint!

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post to httpS?

[Klaus major-k via use-livecode]

Hi friends,

I did not POST something to an URL for a long time, so what is the current 
state, 
can we POST to HTTPS urls with LC 8/9?

Thanks for any hint!


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Re: Dropbox help

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Hi Mike,

> Am 16.01.2018 um 15:28 schrieb Mike Kerner via use-livecode 
> :
> 
> Klaus,
> The good news is that this is all fairly straightforward.
> appKey, appSecret, tokenKey, and tokenSecret are all obsolete and should
> not do anything.  You need the “Generated Access Token”.
> 1) Go to www.dropbox.com/developers/apps
> 2) Tap on your app
> 3) Scroll down to the “Generated access token” button.  Hit the button,
> copy the code
> 4) This is your oauth2 token that you will use in your code
> 4.5) I have “allow implicit grant” set to “Allow” for several of my apps,
> because it makes the process less complicated, but YMMV.  I do not fiddle
> with the URL’s, redirects, webhooks, etc.
> 5) If you’re using 9, use LC’s dropbox library that is built into LC. If
> you’re using 8, you can copy it from 9 or you can grab it from my github
> repo (I’m a couple commits ahead of LC’s version due to a couple bug
> fixes).  www.github.com/macmikey/lcdropboxlibrary
> 6) Grab Gerard’s dropbox 2 stack either from his repo or from mine so you
> can do some testing with something we know works.  His api is slightly
> different b/c Monte modified it when he added it to LC, but the syntax is
> close enough and the mapping is 1:1.  Gerard has a couple of new features
> he just added that have not been integrated into LC’s library, yet.

thanks a lot!


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Re: Dropbox help

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Hi Andy,

> Am 16.01.2018 um 15:09 schrieb AndyP via use-livecode 
> :
> 
> Does this help?
> 
> https://blogs.dropbox.com/developers/2014/05/generate-an-access-token-for-your-own-account/
> 
>   

yes, thanks a lot!

> -
> Andy Piddock 

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Dropbox help

[Klaus major-k via use-livecode]

Hi freidns,

now I created a new "app" at my Dropbox account and received an 
app ID and an app "secret".

Now I want to simply upload a file to my dropbox but what on earth
has the infamous "pAccessToken" to do with the app ID and app "secret"?

If nothing where can I get my "pAccessToken"?
...
put url("binfile:" & path_to_pdf_file_here) into pData
dropboxUpload ?, "name_of_target_file.pdf", "overwrite", "", "", pData
...

As you see, i have no idea so far, any help much appreciated! :-)


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Re: Browser widget and revbrowserback/revbrowserforward

[Klaus major-k via use-livecode]

Hi Klaus,

> Am 10.01.2018 um 19:52 schrieb Klaus major-k via use-livecode 
> <use-livecode@lists.runrev.com>:
> 
> Hi friends,
> 
> a user in the forum asked this questio and I would also like to know :-)
> 
> With "revbrowser" we had a simple command to browser the browser
> history: revBrowserBack and RevBrowserForward
> Is there a similar feature in the Browser Widget?
> 
> Thanks for any hint!

...
go forward in widget "el browsero"
...
go back in widget "el browsero"
...


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Re: Externally reffed-off

[Klaus major-k via use-livecode]

Hi Richmond,

> Am 10.01.2018 um 21:14 schrieb Richmond Mathewson via use-livecode 
> :
> 
> Although "/" was mentioned in the post to which I replied I have come across
> places (not sure where: Windows?) where the itemDelimiter for pathways is
> a backslash "\" . . .

internally LC uses the SLASH as a pathdelimiter always and on ANY platform!

> Richmond.
> 
> On 10/1/2018 9:02 pm, Stephen Barncard via use-livecode wrote:
>> We can count on you, Richmond to ask the questions that the rest of us are
>> afraid to ask
>> 
>>  thanks for being here,  grumpy or not
>> 
>> --
>> Stephen Barncard - Sebastopol Ca. USA -
>> mixstream.org
>> 
>> On Wed, Jan 10, 2018 at 10:50 AM, Richmond Mathewson via use-livecode <
>> use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> Presumably the itemDelimiter should be "/" ?

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Re: where are Livecode crash logs stored?

[Klaus major-k via use-livecode]

Hi Matthias,

> Am 10.01.2018 um 20:27 schrieb Matthias Rebbe via use-livecode 
> :
> 
> Thanks Klaus,
> ~/Library/Logs/RunRev lists only the  file LivecodeToolsLog.txt
> and  ~/Library/Logs/DiagnosticReports is empty.

hmm, I have some crash logs in my "DiagnosticReports" folder, so this was my 
first idea.

Please open "Konsole" (im Ordner Dienstprogramme) and see if it lists any LC 
crash log somewhere.
If yes, right-click on the entry  if possible and select "Show in Finder".

> Matthias

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Re: where are Livecode crash logs stored?

[Klaus major-k via use-livecode]

Hi Matthias,

> Am 10.01.2018 um 20:06 schrieb Matthias Rebbe via use-livecode 
> :
> 
> Hi,
> 
> i need to send a Livecode crash log to a developer of a database driver.
> Where do i find that log on Mac OS X?
> Calling  revdatafromquery functions freezes Livecode immediately and i am not 
> able to get it back. I need to force quit it in the Finder.
> 
> I thought i could find them in ~/Library/Application 
> Support/Runrev/CrashLogs, but that folder is empty.
> Is there another place or is no log written because Livecode freezes 
> completely.

also check: 
~/Library/Logs/RunRev
and
~/Library/Logs/DiagnosticReports

> Regards,
> 
> Matthias 

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Browser widget and revbrowserback/revbrowserforward

[Klaus major-k via use-livecode]

Hi friends,

a user in the forum asked this questio and I would also like to know :-)

With "revbrowser" we had a simple command to browser the browser
history: revBrowserBack and RevBrowserForward
Is there a similar feature in the Browser Widget?

Thanks for any hint!


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Re: Externally reffed-off

[Klaus major-k via use-livecode]

Hi Richmond,

> Am 10.01.2018 um 13:23 schrieb Richmond Mathewson via use-livecode 
> :
> 
> And, IF, I were to try to port the thing to Android or iPad/iPhone would
> specialfolderpath "do it" over there as well?

yes, as stated in the dictionary!

> Richmond.

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Re: Externally reffed-off

[Klaus major-k via use-livecode]

Hi Richmond,

> Am 10.01.2018 um 13:20 schrieb Richmond Mathewson via use-livecode 
> <use-livecode@lists.runrev.com>:
> 
> Well, YOUR LiveCode, MY LiveCode, EVERYONE'S LiveCode:

ah, snappish answers! 
A typical reaction after having been caught! :-D

> YOUR recipe worked.
> Thanks a bucket!

You're welcome!

> Richmond.
> 
> On 10/1/2018 2:01 pm, Klaus major-k via use-livecode wrote:
>> Hi Richmond,
>> 
>>> Am 10.01.2018 um 12:57 schrieb Richmond Mathewson via use-livecode 
>>> <use-livecode@lists.runrev.com>:
>>> 
>>> My "problem" Klaus is that I don't know YOUR LiveCode,
>> that's why I wrote "Know YOUR Livecode" and not "Know MY Livecode", Sir! :-)
>> 
>>> but I do know MY LiveCode.
>>> 
>>> I have a theory that once one has been working inwith a system for many 
>>> years
>>> one's methods and mindset become fixed in a way that may not be very useful.
>> But you know specialfolderpath("resources") and the fact that everything you 
>> add to
>> your standalone(s) via the "Copy files..." tab in the standalone builder 
>> settings can be
>> found in that sepcialfolderpath in the standalone?
>> 
>>> Best, Richmond.
>>> 
>>> On 10/1/2018 1:32 pm, Klaus major-k via use-livecode wrote:
>>>>> Am 10.01.2018 um 12:17 schrieb Mike Bonner via use-livecode 
>>>>> <use-livecode@lists.runrev.com>:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Change it to..
>>>>> set the defaultfolder to item 1 to -5 of the effective filename of this
>>>>> stack
>>>>> 
>>>>> and it should work. I don't have an available mac to test though, so
>>>>> tweakage might be necessary. (not likely though its pretty
>>>>> straightforward)
>>>>> 
>>>>> You can put it in an if block if you want so that if the environment is
>>>>> development you use the first method, else you use the second.
>>>> Know your Livecode! :-)
>>>> ...
>>>> set the defaultfolder to specialfolderpath("resources")
>>>> ...
>>>> 
>>>> This should however not be neccessary since relative pathnames that work in
>>>> the IDE should also work in a standalone and actually do!

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Re: Externally reffed-off

[Klaus major-k via use-livecode]

Hi Richmond,

> Am 10.01.2018 um 13:13 schrieb Richmond Mathewson via use-livecode 
> :
> 
> I thought I'd "play a game", so I set up a new stack with 2 buttons:
> 
> [Mac OS]
> 
> Button 1 contained this script:
> 
> onmouseUp
>setthedefaultfoldertospecialfolderpath("resources"
> endmouseUp
> 
> and Button 2 contained this script:
> 
> onmouseUp
>  putthedefaultFolder
> endmouseUp
> 
> I clicked on Button 1 and then on Button 2
> 
> and got this in the Message Box:
> 
> /Users/richmondmathewson/LiveCode/LiveCode Indy 
> 8.1.8.app/Contents/Tools/Toolset

sounds like you did not SAVE that stack so far.
If saved specialfolderpath("resources") shoud give you the folder that stack 
has beeen saved in!

> ...
> Richmond.

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Re: Externally reffed-off

[Klaus major-k via use-livecode]

Hi Richmond,

> Am 10.01.2018 um 12:57 schrieb Richmond Mathewson via use-livecode 
> <use-livecode@lists.runrev.com>:
> 
> My "problem" Klaus is that I don't know YOUR LiveCode,

that's why I wrote "Know YOUR Livecode" and not "Know MY Livecode", Sir! :-)

> but I do know MY LiveCode.
> 
> I have a theory that once one has been working inwith a system for many years
> one's methods and mindset become fixed in a way that may not be very useful.

But you know specialfolderpath("resources") and the fact that everything you 
add to 
your standalone(s) via the "Copy files..." tab in the standalone builder 
settings can be
found in that sepcialfolderpath in the standalone?

> Best, Richmond.
> 
> On 10/1/2018 1:32 pm, Klaus major-k via use-livecode wrote:
>> 
>>> Am 10.01.2018 um 12:17 schrieb Mike Bonner via use-livecode 
>>> <use-livecode@lists.runrev.com>:
>>> 
>>> Change it to..
>>> set the defaultfolder to item 1 to -5 of the effective filename of this
>>> stack
>>> 
>>> and it should work. I don't have an available mac to test though, so
>>> tweakage might be necessary. (not likely though its pretty
>>> straightforward)
>>> 
>>> You can put it in an if block if you want so that if the environment is
>>> development you use the first method, else you use the second.
>> Know your Livecode! :-)
>> ...
>> set the defaultfolder to specialfolderpath("resources")
>> ...
>> 
>> This should however not be neccessary since relative pathnames that work in
>> the IDE should also work in a standalone and actually do!

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Re: Externally reffed-off

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> Am 10.01.2018 um 12:17 schrieb Mike Bonner via use-livecode 
> :
> 
> Change it to..
> set the defaultfolder to item 1 to -5 of the effective filename of this
> stack
> 
> and it should work. I don't have an available mac to test though, so
> tweakage might be necessary. (not likely though its pretty
> straightforward)
> 
> You can put it in an if block if you want so that if the environment is
> development you use the first method, else you use the second.

Know your Livecode! :-)
...
set the defaultfolder to specialfolderpath("resources")
...

This should however not be neccessary since relative pathnames that work in 
the IDE should also work in a standalone and actually do!

> On Wed, Jan 10, 2018 at 4:05 AM, Mike Bonner  wrote:
> 
>> Its because of this...
>> 
>> *Cross-platform note:* On OS X systems, standalone applications are
>> stored as application bundles. A bundle behaves like a file but is
>> actually a folder, and the main stack of a standalone application is
>> inside this folder. The filename of stack property reports the location
>> of the application inside the bundle, not the bundle'slocation. For
>> example, if the bundle's file path is "/Volumes/Disk/MyApp.app/", the
>> filename of the application's main stack might be
>> "/Volumes/Disk/MyApp.app/Contents/MacOS/MyApp".
>> 
>> On Wed, Jan 10, 2018 at 3:54 AM, Richmond Mathewson via use-livecode <
>> use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> I am currently working on something that calls a lot of external images
>>> which are stored
>>> in a folder called "rez" in the same location as my stack, and when my
>>> stack opens it
>>> works its way through the script:
>>> 
>>> onpreOpenStack
>>>setitemDelto"/"
>>>setthedefaultFoldertoitem 1 to-2 of(theeffectivefileNameofthis stack)
>>>gotocard "TITLE"
>>> endpreOpenStack

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Re: Object layers

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Hi Craig,

> Am 07.01.2018 um 18:13 schrieb dunbarx via use-livecode 
> :
> 
> "I have experienced that ungrouping may send the individual objects to random
> layers. "
> 
> First, what Klaus said.
> 
> Second, layer order is preserved pretty well in LC. When you set the layer
> of the group to top, as Kluas

sheesh... 8-)

> suggests, and then ungroup, all the child
> controls take the topmost layers, with their individual order reflecting
> their order when they were initially grouped.

although I am quite active in the forum and here on the list, I did NOT respond
to this thread so far, you mean Randy H. :-)

> Craig Newman

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Re: text encoding problem Mac to iOS?

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Am 07.01.2018 um 13:01 schrieb Klaus major-k via use-livecode 
<use-livecode@lists.runrev.com>:
> 
> Hallo Hermann,
> 
>> Am 06.01.2018 um 21:09 schrieb hh via use-livecode 
>> <use-livecode@lists.runrev.com>:
>> 
>> I tested this as follows (what shows that all my presumptions are wrong):
>> 
>> 1. Downloaded and installed in the IDE the default iOSFont SF from here
>> ___https://developer.apple.com/fonts/
>> 2. Set the font SF Text Regular for both the field and the dataGrid header
>> 3. Wrote Text (incl. umlauts) directly into the field and directly into
>> ___the contents of the header
>> 
>> So clipboard effects and different default font settings are excluded.
>> 
>> The effect remains exactly the same as you (Klaus) describe.
>> For me it is now clear that this is a bug of the datagrid.
>> 
>> p.s. Tested only in the simulator but the font is the same on real hardware.
> 
> thanks for testing!
> 
> I think I found the culprit:
> In the Datagrid Library in the handler -> setprop dgColumnLabel [pColumn] 
> pValue
> Line 6094:
> ...
> if the platform is "macos" then put "mac" into theColsA[pColumn]["encoding"]
> ...
> 
> If I change "mac" to "utf8", the header look fine in the simulator!
> Did not test the windows encoding, but should surely also read "utf8"
> 
> Will file a but report later today.

done: <http://quality.livecode.com/show_bug.cgi?id=20836>

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Re: text encoding problem Mac to iOS?

[Klaus major-k via use-livecode]

Hallo Hermann,

> Am 06.01.2018 um 21:09 schrieb hh via use-livecode 
> :
> 
> I tested this as follows (what shows that all my presumptions are wrong):
> 
> 1. Downloaded and installed in the IDE the default iOSFont SF from here
> ___https://developer.apple.com/fonts/
> 2. Set the font SF Text Regular for both the field and the dataGrid header
> 3. Wrote Text (incl. umlauts) directly into the field and directly into
> ___the contents of the header
> 
> So clipboard effects and different default font settings are excluded.
> 
> The effect remains exactly the same as you (Klaus) describe.
> For me it is now clear that this is a bug of the datagrid.
> 
> p.s. Tested only in the simulator but the font is the same on real hardware.

thanks for testing!

I think I found the culprit:
In the Datagrid Library in the handler -> setprop dgColumnLabel [pColumn] pValue
Line 6094:
...
if the platform is "macos" then put "mac" into theColsA[pColumn]["encoding"]
...

If I change "mac" to "utf8", the header look fine in the simulator!
Did not test the windows encoding, but should surely also read "utf8"

Will file a but report later today.


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Re: text encoding problem Mac to iOS?

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> Am 06.01.2018 um 18:57 schrieb Klaus major-k via use-livecode 
> <use-livecode@lists.runrev.com>:
> 
> Hi Hermann
> 
>> Am 06.01.2018 um 18:49 schrieb hh via use-livecode 
>> <use-livecode@lists.runrev.com>:
>> 
>> You use the clipboard with different objects.
>> These objects may have different default font settings and
>> different default text encodings.
>> And these default fonts may have different sets of glyphs missing.
>> 
>> Possibly you mave have also to encode the text that you paste.
>> 
>>> lock the clipboard
>>> set the rawClipboardData["public.utf8-plain-text"] \
>>> to textEncode("äöüÄÖÜß", "UTF-8" ) -- OSX
>>> unlock the clipboard
> 
> not sure I can follow, I did the copy in the IDE!

to be precise:
I copied the text of the label of the datagrid column from the appropriate 
field in the INSPECTOR
and pasted it into the appropriate field of the INSPECTOR for the field. IN THE 
IDE!


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Re: text encoding problem Mac to iOS?

[Klaus major-k via use-livecode]

Hi Hermann

> Am 06.01.2018 um 18:49 schrieb hh via use-livecode 
> :
> 
> You use the clipboard with different objects.
> These objects may have different default font settings and
> different default text encodings.
> And these default fonts may have different sets of glyphs missing.
> 
> Possibly you mave have also to encode the text that you paste.
> 
>> lock the clipboard
>> set the rawClipboardData["public.utf8-plain-text"] \
>>  to textEncode("äöüÄÖÜß", "UTF-8" ) -- OSX
>> unlock the clipboard

not sure I can follow, I did the copy in the IDE!

No scripting, copying, pasting or anything else in the standalone, 
it immediately looks like this way after the app started up in the simulator.

Am I really talking chinese (specivo Mandarin)? :-D

I uploaded the stack here if someone likes to take a look:



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Re: text encoding problem Mac to iOS?

[Klaus major-k via use-livecode]

Hi all,

> Am 06.01.2018 um 17:22 schrieb hh via use-livecode 
> :
> 
> Assuming you are on Mac you could try:
> 
> lock the clipboard
> set the rawClipboardData["public.utf8-plain-text"] \
>  to textEncode("äöüÄÖÜß", "UTF-8" ) -- OSX
> unlock the clipboard

there is no scripting involved in my stack at all!

I saved the stack the way you can see in in the screenshot and in the sim it 
looks
like in the screenshot, with wrecked umlauts in the LABEL of the datagrid.

No scripting, no nothing actually :-/

I only set the language of the simulator to GERMAN, but this also happens 
when set to english/default.


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Re: text encoding problem Mac to iOS?

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Hi Richmond,

> Am 06.01.2018 um 17:14 schrieb Richmond Mathewson via use-livecode 
> <use-livecode@lists.runrev.com>:
> 
> set the unicodeText of fld "blahblah" to the unicodeText /of however you 
> refer to a column in a datagrid/

"unicodetext" etc. have been deprecated since version 7.
Remember version 7: "Unicode, it just works!" :-D

But that is really not my problem I think!
These are just two FIELD object (field and LABEL of column), or not?
If yes, why the difference?

> ?
> 
> On 6/1/2018 5:01 pm, Klaus major-k via use-livecode wrote:
>> Hi friends,
>> 
>> please take a look at this screenshot:
>> <http://major-k.de/umlauts_in_simulator.jpg>
>> left: IDE
>> right: simulator
>> 
>> Maybe someone can explain what I am doing wrong, if at all?
>> Here is what I did:
>> 1. I created a new stack (for iPhone 5)
>> 2. I created an empty datagrid and entered some german umlauts
>> for the LABEL of the only column named "Col 1"
>> 3. I created one field and copied/pasted that LABEL into the field
>> 4. Saved the stack and run it in the simulator
>> 
>> 5. I did NOT set any font for the stack, field and datagrid or any other 
>> prop!
>> 6. But this is how it looks in the simulator and, as I was told, also on an 
>> actual devidce!?
>> 
>> I use LC 8.1.9 RC1 and Xcode 9.2, same with LC 9 DP11.

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text encoding problem Mac to iOS?

[Klaus major-k via use-livecode]

Hi friends,

please take a look at this screenshot:

left: IDE
right: simulator

Maybe someone can explain what I am doing wrong, if at all?
Here is what I did:
1. I created a new stack (for iPhone 5)
2. I created an empty datagrid and entered some german umlauts 
for the LABEL of the only column named "Col 1"
3. I created one field and copied/pasted that LABEL into the field
4. Saved the stack and run it in the simulator

5. I did NOT set any font for the stack, field and datagrid or any other prop!
6. But this is how it looks in the simulator and, as I was told, also on an 
actual devidce!?

I use LC 8.1.9 RC1 and Xcode 9.2, same with LC 9 DP11.

Thanks for any hints!


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Re: Lower part of Script Editor (the one with variabels etc.) disappeared, how to get it back?

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Hi Hermann,

> Am 05.01.2018 um 22:57 schrieb hh via use-livecode 
> :
> 
>> Klaus wrote:
>> He is using a MacBook and LC 2.18.
> 
> Hi Klaus,
> 
> where can I find LC 2.18? Is this a private edition?

yes, very private, but its functionality equals to the stock version of 
Livecode 8.1.8! 
8-)


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Re: Trying to delete a Mac application

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Hi Graham,

> Am 05.01.2018 um 21:23 schrieb Graham Samuel via use-livecode 
> :
> 
> Thanks to Klaus and Ken, I know how to address the Mac Applications folder. 
> But when I try to delete an app (which I take to be a folder of the form 
> xxx.app) by script, I get a result “can’t delete that file”. But as a user 
> -admittedly with admin privileges - I can move any app into the trash.
> 
> What am doing wrong?

no idea, sorry.

But did you try an with AppleScript?
#
tell application "Finder"
  delete file "Application name" of folder "Applications" of startup disk
end tell
#

> Graham

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Re: Lower part of Script Editor (the one with variabels etc.) disappeared, how to get it back?

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Hi Craig,

> Am 05.01.2018 um 17:32 schrieb dunbarx via use-livecode 
> :
> 
> Klaus is new at this.
> Be patient with him

thank you, you are very kind! 8-)

> Craig

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Re: Lower part of Script Editor (the one with variabels etc.) disappeared, how to get it back?

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Hi Bob,

> Am 05.01.2018 um 16:34 schrieb Bob Sneidar via use-livecode 
> <use-livecode@lists.runrev.com>:
> 
> At the bottom of the script window there should be 2 horizontal bars about 
> 3/8 inch long. This is the handle for the split pane control. 

thanks,yes, SHOULD be, but isn't! 8-)
We finally trashed the prefs to remoive this inconvenience.

> Bob S
> 
> 
>> On Jan 5, 2018, at 04:11 , Klaus major-k via use-livecode 
>> <use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi friends,
>> 
>> the subject says it all.
>> 
>> Out of a sudden*** the lower part of the script editor diappeared
>> from his machine. The part with the variables, Find etc.
>> How can we get it back? We really cannot debug this way :-/
>> 
>> He is using a MacBook and LC 2.18.
>> 
>> ***We have no idea when and how it disapperaed.
>> 
>> Thanks for any hint!

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Lower part of Script Editor (the one with variabels etc.) disappeared, how to get it back?

[Klaus major-k via use-livecode]

Hi friends,

the subject says it all.

Out of a sudden*** the lower part of the script editor diappeared
from his machine. The part with the variables, Find etc.
How can we get it back? We really cannot debug this way :-/

He is using a MacBook and LC 2.18.

***We have no idea when and how it disapperaed.

Thanks for any hint!


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Re: Finding the 'Applications' folder on a Mac

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Hi Graham,

> Am 04.01.2018 um 23:46 schrieb Graham Samuel via use-livecode 
> :
> 
> It looks to me that specialFolderPath doesn’t give a way of finding the 
> /Applications folder on a Mac (or presumably the equivalent on a PC). If one 
> is running a standalone which has been placed in the Applications folder, 
> then it is possible to start with specialFolderPath(“engine”) and work back 
> to the Applications directory, but I suspect this is fraught with 
> uncertainty. Has anyone a solution?

...
put specialfolderpath("apps") into tApplicationFolder
...

Found this and more gemns here: 


> Graham 

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Re: native iOS button question

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Hi Paul,

> Am 04.01.2018 um 21:57 schrieb Paul Hibbert via use-livecode 
> <use-livecode@lists.runrev.com>:
> 
> According to the MessageWatcher the iOS Native Button doesn’t receive a 
> mouseUp/Down event, but the Android Native Button does, however, they both 
> receive a rawKeyDown message if I scroll while the mouse pointer is over 
> either button.  That suggests something is wrong to me, I would expect them 
> both to react the same.

thanks, I already found another solution without native buttons.
But there are some more widgets that do not react "on mouseup" unfortunately.

> Paul
> 
>> On Jan 4, 2018, at 12:10 PM, Klaus major-k via use-livecode 
>> <use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi friends,
>> 
>> is it true that the "native iOS button" widget will only run on 
>> iOS/Simulator?
>> Or can I also script and test it in the IDE? Looks like it does not react 
>> "on mouseup" at all.
>> Any hints welcome, thanks!

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native iOS button question

[Klaus major-k via use-livecode]

Hi friends,

is it true that the "native iOS button" widget will only run on iOS/Simulator?
Or can I also script and test it in the IDE? Looks like it does not react "on 
mouseup" at all.

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Re: problems with mobilepickphoto

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Hi friends,

found it!

> Am 03.01.2018 um 17:33 schrieb Klaus major-k via use-livecode 
> <use-livecode@lists.runrev.com>:
> 
> Hi friends,
> 
> I have a strange problem with "mobilepickphoto"!
> 
> Here the script:
> on mouseUp pMouseButton
> lock screen
> if the environment = "mobile" then
> mobilePickPhoto "library",212,212
> ## if the result is empty then

## This way! :-)
if the result = "cancel"
> exit mouseUp
> end if
> 
> ## Works on Device and simulator so far!
> 
> else

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problems with mobilepickphoto

[Klaus major-k via use-livecode]

Hi friends,

I have a strange problem with "mobilepickphoto"!

Here the script:
on mouseUp pMouseButton
lock screen
if the environment = "mobile" then
mobilePickPhoto "library",212,212
if the result is empty then
exit mouseUp
end if

## Works on Device and simulator so far!

else

answer file "Bitte ein Bild auswählen" with type "jpeg, png|jpg,png|"
if IT is empty then
exit mouseUp
end if
import paint from file it
end if

## When on MOBILE, the script stops here without any error?
## Works fine on desktop!

## Not executed on mobile?
 put last image into image "foto-01"

## Same for this line?
set the text of image "foto-01" to the text of last image

delete last img
...

Any hints very welcome, thank you!


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Re: submitting to apple store and google store ... how much of that process can be automated?

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Hi Tom,

> Am 29.12.2017 um 15:22 schrieb Tom Glod via use-livecode 
> <use-livecode@lists.runrev.com>:
> 
> hi guys...just to clear it up...i was going to use LC to create a system
> for the client in which they can create branded apps for their customers.
> the company is a yellow-pages kind of company that provides services to
> business.  so that would have fallen into the templated category.

AHA! :-)
Looks like I misunderstood your initial posting, thanks for clarifying!

> On Fri, Dec 29, 2017 at 7:49 AM, Matthias Rebbe via use-livecode <
> use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:
> 
>> 
>>> Am 29.12.2017 um 11:52 schrieb Klaus major-k via use-livecode <
>> use-livecode@lists.runrev.com <mailto:use-livecode@lists.runrev.com>>:
>>> 
>>> Hi Richard,
>>> 
>>>> Am 29.12.2017 um 03:03 schrieb Richard Gaskin via use-livecode <
>> use-livecode@lists.runrev.com <mailto:use-livecode@lists.runrev.com>>:
>>>> ...
>>>> Bad news: "Apple’s widened ban on templated apps is wiping small
>> businesses from the App Store"
>>>> <https://techcrunch.com/2017/12/08/apples-widened-ban-on-
>> templated-apps-is-wiping-small-businesses-from-the-app-store/ <
>> https://techcrunch.com/2017/12/08/apples-widened-ban-on-
>> templated-apps-is-wiping-small-businesses-from-the-app-store/>>
>>>> ...
>>> 
>>> I had no idea that LC is a “commercialized template or app generation
>> service”!?
>>> Is it?
>> 
>> I don´t think it is.
>> 
>> Richard provided the link because Tom wrote "I'm writing a proposal for a
>> company to offer branded courtesy apps to
>> their business customers…”...

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Re: submitting to apple store and google store ... how much of that process can be automated?

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Hi Richard,

> Am 29.12.2017 um 03:03 schrieb Richard Gaskin via use-livecode 
> :
> ...
> Bad news: "Apple’s widened ban on templated apps is wiping small businesses 
> from the App Store"
> 
> ...

I had no idea that LC is a “commercialized template or app generation service”!?
Is it?

> -- 
> Richard Gaskin

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Re: [off] Apple to unify ios/macos apps next year

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Hi Mike,

> Am 20.12.2017 um 21:14 schrieb Mike Kerner via use-livecode 
> :
> 
> https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2017-12-20/apple-is-said-to-have-plan-to-combine-iphone-ipad-and-mac-apps

yep, just read about this, will be a nightmare for the mothership 
(and us LC developers) for sure! 


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Re: Spending too much time in the bathroom with Danny Goodman

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Hi Richmond,

> Am 20.12.2017 um 19:40 schrieb Richmond Mathewson via use-livecode 
> <use-livecode@lists.runrev.com>:
> 
> Slimme Duitse ergernissen slapen Scotsman.

well, OK? 

That makes as much sense as the deadly MP joke:
Wenn ist das nun Stück gitt und Schlottermeyer? - Ja: Bayer-Hund. 
Das, oder die Flipper-Wald Gespütt!
:-D

> Thanks.
> 
> Richmond.
> 
> On 20/12/17 8:35 pm, Klaus major-k via use-livecode wrote:
>> Hi Richmond,
>> 
>>> Am 20.12.2017 um 19:31 schrieb Richmond Mathewson via use-livecode 
>>> <use-livecode@lists.runrev.com>:
>>> 
>>> ...
>>> Anyway, I came across
>>> on returnInField  and
>>> on enterInField
>>> which I found (this must go down as the ultimate example of reinventing the 
>>> wheel)
>>> are also "there" in LiveCode, which is marvellous . . .
>>> 
>>> But . . .
>>> as the children I code EFL programs for (and an awful lot of adults) treat 
>>> the
>>> RETURN key and the ENTER key as functionally equivalent I will either:
>>> Have to endless reduplicate scripts for the RETURN and the ENTER key,
>>> or, erm, find a way to do something like this:
>>> on returnInField or EnterInField
>>> 
>>> ?
>> I ususally script:
>> 
>> on returninfield
>>## lots of code here...
>>## and here, too!
>>## and even more here...
>> end returninfield
>> 
>> on enterinfield
>>   returninfield
>> end enterinfield

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Re: Spending too much time in the bathroom with Danny Goodman

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Hi Richmond,

> Am 20.12.2017 um 19:31 schrieb Richmond Mathewson via use-livecode 
> :
> 
> ...
> Anyway, I came across
> on returnInField  and
> on enterInField
> which I found (this must go down as the ultimate example of reinventing the 
> wheel)
> are also "there" in LiveCode, which is marvellous . . .
> 
> But . . .
> as the children I code EFL programs for (and an awful lot of adults) treat the
> RETURN key and the ENTER key as functionally equivalent I will either:
> Have to endless reduplicate scripts for the RETURN and the ENTER key,
> or, erm, find a way to do something like this:
> on returnInField or EnterInField
> 
> ?

I ususally script:

on returninfield
   ## lots of code here...
   ## and here, too!
   ## and even more here...
end returninfield

on enterinfield
  returninfield
end enterinfield

:-)

> Richmond.

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Re: The Detailed and Long files

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Hi Mark,

> Am 11.12.2017 um 15:47 schrieb Mark Waddingham via use-livecode 
> <use-livecode@lists.runrev.com>:
> On 2017-12-10 02:33, Klaus major-k via use-livecode wrote:
>> Hi Swami,
>>> Am 10.12.2017 um 02:25 schrieb Sannyasin Brahmanathaswami via use-livecode 
>>> <use-livecode@lists.runrev.com>:
>>> it was a huge step to do away with the defaultfolder requirement to get a 
>>> file list
>>> put files(somePath)  is wonderful
>>> but, "u" …we are still forced to change the defaultFolder to get
>>> the detailed|long files
>>> Is it too much to ask for these file info functions to also work "out of 
>>> the box" with just a path param to the folder?
>> already reported about a year ago:
>> <http://quality.livecode.com/show_bug.cgi?id=18010>
>> But unfortunately hibernated!?
> I added a second optional parameter to files/folders this morning:
> 
>  get files(pFolder) -- the files
>  get files(pFolder, "detailed") -- the detailed files
> 
> Its the minimal implementation - but fills the main gap that we currently 
> suffer. The second optional parameter 'pKind' could be used in future to 
> offer (maybe) an array form of return value, where you get an array mapping 
> filename to an array of file attributes.
> 
> PR: https://github.com/livecode/livecode/pull/6198

this is wonderful, thank you very much! :-)

> Warmest Regards,
> 
> Mark.

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Re: The Detailed and Long files

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Hi Swami,

> Am 10.12.2017 um 02:25 schrieb Sannyasin Brahmanathaswami via use-livecode 
> :
> 
> it was a huge step to do away with the defaultfolder requirement to get a 
> file list
> put files(somePath)  is wonderful
> but, "u" …we are still forced to change the defaultFolder to get
> the detailed|long files
> Is it too much to ask for these file info functions to also work "out of the 
> box" with just a path param to the folder?

already reported about a year ago:


But unfortunately hibernated!?

> BR

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Re: Printing HTML Text

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Hi Dan,

> Am 07.12.2017 um 22:38 schrieb Dan Friedman via use-livecode 
> :
> 
> Hello!
> 
> I have some formatted text in a field.  If I print it on a Mac, it’s perfect. 
>  If I print it on a windows computer (Win 7 or 10), I get VERY strange 
> results.  I have tried multiple computers with multiple printers.  All with 
> the same results.   I get these large black bars.  And on some printers half 
> the entire page is black!   Any thoughts or experiences with this?
> ...
> Anyone with some thoughts?
> 
> Thank you in advance,
> -Dan

did you:
...
set the formatForPrinting of stack "xyz" to TRUE
## where "xyz" is of course the stack with the card you want to print
...
before printing?


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Re: sorting with number late in name

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Hi Richard,

> Am 07.12.2017 um 00:29 schrieb Dr. Hawkins via use-livecode 
> :
> 
> Now that I've hit ten numbered items, I'm having an issue with
> maintenance routines.
> 
> If I have the items
> 
>  p13_1.07
>  p13_1.08
>  p13_2.04
>  p13_10.01
> 
> I want them to sort in that order.  However, the 10 will sort between
> the 1s and 2s.

"numeric" is the magic word! :-)

> Is there a "decent" way to do this without a custom function?
> 
> All I'm coming up with so far is a script that looks for a single
> digit number and renames to put a 0 in front of it . . .

...
set itemdel to "_"
sort lines of fld 1 numeric by item 2 of each
...
> 
> -- 
> Dr. Richard E. Hawkins, Esq.
> (702) 508-8462

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Re: Naive Player Questions

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Hi Graham,

> Am 06.12.2017 um 14:49 schrieb Graham Samuel via use-livecode 
> :
> 
> Yes, this is just plain nonsense - it may be a leftover from a previous 
> LC/Revolution idea that “play” would have a larger range of possible formats, 
> but in the current versions of LC the IDE should warn one off, no?
> 
> Graham
> 
>> On 6 Dec 2017, at 10:26, Richmond Mathewson via use-livecode 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> However, the fact that "import audio file" allows one to import an mp3 file
>> is a bit misleading.
>> 
>> Richmond.

I already reported this fact in 2014 with very little success:



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Re: Mac color chooser swatches do not work?

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Hi all,

> Am 05.12.2017 um 23:18 schrieb Klaus major-k via use-livecode 
> <use-livecode@lists.runrev.com>:
> 
> Hi Tore,
> 
>> Am 05.12.2017 um 23:03 schrieb Tore Nilsen via use-livecode 
>> <use-livecode@lists.runrev.com>:
>> Seems as if you are right, I cannot use the swatches either in LC 8.2 (dp2) 
>> with MacOS 10.13 beta (17A360a). Using the eyedropper tool to pick the 
>> colour from the swatches works here.
> thank you for testing, it does not even work with LC 5.02, so it looks this 
> is a very old bug
> which has not been discovered until today. Will create a bug report.

done: <http://quality.livecode.com/show_bug.cgi?id=20741>


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Re: Mac color chooser swatches do not work?

[Klaus major-k via use-livecode]

Hi Tore,

> Am 05.12.2017 um 23:03 schrieb Tore Nilsen via use-livecode 
> <use-livecode@lists.runrev.com>:
> 
> Seems as if you are right, I cannot use the swatches either in LC 8.2 (dp2) 
> with MacOS 10.13 beta (17A360a). Using the eyedropper tool to pick the colour 
> from the swatches works here.

thank you for testing, it does not even work with LC 5.02, so it looks this is 
a very old bug
which has not been discovered until today. :-)

Will create a bug report.

> Tore
> 
>> 5. des. 2017 kl. 22:55 skrev Klaus major-k via use-livecode 
>> <use-livecode@lists.runrev.com>:
>> 
>> Hi friends,
>> 
>> before I create a report, can someone please confirm that we
>> cannot use the "swatches" at the bottom of the Mac color chooser?
>> 
>> Clicking them does nothing, we have to"re-create" the color with 
>> the sliders (or Crayons or whatever we choose for selecting a color).
>> 
>> Works of course in e.g. "TextEdit" etc.
>> 
>> Thank you!

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Mac color chooser swatches do not work?

[Klaus major-k via use-livecode]

Hi friends,

before I create a report, can someone please confirm that we
cannot use the "swatches" at the bottom of the Mac color chooser?

Clicking them does nothing, we have to"re-create" the color with 
the sliders (or Crayons or whatever we choose for selecting a color).

Works of course in e.g. "TextEdit" etc.

Thank you!


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Re: Naive Player Questions

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Hi Richmond,

> Am 05.12.2017 um 19:38 schrieb Richmond Mathewson via use-livecode 
> :
> 
> NO: a player does not "demand" an external file as my example stack 
> demonstrates:
> https://www.dropbox.com/s/9v2juqqu7ojb83v/Carrot%20Player.livecode.zip?dl=0
> [ and I would be VERY interested to know, Graham, what that did to your 
> DropBox ]
> The player in that stack plays an embedded mp3 file.

It does NOT on a Mac, nor will it on Windows or wherever!

I suspect you have the MP3 in the same folder as the stack, so it might work 
for you 
on your machine but not as you think. :-)

> Richmond.

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Re: Naive Player Questions

[Klaus major-k via use-livecode]

Hi Panos,

> Am 05.12.2017 um 14:17 schrieb panagiotis merakos via use-livecode 
> :
> ...
> You can do that by checking "the playmate of player 1". ...

where "Player 1" = Hugh Heffner (RIP)? :-D


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Re: [ANN] Release 8.1.8

[Klaus major-k via use-livecode]

Hi Panos,

> Am 04.12.2017 um 17:06 schrieb panagiotis merakos via use-livecode 
> :
> 
> Hi Andre,
> 
> Sorry, I should have included a direct link to the Release Notes (I usually
> do :) )
> 
> http://livecodestatic.com/downloads/livecode/8_1_8/LiveCodeNotes-8_1_8.pdf

you exspected a laborious second mouseclick from our little "spanish" friend? 
How dare you? :-D

> Best,
> Panos
> --
> 
> On Mon, Dec 4, 2017 at 3:43 PM, Andre Garzia via use-livecode <
> use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:
> 
>> I like these emails a lot but I would like them even more if they contained
>> a direct link to the release notes :D

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Re: The coming of SVG

[Klaus major-k via use-livecode]

Hi Mark

> Am 03.11.2017 um 14:19 schrieb Mark Waddingham via use-livecode 
> :
> 
> Hi all,
> 
> My most recent talk at LCG (in October) was 'Building an SVG Widget' and in 
> order to talk about such a thing, I needed to actually build one - so I did :)
> 
> So, we are now firmly on the road to full SVG support in LiveCode!
> 
> At the moment the implementation only supports geometric shape tags, paths, 
> and solid color fills. However, it supports the standard fill/stroke 
> attributes and should work ...
> 
>  a) we would integrate the 'prototype' implemented for SVG as 
> 'com.livecode.widget.picture'
>  b) we would add a 'picture' noun to the language as the control type for 
> that widget
>  c) we would add icon reference support, allowing it to be used in place of 
> an image
>  d) we would add graphic-like shape properties, allowing you to use it in 
> place of a graphic
>  e) we would add support to the image tag in svg, and image-like image 
> properties, allowing it to be used in place of an image
>  f) we would gradually expand support for the range of SVG it can directly 
> render (gradients and layers are high on the hit list here)
> 
> In terms of timescale, we are currently looking at delivering 'just' (a) for 
> 9.0 (although I do have my eye on at least (c) too - we'll have to see how 
> other things we still need to ...
> I look forward to reading any feedback you might have!
> 
> Warmest Regards,
> 
> Mark.

this is really wonderful news!

Some questions regarding C: 
When using an image as a button icon, the size of the image in button = size of 
the image with that ID.
Will this behaviour be the same with SVG "icons"? Or will we be able to display 
the same SVG in different 
buttons at different sizes? Know what I mean?

If that is possible, then we would need another property for buttons (or the 
SVGs?) to be able to scale the 
icon inside of the button. Something to consider, I think. :-)


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Re: is a date

[Klaus major-k via use-livecode]

Hi Roger,

> Am 14.10.2017 um 18:30 schrieb Roger Eller via use-livecode 
> :
> 
> put "11/20/2017" is a date
> returns true
> 
> put "10" is a date
> returns true
> 
> put "raccoon" is a date
> returns false
> 
> 
> WHY is "10" seen as a date?

looks like the engine is seeing seconds also as a possible valid date.

convert 0 to long date and long time;put it -> Thursday, January 1, 1970 
1:00:00 AM
1:00:00 = DST here in germany!

convert 10 to long date and long time;put it -> Thursday, January 1, 1970 
1:00:10 AM
etc...

And of course:
put (the seconds) is a date -> TRUE

> ~Roger

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Re: = sign in script editor, Mac

[Klaus major-k via use-livecode]

Hi Craig,

> Am 19.09.2017 um 21:27 schrieb dunbarx via use-livecode 
> :
> 
> Klaus.
> 
> Huh?
> 
> My "=" key works fine, and if I use shift-0 I get ")"

I use a german keyboard layout where SHIFT & 0 results in =
This may differ from english layout.

> Or is this an 8.x thing?

Maybe, or a german (keyboard layout) thing? :-)

> Craig

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Re: = sign in script editor, Mac

[Klaus major-k via use-livecode]

Hi all,

> Am 19.09.2017 um 15:39 schrieb Klaus major-k via use-livecode 
> <use-livecode@lists.runrev.com>:
> 
> Hi friends,
> 
> someone already noticed that on a Mac we cannot use the = sign on the 
> numeric pad in the LC script editor? We have to use SHIFT & 0.
> 
> Will file a bug report later.

done: <http://quality.livecode.com/show_bug.cgi?id=20432>


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= sign in script editor, Mac

[Klaus major-k via use-livecode]

Hi friends,

someone already noticed that on a Mac we cannot use the = sign on the 
numeric pad in the LC script editor? We have to use SHIFT & 0.

Will file a bug report later.


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Re: replace and unicode?

[Klaus major-k via use-livecode]

> Am 07.09.2017 um 13:01 schrieb Mark Waddingham via use-livecode 
> <use-livecode@lists.runrev.com>:
> 
> On 2017-09-07 12:59, Klaus major-k via use-livecode wrote:
>> Hi all,
>> so embarrassing, there was no SPACE after the mm2, but a TAB! :-/
>> So I got it working, thank you for your help.
> 
> That was going to be my next question - were the 'spaces' actually spaces :)

obviously they weren't! :-D
Thank you!

> Warmest Regards,
> 
> Mark.
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Re: replace and unicode?

[Klaus major-k via use-livecode]

Hi all,

so embarrassing, there was no SPACE after the mm2, but a TAB! :-/
So I got it working, thank you for your help.

> Am 07.09.2017 um 12:55 schrieb Klaus major-k via use-livecode 
> <use-livecode@lists.runrev.com>:
> ...
>>> My effort so far:
>>> ...
>>> ## Read TXT file and make it LC compatible, this is doing fine:
>>> put url ("binfile:" & tFile) into tData
>>> put textdecode(tData,"UTF-8") into tDataComplete
>>> replace CRLF with CR in tDataComplete
>>> ## Superscript 2 in Unicode
>>> put numToCodepoint(0x00B2) into tSup
>>> ## But this line does nothing actually?
>>> replace "mm2 " with ("mm" & tSup & " ") in tDataComplete
>> 
>> I tried:
>> 
>> put "mm2 foo Танюша mm2 bar" into tText
>> put numToCodepoint(0x00B2) into tSup
>> replace "mm2 " with ("mm" & tSup & " ") in tText
>> put tText
>> 
>> Here in a variety of versions and it seems to work...
>> What is the contents of tDataComplete in the case you can't get to work?
> 
> The line in question before "replace":
> 40mm2 100mm2 200mm2
> The line in question after "replace":
> 40mm2 100mm2 200mm2
> ???
> 
> Even this in a field with that line does not work?
> ...
> put numToCodepoint(0x00B2) into tSup
> replace "mm2 " with ("mm" & tSup & " ") in fld 1
> ...

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Re: replace and unicode?

[Klaus major-k via use-livecode]

Hi Mark,

> Am 07.09.2017 um 12:47 schrieb Mark Waddingham via use-livecode 
> <use-livecode@lists.runrev.com>:
> 
> On 2017-09-07 12:35, Klaus major-k via use-livecode wrote:
>> Hi firends,
>> I am trying to replace "mm2" in a unicode text file with "mm(superscript2)"
>> but obviously "replace" does not do what I want or I am missing something!?
>> My effort so far:
>> ...
>> ## Read TXT file and make it LC compatible, this is doing fine:
>> put url ("binfile:" & tFile) into tData
>> put textdecode(tData,"UTF-8") into tDataComplete
>> replace CRLF with CR in tDataComplete
>> ## Superscript 2 in Unicode
>> put numToCodepoint(0x00B2) into tSup
>> ## But this line does nothing actually?
>> replace "mm2 " with ("mm" & tSup & " ") in tDataComplete
> 
> I tried:
> 
> put "mm2 foo Танюша mm2 bar" into tText
> put numToCodepoint(0x00B2) into tSup
> replace "mm2 " with ("mm" & tSup & " ") in tText
> put tText
> 
> Here in a variety of versions and it seems to work...
> 
> What is the contents of tDataComplete in the case you can't get to work?

The line in question before "replace":
40mm2 100mm2 200mm2

The line in question after "replace":
40mm2 100mm2 200mm2

???

Even this in a field with that line does not work?
...
put numToCodepoint(0x00B2) into tSup
replace "mm2 " with ("mm" & tSup & " ") in fld 1
...
? 

Tried with LC 8.16 Stable on macOS 10.12.6.

> Warmest Regards,
> 
> Mark.

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replace and unicode?

[Klaus major-k via use-livecode]

Hi firends,

I am trying to replace "mm2" in a unicode text file with "mm(superscript2)"
but obviously "replace" does not do what I want or I am missing something!?

My effort so far:
...
## Read TXT file and make it LC compatible, this is doing fine:
put url ("binfile:" & tFile) into tData
put textdecode(tData,"UTF-8") into tDataComplete
replace CRLF with CR in tDataComplete

## Superscript 2 in Unicode
put numToCodepoint(0x00B2) into tSup

## But this line does nothing actually?
replace "mm2 " with ("mm" & tSup & " ") in tDataComplete
...

What am I missing or doing wrong?
Any hints appreciated, thank you!


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Re: datagrid in group with backgroundbehavior?

[Klaus major-k via use-livecode]

Hi Richard,

> Am 06.09.2017 um 18:39 schrieb Richard Gaskin via use-livecode 
> :
> 
> Did you also set the backgroundBehavior to true on both the row template 
> group and the DG group?

yes and yes (via msg), but when I want to group the datagrid with one or two 
buttons I get:
Message execution error:
Error description: group: cannot group background or shared groups

I was really hoping for a simple solution so I will stop experimenting right 
here! :-)

> -- 
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> Fourth World Systems
> 
> Klaus Major wrote:
> 
>> Hi Richard,
>>> Am 06.09.2017 um 16:37 schrieb Richard Gaskin via use-livecode 
>>> :
>>> Klaus major wrote:
>>> > I just wanted to display the SAME data in the same datagrid on
>>> > more than one card.
>>> > Just like every (background behavior) group would do.
>>> I you set the sharedText of the fields in the row template does the DG turn 
>>> that off?
>> set the sharedtext of the field in the template to true, but no success.
>> Empty fields and even header (column titles) on a new card.
>> I am a afraid a datagrid is not meant to be in a shared bg group.
>> Did not dive into the DG behavior script however, and actually do not feel 
>> to do so...

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Re: datagrid in group with backgroundbehavior?

[Klaus major-k via use-livecode]

Hi Richard,

> Am 06.09.2017 um 16:37 schrieb Richard Gaskin via use-livecode 
> :
> 
> Klaus major wrote:
> 
> > I just wanted to display the SAME data in the same datagrid on
> > more than one card.
> > Just like every (background behavior) group would do.
> 
> I you set the sharedText of the fields in the row template does the DG turn 
> that off?

set the sharedtext of the field in the template to true, but no success.
Empty fields and even header (column titles) on a new card.

I am a afraid a datagrid is not meant to be in a shared bg group.

Did not dive into the DG behavior script however, and actually do not feel to 
do so...

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> Software Design and Development for the Desktop, Mobile, and the Web
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Re: datagrid in group with backgroundbehavior?

[Klaus major-k via use-livecode]

Hi Craig,

> Am 06.09.2017 um 15:02 schrieb dunbarx via use-livecode 
> :
> 
> Klaus. 
> 
> Not sure what you mean. Is it that you want specific fields (or all of them)
> in a DG to have their sharedText property set to true? 

no, I just wanted to display the SAME data in the same datagrid on more than 
one card.
Just like every (background behavior) group would do.

> You can do this by hand: 
> set the sharedText of fld "col 1 0001" to "true" 

Yes, but I can also forbear this! :-D

> Craig

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datagrid in group with backgroundbehavior?

[Klaus major-k via use-livecode]

Hi friends,

the subject says it all, someone tried and succeeded to put a datagrid 
into a group and place this goup on more than one card?

But since the fields in a datagrid (table) obviously have their "sharedtext"
prop set to false, I doubt this is possible at all. Any hints welcome!

But that would be a nice feature, right? :-)


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