[ANN] Release 8.0.0

[Peter TB Brett]

Dear list members,

We are pleased to announce the release of LiveCode 8.0.0, the first 
stable release of LiveCode 8.


Read more about LiveCode 8 here:
https://livecode.com/introducing-livecode-8/

Getting the Release
===
You can get the release at https://downloads.livecode.com/livecode/ or 
via the automatic updater.


Release Contents

LiveCode 8 has a host of exciting new features.

Simplify design with widgets

The LiveCode engine now supports custom controls called "widgets", and 
LiveCode now includes several widgets that simplify creating mobile apps.


Extend LiveCode with LiveCode Builder
-
Enhance LiveCode with your own new controls and libraries without any C 
or C++ knowledge by using the new LiveCode Builder programming language.


Deploy to the browser with HTML5

LiveCode standalones now run in a web browser, using a LiveCode engine 
that runs as JavaScript.


The full release notes are available from:
http://downloads.livecode.com/livecode/8_0_0/LiveCodeNotes-8_0_0.pdf

LiveCode 8.0.0 contains an additional 27 bug fixes since the LiveCode 
8.0.0 RC 1 release.


Known issues

* HTML5 standalones do not currently work when they contain extensions 
with dependencies


* 64-bit standalones for Mac OS X do not have support for audio 
recording or the revVideoGrabber external


Feedback


Please report any bugs encountered on our Bugzilla at 
http://quality.livecode.com/


We have a forum available for discussing LiveCode Builder at
http://forums.livecode.com/viewforum.php?f=93


Have fun!

The LiveCode Team

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[ANN] Release 8.0.0

[Andrew Meit]

Really, wow….the guide….r

Using many screenshots of the old dictionary within the new dictionary/guide!
Using a screenshot of an ancient marketing model: Revolution 3.0 for the forums!
There is no toc to navigate the guide, sometime pretty basic for a guide.
Is the screenshots current for the current Revonline?
IDE screenshots in the guide still use an older version of LC!
OS themes screenshots in guide is way off too!
Wait, drawers and sheets have been removed long ago in Mac OS so why in the 
guide??
Stack decorations, OMG, showing a ten yr old screenshot!!
The list goes on and on….

I am at lost for words….or better not say anything to get flamed or get 
elegantly get chewed on ;-)

Kevin, this is the best guide to give in the box — for those who paid 1k or 
newbies ??

Andrew
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Re: [ANN] Release 8.0.0

[Mike Kerner]

WOOT!  WOOT!

On Wed, May 4, 2016 at 10:12 AM, Peter TB Brett 
wrote:

> Dear list members,
>
> We are pleased to announce the release of LiveCode 8.0.0, the first stable
> release of LiveCode 8.
>
> Read more about LiveCode 8 here:
> https://livecode.com/introducing-livecode-8/
>
> Getting the Release
> ===
> You can get the release at https://downloads.livecode.com/livecode/ or
> via the automatic updater.
>
> Release Contents
> 
> LiveCode 8 has a host of exciting new features.
>
> Simplify design with widgets
> 
> The LiveCode engine now supports custom controls called "widgets", and
> LiveCode now includes several widgets that simplify creating mobile apps.
>
> Extend LiveCode with LiveCode Builder
> -
> Enhance LiveCode with your own new controls and libraries without any C or
> C++ knowledge by using the new LiveCode Builder programming language.
>
> Deploy to the browser with HTML5
> 
> LiveCode standalones now run in a web browser, using a LiveCode engine
> that runs as JavaScript.
>
> The full release notes are available from:
> http://downloads.livecode.com/livecode/8_0_0/LiveCodeNotes-8_0_0.pdf
>
> LiveCode 8.0.0 contains an additional 27 bug fixes since the LiveCode
> 8.0.0 RC 1 release.
>
> Known issues
> 
> * HTML5 standalones do not currently work when they contain extensions
> with dependencies
>
> * 64-bit standalones for Mac OS X do not have support for audio recording
> or the revVideoGrabber external
>
> Feedback
> 
>
> Please report any bugs encountered on our Bugzilla at
> http://quality.livecode.com/
>
> We have a forum available for discussing LiveCode Builder at
> http://forums.livecode.com/viewforum.php?f=93
>
>
> Have fun!
>
> The LiveCode Team
>
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Re: [ANN] Release 8.0.0

[Dave Kilroy]

Very well done all of you :D

And what a day to do it on! (the force strong with those people in
Edinburgh)

Dave



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Re: [ANN] Release 8.0.0

[Bob Sneidar]

They were just waiting for me to finally pay for an indy license.

Bob S


On May 4, 2016, at 06:49 , Dave Kilroy 
mailto:d...@applicationinsight.com>> wrote:

Very well done all of you :D

And what a day to do it on! (the force strong with those people in
Edinburgh)

Dave

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Re: [ANN] Release 8.0.0

[Peter TB Brett]

On 04/05/2016 15:28, Bob Sneidar wrote:

They were just waiting for me to finally pay for an indy license.


Thank you for subscribing -- it'll help us continue to make LiveCode 
better for all our users!


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Re: [ANN] Release 8.0.0

[Roger Eller]

Sorry, but I still can not use this for production work. This bug is STILL
preventing use in my work environment.

[Bug 17374] Database errors appear each time LC 8.0.0 is opened in Win7-x64
in Fusion

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/54789013/LC_errors/8.0.0-GM1-error.png




Roger Eller
Graphics Systems Analyst

803 North Maple Street P: 864.967.1625
Simpsonville, SC 29681 C: 864.908.0337
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On Wed, May 4, 2016 at 10:12 AM, Peter TB Brett 
wrote:

> Dear list members,
>
> We are pleased to announce the release of LiveCode 8.0.0, the first stable
> release of LiveCode 8.
>
> Read more about LiveCode 8 here:
> https://livecode.com/introducing-livecode-8/
>
> Getting the Release
> ===
> You can get the release at https://downloads.livecode.com/livecode/ or
> via the automatic updater.
>
> Release Contents
> 
> LiveCode 8 has a host of exciting new features.
>
> Simplify design with widgets
> 
> The LiveCode engine now supports custom controls called "widgets", and
> LiveCode now includes several widgets that simplify creating mobile apps.
>
> Extend LiveCode with LiveCode Builder
> -
> Enhance LiveCode with your own new controls and libraries without any C or
> C++ knowledge by using the new LiveCode Builder programming language.
>
> Deploy to the browser with HTML5
> 
> LiveCode standalones now run in a web browser, using a LiveCode engine
> that runs as JavaScript.
>
> The full release notes are available from:
> http://downloads.livecode.com/livecode/8_0_0/LiveCodeNotes-8_0_0.pdf
>
> LiveCode 8.0.0 contains an additional 27 bug fixes since the LiveCode
> 8.0.0 RC 1 release.
>
> Known issues
> 
> * HTML5 standalones do not currently work when they contain extensions
> with dependencies
>
> * 64-bit standalones for Mac OS X do not have support for audio recording
> or the revVideoGrabber external
>
> Feedback
> 
>
> Please report any bugs encountered on our Bugzilla at
> http://quality.livecode.com/
>
> We have a forum available for discussing LiveCode Builder at
> http://forums.livecode.com/viewforum.php?f=93
>
>
> Have fun!
>
> The LiveCode Team
>
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Re: [ANN] Release 8.0.0

[jameshale]

Great news!

Congrats to the team, well done.

But as Colombo would say, there's just one more thing.

Looking at the pricing page on the website you need to scroll to the bottom
to see the open source version.
Really there should be three columns, GPL (or Community), Indy, Business 
With the features and benefits (and omissions) also listed to include GPL
(or Community).

I supported the kickstarter because of open source.
I believe it should be there as an equally viable option at the same level
as the paid for licenses, not hidden at the bottom of the page.
I am proud LC went open source, I would like LC to show they are proud too.

James



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Re: [ANN] Release 8.0.0

[James Hale]

Hmm, does this mean that LC6 and LC7 are now eol. (Apart from bug fixes or will 
these also cease)?

James

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Re: [ANN] Release 8.0.0

[Richard Gaskin]

jameshale wrote:

> Looking at the pricing page on the website you need to scroll to
> the bottom to see the open source version.
> Really there should be three columns, GPL (or Community), Indy,
> Business
> With the features and benefits (and omissions) also listed to include
> GPL (or Community).
>
> I supported the kickstarter because of open source.
> I believe it should be there as an equally viable option at the same
> level as the paid for licenses, not hidden at the bottom of the page.
> I am proud LC went open source, I would like LC to show they are
> proud too.

Me too.

Last year I proposed to Kevin that we split the .com and .org sites so 
that each can best serve their respective audiences.


With the launch of v8.0 this has now begun - see:
https://livecode.org/

What's in place today is just the first steps for both sites.  All web 
sites are an ongoing process, and there are a number of details 
livecode.com and livecode.org will each need as we move forward.


One of the first steps is to make sure that folks looking for LiveCode 
Community Edition can find it easily.  I've been corresponding with the 
web team there this morning to make links to .org more discoverable, but 
at the moment you can find links LiveCode.org in the footer at the 
bottom of every page at LiveCode.com ("Open source project").


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Re: [ANN] Release 8.0.0

[Paul Dupuis]

On 5/4/2016 11:11 AM, James Hale wrote:
> Hmm, does this mean that LC6 and LC7 are now eol. (Apart from bug fixes or 
> will these also cease)?
>

I am pretty sure that is exactly what this means. LC 6.7.11 and LC 7.1.4
are the last maintenance releases in those versions. LiveCode has stated
on these lists a few times that with the release of 8, maintenance on
older releases would come to an end.

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Re: [ANN] Release 8.0.0

[Jim Lambert]

LC Team,

Congratulations on the release of LC 8.0 - a significant achievement.
Bravo.

Thanks,
Jim Lambert

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Re: [ANN] Release 8.0.0

[Andrew Meit]

I see now that the lc user guide was shoehorned into the dictionary without 
considering if the screenshots should  be updated…and yes the formal LC user 
guide has a toc.

> On May 4, 2016, at 11:27 AM, Andrew Meit  wrote:
> 
> Really, wow….the guide….r
> 
> Using many screenshots of the old dictionary within the new dictionary/guide!
> Using a screenshot of an ancient marketing model: Revolution 3.0 for the 
> forums!
> There is no toc to navigate the guide, sometime pretty basic for a guide.
> Is the screenshots current for the current Revonline?
> IDE screenshots in the guide still use an older version of LC!
> OS themes screenshots in guide is way off too!
> Wait, drawers and sheets have been removed long ago in Mac OS so why in the 
> guide??
> Stack decorations, OMG, showing a ten yr old screenshot!!
> The list goes on and on….
> 
> I am at lost for words….or better not say anything to get flamed or get 
> elegantly get chewed on ;-)
> 
> Kevin, this is the best guide to give in the box — for those who paid 1k or 
> newbies ??
> 
> Andrew


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Re: [ANN] Release 8.0.0

[Mike Kerner]

Announcement is out in a different thread, too.

On Wed, May 4, 2016 at 11:27 AM, Paul Dupuis  wrote:

> On 5/4/2016 11:11 AM, James Hale wrote:
> > Hmm, does this mean that LC6 and LC7 are now eol. (Apart from bug fixes
> or will these also cease)?
> >
>
> I am pretty sure that is exactly what this means. LC 6.7.11 and LC 7.1.4
> are the last maintenance releases in those versions. LiveCode has stated
> on these lists a few times that with the release of 8, maintenance on
> older releases would come to an end.
>
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Re: [ANN] Release 8.0.0

[Richard Gaskin]

James Hale wrote:

> Hmm, does this mean that LC6 and LC7 are now eol. (Apart from bug
> fixes or will these also cease)?

Yep, just as they've been telling us for nearly a year, once v8.0 is 
released the massive technical and financial burden of maintaining three 
separate versions simultaneously is gone.


V6 and v7 each served a useful place along the road to where we are now 
(mostly for isolating the deep changes for Cocoa and Unicode, 
respectively), but their purpose has been served and now it's time to 
get back to a more normal development path.


At this point v6 and v7 have joined v5 and v4 and all other earlier 
versions, having reached sustainable end-of-life, still available for 
download but no longer maintained.


Bug fixes and enhancements going forward will go into the v8.x series 
and beyond


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Re: [ANN] Release 8.0.0

[RM]

Congratulations.

Richmond.

On 4.05.2016 17:12, Peter TB Brett wrote:

Dear list members,

We are pleased to announce the release of LiveCode 8.0.0, the first 
stable release of LiveCode 8.


Read more about LiveCode 8 here:
https://livecode.com/introducing-livecode-8/

Getting the Release
===
You can get the release at https://downloads.livecode.com/livecode/ or 
via the automatic updater.


Release Contents

LiveCode 8 has a host of exciting new features.

Simplify design with widgets

The LiveCode engine now supports custom controls called "widgets", and 
LiveCode now includes several widgets that simplify creating mobile apps.


Extend LiveCode with LiveCode Builder
-
Enhance LiveCode with your own new controls and libraries without any 
C or C++ knowledge by using the new LiveCode Builder programming 
language.


Deploy to the browser with HTML5

LiveCode standalones now run in a web browser, using a LiveCode engine 
that runs as JavaScript.


The full release notes are available from:
http://downloads.livecode.com/livecode/8_0_0/LiveCodeNotes-8_0_0.pdf

LiveCode 8.0.0 contains an additional 27 bug fixes since the LiveCode 
8.0.0 RC 1 release.


Known issues

* HTML5 standalones do not currently work when they contain extensions 
with dependencies


* 64-bit standalones for Mac OS X do not have support for audio 
recording or the revVideoGrabber external


Feedback


Please report any bugs encountered on our Bugzilla at 
http://quality.livecode.com/


We have a forum available for discussing LiveCode Builder at
http://forums.livecode.com/viewforum.php?f=93


Have fun!

The LiveCode Team

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Re: [ANN] Release 8.0.0

[Paul Dupuis]

On 5/4/2016 12:06 PM, Richard Gaskin wrote:
> At this point v6 and v7 have joined v5 and v4 and all other earlier
> versions, having reached sustainable end-of-life, still available for
> download but no longer maintained.

Richard just pointed out another excellent value of LiveCode (at least
to me) and that is the ability to access, download, and activate past
version (presumably if you have correct current licenses). This has been
extremely valuable for testing on more than one occasion. I also do not
know of that many commercial software development tool companies that do
this.


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Re: [ANN] Release 8.0.0

[Ali Lloyd]

Hi Andrew,
We did indeed consider if the screenshots should be updated. Here is a bug
report:
http://quality.livecode.com/show_bug.cgi?id=16610
which led to the changes that need to be made being detailed in GitHub
issues:
https://github.com/livecode/livecode-ide/issues?utf8=%E2%9C%93&q=is%3Aissue+is%3Aopen+Guides%3A

Unfortunately we didn't have time to actually implement these updates,
other than the quick scan and minor revisions I made here (which themselves
took quite a while):
https://github.com/livecode/livecode-ide/pull/728/files

With the limited resources available to us, we decided that converting the
guide to Markdown and putting them onto GitHub, incorporating them into the
in-product dictionary and automatically generating a user guide pdf from
those source files would be a much more productive way to advance the
current state of the user guides - in particular we can accept community
contributions to those guides which will (almost) immediately be reflected
in the product. A community-led drive to improve all of the guides has been
vaguely in the works for a while now. In the meantime we are trying to
ensure the guides are incrementally improved by suggesting code changing
pull requests also come with corresponding guide changes if applicable.

If there are any issues with the guides that are not present in the list of
issues above, please submit bug reports for them.





On Wed, May 4, 2016 at 4:37 PM Andrew Meit  wrote:

> I see now that the lc user guide was shoehorned into the dictionary
> without considering if the screenshots should  be updated…and yes the
> formal LC user guide has a toc.
>
> > On May 4, 2016, at 11:27 AM, Andrew Meit  wrote:
> >
> > Really, wow….the guide….r
> >
> > Using many screenshots of the old dictionary within the new
> dictionary/guide!
> > Using a screenshot of an ancient marketing model: Revolution 3.0 for the
> forums!
> > There is no toc to navigate the guide, sometime pretty basic for a guide.
> > Is the screenshots current for the current Revonline?
> > IDE screenshots in the guide still use an older version of LC!
> > OS themes screenshots in guide is way off too!
> > Wait, drawers and sheets have been removed long ago in Mac OS so why in
> the guide??
> > Stack decorations, OMG, showing a ten yr old screenshot!!
> > The list goes on and on….
> >
> > I am at lost for words….or better not say anything to get flamed or get
> elegantly get chewed on ;-)
> >
> > Kevin, this is the best guide to give in the box — for those who paid 1k
> or newbies ??
> >
> > Andrew
>
>
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Re: [ANN] Release 8.0.0

[Warren Samples]

On 05/04/2016 09:12 AM, Peter TB Brett wrote:

Dear list members,

We are pleased to announce the release of LiveCode 8.0.0, the first
stable release of LiveCode 8.



I'm running openSUSE Leap 42.1 here and finding that Livecode 8 will not 
launch. The installer worked properly. Launching LiveCode displays the 
splashscreen followed either by a rapid crash (IDE itself never 
displays) or a permanent hang at the splashscreen. Running it from the 
command line results in this:


"Use of deprecated SAXv1 function setDocumentLocator
*** Error in 
`/home/warren/.runrev/components/livecodecommunity-8.0.0.x86_64/livecodecommunity.x86_64': 
free(): invalid next size (fast): 0x03d3b820 ***" at the top of 
the full backtrace.


I had been running openSUSE 13.2 until recently and hadn't had this kind 
of difficulty with the dps and the RC of version 8. Under Leap, however, 
I get this same undesired behavior with the  v8 RC. LC versions 6 and 7 
work fine.


Deleting prefs and licenses has no effect.

Any thoughts on what I might be able to install to correct this? (Or, 
what LiveCode might be expecting to find which may or may not be 
available for installation in my distro...)


Warren

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Re: [ANN] Release 8.0.0

[Warren Samples]

On 05/05/2016 04:55 PM, Warren Samples wrote:


I'm running openSUSE Leap 42.1 here and finding that Livecode 8 will not
launch. The installer worked properly. Launching LiveCode displays the
splashscreen followed either by a rapid crash (IDE itself never
displays) or a permanent hang at the splashscreen. Running it from the
command line results in this:

"Use of deprecated SAXv1 function setDocumentLocator
*** Error in
`/home/warren/.runrev/components/livecodecommunity-8.0.0.x86_64/livecodecommunity.x86_64':
free(): invalid next size (fast): 0x03d3b820 ***" at the top of
the full backtrace.

I had been running openSUSE 13.2 until recently and hadn't had this kind
of difficulty with the dps and the RC of version 8. Under Leap, however,
I get this same undesired behavior with the  v8 RC. LC versions 6 and 7
work fine.




I spoke too soon :( Earlier versions are launching but they crash when 
selecting items from the top row of the menu bar. This has the same 
appearance of -- maybe the same underlying cause? -- an issue some of us 
had had with early versions of 64bit Linux builds (in case that helps!).


Warren

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[ANN] Release 8.0.0 DP 15

[Peter TB Brett]

Dear list members,

We are pleased to announce the release of LiveCode 8.0.0 DP 15.

Developer Preview Release
=
Warning: this is not a stable release.  Please ensure you back up your 
stacks before testing them.


*IMPORTANT*: It is especially vital that you back up your stacks before 
testing them in 8.0 DP 15, as there has been a change to the save 
command in DP 13. The IDE has been updated to accommodate this change, 
but we strongly recommend making back-ups in case there is unforeseen 
data loss.


*IMPORTANT*: Your stacks may appear different on first opening in 8.0 DP 
15, due to the improvement in desktop OS theming introduced in DP 14. 
The theming can be reverted to legacy on a per-object basis using the 
new "theme" property. For more information, see the release notes.


Getting the Release
===
You can get the release at https://downloads.livecode.com/livecode/ or 
via the automatic updater.


Release Contents

64-bit Mac OS X deployment
--
You can now deploy apps as Mac OS X 64-bit programs.  See the "Mac 
Deployment Guide" in the IDE for more information.


Better control editing
--
The outline and handles of selected control are now shown on the top 
layer, even if other controls are on top of it.


Multiple fonts in HTML5 standalones
---
You can now include and use your own fonts in HTML5 standalones.

Default scripts for widgets
---
Widget developers can now provide a default script.  It's used to 
initialise the widget's script the first time the user edits the widget 
in the script editor.



...and 45 bug fixes!

Known issues

* Windows 10 theming causes display issues with the dictionary, script 
editor and property inspector


* CEF Browser (and therefore the dictionary and browser widget) does not 
currently work on 32-bit Linux


* HTML5 standalones do not currently work when they contain extensions 
with dependencies


* 64-bit standalones for Mac OS X do not have support for audio 
recording or the revVideoGrabber external


Feedback

LiveCode 8 is still in development, so we'd love to hear any feedback 
you have on it.  There are a number of features that we'd like to 
implement but aren't ready yet, and the existing features are subject to 
change during development - we can't guarantee that extensions written 
in Developer Previews will continue to work the same way in later versions.


Please report any bugs encountered on our Bugzilla at 
http://quality.livecode.com/


We have a forum available for discussing LiveCode Builder at
http://forums.livecode.com/viewforum.php?f=93


Have fun!

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[ANN] Release 8.0.0 RC 1

[Peter TB Brett]

Dear list members,

We are pleased to announce the release of LiveCode 8.0.0 RC 1.

Getting the Release
===
You can get the release at https://downloads.livecode.com/livecode/ or 
via the automatic updater.


Release Contents

LiveCode 8 has a host of exciting new features.

Simplify design with widgets

The LiveCode engine now supports custom controls called "widgets", and 
LiveCode now includes several widgets that simplify creating mobile apps.


Extend LiveCode with LiveCode Builder
-
Enhance LiveCode with your own new controls and libraries without any C 
or C++ knowledge by using the new LiveCode Builder programming language.


Deploy to the browser with HTML5

LiveCode standalones now run in a web browser, using a LiveCode engine 
that runs as JavaScript.


The full release notes are available from:
http://downloads.livecode.com/livecode/8_0_0/LiveCodeNotes-8_0_0_rc_1.pdf

LiveCode 8.0.0 RC 1 contains an additional 148 bug fixes since the 
LiveCode 8.0.0 DP 16 release.


Known issues

* iOS deployment issue when deploying using a version of Xcode older 
than Xcode 7.3.  See bug 17368 for a workaround: 
http://quality.livecode.com/show_bug.cgi?id=17368


* iOS codesigning issue on OS X 10.11.4.  See bug 17292 for a 
workaround: http://quality.livecode.com/show_bug.cgi?id=17292


* HTML5 standalones do not currently work when they contain extensions 
with dependencies


* 64-bit standalones for Mac OS X do not have support for audio 
recording or the revVideoGrabber external


Feedback


Please report any bugs encountered on our Bugzilla at 
http://quality.livecode.com/


We have a forum available for discussing LiveCode Builder at
http://forums.livecode.com/viewforum.php?f=93


Have fun!

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[ANN] Release 8.0.0 , project browser

[Andrew Meit]

Please, please anyone know how to hack the colors used in the project browser 
tree? 
1. I can barely read the white on blue, needs to be dark grey/black bkgnd
2. all the light grey text needs to be darker or black
3. the eye is hideous, dark grey/black please
4. I can barely see the lock when disabled
5. icons are too small
6. white on blue for the numbers, need black on white please
7. A Thicker font, this thin font is too much for me to see the font.
8. the +/- controls are hard to see too, white on grey, too tiny

There needs a theme editor for the project browser,…soon, very soon.
Off to take some meds from a headache from 3hrs using the project browser.
No, this is not a joke, am legally blind.

Someone have an alternative project browser? I will trade some of my art for or 
to do something.

Andrew
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Re: [ANN] Release 8.0.0 DP 15

[William Prothero]

Peter:
I got a notice that Monte’s externals come with Indy licenses now. Is there a 
link where we can download them?
BTW, congrats on DP15! The widgets are going to be a game changer for LC as 
will the incorporation of Monte’s externals as widgets.

Bill

William Prothero, Ph.D.
University of California, Santa Barbara, Emeritus
proth...@earthednet.org




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Re: [ANN] Release 8.0.0 DP 15

[RM]

Well; there's a funny thing . . . when I started up LiveCode 8.0 DP 15 
it offered to upgrade me

to LiveCode 7.1.2 RC 3.

I see that on Linux 64 bit the Dictionary still "isn't" but as that is 
projected to be sorted out for

the first Release candidate I'm not fussed.

What IS worrying is that all the Widgets from the revTools stack have 
vanished.


Funny, very funny; that only happened the first time I started LiveCode 
8.0 DP 15.


Richmond.



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Re: [ANN] Release 8.0.0 DP 15

[RM]

On 22.02.2016 21:40, RM wrote:
Well; there's a funny thing . . . when I started up LiveCode 8.0 DP 15 
it offered to upgrade me

to LiveCode 7.1.2 RC 3.

I see that on Linux 64 bit the Dictionary still "isn't" but as that is 
projected to be sorted out for

the first Release candidate I'm not fussed.

What IS worrying is that all the Widgets from the revTools stack have 
vanished.


Funny, very funny; that only happened the first time I started 
LiveCode 8.0 DP 15.


I was wrong: BUG report number 16975



Richmond.





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Re: [ANN] Release 8.0.0 DP 15

[Ali Lloyd]

Do you have widgets ticked in the show controls submenu of the tools
palette settings?

On Mon, Feb 22, 2016 at 7:48 PM RM  wrote:

>
>
> On 22.02.2016 21:40, RM wrote:
> > Well; there's a funny thing . . . when I started up LiveCode 8.0 DP 15
> > it offered to upgrade me
> > to LiveCode 7.1.2 RC 3.
> >
> > I see that on Linux 64 bit the Dictionary still "isn't" but as that is
> > projected to be sorted out for
> > the first Release candidate I'm not fussed.
> >
> > What IS worrying is that all the Widgets from the revTools stack have
> > vanished.
> >
> > Funny, very funny; that only happened the first time I started
> > LiveCode 8.0 DP 15.
>
> I was wrong: BUG report number 16975
>
> >
> > Richmond.
> >
> >
>
>
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Re: [ANN] Release 8.0.0 DP 15

[[-hh]]

> Peter B. wrote:
> Dear list members, We are pleased to announce the release of
> LiveCode 8.0.0 DP 15 ... and 45 bug fixes!

What a british understatement for a preview, that's more
a release candidate (we are still in dot-dot state).

Especially the HTML5 part. I'm testing since three hours:
= The dp9-speed is back!!!
= Firefox 44 runs again (and pretty fast).
= Multiple fonts are available.
= The textsystem (measurements) seems close to the IDE now.
= Moves are smooth and look even more exact.
This is an essential progress.

Peter, iOS externals here, iOS externals there, I support that too.

But you and all you others of the team that worked with you in
that HTML5 part, you are *my* heros.

THANK YOU SO MUCH.
The more I read the source code the more I was impressed.
This progress and your ability of solving really difficult problems
is demonstrating again that the HTML5 part is worth the separate
license.

Good bye use-list (will still read the list), good bye sleep tonight,
back to forum, HTML5 (and Raspi)! Was fun here, I learned a lot from
you, thanks!

===
Hermann


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Re: [ANN] Release 8.0.0 DP 15

[Peter TB Brett]

On 22/02/2016 18:37, William Prothero wrote:

Peter:



I got a notice that Monte’s externals come with Indy licenses now. Is
there a link where we can download them? BTW, congrats on DP15! The
widgets are going to be a game changer for LC as will the
incorporation of Monte’s externals as widgets.


Hi Bill,

As Kevin and Monte have both noted here, and as mentioned in the blog 
post, there is going to be some work to do to properly integrate the 
mergExt externals into the LiveCode licensing system.


That work is underway, and I expect that there will be a further 
announcement in the near future.


  Peter

--
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LiveCode Open Source Team

LiveCode 2016 Conference https://livecode.com/edinburgh-2016/

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Re: [ANN] Release 8.0.0 DP 15

[panagiotis merakos]

>>> LiveCode 8.0.0 DP 15 ... and 45 bug fixes!

Why only 45? I see 53 here (without the duplicates):

http://quality.livecode.com/buglist.cgi?list_id=51971&query_format=advanced&token=1456178232-f63548a008c88a1a2a1dc62212585e14&target_milestone=8.0.0-dp-15

Panos
--

On Mon, Feb 22, 2016 at 11:41 PM, Peter TB Brett 
wrote:

> On 22/02/2016 18:37, William Prothero wrote:
>
>> Peter:
>>
>
> I got a notice that Monte’s externals come with Indy licenses now. Is
>> there a link where we can download them? BTW, congrats on DP15! The
>> widgets are going to be a game changer for LC as will the
>> incorporation of Monte’s externals as widgets.
>>
>
> Hi Bill,
>
> As Kevin and Monte have both noted here, and as mentioned in the blog
> post, there is going to be some work to do to properly integrate the
> mergExt externals into the LiveCode licensing system.
>
> That work is underway, and I expect that there will be a further
> announcement in the near future.
>
>   Peter
>
> --
> Dr Peter Brett 
> LiveCode Open Source Team
>
> LiveCode 2016 Conference https://livecode.com/edinburgh-2016/
>
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Re: [ANN] Release 8.0.0 DP 15

[William Prothero]

Peter:
Thanks! No big rush.
Bill

> On Feb 22, 2016, at 1:41 PM, Peter TB Brett  wrote:
> 
> On 22/02/2016 18:37, William Prothero wrote:
>> Peter:
> 
>> I got a notice that Monte’s externals come with Indy licenses now. Is
>> there a link where we can download them? BTW, congrats on DP15! The
>> widgets are going to be a game changer for LC as will the
>> incorporation of Monte’s externals as widgets.
> 
> Hi Bill,
> 
> As Kevin and Monte have both noted here, and as mentioned in the blog post, 
> there is going to be some work to do to properly integrate the mergExt 
> externals into the LiveCode licensing system.
> 
> That work is underway, and I expect that there will be a further announcement 
> in the near future.
> 
>  Peter
> 
> -- 
> Dr Peter Brett 
> LiveCode Open Source Team
> 
> LiveCode 2016 Conference https://livecode.com/edinburgh-2016/
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Re: [ANN] Release 8.0.0 DP 15

[RM]

On 22.02.2016 22:38, Ali Lloyd wrote:

Do you have widgets ticked in the show controls submenu of the tools
palette settings?



 Where would I find the "submenu of the tools palette setting" ?

I have searched throughout and cannot locate that.

Richmond.

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Re: [ANN] Release 8.0.0 DP 15

[Ali Lloyd]

The tools palette settings menu pops up when you click the 'cog' icon at
the top right of the tools palette.

On Tue, Feb 23, 2016 at 10:59 AM RM  wrote:

>
>
> On 22.02.2016 22:38, Ali Lloyd wrote:
> > Do you have widgets ticked in the show controls submenu of the tools
> > palette settings?
> >
> >
>   Where would I find the "submenu of the tools palette setting" ?
>
> I have searched throughout and cannot locate that.
>
> Richmond.
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Re: [ANN] Release 8.0.0 DP 15

[RM]

On 23.02.2016 13:08, Ali Lloyd wrote:

The tools palette settings menu pops up when you click the 'cog' icon at
the top right of the tools palette.


Um . . . I wonder if that is as intuitive as your interface developers 
think it is?


All sections are set to visible, and if you take a look at the image I 
uploaded to
the BUG report you will see that there is a large, grey, blank space 
where the widgets should show up.


I notice that in Firefox and Thunderbird they use an odd, 3 horizontal 
lines sort of icon: neither

worse nor better than the revTools cog . . .

Possibly there's a chance for a debate about this right now . . .

Richmond.


On Tue, Feb 23, 2016 at 10:59 AM RM  wrote:



On 22.02.2016 22:38, Ali Lloyd wrote:

Do you have widgets ticked in the show controls submenu of the tools
palette settings?



   Where would I find the "submenu of the tools palette setting" ?

I have searched throughout and cannot locate that.

Richmond.

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Re: [ANN] Release 8.0.0 DP 15

[Ali Lloyd]

Ah, well I imagine you would have tried it had it been there - it appears
to be also missing from the tools palette in the image attached to your bug
report!



On Tue, Feb 23, 2016 at 11:20 AM RM  wrote:

>
>
> On 23.02.2016 13:08, Ali Lloyd wrote:
> > The tools palette settings menu pops up when you click the 'cog' icon at
> > the top right of the tools palette.
>
> Um . . . I wonder if that is as intuitive as your interface developers
> think it is?
>
> All sections are set to visible, and if you take a look at the image I
> uploaded to
> the BUG report you will see that there is a large, grey, blank space
> where the widgets should show up.
>
> I notice that in Firefox and Thunderbird they use an odd, 3 horizontal
> lines sort of icon: neither
> worse nor better than the revTools cog . . .
>
> Possibly there's a chance for a debate about this right now . . .
>
> Richmond.
> >
> > On Tue, Feb 23, 2016 at 10:59 AM RM  wrote:
> >
> >>
> >> On 22.02.2016 22:38, Ali Lloyd wrote:
> >>> Do you have widgets ticked in the show controls submenu of the tools
> >>> palette settings?
> >>>
> >>>
> >>Where would I find the "submenu of the tools palette setting" ?
> >>
> >> I have searched throughout and cannot locate that.
> >>
> >> Richmond.
> >>
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Re: [ANN] Release 8.0.0 DP 15

[J. Landman Gay]

On February 23, 2016 5:21:55 AM RM  wrote:

I notice that in Firefox and Thunderbird they use an odd, 3 horizontal
lines sort of icon: neither
worse nor better than the revTools cog . . .


That's a standard icon on Android at least, and it represents a list, 
usually in the form of a menu. In Android circles it's affectionately 
referred to as the "hamburger menu" - - though it's a pretty flat burger.


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Re: [ANN] Release 8.0.0 DP 15

[RM]

Well; "burger', "cog" or something else?

Personally a start might be to have the "cog" (if that's what we are 
going to have) with a lot more contrast against its background, or even 
"Heaven forfend" in a different colour.


Richmond.

On 23.02.2016 20:18, J. Landman Gay wrote:

On February 23, 2016 5:21:55 AM RM  wrote:

I notice that in Firefox and Thunderbird they use an odd, 3 horizontal
lines sort of icon: neither
worse nor better than the revTools cog . . .


That's a standard icon on Android at least, and it represents a list, 
usually in the form of a menu. In Android circles it's affectionately 
referred to as the "hamburger menu" - - though it's a pretty flat burger.


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Re: [ANN] Release 8.0.0 RC 1

[RM]

This looks exciting.

On 12.04.2016 20:07, Peter TB Brett wrote:

Dear list members,

We are pleased to announce the release of LiveCode 8.0.0 RC 1.



Xubuntu 15.10 64 bit.

1. Documentation is STILL a "dead duck": Bug 16848

2. Livecode UI elements not appearing in the Application browser: Bug 17370

3. Widgets and settings 'cog' no longer visible in revTools stack: Bug 17371

4. Tool-Tip: "set number of polygon sides" tools: Bug 17372

Dunno about "RC1"; seems a bit soon.

Richmond.

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Re: [ANN] Release 8.0.0 RC 1

[Roger Eller]

Sending bug reports 'again' for Windows and Android issues which still
persist.  I'm sure it's fine for iOS and Mac though.


On Tue, Apr 12, 2016 at 1:07 PM, Peter TB Brett 
wrote:

> Dear list members,
>
> We are pleased to announce the release of LiveCode 8.0.0 RC 1.
>
> Getting the Release
> ===
> You can get the release at https://downloads.livecode.com/livecode/ or
> via the automatic updater.
>
> Release Contents
> 
> LiveCode 8 has a host of exciting new features.
>
> Simplify design with widgets
> 
> The LiveCode engine now supports custom controls called "widgets", and
> LiveCode now includes several widgets that simplify creating mobile apps.
>
> Extend LiveCode with LiveCode Builder
> -
> Enhance LiveCode with your own new controls and libraries without any C or
> C++ knowledge by using the new LiveCode Builder programming language.
>
> Deploy to the browser with HTML5
> 
> LiveCode standalones now run in a web browser, using a LiveCode engine
> that runs as JavaScript.
>
> The full release notes are available from:
> http://downloads.livecode.com/livecode/8_0_0/LiveCodeNotes-8_0_0_rc_1.pdf
>
> LiveCode 8.0.0 RC 1 contains an additional 148 bug fixes since the
> LiveCode 8.0.0 DP 16 release.
>
> Known issues
> 
> * iOS deployment issue when deploying using a version of Xcode older than
> Xcode 7.3.  See bug 17368 for a workaround:
> http://quality.livecode.com/show_bug.cgi?id=17368
>
> * iOS codesigning issue on OS X 10.11.4.  See bug 17292 for a workaround:
> http://quality.livecode.com/show_bug.cgi?id=17292
>
> * HTML5 standalones do not currently work when they contain extensions
> with dependencies
>
> * 64-bit standalones for Mac OS X do not have support for audio recording
> or the revVideoGrabber external
>
> Feedback
> 
>
> Please report any bugs encountered on our Bugzilla at
> http://quality.livecode.com/
>
> We have a forum available for discussing LiveCode Builder at
> http://forums.livecode.com/viewforum.php?f=93
>
>
> Have fun!
>
> The LiveCode Team
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Re: [ANN] Release 8.0.0 RC 1

[Jim Lambert]

Here’s an issue I’m seeing with LC 8.0.0 RC 1 on OS X that I have not seen 
previously.

When I launch LC 8.0.0 RC 1 on OS X I get the 'You downloaded this application 
from the Internet…' security dialog.
Usually you just click OK and never see that dialog again. At least that was 
the case with earlier versions of LC.
However, I get it every time I launch LC 8.0.0. 

If anyone else is experiencing this, here’s how to fix it.
Select the LC 8.0.0 RC 1 app in Finder. 
Get Info (command-I).
Change the app’s security settings from ‘Read Only’ to 'Read & Write.'
The next time you launch LC 8 RC 1, you will again get the security dialog, but 
not on subsequent launches.

Jim Lambert
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Re: [ANN] Release 8.0.0 RC 1

[Mike Kerner]

I'm not experiencing that, at least on 10.10.5

On Wed, Apr 13, 2016 at 3:36 PM, Jim Lambert  wrote:

> Here’s an issue I’m seeing with LC 8.0.0 RC 1 on OS X that I have not seen
> previously.
>
> When I launch LC 8.0.0 RC 1 on OS X I get the 'You downloaded this
> application from the Internet…' security dialog.
> Usually you just click OK and never see that dialog again. At least that
> was the case with earlier versions of LC.
> However, I get it every time I launch LC 8.0.0.
>
> If anyone else is experiencing this, here’s how to fix it.
> Select the LC 8.0.0 RC 1 app in Finder.
> Get Info (command-I).
> Change the app’s security settings from ‘Read Only’ to 'Read & Write.'
> The next time you launch LC 8 RC 1, you will again get the security
> dialog, but not on subsequent launches.
>
> Jim Lambert
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Re: [ANN] Release 8.0.0 RC 1

[Peter TB Brett]

On 13/04/2016 20:36, Jim Lambert wrote:

Here’s an issue I’m seeing with LC 8.0.0 RC 1 on OS X that I have not seen 
previously.

When I launch LC 8.0.0 RC 1 on OS X I get the 'You downloaded this application 
from the Internet…' security dialog.
Usually you just click OK and never see that dialog again. At least that was 
the case with earlier versions of LC.
However, I get it every time I launch LC 8.0.0.

If anyone else is experiencing this, here’s how to fix it.
Select the LC 8.0.0 RC 1 app in Finder.
Get Info (command-I).
Change the app’s security settings from ‘Read Only’ to 'Read & Write.'
The next time you launch LC 8 RC 1, you will again get the security dialog, but 
not on subsequent launches.


We're tracking this with bug 17385 [1].

   Peter

[1] http://quality.livecode.com/show_bug.cgi?id=17385

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Re: [ANN] Release 8.0.0 , project browser

[Mark Schonewille]

Andrew,

Perhaps it is good to know that an official request for accessibility 
features was made almost 8 years ago:

http://quality.livecode.com/show_bug.cgi?id=7286
The last note from RunRev staff about this issue dates back to 2014.

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Op 05-May-16 om 00:22 schreef Andrew Meit:

Please, please anyone know how to hack the colors used in the project browser 
tree?
1. I can barely read the white on blue, needs to be dark grey/black bkgnd
2. all the light grey text needs to be darker or black
3. the eye is hideous, dark grey/black please
4. I can barely see the lock when disabled
5. icons are too small
6. white on blue for the numbers, need black on white please
7. A Thicker font, this thin font is too much for me to see the font.
8. the +/- controls are hard to see too, white on grey, too tiny

There needs a theme editor for the project browser,…soon, very soon.
Off to take some meds from a headache from 3hrs using the project browser.
No, this is not a joke, am legally blind.

Someone have an alternative project browser? I will trade some of my art for or 
to do something.

Andrew



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Re: [ANN] Release 8.0.0 , project browser

[Sannyasin Brahmanathaswami]

The old application browser may work for you

It has moved

Plugins

revApplicationOverview

For some of us.. The first thing we do on downloading any recent version of LC 
is to set this plug-in to open on start up.

BR





On 5/4/16, 12:22 PM, "use-livecode on behalf of Andrew Meit" 
 
wrote:

>Someone have an alternative project browser? I will trade some of my art for 
>or to do something.
>
>Andrew
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Re: [ANN] Release 8.0.0 RC 1 (Linux)

[G.W.Gaich]

These are my first experiences with LC 8 and Linux:

LiveCode 8.0 (rc1) Linux community 64 bit

Linux Mint 17.3 Cinnamon 64 bit


Try to open the Dictionary.

First click on the dictionary icon: Nothing happens

Second click: A window opens with 2 tabs (API and Guide) but the window 
is empty.



If I have a new stack opened (New stack/Default Size), then clicking the 
dictionary icon: Nothing happens
Second click: A window opens with 2 tabs (API and Guide) but the window 
is empty.


Then I try to close the new empty stack. A message box appears with 
title 'livecodecommunity.x86_64' and the message 'something'.
The message box has no 'OK' button. I have to close it with the 'x' 
system button.
When I try to close LiveCode the message box appears again (and so on). 
I have to kill the livecode process.


Hmm. Has anyone else the same experiences with Linux Mint 17.3 Cinnamon 
64 bit?



Best
Günter

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Re: [ANN] Release 8.0.0 RC 1 (Linux)

[panagiotis merakos]

Hi Günter,

We have a Linux Mint 17.3 Cinnamon 64 bit VM in the office, which was used
to test the Dictionary functionality before releasing LiveCode 8 RC-1. I
did not experience any of these problems.

I suggest you file a bug report (http://quality.livecode.com/) so as we
investigate this further.

Best regards,
Panos
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PS: Mark Wieder uses a Mint Cinnamon 64 bit, so Mark, if you watch this
thread, please add your input :)

On Wed, Apr 13, 2016 at 12:23 AM, G.W.Gaich  wrote:

> These are my first experiences with LC 8 and Linux:
>
> LiveCode 8.0 (rc1) Linux community 64 bit
>
> Linux Mint 17.3 Cinnamon 64 bit
>
>
> Try to open the Dictionary.
>
> First click on the dictionary icon: Nothing happens
>
> Second click: A window opens with 2 tabs (API and Guide) but the window is
> empty.
>
>
> If I have a new stack opened (New stack/Default Size), then clicking the
> dictionary icon: Nothing happens
> Second click: A window opens with 2 tabs (API and Guide) but the window is
> empty.
>
> Then I try to close the new empty stack. A message box appears with title
> 'livecodecommunity.x86_64' and the message 'something'.
> The message box has no 'OK' button. I have to close it with the 'x' system
> button.
> When I try to close LiveCode the message box appears again (and so on). I
> have to kill the livecode process.
>
> Hmm. Has anyone else the same experiences with Linux Mint 17.3 Cinnamon 64
> bit?
>
>
> Best
> Günter
>
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Re: [ANN] Release 8.0.0 RC 1 (Linux)

[G.W.Gaich]

Hi Panos,

thank you for your reply.
I will file a bug report tomorrow.

Just installed a fresh VM Linux Mint 17.3 (VirtualBox). Did only 
install  LC 8 (rc1) and have a similar behavior.
The dictionary window is an empty rectangle without tabs. Same message 
box when I try to exit LiveCode. Have to kill the process.

My first try was not in a VM.

Best
Günter

Am 12.04.2016 um 23:36 schrieb panagiotis merakos:

Hi Günter,

We have a Linux Mint 17.3 Cinnamon 64 bit VM in the office, which was used
to test the Dictionary functionality before releasing LiveCode 8 RC-1. I
did not experience any of these problems.

I suggest you file a bug report (http://quality.livecode.com/) so as we
investigate this further.

Best regards,
Panos
--

PS: Mark Wieder uses a Mint Cinnamon 64 bit, so Mark, if you watch this
thread, please add your input :)

On Wed, Apr 13, 2016 at 12:23 AM, G.W.Gaich  wrote:


These are my first experiences with LC 8 and Linux:

LiveCode 8.0 (rc1) Linux community 64 bit

Linux Mint 17.3 Cinnamon 64 bit


Try to open the Dictionary.

First click on the dictionary icon: Nothing happens

Second click: A window opens with 2 tabs (API and Guide) but the window is
empty.


If I have a new stack opened (New stack/Default Size), then clicking the
dictionary icon: Nothing happens
Second click: A window opens with 2 tabs (API and Guide) but the window is
empty.

Then I try to close the new empty stack. A message box appears with title
'livecodecommunity.x86_64' and the message 'something'.
The message box has no 'OK' button. I have to close it with the 'x' system
button.
When I try to close LiveCode the message box appears again (and so on). I
have to kill the livecode process.

Hmm. Has anyone else the same experiences with Linux Mint 17.3 Cinnamon 64
bit?


Best
Günter

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Re: [ANN] Release 8.0.0 RC 1 (Linux)

[G.W.Gaich]

Hi Panos,

you can download the VM at
https://cloud.gaich.de:4/owncloud/index.php/s/CVQBX4MclZCRUfZ
It's compressed with 7Zip, the user in Linux Mint is test and the 
password is testtest



Am 13.04.2016 um 00:31 schrieb G.W.Gaich:

Hi Panos,

thank you for your reply.
I will file a bug report tomorrow.

Just installed a fresh VM Linux Mint 17.3 (VirtualBox). Did only 
install  LC 8 (rc1) and have a similar behavior.
The dictionary window is an empty rectangle without tabs. Same message 
box when I try to exit LiveCode. Have to kill the process.

My first try was not in a VM.

Best
Günter

Am 12.04.2016 um 23:36 schrieb panagiotis merakos:

Hi Günter,

We have a Linux Mint 17.3 Cinnamon 64 bit VM in the office, which was 
used

to test the Dictionary functionality before releasing LiveCode 8 RC-1. I
did not experience any of these problems.

I suggest you file a bug report (http://quality.livecode.com/) so as we
investigate this further.

Best regards,
Panos
--

PS: Mark Wieder uses a Mint Cinnamon 64 bit, so Mark, if you watch this
thread, please add your input :)

On Wed, Apr 13, 2016 at 12:23 AM, G.W.Gaich  wrote:


These are my first experiences with LC 8 and Linux:

LiveCode 8.0 (rc1) Linux community 64 bit

Linux Mint 17.3 Cinnamon 64 bit


Try to open the Dictionary.

First click on the dictionary icon: Nothing happens

Second click: A window opens with 2 tabs (API and Guide) but the 
window is

empty.


If I have a new stack opened (New stack/Default Size), then clicking 
the

dictionary icon: Nothing happens
Second click: A window opens with 2 tabs (API and Guide) but the 
window is

empty.

Then I try to close the new empty stack. A message box appears with 
title

'livecodecommunity.x86_64' and the message 'something'.
The message box has no 'OK' button. I have to close it with the 'x' 
system

button.
When I try to close LiveCode the message box appears again (and so 
on). I

have to kill the livecode process.

Hmm. Has anyone else the same experiences with Linux Mint 17.3 
Cinnamon 64

bit?


Best
Günter

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Re: [ANN] Release 8.0.0 RC 1 (Linux)

[Mark Wieder]

On 04/12/2016 02:36 PM, panagiotis merakos wrote:


PS: Mark Wieder uses a Mint Cinnamon 64 bit, so Mark, if you watch this
thread, please add your input :)

On Wed, Apr 13, 2016 at 12:23 AM, G.W.Gaich  wrote:


These are my first experiences with LC 8 and Linux:

LiveCode 8.0 (rc1) Linux community 64 bit

Linux Mint 17.3 Cinnamon 64 bit


Try to open the Dictionary.

First click on the dictionary icon: Nothing happens

Second click: A window opens with 2 tabs (API and Guide) but the window is
empty.


If I have a new stack opened (New stack/Default Size), then clicking the
dictionary icon: Nothing happens
Second click: A window opens with 2 tabs (API and Guide) but the window is
empty.

Then I try to close the new empty stack. A message box appears with title
'livecodecommunity.x86_64' and the message 'something'.
The message box has no 'OK' button. I have to close it with the 'x' system
button.
When I try to close LiveCode the message box appears again (and so on). I
have to kill the livecode process.

Hmm. Has anyone else the same experiences with Linux Mint 17.3 Cinnamon 64
bit?


I see all the above dictionary symptoms. Note, though, that I only saw 
the problem with the duplicated API and Guide tabs once. And on second 
click of the Dictionary the contents do appear after a delay.


In addition, if you have Toolbar text enabled and Toolbar icons 
disabled, the "Dictionary" text becomes overwritten with  
after clicking it.


I cannot replicate the empty stack problems, though.

The good news: I no longer am seeing a CEF segfault after closing the 
dictionary and IDE. My guess is that we are no longer using the CEF 
browser for the dictionary.


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Re: [ANN] Release 8.0.0 RC 1 (Linux)

[RM]

This is identical to my experience with RC1 on Xubuntu 15.10 64 bit.

Richmond.

On 13.04.2016 00:23, G.W.Gaich wrote:

These are my first experiences with LC 8 and Linux:

LiveCode 8.0 (rc1) Linux community 64 bit

Linux Mint 17.3 Cinnamon 64 bit


Try to open the Dictionary.

First click on the dictionary icon: Nothing happens

Second click: A window opens with 2 tabs (API and Guide) but the 
window is empty.



If I have a new stack opened (New stack/Default Size), then clicking 
the dictionary icon: Nothing happens
Second click: A window opens with 2 tabs (API and Guide) but the 
window is empty.


Then I try to close the new empty stack. A message box appears with 
title 'livecodecommunity.x86_64' and the message 'something'.
The message box has no 'OK' button. I have to close it with the 'x' 
system button.
When I try to close LiveCode the message box appears again (and so 
on). I have to kill the livecode process.


Hmm. Has anyone else the same experiences with Linux Mint 17.3 
Cinnamon 64 bit?



Best
Günter

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Re: [ANN] Release 8.0.0 RC 1 (Linux)

[Paul Hibbert]

> On Apr 12, 2016, at 9:40 PM, Mark Wieder  wrote:
> 
> In addition, if you have Toolbar text enabled and Toolbar icons disabled, the 
> "Dictionary" text becomes overwritten with  after clicking it.

That’s the icons showing through, there’s a bug report for it already. 
http://quality.livecode.com/show_bug.cgi?id=17369

Seen on OS X too, it happens to all the toolbar text as far as I can see. :-(

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Re: [ANN] Release 8.0.0 RC 1 (Linux)

[Peter TB Brett]

On 13/04/2016 05:40, Mark Wieder wrote:


The good news: I no longer am seeing a CEF segfault after closing the
dictionary and IDE. My guess is that we are no longer using the CEF
browser for the dictionary.


We are, in fact, still using the CEF-based browser widget for the 
dictionary.


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