Re: livecode 8 system tray / osx menu bar support

[Maarten Koopmans]

Done.
http://quality.livecode.com/show_bug.cgi?id=17848


Op zondag 12 juni 2016 heeft Monte Goulding  het
volgende geschreven:

> Thanks Maarten. Could you report on quality.livecode.com
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> > On 12 Jun 2016, at 1:00 AM, Maarten Koopmans  > wrote:
> >
> > Report where? I am happy to do so.
>
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Re: livecode 8 system tray / osx menu bar support

[Maarten Koopmans]

Report where? I am happy to do so.

Op zaterdag 11 juni 2016 heeft Monte Goulding  het
volgende geschreven:

> Maarten could you report this. I believe the LC updater uses both of these
> so I'd say it's no longer experimental.
>
> The menu bar widget on Mac is not supported. It would be a helpful feature
> to have I think.
>
> Cheers
>
> Monte
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> > On 11 Jun 2016, at 11:00 PM, Maarten Koopmans <
> maarten.koopm...@gmail.com > wrote:
> >
> > See subject - can I put a Livecode app in the menu bar or system tray.
> From
> > 4.5 onwards there was this hidden feature. I haven't tried, but I'd
> > expected it to be in the docs if it were
>
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livecode 8 system tray / osx menu bar support

[Maarten Koopmans]

Hi,

See subject - can I put a Livecode app in the menu bar or system tray. From
4.5 onwards there was this hidden feature. I haven't tried, but I'd
expected it to be in the docs if it were.

SEE http://downloads.livecode.com/livecode/4_5_0/LiveCodeNotes-4_5_0.pdf
 and search for system tray.

If anyone knows how to do this or has an insight or example to offer, that
would be highly appreciated.

Thanks,

Maarten
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Code signing Mac app store

[Maarten Koopmans]

Hi,

I've been out of the Livecode loop for a while and am just wondering:
what's the guide/tool people use these days when they publish an
application for the Mac or Mac App store?

Thanks!

--Maarten
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Re: iOS/LC5.2.2 UIWebView?

[Maarten Koopmans]

I used and deployed to the App store with 5.5.1 and UIWebView (via
Mobgui). So it did work...

On Tue, Sep 18, 2012 at 4:37 AM, Charles E Buchwald  wrote:
> Hi Rick,
> I just completed an iPad project using scroller controls and a player 
> control. I experimented a bit with the browser control without much luck... I 
> assumed I was missing some important parameter.
> Are you using the "mobileControl..." variations or the mostly decremented 
> "iphoneControl..." stuff?
> Are you testing your stacks in the simulator?
> Or can you post some of your code here? I know I had a couple of misspellings 
> that hung me up for a while
> Cheers,
> - Charles
>
> On 2012-09-17, at 3:50 PM, Rick Harrison  wrote:
>
>> Hi there,
>>
>> Has anyone gotten iOS UIWebView under LC 5.5.2 to work?
>>
>> I've been through the archives and tried the lesson example
>> and even the lesson example doesn't work!
>>
>> Suggestions?
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Rick
>>
>
>
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ZD article on hypercard as well

[Maarten Koopmans]

http://www.zdnet.com/could-the-ios-app-be-the-21st-century-hypercard-stack-702508/

I see a marketing opportunity, especially with Colin's book out as
well (nice one Colin!)

--Maarten

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[Thanks!] Re: [ANN] Livecode iCloud iOS external

[Maarten Koopmans]

A big thank you to my current supporters/customers. Here's to a lively
externals market!

--Maarten

On Monday, August 6, 2012, Maarten Koopmans wrote:

> LOL. I want forced spellchecking *in my fingers*...
>
> On Mon, Aug 6, 2012 at 9:26 PM, Peter M. Brigham 
> >
> wrote:
> > On Aug 6, 2012, at 1:20 PM, Maarten Koopmans wrote:
> >
> >> ...my soellchecker turns out to be broken….
> >
> > Apparently.:-)
> >
> > -- Peter
> >
> > Peter M. Brigham
> > pmb...@gmail.com 
> > http://home.comcast.net/~pmbrig
> >
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Re: iCloud external :-)

[Maarten Koopmans]

 once the LC desktop external interface (and LC desktop) is more
"current" (i.e. Cocoa, entitlement support, ...) : definitely!

--Maarten

On Tuesday, August 7, 2012, Klaus on-rev wrote:

> Am 07.08.2012 um 17:09 schrieb Magicgate Software - Skip Kimpel <
> s...@magicgate.com >:
>
> > What is the possibility of accessing the iCloud files from a LC
> > project running on Windows?
>
> Yep!
>
> What about a desktop version of the external? 8-)
>
> > SKIP
> >
> > On Fri, Aug 3, 2012 at 10:43 AM, Matthias Rebbe
> > > wrote:
> >> Maarten,
> >>
> >> i will definitely buy it.
> >>
> >> Regards,
> >>
> >> Matthias
> >>
> >> Am 03.08.2012 um 13:53 schrieb Maarten Koopmans <
> maarten.koopm...@gmail.com >:
> >>
> >>> Folks,
> >>>
> >>> I have spent a lot of time on it over the last two months, but I
> >>> finally have an iOS iCloud external working. One of the things I've
> >>> learned is that iCloud works (by itself), but it is very easy to make
> >>> a mistake - hence the apps that behave so badly with iCloud.
> >>>
> >>> Anyway, the external can:...
>
>
> Best
>
> Klaus
>
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Re: [ANN] Livecode iCloud iOS external

[Maarten Koopmans]

LOL. I want forced spellchecking *in my fingers*...

On Mon, Aug 6, 2012 at 9:26 PM, Peter M. Brigham  wrote:
> On Aug 6, 2012, at 1:20 PM, Maarten Koopmans wrote:
>
>> ...my soellchecker turns out to be broken….
>
> Apparently.:-)
>
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>
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Re: [ANN] Livecode iCloud iOS external

[Maarten Koopmans]

..updated.

On Mon, Aug 6, 2012 at 7:20 PM, Maarten Koopmans
 wrote:
> Thanks!
>
>  I just learnt that the PDF has a ton of spelling errors. Non-native and
> my soellchecker turns out to be broken.
>
> I'll update the manual soonish. So it'll be a collectors item ;-)
>
> --Maarten
>
> On Sunday, August 5, 2012, Monte Goulding wrote:
>>
>> Well done Maarten!
>>
>> --
>> M E R Goulding
>> Software development services
>>
>> mergExt - There's an external for that!
>>
>> On 05/08/2012, at 11:39 PM, Maarten Koopmans 
>> wrote:
>>
>> > Hi,
>> >
>> > After a weekend of documenting I'm happy to announce the immediate
>> > availability of miCloud - an iCloud external for iOS.
>> >
>> > With it, you can:
>> >
>> > - get your app name, team prefix, bundle identifier
>> > - put files in your app's container
>> > - manipulate and query the apps container
>> > - put files in a shared container across apps - so you have shared
>> > data across iOS apps
>> > - manipulate and query the shared container
>> > - put files in a container or shared container up for download for two
>> > weeks
>> >
>> > Read more: http://maartenkoopmans.com/miCloudManual.pdf
>> >
>> > Introductory price until August 19 is only $49.
>> >
>> > You can get it at http://maartenkoopmans.com/micloud
>> >
>> > Enjoy,
>> >
>> > Maarten
>> >
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Re: [ANN] Livecode iCloud iOS external

[Maarten Koopmans]

Thanks!

 I just learnt that the PDF has a ton of spelling errors. Non-native
and my soellchecker turns out to be broken.

I'll update the manual soonish. So it'll be a collectors item ;-)

--Maarten

On Sunday, August 5, 2012, Monte Goulding wrote:

> Well done Maarten!
>
> --
> M E R Goulding
> Software development services
>
> mergExt - There's an external for that!
>
> On 05/08/2012, at 11:39 PM, Maarten Koopmans 
> >
> wrote:
>
> > Hi,
> >
> > After a weekend of documenting I'm happy to announce the immediate
> > availability of miCloud - an iCloud external for iOS.
> >
> > With it, you can:
> >
> > - get your app name, team prefix, bundle identifier
> > - put files in your app's container
> > - manipulate and query the apps container
> > - put files in a shared container across apps - so you have shared
> > data across iOS apps
> > - manipulate and query the shared container
> > - put files in a container or shared container up for download for two
> weeks
> >
> > Read more: http://maartenkoopmans.com/miCloudManual.pdf
> >
> > Introductory price until August 19 is only $49.
> >
> > You can get it at http://maartenkoopmans.com/micloud
> >
> > Enjoy,
> >
> > Maarten
> >
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[ANN] Livecode iCloud iOS external

[Maarten Koopmans]

Hi,

After a weekend of documenting I'm happy to announce the immediate
availability of miCloud - an iCloud external for iOS.

With it, you can:

- get your app name, team prefix, bundle identifier
- put files in your app's container
- manipulate and query the apps container
- put files in a shared container across apps - so you have shared
data across iOS apps
- manipulate and query the shared container
- put files in a container or shared container up for download for two weeks

Read more: http://maartenkoopmans.com/miCloudManual.pdf

Introductory price until August 19 is only $49.

You can get it at http://maartenkoopmans.com/micloud

Enjoy,

Maarten

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Re: iCloud external :-)

[Maarten Koopmans]

Hi Willem,

Files from iCLoud are downloaded automagically. You just list the
contents of the ubiquitous container, look at the dates or names and
open whatever you want. That's the beauty of it: you just put the data
there, and it automatically updates all devices.

Of course, beware of versioning conflicts. But this is where Livecode
(with its excellent text processing) excels.

--Maarten

On Fri, Aug 3, 2012 at 3:31 PM, William de Smet  wrote:
> Hi Maarten,
>
> This seem pretty straight forward.
> I reckon you can get a file from iCloud as well?
>
> groeten,
>
> William
>
>
> 2012/8/3 Maarten Koopmans :
>> Hi Willem,
>>
>> Screenshots with iCLoud are next-to-near impossible, but here's some
>> code from handlers in my demo/test stack.
>>
>> First, getting some basic information:
>>
>> on mouseUp
>>answer "Trying to fetch basic app/team info, and so some setup"
>>put setupUbiquityDocumentsFolder() into tSetup
>>answer "Setting up ubiquity document url succeeded: " & tSetup
>>put getApplicationIdentifier() into tAppID
>>answer "App ID: " & tAppID
>>put getAppName() into tAppName
>>answer "App Name: " & tAppName
>>put getTeamPrefix() into tTeamPrefix
>>answer "Team prefix: " & tTeamPrefix
>>answer "Containerized name: " & containerize("my.com.SharedStorage")
>> end mouseUp
>>
>> Next, publishing a file publicly via iCloud:
>>
>> on mouseUp
>>answer "In as public file handler"
>>set the defaultFolder to specialFolderPath("documents")
>>answer "default folder set"
>>put "HelloCloudPublic.txt" into tLocalFilePath
>>open file tLocalFilePath for write
>>write "Hello iCloud!" to file tLocalFilePath
>>close file tLocalFilePath
>>answer tLocalFilePath
>>--Note that here we effectively use the FULL path... Different from
>> setUbiquitous
>>put asPublicCloudFile(tLocalFilePath) into tSharedURL
>>answer "Your public iCloud URL for the next two weeks is: " & tSharedURL
>>revMail "y...@who.net","","miCloud link",tSharedURL
>> end mouseUp
>>
>> And "the killer" - publishing a file in a shared storage container
>> (shared with other apps):
>>
>> on mouseUp
>>answer "In make ubiquitous (1) handler"
>>set the defaultFolder to specialFolderPath("documents")
>>get setupUbiquityDocumentsFolder()
>>answer "default folder set, setup succeeded = " & it
>>put "HelloCloudUbiqOrLocal.txt" into tLocalFilePath
>>answer "Local file url: " & getLocalFileURL(tLocalFilePath)
>>open file tLocalFilePath for write
>>write "Hello iCloud!" to file tLocalFilePath
>>close file tLocalFilePath
>>--This is needed because our routines magically create the correct file 
>> path.
>>--Whereas LC on opening the file puts the full path into 
>> tLocalFilePath
>>put "HelloCloudUbiqOrLocal.txt" into tLocalFilePath
>>--Check, check, double check
>>answer tLocalFilePath
>>--test and show that the file is local
>>answer "File is local: " &  isLocal(tLocalFilePath)
>>-- get its file url
>>put getFileURL(tLocalFilepath) into tFileURL
>>answer "Local file URL = " & tFileURL
>>--make the file ubiquitous, 1= true, rest = false
>>get setUbiquitousForFile(1,tLocalFilePath)
>>answer "Set ubiquitous, done"
>>--test to see if it is local or ubiquitous (really, the result
>> coming back from iCloud in setUbiquitous is less trustworthy)--test to
>> see if it is local
>>answer "File is local: " &  isLocal(tLocalFilePath)
>>--test to see if it is ubiquitous
>>answer "File is ubquitous: " &  isUbiquitousDocument(tLocalFilePath)
>>--get the file url, again (should be ubiquitous now...)
>>put getFIleURL(tLocalFilepath) into tFileURL
>>answer "Now... Ubiquitous file URL = " & tFileURL
>>--get the modification date
>>answer "modification data = " & getModificationDateForURL(tFileURL)
>>--list the documents container contents
>>answer getContentsOfUbiquityDocumentsFolder()
>>--delete the ubiquitous document instance
>>get setUbiquitousForFileInContainer(0,tLocalFileP

Re: iCloud external :-)

[Maarten Koopmans]

Hi Willem,

Screenshots with iCLoud are next-to-near impossible, but here's some
code from handlers in my demo/test stack.

First, getting some basic information:

on mouseUp
   answer "Trying to fetch basic app/team info, and so some setup"
   put setupUbiquityDocumentsFolder() into tSetup
   answer "Setting up ubiquity document url succeeded: " & tSetup
   put getApplicationIdentifier() into tAppID
   answer "App ID: " & tAppID
   put getAppName() into tAppName
   answer "App Name: " & tAppName
   put getTeamPrefix() into tTeamPrefix
   answer "Team prefix: " & tTeamPrefix
   answer "Containerized name: " & containerize("my.com.SharedStorage")
end mouseUp

Next, publishing a file publicly via iCloud:

on mouseUp
   answer "In as public file handler"
   set the defaultFolder to specialFolderPath("documents")
   answer "default folder set"
   put "HelloCloudPublic.txt" into tLocalFilePath
   open file tLocalFilePath for write
   write "Hello iCloud!" to file tLocalFilePath
   close file tLocalFilePath
   answer tLocalFilePath
   --Note that here we effectively use the FULL path... Different from
setUbiquitous
   put asPublicCloudFile(tLocalFilePath) into tSharedURL
   answer "Your public iCloud URL for the next two weeks is: " & tSharedURL
   revMail "y...@who.net","","miCloud link",tSharedURL
end mouseUp

And "the killer" - publishing a file in a shared storage container
(shared with other apps):

on mouseUp
   answer "In make ubiquitous (1) handler"
   set the defaultFolder to specialFolderPath("documents")
   get setupUbiquityDocumentsFolder()
   answer "default folder set, setup succeeded = " & it
   put "HelloCloudUbiqOrLocal.txt" into tLocalFilePath
   answer "Local file url: " & getLocalFileURL(tLocalFilePath)
   open file tLocalFilePath for write
   write "Hello iCloud!" to file tLocalFilePath
   close file tLocalFilePath
   --This is needed because our routines magically create the correct file path.
   --Whereas LC on opening the file puts the full path into tLocalFilePath
   put "HelloCloudUbiqOrLocal.txt" into tLocalFilePath
   --Check, check, double check
   answer tLocalFilePath
   --test and show that the file is local
   answer "File is local: " &  isLocal(tLocalFilePath)
   -- get its file url
   put getFileURL(tLocalFilepath) into tFileURL
   answer "Local file URL = " & tFileURL
   --make the file ubiquitous, 1= true, rest = false
   get setUbiquitousForFile(1,tLocalFilePath)
   answer "Set ubiquitous, done"
   --test to see if it is local or ubiquitous (really, the result
coming back from iCloud in setUbiquitous is less trustworthy)--test to
see if it is local
   answer "File is local: " &  isLocal(tLocalFilePath)
   --test to see if it is ubiquitous
   answer "File is ubquitous: " &  isUbiquitousDocument(tLocalFilePath)
   --get the file url, again (should be ubiquitous now...)
   put getFIleURL(tLocalFilepath) into tFileURL
   answer "Now... Ubiquitous file URL = " & tFileURL
   --get the modification date
   answer "modification data = " & getModificationDateForURL(tFileURL)
   --list the documents container contents
   answer getContentsOfUbiquityDocumentsFolder()
   --delete the ubiquitous document instance
   get setUbiquitousForFileInContainer(0,tLocalFilePath,tContainer)
   answer "Remove ubiquitous, done"
   --at this point the file is only local...
end mouseUp

Doe this wet your appetite(s)?

Cheers,

Maarten

On Fri, Aug 3, 2012 at 2:31 PM, William de Smet  wrote:
> Hi Maarten,
>
> I am very much interested in this Cloud external.
> Do you have any information and screenshots online already?
>
> groeten,
>
> William
>
>
> 2012/8/3 Maarten Koopmans :
>> Folks,
>>
>> I have spent a lot of time on it over the last two months, but I
>> finally have an iOS iCloud external working. One of the things I've
>> learned is that iCloud works (by itself), but it is very easy to make
>> a mistake - hence the apps that behave so badly with iCloud.
>>
>> Anyway, the external can:
>>
>> - give back your app name, team prefix, bundle identifier
>> - put files in your app's container
>> - manipulate and query the apps container (evict files, force
>> download, modification dates, list files...)
>> - put files in a shared container across apps - so you have shared
>> data across iOS apps [ yes ... that's right!!!]
>> - manipulate and query the shared container
>> - put files in a container or shared container up for download for two
>> weeks

iCloud external :-)

[Maarten Koopmans]

Folks,

I have spent a lot of time on it over the last two months, but I
finally have an iOS iCloud external working. One of the things I've
learned is that iCloud works (by itself), but it is very easy to make
a mistake - hence the apps that behave so badly with iCloud.

Anyway, the external can:

- give back your app name, team prefix, bundle identifier
- put files in your app's container
- manipulate and query the apps container (evict files, force
download, modification dates, list files...)
- put files in a shared container across apps - so you have shared
data across iOS apps [ yes ... that's right!!!]
- manipulate and query the shared container
- put files in a container or shared container up for download for two
weeks [ yes, you read this correctly as well]

I can do two things:
1) continue with my main project as I will eventually
2) spend even more time and put the external up for sale for $49

As this really has been a LOT of work I don't want to put something up
for sale if nobody is interested, so consider this a poll. Personally,
I find the shared storage across apps and public data publishing is
pretty awesome.

Let me know if you're interested - otherwise I'll simply enjoy my weekend ;-)

--Maarten

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Re: revCopyFile

[Maarten Koopmans]

I scripted this using the read as binary etc. using 16KB buffers some time
ago in pure LC. Much faster, and cross-platform.  Idon'thave the code here
at hand, but it is really straightforward:

Open the source file for read binary
Open the destination file for write binary
Read 16KB or whatever is left if it's less from the source into a buffer
Append the buffer to the destination
Loop until done
Close the files

Faster then revCopyFile (in fact, why doesn't itdo it this way) and no
hassle with shells or external processes where you need to check if they
actually did what you asked.

HTH, Maarten

On Thursday, March 22, 2012, Pete  wrote:
> Hi Geoff,
> Thanks for the speed test info.  I'm not very familiar with shell commands
> so maybe you could let me know the command to use? What I need to do is
> copy a file to a different folder with a different file name.
>
> The lack of a progress bar might be a problem, but if the speed
differences
> are as much as you found, there may not be a need for a progress bar at
all.
>
> Also, I assume the shell commands would be different on Windows and Mac.
>  That's an inconvenience because it means extra coding, but not a show
> stopper.
>
> Thanks,
> Pete
>
> On Wed, Mar 21, 2012 at 11:25 PM, Geoff Canyon  wrote:
>
>> The advantages derive from the fact that LiveCode isn't doing the actual
>> copying with revCopyFile -- the Finder is. For completeness, the same
>> advantage applies to using a shell command. You don't get a progress
dialog
>> though.
>>
>> Okay, I just did a quick one-off test with interface sounds off. For
thirty
>> files that were each about 70kb, using a shell command was about 3x
faster
>> than using revCopyFile. That's without taking advantage of the ability to
>> move and rename in one step with a shell command. If that's what you're
>> doing, the advantage would be even greater.
>>
>> On Wed, Mar 21, 2012 at 3:04 PM, Pete  wrote:
>>
>> > Thanks all for the input.  Sounds like Stephen's approach is the only
way
>> > to get rid of it.  Seems like that setting will apply to other sounds
as
>> > well, but I'm OK with that.
>> >
>> > As far as using AppleScript, I'm using revCopyFile because the
dictionary
>> > claims there are "certain advantages" to using it over "put URL" or any
>> > other method, amongst which is that it does not require reading the
file
>> > into memory, and since some of these files could be pretty large,
that's
>> > significant.  On a Mac, it also displays a progress bar which I don;t
>> think
>> > would be possible if I used "put URL".
>> >
>> > Pete
>> >
>> > On Wed, Mar 21, 2012 at 11:35 AM, Geoff Canyon 
>> wrote:
>> >
>> > > I went straight to the shell command, so I don't know for sure, but
>> this
>> > > sounds reasonable. There's also the overhead of spinning up
AppleScript
>> > in
>> > > the first place. If Apple is doing that badly, that might also cause
>> > > problems I suppose.
>> > >
>> > > On Wed, Mar 21, 2012 at 1:24 PM, stephen barncard <
>> > > stephenrevoluti...@barncard.com> wrote:
>> > >
>> > > > That was probably a big reason why multiple file transfers would
take
>> > > more
>> > > > time - loading and unloading the sound - and perhaps the reason why
>> it
>> > > > failed after memory was exceeded.
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Re: Base64 weirdness

[Maarten Koopmans]

Relacing crlf in lc and using adifferet scala lib on the other end solved
this. Thanks for all of your help.

On Monday, October 31, 2011, Maarten Koopmans 
wrote:
> Still struggling, I'll try,
>
> @Mark: I'm on a mac
>
> On Saturday, October 29, 2011, Richard Gaskin 
wrote:
>> Maarten Koopmans wrote:
>>>
>>> You're right, but i've found that other languages don't ignore them,
>>> whether they are c-based string wrapped scripting languages or compile
to
>>> the JVM for instance.
>>>
>>> I think LC follows the RFC better, but not necessarily better
interoprable.
>>> Anuway, another recent thread turned out to have a solution - copy 72
>>> chars, skip 1, loop
>>
>> Since white space is independent of data in base64, would this serve the
same purpose?:
>>
>>  replace crlf with cr in tBase64Data
>>
>>
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Sending image plus parameters on ios

[Maarten Koopmans]

. Can I just do that with post and All Will Be Well? Or any special
precautions (I started base64 encoding, but wonder if it is necessary)

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Re: Base64 weirdness

[Maarten Koopmans]

Still struggling, I'll try,

@Mark: I'm on a mac

On Saturday, October 29, 2011, Richard Gaskin 
wrote:
> Maarten Koopmans wrote:
>>
>> You're right, but i've found that other languages don't ignore them,
>> whether they are c-based string wrapped scripting languages or compile to
>> the JVM for instance.
>>
>> I think LC follows the RFC better, but not necessarily better
interoprable.
>> Anuway, another recent thread turned out to have a solution - copy 72
>> chars, skip 1, loop
>
> Since white space is independent of data in base64, would this serve the
same purpose?:
>
>  replace crlf with cr in tBase64Data
>
>
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Re: Base64 weirdness

[Maarten Koopmans]

There was a thread on that, that seems to do the trick...

https://mail.google.com/mail/?shva=1#search/label%3Ause-lc+base64/13250dfc8da329ef

On Sat, Oct 29, 2011 at 6:55 PM, Maarten Koopmans
 wrote:
>
>
> On Saturday, October 29, 2011, Richard Gaskin 
> wrote:
>> Maarten Koopmans wrote:
>>>
>>> You're right, but i've found that other languages don't ignore them,
>>> whether they are c-based string wrapped scripting languages or compile to
>>> the JVM for instance.
>>>
>>> I think LC follows the RFC better, but not necessarily better
>>> interoprable.
>>> Anuway, another recent thread turned out to have a solution - copy 72
>>> chars, skip 1, loop
>>
>> Since white space is independent of data in base64, would this serve the
>> same purpose?:
>>
>>  replace crlf with cr in tBase64Data
>>
>
> I'll try and report back, thanks

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Re: Base64 weirdness

[Maarten Koopmans]

On Saturday, October 29, 2011, Richard Gaskin 
wrote:
> Maarten Koopmans wrote:
>>
>> You're right, but i've found that other languages don't ignore them,
>> whether they are c-based string wrapped scripting languages or compile to
>> the JVM for instance.
>>
>> I think LC follows the RFC better, but not necessarily better
interoprable.
>> Anuway, another recent thread turned out to have a solution - copy 72
>> chars, skip 1, loop
>
> Since white space is independent of data in base64, would this serve the
same purpose?:
>
>  replace crlf with cr in tBase64Data
>

I'll try and report back, thanks
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Re: Base64 weirdness

[Maarten Koopmans]

You're right, but i've found that other languages don't ignore them,
whether they are c-based string wrapped scripting languages or compile to
the JVM for instance.

I think LC follows the RFC better, but not necessarily better interoprable.
Anuway, another recent thread turned out to have a solution - copy 72
chars, skip 1, loop


--Maarten

On Saturday, October 29, 2011, Richard Gaskin 
wrote:
> Maarten Koopmans wrote:
>
>> Sorry for the cross-post from the forum, but this (silly) thing is
>> becoming a blocker.
>>
>> A (to me) subtle question, which has to do with the base64 encoding. A
>> base 64 encoded binary needs to be a multiple of 4. It' what all other
>> implementation seem to do as well (tested Scala (JVM) and REBOL (C
>> underneath)).
>>
>> But if I test with a standalone file like this:
>>
>> put "/Users/maartenkoopmans/Desktop/pw.jpg" into tFilename
>> put base64encode(url("binfile:" & tFilename)) into tImage
>> answer "file read and converted"
>> answer the length of tImage
>>
>> I consistently get 7758 as length in Livecode, and 7652 in other
>> implementaions (REBOL, Scala). The LC form has two bytes to much to be
>> multiple of 4, and way more than the others, which are multiples of
>> fours. So how do you get your data back then to display the image in a
>> different environment (say, as webserver)?
>>
>> Any thoughts appreciated...
>
> What others wrote about line endings is likely the explanation.
>
> But since base64 implementation should ignore line endings, how is this a
blocker for you?  What software is not unencoding those correctly?
>
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Base64 weirdness

[Maarten Koopmans]

Sorry for the cross-post from the forum, but this (silly) thing is
becoming a blocker.

A (to me) subtle question, which has to do with the base64 encoding. A
base 64 encoded binary needs to be a multiple of 4. It' what all other
implementation seem to do as well (tested Scala (JVM) and REBOL (C
underneath)).

But if I test with a standalone file like this:

put "/Users/maartenkoopmans/Desktop/pw.jpg" into tFilename
put base64encode(url("binfile:" & tFilename)) into tImage
answer "file read and converted"
answer the length of tImage

I consistently get 7758 as length in Livecode, and 7652 in other
implementaions (REBOL, Scala). The LC form has two bytes to much to be
multiple of 4, and way more than the others, which are multiples of
fours. So how do you get your data back then to display the image in a
different environment (say, as webserver)?

Any thoughts appreciated...

--Maarten

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Re: [OT] John McCarthy has Died...

[Maarten Koopmans]

We need to make new heroes.

On Tue, Oct 25, 2011 at 1:21 PM, Andre Garzia  wrote:
> On Tue, Oct 25, 2011 at 6:57 AM, René Micout 
> wrote:
>
>> Goodbye John...
>> For you it is omega pruning...
>> :-(
>>
>
> Can we say it is a closure
>
>
>
>>
>> Le 25 oct. 2011 à 01:32, Andre Garzia a écrit :
>>
>> > Folks,
>> >
>> > All my heroes are dieing. Steve Jobs and Dennis Ritchie passed away, now
>> > John McCarthy has passed away as well... ARGH
>> >
>> > (GOODBYE '(JOHN MCCARTHY))
>> >
>> > :-(
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upload binary from ios with image data

[Maarten Koopmans]

Hi,

I saw a post on the forums for photos only... has anybody ever:
- take a picture
- added some parameters (like its name or so)

and used post on iOS to get it to the webserver. If so, how?

Any clues greatly appreciated!

--Maarten

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Re: Making Sense of Licenses

[Maarten Koopmans]

...precisely why I renewed, because upgrade fees per component are not too
much compared with a new license. But, I have the dev program too, so far
worth the money, especially if you're doing mobile.

LC has a much more agressive release cycle these dats, with smaller
improvement coming faster in dot or dot-dot releases.

Personally, I kept my licenses up to date because it was not too expensive,
especially with the recently more agile release cycle. And FWIW: RunRev does
pay attention to the needs (e.g.  enhancements) of those opting in for the
dev program.

All in all, the last 6 months have been a pleasant experience - I think you
can see commitment from Heather's reactions as well.

--Maarten

On Thursday, October 20, 2011, Pete  wrote:
> Thanks Mark.  As you say, can't predict the future but good to know what
the
> current situation is, I guess the question should really be addressed to
> Heather.
>
> Pete
> Molly's Revenge 
>
>
>
>
> On Thu, Oct 20, 2011 at 10:01 AM, Mark Schonewille <
> m.schonewi...@economy-x-talk.com> wrote:
>
>> Hi Pete,
>>
>> You never know what future brings, but I believe you'd pay for a new
>> license instead of a renewal. If you wait yet another year, you'd still
pay
>> the same price for 7.0, which means you get all 6.0 features for free,
just
>> like any new customer.
>>
>> In my case, I'd pay for 5.0 after having waited a long time and in the
long
>> term I'm not paying more than otherwise but I won't get anything for free
>> either, because the previous big update was the 4.6 cycle, which I didn't
>> buy, and I'd just have to pay a little more for 5.0 (I hope you can
follow
>> what I'm saying).
>>
>> However, I'm not going to buy the full package. I'm only going to pay for
>> the components I really need and next year I will only update those
>> components that I really need. This way, I expect to pay roughly 250 or
300
>> euro per year instead of 500 for the subscription deal.
>>
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>>
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>>
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>> Twitter: http://twitter.com/xtalkprogrammer
>> KvK: 50277553
>>
>> See what you get with only a small contribution. All our LiveCode
downloads
>> are listed at http://qery.us/zr
>>
>> On 20 okt 2011, at 18:36, Pete wrote:
>>
>> > I'm curious as to what happens if you do this.  If I opt to not get my
>> > 5.0 upgrade, then when 6.0 comes out decide I want it, do I have to pay
>> the
>> > 6.0 upgrade fee AND the 5.0 upgrade fee?  I would guess yes otherwise
I'd
>> be
>> > getting the 5.0 fixes and enhancements for free.
>> > Pete
>> > Molly's Revenge 
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Re: iOS video grabbing external

[Maarten Koopmans]

Well, I guess that means nobody is interested :(

On Wednesday, October 19, 2011, Maarten Koopmans 
wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Has anybody made a "grab video external" for iOS, and if so, could you
> contact me off-list on sharing/pricing? I saw that I can take
> pictures, but sometines short movies are very cool as well.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Maarten
>
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iOS video grabbing external

[Maarten Koopmans]

Hi,

Has anybody made a "grab video external" for iOS, and if so, could you
contact me off-list on sharing/pricing? I saw that I can take
pictures, but sometines short movies are very cool as well.

Cheers,

Maarten

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Re: [ANN] minimal facebook library available

[Maarten Koopmans]

How much do you need, and what will you build for that?
And what do we need to raise to make the end result BSD licensed once
its feature-complete?

--Maarten
PS:great work!

On Tue, Oct 11, 2011 at 5:27 AM, Andre Garzia  wrote:
> Folks,
>
> Thanks to those that contributed with my little fundraising campaign, I am
> now able to release a minimal facebook library. There is still much work to
> be done and I don't plan to stop it.
>
> You can learn more about my Social Network Library Suite here:
> http://andregarzia.com/page/socialsuite
>
> You can browse the mercurial repository here:
> http://hg.andregarzia.com/livecode-socialsuite
>
> I am still raising funds for this suite, so, don't loose your chance to
> contribute.
>
> WHAT IS AVAILABLE:
>
> * lib.aag.json.livecode - a minimal JSON library. BSD License.
> * lib.aag.facebook.livecode - a simple low level facebook library.
> * examples/facebook/simpleposter.livecode - a sample stack that posts to a
> user wall.
>
> Remember this library is GPL licensed. You can only build FREE, OPEN SOURCE
> software with it. If you want a commercial version, then, you'd better join
> the fundraising.
>
> So guys, can you please test?
>
> By the way, you will need to register your application on
> http://developer.facebook.com. After registering, you will need to pick your
> application id and application secret and fill the setup card on the example
> stack. I am not sharing my application id and secret with you.
>
> Cheers
> andre
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Re: iPhone’s ‘Maps’ application

[Maarten Koopmans]

I'd be interested too. Could you add pins to those maps as well?

On Wed, Oct 12, 2011 at 1:13 AM, John Dixon  wrote:
>
>
> This from the liveCode website...
>
> http://www.runrev.com/products/mobile-deployment/iphone-ipad/supported-features/
>
> We’ve added support for launching URLs, which as well as allowing HTTP
> links to open in Safari, will also allow phone calls to be placed using
> the ‘tel:’ prefix, and also links to open a location in the iPhone’s
> ‘Maps’ application.'
>
> Anyone know how to open a location in the iPhone 'Maps' application ? I am 
> able to use the UIWebView to display an manipulate 'google' maps, but don't 
> have a clue how to go about accessing the iPhone’s
> ‘Maps’ application in liveCode...
>
> Anyone ?
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Google maps with custom markers while moving

[Maarten Koopmans]

Hi,

Cross-post from forum, but kind of urgent, sorry
Any idea how to achieve this? Some toolkits have a MapView, but I am
clueless on how to do this with LC for iOS.

Any thoughts greatly appreciated!

Cheers, Maarten

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Mapview, gps, markers

[Maarten Koopmans]

Hi,

With the location events and all on iOS, do we have a way of showing where
we are, and add some "pins" (with text, and remove them).

I couldn't find it, does anybody have a workaround?

Best regards, Maarten
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Re: How are folks handling iOS resolution differences?

[Maarten Koopmans]

On Tue, Sep 27, 2011 at 3:41 AM, Chipp Walters  wrote:
> I can think of a couple ways to manage developing for iPhone 3 vs 4, but am
> wondering how others are handling it?
>
> I suppose on startup one could auto-size and set the properties of all
> labels, fonts, images, grcs based upon the screen size.

I wouldn't do that...

>
> Or.
>
> Have two different stacks, one for iPhone 3, the other for iPhone 4, and
> move all control scripts to libraries.

Or

>
> Are there other approaches? Does it make sense for a custom control set that
> just 'knows' how to resize based on stack size? I'd appreciate any one
> else's ideas on the subject. Thanks :-)

If you can get by with MobGui I think it autoscales on Retina devices,
but haven't tried that. Easy enough though - create a 320x480 stack
and run. Otherwise, two different stacks. Might as well add an iPad
stack and you have a universal binary for iOS.

--Maarten

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Re: Scaling to device for Android

[Maarten Koopmans]

I think we are on the same page, it's just that *I* have to do the work...
But the end  result is probably better.

On Tuesday, September 13, 2011, Richard Gaskin 
wrote:
> I think we're on the same page:  the "logic" in a logical view is in your
resizeStack handler.
>
> If I misunderstand please feel free to elaborate.
>
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> Maarten Koopmans wrote:
>
>> Not sure I agree. If you work with a logical view you don't need to
>> scale at all by default; you can then override it as you see fit
>>
>> On Mon, Sep 12, 2011 at 4:06 PM, Richard Gaskin
>>  wrote:
>>>
>>> Maarten Koopmans wrote:
>>>
>>>> Subject says it all: does anyone have a clue or a sample handler that
>>>> they know off? This is a real nuisance otherwise :(
>>>
>>> There's a request in the RQCC for generalized scaling:
>>> <http://quality.runrev.com/show_bug.cgi?id=6589>
>>>
>>> Useful as it is for things like some games, anything with controls on it
>>> will require the developer to write a resizeStack handler to position
things
>>> appropriately for both the current device and the current orientation.
>>>
>>> Now that I have a great tablet with the Asus Transformer, it drives me
crazy
>>> to download apps only to find that they merely scale their display for
>>> tablets, rather than take full advantage of the larger form factor with
a
>>> unique layout optimized for it.  I don't need 5" wide buttons, I need
more
>>> of a view on the content. ;)
>>>
>>> And with orientation, if an app only works in one orientation on my
tablet I
>>> generally uninstall it immediately after I discover that.   I like both
>>> portrait and landscape orientations for different purposes, and if an
app
>>> doesn't adapt to me I'm not going to adapt to the app - simpler just to
>>> uninstall and find one that was crafted more earnestly.
>>>
>>> With LiveCode we have the resizeStack message, sent when the app opens
and
>>> whenever the device orientation changes.  We can use the screenrect to
>>> intelligently reposition things to provide an optimal experience on any
>>> device.
>>>
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Re: Scaling to device for Android

[Maarten Koopmans]

Not sure I agree. If you work with a logical view you don't need to
scale at all by default; you can then override it as you see fit

On Mon, Sep 12, 2011 at 4:06 PM, Richard Gaskin
 wrote:
> Maarten Koopmans wrote:
>
>> Subject says it all: does anyone have a clue or a sample handler that
>> they know off? This is a real nuisance otherwise :(
>
> There's a request in the RQCC for generalized scaling:
> <http://quality.runrev.com/show_bug.cgi?id=6589>
>
> Useful as it is for things like some games, anything with controls on it
> will require the developer to write a resizeStack handler to position things
> appropriately for both the current device and the current orientation.
>
> Now that I have a great tablet with the Asus Transformer, it drives me crazy
> to download apps only to find that they merely scale their display for
> tablets, rather than take full advantage of the larger form factor with a
> unique layout optimized for it.  I don't need 5" wide buttons, I need more
> of a view on the content. ;)
>
> And with orientation, if an app only works in one orientation on my tablet I
> generally uninstall it immediately after I discover that.   I like both
> portrait and landscape orientations for different purposes, and if an app
> doesn't adapt to me I'm not going to adapt to the app - simpler just to
> uninstall and find one that was crafted more earnestly.
>
> With LiveCode we have the resizeStack message, sent when the app opens and
> whenever the device orientation changes.  We can use the screenrect to
> intelligently reposition things to provide an optimal experience on any
> device.
>
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Scaling to device for Android

[Maarten Koopmans]

Hi,

Subject says it all: does anyone have a clue or a sample handler that
they know off? This is a real nuisance otherwise :(

--Maarten

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Re: Launch URL on Android

[Maarten Koopmans]

Tested a lot, AFAIK this simply doesn't work. Buh 9713 - cast your
votes if you have them :-)

On Mon, Sep 5, 2011 at 7:45 PM, Maarten Koopmans
 wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I am trying to use launch url file:docs/test.pdf or docs:/test.doc -
> they are included in "Copy Files".
>
> put specialFolderPath("engine") & "/" & fileToLoad into loadingURL
> put "file:" before loadingURL
> replace " " with "%20" in LoadingURL
>
> Results in a popup for me to open it with … Internet (or Opera)? Has
> anybody a clue how to view a file on Android?
>
> Any feedback (or sample "Hello World" stack that views a file on
> Android) would be greatly appreciated.
>
> --Maarten
>

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Launch URL on Android

[Maarten Koopmans]

Hi,

I am trying to use launch url file:docs/test.pdf or docs:/test.doc -
they are included in "Copy Files".

put specialFolderPath("engine") & "/" & fileToLoad into loadingURL
put "file:" before loadingURL
replace " " with "%20" in LoadingURL

Results in a popup for me to open it with … Internet (or Opera)? Has
anybody a clue how to view a file on Android?

Any feedback (or sample "Hello World" stack that views a file on
Android) would be greatly appreciated.

--Maarten

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Re: TextLib.rev

[Maarten Koopmans]

Thanks!

On Tuesday, August 30, 2011, Yves COPPE  wrote:
> Hello Peter
>
> Thank you very much for this very useful library
>
>
> Le 30 août 2011 à 00:19, Peter M. Brigham, MD a écrit :
>
>> I collected some of my utilities into a library that I want to make
available to anyone who could use such a thing. They are mostly text
processing routines, since my LC work mostly involves heavy text crunching
and parsing. Here is a list of handlers:
>>
>> commandKeyDown -- ctrl-cmd-v pastes plain text (matching formatting of
target field)
>> controlKeyDown -- in any field, ctrl-d inserts the date; ctrl-/ swaps
interchanged letters
>> mouseup -- lock and unlock fields with a mouseclick
>> doAge() -- returns the age given a birthdate and an optional "asOf" date
>> getLastLine() -- returns the line number of the last occurrence of a
string in a container
>> howMany() -- returns the number of occurrences of a string in a container
>> isAfter() -- true if the given date is after the reference date
>> isLower() -- true if a character is a lowercase letter, otherwise false
>> isUpper() -- true if a character is an uppercase letter, otherwise false
>> itemOffsets() -- returns all the itemoffsets of a string in a container
>> lastThing() -- returns the last item of a string, given an itemdelimeter
>> lineOffsets() -- returns all the lineoffsets of a string in a container
>> mergeLists() -- merge 2 lists without duplicates or empty lines/items
>> noDupes() -- remove duplicate lines/items from a list
>> offsets() -- returns all the offsets of a string in a container
>> popChoose() -- one-line popup choice command (requires a button,
included)
>> q() -- returns the submitted string, in quotes
>> returns() -- returns a string of n cr's
>> rRandom() -- a more random random number generator
>> spaces() -- returns a string of n spaces
>> sq() -- returns the submitted string, in single quotes
>> sws() -- strip white space from start & end of a string
>> tabs() -- returns a string of n tabs
>> toTitleCase() -- returns the string in title case ("The Mutiny on the
Bounty")
>> truncate() -- truncate a string to no more than n chars, followed by "…"
(ellipsis)
>> wordOffsets() -- returns all the wordoffsets of a string in a container
>> setprop writable -- a virtual field property to lock/unlock a field
>> getprop writable -- a virtual field property to lock/unlock a field
>>
>> Available at:
>> (mac) http://db.tt/qpGsGak
>> (win) http://db.tt/uBQlc24
>>
>> -- Peter
>>
>> Peter M. Brigham
>> pmb...@gmail.com
>> http://home.comcast.net/~pmbrig
>>
>>
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> Greetings.
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Re: [OT] Mediocre Britain

[Maarten Koopmans]

On Sunday, August 28, 2011, Petrides, M.D. Marian 
wrote:
> Hmmm... sounds suspiciously like "No Child Left Behind" here in the
States. The sad thing on our side of the pond is that NCLB worked so well
(NOT!) that they have decided to apply its principles to graduate medical
education.  The scary thing is that we Boomers will be the recipients of
this wonderful brand of medical care. <--- (dripping with sarcasm, if you
couldn't already tell)


Otoh, you get the results of the regulations your generation made ;-)


>
>
> On Aug 28, 2011, at 11:46 AM, Richmond Mathewson wrote:
>
>> http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-14683133
>>
>> doesn't frankly surprise me; after all "Being British" is all about
dumbing
>> down things to the lowest common denominator; education, over-regulation
(after all, if 5% of the population are morons the government must screw up
everybody's life by regulating things to protect the morons from themselves:
maybe the morons should be told "you are morons, get off your fat,
supplementary-benefit-fed bottoms and start getting your brains working).
>>
>> I have just been looking at a series of letters written to my younger son
from his erstwhile school mates at his school in Fife, Scotland; filled with
basic spelling errors and grammar problems (these kids were 11 at the time);
most of them being monoglot English speakers, a few spoke Fife-Scots at
home. My sons, who have  English and Bulgarian as mother tongues, and are
both fluent in German, don't make those sort of spelling errors in any of
their 3 dominant languages.
>>
>> If sschool kids cannot spell in their school language how on earth can
one expect them to get their programming syntax right, let alone the odd
nested FOR . . . NEXT loop?
>>
>> My younger son starts at Salem on the 10th; as the highest scholarship
holder:
>>
>> http://www.salem-net.de/
>>
>> I wonder why I'm not sending him to school in Britain?
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Re: SFTP externals

[Maarten Koopmans]

Chipp, what's the toolchain that gets working externals?

Sounds like a good one, btw.

--Maarten

On Monday, August 29, 2011, Josh Mellicker  wrote:
> It would be great if it were able to resume upload or download in the case
that the file had only partially been transferred previously. If you are
using cURL, I believe this is the "-T" switch.
>
> -T is a godsend when transferring larger files over intermittent
connections, since the file does not need to start over at the beginning
whenever there's a glitch in the matrix... just picks up where it left off.
>
>
> On Aug 28, 2011, at 7:55 PM, Chipp Walters  wrote:
>
>> Hey guys. Chris has been working on some cool sftp externals for LC and
>> currently they are working on Mac and PC with iOS and Linux support next.
>>
>> They do the following:
>>
>> Open
>> Close
>> isConnected
>> GetDir
>> MkDir
>> GetRemoteFile (has async progress messages)
>> PutLocalFile ( has async progress messages)
>> DeleteRemoteFile
>>
>> Anything else you can think of that you use in an sftp external?
>> Also, send me an email offlist if you NEED to beta test. Thanks.
>>
>> --
>> Chipp Walters
>> CEO, Shafer Walters Group, Inc.
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Re: iOS UIWebView/MOBGui overlay question

[Maarten Koopmans]

Though the SDKs for LC-iOS externals are currently not as stable(due to
Lion, Xcode), I suspect they will be soon. And then you create a navbar
external or so.

Still Cocoa/Objective-C but a whole lot less; with a bit of luck you can
find your nerdef code in a cookbook or on the web.

--Maarten

On Sunday, August 28, 2011, Ian Wood  wrote:
>
> On 28 Aug 2011, at 11:35, Maarten Koopmans wrote:
>
>> You can't make controls on top of a fullscreen UIWebView. You can make a
>> UIWebView that has limited size and put controls around it. In fact, one
of
>> the mobile examples in the iOS pack is a little web browser that does
just
>> that.
>
> That's what I was afraid of, from previous experience with the desktop web
view. As a fullscreen web view is a necessity for the app I'm planning it's
time for either hacks or learning Cocoa from scratch. :-(
>
> One possible approach is to load everything within my own HTML page in an
iFrame and find out if I can layer a PNG over the sub-page but the problem
then is how to find out when it's been pressed - I can see how to talk to
the page via JavaScript but not how to go in the other direction other than
catching browserLoadRequest with delayRequests set to true but that's going
to stop the sub-page loading in the first place.
>
> Anyone have any bright ideas?
>
> Ian
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Re: iOS UIWebView/MOBGui overlay question

[Maarten Koopmans]

You can't make controls on top of a fullscreen UIWebView. You can make a
UIWebView that has limited size and put controls around it. In fact, one of
the mobile examples in the iOS pack is a little web browser that does just
that.

MobGui is a cleverly designed set of grouped controls for iOS (and from what
I know Android is coming).

Imho, both are well worth the money.

--Maarten

On Saturday, August 27, 2011, Ian Wood  wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> After a long time not being very active on the list I'm gearing up for
some iOS development and have a very specific make-or-break question before
buying the iOS deployment add-on:
>
>
> A card has a UIWebView control on it. Can I have other controls showing in
front of the web area? If I can, is performance/scrolling etc. in the
webview going to suffer badly?
>
>
> Long version - I need to show HTML content fullscreen but still have some
controls shown in front of the webview, preferably with some transparency.
As an example, look at the controls in GoodReader when viewing locally saved
HTML content.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Ian
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Re: Pages, excel etc in UIWebView

[Maarten Koopmans]

Didn't work :(

On Friday, August 26, 2011, Andrew Henshaw  wrote:
> It might be a long shot,  but ive always used three slashes with file: and
its worked fine when loading local javascript content,  ie
 file:///test.pages
>
> Andy
>
> On 26 Aug 2011, at 14:53, Maarten Koopmans wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> I know you can display different file types (see subject) in a
>> UIwebview. So to test it I copy a word, pdf, pages file. Then create a
>> UIWebView with MobGui and set the specialFolderPath and the file url
>> to e.g. "file://test.pages"
>>
>> Nothing happens :(  Anybody figured this out? I tried this tutorial
>>
http://intkeystrokes.posterous.com/viewing-local-file-in-uiwebview-in-ios-with-l
>> but it doesn't do the trick either.
>>
>> Any thoughts or input - as usual- greatly appreciated.
>>
>> Cheers, Maarten
>>
>> Off note: I got the same docs in a web popup working in Corona. So it
>> is possible with my docs and the UIWebView. I suspect I have the path
>> to the bundled files wrong. Or so. Tested on iPhone4 , iOS 4.3.5
>>
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Pages, excel etc in UIWebView

[Maarten Koopmans]

Hi,

I know you can display different file types (see subject) in a
UIwebview. So to test it I copy a word, pdf, pages file. Then create a
UIWebView with MobGui and set the specialFolderPath and the file url
to e.g. "file://test.pages"

Nothing happens :(  Anybody figured this out? I tried this tutorial
http://intkeystrokes.posterous.com/viewing-local-file-in-uiwebview-in-ios-with-l
but it doesn't do the trick either.

Any thoughts or input - as usual- greatly appreciated.

Cheers, Maarten

Off note: I got the same docs in a web popup working in Corona. So it
is possible with my docs and the UIWebView. I suspect I have the path
to the bundled files wrong. Or so. Tested on iPhone4 , iOS 4.3.5

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Re: iOS external won't load

[Maarten Koopmans]

Yes, and I need to write an external because serious networking is defunct;
I hope some fix/feature extension comes or I'll have to switch dev platforms
(ironically, as I just moved to LC).

On Thursday, August 25, 2011, Mark Schonewille <
m.schonewi...@economy-x-talk.com> wrote:
> Hi Maarten,
>
> I've been testing with LC 4.6.3, Mac OS X 10.6.8, XCode 4.0.2, iOS SDK
4.3.3 and LC SDK R7 on an iPhone 3GS.
>
> --
> Best regards,
>
> Mark Schonewille
>
> Economy-x-Talk Consulting and Software Engineering
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>
> On 25 aug 2011, at 04:05, Maarten Koopmans wrote:
>
>> Hi again Mark,
>>
>> Let's see if I can confirm then. What's your LC version, OS version,
XCode
>> version and SDK version (7?).
>>
>> --Maarten
>>
>> On Wednesday, August 24, 2011, Mark Schonewille <
>> m.schonewi...@economy-x-talk.com> wrote:
>>> Hi again, Maarten,
>>>
>>> Yesterday and today, I did a lot of testing with externals. I was able
to
>> compile the sample external rresocket and included this external in a
>> standalone. The standalone was built from the stack included with the
sample
>> XCode project provided by RunRev. When I tested the standalone, it ran
fine
>> in both the simulator and on my iPhone.
>>>
>>> Then I created a very simple hello-world external from the template,
quite
>> similar to yours. The template can be selected after you choose New from
>> XCode's file menu. I followed exactly the same steps as with the sample
>> external. I was able to run it in the simulator but when I installed it
on
>> my iPhone, it crashed with the same console messages you posted.
>>>
>>> For now, my conclusion is that the sample externals run fine, but
>> externals created with the template won't work. I hope that anyone can
>> confirm this.
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Re: iOS external won't load

[Maarten Koopmans]

Confirmed, as bug 9694 in the QCC. Now let's hope somebody does
something with it for 4.6.4

On Thu, Aug 25, 2011 at 4:05 AM, Maarten Koopmans
 wrote:
> Hi again Mark,
>
> Let's see if I can confirm then. What's your LC version, OS version, XCode
> version and SDK version (7?).
>
> --Maarten
>
> On Wednesday, August 24, 2011, Mark Schonewille
>  wrote:
>> Hi again, Maarten,
>>
>> Yesterday and today, I did a lot of testing with externals. I was able to
>> compile the sample external rresocket and included this external in a
>> standalone. The standalone was built from the stack included with the sample
>> XCode project provided by RunRev. When I tested the standalone, it ran fine
>> in both the simulator and on my iPhone.
>>
>> Then I created a very simple hello-world external from the template, quite
>> similar to yours. The template can be selected after you choose New from
>> XCode's file menu. I followed exactly the same steps as with the sample
>> external. I was able to run it in the simulator but when I installed it on
>> my iPhone, it crashed with the same console messages you posted.
>>
>> For now, my conclusion is that the sample externals run fine, but
>> externals created with the template won't work. I hope that anyone can
>> confirm this.
>>
>> --
>> Best regards,
>>
>> Mark Schonewille
>>
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>>
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>>
>> On 24 aug 2011, at 20:41, Maarten Koopmans wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Mark,
>>>
>>> My external name is not all lowercase, I'll try that first. Otherwise
>>> I'll
>>> mail support.
>>>
>>> --Maarten
>>>
>>> On Wednesday, August 24, 2011, Mark Schonewille <
>>> m.schonewi...@economy-x-talk.com> wrote:
>>>> Hi Maarten,
>>>>
>>>> This is a known problem. Please, contact supp...@runrev.com and tell
>>>> them
>>> you're struggling with this problem too.
>>>>
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>>>>
>>>> Mark Schonewille
>>>>
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>>>> On 24 aug 2011, at 19:05, Maarten Koopmans wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>
>>>>> I wrote the simplest external possible for iOS, it builds in Xcode,
>>>>> but crashes for reasons unknown (to me….) on the iPhone. Simulator
>>>>> won't work either. It's so simple, that I'm wondering….. if I can't
>>>>> get this to work….
>>>>>
>>>>> See below, Maarten
>>>>>
>>>>> My IDL looks like this:
>>>>>
>>>>> // The name of the external (note external name must be all lowercase!)
>>>>> external mbkTest
>>>>> use c++-naming
>>>>> use objc-objects
>>>>>
>>>>> function getString
>>>>> return objc-string
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> And here is my code(mbkTest.mm):
>>>>> #include 
>>>>> #include 
>>>>>
>>>>> NSString* getString(void)
>>>>> {
>>>>>   return @"test";
>>>>> }
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Crash log says: unknown iOS External Test[3436] : Startup
>>>>> error: failed to load external
>>
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Re: Android's mobileDeviceInfo

[Maarten Koopmans]

Thanks, but tried that, no result. The "ask" was a slip of the mind while
typing. Can anyone confirm that mobileDeviceInfo doesn't work (best tested
on actual device) before I file a bug report?

--Maarten

On Thursday, August 25, 2011, J. Landman Gay 
wrote:
> On 8/24/11 9:03 PM, Maarten Koopmans wrote:
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> If you look in the Android release notes ( p27) you'll see a function
>> mobileDeviceInfo. I've tested it like this:
>>
>> on mouseUp
>>   ask mobileDeviceInfo("DISPLAY") with "OK"
>> end mouseUp
>>
>> with a simple Android stack and one button. Also tried other fields like
>> HOST (the one I actually need) and ID. Neither the simulator, my Samsung
>> Galaxy S or my HTC Flyer show a dialog. Asking just a static string works
>> fine.
>
> Do you mean "answer"? "Ask" is for getting user input. The way it's
written above, the device info would be shown as the prompt. In either case,
apparently the engine isn't evaluating the function.
>
> If "answer" also doesn't work, try moving the function outside of the
answer command, like this:
>
> put mobileDeviceInfo("DISPLAY") into tDeviceInfo
> answer tDeviceInfo
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Android's mobileDeviceInfo

[Maarten Koopmans]

Hi,

If you look in the Android release notes ( p27) you'll see a function
mobileDeviceInfo. I've tested it like this:

on mouseUp
  ask mobileDeviceInfo("DISPLAY") with "OK"
end mouseUp

with a simple Android stack and one button. Also tried other fields like
HOST (the one I actually need) and ID. Neither the simulator, my Samsung
Galaxy S or my HTC Flyer show a dialog. Asking just a static string works
fine.

Anybody tried this (LC 4.6.3)

Any feedback greatly appreciated!

--Maarten
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Re: iOS external won't load

[Maarten Koopmans]

Hi again Mark,

Let's see if I can confirm then. What's your LC version, OS version, XCode
version and SDK version (7?).

--Maarten

On Wednesday, August 24, 2011, Mark Schonewille <
m.schonewi...@economy-x-talk.com> wrote:
> Hi again, Maarten,
>
> Yesterday and today, I did a lot of testing with externals. I was able to
compile the sample external rresocket and included this external in a
standalone. The standalone was built from the stack included with the sample
XCode project provided by RunRev. When I tested the standalone, it ran fine
in both the simulator and on my iPhone.
>
> Then I created a very simple hello-world external from the template, quite
similar to yours. The template can be selected after you choose New from
XCode's file menu. I followed exactly the same steps as with the sample
external. I was able to run it in the simulator but when I installed it on
my iPhone, it crashed with the same console messages you posted.
>
> For now, my conclusion is that the sample externals run fine, but
externals created with the template won't work. I hope that anyone can
confirm this.
>
> --
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>
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>
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> On 24 aug 2011, at 20:41, Maarten Koopmans wrote:
>
>> Hi Mark,
>>
>> My external name is not all lowercase, I'll try that first. Otherwise
I'll
>> mail support.
>>
>> --Maarten
>>
>> On Wednesday, August 24, 2011, Mark Schonewille <
>> m.schonewi...@economy-x-talk.com> wrote:
>>> Hi Maarten,
>>>
>>> This is a known problem. Please, contact supp...@runrev.com and tell
them
>> you're struggling with this problem too.
>>>
>>> --
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>>>
>>> Mark Schonewille
>>>
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>>> Homepage: http://economy-x-talk.com
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>>> KvK: 50277553
>>>
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>> http://qery.us/v4 A must-have for LiveCode programmers.
>>>
>>> On 24 aug 2011, at 19:05, Maarten Koopmans wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi,
>>>>
>>>> I wrote the simplest external possible for iOS, it builds in Xcode,
>>>> but crashes for reasons unknown (to me….) on the iPhone. Simulator
>>>> won't work either. It's so simple, that I'm wondering….. if I can't
>>>> get this to work….
>>>>
>>>> See below, Maarten
>>>>
>>>> My IDL looks like this:
>>>>
>>>> // The name of the external (note external name must be all lowercase!)
>>>> external mbkTest
>>>> use c++-naming
>>>> use objc-objects
>>>>
>>>> function getString
>>>> return objc-string
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> And here is my code(mbkTest.mm):
>>>> #include 
>>>> #include 
>>>>
>>>> NSString* getString(void)
>>>> {
>>>>   return @"test";
>>>> }
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Crash log says: unknown iOS External Test[3436] : Startup
>>>> error: failed to load external
>
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Re: Sockets Question

[Maarten Koopmans]

On Wednesday, August 24, 2011, Andrew Henshaw  wrote:
> Im afraid that assumes I can program in objective c :)   Ive dabbled,  but
its far beyond me at the moment !
>
> Thanks for the pointers though,  maybe it is something I can farm out to
rentacoder.

You probably can't this is soecialized stuff on the networking side. I have
a working version with a rebol server ( desktop) and a Lua client that shows
how it can be done.

Contact me off-list if you wish to make sure we are not competitors :-) and
I might be able to help, as I try to port this over to LC for iOS at the
moment.


>
> Andy
>
> On 24 Aug 2011, at 21:21, Maarten Koopmans wrote:
>
>> Assuming you're talking iOS, use multicast in the mDNS group via an
>> Objective-C external. Pick your UDP port, and you'll notice that all wifi
>> routers support zeroconf/bonjour.
>>
>> This assumes the desktop sends.
>>
>> --Maarten
>
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Re: revcopyfolder problem

[Maarten Koopmans]

I have a copyfile in pure LC that's fast (nuch more than Applescript) and
should be easily extensible for folders.

I am traveling now, ping me in 10 days or off-list earlier if it's that
urgent and we'll wirk something out.

--Maarten

On Wednesday, August 24, 2011, J. Landman Gay 
wrote:
> I do use "create folder" so that does seem to point to the problem, only
in my case I don't even need to issue that command for the name-check to
fail. What it looks like from an uneducated view is that somehow the
Finder's database is updated to include a non-existent folder.
>
> The odd part is that it only fails sporadically for both of us, apparently
depending on the user's machine. At least for me, it never fails on my main
Mac, only on the MacBook.
>
> (Apologies to all for the long quoted stuff below but I want to keep the
context available.)
>
> On 8/24/11 1:57 PM, Ron wrote:
>
> Thanks Ken, Jacque, I know the result indicates an applescript
> problem, I should have clarified a bit by asking if the user could do
> something in his system that would cause the applescript problem.
>
> Jacque the problem sounds similar. My app creates a folder in the
> library/app support folder. That was failing so I sent him a stack
> that tried to write a simple folder to the support folder without all
> the other stuff the original app was doing. It failed but reported
> its progress to the point of using revcopyfolder. It created a folder
> and reported the existence of it afterwards. Then I tried to
> revcopyfolder from a folder stored in the .app package and it fails.
> I tried writing to the defaultfolder where the simpletest app was and
> the same result - execution error.
>
> Based on what you are seeing, perhaps the original report of the
> existence of the folder is incorrect so naturally the following call
> to revcopyfolder fails. The problem would then be in the call 'create
> folder'. Should we be looking there instead?
>
> Thanks Ron
>
>
>
> On Aug 24, 2011, at 2:30 PM, J. Landman Gay wrote:
>
> On 8/24/11 1:05 PM, Ken Ray wrote:
>
> On Aug 24, 2011, at 12:10 PM, ron barber wrote:
>
> Hi, A user is reporting a problem with my software and I have
> traced it back to an opening call to revcopyfolder. He is on a
> Mac 10.6. I sent him two other stacks that simply call
> revcopyfolder and they fail, returning execution error in the
> result. The paths check out and I have never had a report like
> this before. Can anyone suggest what might be going on? I know
> revcopyfolder uses Applescript but could that be the cause?
>
> Absolutely - the result "execution error" only comes from trying
> to run an AppleScript that has a problem.
>
> There may be something wonky going on with folders in 10.6 and
> maybe 10.7. I've had some weird experiences that are not always
> reproducible.
>
> Part 1: I have a function with a simple repeat loop that just looks
> for a uniquely numbered folder name so I can create a new numbered
> folder the same way the standalone builder does. It works fine on
> my iMac. If I move the stack to my MacBook Pro (same OS, same
> version of LiveCode) it fails the "there is a folder" check. The
> same thing happened to one of my testers.
>
> For example, I want a folder named "myfolder" and if one exists,
> append a number until there is no folder with that name. Assume
> there's already an existing folder named "myfolder". The next time
> I call the function and it hits this line:
>
> if there is a folder ("myfolder"&  x) then...
>
> it should return false because "myfolder 1" has not yet been
> created. But it returns true. The function then returns the name
> "myfolder 2".
>
> If I immediately run the function again, it returns "myfolder 3". I
> can repeat that indefinitely, even though no folders have actually
> been created at all.
>
> To make sure I wasn't hallucinating, I used Terminal to run "ls -a"
> to view the directory contents. There were no numbered folders in
> the directory.
>
> I have no explanation, and it doesn't happen on my iMac.
>
> Part 2: Someone on Lion, using the same stack, has no problem with
> the folder check and gets a correctly-named folder to hold some
> created files. But when a handler later tries to access the files
> from that folder, LiveCode reports the files do not exist -- even
> though they are visible in Finder and the file path is correct. It
> feels like a related problem but I'm not sure how exactly. I can't
> repro this one.
>
> It's weird and I'm stuck.
>
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Re: Sockets Question

[Maarten Koopmans]

Assuming you're talking iOS, use multicast in the mDNS group via an
Objective-C external. Pick your UDP port, and you'll notice that all wifi
routers support zeroconf/bonjour.

This assumes the desktop sends.

--Maarten

On Wednesday, August 24, 2011, Pierre Sahores 
wrote:
> Untested : a simple PUSH service should do the trick :
>
> Set the clients as servers able to listen to "HTTP POST" messages sent on
the your LAN broadcast address: your choosen port  by your real server where
the posted message will contains the server's IP address the clients will
then be able to store as a global var for further use.
>
> HTH,
>
> Le 24 août 2011 à 18:01, Andrew Henshaw a écrit :
>
>> I hope someone might have an answer as im just back from vacation and
starting to pull my hair out already :)
>>
>> I have an app that I would like to implement a sync feature in.  The
first step to this would appear to be able to exchange data between the
devices using the local network.  I have sockets up and running,  can
exchange data etc between devices,  all great so far.
>>
>> The problem is at the moment I need to enter the IP address of the
'server' in the setup into the clients for them to be able to connect,  but
I would like the clients to be able to discover the sever automatically as
would happen in most apps.
>>
>> Ive read all sorts of posts from simply scanning the ports,  through to
using 'datagrams' or broadcast messages,  but nothing seems to work.
 Scanning the ports seems very slow and unreliable,  while datagrams just
dont seem to do anything at all.
>>
>> Is there anything anyone can suggest,  it really doesnt matter how its
done as long as it works and is reliable.
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>> Andy
>>
>>
>>
>>
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Re: iOS external won't load

[Maarten Koopmans]

Essentially your saying iOS externals don't work? (not reliable is not at
all for me)

On Wednesday, August 24, 2011, Mark Schonewille <
m.schonewi...@economy-x-talk.com> wrote:
> Hi Maarten,
>
> I had an external names with all lower case letters and couldn't get it to
work at all. I had an external with mixed capitals and lower case letters
and could get it to work on my own phone but not on someone else's. If
you're careful with naming, then it doesn't matter whether you use lower
case or upper case or mixed. Of course, it would be better to stick to a
convention and always use lower case letters, but when I changed my mixed
name to all lower case at some point, I broke my only iOS external that did
work :-)
>
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> Op 24-aug-2011, om 20:41 heeft Maarten Koopmans het volgende geschreven:
>
>> Hi Mark,
>>
>> My external name is not all lowercase, I'll try that first. Otherwise
I'll
>> mail support.
>>
>> --Maarten
>
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Re: iOS external won't load

[Maarten Koopmans]

Hi Mark,

My external name is not all lowercase, I'll try that first. Otherwise I'll
mail support.

--Maarten

On Wednesday, August 24, 2011, Mark Schonewille <
m.schonewi...@economy-x-talk.com> wrote:
> Hi Maarten,
>
> This is a known problem. Please, contact supp...@runrev.com and tell them
you're struggling with this problem too.
>
> --
> Best regards,
>
> Mark Schonewille
>
> Economy-x-Talk Consulting and Software Engineering
> Homepage: http://economy-x-talk.com
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>
> On 24 aug 2011, at 19:05, Maarten Koopmans wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> I wrote the simplest external possible for iOS, it builds in Xcode,
>> but crashes for reasons unknown (to me….) on the iPhone. Simulator
>> won't work either. It's so simple, that I'm wondering….. if I can't
>> get this to work….
>>
>> See below, Maarten
>>
>> My IDL looks like this:
>>
>> // The name of the external (note external name must be all lowercase!)
>> external mbkTest
>> use c++-naming
>> use objc-objects
>>
>> function getString
>> return objc-string
>>
>>
>> And here is my code(mbkTest.mm):
>> #include 
>> #include 
>>
>> NSString* getString(void)
>> {
>>return @"test";
>> }
>>
>>
>> Crash log says: unknown iOS External Test[3436] : Startup
>> error: failed to load external
>
>
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iOS external won't load

[Maarten Koopmans]

Hi,

I wrote the simplest external possible for iOS, it builds in Xcode,
but crashes for reasons unknown (to me….) on the iPhone. Simulator
won't work either. It's so simple, that I'm wondering….. if I can't
get this to work….

See below, Maarten

My IDL looks like this:

// The name of the external (note external name must be all lowercase!)
external mbkTest
use c++-naming
use objc-objects

function getString
return objc-string


And here is my code(mbkTest.mm):
#include 
#include 

NSString* getString(void)
{
return @"test";
}


Crash log says: unknown iOS External Test[3436] : Startup
error: failed to load external

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Android mobileDeviceInfo

[Maarten Koopmans]

Hi,

Has anyone gotten mobileDeviceInfo with the HOST property working on
Android? I hope to be able to get my local (NATted) IP from that on Android.

Any clues highly appreciated!

Cheers, Maarten
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Re: [OT] More Apple Foolishness

[Maarten Koopmans]

I have a cloud backed storage piece of software that has a WebDAV front end
and multiple back ends. The idea was to make a PAYG service of that, but we
thought there wouldn't be interest.

It works with win/lin/osx/ios/androud clients.

Are you telling me I should revisit this business decision?

Cheers, Maarten

On Thursday, July 28, 2011, Chipp Walters  wrote:
> On Wed, Jul 27, 2011 at 9:25 PM, J. Landman Gay wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> I have read more Apple documentation in the last 2 months than I have in
>> the last ten years. Maybe I'm just too entrenched in old habits, maybe
it's
>> intuitive to new users.
>
>
> Yep, agreed. You should see the gymnastics I have to go through just to
send
> a Keynote presentation from my iPad to another person. You can't typically
> send it via email because it's too large and iMail just barfs, so then you
> need to deposit it in a public folder in your DropBox account, but of
course
> Apple doesn't support third party 'file managers' (even though for some
damn
> reason they've decided NOT to have one of their own-- OOPS, I guess some
> actually think MobileMe was the answer!)
>
> In order to get it to DropBox you need to set up the pricey WebDav
product:
> DropDav, then send it there, then get the URL from your DropBox account
and
> finally send THAT to the person you're trying to share the Keynote
> presentation with.
>
> Oh, the other way is to 'tether' your 'Post PC iPad' to an 'old
generation'
> PC, wait the 45 minutes or so that it forces a sync on you, then grab it
> from iTunes (the single most frustrating and annoying app interface-wise
on
> the whole planet on any OS), and then email it from your PC.
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Re: OT: gmail two factor authentication

[Maarten Koopmans]

Yep, a typo I decided was to spot-on to change :-)

On Mon, Jul 25, 2011 at 12:09 AM, Roger Eller
 wrote:
> On Sun, Jul 24, 2011 at 4:30 PM, Maarten Koopmans wrote:
>
>> All,
>>
>> I just got a nice box from Google explaining that there was suspicious
>> account activity from Mexico (I live in Amsterdam). I changed my
>> password, enabled two-factor authentication using their iPhone app and
>> use app-specific passwords.
>>
>> Also, I changed ALL passwords of all online services I use to new,
>> unique ones. My guess: it took one malicious web page, even though I
>> am up-to-fate with every component
>
>
> 
>
>
>>
>> --Maarten
>>
>
> It's always up-to-fate, isn't it?  ;-)
>
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OT: gmail two factor authentication

[Maarten Koopmans]

All,

I just got a nice box from Google explaining that there was suspicious
account activity from Mexico (I live in Amsterdam). I changed my
password, enabled two-factor authentication using their iPhone app and
use app-specific passwords.

Also, I changed ALL passwords of all online services I use to new,
unique ones. My guess: it took one malicious web page, even though I
am up-to-fate with every component

Anyway, if your a GMail user I strongly suggest switching to their
two-factor authentication (meaning that you provide a uniquely
generated number every time you login). I mean... if it can happen to
a careful user like me who used to work on identity management - it
literally can happen to anyone.

I knew that - but I did change all my passwords and checked my credit
card view (which is luckily "live") after the adrenalin rush.

Just thought to share the experience. We all read the horror stories,
I can confirm them now first-hand (though little damage has been done
so far AFAIK).

1) use unique passwords per service
2) use two factor authN on Google - it's a great add-on to the service

--Maarten

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Re: iOS: IP address (incl NAT address) of my device

[Maarten Koopmans]

John,

No, I saw that. I want the IP address of the iOS device my app is
running on. p39 is a way of monitoring the IP address of another
server for reachability.

Thanks,

Maarten

On Sat, Jun 18, 2011 at 12:38 PM, John Dixon  wrote:
>
> Page 36 of the iOS 4.6.1 release notes - for the device
> Page 38 of the iOS 4.6.1 release notes - for its IP
>
>> Hi,
>> See subject. My app needs to know the device its IP, including the NAT
>> version if applicable.
>>
>> put the hostAddresstoName of the hostName into tIP
>>
>> doesn't work on iOS. Any thoughts greatly appreciated!
>
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iOS: IP address (incl NAT address) of my device

[Maarten Koopmans]

Hi,
See subject. My app needs to know the device its IP, including the NAT
version if applicable.

put the hostAddresstoName of the hostName into tIP

doesn't work on iOS. Any thoughts greatly appreciated!
--Maarten

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Re: UDP, multicast

[Maarten Koopmans]

I guess that' a no, then :'(

--Maarten

Op 13 jun. 2011 10:16 schreef "Maarten Koopmans" 
het volgende:
>
> Hi,
>
> Is there a way to send or receive multicast in livecode? I want to use
that with a TTL=2 so devices on the same network can discover each other
(cross-platform).
>
> Thanks,
>
> Maarten
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UDP, multicast

[Maarten Koopmans]

Hi,

Is there a way to send or receive multicast in livecode? I want to use that
with a TTL=2 so devices on the same network can discover each other
(cross-platform).

Thanks,

Maarten
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Re: revdb_query in function silently errs out

[Maarten Koopmans]

Well, I just opened and closed a new connection inside the function, and
that works like it should. So it looks like I'll make a stack-based
"verify-connection" function (and it's little brother, clean-up connection).

--Maarten

On Mon, May 9, 2011 at 11:39 PM, Pete  wrote:

> Got it, thanks.  I've experienced similar things in LC.  Is it possible
> that
> the data coming back from your query could include NULL characters?  I've
> seen that cause problems like this.
>
> Some SQL dbs do have connection timeouts but I don't think SQlite does.
>
> Might be able to figure out more if you post a snippet of your code.
>
> Pete
> Molly's Revenge <http://www.mollysrevenge.com>
>
>
>
>
> On Mon, May 9, 2011 at 2:22 PM, Maarten Koopmans <
> maarten.koopm...@gmail.com
> > wrote:
>
> > I am doing a revdb_query in a function; my database id is a global. I
> > am in a handler that has done a few queries, then calls said function.
> > The sql has been reduced to a dummy select * from table. Earlier
> > cursors are closed, and I use sqlite.
> >
> > I use 'answer question ...' and the one right after the query ( and
> > all logic after that) is never reached. One thing I'll try is
> > open/close a connection in the function.
> >
> > --Maarten
> >
> > On Monday, May 9, 2011, Pete  wrote:
> > > Hi Maarten,
> > > Can you describe in a bit more detail what happens?  Are you using
> > > revDataFromQuery or revQueryDatabase to issue the SELECT?  If it errors
> > out
> > > silently, how do you discover that it didn't work?
> > > Pete
> > > Molly's Revenge <http://www.mollysrevenge.com>
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > On Mon, May 9, 2011 at 1:27 PM, Maarten Koopmans <
> > maarten.koopm...@gmail.com
> > >> wrote:
> > >
> > >> I'll try that and maybe sqlyoga, but I am using sqlite with only
> > >> milliseconds in between. But query results as arrays etc. Sounds like
> > >> a missing piece, so while typing I have decided to give sqlyoga a try.
> > >>
> > >> --Maarten
> > >>
> > >> On Monday, May 9, 2011, Bob Sneidar  wrote:
> > >> > How long are you leaving the connection idle? SQL typically has
> > >> connection timeouts built in so that someone cannot use up all the
> > available
> > >> threads and then dump them without terminating them as a means of
> > denying
> > >> service.
> > >> >
> > >> > When working with SQL I like to open/reconnect, make my queries,
> then
> > >> disconnect right away without any user interaction. Otherwise, a user
> > could
> > >> leave an error dialog open and not respond until after the database
> > times
> > >> out.
> > >> >
> > >> > I usually have in my stack or database connection card scripts for
> > >> initializing and making the connection, idling the connection (which
> is
> > >> really a disconnect) and closing the connection. To SQL this results
> in
> > >> either a connection being made, or else a disconnect, but to my apps
> > after
> > >> the first connection is made, I set a state wherein I know I can
> proceed
> > >> after the first connection is made because I know the database is
> there
> > and
> > >> responding to queries. Hence the "idle state".
> > >> >
> > >> > I wrap all my sql connection/query commands in a try/catch statement
> > so
> > >> that if an error is generated, I call my disconnect handler first,
> then
> > >> alert the user that an error has occurred. This has eliminated
> virtually
> > all
> > >> the normal SQL issues I used to have. It's also good programming
> > practice
> > >> for SQL.
> > >> >
> > >> > Of course, SQLite is a local file (typically) so this is not as much
> > of
> > >> an issue, but still I believe there are default timeouts you can
> > encounter.
> > >> >
> > >> > Also, consider seriously, Trevor DeVore's great SQLYoga utility,
> which
> > >> takes most of the pain and suffering out of working with SQL. You can
> > return
> > >> queries as lists, arrays or records, which I think are a special kind
> of
> > >> SQLYoga array.
> > >> >
> > >> > Bob
> > >> >
>

Re: revdb_query in function silently errs out

[Maarten Koopmans]

I am doing a revdb_query in a function; my database id is a global. I
am in a handler that has done a few queries, then calls said function.
The sql has been reduced to a dummy select * from table. Earlier
cursors are closed, and I use sqlite.

I use 'answer question ...' and the one right after the query ( and
all logic after that) is never reached. One thing I'll try is
open/close a connection in the function.

--Maarten

On Monday, May 9, 2011, Pete  wrote:
> Hi Maarten,
> Can you describe in a bit more detail what happens?  Are you using
> revDataFromQuery or revQueryDatabase to issue the SELECT?  If it errors out
> silently, how do you discover that it didn't work?
> Pete
> Molly's Revenge <http://www.mollysrevenge.com>
>
>
>
>
> On Mon, May 9, 2011 at 1:27 PM, Maarten Koopmans > wrote:
>
>> I'll try that and maybe sqlyoga, but I am using sqlite with only
>> milliseconds in between. But query results as arrays etc. Sounds like
>> a missing piece, so while typing I have decided to give sqlyoga a try.
>>
>> --Maarten
>>
>> On Monday, May 9, 2011, Bob Sneidar  wrote:
>> > How long are you leaving the connection idle? SQL typically has
>> connection timeouts built in so that someone cannot use up all the available
>> threads and then dump them without terminating them as a means of denying
>> service.
>> >
>> > When working with SQL I like to open/reconnect, make my queries, then
>> disconnect right away without any user interaction. Otherwise, a user could
>> leave an error dialog open and not respond until after the database times
>> out.
>> >
>> > I usually have in my stack or database connection card scripts for
>> initializing and making the connection, idling the connection (which is
>> really a disconnect) and closing the connection. To SQL this results in
>> either a connection being made, or else a disconnect, but to my apps after
>> the first connection is made, I set a state wherein I know I can proceed
>> after the first connection is made because I know the database is there and
>> responding to queries. Hence the "idle state".
>> >
>> > I wrap all my sql connection/query commands in a try/catch statement so
>> that if an error is generated, I call my disconnect handler first, then
>> alert the user that an error has occurred. This has eliminated virtually all
>> the normal SQL issues I used to have. It's also good programming practice
>> for SQL.
>> >
>> > Of course, SQLite is a local file (typically) so this is not as much of
>> an issue, but still I believe there are default timeouts you can encounter.
>> >
>> > Also, consider seriously, Trevor DeVore's great SQLYoga utility, which
>> takes most of the pain and suffering out of working with SQL. You can return
>> queries as lists, arrays or records, which I think are a special kind of
>> SQLYoga array.
>> >
>> > Bob
>> >
>> >
>> > On May 9, 2011, at 10:26 AM, Maarten Koopmans wrote:
>> >
>> >> Hi,
>> >>
>> >> I have a simple "select * from table" against a sqlite dbid in a
>> function,
>> >> Livecode 4.6.1 on OS 10.6.7
>> >>
>> >> For some weird reason it errs out, silently. The only reason I can think
>> of
>> >> is that I didn;t close my cursor in a previous call, but other than
>> that, I
>> >> am "snow blind". Anybody ever seen this before?
>> >>
>> >> --Maarten
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Re: revdb_query in function silently errs out

[Maarten Koopmans]

I'll try that and maybe sqlyoga, but I am using sqlite with only
milliseconds in between. But query results as arrays etc. Sounds like
a missing piece, so while typing I have decided to give sqlyoga a try.

--Maarten

On Monday, May 9, 2011, Bob Sneidar  wrote:
> How long are you leaving the connection idle? SQL typically has connection 
> timeouts built in so that someone cannot use up all the available threads and 
> then dump them without terminating them as a means of denying service.
>
> When working with SQL I like to open/reconnect, make my queries, then 
> disconnect right away without any user interaction. Otherwise, a user could 
> leave an error dialog open and not respond until after the database times out.
>
> I usually have in my stack or database connection card scripts for 
> initializing and making the connection, idling the connection (which is 
> really a disconnect) and closing the connection. To SQL this results in 
> either a connection being made, or else a disconnect, but to my apps after 
> the first connection is made, I set a state wherein I know I can proceed 
> after the first connection is made because I know the database is there and 
> responding to queries. Hence the "idle state".
>
> I wrap all my sql connection/query commands in a try/catch statement so that 
> if an error is generated, I call my disconnect handler first, then alert the 
> user that an error has occurred. This has eliminated virtually all the normal 
> SQL issues I used to have. It's also good programming practice for SQL.
>
> Of course, SQLite is a local file (typically) so this is not as much of an 
> issue, but still I believe there are default timeouts you can encounter.
>
> Also, consider seriously, Trevor DeVore's great SQLYoga utility, which takes 
> most of the pain and suffering out of working with SQL. You can return 
> queries as lists, arrays or records, which I think are a special kind of 
> SQLYoga array.
>
> Bob
>
>
> On May 9, 2011, at 10:26 AM, Maarten Koopmans wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> I have a simple "select * from table" against a sqlite dbid in a function,
>> Livecode 4.6.1 on OS 10.6.7
>>
>> For some weird reason it errs out, silently. The only reason I can think of
>> is that I didn;t close my cursor in a previous call, but other than that, I
>> am "snow blind". Anybody ever seen this before?
>>
>> --Maarten
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revdb_query in function silently errs out

[Maarten Koopmans]

Hi,

I have a simple "select * from table" against a sqlite dbid in a function,
Livecode 4.6.1 on OS 10.6.7

For some weird reason it errs out, silently. The only reason I can think of
is that I didn;t close my cursor in a previous call, but other than that, I
am "snow blind". Anybody ever seen this before?

--Maarten
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Re: menu icon in OS X

[Maarten Koopmans]

On Tue, May 3, 2011 at 3:33 PM, Ken Ray  wrote:

> >> I Googled a lot, but I haven't found it...
> >>
> >> I'd like to have a little menu icon to the right on closing my app in
> the
> >> Mac menu bar, is that possible at all. And when a user clicks the icon a
> >> menu appears. If you've ever seen the dropbox menu icon, you know what I
> >> mean. Any small snippet (as usual ;-) highly appreciated.
> >
> > Check the "Status icon support (4.5 ­ experimental)" section of the
> > Release Notes. You can open the Release Notes from the Help menu in the
> > IDE. This is a relatively new feature that allows you to put a status
> > icon in the Mac menu bar (or system tray on Windows.) It is experimental
> > for now, which means it may have bugs or irregularities.
> >
> > I don't think the icon will remain if you quit your app. You'll need to
> > just hide your stack instead of quitting.
>
> Sorry to be late to the party on this, but currently the status icon
> support
> in LC is for Windows only (at least according to the Read Me).
>

Better late than never :-)


>
> I have a step-by-step tutorial on setting one up using Xcode, that includes
> calling AppleScript from any status menu items you create (which would
> allow
> you to reopen your app, or anything else AS supports).
>
> Here's the URL:
>
> http://www.sonsothunder.com/devres/livecode/tutorials/StatusMenu.html
>

Much appreciated, thanks.

--Maarten
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Re: The overwhelming data grid

[Maarten Koopmans]

Nevermind, I just found the excellent lessons at:

http://lessons.runrev.com/spaces/lessons/manuals/datagrid/lessons/

Should be included in the manual though!

On Wed, Apr 20, 2011 at 8:11 AM, Maarten Koopmans <
maarten.koopm...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi,
>
> I have a use case for the data grid, but the component feels a bit
> overwhelming. Really simple: I have rows for the grid in 3 columns, I
> want to style each column diferently, and attach different actions to
> every column type (cell). Some cells may have an icon instead of a
> text, or both. Text may have fonts, color, 
>
> There are quite some tutorials, and ways to get started- and lost for
> a few says. Datagrid looks very powerful, but with a steep learning
> curve. Any pointers appreciated!
>
>
> --Maarten
>
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The overwhelming data grid

[Maarten Koopmans]

Hi,

I have a use case for the data grid, but the component feels a bit
overwhelming. Really simple: I have rows for the grid in 3 columns, I
want to style each column diferently, and attach different actions to
every column type (cell). Some cells may have an icon instead of a
text, or both. Text may have fonts, color, 

There are quite some tutorials, and ways to get started- and lost for
a few says. Datagrid looks very powerful, but with a steep learning
curve. Any pointers appreciated!


--Maarten

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menu icon in OS X

[Maarten Koopmans]

Hi,

I Googled a lot, but I haven't found it...

I'd like to have a little menu icon to the right on closing my app in the
Mac menu bar, is that possible at all. And when a user clicks the icon a
menu appears. If you've ever seen the dropbox menu icon, you know what I
mean. Any small snippet (as usual ;-) highly appreciated.

--Maarten
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Re: text field in modal allows no input

[Maarten Koopmans]

Thanks Trevor, that does the trick, also with a sheet, which gave the same
problem! Sadly, I don't have acess to the QCC anymore sine the new "paid
supoort list" thing.

Thanks a lot for your help though!

--Maarten

On Mon, Apr 18, 2011 at 1:22 PM, Trevor DeVore wrote:

> On Sat, Apr 16, 2011 at 11:26 AM, Maarten Koopmans <
> maarten.koopm...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > I have a main stack that accepts a drag-drop for files like this on a
> > hidden
> > field the size of the card:
> >
> > *on* dragDrop
> >
> >   *if* the dragData["files"] is not empty *then*
> >
> >  *modal* stack  "AddMetaData"
> >
> >  addFiles(dragData["files"])
> >
> >   *end* *if*
> >
> >   *set* the dragAction to link
> >
> >   *pass* dragDrop
> >
> > *end* dragDrop'
> >
>
> You might try processing the files outside of the drag event.
>
> Change:
> modal stack  "AddMetaData"
> addFiles(dragData["files"])
>
> To:
> put the dragData["files"] into theFiles
> send "ProcessDrop theFiles" to me in 0 milliseconds
>
> And add:
> on ProcessDrop pFiles
>modal stack  "AddMetaData"
>addFiles pFiles
> end ProcessDrop
>
> One thing to note is that it is possible for dragData["files"] to disappear
> after a drag and drop operation. I have seen graphics applications that
> make
> a file available during drag and drop but then delete it when the drag and
> drop operation is complete. In this scenario you need to copy the files to
> a
> new location in dragDrop and then process the copies outside of the drag
> and
> drop operation. This scenario is probably rare though.
>
> Even if this solves the problem I would recommend filing a bug report so
> the
> issue can possibly be fixed in the future.
>
> --
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Re: Check for first run

[Maarten Koopmans]

Yes, I was thinking along those lines but... Iw ant the user to point to a
root folder, where (among others) the db file will be stored :-) But I
should be able to take it from here.

--Maarten

On Sun, Apr 17, 2011 at 11:55 PM, Pete  wrote:

> Even if the db does exist, just set a value into a column in in to indicate
> initialisation has occurred.
>
> Pete
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>
>
>
>
> On Sun, Apr 17, 2011 at 1:38 PM, Warren Samples  >wrote:
>
> > On Sunday, April 17, 2011 01:42:28 AM Maarten Koopmans wrote:
> > > Hi,
> > >
> > > Is there a best practice for checking if the application is on  a
> > > first run for a standalone(especially one that will go to an App store
> > > eventually)?
> > >
> > > I simply need to ask the user a few questions on first run (and set up
> > > a sqlite db).
> > >
> > > Best, Maarten
> >
> >
> > Why don't you check for the existence of the db file? If it exists, your
> > app has been run, no? If it doesn't
> > exist, then you'll have to go through setup, even if it has run before
> but
> > the file has been deleted.
> >
> > Warren
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Re: text field in modal allows no input

[Maarten Koopmans]

I added this to openCard, but alas, still didn't work :-(

--Maarten

On Sun, Apr 17, 2011 at 7:45 AM, Maarten Koopmans <
maarten.koopm...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Thanks, I will test. The advantage of livecode being that you can
> redesign your UI flow so fast, i came up witha flow without modals tha
> people seems to like more (modals can be a bit intrusive). But I'll
> test anyway See if this trick helps for future ference :-)
>
> --Maarten
>
> On Saturday, April 16, 2011, Mike Bonner  wrote:
> > No longer have a mac, but I seem to remember this same thing happening in
> > non-lc applications also, and intermittently in the lc dictionary(I think
> > there were several threads about the dictionary annoyance here).  The fix
> > being to click outside the field then refocus the field.
> >
> > As a workaround, if its fast enough maybe you can use click and click a
> > blank spot on the card, then focus back on the field object. Or more
> simply,
> > have an obscured button or field (put it behind something opaque) and
> then
> >
> > focus on field "mycheaterfield"
> > wait 10 milliseconds
> > focus on field "fieldIreallywantfocused"
> >
> > don't know if it will work, can't test, but its a thought.
> >
> > On Sat, Apr 16, 2011 at 11:23 AM, Maarten Koopmans <
> > maarten.koopm...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >> Mac bug. Same stack on windows work fine with text input on a modal in a
> >> dragDrop. I'll see if I can file a bug.
> >>
> >> If you  know of a work around (except redesigning the UI.), I'd be
> very
> >> thankful.
> >>
> >> --Maarten
> >>
> >> On Sat, Apr 16, 2011 at 5:26 PM, Maarten Koopmans <
> >> maarten.koopm...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> > Hi
> >> >
> >> > I have a main stack that accepts a drag-drop for files like this on a
> >> > hidden field the size of the card:
> >> >
> >> > *on* dragDrop
> >> >
> >> >*if* the dragData["files"] is not empty *then*
> >> >
> >> >   *modal* stack  "AddMetaData"
> >> >
> >> >   addFiles(dragData["files"])
> >> >
> >> >*end* *if*
> >> >
> >> >*set* the dragAction to link
> >> >
> >> >*pass* dragDrop
> >> >
> >> > *end* dragDrop
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > The addFiles command just copies the files.
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > AddMetaData is a substack with just one text field and an "OK" button,
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > *on* mouseUp
> >> >
> >> >*global* gNewTags
> >> >
> >> >*put the text of field MetaData into gNewMetaData*
> >> >
> >> >*close* this stack
> >> >
> >> > *end* mouseUp
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > The problem: the text field has focus, but I can't type in it!
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > I tried to mimick it with a simple mainstack/substack where the
> mainstack
> >> > has a button"Go modal", and the moda stack is the same, and there
> it
> >> > works. So I must be missings omething with te message path/drag
> >> drop/.
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > Any clues? I have thought about a more wizard like behaviour, but nce
> I
> >> > start hiding/closing stacks and using go to things are indeed
> editable,
> >> but
> >> > highly unpredictable.
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > --Maarten
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > ** Just to be the clear, my use case is quite simple:
> >> > 1- user drags file on stack
> >> > 2- user adds some mandatory info about the files
> >> > 3- files get copied
> >> >
> >> > (2) is causing the problems, probably because I don't have my head
> >> wrapped
> >> > around LC completely (though I do feel more comfortable more and more)
> >> >
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Check for first run

[Maarten Koopmans]

Hi,

Is there a best practice for checking if the application is on  a
first run for a standalone(especially one that will go to an App store
eventually)?

I simply need to ask the user a few questions on first run (and set up
a sqlite db).

Best, Maarten

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Re: text field in modal allows no input

[Maarten Koopmans]

Thanks, I will test. The advantage of livecode being that you can
redesign your UI flow so fast, i came up witha flow without modals tha
people seems to like more (modals can be a bit intrusive). But I'll
test anyway See if this trick helps for future ference :-)

--Maarten

On Saturday, April 16, 2011, Mike Bonner  wrote:
> No longer have a mac, but I seem to remember this same thing happening in
> non-lc applications also, and intermittently in the lc dictionary(I think
> there were several threads about the dictionary annoyance here).  The fix
> being to click outside the field then refocus the field.
>
> As a workaround, if its fast enough maybe you can use click and click a
> blank spot on the card, then focus back on the field object. Or more simply,
> have an obscured button or field (put it behind something opaque) and then
>
> focus on field "mycheaterfield"
> wait 10 milliseconds
> focus on field "fieldIreallywantfocused"
>
> don't know if it will work, can't test, but its a thought.
>
> On Sat, Apr 16, 2011 at 11:23 AM, Maarten Koopmans <
> maarten.koopm...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Mac bug. Same stack on windows work fine with text input on a modal in a
>> dragDrop. I'll see if I can file a bug.
>>
>> If you  know of a work around (except redesigning the UI.), I'd be very
>> thankful.
>>
>> --Maarten
>>
>> On Sat, Apr 16, 2011 at 5:26 PM, Maarten Koopmans <
>> maarten.koopm...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> > Hi
>> >
>> > I have a main stack that accepts a drag-drop for files like this on a
>> > hidden field the size of the card:
>> >
>> > *on* dragDrop
>> >
>> >    *if* the dragData["files"] is not empty *then*
>> >
>> >       *modal* stack  "AddMetaData"
>> >
>> >       addFiles(dragData["files"])
>> >
>> >    *end* *if*
>> >
>> >    *set* the dragAction to link
>> >
>> >    *pass* dragDrop
>> >
>> > *end* dragDrop
>> >
>> >
>> > The addFiles command just copies the files.
>> >
>> >
>> > AddMetaData is a substack with just one text field and an "OK" button,
>> >
>> >
>> > *on* mouseUp
>> >
>> >    *global* gNewTags
>> >
>> >    *put the text of field MetaData into gNewMetaData*
>> >
>> >    *close* this stack
>> >
>> > *end* mouseUp
>> >
>> >
>> > The problem: the text field has focus, but I can't type in it!
>> >
>> >
>> > I tried to mimick it with a simple mainstack/substack where the mainstack
>> > has a button"Go modal", and the moda stack is the same, and there it
>> > works. So I must be missings omething with te message path/drag
>> drop/.
>> >
>> >
>> > Any clues? I have thought about a more wizard like behaviour, but nce I
>> > start hiding/closing stacks and using go to things are indeed editable,
>> but
>> > highly unpredictable.
>> >
>> >
>> > --Maarten
>> >
>> >
>> > ** Just to be the clear, my use case is quite simple:
>> > 1- user drags file on stack
>> > 2- user adds some mandatory info about the files
>> > 3- files get copied
>> >
>> > (2) is causing the problems, probably because I don't have my head
>> wrapped
>> > around LC completely (though I do feel more comfortable more and more)
>> >
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Re: text field in modal allows no input

[Maarten Koopmans]

Mac bug. Same stack on windows work fine with text input on a modal in a
dragDrop. I'll see if I can file a bug.

If you  know of a work around (except redesigning the UI.), I'd be very
thankful.

--Maarten

On Sat, Apr 16, 2011 at 5:26 PM, Maarten Koopmans <
maarten.koopm...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi
>
> I have a main stack that accepts a drag-drop for files like this on a
> hidden field the size of the card:
>
> *on* dragDrop
>
>*if* the dragData["files"] is not empty *then*
>
>   *modal* stack  "AddMetaData"
>
>   addFiles(dragData["files"])
>
>*end* *if*
>
>*set* the dragAction to link
>
>*pass* dragDrop
>
> *end* dragDrop
>
>
> The addFiles command just copies the files.
>
>
> AddMetaData is a substack with just one text field and an "OK" button,
>
>
> *on* mouseUp
>
>*global* gNewTags
>
>*put the text of field MetaData into gNewMetaData*
>
>*close* this stack
>
> *end* mouseUp
>
>
> The problem: the text field has focus, but I can't type in it!
>
>
> I tried to mimick it with a simple mainstack/substack where the mainstack
> has a button"Go modal", and the moda stack is the same, and there it
> works. So I must be missings omething with te message path/drag drop/.
>
>
> Any clues? I have thought about a more wizard like behaviour, but nce I
> start hiding/closing stacks and using go to things are indeed editable, but
> highly unpredictable.
>
>
> --Maarten
>
>
> ** Just to be the clear, my use case is quite simple:
> 1- user drags file on stack
> 2- user adds some mandatory info about the files
> 3- files get copied
>
> (2) is causing the problems, probably because I don't have my head wrapped
> around LC completely (though I do feel more comfortable more and more)
>
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text field in modal allows no input

[Maarten Koopmans]

Hi

I have a main stack that accepts a drag-drop for files like this on a hidden
field the size of the card:

*on* dragDrop

   *if* the dragData["files"] is not empty *then*

  *modal* stack  "AddMetaData"

  addFiles(dragData["files"])

   *end* *if*

   *set* the dragAction to link

   *pass* dragDrop

*end* dragDrop


The addFiles command just copies the files.


AddMetaData is a substack with just one text field and an "OK" button,


*on* mouseUp

   *global* gNewTags

   *put the text of field MetaData into gNewMetaData*

   *close* this stack

*end* mouseUp


The problem: the text field has focus, but I can't type in it!


I tried to mimick it with a simple mainstack/substack where the mainstack
has a button"Go modal", and the moda stack is the same, and there it
works. So I must be missings omething with te message path/drag drop/.


Any clues? I have thought about a more wizard like behaviour, but nce I
start hiding/closing stacks and using go to things are indeed editable, but
highly unpredictable.


--Maarten


** Just to be the clear, my use case is quite simple:
1- user drags file on stack
2- user adds some mandatory info about the files
3- files get copied

(2) is causing the problems, probably because I don't have my head wrapped
around LC completely (though I do feel more comfortable more and more)
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Re: Free LiveCode eBook

[Maarten Koopmans]

Thanks!

On Friday, April 15, 2011, Colin Holgate  wrote:
>
> On Apr 15, 2011, at 12:59 AM, Scott McDonald wrote:
>
>> It's free and you can get it here:
>>
>> http://www.runrevplanet.com/free-downloads.html
>
>
> Thanks. I put it onto my iPad too, it looks good in iBooks.
>
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Re: revCopyFile slow?

[Maarten Koopmans]

Actually, the below functions work pretty fast on Win7 (will test on OS X).
Added them as a back script works nicely. Credit where credit is due,
the fileSize function I grabbed from the mailing list (weird that such a
thing is not readily available)

function fileSize pFilePath
   -- split the file path into the folder and url-encoded file name
   local tFolder, tEncodedFile
   set the itemDelimiter to slash
   put item 1 to -2 of pFilePath into tFolder
   put urlEncode(item -1 of pFilePath) into tEncodedFile
   set the itemDelimiter to comma
   -- now change the defaultfolder and get the detailed files information
   local tOldDefaultFolder, tDetailedFiles
   put the defaultFolder into tOldDefaultFolder
   set the defaultFolder to tFolder
   put the detailed files into tDetailedFiles
   set the defaultFolder to tOldDefaultFolder
   -- filter down the list to just the file we're interested in
   filter tDetailedFiles with (tEncodedFile & ",*")
   return (item 2 of tDetailedFiles + item 3 of tDetailedFiles)
end FileSize

on copyFile source,destination
   --revCopyFile source,destination
   put fileSize(source) into theSize
   open file source for binary read
   open file destination for binary write

   put 16384 into buflen

   repeat until  theSize is 0
  if theSize >16384 then put 16384 into buflen
  read from file source for  buflen
  write it to file destination
  subtract buflen from theSize
  put theSize into buflen
   end repeat

  close file source
  close file destination
end copyFile

On Sun, Apr 10, 2011 at 4:57 PM, Mike Bonner  wrote:

> For shell windows showing look at the property hideConsoleWindows
>
> If you're worried about shell blocking, could do your file management stuff
> as a process instead.
>
> Syntax:
> open process appName [for [text|binary] {read | write | update | neither}]
>
> Haven't done much with open process myself, but can probably do what you
> want that way.
>
> On Sun, Apr 10, 2011 at 8:49 AM, Maarten Koopmans <
> maarten.koopm...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > I'll try the command shell, I hope the command window doesn't show.
> > Blocking behavior is another fear ( why revCopyFile is unacceptable).
> >
> > Thanks for all the hints and advice everybody!
> >
> > --Maarten
> >
> > On Sunday, April 10, 2011, Jim Ault  wrote:
> > > On Apr 10, 2011, at 5:31 AM, Mark Schonewille wrote:
> > >
> > > Maarten,
> > > That depends on many factors. I have been in situations where writing a
> > few tens of thousands of files too hours using read/write, while using
> the
> > shell command took a few minutes. I have also been in situations where
> > read/write was actually the preferred method. If it is about speed,
> though,
> > I'd go with the command line. You can do the benchmarking if it really
> > matters to you.
> > >
> > >
> > > And if you program your progress bar to show
> > > movie trailers, sports highlights, or car crashes,
> > > the user won't mind so much if the file writing process is slower.
> > >
> > > Jim Ault
> > > Las Vegas
> > >
> > >
> > > On 10 apr 2011, at 14:14, Maarten Koopmans wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > > Really?  Ever benchmarked open, read, write on files? How slow are
> they?
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
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Re: revCopyFile slow?

[Maarten Koopmans]

I'll try the command shell, I hope the command window doesn't show.
Blocking behavior is another fear ( why revCopyFile is unacceptable).

Thanks for all the hints and advice everybody!

--Maarten

On Sunday, April 10, 2011, Jim Ault  wrote:
> On Apr 10, 2011, at 5:31 AM, Mark Schonewille wrote:
>
> Maarten,
> That depends on many factors. I have been in situations where writing a few 
> tens of thousands of files too hours using read/write, while using the shell 
> command took a few minutes. I have also been in situations where read/write 
> was actually the preferred method. If it is about speed, though, I'd go with 
> the command line. You can do the benchmarking if it really matters to you.
>
>
> And if you program your progress bar to show
> movie trailers, sports highlights, or car crashes,
> the user won't mind so much if the file writing process is slower.
>
> Jim Ault
> Las Vegas
>
>
> On 10 apr 2011, at 14:14, Maarten Koopmans wrote:
>
>
> Really?  Ever benchmarked open, read, write on files? How slow are they?
>
>
>
>
>
>
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Re: revCopyFile slow?

[Maarten Koopmans]

Really?  Ever benchmarked open, read, write on files? How slow are they?

On Sunday, April 10, 2011, Mark Schonewille
 wrote:
> Cross-platform yes, fast no.
>
> --
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>
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> On 10 apr 2011, at 13:36, Maarten Koopmans wrote:
>
>> Yes, but a simple rev implementation should be as fast and
>> cross-platform (windows Mobile.)
>
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Re: socket handling/libURL changed between 4.0 and 4.6?

[Maarten Koopmans]

Off note: if you have a client webdav library, I'd be very interested.
Please contact me (off list if that works better fo you).

Best, Maarten

On Sunday, April 10, 2011, Web Admin Himalayan Academy  wrote:
>  Better push this one to a ticket in the QA center with a sample stack.
>
> On 4/9/11 9:23 AM, Bernard Devlin wrote:
>
> I have some very simple code that works in 4.0 (on both Linux and
> Windows), but which fails on 4.6.  The code posts XML to a webserver
> and now fails on both Linux and Windows using 4.6.  It is making
> PROPFIND requests to a webdav server.  But fundamentally it is just
> HTTP request/response, and should work in 4.6 just as it works in 4.0.
>
> The problem manifests itself as a socket timeout on 4.6, but there is
> not timeout on 4.0.  The normal response times from the server are in
> a sub-4000 ms range, but even if I set the socketTimeoutInterval to
> 3 ms, the code fails with a socket timeout. Reverting back to 4.0,
> and the same code works in a sub-4000 ms range with no timeout.
>
> on mouseUp
>     resetAll
>     put fld "request" into tXml
>     libURLSetCustomHTTPHeaders (fld "headers")  -- headers contains
> PROPFIND method
>     put "http://192.168.0.202:1980/"; into tURL
>     try
>        wait 50 milliseconds with messages
>        post tXml to URL tURL
>     catch tError
>        put "error"&&  tError
>     finally
>        put the long time&  cr&  it&  cr&  the result into fld "response"
>        put the long time&  cr&   libUrlLastRhHeaders() into fld 
> "ResponseHeaders"
>     end try
> end mouseUp
>
> The server has not changed, and I've tried alternatiing repeatedly
> between 4.0 and 4.6, and the problem is there consistently with 4.6
> and not at all with 4.0.
>
> I see in 4.5 there was a change to DNS resolution, so I tried adding a
> manual entry to my hosts file, but even though a browser can resolve
> the ip address from the hostname, Livecode still fails. With
> Revolution 4.0, it works with either IP address or a hostname resolved
> via lookup to the hosts file.
>
> I also put a HTTP inspector between the IDE and the server.  After
> setting the httpProxy, with 4.0 I can intercept the calls to the
> server and view them; but with 4.6 they do not even reach the HTTP
> inspector.
>
> I tried setting up libURL logging using:
>
>   libUrlSetLogField ("field"&&  quote&  "LogField"&  quote)
>
> but it didn't make any difference - logging doesn't seem to work on 4.0 or 
> 4.6.
>
> I tried putting breakpoints inside the libURL handlers themselves, but
> they never seem to get triggered - not even on 4.0 where the "post to
> URL" is working.  Is there something I'm missing in how one should be
> able to step into the libURL code?
>
> Bernard Devlin
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Re: revCopyFile slow?

[Maarten Koopmans]

Yes, but a simple rev implementation should be as fast and
cross-platform (windows Mobile.)

On Sunday, April 10, 2011, Web Admin Himalayan Academy  wrote:
>  On 4/8/11 6:25 AM, Maarten Koopmans wrote:
>
> I'll just write a copyfile function in LC then. That should be near-C
> speed, assuming open/read/write are implemented close to the os.
>
> Thanks, Maarten
>
> I would second Mark's option to use shell, I have a complete in-house version 
> control system for InDesign files that runs pretty much entirely using cp and 
> mv  .
>
> These all run about as fast as the network and disk I/0 can handle...
>
> e.g.
>
> command Checkout pFileName
>
>    CheckServerIsMounted
>
>    if the uServerMounted of this stack <> "true" then
>       answer  "Sorry, Server is not mounted, you cannot check out files." 
> with "OK"
>       exit to top
>    end if
>    # Make a copy in Versions Archive
>    put (the uServerProjectPath of this stack) &"/"& pFileName into 
> tCurrentLocationPath
>    put tCurrentLocationPath into tArchivePath
>    set the itemDelimiter to "/"
>    put "/Versions Archive" after item 5 of tArchivePath
>    put ("cp " & quote & tCurrentLocationPath & quote &" "& quote & 
> tArchivePath & quote) into tShell
>    get shell (tShell)
>
>    # update Control string and rename the top level file
>
>    put the uUserInitials of this stack into char -7 to -6 of pFileName
>    replace "-ci-" with "-co-" in pFileName
>    put (the uServerProjectPath of this stack) &"/"& pFileName into 
> tNewNamePath
>    put ("mv " & quote & tCurrentLocationPath & quote &" "& quote & 
> tNewNamePath & quote) into tShell
>    get shell (tShell)
>
>         # Copy to local folder
>      put gLocalProjectPath &"/"& pFileName into tNewLocalPath
>    put ("cp " & quote & tNewNamePath & quote &" "& quote & tNewLocalPath & 
> quote) into tShell
>    get shell (tShell)
>
>       # update GUI now
>
>    LoadVersionFiles gCurrentProject
>
>    # boot InDesign and edit
>
>    launch (tNewLocalPath) with (the uInDesignPath of this stack)  # expand to 
> handle other file types
>
>
> end Checkout
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Re: revCopyFile slow?

[Maarten Koopmans]

I'll just write a copyfile function in LC then. That should be near-C
speed, assuming open/read/write are implemented close to the os.

Thanks, Maarten

On Friday, April 8, 2011, Mark Schonewille
 wrote:
> Hi Maarten,
>
> Yes, it is slow, because the underlying AppleScript needs to be compiled 
> every time it is used. For big files, it might be useful, but if you have to 
> copy many small files, it is a disaster. The safest and quickes option is 
> probably to use the cp shell command.
>
> --
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>
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>
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> On 8 apr 2011, at 17:38, Maarten Koopmans wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> I just started using revCopyFile, and well, on my Mac it felt. slow.
>> Is that normal? Any faster way to do it - or just write my own in2out file
>> copy?
>>
>> --Maarten
>
>
>
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revCopyFile slow?

[Maarten Koopmans]

Hi,

I just started using revCopyFile, and well, on my Mac it felt. slow.
Is that normal? Any faster way to do it - or just write my own in2out file
copy?

--Maarten
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Re: OAuth, dropbox

[Maarten Koopmans]

Hi Mark,

That still requires oauth, but more importantly, it's not supported by
dropbox yet. Guess I'll have to write my own SDK.

--Maarten

On Monday, April 4, 2011, Mark Schonewille
 wrote:
> Hi Maarten,
>
> If you can't use an SDK, you can still resort to the web api.
> https://www.dropbox.com/developers/web_docs
> This should work from within revBrowser for example.
>
> --
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>
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>
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>
> On 4 apr 2011, at 19:28, Maarten Koopmans wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> The downside of Livecode is that I haven't found an OAuth library,
>> where I can build dropbox integration on top of. Think downloading
>> files from dropbox to your iOS device or so.
>>
>> Has anybody already started this journey, bevause it looks like there
>> are dragons if you can't use a SDK.
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Maarten
>
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OAuth, dropbox

[Maarten Koopmans]

Hi,

The downside of Livecode is that I haven't found an OAuth library,
where I can build dropbox integration on top of. Think downloading
files from dropbox to your iOS device or so.

Has anybody already started this journey, bevause it looks like there
are dragons if you can't use a SDK.

Thanks,

Maarten

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Re: DELETE, PUT http

[Maarten Koopmans]

On Monday, April 4, 2011, Dave Cragg  wrote:
>
> On 4 Apr 2011, at 13:36, Trevor DeVore wrote:
>
>> On Sun, Apr 3, 2011 at 3:50 AM, Maarten Koopmans >> wrote:
>>
>>> I there a way to have LIvecode do PUT and DELETE via http/https,
>>> hopefully witj digest authentication? So you can use the UI tools to
>>> integrate with REST services? I see great chanches here :-)
>>>
>>
>> PUT and DELETE arel supported by libURL.
>
> Now I feel embarrassed. :-)
>
> Please ignore my earlier mail. Don't know what I was thinking.
>
> The only comment I can add is that PUT and DELETE for http were never 
> extensively tested when added to libUrl. This was because so few http servers 
> support these commands. The "Method not allowed" response that Trevor shows 
> in his other mail is typical for most servers.
>

But put and delete are very handy when you have a rest service,
especially when you control the web service :-)

Thanks, Maarten

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Re: Fit a card to PDF

[Maarten Koopmans]

Duh
http://lessons.runrev.com/spaces/lessons/buckets/784/lessons/29177-How-to-create-PDFs-using-LiveCode

On Mon, Apr 4, 2011 at 4:16 PM, Maarten Koopmans  wrote:

> Hi,
>
> I have a card of r.g. 1024x768 that I print to pdf (awesome) but it
> only shows partially; a matter of scaling. How do you scale the printing of
> your card to a PDF so that it precisely maps to say, an A4 PDF?
>
> --Maarten
>
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Fit a card to PDF

[Maarten Koopmans]

Hi,

I have a card of r.g. 1024x768 that I print to pdf (awesome) but it only
shows partially; a matter of scaling. How do you scale the printing of your
card to a PDF so that it precisely maps to say, an A4 PDF?

--Maarten
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Re: DELETE, PUT http

[Maarten Koopmans]

Hoi Mark,

I'll have to add that myself then

--Maarten

On Sunday, April 3, 2011, Mark Schonewille
 wrote:
> Hoi Maarten,
>
> POST and GET are supported. PUT and DELETE are not. Use LC's put url command 
> to send data using the GET method. Use the post url command to send data 
> using the POST method.
>
> POST example:
> put "x=1&y=2" into myData
> post myData to url "http://domain.com/bla.php";
>
> GET example:
> put "http://domain.com/bla.php?x=1&y=2"; into myUrl
> put url myUrl into myDataReturned
>
> Keep in mind that the "put" command in the second line of the last example 
> has nothing to do with the PUT method used to connect to PHP (or iRev for 
> that matter).
>
> --
> Best regards,
>
> Mark Schonewille
>
> Economy-x-Talk Consulting and Software Engineering
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>
> New: Download the Installer Maker Plugin 1.6 for LiveCode here 
> http://qery.us/ce
>
> On 3 apr 2011, at 16:14, Richard Gaskin wrote:
>
>> Maarten Koopmans wrote:
>>
>>> I there a way to have LIvecode do PUT and DELETE via http/https,
>>> hopefully witj digest authentication? So you can use the UI tools to
>>> integrate with REST services? I see great chanches here :-)
>>
>> "PUT" is well supported in addition to "GET" - check out the entry for "PUT" 
>> in the dictionary.
>>
>> AFAIK "DELETE" is only natively supported for FTP, but I would love to be 
>> wrong on that if anyone here knows otherwise.
>>
>>
>>> Suddenly firing a lot of questions, because after years of using
>>> LC/runrev for small things I want to do some more heavy lifting.
>>> Coming from a Scala/Scheme/Rebol background I get the event model, but
>>> I need to learn some library tricks (as with any new language) and get
>>> a model of how to do some larger scale programming.
>>
>> My dream would be to see Rebol offered as a subsystem within LiveCode, so we 
>> get the best of both worlds:  LC's rich GUI model with Rebol's unmatched 
>> extensibility.
>>
>> --
>> Richard Gaskin
>> Fourth World
>> LiveCode training and consulting: http://www.fourthworld.com
>> Webzine for LiveCode developers: http://www.LiveCodeJournal.com
>> LiveCode Journal blog: http://LiveCodejournal.com/blog.irv
>
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Re: The LC way for code libraries?

[Maarten Koopmans]

Thanks, that was very insightful.

On Sunday, April 3, 2011, Richard Gaskin  wrote:
> Maarten Koopmans wrote:
>
>
> What's a good way to create and store a non-UI code library in a LC
> project (a.k.a. "business logic")? Say I'd want to implement a WebDAV
> client, which is a back-and-forth kind of flow. Or anu other protocol
> will do as a mental model
>
>  Where would you store all the support functions for the protocol?
> Right now I can only see this happening on the stack level, but there
> I'm still fairly clueless.
>
>
> If you think you'll be using such a library in other projects you'll 
> definitely have an easier time reusing it as a library.
>
> You could embed the library as a substack, but then keeping it updated every 
> time you enhance it is a drag, so I tend to prefer to keep libraries in their 
> own stack files, loaded at startup from a folder named "Components" I keep at 
> the same level as the executable.
>
> This article may help you get started if you haven't read it already:
> <http://www.fourthworld.com/embassy/articles/revolution_message_path.html>
>
> --
>  Richard Gaskin
>  Fourth World
>  LiveCode training and consulting: http://www.fourthworld.com
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>  LiveCode Journal blog: http://LiveCodejournal.com/blog.irv
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Re: The LC way for code libraries?

[Maarten Koopmans]

Thanks Missed that in plowing through all the
dics/dictionary/getting my head around LC

--Maarten

On Sunday, April 3, 2011, John Dixon  wrote:
>
>
>
>
>> From: maarten.koopm...@gmail.com
>
>> Simple question for people here, but something you wonder when you
>> come from a non-LC code environment.
>>
>> What's a good way to create and store a non-UI code library in a LC
>> project (a.k.a. "business logic")? Say I'd want to implement a WebDAV
>> client, which is a back-and-forth kind of flow. Or anu other protocol
>> will do as a mental model
>>
>>  Where would you store all the support functions for the protocol?
>> Right now I can only see this happening on the stack level, but there
>> I'm still fairly clueless.
>
> Have a look at page 166 of the 'User Guide' ... all about creating code 
> libraries
>
> be well
>
> Dixie
>
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DELETE, PUT http

[Maarten Koopmans]

Hi,

I there a way to have LIvecode do PUT and DELETE via http/https,
hopefully witj digest authentication? So you can use the UI tools to
integrate with REST services? I see great chanches here :-)

Suddenly firing a lot of questions, because after years of using
LC/runrev for small things I want to do some more heavy lifting.
Coming from a Scala/Scheme/Rebol background I get the event model, but
I need to learn some library tricks (as with any new language) and get
a model of how to do some larger scale programming. So far, things
look pretty good with LC. Once I get it compketely into my system I'll
start really using the mobile version as wel. But... Step at a time.

Thanks (again),

Maarten

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The LC way for code libraries?

[Maarten Koopmans]

Hi,

Simple question for people here, but something you wonder when you
come from a non-LC code environment.

What's a good way to create and store a non-UI code library in a LC
project (a.k.a. "business logic")? Say I'd want to implement a WebDAV
client, which is a back-and-forth kind of flow. Or anu other protocol
will do as a mental model

 Where would you store all the support functions for the protocol?
Right now I can only see this happening on the stack level, but there
I'm still fairly clueless.

Thanks,

Maarten

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Re: Editable page

[Maarten Koopmans]

I want users to be able to put a limited set of controls, like images,
shapes, text, backdrop on a page. I have noticed that the size events,
the choose [...] tool, "drag me" in mouseUp, go a long way. Things
like resizing, setting the fonts etc. also look feasible. So a simple
toolbar, te choose tool command and lockimg of some core objects
(mainly the ones that control the toolbar)... Looks like it will get
me "there".

I posted a similar question to the forum and got a sample stack that
put me on the right track - normally I don't cross-post but the
use-livecode list seemed a bit more active.

--Maarten

On Saturday, April 2, 2011,   wrote:
> LiveCode is more than powerful and flexible enough to do what you want. 
> Simple, to boot.
>
>
> The problem is that you might give away too much control, so that the whole 
> app could be trashed by your users since you either have to give access to 
> IDE tools, or permit only choices from a menu of properties, say. 
> Fortunately, you can lock the core objects.
>
>
> Do you want to give just a limited, preset number of options to the user when 
> a new control is created, or allow all properties to be adjusted? If the 
> former, I can think of a few cute gadgets that would be fun to implement. 
> Write back...
>
>
> Craig Newman
>
>
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Maarten Koopmans 
> To: use-livecode@lists.runrev.com 
> Sent: Sat, Apr 2, 2011 5:25 am
> Subject: Editable page
>
>
> Hi,
>
> I have a stack where I want the user to be able to add objects ((e.g.
> images, lines, text). I can set the tool to [ ... ]. Think an
> "editable page". But my problem then is (let's take an image for
> example):
>
> - how do I make it so that the user can add an image to the placeholder
> - move the image
> - resize it
>
> Same for lines, texts, ... any ui element, really - I am trying to
> create a mock-up tool.
>
> My thoughts were be that I:
>
> a) have the user add the object to the the stack
> b) dynamically attach handlers to the newly created object that
> implement any desired object-specific behavior (i.e. move. (reset
> image source, crop, ...)
>
> How do I add the handlers dynamically (I really haven't been able to
> find it), and moreover, where do I store these templates in the
> overall stack.
>
> I think I haven't wrapped my head around the LiveCode model to do
> these more dynamic things, *any* help would be greatly appreciated!!!
>
> Thanks, Maarten
>
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Editable page

[Maarten Koopmans]

Hi,

I have a stack where I want the user to be able to add objects ((e.g.
images, lines, text). I can set the tool to [ ... ]. Think an
"editable page". But my problem then is (let's take an image for
example):

- how do I make it so that the user can add an image to the placeholder
- move the image
- resize it

Same for lines, texts, ... any ui element, really - I am trying to
create a mock-up tool.

My thoughts were be that I:

a) have the user add the object to the the stack
b) dynamically attach handlers to the newly created object that
implement any desired object-specific behavior (i.e. move. (reset
image source, crop, ...)

How do I add the handlers dynamically (I really haven't been able to
find it), and moreover, where do I store these templates in the
overall stack.

I think I haven't wrapped my head around the LiveCode model to do
these more dynamic things, *any* help would be greatly appreciated!!!

Thanks, Maarten

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