Re: [OT] Why is Brazil like Bulgaria?

2011-01-06 Thread Bob Sneidar
They also both contain an l, an i, an r and an a. 

Bob


On Jan 5, 2011, at 1:31 AM, Alejandro Tejada wrote:

 Hi all,
 
 Stephen Barncard wrote:
 You mean some developers are better than the other developers?
 lol
 
 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NZldlyeR8DU
 At least from my point of view, the lesson of the fable Animal Farm
 is that Power tends to corrupt, and absolute power corrupts absolutely
 or Unlimited power is apt to corrupt the minds of those who possess it
 
 Unlimited power in the hands of few is the main common characteristic
 between Bulgaria and Brasil.
 
 Other is... that both names starts with B. :-)


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Re: [OT] Why is Brazil like Bulgaria?

2011-01-05 Thread Alejandro Tejada


Hi all,

Stephen Barncard wrote:
 You mean some developers are better than the other developers?
 lol

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NZldlyeR8DU
At least from my point of view, the lesson of the fable Animal Farm
is that Power tends to corrupt, and absolute power corrupts absolutely
or Unlimited power is apt to corrupt the minds of those who possess it

Unlimited power in the hands of few is the main common characteristic
between Bulgaria and Brasil.

Other is... that both names starts with B. :-)

J. Landman Gay wrote:
 I think he means we're all pigs. :)

ROTFL :-D
Funny enough, where I live, only in December you could see
roasted pigs in every Food Market:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pig_roast
http://www.dr1.com/forums/best-dr/109899-pig-roast-dr.html

But precisely because that, I avoid them in this month.
In the country where I live, electric energy fails every day,
for many hours. Just imagine the effect of electric brownouts
on refrigerated products of all kinds. Just imagine...
If you ever visit this country, think twice before eating or
drinking any kind of refrigerated product. Really.

Al

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Re: [OT] Why is Brazil like Bulgaria?

2011-01-05 Thread Warren Samples
On Wed, 2011-01-05 at 11:07 -0200, Andre Garzia wrote:
 People outside imagine Brazil being
 some banana republic where carismatic leader can do any ruthless thing
 and
 get away with it but this is not the case, they can get away with
 robbing
 any amount of money, passing any kind of idiotic law, doing every kind
 of
 moronic display of ignorance, complete lack of common sense and really
 bad
 sense of fashion and so on 

Obviously they are thinking of Venezuela... just a small error of
geography ;)


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Re: [OT] Why is Brazil like Bulgaria?

2011-01-05 Thread Andre Garzia
On Wed, Jan 5, 2011 at 12:27 PM, Curry Kenworthy cu...@pair.com wrote:

 Andre wrote:


 Curry Kenworthy wrote:

  Unlimited power in the hands of few is the main common
  characteristic between Bulgaria and Brasil.

 Oh there is no unlimited power in here.
 People outside imagine Brazil ... ... ...

 Just wanted to clarify that I am NOT the author of that quote as it might
 appear; my message quoted the previous message.


Curry,

no no no, I was not talking about you, I was making a general remark. I've
seen a lot of news during the last days and I wrote that email but it is not
targeted at any one.



 Nice history chapter!


Thanks! D



 Best,

 Curry



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Re: [OT] Why is Brazil like Bulgaria?

2011-01-05 Thread Bob Sneidar
That is as good a history of Brazil as I have ever heard. A couple points: I 
don't think people so much ascribe to political philosophies, as the look 
instead for the one that seems to give them the most, or take away the least 
from them. That is why nations with fairly good economical systems and politics 
can be overthrown. You simply convince the poor masses (every country has them) 
that they are poor, not because they have not tried to better themselves and 
their lives, but because those rich guys over there took all their money! 

Now the claim may or may not be true. Sometimes those rich guys over there 
really DID take all their money! But sometimes not. It really makes no 
difference, because the goal is to get a lot of people angry at the people who 
actually wield the power, so that you have a ready made army of sorts, at which 
the people who have the power will need to defend themselves or run. The 
resulting people who now have the power after the coup may not be (and probably 
will not be) better that the ones they replaced, especially seeing that they 
were willing to deceive the masses into doing what they wanted in the first 
place. Well it worked great once, why abandon a perfectly good method on moral 
grounds?? 

So the solution is not any particular political system, at least in my opinion. 
The solution has always been, and must always be, some kind of quantum leap in 
the moral fiber of the people in general. For America it was the fact that so 
very many displaced European Christians showed up in the same place at the same 
time and decided they wanted a better world for themselves and their children. 
How well things worked out in the end will be a subject of endless debate among 
the international community, so let me just concede that point up front. 

But there have been good and bad Republics. There have been good and bad 
Socialist States. There have even been good and bad Totalitarian States!! The 
moral fiber of the people, and subsequently their leaders, is the key, and not 
the politics. That is my point. 

Bob

ps. List-Gods please don't banish me from list-post heaven. It was an OT post!! 
And I didn't mention anything about cheese!


On Jan 5, 2011, at 5:07 AM, Andre Garzia wrote:

 So in summary:
 
 Same guys in power: really big muddy place - United Kingdom - Empire -
 Republic
 New guys in power, as bad as the previous ones: Last 8 years


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Re: [OT] Why is Brazil like Bulgaria?

2011-01-04 Thread Alejandro Tejada

Hi Richmond,

Are you making plans to return to Scotland
with your family in this year?

Stephen, this is time of the year when
we remember George Orwell's book:
http://www.george-orwell.org/Animal_Farm/index.html

Al
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Re: [OT] Why is Brazil like Bulgaria?

2011-01-04 Thread stephen barncard
You mean some developers are better than the other developers?
lol

I read 1984 in 1960.

On 4 January 2011 20:05, Alejandro Tejada capellan2...@gmail.com wrote:


 Hi Richmond,

 Are you making plans to return to Scotland
 with your family in this year?

 Stephen, this is time of the year when
 we remember George Orwell's book:
 http://www.george-orwell.org/Animal_Farm/index.html

 Al
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Re: [OT] Why is Brazil like Bulgaria?

2011-01-04 Thread J. Landman Gay

On 1/4/11 10:51 PM, stephen barncard wrote:

You mean some developers are better than the other developers?
lol


I think he means we're all pigs. :)

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